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Speaker 1: Why from the Hartbaer and the Crossroads of America it's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Number two, what you're suggesting is that people of one

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Speaker 2: race are blacks in Louisiana who will have to be

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Speaker 2: some six fifty one percent of the population before they'll

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Speaker 2: be able to elect another black candidate. Because what you're

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Speaker 2: saying is partisanship is non negotiable. You have to create

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Speaker 2: maps where you're going to have six districts out of

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Speaker 3: That means Flacks never.

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Speaker 2: Have a chance, no matter what their number is, until

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Speaker 4: So I don't think that's true for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 4: Genre So the first is, as I think the General

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Speaker 4: pointed out, even without Section two, there's no reason to

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Speaker 3: Crack every single manority minority district. There is a reason the.

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Speaker 2: Illustrative maps showed that a map drawn without looking at

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Speaker 2: race and partisanship together would have created two districts compact

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Speaker 2: other counties that were tied historically and otherwise, and politics,

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Speaker 2: you say not, race is what led the state not

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Speaker 3: So I'll say several things, John Or.

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Speaker 4: First, I don't agree with your characterization that the luster

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Speaker 2: No, you're talking about the last of states chosen, Matt.

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Speaker 2: I'm not The map five was better. The illustrious map

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Speaker 5: They're going to be fighting all day this oral argument

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Speaker 5: going on right now. That's happening live as I bring

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Speaker 3: They're at the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 5: It's a fascinating story, an incredible case. And you're like, Tony,

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Speaker 5: you need a hobby. This is the hobby Tony Katz.

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Speaker 5: Tony kats today good to be with the eight three

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Speaker 3: Eight three to three got Tony. This is a case out.

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Speaker 5: Of Louisiana, which is whether Louisiana's creation of a second

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Speaker 5: United States Constitution. Now, the very concept of we would

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Speaker 5: create a district based on race is insane. That's the

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Speaker 5: madness that I think that we're all kind of engaged

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Speaker 5: whole host of things. Of course, the conversation redistricting, which

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Speaker 5: And I think it's a legitimate conversation. I think there's

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Speaker 5: to get accomplished here? But if you read the fourteenth

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Speaker 5: the question is by doing so, See, one would think

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Speaker 3: District based racially based.

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Speaker 5: Is being supportive of, but what about detracting from? What

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Speaker 5: have you meant it as detracting from? But it's actually

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Speaker 3: And this is a court that has.

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Speaker 5: Already engaged on some of these subjects. This is the

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Speaker 5: court that did away with you can't utilize race on

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Speaker 5: preferences for college admissions. This is a court where, seemingly

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Speaker 5: John Roberts, of all the issues John Roberts has, and

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Speaker 5: oh there are a great number, this is something that

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Speaker 5: he has been itching to get to since his days

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Speaker 5: in the Reagan Justice Department. Quote it is a sordid business,

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Speaker 5: this divvying us up by race, a descending opinion in

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Speaker 3: Chief Justice, and part of our I think a larger.

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Speaker 5: Scale argument is something that I've always considered incredibly ugly.

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Speaker 5: At the Voting Rights Act, go to nineteen sixty five,

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Speaker 3: I believe in no poll tax whatsoever.

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Speaker 5: We should not be as a society in any way

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Speaker 5: that puts a level of litmus test other than are

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Speaker 5: wholeheartedly agree that any practice that would try to create

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Speaker 5: It's a must.

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Speaker 3: How dare you?

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Speaker 5: And as we have gone about saying life has changed,

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Speaker 5: things have changed, people have changed. Let's not be thinking

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Speaker 5: a valueless Alabama twenty twenty five is not Alabama of

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Speaker 5: nineteen sixty five. People on the left said, how dare you.

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Speaker 5: domestic tranquility. The constitution involves a moving forward. But you

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Speaker 5: say here is the grievance, whether the grievance is legitimate

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Speaker 5: Never getting past it is the illegitimate part. It's like

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Speaker 5: Gabrielle Zevin writes, and tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. How

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Speaker 5: can one get over their trauma when it's the most.

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Speaker 3: Interesting thing about them?

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Speaker 5: A line so strong that I can't There's not a

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Speaker 5: used the line before I heard this from Gabriel Zevin.

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Speaker 5: How do you heal thee when the wound is so profitable?

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Speaker 5: Not to forget in any way, not to forget. I

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Speaker 5: long as we're gonna have public schools, and it should

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Speaker 3: It should be taught in every religious school.

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Speaker 5: It is of great shame that I didn't know of

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Speaker 3: That's just not that is not gonna fly. That's crazy.

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Speaker 5: And I can say in the same breath without any

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Speaker 5: in pursuit of the more perfect union, which if we

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Speaker 5: take a look at things like the Voting Rights Act,

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Speaker 5: numerous other pieces of legislation we are heading towards because

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Speaker 5: we rectify wrongs. Is it wrong to state that a

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Speaker 5: This is the question, Justice cors it's now speaking. I

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Speaker 3: Not but four. The way the Court is described it

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 4: I think the way the Court has described it is

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Speaker 4: it's the factor that a factor that could not be

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Speaker 4: So this case is a very easy case to analyze

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Speaker 6: I'm not worried about I'm focusing on your test going forward,

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Speaker 3: So let me help you this way.

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Speaker 4: Then I think the question is when is predominance not

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Speaker 6: I mean, under our normal equal protection jurisprudence, we don't

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Speaker 3: So they're going to go through this and through this

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Speaker 5: I think it's a fascinating case, and I think it

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Speaker 5: it's going to tell a story. The most interesting. I

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Speaker 5: Better Ginsburg, former Supreme Court justice, is that she thought

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Speaker 5: Robi Wade went too far. It was an overreach right,

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Speaker 5: Wade was always an overreach of the court, was always

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Speaker 5: We live in a fundamentally false view of things when

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Speaker 5: we think that the Court is infallible, that its decisions

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Speaker 5: throughout all time. They were wrong and plusy versus Ferguson,

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Speaker 5: wrong in Obergafell. It's not that two men or two

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Speaker 5: women can't spend their lives together. It's that no right

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Speaker 5: to same sex marriage exists in the Constitution. To decide

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Speaker 5: oppose Obergefell based on the fact that the right does

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Speaker 5: not exist in the Constitution. You can go put it

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Speaker 5: there find by me, but you can't decide it exists because.

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Speaker 3: You want it to.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's as dreadful as dred Scott. Please

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Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. But you can't just invent a

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Speaker 5: based on race? And the argument is, well, white districts

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Speaker 5: already based on race. I would laugh at that out loud,

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Speaker 5: this concept does is state that everybody of a race

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Speaker 5: it's some of the most bigoted stuff out there. For sure.

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Speaker 5: We've got a lot to get to Let's get to it.

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Speaker 5: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 7: Please thank you very grateful Charlotte. Excuse me, Charlie always

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Speaker 7: admired your commitment to freedom, and that's something that both

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Speaker 3: So thank you.

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Speaker 7: Your support of our family and the work that Charlie

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Speaker 7: So thank you to our gracious First Lady in her

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Speaker 7: that's beautiful. To Vice President and the lovely USHA fans.

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Speaker 5: This was Charlie Kirk, his wife Erica Kirk, accepting on

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Speaker 3: The end. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 5: This is Tony Katz today. So HAMAS is slow rolling

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Speaker 5: the return of the remains of those hostages killed by them.

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony kat today, guys, good to be with you,

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Speaker 3: The release.

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Speaker 5: This has got the Israelis infuriated. This is going to

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Speaker 5: HAMAS is required to fulfill its commitments to coring a

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Speaker 5: We see them, we know them, we see how they

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Speaker 5: There is no debate, so we don't have to discuss

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Speaker 3: About the idea that Hamas has to.

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Speaker 9: That is going to happen to disarm, and because they

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Speaker 5: I don't have to explain that to you.

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Speaker 5: Military operations, operation pigeon crap top of the top of

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Speaker 3: I have this conversation right now.

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Speaker 5: The President just said we will disarm them. That is

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Speaker 3: It's a war, they should pay for the rebuilding.

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Speaker 5: Is exactly what happens when you allow leftists to think

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Speaker 5: If you and I are just sitting here having a cigar,

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Speaker 5: Is you gotta walk in and you gotta take the gun.

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Speaker 5: The problem is they might fire the gun. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the moss. The President brought it up. Don't tell me

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Speaker 5: I can't discuss it. Don't tell me I'm a warmonger.

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Speaker 5: He didn't say how when he was absolutely right. I'm

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Speaker 3: Tell me I'm wrong, Walk walk me down the road.

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Speaker 5: Walk me down the road where Hamas doesn't have a

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Speaker 3: They don't even have a flare gun, they don't have

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Speaker 3: a water gun.

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Speaker 5: They're not even allowed to refer to their biceps as guns.

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Speaker 5: Tell me how that happens if Iran is able to

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Speaker 5: give them the dollars or utilized dollars to rearm them.

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Speaker 3: I'll wait. I don't know, do I have any good

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Speaker 3: like waiting? Music?

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Speaker 5: I sometimes have good waiting music. Not today, I'm a

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Speaker 5: little bit out of Uh. Let me say, okay, oh

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Speaker 5: this this, this might work. Here, here's some good waiting music.

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Speaker 5: You tell me, like I don't have Jeopardy music for

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Speaker 5: some reason. You tell me how this happens without getting

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Speaker 5: rid of the Iranian regime.

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Speaker 3: I'll wait with Kano, be with.

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Speaker 8: You right now. We think any column that's what he again, pig, but.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty good thinking music.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's gonna screw my monetization issues on YouTube dot

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Speaker 5: every day.

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Speaker 3: You can't monetize this. They don't.

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Speaker 5: They don't.

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Speaker 3: Essentially, they don't take down anything.

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Speaker 5: But like some of the music we pick and everything else, like,

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Speaker 5: oh that's not monetizable.

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, sponsorships now available.

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Speaker 5: Screw the monetizing, let's bring the sponsorships people. I don't

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Speaker 5: see how that happens. I don't see how it happens.

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Speaker 5: And I am not so sure that Magaville is prepared

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Speaker 5: for this conversation. Or maybe I'm not giving them the

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Speaker 5: credit that they deserve because I don't. I'm not engaging

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Speaker 5: this to be disparaging. Maybe they are absolutely aware of it,

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Speaker 5: and this is the thing that they never wanted.

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Speaker 3: They knew it would get to this as well. But

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how you disarm Hamas without ending the

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Speaker 5: Iranian regime. And if anybody's got an idea, I'm all

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Speaker 5: ears right Aaron there commenting, Hamas expects everything to go

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Speaker 5: back to how it was before October seventh.

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Speaker 3: They don't expect anyone has.

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Speaker 5: An appetite to engage in more fighting after how Israel

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Speaker 5: was excoriated. No no, no, no, no, no no. You

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Speaker 5: could argue that Hamas expects everything to go back the

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Speaker 5: way it was before October seventh, but that was their

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Speaker 5: expectation when all this happened. They figured that the world

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Speaker 5: would bring Israel to heal, and Israel refused to do it.

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Speaker 5: And I'm telling you, even with all the fanfare and

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Speaker 5: the kanessset and all the love Trump got and all

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Speaker 5: the cheers and everything else, if Hamas does not return

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Speaker 5: these dead israelis, the IDF is going to go right

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Speaker 5: back in. They're not gonna care. They got the hostages

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Speaker 5: back who are alive. They know that this is all

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Speaker 5: long shot. They really they want everybody part. They want

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Speaker 5: every tooth. It matters in a way I cannot properly

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Speaker 5: express here, But you think they're gonna take abuse from

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Speaker 5: Moss no matter what Trump wants, no matter what piece

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Speaker 5: deal he's trying to get, no matter what nobel rides

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Speaker 5: he desires, these rallies won't do it.

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Speaker 3: Those days are over.

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Speaker 5: There are no more October sixth israelies. They are October

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Speaker 5: eighth Israelis. Moss is gonna go. But if you want

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Speaker 5: to disarm the way Trump is discussing, I don't know

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Speaker 5: how that does not go through the Iranian regime.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today, Justice Jackson.

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Speaker 10: I think that that information led to led the officers

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Speaker 10: on the scene because there are deliberations that are captured

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Speaker 10: on bodycam. Those deliberations by officers with quite a lot

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Speaker 10: of extensive experience with mister Case are powerful evidence that

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Speaker 10: mister Case was unlikely to shoot himself because they're talking

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Speaker 10: about him provoking a confrontation with the police. And I

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Speaker 10: would just just quote, for example, Police Chief Sather says

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Speaker 10: he ain't got the guts. This is probably the tenth

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Speaker 10: time I've dealt with him doing this, or Sergeant Pasha

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Speaker 10: who says he's been suicide for silent care this.

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Speaker 11: Particular case, let me just try to understand the standard

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Speaker 11: that you want us to apply.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Sure, you say that it should be probable cause I

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Speaker 11: thought we already had the Emergency Aid exception requiring quote

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Speaker 11: unquote an objectively reasonable belief that an emergency is occurring.

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Speaker 3: And is Brown said not to be a fear probability

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Speaker 3: or something?

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Speaker 5: He was asking the questions right there. Supreme Court has

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Speaker 5: now moved on to another case. Tony Kap, Yes, Tony

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Speaker 5: kats Today the arguments happen kind of quickly. The decisions

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Speaker 5: take months to put together. This is right now being

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Speaker 5: discussed in front of the Supreme Court as we speak.

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Speaker 5: This is a Fourth Amendment case called Case versus Montana.

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Speaker 5: That is the story. Police officers went to the home

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Speaker 5: of William Case. This is after Case his former girlfriend

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Speaker 5: told him. The case an army veteran, had threatened to

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Speaker 5: commit suicide, as you just heard, was being discussed. When

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Speaker 5: the girlfriend told Case that she planned to contact the police,

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Speaker 5: he threatened to harm any police officers who came to

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Speaker 5: his home. Three police officers went to Case's house. They

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Speaker 5: said they did not think about getting a warrant to

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Speaker 5: go in because it wasn't a criminal thing. Instead, they

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Speaker 5: were going to assist him. So now the question is

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Speaker 5: to the justices, how certain police must be that there

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Speaker 5: is an emergency before they could enter a home without

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Speaker 5: a warrant? Is, as Amy Howe writes over at Cotis Blog,

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Speaker 5: isn't enough as the Montana Supreme Court held that police

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Speaker 5: only have reasonable suspicion that there is an emergency, or

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Speaker 5: are police officers required to meet a higher bar and

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Speaker 5: have probable cause to believe that there is an emergency? Now,

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Speaker 5: without hearing any other parts of the argument, I argue

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Speaker 5: they have to have the highest bar because it is

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Speaker 5: undoubtedly true. And our officers are gonna yell at me,

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Speaker 5: and people are gonna tell me I'm anti police, and

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Speaker 5: I'm not anti police. I'm just pro rights, and my

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Speaker 5: rights come before the job. The police does or the

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Speaker 5: police do. Absolutely, police believe they can enter any home

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Speaker 5: do anything, decide something's an emergency. I'll give you the

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Speaker 5: greatest example. Police come to the door and as you

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Speaker 5: answer the door and you're like, I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: answer any more questions, you go to close the door

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Speaker 5: and a cop will put their foot in the door.

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Speaker 5: Have you see these videos? And then if you slam

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Speaker 5: the door on the cops foot, you attack the I

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Speaker 5: believe that officer should be fired on the spot and

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Speaker 5: lose their pension. Tell me I'm wrong, But it goes

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Speaker 5: to the idea of if they just say, well, I

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Speaker 5: thought it was an emergency, is that really enough? I argue, no,

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Speaker 5: incredibly interesting case. There could be details that sway me

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Speaker 5: and change my mind. I'm all about it. More to

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Speaker 5: get to find everything at tonycats dot com.

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Speaker 3: Don't leave. This is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartband and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today to watch.

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Speaker 3: The wife of Robert F.

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Speaker 5: Kinney, Cheryl Hines take on the ladies of the View

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Speaker 5: who are not what we call I believe in the Latin.

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Speaker 3: We would say, oh, what is the translation? Smart? Not smart?

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Speaker 5: It's really good. She handled herself. And for the record,

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Speaker 5: Cheryl Hines is a progressive. I disagree with her on

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Speaker 5: about nineteen million things. But Sonny Hosted and Whoopy Goldberg

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Speaker 5: actually think they're bringing an intellectual heft to the show.

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Speaker 5: It's adorable Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

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Speaker 5: with You find everything at Tony Katz dot com. This however,

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Speaker 5: before we get there is Harry Enton over at CNN,

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Speaker 5: and he's got numbers, and the numbers are well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: exactly what democrats.

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Speaker 12: Thought seventeen twenty eighteen, right, because that's sort of the baseline.

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Speaker 12: That was, of course, the first Trump term. That was

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Speaker 12: where Democrats are sort of keeping pace.

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Speaker 5: You go back to April.

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Speaker 12: Look at the generic congressional ballot. What you see. You

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Speaker 12: see plus three Democrats in twenty twenty five. In April,

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Speaker 12: you see plus three Democrats back in April of twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 12: Now jump over to this side of the screen. What happens, Well,

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Speaker 12: the Democrats are no longer keeping pace with the pace

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Speaker 12: that they were setting back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 12: You look back in twenty seventeen, you saw that the

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Speaker 12: Democrats had leaped up to an eight point advantage. I

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Speaker 12: remember covering this. I remember a lot of folks, including myself, saying,

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Speaker 12: you know what, Republicans look pretty decent right now in

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Speaker 12: terms of the fact that they had the House, they

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Speaker 12: had the Center, they had the presidency, but things were

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Speaker 12: likely going to flip, and I was looking for the

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Speaker 12: same science this year. The bottom line is it hasn't happened.

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Speaker 3: Capable.

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Speaker 12: When it hasn't happened, Democrats have stayed basically studied, they

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Speaker 12: have fallen off the pace. Democrats were way out ahead

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Speaker 12: back in twenty seventeen on the generic congressional ballot, and

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Speaker 12: now we're basically looking at Democrats ahead. But again they

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Speaker 12: are so far in back of the pace that they

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Speaker 12: set back there. And so I think what a lot

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Speaker 12: of folks are seeing, Folks like myself are saying, way,

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Speaker 12: wait a minute, given what we might be seeing and redistricting,

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Speaker 12: is this plus three going to be an up ka.

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Speaker 5: Now, as I've said before, I favor redistricting. I think

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Speaker 5: redistricting is the right move. I didn't say it wasn't ugly.

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Speaker 5: I am discussing this solely on the politics of it,

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Speaker 5: because I, like you, am a grown up and I

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Speaker 5: understand that what we're dealing with here.

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Speaker 3: Is the grown up world.

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Speaker 5: To understand the redistricting a little bit better, allow me

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Speaker 5: to introduce you to someone by the name of Nancy Pelosi.

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Speaker 5: Trust me on this one. Trust me on this one.

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Speaker 5: Nancy Pelosi is going to explain to you, as she

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Speaker 5: did to Jensaki just yesterday, why redistricting matters so very

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Speaker 5: very much.

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Speaker 3: Mid ten year plan here. But you also don't like

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Speaker 3: to fight with one arm behind your back. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have won so many times. Do you wish other states?

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Speaker 13: Do you want other Blue states to really think about

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Speaker 13: this at this point or think about a path forward,

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Speaker 13: even if it's following the same model as California with letting.

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Speaker 3: People vote to do it.

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Speaker 14: Well, people have to do what their path is. It's

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Speaker 14: really important to note, thank you for your acknowledging what

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Speaker 14: I have done. But this was a big plan, that

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Speaker 14: is to say, in order for us to move forward,

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Speaker 14: the California Democrats had to bless a plan that added

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Speaker 14: five seats, which meant numbers had to give up some

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Speaker 14: of their Democrats to do that. Zoe Laughan, our Sherif

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Speaker 14: Racock is Pte Aguilar is the chair of the Bigger

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Speaker 14: Call because they they led the way on this though

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Speaker 14: has just been remarkable. So our delegation had to vote

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Speaker 14: for this. The state legislature House and Senate and leadership

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Speaker 14: of speak arevas and pro tem leader of the Senate maguire.

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Speaker 14: They then supported what we sent them, and then, of

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Speaker 14: course Kevin Newsom carried the ball down the field is

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Speaker 14: carrying the ball down the field, and we're very proud

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Speaker 14: of that. But everybody, since we're all into it, people

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Speaker 14: have you know, you have to own the ground to

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Speaker 14: win an election, so everybody has a vested interest in.

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Speaker 3: California and doing this.

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Speaker 14: So it's we had a plan if other states have

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Speaker 14: a plan to do. But you know, we only need

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Speaker 14: three seats to win. How came the speaker understand that?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I understand that, former Speaker at Pelosi, I understand it,

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Speaker 5: and it's why I favor redistricting. Did you hear what

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Speaker 5: she said? You only need three seats to get at

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Speaker 5: King Jeffries, doesn't matter how you get there. Get there, well, Tony,

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Speaker 5: California is only redistricting because Texas did who wha, wha, wha, whoa.

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Speaker 5: That's what you keep saying, political left, but that isn't

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Speaker 5: what's happening. Texas engaged a political process. They engaged a

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Speaker 5: political process in the state of Texas, and it is

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Speaker 5: therefore up to Texas voters to decide whether or not

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Speaker 5: they accept it. Well, Tony's redistricting, you won't be able

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Speaker 5: to get these people out. The redistricting is for the

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Speaker 5: congressional level, a federal level, not on the state level.

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Speaker 3: You can vote out your state representative any.

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Speaker 5: Time you like, find a better candidate, find a different candidate,

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Speaker 5: convince people to vote in your direction. Vote the guy out,

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Speaker 5: vote the lady out. I'm not sexist, vote a mountain.

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Speaker 5: What Nancy Pelosi said is we developed a plan. If

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Speaker 5: they're going to do this in Texas, we are proudly

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Speaker 5: engaging in retribution, and we can so manipulate the situation

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Speaker 5: as you only need three more votes to make Hakeem

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Speaker 5: Jeffries the speaker. Once you understand what it is that

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Speaker 5: they're doing, what this is all about, how they're trying

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Speaker 5: to take back the House and make Hakeem Jeffries the speaker.

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Speaker 5: Once you understand this and you realize how horrible that is,

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Speaker 5: and that they see nothing wrong with an act of

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Speaker 5: retribution to get to their goal, and other states should

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Speaker 5: follow the model of California. The question is, for my

677
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Speaker 5: beloved Indiana and other states, how do you not.

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Speaker 3: This is the political fight.

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Speaker 5: People are angry with Texas because they redistrict in mid decade.

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Speaker 5: See if you redistrict after the second right after sends

681
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Speaker 5: us and it's fine. They don't ever talk about how

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Speaker 5: places were redistricted to create these nonsense districts that look

683
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Speaker 5: like too octopy humping, and they think.

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Speaker 3: That that's normal. And then they created these.

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Speaker 5: Groups, these commissions on redistricting to basically hold their power

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Speaker 5: structure in place. And now a Stata is saying we're

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Speaker 5: not doing this, and other states are saying we're not

688
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: doing this. This is wrong to begin with, and the

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Speaker 5: leftist said, you can't do that. You can't do that

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Speaker 5: to our pledges. Only we could do that to our pledges.

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Speaker 5: They're not shy about it. You can argue that you

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Speaker 5: don't like what Texas did, but you can't then argue

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Speaker 5: that California is right to do it. Once California got

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Speaker 5: into the game of retribution, that's when I a guy

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Speaker 5: who first asked a question, Okay, Texas, you're doing what

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Speaker 5: you're doing, and then someone brought up my state, Indiana.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know why Indiana would redistrict. There

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Speaker 5: are nine congressional districts here, Republicans control seven. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if you're a district anything, Well, once you see California,

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Speaker 5: you're like, of course your redistrict.

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Speaker 3: Now there's a downside.

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Speaker 5: You can lose. You can redistrict and still lose the seat.

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Speaker 5: Of course, this is politics, this is real stuff. Nothing

704
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Speaker 5: is guaranteed. But if you don't make the effort, I

705
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 5: think you're nuts, because Nancy Pelosi is gonna try and

706
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Speaker 5: make that effort in every state she can. Republicans need

707
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Speaker 5: to grow up. This is the world we live in,

708
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Speaker 5: not some world where you're above at all.

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Speaker 3: No, this is how we do it. Oh, we have

710
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Speaker 3: to be nicer. Would you please get a hold of yourselves.

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Speaker 5: Look at the history of the last fifty years, look

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Speaker 5: at the presidency of Donald Trump, look at the indictments

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Speaker 5: against him.

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Speaker 3: Then remember the fight that you're in.

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Speaker 5: It's at this moment the rose colored glasses need to

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Speaker 5: come off and reality needs to kick you in the

717
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Speaker 5: face so hard you lose a tooth.

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Speaker 3: This is the fight. Time to get to it.

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Speaker 12: Back to.

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Speaker 5: Harry Enton talking about where Democrats are in the polling

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Speaker 5: right now, far below where they were in the mid

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Speaker 5: terms of twenty seventeen, comparing that Trump one to Trump

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Speaker 5: two when Republicans have power where Democrats were.

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Speaker 3: Let it continue. That's what I was going to ask.

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Speaker 7: One change from that cycle is also this mid decade

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Speaker 7: redistricting effort that we've been covering so much.

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Speaker 3: Add that in and what do you guess?

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Speaker 12: Okay, so we add that and we take a look

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Speaker 12: at the national picture, but then we're of course taking

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Speaker 12: a look at the state legislators. Right, they are potentially

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Speaker 12: changing things. And there are two things that are going

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Speaker 12: on here. First off, mid decade redistricting gains. If both

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Speaker 12: sides max out at this point, there are more Republican

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Speaker 12: gains possible than Democratic age. Yes, the Democrats might try

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Speaker 12: to counter a Texas in a California, but you go

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Speaker 12: along in the different states and basically Democrats run out

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Speaker 12: of room where Republicans are able to gain and gain

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Speaker 12: and gain. If both sides max out, we're probably looking

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Speaker 12: at a GOP gain of plus seven House seats. That

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Speaker 12: doesn't even take into account the potential gutting of the

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Speaker 12: VRA that is right now going to be in front

742
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Speaker 12: of the Supreme Court. If you add that in, would

743
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Speaker 12: be looking yes, exactly right, the Voting Rights Act. If

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Speaker 12: you add that in, then you could be looking about

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Speaker 12: adding ten, twelve, fifteen, seventeen on top of this seven seats.

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Speaker 12: So I think a lot of folks like myself are

747
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Speaker 12: looking at this. We're seeing, Hey, wait a minute, those

748
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Speaker 12: national polls are Democrats are not gaining the way that

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Speaker 12: we expected.

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Speaker 3: So the question before us is if Harry Inton could

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Speaker 3: do the math.

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Speaker 5: And I think Harry Aton's very good at this, by

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Speaker 5: the way, and I applaud CNN for giving him such

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Speaker 5: a front ands under opportunities to engage. So honestly, why

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Speaker 5: in the world would any Democrat want California to do it?

756
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Speaker 5: Here's what happened. California jumped the gun. California decided it

757
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 5: was the same old, same old, and they could just

758
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 5: turn these Republicans into mush, make them cower in fear

759
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Speaker 5: and not do anything. And everyone on social media could

760
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 5: scream and yell and holler and covetch and do all

761
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Speaker 5: the things. Oh, you just want to waste people's money.

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Speaker 5: You're not really a physical conservative. Oh you just can't

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Speaker 5: win on ideas.

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Speaker 3: You're such a coward. I mean, just follow my social

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Speaker 3: media feed.

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Speaker 5: A bunch of people who have never gotten out of

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Speaker 5: their basements are screaming at me.

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Speaker 3: They think that can work, because well, it always has.

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Speaker 5: The numbers don't line up for them if Republicans recognize

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Speaker 5: what's happening and act accordingly. These are all political processes,

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Speaker 5: and these states can redistrict two hours after they readistion,

772
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 5: two weeks, two years after, of course they can. They

773
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 5: could do something, then move it, and then move it again,

774
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Speaker 5: and move it again. It's a political process and the

775
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 5: people could decide whether they like it or whether they

776
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 5: don't the way it should be. Absolutely, absolutely, we should

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Speaker 5: be redistricting, not only in my state, but in every

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Speaker 5: state where you recognize what it is that the political

779
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Speaker 5: left is doing. Oh sure, Texas started this, you got it.

780
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Speaker 5: You could have left Texas well enough alone, and you didn't,

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Speaker 5: And now here we are. I'm Tony Katz. This is

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz today. Good money.

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Speaker 15: Thank you to my Democratic colleagues for your presence, for

784
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Speaker 15: your unity, for your strength, and.

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Speaker 5: For your leadership.

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Speaker 15: I'm deeply appreciative that we've been joined today by three extraordinary,

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Speaker 15: hardworking American taxpayers, Heather, Jackie and johnah whose lives are

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Speaker 15: being upended by the government shutdown and the Republican healthcare crisis.

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Speaker 5: You can gather on the steps of the Capitol all

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Speaker 5: you want, Representative Jeffries.

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Speaker 3: This is not going your way.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't matter what you say in the House. This is

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Speaker 5: for the Senate to figure out. Your commentaries are meaningless.

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Speaker 5: What you have are a series of stunts. I noticed

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Speaker 5: you have al Green behind you there, Leader Jeffries, you

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Speaker 5: want to scream at yelling Donald Trump during a addressed

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Speaker 5: to a joint Session. It wasn't actually the state of

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Speaker 5: the Union. It was an addressed to Joint Session of Congress.

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Speaker 5: That's great, but it's all just fluff. What next Corey

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Speaker 5: Booker does. A twenty five hour filibuster didn't mean anything.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. It's like having a twenty four hour flu.

802
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 5: At the end of it, you're like, well that was interesting,

803
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Speaker 5: and then nothing changed. Your life goes back to normal.

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 5: But every everybody's trying to engage the American people, try

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Speaker 5: and get people to their side, and hakeem Jeffries, knowing

807
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Speaker 5: that he's playing from behind the Republican health care crisis,

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Speaker 5: the Republican shutdown. Republicans call it the Schumer shutdown, which

809
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: has a much better ring to it, and of course

810
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Speaker 5: the recognition that the Obamacare subsidies sunset at the end

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Speaker 5: of twenty twenty five because Democrats voted for that in

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Speaker 5: the Inflation Reduction Act.

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Speaker 3: They voted for it, and.

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Speaker 5: Now they're angry that it's happening, and they are here

815
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Speaker 5: to tell their stories.

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Speaker 15: Donald Trump and Republicans and Congress have shut down the

817
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Speaker 15: government fifteen days ago, and they haven't done a damn

818
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Speaker 15: thing since.

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Speaker 16: All.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize we're gonna be using such strong language.

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Speaker 5: Representative Jeffries, Well, if they haven't done a damn thing since.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess they better listen to you now.

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Speaker 5: You know what, I'm gonna stop sharing it because you

824
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Speaker 5: know he's gonna start cursing. I mean, I got to

825
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Speaker 5: assume that's what's next. But the idea of just spectacle

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Speaker 5: is what they do. It's like when the Women's Caucus

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Speaker 5: decided they were gonna storm Speaker Johnson's office. You have

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Speaker 5: members screaming at Capitol police. Remember when Democrats not Capitol

829
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Speaker 5: police were awesome? Yeah, yeah, those were good times.

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Speaker 3: They're demanding that a member be sworn in.

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Speaker 5: You have an Arizona this this this member Grihalva. Who

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Speaker 5: is the Is she the daughter or the granddaughter.

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Speaker 3: Of Raoul Grihalva.

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Speaker 12: I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I don't remember if she is the

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Speaker 5: daughter or the granddaughter. Her name is Adelita Grihalva. It's

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Speaker 5: her father's she's the daughter, and she won the seat.

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Speaker 5: She is a vote regarding the Epstein files, and that

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Speaker 5: she's going to vote to open up the Epstein files. Well,

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Speaker 5: for that alone, I'd swear in. And the argument is

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Speaker 5: Mike Johnson won't swear her in because of this. He's

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Speaker 5: arguing that he won't swear her in because the government

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Speaker 5: shut down.

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Speaker 3: Get the government open again. I'll swear in. This is

845
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Speaker 3: this is a political play.

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Speaker 5: And certainly one could argue that there's a real issue

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Speaker 5: with releasing Epstein files because is everything redacted?

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Speaker 3: Is there information that shouldn't get out that might get out?

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Speaker 5: And then, of course the worst part, there are people

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Speaker 5: on the left and on the right in any level

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Speaker 5: of connection to Epstein who had nothing to do with

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Speaker 5: the island and had nothing to do with the young children,

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Speaker 5: including President Trump. In my view, we would have already

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Speaker 5: had that leaked. But of course there were connections. This

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Speaker 5: guy's connected to everybody. Money is connected and they're going

856
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Speaker 5: to use Oh look this, here's a person name. Let's

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00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 5: go destroy them. And it's not what we should be

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Speaker 5: doing here. Who was involved with abusing young children and

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Speaker 5: let's throw them in jail, regardless of their name, regardless

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Speaker 5: of the political party, regardless of their money. We cannot

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Speaker 5: be a society that allows debuts of children. So this

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00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 5: is a bit of politics here, but storming his office

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Speaker 5: is not a way to do anything except make yourself

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Speaker 5: look foolish.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 12: Your husband.

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Speaker 13: When he announced basically that he believed he found some

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Speaker 13: causal links between autism and Thailand al it created a

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Speaker 13: lot of panic and women who were being told by

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Speaker 13: their obgians who look at them that thailandl if necessary

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Speaker 13: to treat pain during pregnancy, is safe. What would you say,

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Speaker 13: And I know you're not a medical professional, but to

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Speaker 13: women who now feel anxious and nervous because they're doctors

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Speaker 13: telling them one thing, but the top public health professionals

875
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Speaker 13: telling them something very different.

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Speaker 3: This is the view.

877
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Speaker 5: Trust me, Trust me, I wouldn't share it without a reason.

878
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

879
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 5: And that's Alissa Farah asking the question who She said,

880
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 5: if Trump frees the hostages, she'll wear the Maga hat,

881
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 5: and then twenty three hostages, and now she won't wear

882
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 5: the Maga hat. Opportunity squandered because you could not handle

883
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Speaker 5: Alissa that Joy Behar would yell at you, Tony Katz,

884
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 5: Tony Katz today.

885
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Speaker 3: Good to be with you.

886
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 5: I don't think Alissa Phara would would remember me, but

887
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Speaker 5: she was doing comms for within that world for then

888
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Speaker 5: Vice President Mike Pence, and so I dealt with There

889
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Speaker 5: are a couple times in interviews I'd done with the

890
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 5: Vice president lovely enough, absolutely, and then got the gig

891
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 5: on the view as obstensibly a conservative and has not

892
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Speaker 5: shown it yet, has not shown an ounce of it.

893
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Speaker 17: At all.

894
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: But she's asking this question of Cheryl Hines. Cheryl Hines

895
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Speaker 5: is the wife of Robert F.

896
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Speaker 3: Kennedy junior. Cheryl Hines an actress. Curb your enthusiasm.

897
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Speaker 5: Cheryl Hines and I probably agree on zero politically, but

898
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 5: here she is answering these questions, and you got it.

899
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 5: Starts with this Alyssa farre question, and then it gets

900
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Speaker 5: into the pseudo intellectualism of Wooby Goldberg and Sunny hoston

901
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 5: We're gonna have to break this down.

902
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 12: No breakdown, never want to say now from me.

903
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 3: Now it's time for a breakdown.

904
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 5: God, I can listen to Tom Petty all Dad.

905
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Speaker 3: All day long. Let's go back to the question and

906
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: then the answer from Cheryl Hines.

907
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Speaker 13: Your husband when he announced basically that he believed he

908
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 13: found some causal links between autism and Thailand all it

909
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 13: created a lot of panic and women who were being

910
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Speaker 13: told by their obg ins who look at them that

911
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Speaker 13: Thailand will, if necessary to treat pain during pregnancy, is safe.

912
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: What would you say?

913
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 13: And I know you're not a medical professional, but to

914
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 13: women who now feel anxious and nervous because their doctors

915
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 13: telling them one thing, but the top public health professionals

916
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 13: telling them something very different.

917
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 5: You're not a medical professional. You'll give medical advice. It's

918
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 5: a weird question. It's a weird setup to a question.

919
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: Listen. I think you know that.

920
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 5: I think it was an attempted gotcha in the nicest way.

921
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 3: But Cheryl Hines gives a message a response from the

922
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Speaker 3: heart profession.

923
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 17: Well, they said consult your doctor before taking it. That

924
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 17: was the That's what they were saying, and that holds.

925
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 17: So I agree with an I've been pregnant. I understand

926
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Speaker 17: it's stressful being pregnant. I found because you're so concerned

927
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Speaker 17: with everything. I didn't drink caffeine when I was pregnant.

928
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 17: So to say, hey, you know, consult your doctor before

929
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Speaker 17: you take this, I agree with that, and.

930
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 5: I think every rational person agrees with that. Consult your doctor.

931
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 5: When I just us things here, I say, don't listen

932
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Speaker 5: to me, consult your doctor. We talked about COVID.

933
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Speaker 3: Don't listen to me.

934
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 5: I'm a guy in the radio. For the love of God.

935
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Speaker 5: You want cigar advice, listen to me. You want political commentary,

936
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 5: listen to me. You want to laugh, listen to me.

937
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 5: You want medical advice? Good, Why would you listen? That's

938
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Speaker 5: crazy talk. Go talk to your doctor.

939
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Speaker 3: So Cheryl Hines on the View on ABC, enter Whoopy Goldberg,

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Speaker 3: I thank you.

941
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Speaker 17: That's okay for moms here, Sure, yeah, thank you, go

942
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Speaker 17: ahead out all.

943
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Speaker 3: Right, I am this This is not your fight, really

944
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: to be fighting. This is your husband's. Thank you for

945
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: by This is really about your husband.

946
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Speaker 5: But while you're here, allow me to punch you in

947
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Speaker 5: the face and blame you for everything your husband said.

948
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the setup. You don't even need to

949
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Speaker 3: hear the rest, but you will. But I just want

950
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Speaker 3: to say, I just I do want to say. You know,

951
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Speaker 3: he's not a doctor and he's not a professional.

952
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Speaker 18: Yes, and oftentimes when he's taught, Oftentimes when he's speaking,

953
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Speaker 18: he is speaking not with the best information that How

954
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 18: does she know that that we can get because you know, yeah,

955
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Speaker 18: we could do a lot better.

956
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: With health step Hold on a second, how do you

957
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 3: know that Robert F.

958
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Speaker 5: Kennedy Jr. Is not speaking with the best information. I

959
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 5: didn't want him to be confirmed. I didn't want to

960
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Speaker 5: progressive that close to the President of the United States.

961
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Speaker 5: I was against his confirmation. But how in the world

962
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 5: do you know this would be? Who has taught who

963
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 5: over an MSNBC told you this that he doesn't have

964
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 5: the best information? Did Javier? But Sarah have the best information?

965
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Speaker 5: We had an undersecretary who was a man who claimed

966
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Speaker 5: to be a woman. He didn't even know that he

967
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Speaker 5: was actually a man and not a woman, and yet

968
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Speaker 5: he had the best information. What a gross thing for

969
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 5: her to say the.

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Speaker 18: Best information that we can get because you know, yeah,

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01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 18: we could do a lot better with health stuff, and

972
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Speaker 18: there's a lot of stuff he can do, and some

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Speaker 18: of the things he's suggested take it out of the

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Speaker 18: hands of my doctor and me and my OBGYA and me,

975
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Speaker 18: And I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I wonder does it give you pause?

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01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 5: And are you able to say, you know that might.

978
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Speaker 18: Not actually be so because I've got my experience and

979
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 18: I've done lived with this and I'm still here.

980
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: So are you able to have those conversations with him? First?

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Speaker 5: Her question is your husband's a fool, doesn't have the

982
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 5: right information. Are you able to sway him? Or does

983
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 5: he even listen to women?

984
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: That's what she asked.

985
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 5: This is a serious It is a serious question from

986
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Speaker 5: Woopi Goldberg. Bravo de Cheryl Hines for the response.

987
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 17: I am able to have those conversations. And just to

988
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 17: be clear, of secretarias of HHS have not been doctors.

989
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 5: Boom, that's beautifully done. It's a political position. Enter Sonny

990
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 5: Houston to come in with the oh, I know.

991
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 17: Better of secretarias of HHS have not been doctors.

992
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: Been a great.

993
01:02:53,680 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 17: One of Obama's secretarias of HHS was an economist, but.

994
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Speaker 11: Most the majority of them that haven't had medical backgrounds.

995
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Speaker 3: Have await science from.

996
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Speaker 5: He's not a doctor. Ninety percent were in doctors. Well

997
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 5: they're scientists. Well no, they're not all scientists. Yeah, but

998
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 5: most were scientists. This is the argument that the View

999
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 5: put forward to Cheryl Hines raw vote to her in

1000
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 5: handling that with grace. Anyone who gets their medical advice

1001
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 5: or medical opinions from Sonny Hostin, Whoopy Goldberg or the

1002
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 5: View is playing Russian Roulette with their health.

1003
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: You have to be out of your mind to trust them.

1004
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 3: They just proved it again.

1005
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, I don't think one should stay silent when even

1006
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 5: people on the political right are acting the part of

1007
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 5: damn fools. This Politico story, the fallout and why it

1008
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 5: all matters and how it can to the left, that's

1009
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 5: coming up next. This is Tony Kats Today. So Politico

1010
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Speaker 5: had the story leaked messages exposed young Republicans racist chat.

1011
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Speaker 3: It's really gross.

1012
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Speaker 5: First on the idea of it's stupidity, Tony Katz Tony

1013
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 5: Kats Today, Anything that you text will eventually come out.

1014
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 5: If I taught my kids anything that I hope sticks.

1015
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 5: Never take a nude picture of yourself and send it

1016
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 5: to someone. It will show up on a website. It

1017
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 5: will be used against you. Haven't we seen enough of this? Yes,

1018
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 5: the people who do that are wrong. It doesn't matter.

1019
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna get used against you.

1020
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Speaker 5: So there, the Politico people were able to get text messages,

1021
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 5: thousands of private messages, private messages referring to people as

1022
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 5: the N word, talking about rapist epic. It goes on

1023
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 5: and on and on and on. Some of these people

1024
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 5: were connected to a last dephonic it's not good for

1025
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 5: her and that she's running for governor of New York.

1026
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 5: These things are all going to have a level of ramifications.

1027
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 5: It's ugly stuff, Hitler references. I love Hitler references. It's

1028
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 5: just stupid, and yes, some of it's ugly and some

1029
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 5: of it's obscene. One thousand percent. I do not have

1030
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 5: to protect these people. I do not have to rally

1031
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 5: around them. Some of them, many of them, if not

1032
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 5: all of them, are going to be fired from positions.

1033
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 5: And the young Republicans or the Republicans of this group

1034
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 5: or that group, absolutely they're gonna get fired. Now, this

1035
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,479
Speaker 5: is different than what would happen on the political left,

1036
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 5: where you don't always get fired, and very often you

1037
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 5: don't get fired.

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: They don't even pay attention to it. So there's an argument.

1039
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 5: I saw Matt Walsh making this argument that we're supposed

1040
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 5: to rally around these people, and yet Republicans attack their own.

1041
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 5: These ain't my own, but we're supposed to be rallied

1042
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 5: around United on is policy. A guy who's referring to

1043
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 5: people as this, that and the other engaged in gross talk,

1044
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 5: I gotta protect them. I don't think I have to

1045
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 5: do that. Matt, You're wrong. What we should do is

1046
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 5: say we believe in a policy like, for example, men

1047
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 5: are not women and women are not men, and we

1048
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 5: should never relent. But if someone out there is messaging

1049
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 5: to people bigotry, we don't have to rally around that guy.

1050
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 3: The hell's wrong with you?

1051
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 5: What the hell's wrong with anybody would think that that's possible.

1052
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 5: We don't have to rally around them. Because this is

1053
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 5: exactly what the Democrats have done regarding Jay Jones, Democratic

1054
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 5: candidate for Attorney General in Virginia, who texted that he

1055
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 5: wanted to kill the then Speaker of the House and

1056
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 5: that guy's kids, and the wright said that's disgusting. He

1057
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 5: should get out of the race, and Democrats said we

1058
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 5: support him. Abigail Spamberger, who is running for governor against

1059
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Speaker 5: Winsome Earl Sears. Her name, first name, Winsome, last name,

1060
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 5: Earl Sears. She won't condemn him, she won't stop endorsing him.

1061
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 5: How in the world am I able to share that

1062
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 5: that's ob scene and then take a look at the

1063
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 5: guy who called himself a Republican and is calling people

1064
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 5: the N word and talking about Jews and gas chambers

1065
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: and say, yeah, I'm not paying attention to that. Of

1066
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 5: course I'm paying attention to that.

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Speaker 3: You don't want it.

1068
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 5: I would if I was running for office and that

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01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 5: was one of my people. The video would be of

1070
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 5: me physically throwing the guy out.

1071
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: Of a window. It would be a first floor window.

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01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 5: But still, who would ever protect it, who would ever

1073
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Speaker 5: support it?

1074
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Speaker 3: And why would anybody actually write it?

1075
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Speaker 5: I gotta tell you that, as gross as some of

1076
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Speaker 5: these statements are, I'm so insulted by the stupidity of

1077
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Speaker 5: writing it.

1078
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Speaker 3: It's like when people do sexting. I'm like, what what,

1079
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 3: what what are you doing?

1080
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 5: It's gonna get used against you.

1081
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Speaker 3: Good lord.

1082
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 5: I would fire them for the rank stupidity. Now, how

1083
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 5: did Politico get access to these things. Twenty nine hundred

1084
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 5: pages of chats somebody leaked it. Did you actually think

1085
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 5: you could trust everybody? Never put anything in a text

1086
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Speaker 5: you wouldn't say. Never put anything in a text you

1087
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Speaker 5: wouldn't want to be read in a courtroom. Well, tony,

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Speaker 5: you believe in censorship. No, I believe in being normal.

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Speaker 5: Never say anything on a telephone that you wouldn't want

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Speaker 5: utilized against you in a rico case. I'm sorry. Maybe

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Speaker 5: I grew up differently than other people. That is very,

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Speaker 5: very possible. The idea that I shouldn't look at these

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Speaker 5: people and say they are dopey, they are gross.

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Speaker 3: Of course you should. Well you're not, you know, rallying

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Speaker 3: around Republicans.

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Speaker 5: Democrats always rally around their people, Yes, and that's what

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01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 5: makes them so disgusting. Elano Mohr says about Jews, it's

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01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 5: all about the Benjamins where shed Tale wants a wipe

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Speaker 5: Israel off the map, and they still defend those two.

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Speaker 5: Congressman Andre Carson of Indianapolis, for first Lewis fireconn and

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Speaker 5: as his friend and will not denounce his big and

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Speaker 5: the Democrats still rally around him. That's the difference. They

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Speaker 5: not like us, and if we are not capable of saying, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you gotta go, you guys, spend some time and time out,

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 5: then learn from it and come back a better person.

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Speaker 3: Because I believe in redemption. We're not willing to say

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Speaker 3: that we're not serious.

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Speaker 5: We already know the Democratic Party isn't serious on this subject,

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Speaker 5: and I think that's gonna be helpful. Going to November twenty,

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Speaker 5: twenty sixth, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 5: The shutdown is working its way into weak number three.

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01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 5: And what the Democrats are still convinced of is that

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 5: they can blame Republicans and they can hold all the

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 5: stunts in the world and all this complaining in the world.

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Speaker 5: What Republicans need to do is hold strong. Tony Katz.

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz today. To that end, there's Speaker Johnson surrounded

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Speaker 5: by a whole bunch of House Republicans saying, yeah, Democrats

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Speaker 5: are still responsible here every step of.

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Speaker 19: The way, Democrats in Congress again have voted nine times.

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Speaker 19: Here's the tally, every single time the Republicans have voted

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Speaker 19: to pay the troops, and by the way all other

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Speaker 19: federal employees, federal workers, and the Democrats have voted over

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Speaker 19: and over to stop it. And the depressing irony of

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01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 19: this on this particular subjects, among all others, is that

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Speaker 19: the most pro shut down Democrats actually represent the most

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 19: active duty service members back home, whom they have taken

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Speaker 19: hostage in this insidious political game. And I want to

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Speaker 19: give you a couple of examples, and this is the

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Speaker 19: actual statistic. Of the ten states with the largest military populations,

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 19: six are represented each by two Democrats in the Senate

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Speaker 19: who are withholding the paychecks.

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Speaker 20: Here's the list.

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Speaker 19: In California, it's home to one hundred fews fifty seven

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01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 19: thousand active duty personnel, the most in the country. Those

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Speaker 19: stationed at Fort Hunter Liggett and Camp Pendleton and Edwards

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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 19: Air Force Base and Vandenburgh Space Force Space and others.

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Speaker 19: We'll all miss a paycheck at the end of the

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Speaker 19: month if Democrat obstruction continues.

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Speaker 20: Now this is worthy of note.

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Speaker 19: Both California Senators Adam Schiff and Alex Badia are gleeful

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01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 19: about this government shutdown. They agree with Chuck Schumer when

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01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 19: he said very candidly just a few days ago, every

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01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 19: day of the shutdown gets better for us.

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Speaker 5: Who's now understand he said it? This is what Chuck

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01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 5: Schumer said. It's how you know this is so blatantly political.

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Speaker 5: They wanted this day, they wanted the military not getting paid. Well,

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 5: now you've got Trump and the Pentagon working to find

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Speaker 5: a way to get them paid, which will bring us

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Speaker 5: to October twentieth, when congressional staffers don't get paid.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel bad about that at all. You know,

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Speaker 3: I mentioned this on my morning show.

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Speaker 5: There's like fifty plus people who worked for iHeart Radio

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 5: Group lost their jobs last week on air, promotions, production,

1157
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 5: executive lost their jobs. You know how many people cried

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 5: for them outside of their families. No one, but somehow

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 5: congressional staffers don't get paid. It's the end of the world.

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Speaker 5: Stop it, stop it. I am not going to shed tears.

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Speaker 5: I think it stinks. I wish that Democrats would get

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 5: this done, but they don't want to. They don't want to.

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 5: This is about them saying it's our way or no way.

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01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 5: And when they say we'll sit down anywhere with anyone

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Speaker 5: at any time, they don't mean.

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Speaker 3: They're going to make a move.

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Speaker 5: They mean you make a move So this is where

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01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 5: we're at, total intransigence. This is the scene, kids, and

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Speaker 5: if you argue to me, who's right and who's wrong.

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Speaker 5: The House passed continuing resolution, and we already have some

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Speaker 5: Democrats who have come over and voted in the Senate

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Speaker 5: on the continuing resolution. So now there's a bunch of

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Speaker 5: senators who would much rather have a political issue than

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Speaker 5: take care of the people. But Chuck Schumer said this

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01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 5: is working out well for them, And as the speaker continued.

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Speaker 20: The us he's talking about Democrats.

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Speaker 19: He thinks this is assisting their party and giving him

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Speaker 19: political cover so he doesn't attract a Marxist challenger in

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Speaker 19: his next Senate reelect.

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Speaker 3: That's what this is about.

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Speaker 19: So he thinks the government shut down is allowing him

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Speaker 19: to show a fight against President Trump and Republicans, and

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Speaker 19: he is happy about that, and so are Adam Schiff

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Speaker 19: and Alex Padilla.

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Speaker 20: While service members are going.

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Speaker 19: Without paychecks, Virginia, Virginia is home to one hundred and

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Speaker 19: nineteen thousand active duty personnel. It is the second most

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Speaker 19: in the country. Those stationed at Naval Station Norfolk, Quantico

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Speaker 19: and Fort A. P. Hill and others will miss paychecks.

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Speaker 19: At the end of this month. If this is not resolved,

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Speaker 19: both Virginia Senators Tim Kaine and Mark Warner are playing

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Speaker 19: political games with the paychecks of one hundred and nineteen

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Speaker 19: thousand service members.

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Speaker 20: Georgia.

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Speaker 19: Georgia's home to sixty five thousand active duty personnel. It's

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Speaker 19: the sixth most in the country. Those stationed at Fort Benning,

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Speaker 19: Fort Stewart, Moody Air Force Base and others will miss paychecks.

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Speaker 19: And just last week, this is this is so aggravating

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Speaker 19: to us, it's so frustrating to us, it's so wrong.

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Speaker 19: We saw service members waiting hours in lines wrapped around

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Speaker 19: the block at Georgia food pantries. And meanwhile you've got

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01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 19: both Georgia Senators John Ossoff and Rafael Warnock have now

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Speaker 19: voted eight times against paying those heroes. In Washington, the

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01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 19: state of Washington is home to fifty seven thousand active

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Speaker 19: duty personnel. It is the seventh most in the country,

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Speaker 19: and those stationed at Fairchild Air Force Base, in Naval Base, Kitsip,

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01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 19: Joint Base, Lewis McCord and others will miss paychecks. Both

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Speaker 19: Washington Senators Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell have repeatedly voted

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Speaker 19: against pay for serviceman members in the everreen state.

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Speaker 3: Now, of course, this is smart politics, and the Democrats

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Speaker 3: whould do this as well.

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Speaker 5: Here are the senators, here's the amount of people affected.

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Speaker 5: That's where you should be calling. Pressure them to vote

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01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 5: for this smart politics. That's the way it is. You

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 5: can argue that it's all ugly.

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01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: I won't disagree with you that it's all ugly, but

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01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 3: we should at least be aware of what it is.

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Speaker 5: We're looking at what it is that's happening, and why

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Speaker 5: it is so important that the Republicans say, vote for

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Speaker 5: the thing. It's a clean continuing resolution, vote for the thing.

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Speaker 5: Remember the argument against. The argument against is that Republicans

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Speaker 5: are gutting healthcare. They've created a healthcare crisis. What does

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 5: Hakim Jeffrey say the Republican healthcare crisis?

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Speaker 3: His vocal pattern is so grating.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, I mean, I guess you could think about anybody, right,

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01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 5: some people's the way they engage doesn't work for you.

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Speaker 5: You could think about me. You'd be wrong, but you

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01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 5: can think about me too. It's just so grating, and

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Speaker 5: it's so dismissive, and it's purposeful in this way. The

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Speaker 5: subsidies fro Obamacare sunset in the end of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 5: as per the Inflation Reduction Act put forth by Joe Biden,

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Speaker 5: voted on by Democrats, where they said the subsidies sunset

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Speaker 5: at the end of twenty twenty five. Now they're trying

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Speaker 5: to extend the subsidies, and they're claiming that Republicans are

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Speaker 5: gutting healthcare.

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Speaker 3: That's a lie. It's politics one O one, but it's

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01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 3: still a lie. What do you think happens. It's a manipulation,

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Speaker 3: it's trash. Trash.

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Speaker 5: Now, I don't want the subsidies extended. But what I

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01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 5: am convinced, and we said this from the beginning. You

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 5: know how right we were, how on top of it

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01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 5: we were before anybody else. Trump is absolutely going to

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01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 5: extend the subsidies. There's not even a question in my mind.

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01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 5: But they don't want to give Trump that win. They

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01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 5: don't want the subjects stolen from them. They've got nothing

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01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 5: they can connect the American people too. They have no

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01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 5: way of connecting with the American people. They need this,

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01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 5: so they're fighting for the American people for their healthcare.

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01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 5: That's been their argument. That's been their guiding light. That's

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01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 5: been their mantra. It has not worked out so great

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01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 5: because until today, really no one's been paying attention. You

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01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 5: notice how the media has been ratcheting this up over

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01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 5: the last couple of days because they knew the day

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01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 5: was coming of people not getting paid and they were

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Speaker 5: gonna be like, my gosh, look what Republicans are doing.

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Speaker 5: These people unseerious people at MSNBC and CNN, unserious people.

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01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 5: So they're playing this political game to claim that Republicans

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01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 5: are somehow doing something to Medicare, that's are to Obamacare subsidies,

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01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 5: which of course isn't the case. The Democrats don't want

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Speaker 5: I want Trump's stealing this issue from them, so they're

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Speaker 5: making a federal case out of it now, even though

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Speaker 5: they voted to have this sunset the subsidies sunset at

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Speaker 5: the end of twenty twenty five in the Inflation Reduction Act.

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Speaker 5: That's the politics at play, Speaker Johnson, as he's been

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01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 5: naming senators, Democratic senators and the number of constituents affected

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Speaker 5: by the shutdown that he is arguing the left has.

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Speaker 19: Caused Hawaii, Hawaii's home to forty three thousand active duty personnel.

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01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 20: It is the eighth most in the country.

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01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 19: Those stationed at Joint Base Pearl Harbor, Hickham, the Schofield

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Speaker 19: Barracks and others who miss paychecks. And both Hawaii Senators

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Speaker 19: Mazy Herono and Brian Schatz have voted against payne soldiers

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Speaker 19: station in Hawaii and by the way, many of them

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01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 19: are thousands of miles away from their families. Colorado is

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 19: home to thirty five thousand active duty personnel, the tenth

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Speaker 19: most in the country, and those stationed at Fort Carson,

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01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 19: Buckley's Space Force Base, Peterson's Space Force Base and ups

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01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 19: will miss paychecks.

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Speaker 3: And you guessed it.

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Speaker 19: Both Democrats senators are from Colorado. Hickenlooper John Hickenlooper and

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Speaker 19: Michael Bennett have voted against paying those troops in their state.

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Speaker 20: And I just want to mention New York it gets

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Speaker 20: honorable mentioned it.

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Speaker 19: Is in in the top ten, but the Empire State

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01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,440
Speaker 19: is home to seventeen thousand active duty personnel, the seventeenth

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01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 19: most in the country. Those stationed at Fort Drum and

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01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 19: Fort Hamilton and others will miss paychecks, And sadly, both

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01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 19: New York Senators First and Jillibrand and the architect of

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01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 19: the shutdown himself. Chuck Schumer can barely hide their delight

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01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 19: that the government is closed and troops are not being paid.

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01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 19: I will just say this, there's something that should be

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01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 19: remembered by everyone. Democrats say that even missed paychecks for

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01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 19: US troops won't be enough to end this shutdown. The Democrats,

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01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 19: we just demonstrated, represent thousands and thousands of the most

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01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 19: heroic men and women on the earth, refuse to put

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01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 19: their unserious partisan demands to the side and pay the troops.

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Speaker 19: And here are the indisputable facts of this shutdown. Republicans

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01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 19: want to pay the troops, and we have shown that

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01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 19: with our actions and our votes now nine times, and

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Speaker 19: the Democrats want to use them as hostages to extort

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Speaker 19: one and a half trullion dollars in new, unserious partisan

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Speaker 19: spending that we just won't go along with. We won't

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Speaker 19: sell out the long term security and future of the

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01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 19: United States so that Chuck Schumer can prevent a primary

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Speaker 19: challenge from his left wing.

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Speaker 20: We will not be a part of that nonsense.

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Speaker 19: And until Schumer and the left wing of his party

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 19: are satisfied enough that the pain the shutdown has caused

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01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 19: has reached a limit that they're satisfied with, and the

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Speaker 19: Republicans are going to stand here every single day.

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Speaker 20: We're going to.

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Speaker 19: Continue to deliver the simple facts directly to the American people.

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Speaker 5: Now, I don't know what gets the Democrats to crack,

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01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 5: because I was convinced that we're going to crack like

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Speaker 5: day four, day five. They don't want this, This isn't working.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's get this over with, Let's not extend.

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Speaker 3: The pain. I wouldn't have thought that they would have

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Speaker 3: gone this far because they've got to be a bunch

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Speaker 3: of them that are are not pleased.

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Speaker 5: They don't need this in their lives. I've got Lisa Murkowski,

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Speaker 5: so called Republican from Alaska, saying that there's a lack

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Speaker 5: of trust between the two parties, saying, quote, if you're

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Speaker 5: a Democrat, you're looking at it and you say, why

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Speaker 5: why am I going to be helpful of mister voted

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01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 5: Office Management budget is just going to do a backdoor

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01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 5: move and re send what we've been working on. There's

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01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 5: a lack of trust. Does it make it harder to

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01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 5: come to terms on hard things like a government shut down?

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01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 5: Absolutely well, if you're going to be the Republican blaming

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Speaker 5: Russ's vote for everything off the o officsite management and

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Speaker 5: budget because, for example, recision packages.

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Speaker 3: You're doing this wrong. You're gonna be upset about pocket recisions,

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Speaker 3: which is.

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Speaker 5: To say, the Senate is not in session, the Congress

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01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 5: is not in session, so you can engage. Okay, we're

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01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 5: not gonna spend this money. Recision is so Congress appropriates dollars,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna spend X number dollars on this problem. It's

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Speaker 5: fifty let's say we're gonna spend fifty dollars I'm using

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Speaker 5: let's use congressional numbers.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna spend fifty billion dollars on this problem.

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Speaker 5: They spend it like it's nothing, and then it's like, okay,

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Speaker 5: it only took forty billion. Well we appropriated fifty billion,

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Speaker 5: so you have to spend fifty billion. But it only

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01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 5: took forty billion. So now we're going to put forward

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01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 5: this recision bill to rescind this ten billion dollars worth

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01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 5: of spending. The American people say ten billion dollars. There

1346
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 5: are Democrats opposed to this. Now what they're opposed to

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01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 5: is money being lost on their pet projects. But if

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01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 5: we don't need the project, then we don't need the spending.

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Speaker 5: And there are Democrats who can't figure out that we

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01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 5: shouldn't spend on things that don't matter. Instead of saying,

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01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 5: you're right, we don't need it there, we should be

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01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 5: spending more money here and then pressuring on those subjects.

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01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 5: And then there are Republicans who don't understand that your

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01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 5: job is not to spend our money on things that

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01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 5: aren't necessary to spend our money on. Stop doing it,

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01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 5: Stop being someone who spends our money on nonsense, and

1357
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 5: stop saying, well, the Democrats have a point. They don't

1358
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 5: They want to spend our money on nonsense, and you're

1359
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 5: the one standing in the gap yelling stop. And so

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01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 5: the recision bills absolutely matter. And from Rakowski not to

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01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 5: not understand that is exactly why people voted for Donald Trump.

1362
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 5: They're sick and tired of the wishy, washy, the mealy

1363
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 5: mouth nature of this. My god, you ain't tough at all,

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01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 5: no tough in you, ain't no dog in the fight,

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01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 5: ain't no fighting the dog. You've got nothing.

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Speaker 3: We're tired of the weakness.

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Speaker 5: Democrats are fully aware, because they ain't weak, they will

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01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 5: stick to it. It's Republicans they expect to back down,

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01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 5: to equivocate, to shake in their boots, to wet themselves

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Speaker 5: and hide in the corner and say, please, don't hurt me.

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Speaker 5: And that's changed, and that's good. And on this fight,

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Speaker 5: I got to imagine Democrats are saying, three weeks, we're

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Speaker 5: into the third week. We don't need this because right

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01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 5: now it doesn't look like they can win it. As

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01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 5: long as the Murkowskis of the world are kept at bay,

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01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 5: and as long as the reminder of they voted for

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01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 5: this stuff. Now they want to change who they are

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01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 5: and what they said and what they believe. And we're

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01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 5: going to have a clean resolution and then we can

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01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 5: discuss it. They got to vote for this. They have

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01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 5: to vote for this. They're shutting down the government. They

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01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 5: have to vote to open the government. We're not going

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01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 5: to give them a filibuster or a situation where we

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01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 5: just get rid of the filibuster and get rid of

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Speaker 5: the sixty vote threshold.

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Speaker 3: They have to come to the table. They have to

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01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 3: be the ones who say, Okay, we give they.

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01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 5: Started this fight, we're ending this fight, and we the Republicans,

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Speaker 5: are not going to give an inch.

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Speaker 3: And you say, and people's lives get impacted, and I

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01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 3: say to you, it's government. It's our government.

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Speaker 5: Lives are always impacted when they spend the extra ten

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Speaker 5: billion dollars. My life, your life, and the life of

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01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 5: our kids and grandkids we don't even have yet is impacted.

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Speaker 5: Why do we always forget that part. I don't think

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Speaker 5: we should forget that part at all. I think that

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01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 5: should be a front and center conversation. Democrats can't think

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01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 5: the shutdown's.

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Speaker 3: Working for them.

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Speaker 5: They can't think there's an upper hand here. But they've

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01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 5: always believed that it'll work out their way because it

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01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 5: always has, so I wouldn't they. So they have to

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01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 5: be proven wrong. And maybe Speaker Johnson is right, this

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 5: is going to last a long long time. I hope

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01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 5: he's wrong. On Tony Katz in This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 16: But I think the finding in the district court's mind

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Speaker 16: in that case was that the likelihood of a Section

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Speaker 16: two violation meant that a majority black district was required

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Speaker 16: a second one.

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Speaker 3: And I think that was the bottom line.

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Speaker 12: And when our.

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Speaker 16: Legislature saw that, we understood the marching order, and that's

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Speaker 16: why you see SBA as it exists today.

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Speaker 3: Just briefly, what were the findings that led to that conclusion?

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Speaker 16: Well, your running through the preconditions and the totality of

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01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 16: the circumstances. I mean, I think the totality of the

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Speaker 16: circumstances did most of the work for the Middle District

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Speaker 16: in Robinson Senate Factor one the official history of past discrimination,

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01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 16: Justice Thomas, we can never outrun the bad era of

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Speaker 16: poll taxes, of grandfather clauses, of literacy tests. I think

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01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 16: we're always going to lose across the board on that

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Speaker 16: kind of analysis. And that's what the Middle District in

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Speaker 16: Robinson focused on is how bad was Louisiana in the

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01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 16: nineteen thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, And you know, add all

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Speaker 16: that together and at the end you have a vote

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01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 16: dilution finding that I don't think is clearly articulable in

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Speaker 16: the way that SFA requires a finding of discrimination to

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Speaker 16: be specified.

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Speaker 5: I do love it when smart people are talking about

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01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,879
Speaker 5: smart things. And anytime a Justice Clarence Thomas is speaking

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01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 5: in a case in front of the Supreme Court, it's fascinating.

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01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 5: He doesn't ask many questions. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 5: good to be with you, Justice Thomas didn't really ask

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01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 5: many questions at all until after the death of Justice

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01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 5: Antonin Scalia, and he got a little more active in

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01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 5: the asking questions business. But this is a case about

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01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 5: Louisiana and whether a second majority black congressional district violates

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01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 5: the fourteenth or fifteenth Amendment. This is fascinating stuff and

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01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 5: the real offictions are huge. I'll let you know how

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01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 5: this plays out by sharing with you the Associated Press headline,

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01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 5: Supreme Court takes up Republican attack on Voting Rights Act

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01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 5: in case over black representation. Tells you everything you need

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01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 5: to know. Tells you everything you need to know. Race

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01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 5: based three districting is fundamentally contrary to or our constitution.

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01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 5: That according to the Louisiana Attorney General writing in the

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Speaker 5: Supreme Court filing.

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01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 3: And this is the conversation.

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01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 5: This is the same court that ended affirmative action in

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01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 5: college admissions, and it could be something that they are

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01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 5: very much inclined to say, Yeah, we don't do that here,

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01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 5: We're not interested in this here. And this might be

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01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 5: a place where Chief Justice John Roberts, who depending on

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01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 5: the source, this has been something he's been kind of

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01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 5: after since his days in the Justice Department in the

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01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:57,879
Speaker 5: Reagan days, so we might see something very very interesting.

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01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 5: In a two thousand and six opinion, he wrote, it

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01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 5: is a sorted business that's divvying us up by race.

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01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 5: I concur Chief Justice, I concur very curious to see

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01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 5: how this case goes. Many others getting discussed, decisions not

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01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 5: out until November.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz Today. Get your taxes filed. People.

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01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 5: I know, I know it's October. But some people they

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01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 5: did extensions. And those people may be people you like

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01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 5: on the radio. I'm not saying they are, they aren't.

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01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 5: I'm simply saying, make sure you get it done. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz Today.

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01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 3: Good to be with you.

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01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 5: Find everything going on over at Tony Katz dot com.

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01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 5: It's so easy to do and free. You can be

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01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 5: a supporter.

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Speaker 3: Always greatly appreciate that every step of the way.

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Speaker 5: Never mind the shutdown, as we've already been discussing it,

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01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 5: there are some other stories out there. We have been

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01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 5: certainly dominated by the sh shutdown story, by the hostage

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01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 5: situation in Israel. They were returning to the hostages, and

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01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 5: of course Hamas is Hamas, these are terrorists. Did anybody

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01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 5: think they were going to live up to their word.

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01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 5: Did anybody think they were trustworthy? You would have to

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01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 5: be a college professor or Rashida Talib to think this,

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01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 5: and they do. They think Israel is the issue, and

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01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 5: ask yourself, what side do you want to be on

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01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,719
Speaker 5: the side of rational thought or the side of Rasheita

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01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 5: Salib And the rest is history. But there are some

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01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 5: other stories. In One of these stories is something we

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01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 5: brought up yesterday where the data is showing that the

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01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 5: trans hysteria.

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Speaker 3: In the United States is on the downslide.

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Speaker 5: And thank goodness, this abuse of children hopefully disappearing.

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01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 3: From our lives. Boys can be girls and girls can

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01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 3: be boys.

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01:31:54,760 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 5: Abuse beginning to end, NonStop, no question, unquestionable abuse, gender

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01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 5: firming care, code for abuse, cover for abuse.

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01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 3: Doctors who believe.

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01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 5: In gender firming care take away their medical license. There's

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01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 5: no place for them in civil society none. And what

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01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 5: we're seeing from the data is that college age students,

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Speaker 5: for example, trending downward from that height of twenty twenty

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01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 5: three playing in this gender dysphoria game because they never

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01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,959
Speaker 5: actually had gender dysphoria. They were sad, they were depressed,

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01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 5: they were looking for something that would relieve the situation,

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01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 5: give them a reprieve, give them an out, make them

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01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 5: feel better. And they were like, Okay, well this is it.

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01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 5: This is what they're telling me, this must be it.

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01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 5: And this was never, ever, ever it. Mutilating yourself was

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01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 5: not going to make you feel better. And I'm glad

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01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 5: to see this reduction as per the data. But this

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Speaker 5: brings us to the story of a federal judge and

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01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 5: a case about transathletes. The story, as reported by Fox News,

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01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 5: an Idaho transathlete tried to have a Scotus case dropped

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01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 5: a federal judge, a judge striking down the attempt. So

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Speaker 5: the judge's name is David ny Trump appointee in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 5: This judge rejects the case or the push from a

1513
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 5: guy by the name of Lindsay Hecox. He's trying to

1514
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 5: dismiss the case even though the Supreme Court agreed to

1515
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 5: hear the case. It was filed by Hecos Hgcox in

1516
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 5: twenty twenty when he wanted to join the women's cross

1517
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 5: country team at Boise State.

1518
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 3: The state's law to prevent trans athletes was there and

1519
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 3: he wanted to have that blocked.

1520
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 5: He was joined by an anonymous biological female student by

1521
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 5: the name of Jane Doe. Right, Anonymous Jane Doe concerned

1522
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 5: about the potential being subjected to the sex dispute verification process. Right,

1523
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 5: how do you prove a boys a boy? How do

1524
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 5: you prove a girl as a girl, man as a man,

1525
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 5: and woman as a woman. The Ninth Circuit Court of

1526
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 5: Appeals upheld an injunction blocking the state launch twenty twenty

1527
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 5: three before the Supreme Court agreed to hear the case.

1528
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 5: Heck cocks, I think that's how he pronounced it, asked

1529
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 5: Codis to drop the challenge, claiming the athlete has therefore

1530
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 5: decided to permanently withdraw and refrain from playing any women's

1531
01:34:55,439 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 5: sports at BSU Boise State or in Idaho. The defense team,

1532
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 5: which is led by the Attorney General L. L. Labrador

1533
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 5: and the Alliance Defending Freedom, pushed back at the attempt

1534
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 5: to end the battle before it reached the Supreme Court

1535
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 5: because the dismissal violated the agreed upon stay. Now, if

1536
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 5: I understand this properly, what they're saying is this guy

1537
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 5: who claims to be a girl, who wants boys to

1538
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 5: be able to compete in girls sports men in women's

1539
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 5: sports is trying to have a case removed from the

1540
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 5: Supreme Court docket because it might not go his way

1541
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 5: and might be very detrimental for the quote unquote trans movement.

1542
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 5: Supreme Court has to rule whether or not the case

1543
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 5: is moot because this guy has now said I won't

1544
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 5: participate in any women's sports. What they're saying is is

1545
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 5: that it's ruling now from this district judge is a

1546
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 5: good sign that the case will go forward, because if

1547
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 5: it goes forward, it's a Supreme Court stating that, yes, indeed,

1548
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 5: you can ban this one from that and that one

1549
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 5: from this West Virginia talking about the Save Women's Sports Act.

1550
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 5: In twenty twenty one, they're appealing a lower court ruling

1551
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 5: that allowed a transgender athlete to compete on the school's

1552
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 5: cross country and track teams. This guy qualified for the

1553
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 5: West Virginia Girls High School state track meet, finishing third

1554
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 5: in the discus throw at eighth in.

1555
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 3: The shot put.

1556
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 5: The Fourth Circuit ruled in favor of this guy who've

1557
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 5: been taking puberty blocker medication, and in an April twenty

1558
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 5: twenty four ruling based on the Equal Protection Clause, I

1559
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 5: think that's a massive misreading. But take the top line

1560
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 5: from this story, right. This is happening in other places,

1561
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 5: in other ways. They think they're going to lose. This

1562
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 5: guy thinks he's going to lose, and the trans movement

1563
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 5: can't afford the loss. But they need to take the loss.

1564
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 5: They need to be told, not only what we know

1565
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 5: to be true, that men are not women and women

1566
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 5: are not men, boys are not girls and girls are

1567
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 5: not boys. Not only do they need to be told,

1568
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 5: no girl will ever be a boy and no boy will.

1569
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 3: Ever be a girl.

1570
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 5: No one's trying to be mean, no one's trying to

1571
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 5: be rude. These are just the facts, and you cannot

1572
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 5: escape them. Now, how do you deal with them? If

1573
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 5: you have gender dysphoria or another mental issue, that's something

1574
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 5: that we should be loving and caring about and helping

1575
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 5: people do. But we never have to pervert reality to

1576
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 5: satisfy somebody else's mental illness. And if we do, and

1577
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 5: if we favor the people who do, and if we

1578
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 5: vote for the people who do, we won't have a society.

1579
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 5: That's what makes it so important. We cannot for a

1580
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 5: second allow others, through fear or intimidation or violence keep

1581
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 5: us from recognizing the world around us, what is true,

1582
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 5: what is fact, and what is fiction. They tried to

1583
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 5: tell you that trans men are men, but I know

1584
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 5: they're not men because you put the word trans in

1585
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 5: front of it. They tried to tell you that trans

1586
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 5: women are women. Same rules apply. And when they were

1587
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 5: asked what is a woman, they all responded with the

1588
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 5: same level of nonsense, ridiculous, shameful, embarrassing answer, as if

1589
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 5: somehow this was in any way an argument.

1590
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:54,440
Speaker 3: You ask them what is a woman? And they all said.

1591
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 5: Like they didn't know, And Katanji Brown Jackson, the Supreme

1592
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 5: Court justice, said, I don't know. I'm not a biologist,

1593
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 5: disqualifying and I look forward to her being impeached because

1594
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 5: she has no business on the Court. I disagree with

1595
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 5: Sonya Soto Mayor vehemently, and I argue that she does

1596
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 5: not vote or adjudicate as much as she does vote

1597
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 5: what is the leftist position?

1598
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 3: That's what I do.

1599
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 5: But even she has had enough of Katanji Brown Jackson's

1600
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 5: nonsense and complete disregarding disrespect for the court itself, which

1601
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 5: she has no respect. Dear lourde, if you go through

1602
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 5: her commentaries and her questions to the Solictenors General and others.

1603
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 5: What I don't understand here is what I'm trying to

1604
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 5: understand here is help me understand. It's always that line,

1605
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 5: always that statement, that crutch that she uses, and you

1606
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 5: start to understand that she's not utilizing a line, She's

1607
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 5: not utilizing a phrase as a crutch.

1608
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 3: She really doesn't understand.

1609
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 5: She might know more about the law than I do,

1610
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 5: but does she know about the law the way a

1611
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 5: Supreme Court justice should know?

1612
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 3: She does not. It's obvious.

1613
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 5: And for recognizing that, I can at least engage a

1614
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 5: level of respect with Sonya Sotomayor, even though I think

1615
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 5: that she has come out with some horrific decisions and

1616
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 5: some just downright ugly descents. I'll say it again, I

1617
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 5: think the Court wants to see Katanji Brown Jackson gone.

1618
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 5: I think they recognize how bad this is, how problematic

1619
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 5: this is. And going back to you know, as we

1620
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 5: talk about Republicans and caving and acquiescing, shame on them

1621
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 5: for allowing her through. The answer should have been is

1622
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 5: we don't care. She's a black woman.

1623
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 3: She can't do it.

1624
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,560
Speaker 5: Oh do you call us racist? She can't define what

1625
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 5: a woman.

1626
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 3: Is screw that.

1627
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 5: That should have been the answer, which involves strength and

1628
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 5: vigor and a spine. And you know, uh, you know,

1629
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:27,759
Speaker 5: was it tightening the sinews right once more into the breach,

1630
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 5: dear friends, once more, that's what we're looking at here.

1631
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 5: You need more of that. But every time we see

1632
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 5: one more step in the direction of saving children from

1633
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 5: abuse of the recognition of the.

1634
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 3: Real world, we're in a better and better and better place.

1635
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 5: And for the record, I am glad that the side

1636
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 5: of quote unquote gender affirming care is losing.

1637
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 3: They should lose.

1638
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 5: I am not in favor of people who are confused

1639
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 5: getting any abuse. I'm not in favor of those people

1640
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 5: being vilified. I have no anger with somebody who's having

1641
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 5: this mental issue. I only want to get them the

1642
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 5: help that they rightfully deserve. As an American, as a

1643
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 5: human being, I want them to get help. I don't

1644
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 5: want to confuse them. I don't want to buy into

1645
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 5: the lie. I don't want to help them spread lies.

1646
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 5: Who would And the answer is progressives that buy into

1647
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 5: this lie, that push kids into this lie, that try

1648
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 5: and build around this lie. They are really They're awful, awful,

1649
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 5: awful people and the tougher it is for them to

1650
01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 5: abuse children and hurt children, the better. So hopefully this

1651
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 5: leads to a case where Scotis says boys are not

1652
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 5: girls and girls are not boys.

1653
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 3: What are we all nuts?

1654
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 5: Anything that gets us closer to that good And yes,

1655
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 5: I understand the grossness of this all in that in

1656
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 5: a world where you need the Supreme Court to state

1657
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 5: that men are not women and women are not men

1658
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 5: in any place like in the UK, they actually had

1659
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 5: to define what a woman is. That's so gross. That

1660
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 5: is such an awful step for society and admittedly for women,

1661
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 5: that's gotta be humiliating. You need it to be defined

1662
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 5: because these progressives are trying to erase you. Dang that

1663
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 5: I have not lost sight of that, guys at all.

1664
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 5: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. So Boston

1665
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 5: sees itself as a sanctuary city. Donald Trump is not

1666
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 5: interested in anybody who sees themselves as a sanctuary city.

1667
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 5: And now Trump is saying, because the World Cup is

1668
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 5: coming to the US, if you don't get your act together,

1669
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,799
Speaker 5: I'm going to pull the World Cup games from Boston.

1670
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, So good to be with you.

1671
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:14,600
Speaker 5: I don't even know if he could do that. But

1672
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 5: this was the Q and A in the briefing. I

1673
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,839
Speaker 5: shouldn't say the briefing the questions the president took yesterday.

1674
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 3: And then they have a World Cup. There's several World

1675
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 3: Cup games. I know Argentina knows about World Cups, the

1676
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 3: several World Cup games. Could those games move to city?

1677
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,560
Speaker 9: The Duber would good, We could take them away. I

1678
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 9: love the people of us, and I know the games

1679
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 9: are sold. But your mayor is not good. They're worse

1680
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,480
Speaker 9: than her. At least she's intelligent.

1681
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 3: You know, some are extremely low. IQ does bother me more.

1682
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 9: She's intelligent, but she's radical left and they're taking over

1683
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 9: parts of us.

1684
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 3: And that's a pretty big statement.

1685
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 18: Right.

1686
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 3: We could get them back in about two seconds, or

1687
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 3: she has to do us, call us. We'll go in

1688
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 3: and take them back. But she's afraid because she thinks

1689
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 3: just bad politically. She could take them back to the

1690
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 3: Boston police. That's a great I mean, I know they

1691
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 3: love me. I she'll never tell them to go after

1692
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 3: Trump because they love me and I love them, and

1693
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that they love you.

1694
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 5: But I think the real question here is is this

1695
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 5: about sanctuary city or is this about just crime in

1696
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 5: Boston in general? I mean, a threat to take away

1697
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 5: these games is a torrendous amount of money lost to

1698
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 5: the city.

1699
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody would want that.

1700
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 5: We should also be clear that Michelle wou the Mayor

1701
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 5: of Boston, is a very unseerious person, a radical leftist.

1702
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 5: And if this is what Boston wants, I say, let

1703
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 5: Boston deal with it. Let Boston suffer. But the problem

1704
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 5: is is that you can say this about a lot

1705
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,759
Speaker 5: of cities and you live in some of those cities

1706
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 5: and that's not you, And you're like, why do I

1707
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 5: have to suffer? Because these people that's where all this,

1708
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 5: that's where all of it comes from. We gotta go help,

1709
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 5: We gotta go help.

1710
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,719
Speaker 3: You know, some people have to learn to help themselves.

1711
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 3: Do I argue against what was done in DC? I

1712
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 3: don't do. I argue that cities that want your help

1713
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 3: you should go help.

1714
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 14: I do.

1715
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 5: Cities that don't want your help and want to feel

1716
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 5: the pain, they feel the pain. Isn't that the way

1717
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,600
Speaker 5: it's supposed to go? The citizens have to learn to

1718
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 5: vote better, to do better for themselves.

1719
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 3: Isn't shouldn't that be the lesson. Seems to me like

1720
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 3: that should be the lesson. Find everything at Tony Katz

1721
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 3: dot com. I will catch you tomorrow. Everyone, take care,