1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Way, way, way, way, way. You're telling me Chuck Schumer 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: allegedly invented fake people. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: He did, and he uses them all the time as reference. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: They are named the Baileys. They're a middle class couple 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: from Massapequa, Long Island, and they have been invented by 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer as a centrist swing voter. 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Archetype English casey, what do you mean? 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean they invented them? 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So let me see if I can put this 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: in terms you might be able to understand. Sure, when 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: you were a young radio disc jockey, did your boss 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: ever say, Okay, your target demo is a twenty five 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: to fifty four year old male. Okay, So in your mind, 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: I want you to picture that man, give him a name, 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: and give him an age, and that's who you're talking 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: to on a daily basis. So in your mind you go, okay, sure, 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: my guy's name is Joe. 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: He's forty years old, and he drives a truck. Okay, 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: And every time. 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: You crack the mic, you're supposed to picture Joe. Yeah, 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: got in your mind. Sure, absolutely, this is what Chuck 22 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Schumer has done only with voters, and he's been using 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: them for years. He put out a book in two 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: thousand and seven called Positively American. He mentioned the Baileys, 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: this fake couple two hundred and sixty five times. 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: Well, so like, okay, what you're talking about is we 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: would do it in our heads. Except he has verbally 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: espoused or in the written word, that. 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: These di's you mentioned them in speeches, that he's. 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Doing good work for he's trying to help as a 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: senator or whatever. He's presented them to the public as 32 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: actual human beings. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: Correct. 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: And John Oliver, who on his late week tonight he 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: hosts a talk show, he was talking about these fictional 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: characters Joe and Eileen Bailey, But. 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: I actually want to talk less about Chuck Schumer himself 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: and more about two of his favorite people, Joe and 39 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: Eileen Bailey. There are a couple that throughout Schumer's career 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: he has talked about a lot. 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 5: They're a middle class couple in Massapie, which is a 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: suburb on Long Island. Joe and Eileen Bailey, this middle 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 5: class couple they brought into Reagan Republicanism in nineteen eighty. 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 5: Joe and Eileen are worried about losing their jobs or 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 5: their friends' jobs, so that Baileys really don't believe in 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 5: trickle down. They don't believe in a whole lot of 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 5: government spending, but they believe in tax breaks for kids 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 5: to go to college. He's an insurance adjuster and lives 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 5: in the New York suburbs. By New York standards, he 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: makes fifty thousand year. If he lived in the middle 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 5: of the country, make forty. Wife works in a medical office. 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 5: She makes about twenty. She might make fifteen elsewhere. And 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: you know, I have guided my political life through. 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: The Baileyes, the Baileys have guided Chuck Schumer's political life, 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: which is a little way of given they don't exist, seriously, 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 4: he invented them. Schumer first introduced the world to the 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: Bailies in his two thousand and seven book Positively American, 58 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: Winning Back the Middle Class Majority, One Family at a Time. 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: In it, he mentions the bailies and astonishing two hundred 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: and sixty five times in two hundred and sixty four pages. 61 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: But he've been talking about them for years before the 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 4: book was published. One of his former spokespeople said he's 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 4: always asking what would the Baileies think, And to be fair, 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 4: Schumer acknowledges that some may find this a little weird. 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 5: If you ask my staff, I've been talking about that 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 5: and talking to the Baileys for fifteen years. I have 67 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 5: conversations with them. One of my staffers once said, I 68 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 5: had imaginary friends to the press got me in some trouble. 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 5: But these people are real and I respect them and 70 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 5: I really love them and I care about them. 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, but they're literally not real. 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: Job they don't exist. 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: So this is what I'm confused about, because he almost 74 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: contradicts himself there, Like he appears to acknowledge they're not real, 75 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: but then he says they are real. Is he trying 76 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: to say, See, this is where the habitual lie. These 77 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: people invent such doomsday type scenarios that they can't even 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: find people that meet the scenario they've laid on. Why 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: you need government intervention, why you need the government to 80 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: do this, or that. The scenarios are so ridiculous. He 81 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: can't even find one person that meets the thing, so 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: he meets he makes these imaginary people. 83 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: Correct. 84 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: That's how out of touch he is that he can't 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: even use a real person as an example in his 86 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: mind or in real life. He's got to fabricate these things. 87 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: He goes on. 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: He detailed a fictional backstory of them. Joe sings the 89 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: anthem at Islanders games, Aileen runs clothing drives at church, 90 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: They eat Kung pow chicken, and watch mainstream TV. It 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: just goes on and on and on, and he's been 92 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: doing it for years. 93 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: So it's almost like he's trying to have his cake 94 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: and eat it too, where he'll sort of acknowledge they're 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: not real, so that if he gets called on it, 96 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: he'll go, well, these are just people that I made up. 97 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: But he's really trying to do enough where he wants 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: you to believe that they're real, and he knows most 99 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: media see this is why Biden got away with it 100 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: for years. Biden lied so much when he had his 101 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: mental faculties. He was a liar then too, because nobody 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: does this sound familiar somebody who lies habitually because they've 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: always gotten away with it and nobody will hold him 104 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: to account on it. And then once you hold them 105 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: to account on it, then you become. 106 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: The bad guy. 107 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: This is why these politicians do this, because they know, 108 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: first of all the people at the event or meeting 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: or whatever they're not gonna know enough for the most part, 110 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: are not gonna want to believe it to hold you account. 111 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: The local media usually I'm gonna know to hold you 112 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: account to it, so you just get away with lying. 113 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: They just lie over and over and over. And that's 114 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: what he's doing here where he'll if he gets truly 115 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: pressed on it, he no, no, no, if ming knowledge are 116 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: not real, They're just like people I made up. And 117 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: my staff thinks it's funny. And one time they said, 118 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: I have imagined everything. 119 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: But he cites them in speeches like this. 120 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: My point, because he is, he is trying to present 121 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: them as real people, these people who run our country. 122 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: And I am talking about at the federal level, I 123 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: am certainly talking about to the state level. I am 124 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: talking about at the local level. These people are habitual liars. 125 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: They lie about everything, and then when they get called 126 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: to account, they turn to gaslight mode, like Schumer's doing there. Well, 127 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: I've always said they were always. 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: As I talked to imaginary people, you are you do? 129 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: They make you, They make you out to be the 130 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: bad guy when you catch them and you try to 131 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: hold him accountable. 132 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: He recently said that the Bailey's probably voted for Trump, 133 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: and they actually probably voted for Trump in five of 134 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: their last six votes between them. 135 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: The specificity of the I mean that's the thing, right, Like, 136 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: if you had the like you said, the imaginary guy 137 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: going down the going down the road, you know, you 138 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: get at your head and then you just go on, right, 139 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: you don't invent a life for him. 140 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: Well, so he's eating kung pow chicken and going to 141 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: food drives at church. 142 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean, use real constituents. 143 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is clear policy positions that would be more beneficial. 144 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: But it's not even all that surprising. I mean, it 145 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. So like we're talking about it because it's ridiculous. 146 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: But if I told you, hey, Chuck Schumer invented imaginary 147 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: people to help him help him better manipulate the voting 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: public into doing what he wants, would you been like 149 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: no way. 150 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: No, I'd say, yeah, that sounds about right right. 151 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: And part of the problem with this is we have 152 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: so lowered the bar or the standard for acceptability that 153 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: that story you're just like yeah, probably, And I still 154 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: don't understand. This is what I still struggle so much with, Casey. 155 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: Why if someone screws up your order at the local 156 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: Taco Bell people will sprint to the towny chatterboard and say, 157 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: how I'll just pull a Chuck Schumer. Aaron, a sixteen 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: year old kid working the counter at the Taco Bell, 159 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: ruined my evening by putting a chalupa in when it 160 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a burrito. But yet your government 161 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: uses you, abuses you, lies to you, manipulate you, and 162 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: you can't even be bothered to go vote these bums out.