WEBVTT - Best of JMV 8/26/26

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<v Speaker 1>The Ride with JMV.

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<v Speaker 2>You count three seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say anything. Then they'll ask you again.

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<v Speaker 3>And you say, why are you asking?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to explain myself. 93.5 and 107.5. The Fan.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, that was a week ago, wasn't it? Dave Kechter

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<v Speaker 4>on this show. Memorable for, I guess, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong reasons, right? Because we really didn't understand what

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<v Speaker 4>the hell he was talking about last week. Hopefully, I

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<v Speaker 4>did not hear from anybody that happened to see him

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<v Speaker 4>at Helium, but hopefully things went well for him. Champ

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<v Speaker 4>from Anchorman was a little bit off the mark this

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<v Speaker 4>time last Wednesday while we're at the State Fair. Today,

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<v Speaker 4>we're at Logan Street location. This is Kroger, everybody. And

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<v Speaker 4>we are doing this and doing this for a specific reason.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called Help in the Heartland. The campaign roundup at

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<v Speaker 4>Kroger Checkouts. You can donate in that fashion, too.

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<v Speaker 1>317-239-1070.

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<v Speaker 4>Keyword give. You can donate as well there. 1075thefan. com. So

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<v Speaker 4>many ways you can do it. And as you can see,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're watching via YouTube behind me right here, we

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<v Speaker 4>have everybody involved. Swift is here from Hot 100.9. Hammer

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<v Speaker 4>is here from Hammer and Nigel. We've got, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>good folks down at Hank. I think Mindy's down there

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<v Speaker 4>on Hank, and Dan Pantos is down there on Hank FM.

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<v Speaker 4>That's 97.1 Hank FM right there. So it is a group.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a team effort, which Chris Denary, who joins us,

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<v Speaker 4>the voice of the Pacers, here in Noblesville at the

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<v Speaker 4>Kroger location.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get down with that. We're all a part

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<v Speaker 1>of a team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>No question about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Kroger, a great partner of Pacer Sports and Entertainment. Great

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<v Speaker 5>to be sitting out here again, what it looked like

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<v Speaker 5>a week ago. It's hard to believe, John, when people

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<v Speaker 5>that experienced it, but of course those of us who

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<v Speaker 5>maybe just saw it via video. But, you know, great

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<v Speaker 5>to see, you know, so many people coming into Kroger,

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<v Speaker 5>especially here. And again, as they round up, all that

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<v Speaker 5>money will go to the American Red Cross.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there's a little bit of construction in and

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<v Speaker 4>around Noblesville downtown or the square of Noblesville.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is very easy to... Maneuver. I will say this.

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<v Speaker 4>When you think back on Noblesville, the first name that

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<v Speaker 4>always will come to my mind is Tom Coverdale. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>who comes to your mind, athletically speaking, from the town

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<v Speaker 4>of Noblesville? Who is the first person you go, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>because for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me it's Coverdale.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Scott Hafner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Scott Hafner, who played at Evansville and played in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a little bit younger than I am.

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<v Speaker 5>Back when I was in high school in the late 70s,

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<v Speaker 5>Dave Nicholson was the boys coach here.

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<v Speaker 2>They had really good teams.

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<v Speaker 5>They had Mike Chesser and Tom Beatty, all kinds of

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<v Speaker 5>really good players.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, I remember Noblesville.

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<v Speaker 5>And what Mayor Jensen has done, the funny story is,

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<v Speaker 5>is Mayor Jensen's mom and my dad were longtime teachers

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<v Speaker 5>at Westfield High School.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>And so Mayor Jensen's a little bit, maybe a lot

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<v Speaker 5>younger than I am. But to see what he's done

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<v Speaker 5>here in the city of Noblesville, you know, we're very

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<v Speaker 5>fortunate to have the Noblesville boom, the Pacers G League

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<v Speaker 5>franchise over on the other side, and what the city

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<v Speaker 5>of Noblesville has done.

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<v Speaker 6>So.

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<v Speaker 5>Any way that I could come and just be supporter

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<v Speaker 5>of what they're doing here in Noblesville to raise money

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<v Speaker 5>for those. who need it because they had the devastation

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<v Speaker 5>of the floods last week.

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<v Speaker 4>I see my man. There's Bill Reynolds, the dad. And

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<v Speaker 4>look at Jalen. The J-Dog is in the house. See,

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<v Speaker 4>we're not even to 330 yet, are we? Just hit

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<v Speaker 4>over 334. 334, and it's already the greatest day of

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<v Speaker 4>all time because the J-Dog is in the house right here.

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<v Speaker 1>That is outstanding. J-Dawg, good to see you, buddy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>good to see you. You know Chris Denary there, J-Dawg,

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<v Speaker 1>right there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you, two of the fondest individuals from Tipton,

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<v Speaker 4>Indiana that you will ever meet right there, Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Tipton, Indiana. I'll tell you what, a history there.

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<v Speaker 5>And you think about what happened, John, with what happened

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<v Speaker 5>here in central Indiana. And, you know, it started north

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<v Speaker 5>and just you saw what happened to Muncie and Cambridge

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<v Speaker 5>City and those types of places.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, just the river and the water.

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<v Speaker 4>And it went down Waverly near me also had some

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<v Speaker 4>issues with high water.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just, again, you forget how much damage

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<v Speaker 2>water can do. And it did.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to ask you this.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to get into DAZN because there's another layer

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<v Speaker 4>to this. We found out last week that the official

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<v Speaker 4>content provider of the Pacers is going to be DAZN.

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to go over some things on that

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<v Speaker 4>that people may not know about the price points.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, there was another layer of news regarding DAZN today.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that entail?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, DAZN today announced that they are acquiring Everpass Media.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is that important?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Everpass is the distributor for commercial NFL Sunday ticket

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<v Speaker 5>in a partnership with DirecTV and DirecTV Stream.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to end up getting full court through DAZN.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Or what?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>What a lot of people don't know about DAZN is

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<v Speaker 5>they are the streamer internationally for the NFL.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they have relationships with Peacock, Netflix, Paramount, Apple.

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<v Speaker 5>And so this is a monumental story because it's not

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<v Speaker 5>just what they do consumer-wise. It's what they do, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when you go to your favorite, you go to District Tap.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 5>Everpass Media has been the partner to distribute how you

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<v Speaker 5>watch those games in a bar or restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now DAZN owns that.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's the anticipation here? If you're thinking in the

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<v Speaker 4>not-so-distant future, what's the anticipation with this move?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think what DAZN has done, developed a partnership

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<v Speaker 5>with the Pacers. Earlier they had announced a partnership with

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<v Speaker 5>Minnesota and the Timberwolves. It looks like there are going

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<v Speaker 5>to be some other teams involved. And I think what

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people forget is just a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 5>DAZN announced that they're becoming the distribution partner, the streaming

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<v Speaker 5>partner with MSG and with Yes Network, with the Knicks,

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<v Speaker 5>with the Rangers, with the Nets. All those New York

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<v Speaker 5>teams who were trying to do it on their own

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<v Speaker 5>are now working with DAZN because they've been a proven model,

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<v Speaker 5>not just here in the States, but pretty much internationally.

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<v Speaker 5>So And I think what we've talked about, and I

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<v Speaker 5>listened to, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I did miss that interview, though, on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're probably not missing much out of that. We're

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<v Speaker 4>still trying to figure out what the hell went down.

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<v Speaker 5>But last Thursday, when I got back from South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 5>I had a five and a half hour mow because

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<v Speaker 5>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so my grass was so long. So I

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<v Speaker 2>had you in from three to six.

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<v Speaker 5>But what's important, you know, about DAZN is the opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>that they will have to for anybody to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to watch. I think the pricing points that they made, outstanding.

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<v Speaker 5>You were talking about your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom.

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<v Speaker 2>That you can share.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>You can share two IP addresses. That's $ 79. 99.

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<v Speaker 2>So if two people want to share, that's $ 40 a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>The other thing is, John, 22 games will be free

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<v Speaker 5>behind the paywall. 15 of those at a soon-to-be-announced over-the-air

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<v Speaker 5>station in Indianapolis. seven additional games on the zone, and

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<v Speaker 5>all four preseason games, including Tyrese Halliburton's return to Ames, Iowa,

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<v Speaker 5>at Iowa State. So all of a sudden, you have

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<v Speaker 5>the opportunity, and again, with a wonderful app. to watch

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<v Speaker 5>those games and and again it it's not for me

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<v Speaker 5>to tell people how to spend their money but I

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<v Speaker 5>will tell you I think Mel Raines and her staff

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<v Speaker 5>did an outstanding job and how they negotiated this not

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<v Speaker 5>just for this year but to position Pacers basketball for

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<v Speaker 5>the future as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So Chris is this the future for the entire league

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<v Speaker 4>is that the path because we have that news right

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<v Speaker 4>there is this the path is this where we're going

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<v Speaker 4>where the entire league is going to be What's.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to be interesting, what the NBA is talking about

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<v Speaker 5>is having a national streaming partner moving forward. And we'll

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<v Speaker 5>just have to wait and see how all of that works.

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<v Speaker 5>But the NBA is very dynamic in what they've done.

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<v Speaker 5>And they've done a great job with the new package

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<v Speaker 5>they put in place. There are more games over the

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<v Speaker 5>air on national TV. They added Peacock. They added Prime.

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<v Speaker 5>So there are more ways that you can watch games.

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<v Speaker 5>And what that says, John, is there's a lot of interest.

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<v Speaker 5>People want to be a part of it, right? And

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<v Speaker 5>it's why you see college sports. You see the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 5>If you want to watch IU or Purdue basketball or football,

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to have games on Peacock. You're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have the games on Prime. It's because there's so much

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<v Speaker 5>interest in sports. Sports is the best live television or

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<v Speaker 5>streaming opportunity that there is, and people are willing to

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<v Speaker 5>do that.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Chris Denary, who is the voice of the Pacers,

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<v Speaker 4>the zone this season. Now, a former Pacer who was

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<v Speaker 4>a part of the Avicii Zubac deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And believe me, there was no bigger fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Bill McMather, and I still do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love it because he's all ball all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of wonder, and you and I can talk

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<v Speaker 4>about this, whether he kind of wanted to leave more

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<v Speaker 4>than they wanted him to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that. But today, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the Clippers any longer.

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<v Speaker 4>Now he is in New Orleans, and that is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the competition when Tyrese Halliburton returns for real

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<v Speaker 4>on the road in New Orleans. And Benedict Matherin is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a member in that night number one

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<v Speaker 4>of the Pelicans.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if I saw it, it's a two-year deal with

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<v Speaker 5>a player option in the second year.

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<v Speaker 1>So what Ben is doing is he's betting on himself.

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<v Speaker 5>He's betting that in year one with New Orleans, he

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<v Speaker 5>can have the type of year that has him re-sign

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<v Speaker 5>at a higher value in New Orleans or go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Benedict's a wonderful player.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a favorite of mine.

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<v Speaker 5>And, John, what you have to think of, and we've

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<v Speaker 5>seen it in sports, in any sport. To get a

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<v Speaker 5>good player or a great player like the Pacers, I think,

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<v Speaker 5>got in Evita Zubats, you have to give up a

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<v Speaker 5>really good player, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's just how it works. And so I

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<v Speaker 5>think for Benedict Matherin, as you looked at the way

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<v Speaker 5>the Pacers are constructed, their starting five is set. It's Halliburton,

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<v Speaker 5>it's Nembhard, it's Siakam, it's Neesmith, and it's Zubats. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure Benedict Matherin wants to be a starter. He was

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<v Speaker 5>coming off the bench with the Clippers. We'll have to

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<v Speaker 5>wait and see what happens next. with him with the Pelicans,

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<v Speaker 5>but there's no ill will from anybody against Benedict Mather,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's a wonderful person, but that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Life and times in sports.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you compare?

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<v Speaker 4>We've yet to see Kelly Oubre in a Pacel uniform,

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<v Speaker 4>but how would you compare the two?

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<v Speaker 1>Because most notably, people are saying, well.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Kelly Oubre comes in, and he's more expensive than

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<v Speaker 4>Matherin was as a restricted free agent going down betting

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<v Speaker 4>on himself at New Orleans. How do you view those

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<v Speaker 4>two players in the midst of this Pacer team?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, just from a person standpoint, again, I think Kelly

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<v Speaker 5>Oubre will be very comfortable coming off the bench in

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<v Speaker 5>a six-man role. Is that something that Benedict Matherin wanted

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<v Speaker 5>wherever he was, whether it's with the Pacers? With the Clippers,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that. Only he knows that. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think with what Kelly Oubre has done over the last

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<v Speaker 5>number of years with the teams that he's played with, Philadelphia, Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 5>he's put up some very consistent numbers, 14 points, five rebounds.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a long defender.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the Pacers are very happy to have somebody

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<v Speaker 5>of Kelly Oubre's talents to bring off the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, more on that.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got some pacer conversation because Chris is going to

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<v Speaker 4>hang here for the entirety, man. We thank you for

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<v Speaker 4>being a part of this and thank everybody out there

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Now, before I get one more time to

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<v Speaker 4>how you can be a part of this event today,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to get Rafael Sanchez on the show here

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<v Speaker 4>in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he understands that. There's zero way.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what, my brother, if you give me

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<v Speaker 4>five minutes on the other side, all right, I've got

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<v Speaker 4>to have Rafael Sanchez on this show here A couple

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<v Speaker 4>of things. Mike Chappell had this. Everybody covering the Colts

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<v Speaker 4>had this a little bit earlier today. We knew that

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<v Speaker 4>there was going to be some sort of move. Makai

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<v Speaker 4>Blackman was a guy that they acquired, I think, going

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<v Speaker 4>back to 2025.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, a year ago in August.

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<v Speaker 4>For a six rounder. And certainly he looked a lot

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<v Speaker 4>better today. in the games a year ago than what

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<v Speaker 4>he had so far in the preseason. And with the

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<v Speaker 4>way he looked in the preseason, he was waived, and

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<v Speaker 4>the Colts signed Kenneth Harris a little bit earlier today.

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<v Speaker 4>So a shuffle of sorts in the cornerback room for

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<v Speaker 4>the Colts.

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<v Speaker 1>Mooney Ward.

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<v Speaker 4>Was meeting with the media earlier today, and the good news,

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<v Speaker 4>he is back at practice, back feeling good after the

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<v Speaker 4>Tuesday gathering.

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<v Speaker 1>He expects to be ready for the opener.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the news coming from The Colts a little

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<v Speaker 4>It's 93.5 and 107.5 The Fan. but on the Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Bowen with a lot of Colts news today. I

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<v Speaker 1>think some significant stuff, right?

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<v Speaker 4>With Blackman being waved and kind of shuffling the deck

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<v Speaker 4>in that secondary defensively for the Colts, and then the

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<v Speaker 4>words of Cherverius Ward.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting out there, to say the least, correct? Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 6>Alec Pierce-Watts, that seems to be the top of mind

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<v Speaker 6>for everybody, still not practicing. Just to update everybody on that.

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<v Speaker 6>So that now continues here. Deep into August, they'll practice tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 6>It's usually the lightest practice of the week. If he

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't go tomorrow, then I don't think anything until Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 6>So you're starting to get a little closer to September 13th. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>as far as roster news, like you said, Makai Blackman

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<v Speaker 6>was cut. For those not really familiar with Makai Blackman,

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<v Speaker 6>he actually played the most snaps of any corner. on

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<v Speaker 6>the football team last year. But for those that have

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<v Speaker 6>watched the preseason, you saw why he was cut. He

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<v Speaker 6>was struggling mightily in coverage and with penalties. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>roster move there. I'm trying to think what else. Josh

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<v Speaker 6>Downs missed with a calf injury. And yeah, Keenan Allen

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<v Speaker 6>had a bunch of catches at today's practice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious your thoughts on Alec Pierce.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a deadline for you in mind to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that there's nothing being compromised to start this season

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<v Speaker 4>as far as this practice return? Are you comfortable in

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<v Speaker 4>your feeling maybe more so than you were a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of days ago?

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<v Speaker 6>It's starting to wane a little bit. I think Tuesday

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<v Speaker 6>is vital or next week is vital for him to

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<v Speaker 6>be practicing. I mean, that would leave him two full

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<v Speaker 6>weeks behind. Now the question would become, OK, assuming he

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<v Speaker 6>practices for two full weeks, how effective can he be

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<v Speaker 6>on September 13th and how much can he play? You know,

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<v Speaker 6>Pierce plays a ton of snaps. You know, he would

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<v Speaker 6>out snap Michael Pittman Jr., you know, I think often. And,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, even though he didn't have maybe a ton

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<v Speaker 6>of catches, he was still playing well. Virtually every offensive snap.

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<v Speaker 6>And so, you know, that's such a weapon. It's such

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<v Speaker 6>a threat when you have him out there, even if

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<v Speaker 6>you're not necessarily throwing the ball to him, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>every other play. So that would probably become my other question. Again,

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<v Speaker 6>how effective would he be week one? And then how

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<v Speaker 6>much is he playing?

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<v Speaker 1>Just period.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I would say Tuesday, John. Yeah, I kind

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<v Speaker 6>of thought this week, you know, that would be three

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<v Speaker 6>full weeks. That would be plenty of time. You start

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<v Speaker 6>to get to next week and it's typically a light week.

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<v Speaker 6>in the NFL that week just before Labor Day. And

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<v Speaker 6>then you get into regular season mode after that. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>the time is starting to tick just a hair faster,

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<v Speaker 6>I would say.

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<v Speaker 5>Kevin, it looked like reading online that Daniel Jones had

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<v Speaker 5>another good practice today. And, you know, from my perspective

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<v Speaker 5>with the Pacers, of course, you have the two leaders

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<v Speaker 5>of your teams, Daniel Jones, Tyrese Halliburton, both coming back

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<v Speaker 5>from Achilles injuries. What's impressed you the most about watching

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<v Speaker 5>Daniel Jones here in training camp?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, first off, great to hear the voice of my

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<v Speaker 6>basketball coach growing up, and I hope the boys are

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<v Speaker 6>well and the grandkids are well.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Daniel Jones had a really nice day.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he was 19 to 24 from a very unofficial standpoint.

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<v Speaker 6>But one thing we've noted kind of in training camp,

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<v Speaker 6>when they have been hurt at the skill positions, and

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<v Speaker 6>today he practiced without Alec Pierce, without Josh Downs, without

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<v Speaker 6>Tyler Warren– the defense has pretty much dominated those days.

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<v Speaker 6>I would not say that was the case at all today.

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<v Speaker 6>And again, Keenan Allen had probably five or six catches

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<v Speaker 6>and he had a big deep ball. Jones did do

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<v Speaker 6>a Laquan Treadwell with a sauce gardener and combine them.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, the most.

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<v Speaker 6>Impressive thing to Jones, I think it's just been the

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<v Speaker 6>amount of work he's done. You know, the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>he has taken literally every single starting rep, I think

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<v Speaker 6>today was the 15th practice we've watched so far. Um,

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<v Speaker 6>But I thought Tyrese– I'm sure you caught the comments.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought Tyrese's comments Monday night were, per usual from him,

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<v Speaker 6>just very honest about their differences in the rehabs in

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<v Speaker 6>that you look at a calendar and Tyrese will be

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<v Speaker 6>16 months removed when we get to October, whatever it is, 21st,

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<v Speaker 6>whereas Daniel will be nine months removed when the Colts

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<v Speaker 6>get to September 13th. And Ty was saying on Monday–

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's amazing to me how different I felt

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<v Speaker 6>at 10 months versus 13 months. Just what three months

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<v Speaker 6>can do for you in this rehab. Yes, at 10 months,

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<v Speaker 6>did Tyrese think he could play basketball? Yeah, he did.

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<v Speaker 6>But again, he's made comments before that even some of

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<v Speaker 6>the practice guys were kind of getting the best of

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<v Speaker 6>him on the offensive end of the floor three or

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<v Speaker 6>four months ago, whereas now he feels a lot different.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that'll be kind of the looming question

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<v Speaker 6>then with Jones is when you get to the regular season,

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<v Speaker 6>it's one thing to play. Again, it's another thing to

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<v Speaker 6>be himself. And and how much does he feel himself

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<v Speaker 6>early in the season? And then how much better does

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<v Speaker 6>he feel as the season moves along?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you view going into last year, for example?

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<v Speaker 4>And then we saw just how good they were up until,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, obviously they were compromised with the injury to

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<v Speaker 4>their quarterback. How do you view what they have this

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<v Speaker 4>year going into this season compared to how you felt

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<v Speaker 4>about that team dynamic this time a year ago?

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<v Speaker 7>Good question.

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<v Speaker 6>Um, You know, I'm trying to think what my win law.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I had them right around nine last year.

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<v Speaker 6>I probably won't be overwhelmingly different this year. You know, offensively, obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't think Daniel Jones and that unit would look

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<v Speaker 6>historically as good as it did. That was certainly the

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<v Speaker 6>big outlier. Defensively, it was probably worse than maybe I thought,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's kind of where the gap was closed to

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<v Speaker 6>get to a.

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<v Speaker 7>Similar win total, and obviously the injuries played into it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think defensively it's kind of more the volatile unit,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, if you put injuries to the side of,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, if Latu takes a third-year jump and if

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<v Speaker 6>those corners stay healthy, you know, could you really have

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<v Speaker 6>something that was, you know, certainly not what you.

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<v Speaker 7>Had last year?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, like I thought the Lou Anarumo defense in

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<v Speaker 6>year one was probably a little bit too much bend

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<v Speaker 6>but don't break for his liking. I think he wants

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<v Speaker 6>to be more aggressive. I think he wants to play

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<v Speaker 6>man coverage with these corners. And I think he wants

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<v Speaker 6>to bring the house when those opportunities do arise. So

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<v Speaker 6>is that more of a playmaking defense? Is that more of,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a little bit, you know, risk reward too.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, it just seems like, and I'm trying not

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<v Speaker 6>to go off of Saturday's preseason game, but it's just,

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<v Speaker 6>you're just banking on a lot, a lot of health situations.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just worry about the depth of, at those

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 6>spots and you hear Javerius Ward's comments today about managing

0:22:55.100 --> 0:22:57.790
<v Speaker 6>back pain and, you know, any 30 year old playing

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<v Speaker 6>in the NFL, managing back pain for 17 weeks, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>even putting his injury situation to.

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<v Speaker 7>The side, I think would be difficult. So, you know,

0:23:06.710 --> 0:23:08.510
<v Speaker 7>it's just those bets. It's Jones.

0:23:08.609 --> 0:23:10.609
<v Speaker 6>It's, you know, we have the receiver position, maybe a

0:23:10.609 --> 0:23:13.470
<v Speaker 6>little bit of Buckner. That's just a lot at some

0:23:13.510 --> 0:23:15.169
<v Speaker 6>of your most important players in the roster.

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<v Speaker 4>Kev, I have you here. You cover everything, but certainly

0:23:19.380 --> 0:23:21.419
<v Speaker 4>the Colts right now. I have Kristen Neri here, the

0:23:21.460 --> 0:23:24.580
<v Speaker 4>voice of the Pacers. This has been my thought all along.

0:23:25.700 --> 0:23:29.740
<v Speaker 4>They're similar but different for a reason to me. The Pacers,

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:32.919
<v Speaker 4>you bring everybody back, or what is kind of the

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 4>damning quote around here, running it back. But if you're

0:23:35.980 --> 0:23:38.810
<v Speaker 4>the Pacers and you're Kevin Pritchard to Chad Buchanan and

0:23:38.850 --> 0:23:40.830
<v Speaker 4>Rick Carlisle, you do that for a reason because you've

0:23:40.869 --> 0:23:43.669
<v Speaker 4>seen the results. You've seen how close it was, and

0:23:43.710 --> 0:23:47.409
<v Speaker 4>you believe in that. With the Colts, you basically bring

0:23:47.750 --> 0:23:51.899
<v Speaker 4>some folks back, the most legitimate pieces to this puzzle

0:23:51.940 --> 0:23:56.220
<v Speaker 4>back this year because you didn't have much of a choice.

0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 4>So it's weird how you're kind of forced to believe

0:24:00.540 --> 0:24:02.500
<v Speaker 4>in what the Colts are doing right now because there's

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.140
<v Speaker 4>really no other alternative if you do bring everybody back

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.030
<v Speaker 4>or run it back, especially organizationally and coaching-wise.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the Pacers, you have a belief because you.

0:24:12.940 --> 0:24:16.020
<v Speaker 4>in the core group and what they accomplished and what

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 4>they could still accomplish with Tyrese Halliburton and his return

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<v Speaker 4>together it is a very interesting dynamic you you put

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 4>those two pieces together with the Pacers and the Colts

0:24:24.580 --> 0:24:26.620
<v Speaker 4>at all in that particular fashion.

0:24:27.420 --> 0:24:29.420
<v Speaker 6>Yeah I can I can hear where that's coming from

0:24:29.510 --> 0:24:31.850
<v Speaker 6>I mean obviously the Pacers have earned trust of their

0:24:31.890 --> 0:24:34.030
<v Speaker 6>fan base that the Colts would dream of you know

0:24:34.050 --> 0:24:38.990
<v Speaker 6>just from what Kevin Pritchard has done In building this

0:24:39.050 --> 0:24:41.770
<v Speaker 6>championship contender, I would argue, too, the Pacers have probably

0:24:42.090 --> 0:24:45.300
<v Speaker 6>added a little bit more, depending on how you feel

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.620
<v Speaker 6>about Ibiza Zubats. But, you know, they've added a little

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 6>bit more to that. You know, that's why I think

0:24:50.580 --> 0:24:53.270
<v Speaker 6>there's a misconception about the Colts season. You know, when

0:24:53.290 --> 0:24:56.310
<v Speaker 6>you hear the phrase run it back, I understand where

0:24:56.350 --> 0:25:00.020
<v Speaker 6>people come from. Granted, they did lose probably a handful

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.640
<v Speaker 6>of rather notable players in terms of just pure starts,

0:25:03.740 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 6>whether that's Braden Smith or Michael Pittman Jr. or Quiddie

0:25:06.540 --> 0:25:10.180
<v Speaker 6>Paye or Zaire Franklin or Kenny Moore or Nick Cross.

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.820
<v Speaker 6>It's just the replacements for those. Okay, Miles Turner, for example,

0:25:14.859 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 6>he'd fall into one of those categories of those Colts

0:25:17.460 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 6>players I just named, but the thought there is you've

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 6>replaced him with better. I think there's a debate about, again,

0:25:24.830 --> 0:25:27.709
<v Speaker 6>how much better are you at some of these departing

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 6>names that we're seeing here. Is Michael Pittman Jr. and

0:25:31.300 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 6>Keenan Allen a wash? Is Braden Smith and Jalen Travis

0:25:34.580 --> 0:25:37.699
<v Speaker 6>a wash? Is Zyre Franklin, I don't even see, you

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.290
<v Speaker 6>can say CJ Allen, I don't think he's going to

0:25:39.310 --> 0:25:41.369
<v Speaker 6>be a week one starter. Is, you know, Zyre Franklin

0:25:41.390 --> 0:25:43.850
<v Speaker 6>and Akeem Davis Gaither a wash? You know, those are

0:25:43.869 --> 0:25:46.570
<v Speaker 6>some of the questions that I think you have. Whereas

0:25:46.590 --> 0:25:51.370
<v Speaker 6>with the Pacers, again, first off, they have deserved earned

0:25:51.410 --> 0:25:53.650
<v Speaker 6>trust with their fan base and such belief in their

0:25:53.670 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 6>head coach. in their core, you know, comparing Rick Carlisle

0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 6>and Shane Steichen's resumes would be a bit ludicrous to do.

0:26:01.300 --> 0:26:04.130
<v Speaker 6>And then obviously they've added a guy like Zubat to,

0:26:04.150 --> 0:26:06.070
<v Speaker 6>you know, many believe is an upgrade over what they

0:26:06.109 --> 0:26:07.930
<v Speaker 6>had at center in the previous run.

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.780
<v Speaker 5>Especially, John and Kevin, what you talk about all the time, John,

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:19.700
<v Speaker 5>is what Tyrese Halliburton means to the franchise. And what

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.110
<v Speaker 5>we saw off the floor, what he did to bring

0:26:22.170 --> 0:26:27.590
<v Speaker 5>back a sellout crowd at Victory Field and just the

0:26:27.670 --> 0:26:32.340
<v Speaker 5>love that he has for the organization. and for the city,

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.540
<v Speaker 5>and for the fans, but importantly, what he does on

0:26:35.580 --> 0:26:38.980
<v Speaker 5>the floor. I mean, I have been captivated at times

0:26:39.700 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 5>going back to YouTube and watching two years ago some

0:26:43.010 --> 0:26:46.780
<v Speaker 5>of the performances that he has had. in big game situations,

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.330
<v Speaker 5>whether it was a key regular season game, but more importantly,

0:26:50.660 --> 0:26:54.890
<v Speaker 5>in that playoff run against the Bucs, the Knicks, the Cavs,

0:26:55.070 --> 0:26:58.550
<v Speaker 5>and the Thunder. And so that gives you, it's not

0:26:58.590 --> 0:27:00.350
<v Speaker 5>just hope, Kevin, as you said.

0:27:00.670 --> 0:27:01.290
<v Speaker 2>You've seen it.

0:27:01.650 --> 0:27:03.619
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the Pacers have proven it.

0:27:04.140 --> 0:27:05.500
<v Speaker 2>Over a two-year period.

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.060
<v Speaker 5>And what, to a man, they want to do is show, hey,

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.900
<v Speaker 5>last year was a blip on the radar. We weren't healthy.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.420
<v Speaker 5>We had all kinds of different lineup combinations, I think, approaching, what,

0:27:17.420 --> 0:27:20.940
<v Speaker 5>30 to 40 different starting lineups or whatever it was.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.090
<v Speaker 5>So I think with that, to your point, is Chad

0:27:25.109 --> 0:27:27.210
<v Speaker 5>Buchanan has said, look, we owe it to this group

0:27:27.970 --> 0:27:30.210
<v Speaker 5>to bring them back and let them have another run

0:27:30.290 --> 0:27:32.510
<v Speaker 5>at it because they were so close two years ago.

0:27:33.740 --> 0:27:34.100
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And again, I mean, just playoff runs, like even if

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 6>you remove the run to game seven, I mean, how

0:27:39.420 --> 0:27:43.430
<v Speaker 6>about the year before, you know, you won two playoff series.

0:27:43.470 --> 0:27:43.710
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:44.150 --> 0:27:46.770
<v Speaker 6>You then, you know, I know the Boston series ended

0:27:46.830 --> 0:27:48.369
<v Speaker 6>in a sweep, but I mean, you got to the

0:27:48.430 --> 0:27:52.659
<v Speaker 6>Eastern Conference finals. I mean, again, to update everybody on

0:27:52.700 --> 0:27:55.220
<v Speaker 6>the Colts and their recent playoff run, it's 11 years

0:27:55.260 --> 0:27:58.290
<v Speaker 6>without a division title. It's eight years without a playoff

0:27:58.330 --> 0:28:00.969
<v Speaker 6>win and it's five years without a playoff appearance in

0:28:01.010 --> 0:28:04.090
<v Speaker 6>a league where 14 of the 30 team, 40, 14

0:28:04.090 --> 0:28:06.860
<v Speaker 6>of the 32, you know, make it, you know, they've,

0:28:06.930 --> 0:28:10.889
<v Speaker 6>they've up the, the playoff, participants to seven.

0:28:11.050 --> 0:28:12.470
<v Speaker 7>They did that back during the COVID year.

0:28:12.490 --> 0:28:15.310
<v Speaker 6>So now it's, you know, seven of 16 at each conference.

0:28:15.330 --> 0:28:17.610
<v Speaker 6>So it should be, you know, it is easier than

0:28:17.650 --> 0:28:21.369
<v Speaker 6>what it was prior to 2020. So, you know, I

0:28:21.410 --> 0:28:23.250
<v Speaker 6>just think there is some, you know, when you get

0:28:23.330 --> 0:28:27.150
<v Speaker 6>to April, May, June basketball, it's different. When you get

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 6>to January football, it's different. And, you know, this group

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.540
<v Speaker 6>of Colts obviously isn't yet to be there. So I

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 6>think that's another big, big difference in all this.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Kev, very quickly, James and Caleb and I played

0:28:43.220 --> 0:28:46.300
<v Speaker 4>last night at Center Grove, and Trace Jackson Davis played

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.700
<v Speaker 4>with us, and then today his younger brother, Taven Jackson,

0:28:50.180 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 4>was named the starting quarterback, which we felt all along

0:28:52.540 --> 0:28:54.540
<v Speaker 4>was going to be the case. North Texas, they score

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.340
<v Speaker 4>off against the defending national champion football Hoosiers in game

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 4>number one. How interesting is that dynamic going to be

0:29:02.500 --> 0:29:04.620
<v Speaker 4>for you? I know this football is back and talking

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.310
<v Speaker 4>about you being a defending national champion is just weird

0:29:07.330 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 4>enough the way that it is, but and a former Hoosier,

0:29:10.260 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 4>former center Grover, and all that going into Bloomington in

0:29:13.460 --> 0:29:14.140
<v Speaker 4>week number one.

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:16.150
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, James and I.

0:29:16.110 --> 0:29:18.420
<v Speaker 6>Were talking about that earlier, just how, you know, Taven

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.610
<v Speaker 6>Jackson is kind of this, he's almost this forgotten character

0:29:21.650 --> 0:29:24.470
<v Speaker 6>at times in all of this IU talk. You know,

0:29:25.070 --> 0:29:27.170
<v Speaker 6>if you want to go back to the Brendan Sorsby conversation,

0:29:27.230 --> 0:29:29.490
<v Speaker 6>wasn't it him and Brendan Sorsby competing for the starting

0:29:29.510 --> 0:29:33.510
<v Speaker 6>job years ago? Can you imagine how things could have

0:29:33.530 --> 0:29:36.820
<v Speaker 6>been different had Sorsby won that? And then again, he's

0:29:36.980 --> 0:29:39.430
<v Speaker 6>Curtis Rourke's backup. I think he started a game.

0:29:39.470 --> 0:29:39.970
<v Speaker 7>If I remember correctly.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 6>He didn't Rourke injure his thumb late in the season.

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 6>And I think Taven started a game or two there late.

0:29:46.780 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 6>And then obviously, you know, he transfers and here he's

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.370
<v Speaker 6>coming back for that game. So, yeah, I would say,

0:29:53.390 --> 0:29:57.340
<v Speaker 6>you know, Honestly, you could be starting for North Texas

0:29:57.380 --> 0:29:59.260
<v Speaker 6>and I'd be thrilled to be talking about college football

0:29:59.300 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 6>and not talking about everything else that goes on with

0:30:01.220 --> 0:30:01.820
<v Speaker 6>college football.

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.060
<v Speaker 7>But yes, that is definitely an added storyline.

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 6>And I would imagine one that Taven and his brother

0:30:07.500 --> 0:30:10.070
<v Speaker 6>and many others down there on the south side will

0:30:10.110 --> 0:30:12.410
<v Speaker 6>be paying attention to come noon next Saturday.

0:30:15.100 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 4>A good friend, Ray, too, who is just an excellent dude.

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.770
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be interesting. It's a good way to

0:30:21.810 --> 0:30:24.650
<v Speaker 4>put it right there. Kev, I appreciate it. Thanks for

0:30:24.690 --> 0:30:27.370
<v Speaker 4>you and Jane for being out here earlier today. And

0:30:28.170 --> 0:30:30.130
<v Speaker 4>thanks for the conversation on this Wednesday, pal.

0:30:30.170 --> 0:30:30.810
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 7>You boys look great on the Zoom. Chris, as I said,

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.540
<v Speaker 7>best to you and the family. And tell Evan and

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:37.220
<v Speaker 7>company I said hi.

0:30:38.020 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>I will. Thank you, bud. That's Kevin Bowen right there,

0:30:43.060 --> 0:30:43.810
<v Speaker 1>Fan Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 4>To discuss that and more around the NFL from the

0:30:49.550 --> 0:30:52.010
<v Speaker 4>NFL Network, you see him really all over, too, and

0:30:52.030 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 4>you can find him on social media platforms. For example,

0:30:55.260 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 4>you can find him on X with a lot of

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 4>his breakdown and a lot of his videos at Baldy NFL.

0:31:01.500 --> 0:31:04.380
<v Speaker 4>Brian Baldinger is with us now. Brian, thank you for

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:05.060
<v Speaker 4>the time today.

0:31:05.100 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>How are you, pal?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, guys. Good to be with you, man. Good

0:31:08.890 --> 0:31:10.980
<v Speaker 3>listening to you here. Glad to join you.

0:31:12.150 --> 0:31:13.050
<v Speaker 1>I want to start here.

0:31:13.370 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Your impression on the Colts offensively being able to be

0:31:19.930 --> 0:31:25.020
<v Speaker 4>as good, as prominent this season as they were before

0:31:25.060 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 4>the Daniel Jones injury of a year ago?

0:31:27.500 --> 0:31:30.979
<v Speaker 3>I think they have a chance. I mean, you know,

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.580
<v Speaker 3>they just gave Alec Pierce a big fat contract, and

0:31:34.420 --> 0:31:36.729
<v Speaker 3>Kyler Warren comes back for a second year. They rebuilt

0:31:36.770 --> 0:31:39.790
<v Speaker 3>their offensive line last year. Jonathan Taylor had a great season.

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Daniel Jones was playing great up until the injury. Really

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 3>great up until Pittsburgh. I think they were 8-1 or

0:31:48.340 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 3>8-2 when they went to Pittsburgh. It seemed like it

0:31:51.060 --> 0:31:53.340
<v Speaker 3>was kind of downhill from there. Obviously, once the injury

0:31:53.380 --> 0:31:57.750
<v Speaker 3>took over, they had trouble winning the football game. I

0:31:57.990 --> 0:32:02.370
<v Speaker 3>think they could return. The one thing about Daniel, those

0:32:02.430 --> 0:32:05.910
<v Speaker 3>first eight or ten games, he was as accurate as

0:32:05.930 --> 0:32:09.730
<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen him. And the deep ball was in play.

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:13.780
<v Speaker 3>The big chunk plays were in play. He never played

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.740
<v Speaker 3>better in the first 10 games last year. And just

0:32:16.780 --> 0:32:19.770
<v Speaker 3>watching him. out of Graham Park this summer and talking

0:32:19.790 --> 0:32:22.530
<v Speaker 3>to him, you can't really tell that he had the injury.

0:32:22.630 --> 0:32:23.990
<v Speaker 3>And so that's a good sign right now.

0:32:24.410 --> 0:32:27.410
<v Speaker 5>Brian, this is Chris Denary, voice of the Pacers on

0:32:27.510 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 5>DAZN coming up. But a longtime NFL fan, of course,

0:32:32.020 --> 0:32:34.410
<v Speaker 5>have followed the Colts since they moved back in the 80s.

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.060
<v Speaker 2>You're an offensive lineman.

0:32:36.100 --> 0:32:38.959
<v Speaker 5>You look at the great strength of this current Colts team.

0:32:39.420 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 5>You look at the five guys that are going to

0:32:40.860 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 5>throw out there and start in front of Jonathan Taylor

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.230
<v Speaker 5>and Daniel Jones. How impressed are you with with the

0:32:46.270 --> 0:32:48.110
<v Speaker 5>potential of this Colts offensive line?

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.180
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm really impressed. I mean, you know, to be

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:54.380
<v Speaker 3>able to... Change out some really good players there for

0:32:54.420 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Bortolini and Gonsalves. Rebuild that offense line. We're going to

0:32:59.420 --> 0:33:02.810
<v Speaker 3>see what Jalen Travis looks like this year. Replacing a

0:33:02.850 --> 0:33:07.510
<v Speaker 3>pretty good player, Braden Smith. That's going to be where

0:33:07.550 --> 0:33:10.890
<v Speaker 3>all eyes are going. But obviously it starts with Quinton inside.

0:33:12.110 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 3>But I feel like they've got a lot of continuity

0:33:15.620 --> 0:33:18.780
<v Speaker 3>there except for the right tackle. They're very well coached.

0:33:19.180 --> 0:33:22.820
<v Speaker 3>They're a great offensive line coach. You know, Johnson Taylor

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.860
<v Speaker 3>was just awesome last year. Led the league in, you know,

0:33:26.900 --> 0:33:31.790
<v Speaker 3>rushing touchdowns and rushing attempts and had, you know, probably

0:33:31.810 --> 0:33:35.790
<v Speaker 3>the second best season ever. Like, they should be very good.

0:33:35.690 --> 0:33:36.550
<v Speaker 1>Up front, you know.

0:33:37.070 --> 0:33:40.110
<v Speaker 3>We'll see what, you know, what Giddens looks like, you know,

0:33:40.150 --> 0:33:43.130
<v Speaker 3>as a backup and taking some carries off him, maybe

0:33:43.170 --> 0:33:45.910
<v Speaker 3>what McGowan can give him. But I expect it to

0:33:45.950 --> 0:33:48.330
<v Speaker 3>be very good. They've got continuity there. They're well coached,

0:33:48.390 --> 0:33:49.730
<v Speaker 3>and they've got good players up front.

0:33:49.860 --> 0:33:52.980
<v Speaker 1>Brian Baldinger joins us again at Baldy NFL.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 4>You can find a lot of his video work and

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.060
<v Speaker 4>breakdowns on social media.

0:33:57.900 --> 0:34:01.150
<v Speaker 1>I look at the start of the schedule. What's that?

0:34:01.490 --> 0:34:02.010
<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that.

0:34:02.370 --> 0:34:04.850
<v Speaker 4>I look at the start of the regular season for

0:34:04.870 --> 0:34:05.330
<v Speaker 4>the Colts.

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.219
<v Speaker 1>There's no gimme's. There's no gimme's anywhere. Don't get me wrong.

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.770
<v Speaker 4>But you start with Baltimore, for example, on the road

0:34:12.790 --> 0:34:15.610
<v Speaker 4>to Kansas City on a Sunday night, Houston, and then

0:34:15.870 --> 0:34:19.290
<v Speaker 4>on the road in London, Jaden Daniels, Washington, Pittsburgh after that.

0:34:20.110 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You feel comfortable about them?

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 4>If they're able to navigate that, not get buried by that,

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 4>do you feel comfortable about the remainder of their schedule

0:34:28.940 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 4>and what they might be able to do accomplishment-wise within

0:34:31.739 --> 0:34:32.750
<v Speaker 4>the AFC South this year?

0:34:33.510 --> 0:34:38.650
<v Speaker 3>The AFC South, it's a different conference, different division than

0:34:38.690 --> 0:34:42.830
<v Speaker 3>what it's been. I mean, Jacksonville won 13 games. That

0:34:42.910 --> 0:34:46.610
<v Speaker 3>defense is stout. Houston has the best defense in football.

0:34:47.110 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 3>That's no joke. The Ravens have been that team. They

0:34:51.180 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 3>weren't last year. We'll see if they get back to

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 3>their ways. Just watching Kansas City two weeks ago, you

0:34:58.620 --> 0:35:02.779
<v Speaker 3>can't tell that Patrick Mahomes had a surgery. Like, he literally,

0:35:03.110 --> 0:35:05.570
<v Speaker 3>he's going to start, he's coming off a Monday night game.

0:35:05.969 --> 0:35:08.070
<v Speaker 3>When you see him against Denver to open the season,

0:35:08.650 --> 0:35:11.089
<v Speaker 3>so it's a short week for them. But honestly, you

0:35:11.130 --> 0:35:14.050
<v Speaker 3>can't project any of this stuff. You know, the Ravens

0:35:14.130 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 3>might be really good, but we don't know what Lamar

0:35:16.700 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 3>and Derrick Henry are going to look like with a

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.060
<v Speaker 3>new coach and a new system and a new coach,

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:24.580
<v Speaker 3>a new offense coordinator, offense line coach. It's all new there.

0:35:25.590 --> 0:35:29.410
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City is completely rebuilding their defense. I don't know

0:35:29.489 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 3>how good they're going to be early in the season. So,

0:35:33.060 --> 0:35:36.049
<v Speaker 3>you know, you've got to be ready to play. But

0:35:36.550 --> 0:35:39.390
<v Speaker 3>the fact is... you know, just watching last week's game

0:35:39.430 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 3>against Atlanta, like nobody's playing. So, you know, I'm comfortable

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.020
<v Speaker 3>saying that September is the new August. And so you're

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:48.420
<v Speaker 3>going to find out what you have and what you

0:35:48.460 --> 0:35:51.020
<v Speaker 3>don't have in some of those matchups you talk about

0:35:51.060 --> 0:35:53.500
<v Speaker 3>to start the season and what you need to get

0:35:53.739 --> 0:35:56.509
<v Speaker 3>better at, what you need to fix and, and how

0:35:56.550 --> 0:35:58.650
<v Speaker 3>you better, you know, figure out ways to win games.

0:35:58.730 --> 0:36:01.090
<v Speaker 3>But again, You're not going to know until you go

0:36:01.110 --> 0:36:04.670
<v Speaker 3>against Baltimore on September 13th and see Kansas City on

0:36:04.710 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 3>that Sunday night. You're going to be trying to figure

0:36:07.860 --> 0:36:09.259
<v Speaker 3>out your team in those first couple weeks.

0:36:09.660 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 5>Brian, are you amazed to see, and you mentioned it

0:36:12.140 --> 0:36:15.219
<v Speaker 5>with Patrick Mahomes coming back from that knee injury. Colts,

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.969
<v Speaker 5>of course, have Daniel Jones recovering from the Achilles injury.

0:36:18.410 --> 0:36:22.980
<v Speaker 5>In all your years after you played, just what the

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:28.299
<v Speaker 5>doctors can do now and players returning much quicker than

0:36:28.340 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 5>they used to from significant injuries like ACLs or Achilles?

0:36:32.900 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm absolutely amazed. I saw Daniel Jones, like I said

0:36:36.300 --> 0:36:40.620
<v Speaker 3>a couple weeks ago, talk to him. These guys attack

0:36:40.660 --> 0:36:42.950
<v Speaker 3>rehab now. It's not maybe like it used to be,

0:36:43.030 --> 0:36:45.930
<v Speaker 3>but it's all day, every day.

0:36:46.370 --> 0:36:48.170
<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't... make.

0:36:48.030 --> 0:36:51.410
<v Speaker 3>The injury feel better. Sometimes, sometimes you need it to

0:36:51.469 --> 0:36:53.750
<v Speaker 3>rest a little bit, but I am amazed at seeing

0:36:53.790 --> 0:36:59.509
<v Speaker 3>those two quarterbacks move around and watch them practice. And like,

0:36:59.690 --> 0:37:03.650
<v Speaker 3>there's no giddy up. There's no, you know, nobody's limping. Nobody,

0:37:03.910 --> 0:37:06.350
<v Speaker 3>they all look like they're as good as new. So

0:37:06.410 --> 0:37:09.350
<v Speaker 3>I am amazed, completely amazed. And maybe my home's a

0:37:09.350 --> 0:37:12.230
<v Speaker 3>little bit more just because that was two major knee

0:37:12.290 --> 0:37:15.029
<v Speaker 3>ligaments that he had repaired. I talked to their trainers

0:37:15.110 --> 0:37:17.180
<v Speaker 3>in Kansas city about it and what he did, but yeah,

0:37:17.469 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Both quarterbacks look ready to go. Now, are the injuries

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:25.010
<v Speaker 3>completely healed? It looks like it, but who's to really say?

0:37:25.090 --> 0:37:28.970
<v Speaker 3>So I hope that they're healed and they're ready for

0:37:28.989 --> 0:37:29.730
<v Speaker 3>a 17-game schedule.

0:37:32.550 --> 0:37:37.150
<v Speaker 4>Brian Baldinger, who joins us, is the biggest difference in

0:37:37.450 --> 0:37:40.969
<v Speaker 4>what you witnessed with Daniel Jones while he's in New

0:37:41.030 --> 0:37:45.219
<v Speaker 4>York compared to just that portion of high-level football he

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 4>played for Shane Steichen with the Colts before that injury

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 4>last year? Is the biggest difference that of his relationship

0:37:52.860 --> 0:37:55.890
<v Speaker 4>and the coaching ability, offensively speaking, of Shane Steichen here?

0:37:56.469 --> 0:37:59.230
<v Speaker 3>I think it reflects well on Shane. He did similar

0:37:59.270 --> 0:38:05.469
<v Speaker 3>things in Philadelphia. He's an aggressive guy. He wants to

0:38:05.650 --> 0:38:09.100
<v Speaker 3>take his shots, and they did last year. They're going

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 3>to be without a really good player that went on

0:38:11.460 --> 0:38:14.779
<v Speaker 3>to Pittsburgh, but that's life in the NFL. Josh Downs

0:38:15.250 --> 0:38:18.190
<v Speaker 3>can step up. I think Ty Warren has a chance

0:38:18.250 --> 0:38:22.250
<v Speaker 3>for a really good season. But, but Shane is, he

0:38:22.290 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 3>knows how to protect and he knows how to attack defenses.

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 3>We saw even last week in a preseason game, I

0:38:27.780 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 3>saw that kid Coleman Cohen, Owen, that's a big 40

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.300
<v Speaker 3>yard pass down. And like the way that they attack

0:38:33.340 --> 0:38:37.419
<v Speaker 3>that defense in Atlanta. it's pretty good. That'd be tough

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.700
<v Speaker 3>to cover by just about anybody. And so he's going

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.089
<v Speaker 3>to get guys open. Can you anticipate the throw? Can

0:38:44.130 --> 0:38:47.650
<v Speaker 3>you make the throw? Can you complete a pass like

0:38:47.690 --> 0:38:50.870
<v Speaker 3>Riley did to Owen there for 40 yards? Can you

0:38:50.890 --> 0:38:53.569
<v Speaker 3>make the play when it's there? The plays I think

0:38:53.610 --> 0:38:53.989
<v Speaker 3>are going.

0:38:53.890 --> 0:38:54.310
<v Speaker 1>To be there.

0:38:55.050 --> 0:38:59.500
<v Speaker 3>How he got Ty Warren open, from the fullback position

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 3>into the flat sometimes last year. I feel like he's

0:39:03.380 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 3>a very creative play caller and designer.

0:39:05.820 --> 0:39:08.180
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned Michael Pittman Jr.

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.150
<v Speaker 4>Going to Pittsburgh, and with that they bring in Keenan Allen,

0:39:12.310 --> 0:39:13.969
<v Speaker 4>the veteran wide receiver.

0:39:14.989 --> 0:39:18.490
<v Speaker 1>As of last week, I'm curious your thoughts.

0:39:18.510 --> 0:39:21.549
<v Speaker 4>He normally rolls out of bed no matter what age

0:39:21.750 --> 0:39:24.950
<v Speaker 4>and produces to the level in which a team wants.

0:39:25.010 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Would you expect that?

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.419
<v Speaker 4>Him to be that firm results wise as a wide

0:39:29.460 --> 0:39:33.290
<v Speaker 4>receiver in Shane Steichen's offense this season Keenan.

0:39:33.130 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Has always been very quarterback friendly. He's a great route runner.

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:40.620
<v Speaker 3>Not everybody is. He knows how to, I think at

0:39:40.700 --> 0:39:44.010
<v Speaker 3>his age and the amount of games he's played, he's

0:39:44.050 --> 0:39:46.310
<v Speaker 3>probably best suited for the slot, which is where Josh

0:39:46.350 --> 0:39:48.810
<v Speaker 3>Downs is. But, you know, maybe they come up with

0:39:48.850 --> 0:39:52.250
<v Speaker 3>different packages right now. And he's excellent at beating them.

0:39:53.350 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 3>And that's been his specialty since he came into this league.

0:39:57.380 --> 0:39:59.779
<v Speaker 3>And for that, the way that he does it with

0:39:59.820 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 3>the type of routes that he runs that he's really

0:40:02.300 --> 0:40:05.950
<v Speaker 3>good at, it's quarterback friendly. He's going to get separation

0:40:05.989 --> 0:40:09.390
<v Speaker 3>from the defender. So I think there's a place for

0:40:09.430 --> 0:40:11.049
<v Speaker 3>him in this offense. I don't know that he can

0:40:11.090 --> 0:40:13.589
<v Speaker 3>do what Pitt did on the outside. I don't know

0:40:13.630 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 3>that he can run like that. But at the same time,

0:40:16.700 --> 0:40:21.420
<v Speaker 3>he is a guy that is a big receiver, and

0:40:21.620 --> 0:40:25.060
<v Speaker 3>he does win his one-on-ones. And so there's a place

0:40:25.100 --> 0:40:26.140
<v Speaker 3>for those guys in this league.

0:40:26.780 --> 0:40:30.130
<v Speaker 4>You referenced, too, Brian, Alec Pierce a little bit earlier,

0:40:30.150 --> 0:40:34.150
<v Speaker 4>coming back from an off-season surgery, but getting the high dollars,

0:40:34.210 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 4>the extension, and a lot of money. And prior to,

0:40:37.460 --> 0:40:41.500
<v Speaker 4>you know, as far as catching the football, especially getting

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.180
<v Speaker 4>down the field and doing that, he was really good.

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:48.140
<v Speaker 4>But now you have to become more of a well-rounded

0:40:48.570 --> 0:40:50.549
<v Speaker 4>wide receiver, and you're going to be the target, the

0:40:50.610 --> 0:40:53.109
<v Speaker 4>absolute target of everybody. How do you think once he

0:40:53.170 --> 0:40:56.790
<v Speaker 4>gets healthy and is back playing again, he responds to

0:40:57.010 --> 0:40:59.290
<v Speaker 4>all of that? And certainly more so than the money

0:40:59.330 --> 0:41:03.149
<v Speaker 4>and everything else, but the newfound bullseye that he's going

0:41:03.210 --> 0:41:06.489
<v Speaker 4>to have week after week with defenses trying to take

0:41:06.550 --> 0:41:07.710
<v Speaker 4>something away from him.

0:41:08.450 --> 0:41:11.370
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, he only caught 47 passes. Now, he

0:41:11.430 --> 0:41:14.770
<v Speaker 3>averaged over 20 yards a catch. That got him over 1,000.

0:41:14.770 --> 0:41:19.690
<v Speaker 3>He's a big play receiver. He's not a volume receiver.

0:41:19.770 --> 0:41:22.340
<v Speaker 3>You're not probably going to target him 12 times like

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 3>you would some other receivers in this league. You've got

0:41:25.219 --> 0:41:27.779
<v Speaker 3>to make the targets count. That's what they've done with him.

0:41:27.820 --> 0:41:30.260
<v Speaker 3>That's what they did with him last year. To your point,

0:41:31.380 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 3>when you've got the target on your back and you

0:41:33.020 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 3>get the money, you're going to get brackets. You're going

0:41:35.380 --> 0:41:37.620
<v Speaker 3>to get number one corners. You're going to get a

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:40.020
<v Speaker 3>lot of attention. And we got to see how he

0:41:40.060 --> 0:41:43.609
<v Speaker 3>handles it. Now, he's a guy that runs well, really well.

0:41:44.110 --> 0:41:46.030
<v Speaker 3>And so we got to see how he handles that attention.

0:41:46.070 --> 0:41:49.330
<v Speaker 3>Not everybody does. But he also is the guy that

0:41:49.870 --> 0:41:53.060
<v Speaker 3>doesn't get targeted a lot. in a lot of games,

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't seem to bother him. He'll, he'll catch the

0:41:56.100 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 3>one for 30 and take the top off the defense

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.620
<v Speaker 3>and be maybe content with two catches, but a big touchdown,

0:42:01.660 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a big play that flips field position, whatever. That's kind

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.549
<v Speaker 3>of the type of guy he's been. So I think

0:42:07.590 --> 0:42:09.270
<v Speaker 3>it's still going to go to a lot of other players,

0:42:09.790 --> 0:42:12.290
<v Speaker 3>but you know, when, when they need the chunks, like

0:42:12.350 --> 0:42:14.770
<v Speaker 3>that's the, that's going to be the guy that we're

0:42:14.810 --> 0:42:16.890
<v Speaker 3>going to go to and we'll see how he handles

0:42:16.910 --> 0:42:17.790
<v Speaker 3>the attention that he gets.

0:42:19.140 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 4>You referenced, too, both Jacksonville and Houston within the AFC South, Brian.

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:28.180
<v Speaker 4>And one is with Houston, the defense, which can be dominant.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.260
<v Speaker 4>But now there's some questions surrounding C.J.

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Stroud. Your thoughts on the Texans quarterback?

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.550
<v Speaker 4>And then, again, are we going to see another move

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.390
<v Speaker 4>toward even more results with Trevor Lawrence in year number two,

0:42:40.469 --> 0:42:43.049
<v Speaker 4>which seemed to work out incredibly well for him and

0:42:43.110 --> 0:42:45.149
<v Speaker 4>that Jacksonville offense under Liam Cohen?

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, look, Houston is the best defense in football,

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.180
<v Speaker 3>and they just brought a number one pick in a

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:56.540
<v Speaker 3>defense attack, and it's pretty good. There's no answer for

0:42:57.219 --> 0:42:59.549
<v Speaker 3>Will Anderson Jr. and the way he plays the game,

0:43:00.050 --> 0:43:02.930
<v Speaker 3>the way that D'Amico calls the game. It's aggressive.

0:43:03.510 --> 0:43:04.390
<v Speaker 1>Now, C.J.

0:43:04.650 --> 0:43:06.330
<v Speaker 3>Is going to be as good as the guys around him,

0:43:06.489 --> 0:43:10.090
<v Speaker 3>and that's true of most quarterbacks. They fired the offensive coordinator,

0:43:10.130 --> 0:43:12.910
<v Speaker 3>offensive line coaches twice since he's been there. They got

0:43:12.950 --> 0:43:15.589
<v Speaker 3>the same group now coming back this year. They let

0:43:15.910 --> 0:43:18.590
<v Speaker 3>one of the best left tackles in football go, Laramie Tunsil.

0:43:19.390 --> 0:43:22.090
<v Speaker 3>If you replace him with a rookie tackle, no quarterback

0:43:22.150 --> 0:43:24.779
<v Speaker 3>is going to be better being replaced by a rookie

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 3>tackle and letting Laramie Tunsil go. So I'm defending CJ

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.580
<v Speaker 3>because it's not really fair. And they ran the ball

0:43:31.739 --> 0:43:35.180
<v Speaker 3>in a playoff loss to New England. They ran the

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.540
<v Speaker 3>ball for all of 42 yards. He's not going to

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:40.020
<v Speaker 3>be better if they can run the ball for 42 yards.

0:43:41.190 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 3>So they need to get better. They need the running

0:43:43.540 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 3>game to be better for CJ to be better for Jacksonville.

0:43:47.010 --> 0:43:50.270
<v Speaker 3>That was quite a turnaround. And that, That coach Campanile,

0:43:50.290 --> 0:43:53.790
<v Speaker 3>that coach defense, they were awful the year before. They

0:43:53.830 --> 0:43:56.049
<v Speaker 3>let guys run free all over the field every week.

0:43:56.090 --> 0:43:59.009
<v Speaker 3>It was embarrassing. This Campanile is a good coach, and

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>they really fix things all the way through defensively. They

0:44:03.700 --> 0:44:06.859
<v Speaker 3>lost Travis Etienne, which was a big part of their

0:44:06.900 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 3>offense last year. They drafted two running backs last year,

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.620
<v Speaker 3>Bashaun Tootin, who they're going to ask to really step

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.740
<v Speaker 3>up this year. But honestly, they got better when they

0:44:16.780 --> 0:44:20.210
<v Speaker 3>traded for Jacoby Myers. And, you know, they started going

0:44:20.250 --> 0:44:22.730
<v Speaker 3>away from Brian Thomas. And, you know, they went to,

0:44:22.750 --> 0:44:27.049
<v Speaker 3>you know, different guys like Parker Washington. And both those

0:44:27.090 --> 0:44:31.500
<v Speaker 3>guys were difficult to stop. And the quarterback played the

0:44:31.540 --> 0:44:35.379
<v Speaker 3>best he's ever played. I love Liam Cohen and what

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 3>he has done to that team. I don't know if

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.259
<v Speaker 3>they're going to win 13 games, but when you can

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:44.140
<v Speaker 3>go into Denver and put up 30 on that defense

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.739
<v Speaker 3>last year like they did, that team was for real.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 4>All right, one final thing with Brian Baldinger with us. Again,

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.989
<v Speaker 4>Brian Baldinger, NFL Network. He does a variety of things,

0:44:54.010 --> 0:44:57.190
<v Speaker 4>and you can see videos as well at Baldy NFL

0:44:57.210 --> 0:44:58.470
<v Speaker 4>of him breaking down everything.

0:44:58.489 --> 0:44:59.130
<v Speaker 1>You had video.

0:45:00.100 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Going back to end of the weekend of Harrison Butker

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:09.029
<v Speaker 4>hitting from 69. Obviously doesn't count because it's the preseason.

0:45:09.050 --> 0:45:10.630
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to play off my friend.

0:45:10.469 --> 0:45:13.890
<v Speaker 4>Kristen Aries question about, you know, the evolution of medicine

0:45:13.989 --> 0:45:17.690
<v Speaker 4>and getting players like Daniel Jones back and playing again

0:45:17.750 --> 0:45:21.390
<v Speaker 4>as quickly as it has now. Is that more surprising

0:45:21.530 --> 0:45:24.460
<v Speaker 4>or is it the leg strength and the accuracy of

0:45:24.500 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 4>the modern day NFL place kicker in what we're seeing?

0:45:31.450 --> 0:45:33.850
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, you just had a kicker go to

0:45:33.890 --> 0:45:37.070
<v Speaker 3>the Hall of Fame, and, you know, he couldn't. You

0:45:37.090 --> 0:45:40.370
<v Speaker 3>would never put him out there and kick a 69-yard

0:45:40.410 --> 0:45:42.790
<v Speaker 3>field goal. I mean, it's changed. You get to midfield now.

0:45:42.810 --> 0:45:45.969
<v Speaker 3>There's kickers out there in Dallas, in Kansas City. You know,

0:45:46.010 --> 0:45:50.970
<v Speaker 3>you could get points. It's completely changed the game. And so,

0:45:51.230 --> 0:45:52.950
<v Speaker 3>you know, it used to be if it was fourth

0:45:53.010 --> 0:45:55.129
<v Speaker 3>and sixth at the 50, you were trying to put

0:45:55.150 --> 0:45:58.219
<v Speaker 3>the ball inside the 15-yard line. Now you're kicking off

0:45:58.300 --> 0:46:01.720
<v Speaker 3>and you're getting three points. So it's changed. It's changed

0:46:02.060 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 3>an awful lot. And those times with Bill Belichick, even

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<v Speaker 3>with great kickers, never attempted. He went a year without

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<v Speaker 3>attempting a 50-yard field goal. It was better to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>go play field position. Well, that's changed now. And the

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<v Speaker 3>punters aren't much different. I was talking to McAfee just

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks ago about it. He goes, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no such thing as out kicking your coverage, get better

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<v Speaker 3>coverage guys, kick the damn ball as far as you

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<v Speaker 3>can kick it. You know, that's, that was Pat's message

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<v Speaker 3>to me. And it's, he's right. Like these guys are

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<v Speaker 3>putting the ball in the air, 16, 70 yards right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's, it, you can flip field position, the pot game.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get points on almost like if you get

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<v Speaker 3>the ball at the 30 yard line, you get the

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<v Speaker 3>ball to midfield with a buck or, you know, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you come away with three points, get one

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<v Speaker 3>first down.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Brian, in closing here, how does that change coaching

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<v Speaker 4>philosophies around the NFL with kickers and punters with that

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<v Speaker 4>in mind?

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<v Speaker 3>It changes a lot. I mean, just look what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on in Denver right now. I mean, Davis Webb is

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<v Speaker 3>calling plays, and Sean Payton is one of the great

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<v Speaker 3>play callers. But in a playoff loss to Buffalo, he decided,

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<v Speaker 3>with a backup quarterback, it was better to go for

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<v Speaker 3>it on fourth and one rather than take the points,

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<v Speaker 3>the field goal. You know, the weather came in, changed everything. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>it changes a lot. It changes how you think about

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<v Speaker 3>fourth downs. It changes what you think about on third

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<v Speaker 3>down and 10 yards from the 50. And maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>just play for the field goal or not. Or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you stay on the field because you don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that can do that. So it brings a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more coaching decisions into play with what's going on right

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<v Speaker 3>now and what these kickers can do and punchers can do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Brian Baldinger with us. I want people to track down, Al,

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<v Speaker 4>you do so much in breaking down nearly everything. How

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.450
<v Speaker 4>can they track you down and where are we going

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<v Speaker 4>to see you next?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm on ESPN now. I'm at ESPN, so I

0:48:00.739 --> 0:48:02.239
<v Speaker 3>signed a new deal with them. So I'll be on

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of their shows. And all these breakdowns will

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<v Speaker 3>be front and center after every game all year long.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you can follow me on all the social

0:48:12.430 --> 0:48:15.430
<v Speaker 3>media platforms at Baldy NFL. And I'll still pop up

0:48:15.510 --> 0:48:17.250
<v Speaker 3>on the NFL Network doing some things as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we always have to end on your time here

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<v Speaker 1>in Indy.

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<v Speaker 4>How was that for you, looking back on that? Because

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<v Speaker 4>we're a part of an effort right now, Hoosiers helping

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<v Speaker 4>Hoosiers with the floods of last week.

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<v Speaker 1>How was your time spent here in Indy back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day?

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<v Speaker 3>I say God bless America and Indianapolis four straight years

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<v Speaker 3>in a row. I love playing there. I love the community.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge college basketball fan. I got to see

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Knight and IU were down there at Alumni Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just dated a girl who was a

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<v Speaker 3>cheerleader at Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I loved... Living in.

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<v Speaker 3>The state of Indiana, I thought, man, what a great

0:48:54.940 --> 0:48:59.439
<v Speaker 3>place to raise kids, raise families. I love race month,

0:48:59.460 --> 0:49:01.980
<v Speaker 3>the month of May. I can't say enough good things.

0:49:02.020 --> 0:49:04.280
<v Speaker 3>I love the new airport in Indiana. I love being

0:49:04.300 --> 0:49:06.830
<v Speaker 3>downtown in that city. I can't say enough good things

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<v Speaker 3>about the state of Indiana and the city of Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Baldinger, the former Colts player. Check him out on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a variety of platforms, ESPN, socials, and even more.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Before the season officially gets started on the Andy Moore

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<v Speaker 4>Automotive Group hotline. Brian, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thank

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<v Speaker 4>you for hopping on here today. We shall do it

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<v Speaker 4>again once things are real during the NFL season.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get to that place of real football, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't get there fast enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it, pal. Thank you. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. You bet, guys. See you, man.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Baldinger on the Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline right there.