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Speaker 1: and that means for Bill Brooks, Regstraw and the rest

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Speaker 1: will be taking your calls and breaking it down. Late

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Speaker 1: after tonight's game between the San Francisco forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: in football, Bill Brooks, joining me, Bill, how are you

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas?

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I am doing well.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, And you know I keep going back, Bill

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Speaker 1: between with this game tonight. There's a magic about Mondeynt football,

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Speaker 1: and you hear me mention it every time I talk

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Speaker 1: you know I always go back to that. It reawakens

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Speaker 1: the kid and me when you have moneynet football. But

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Speaker 1: this particular matchup tonight comes with great intrigue because I

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Speaker 1: still control of their own destiny, do they realistically Bill,

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Speaker 1: Are they realistically still a potential playoff run team?

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Speaker 2: Yes they are. I mean they still have a chance.

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Speaker 2: right now for the Coat, But they still have an opportunity,

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Speaker 2: and that's what you want. You want opportunity as a player.

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Speaker 2: You just want an opportunity to have a chance to

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Speaker 2: and play well. They're playing against a good, good football

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Speaker 2: they're playing to position themselves and in the playoff, playoff

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Speaker 2: see what happens. But I think, you know, we're getting

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Speaker 2: see what happens come Monday night, but it should be exciting.

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Speaker 2: As you talked about earlier, this is the only game

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Speaker 2: to me as exciting as a player, it was always

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Speaker 2: And uh, it'll be nice to see everyone downtown and

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Speaker 4: Bill.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier, Bill Brooks, my guest job a

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Speaker 1: house peeling, poor guest line. I know that the Colts

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Speaker 1: And we take aside the result. It's a results league.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 1: Did Shane Steiken coach his best game of the year

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Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to say, you know what game

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Speaker 2: they kind of slowed down that thel Seahawks offense and

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Speaker 2: do that, you figure, hey, you know what, you have

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Speaker 2: a shot to win the football game. And then having

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Speaker 2: So hopefully hopefully put some more points on the board

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Speaker 2: good game plan to go in and get a Seattle

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Speaker 1: Bill, Do you believe that Philip Rivers from what you saw?

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Speaker 1: And you know, look, you've you've taken passes from a

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like or did you see indication that

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Speaker 1: with more practice time this week there might be a

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Speaker 2: Well, I think when you look at Philip Rivers, you

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Speaker 2: So I think he can get the ball downfield some,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think that was ever his game. But

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Speaker 2: they're going to have to find ways to get more

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Speaker 1: I want to hypothetically here. Okay, Santa arrives at the

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Speaker 1: you've been a good boy, and so I'm going to

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Speaker 1: a Colts fan. So he says, Bill, I have the

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Speaker 1: that is most confusing to Bill Brooks or most concerning

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Speaker 1: to Bill Brooks, and I Santa, I'm going to immediately

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Speaker 1: bolster that. And you can't say health from a schematic

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Speaker 1: What is the one thing that Bill Brooks would want

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Speaker 1: Santa to take care of that would be a difference

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a that's a good question. I can I

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Speaker 2: can't say, Hell Tom.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if we could just get a Daniel

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Speaker 1: I know that he was starting to revert a little bit,

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Speaker 4: Obviously exactly he did.

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Speaker 2: I would say, more pressure in a quarterback and crucial situations.

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Speaker 2: if they want to send corners, can even more off

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Speaker 2: the slide or whatever. This legacy a little bit more

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Speaker 2: pressure on a quarterback, especially in a crucial situation, especially

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Speaker 2: to make an errand throw something of that nature. That

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Speaker 2: that would be my choice if I had an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to ask Sannah for a birthday or there's a birthday

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you get Because the Colts have tried bill

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Speaker 1: you know the Colts have tried to get pass rush forever,

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Speaker 1: and DeForest Muckner is an elite level player, and Leatu

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Speaker 1: you know, how long do you go into a play

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Speaker 2: Definitely, you definitely can get that. I mean it can

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Speaker 2: But a lot of times what happens is if the

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Speaker 2: The receivers wide open, so it kind of works hand

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Speaker 4: Who is the toughest corner you faced?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, there was. There was a number of guys that

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Speaker 2: me see you had Mini Field and Dixon, Uh, Private

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Speaker 1: As a receiver, Bill Bill Brooks, my guest Joba House

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Speaker 1: We have very limited body of work to see as

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Speaker 2: I'm not that I'm an all pro or was a

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Speaker 2: He can do both.

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Speaker 1: Do you Bill, when you go out, Bill Brooks my guest,

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Speaker 4: Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: When you hear the theme, when you see the intro,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 2: that happened. So this exciting time and for it to

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Speaker 2: be of course, we still bring Indiana Night the Colts

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Speaker 1: You know what I said, Bill, they got to do

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Nights while they're still the last team in

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Speaker 1: Indiana before the Bears come in. Right, it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not gonna it's all about power play.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but no, listen, I look forward to

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Speaker 1: it tonight. It's gonna be a lot of fun and

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Speaker 1: then we'll be listening afterwards. Certainly appreciate the time today

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Speaker 1: and get yourself a Java house getting ready for a

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Speaker 4: Thank you well, It's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be a fun night. That's why I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to a fun night. If it's long that's fine. Long

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Speaker 2: it'll be a good night.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Bill, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 4: All right, Bill Brooks joining me.

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Speaker 1: Well, where again at that time of year where basketball

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Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and Port guest line. Don the

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Speaker 1: last one tonight, six o'clock tonight for the basketball side

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Speaker 1: of things. That game can be heard on our sister station, WBC.

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Speaker 1: It is Indiana and Sienna. This is the last battle

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Speaker 1: And we got into this a little bit last week.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think more than anything right now, they're still

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Speaker 5: of the reasons they haven't they're an undersized basketball team

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Speaker 5: this juncture. This is a team still that's not one

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Speaker 5: But I think rebounding is the biggest area of concern

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Speaker 5: By when you don't you can't change your. Roster, now

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Speaker 1: Done i'll tell you what's to me comes intriguing is you,

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Speaker 5: PLAY i don't think they've got a lot of flexibility

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Speaker 5: Does they do rely on three point shooting a great.

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Speaker 5: Deal that's how this roster was. Constructed Darren debrees wanted

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Speaker 5: Obviously his Son tucker's very. Good Lamar wilkerson has a

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Speaker 5: Play and if you looked at the game Against Chicago

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Speaker 4: Throw it in the.

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00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 5: Ocean they were one of twenty from the three point.

440
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 5: Line and then they relied on their bigs because the

441
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 5: team that they went up, Against Chicago, state didn't have

442
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 5: a great deal of strength in the front. Line so

443
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 5: they were able to succumb or to Make Chicago states

444
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 5: to come to their wishes in that contest Because Chicago

445
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 5: state just didn't have any size.

446
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: Themselves Don fisher is my guest voice of The Indiana,

447
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: hoosiers both on the basketball and football side of. Things

448
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: he's on The Java House peel and poor guest. Line Don,

449
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: here here's WHAT i know About Don. Fisher, OKAY i

450
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: know obviously that you have a great love For Indiana

451
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: athletics and, you it is not lost on you the

452
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: privilege of being their radio player by. Playboice, OKAY i

453
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: know that we've talked about it. Before you, know you

454
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: grew up as a. KID i think you liked baseball as.

455
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 1: Well but you also have a great amount of like

456
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 1: patriotism about. You and in addition to, THAT i think of,

457
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: you you, know as a family values. Guy right going

458
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: and watching your son's high school football team and being

459
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: around family is very important To Don. Fisher So i'm

460
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: going to, assume maybe assumptions are, Dangerous i'm going to

461
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: assume That.

462
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: Christmas is a special.

463
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: Holiday like for most of, Us christmas is particularly special

464
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: To Don.

465
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 4: Fisher, fact fact is.

466
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 5: Fact there's no doubt it's very special to. Us susie

467
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 5: AND i host two days Of christmas at our. House

468
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 5: the first day Is christmas Eve, day in which my family.

469
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 5: Comes the second day is her family and they join

470
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 5: us For christmas Side Christmas. Day so we have so

471
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 5: much fun on these two. Days but my wife works

472
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 5: her rear end. Off she obviously has a full time

473
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 5: gig with The Indiana, pacers as you, know so she

474
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 5: gets a ton of. Work she has a ton of.

475
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 5: WORKLOAD i try to help her as much AS i.

476
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 5: Can if you put me in charge of anything cooking,

477
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 5: wise you're dead in the. Water SO i have to

478
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 5: do WHAT i have to, do which whether that's you,

479
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 5: know clean up, afterwards take care of dishes or what

480
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 5: are those kinds of, things just keeping all the grandkids

481
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 5: out of, everything then that's my. Job but she does

482
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 5: most of, it and she's phenomenal abed.

483
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: Well she keeps for those that don't, know she keeps

484
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: The pacers franchise tied up as, well just in organizing

485
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: like virtually everything.

486
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 4: Right so so.

487
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: The holiday, thing you, know for the, Crew i'm glad

488
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: she's able to do. That with the family that would

489
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: be she would be the perfect person to put that

490
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: all on because it's just the automatic. Nature but the

491
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: REASON i asked it About, Christmas don is BECAUSE i

492
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: would imagine That Don fisher is still in the spirit Of,

493
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: christmas you, know thinks About santa and what he wants From.

494
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: Santa and and it's been a long time since you

495
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: since you've been able to, say On, Christmas, SANTA i

496
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: Want indiana to Beat alabama and football in a.

497
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: Week it's like you know WHAT i, Mean but here's the. Matchup,

498
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: now we know the.

499
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: Matchup, now just first, off your overall thoughts on this

500
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: matchup With alabama and did you get a chance to

501
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: Watch Alabama?

502
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: OKLAHOMA i.

503
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 5: Did the thing that surprised me about those two teams

504
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 5: in that ball game was the number of mistakes that were.

505
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 5: MADE i was kind of stunned by. THAT i thought

506
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 5: both of them would come in there ready for. Bear

507
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 5: they hadn't had the long spell off Like indiana's having

508
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 5: right now to get ready for the ball, game and

509
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 5: they played each other. BEFORE i was just kind of

510
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 5: surprised by the number of mistakes that both those teams

511
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 5: made in that. Contest BUT i was rooting That alabama

512
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 5: would win BECAUSE i felt like that's the opponent THAT

513
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 5: i want TO i want to see our football team play.

514
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: Against they are the icon of THE. Sec everyone knows

515
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 5: they've struggled a little bit here in the last couple of.

516
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 5: YEARS i Think caylen De, boor who's their, coach is

517
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 5: a guy WHO i revere as a guy that came

518
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 5: To indiana for the twenty twenty season as the offensive.

519
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 5: Coordinator he got ruined BY, covid but it didn't Ruin

520
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 5: indiana season because they went six and through that, year

521
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 5: and it was Because caitlin De boer was such a

522
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 5: good innovator from an offensive, standpoint and of course he

523
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 5: had control Of Michael, pennix who went with him To

524
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 5: washington later, on and obviously they went to The National championship.

525
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: Game SO i just have a lot of respect For

526
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 5: calen De. BOER i Love Kane, wamick who's their defensive.

527
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 5: Coordinator he was also here in that twenty twenty year

528
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 5: With Tom allen and was great at devising the defenses

529
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 5: For indiana in that. Period so there are a lot of.

530
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 5: Impact Nick, SHERIDAN i, think also is another guy that's

531
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 5: went the program down there FROM. Iu he was a

532
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 5: quarterbacks coach at the same. Time so this is a

533
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 5: staff that we know from a personal, standpoint AND i

534
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 5: just wanted to Play. Alabama there are a number of,

535
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 5: reasons but not the least of which is the fact

536
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 5: THAT i just want to see If indiana can knock

537
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 5: them off and then Have paul feinebomb shut.

538
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: Up we'll do whatever it takes for the ladder, there, Right,

539
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: yeah don you mentioned. Something it's it's funny because. Tonight

540
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: Philip rivers for, example you, know quarterback and The colts

541
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: and coming back To, indianapolis and yet it's not like

542
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: we really got to know. Him And i'm using air quotes, there,

543
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: well because he was here during THAT covid season and

544
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: everything was just so weird, then, right in terms of

545
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: contact and how much you could be around people and

546
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: zoom calls and everything. Else the coaches of which you,

547
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: mentioned did you get a chance to know them much

548
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: or did all of those factors kind of come in

549
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: where you were aware of them but you didn't get

550
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: a lot of interaction with.

551
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 5: Them, well we had decent interaction with them, because let's face,

552
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 5: it there were no crowds to worry. About there were

553
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 5: nobody was coming to games except for. Parents we had

554
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 5: a chance to get out to watch practices and things

555
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 5: like that because everything was so shut down at the

556
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 5: time and you were looking for ways to get outside

557
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 5: and do. Things and so we did have a chance

558
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: to Watch indiana football a little bit closer maybe than

559
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: we would, otherwise and get to know some of these

560
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 5: guys a little bit better in a very short period of. Time, so,

561
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: yeah those guys were really good. PEOPLE i like. Them a.

562
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 5: LOT i think they've taken over This alabama program and

563
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: struggled just a, hair but it's Still, alabama as everybody.

564
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 5: Knows AND i just look forward to seeing these guys

565
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 5: and shaking their hand and congratulating them on making the,

566
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 5: playoffs just Like indiana.

567
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: Has do you have concerned on or intrigue maybe is

568
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: the better word about the layoff from An indiana, Standpoint

569
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: not because Of, indiana but if you, look you know

570
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: by president a year, ago what happened to the teams

571
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: that had time? Off it did not go well in

572
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: the college football. Playoff how do you Think indiana handles that?

573
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: Well the REASON i think they can handle it is

574
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 5: because their coach Is Kurt. Signetti he just doesn't let

575
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 5: things go by the, wayside OR i, mean their practices

576
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 5: have been light at this point in time of, year

577
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 5: so he's given these guys a lot of time to

578
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 5: get healed, up to get the bumps and bruises and

579
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 5: scrapes and all those kinds of things healed. Over but

580
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 5: at the same, time he works his team and when

581
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 5: they get out, there they may not go, long but

582
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 5: they go hard when they get on the football. Field

583
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 5: AND i just HAVE. A i know he knows how

584
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: to handle this to some, degree Although i'm not sure

585
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 5: anybody's ever had a three and a half week layoff

586
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: before their first game after finishing out a regular, Season

587
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 5: so from that perspective it is. Different it concerns, EVERYBODY

588
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 5: i think a little, bit but of all the people

589
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: THAT i think can handle, IT i Think kurtzing that

590
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 5: he can don For.

591
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Christmas aside from An indiana win Over, Alabama i'm going

592
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: to Ask santa to give me an ability to pitch

593
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: and chip from forty yards in ONCE i get to

594
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: the cup in golf That consanta deliver that kind of a.

595
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: Miracle UNFORTUNATELY i doubt, it and if he, could that

596
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 5: would be the first THING i would ask, for even

597
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 5: over a win Over. Alabama point because it structures into my. LIFE.

598
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: A hecro a lot more, difficult as you, know.

599
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Fair, Enough, well don, listen you, KNOW i know obviously

600
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: you are, busy and it certainly gives This dog And

601
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Pony show a credibility each and every week when we

602
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: can have you, on your status as a legendary broadcaster

603
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Within indiana is. Cemented and so just for a little

604
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: part of that cement to come onto this show and

605
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: give us some credibility is always. Appreciated so with, THAT

606
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: i hope the absolute best for you your family on

607
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: both sides On Christmas eve And christmas and the absolute

608
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: warmest and most Rewarding christmas for.

609
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 5: You, WELL i appreciate, That. Jake it's very nice of

610
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 5: you to, say AND i just want to wish everybody

611
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 5: a Merry, christmas in a Happy New, year and a Go.

612
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: Hoosiers that's, Right Don, fisher the voice of The who's

613
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it On Mike, CHAPLIN cbs four and wxin box fifty,

614
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: nine Chap let's begin with this from the standpoint of

615
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: the health issue for The, colts those that are in

616
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: and those that are. Out is there any anything new

617
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: that might be surprising the people as to who is

618
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: going to work their way in or who was still held?

619
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: Out no other than The colts announced the activated or

620
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: they added The Forrest bucker to the active, roster which

621
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: is a big. Deal and they're still gonna be Without

622
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: Mooney ward And Sauce. Gardner And i'm telling, You i'm

623
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: telling you IF i had the choice between The Forest

624
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: buckner And Sauce gardner as far as, IMPORTANCE i take

625
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: The Forest. Buckner i'll just Have buck in the lineup

626
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: THAT i would one of those. Corners he's that good

627
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: and he's that as close to irreplaceable on, defense shoot

628
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: on the team as you can. Get he comes, Back

629
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: Bernie ryman's not. Playing we'll see what they do on

630
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: the offensive. Line so that's the main, thing Is bucks,

631
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: back and it gives them a much better chance to

632
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: play decent.

633
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: Defense So ryman is, back though correct with the malbo

634
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: he is.

635
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: Out he said he's.

636
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: Out he practiced, limited, okay whatever the day the wee

637
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: from Best, saturday but they ruled him. Out he's he's not. Playing.

638
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: Uh it's so they're gonna have to mix a match

639
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: on the offensive, line and it comes against the team

640
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: that's got sixteen, facts which is the worst in the

641
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: league by a handful of. Sacks so hopefully they'll be

642
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: able to Protect rivers and let him play the position

643
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: better than they did the first.

644
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Game chapter you anticipate over the course of the, week

645
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Did shane stiken tip his hand in any way in this?

646
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Area MEANING i actually, thought and Maybe i'm in the minority,

647
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: HERE i Thought Shane stikeen in That seattle game might

648
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: have turned in his best coaching performance of the, year because,

649
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: YES i realized they did not win that, game but

650
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: given all of the variables of going into the quarterback,

651
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: playing et, CETERA i thought he called a very smart

652
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: game for feeling it out and getting a feel for

653
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: what they had In Philip rivers and keeping them in.

654
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: Contention does did we see everything that that relationship has

655
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: to offer or do you Think stikeen has more in the?

656
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 4: Bag did? He did he tip his hand in any

657
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: way on?

658
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: That, well there needs to be More, first AND i

659
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: put on social media after the game THAT i had

660
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: got stike And andrino through almost the perfect. Game you're

661
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: ahead sixteen to fifteen with forty seconds to go and

662
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: the other teams on their thirty seven no, TIMEOUTS i

663
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: mean with and again taking into account all your personnel,

664
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: limitations and there were, plenty SO i, thought, yes they

665
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: squeezed every ounce out of what they could. Do it's

666
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: just in the induance wasn't, enough you, know a not

667
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: a good enough kickoff after the field. Goal and then

668
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: two plays That Sam dartle made that if you stop

669
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: either one have been, bounds you probably win the. Game

670
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: SO i thought considering, Everything, yes it was his best,

671
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: game but there's got to be. More it's just you.

672
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: Can't and they know. That they you, know that was

673
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: so specific to, well he's been here three days and

674
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: you know he hasn't played for five. Years they really

675
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: had to have a dumbed down game. Plan they just.

676
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: Did and but having said, that it's got to be

677
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: there's got to be. More he averaged four point four

678
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: yards and an attempt like six yards of, completion and

679
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: all that does when you've got to run the ball

680
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: With Jonathan, taylor all that does is make it harder

681
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: to run the ball With john jon And. Taylor so

682
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: you've got you've got you, Know Alex, pears who leads

683
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 3: the league in yards for. Catch you've got to stretch

684
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: the field some at least at least pose the, threat

685
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: WHICH i think they. Will but they're still Gonna they

686
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 3: ran more than they threw last week by a. FEW

687
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: i think they still run more this. Week they have.

688
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: To but and this is A niners, defense that's that's

689
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: gettable that they're they're not strong against the. Run and

690
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: again the pass rush should be not super bad with

691
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: perhaps you know not not perhaps the two backup. Tackles but,

692
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: yes and and and we've talked To shane enough to

693
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: know that there has to be. MORE i Think rivers

694
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: will be. More you, know this was a normal week

695
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: For Philip rivers to where you come, in you get

696
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: all these days for. Pared last week was not. Normal

697
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: r he comes, in he's. Cramming so, yes there there

698
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: needs to be, more AND i think there there will be.

699
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: More did you see did you See Ann rivers chap

700
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: more that could be?

701
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 4: There in other, words did you know WHAT i?

702
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: Mean, LIKE i understand that they had to kind of

703
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: simple it down because of exactly, that, right you're just

704
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: throwing it out. There but but now that he's had that,

705
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: week and now that maybe they can ent you, know

706
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: look at more, film go over some. Differ do you

707
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: feel that from a physical standpoint or a skill set

708
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: standpoint in twenty twenty five that there is more there

709
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: that can tap into With Philip?

710
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: Rivers? Boy and if it's a yes or, No i'd say.

711
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: NO i mean it's the same. Guy it's the same

712
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: forty four year old Arm maybe he recognizes things, quicker

713
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: but as far as getting the ball from POINT a

714
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: to POINT b quicker with more. VELOCITY i think getting it,

715
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: there quicker would be recognizing the. Play, QUICKER i don't

716
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: think all of a sudden he's going to start throwing

717
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 3: lasers all over the. Field AND i just, that's first

718
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: of that's not who he was when he, played you,

719
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: know at the right. Age so that that but that's

720
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: a that's a great. Question and you can devise all

721
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: the game plans you, want and if the quarterback can't carry,

722
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: that can't make the. Throw if you, can't you can

723
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: block it up to where you've got time to get

724
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: the ball sixty yards fifty yards downfield the. Piers but

725
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: the quarterback back can't do, it then what are you?

726
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: Doing that's a really good. Point we'll find. OUT i

727
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: think that whether he can or, not they're going to.

728
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: Try they need to. Try but that's we're going to

729
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: see one another. Week and, again maybe part of it

730
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: with the throwing is that his legs weren't under him

731
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: as they shouldn't have been as far you, know the

732
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: quarterbacks need their legs to throw off of and really

733
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: push off. Of and maybe he's a lot better this,

734
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: week but they simply have To they've got to do

735
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: more than they did him throwing for one hundred and

736
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 3: twenty yards isn't going to cut. It it's NOT jt

737
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: averaging six three point six might be okay running the

738
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: ball if you're getting overrom the past, game that'll be

739
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: a really interesting thing to Watch. Sniders one one will

740
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: they try? It and? Two Can rivers do it?

741
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: Well AND i, thought you, know obviously they went with

742
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: a Mere abdullah out of the backfield with the passing,

743
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: game which IS i would assume that part of that

744
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: was just to Allow rivers kind of the comfort, level

745
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: the familiarity with the.

746
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: Layups do we? Continue do you believe to See abdullah

747
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 4: at that?

748
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: LEVEL i think, so because, again you, know IF jt

749
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: runs about twenty five, times you, know AND i realized

750
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: he's he prepares for this and all, this but at

751
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: some point you do need to give him a. Breather

752
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: And abdullah is a better receiver out of the. Backuld

753
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: he simply.

754
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 4: Is and that's.

755
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: It And rivers has always had a guy like, that,

756
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: Right he's always had a bailout out of backfield, Guy Darren.

757
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: SPROLES i, mean, goodness. Crations how many times did he

758
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 3: Tormented colts With? Rivers so, yeah no question. Again if

759
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: there's thirty rushes again this, week twenty five need to BE.

760
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: Jt but Get abdulla involved the past game and hit

761
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: those underneath crossers and then you, know but you gotta

762
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: get eybody more. Involved Tyler warren has disappeared in the

763
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: last three or four, games and that's not a reflection on.

764
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: Him it's a reflection on the rest of or how

765
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: the quarterback play has has declined with the injuries To

766
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: jones and Then rivers coming. In they've got to get

767
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: back to the players who carry, them who have carried,

768
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: them which IS jt And Tyler warren for the most.

769
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 3: Part hopefully they. Can they can scratch into that tonight

770
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: because they're Gonna you. Can't you can't win, sixteen, eighteen,

771
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: nineteen but they're one six this. Year when they don't

772
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: when they score twenty or, fewer and they've lost. IT

773
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: i THINK i looked it. Up they've lost eleven straight

774
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: and twenty four twenty seven when they don't score more than.

775
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: Twenty so in TODAY'S, nfl And i'm telling you that

776
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: The niners are going to score twenty. Points they just.

777
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: Are so you got to score and hopefully they. Can

778
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: they can get the quarterback first in the position to do,

779
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: that and then he's able to execute the game.

780
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: Plan Chap here's a question That Mike chapel's my GUEST

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Speaker 1: cbs FOUR wxa On fox fifty nine where you see.

782
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Speaker 1: java house dot com is the website For They're Fabulous Instant,

784
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Speaker 1: Coffee Liquid science and energy. Products Chap here's a question

785
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: that typically there is a more slam dunk answer at

786
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: this point in the, Year But i'm going to ask

787
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: it and then think about it and give me an.

788
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: Answer you're, ready. Yep who's the best team in THE?

789
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: NFL rams think?

790
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: So? HUH i think? So, YEAH i still HAVE i

791
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: lost the other. NIGHT i think they're pretty dark on.

792
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: Good AND i tell, you If Matthew stafford wins AN,

793
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: mvp which he probably will probably and gets to The

794
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: Super bowl wins another, one he will be a Slam

795
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: Dunk hall Of. Famer he's probably there. Anyway BUT i

796
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: think he's been one of the more underappreciated players over

797
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 3: the course of his career because he, was you, know

798
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: dying In. Detroit. YEAH i think they're pretty.

799
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: Good, yeah they and you, know.

800
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: There are only a handful of teams that you would

801
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: say this about or quarterbacks that you would say this

802
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: about right. Now but the thing about The rams is

803
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: that game you're talking, about which the other night was

804
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: one of the one of the best regular season games

805
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: you're going to see in THE.

806
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: Nfl it was fabulous With.

807
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: Seattle But stafford is one of those that you give

808
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: him The when that guy trots out on the field

809
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: and you look at his eyes inside of the last two,

810
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: minutes you, go, yeah good.

811
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: Luck you know WHAT i.

812
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: MEAN i mean he seems very very dialed, in and

813
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: offensively they are very well, balanced and then defensively they

814
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: got some, pieces Right.

815
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah that's why you look AT acnc in THE AC

816
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: i look At buffalo and their. DEFENSE i don't trust

817
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: that defense at. ALL i do. Not BUT i Trust Josh.

818
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: ALLEN i just he's gonna if you let him hang,

819
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: around he's going to beach in the fourth. Quarter he

820
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: just is with all with all the, deficiencies and he

821
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have doesn't have great, weapons but he's got a

822
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: really good running game With, cook who who right now

823
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: is the head OF jt in the. League rushing of,

824
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 3: course he's got the extra, game BUT i like those

825
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: two right. Now everybody else has got, significant significant question.

826
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: Marks it seems Like. Seattle there are times in games

827
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: Where Sam darnald you, Think, god that's The Sam darnald we,

828
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: Know and then he's got a fourth quarter where he

829
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: drags him back and he beats The, rams WHO i

830
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: think is the best. Team so, yeah it's really interesting

831
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: the year this year In New. ENGLAND i sort of

832
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: want to believe in, him and, well they had a

833
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: great game, yesterday BUT i JUST i don't totally trust

834
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: the young. QUARTERBACK i don't.

835
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: Know, yeah Looks chuffalo and The rams right.

836
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: Now New england's a fascinating. One and this is going

837
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: to segue to another Team i'm talking about because it

838
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: does tie into The. Colts Mike, chapel my. Guest New

839
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: england's interesting because there's nothing about them that jumps out at,

840
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: you that alarms. You AND i don't know how many

841
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: people really have paid attention To New, england but watching

842
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: them last, Night New england did something for the first

843
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: time since The colts bye, week and that is they

844
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: delivered a result that The colts needed for The colts playoff.

845
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: Push here right because they.

846
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Were every other game has gone against the way The

847
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: colts needed it to. Go they Needed baltimore to lose last,

848
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: night And baltimore. Did BUT i, Thought Drake, may it's

849
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: been a long time Since i've sat and watched a

850
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 1: game like that and seen a player THAT i, thought

851
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, WHAT i don't know Where i've, been but

852
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: this guy looks to, me he looked like he has

853
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: taken a next step in pocket presence and poise and

854
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: just knowing when to, run when to throw it, away et.

855
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: Cetera he looks really good to.

856
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 3: Me Chap, well he's think he's like leading the league

857
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: in completion, percentage and you see. It the ball is,

858
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: There it's where it needs to, be in the right.

859
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: Spot he's got just enough talent around. Him the running

860
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: game is pretty. Good the running game can be can

861
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: be pretty dominant if they want it to. Be but

862
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: they've got you got tight, ends they got receivers making.

863
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: Plays the defense is pretty. Good they're probably maybe a

864
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: year ahead of schedule on maybe where people thought they

865
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: might be with. Everything but you don't win that many

866
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: games and put yourself in that position to win the

867
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: division just by, luck by falling into. It so, yeah

868
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: they're pretty. GOOD i still Like buffalo because of the.

869
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: QUARTERBACK i just. Do he's got that Extra he's that

870
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: guy again Like. Peyton you were playing the clip earlier

871
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: with The tampa game WHERE i made it a. Point

872
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: i've got a disc A cd of that, game And

873
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 3: i'll pull up it in every every so. Often and

874
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: with with like five minutes to, play it's already five to.

875
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: Fourteen you cannot win that. Game yet they. Did so

876
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: that quarterback gives you the. Chance and the guys we've talked,

877
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: about those quarterbacks give me my, Chance.

878
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: Chap when you look at THE afc right, now the

879
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: guy THAT i you talk, About Peyton manning and you

880
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: And i've discussed this And i've said it on the

881
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: radio one thousand. Times the player THAT i was convinced

882
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: was A Peyton manning era apparent Is Trevor lawrence when

883
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: he came.

884
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: OUT i watched him every snap in.

885
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: College the, size the, poise the ball, placement all of it,

886
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Right AND i know that you, know you have the

887
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: Erbin meyer experiment and all, that and there's been a

888
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: lot of more bumps than road at. All The LATIN

889
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: i don't knock on. WOOD i guess for The colts

890
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: fans is a bad. Thing the last five, weeks no

891
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: one is talking about the fact that it seems to

892
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: have come together For Trevor lawrence and he is playing

893
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: at a very high. Level and don't look, NOW i

894
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: haven't heard anybody mentioned, this But jacksonville now has taken

895
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: over THE Afc south and very quietly and off radar

896
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: is you, know they're firmly in control and maybe even

897
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: to put themselves in placement for THE. Afc but my

898
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: question for, You Mike, chappel is this is this a

899
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: mirage or Has jacksonville finally gone through?

900
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: Puberty i've been through. This how many times have we

901
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: have we Been? Jacksonville, yes right, By and it's a.

902
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: Fact it's, like, oh you know back in six years. Ago,

903
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: no it's been like three or four times where you, think,

904
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: man they finally got it. Together and even With Trevor,

905
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: lawrence you, think, man this is who everyone thought he would.

906
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: Be you, know he's past The Urban meyer. Nightmare and but,

907
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: no you're right right. NOW i, mean there's probably good

908
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: as bad as anybody for the number one. SEED i

909
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: Just i've just been burned too many times by The,

910
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 3: jaguars and having said, that they they're probably a play

911
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: as well as. Anybody it's just that nobody outside of

912
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: jag outside Of New, ball wants to believe in, them

913
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: and they've given you too many reasons to not believe in.

914
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: Them and all they're going to do is say we don't,

915
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: care and they're taking care of business. Again The colts

916
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 3: had a firm grip on the division until the second

917
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: half of the, season and right now The jaggs are

918
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: taking care of their second half of the. Season so,

919
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: YEAH i won't be surprised if they're the number one.

920
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: SEED i won't be surprised if they slip and they're

921
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 3: playing in the last week of the season to win

922
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: the division because, something you, know they mucked something up.

923
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: And that MUCKs up that up could be. That who,

924
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: knows can The, colts you, know do The colts get?

925
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: THEM i, mean it's going to be a must win

926
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: chap one in with, this you, KNOW i, mean you

927
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: AND i have talked about this a thousand. Times the

928
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: special element Of monday night football And Monday night football

929
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: be you, know being in town and the strobe lights

930
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: and the spotlights on your city and the aerial shots

931
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: of downtown and all of, it and the buzz and

932
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: the energy of all of.

933
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: It and maybe it's Because i'm.

934
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: Older maybe it's because The colts certainty of their future

935
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: is in flux and we don't know where they go

936
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: from here and if they're going to make the playoffs

937
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: and et. Cetera and the year has gone south on

938
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: them a little. Bit and maybe it's Because Monday night

939
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: football just in, general you now have primetime games all the, time?

940
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Right is there less gust of wind in the sales

941
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: for A monday night? MATCHUP a because this is a

942
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: city that has built itself up from AN nfl, standpoint

943
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: and we have seen the mountaintop so many times that

944
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: now it's old hat or b because of the THINGS

945
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: i just mentioned of viewership is just different than it

946
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: used to. Be or See, jake you're out of your.

947
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Mind it's just as big a deal as it was

948
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: in eighty.

949
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: SEVEN i think it's IT'S i think it's nearly as

950
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: big of a deal because, again you're, You're, You're you're

951
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: the only game. ON i realized you can say that

952
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 3: About thursday, night but that's totally. Different, NO i still

953
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: think there's that BUZZ i, do. Uh and part of

954
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: that is Why i'm ingrained is all the times that

955
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: The colts were On Monday night during that great two.

956
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 3: Thousand it's a couple of times a year and great

957
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: games and special. Games you, know they've but they've they've.

958
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: LOST i think they've lost four or five in a

959
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: row On Monday, night and some of them haven't been very.

960
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: Attractive but, still and this is WHERE i think you

961
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: AND i, agree but a lot of the fan base may,

962
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 3: not is is the value that the community value of

963
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: Having Monday night with all the cut, up you, know

964
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: the lead ins and breakouts of the, broadcast with with

965
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: with sites From. Indianapolis The chamber Of commerce can't pay

966
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: for that kind of advertisement in, Visibility SO i think it's.

967
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: COOL i still think it's a big. DEAL i think

968
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: it's still as, big maybe not as big of a,

969
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: deal but but but nothing is as big as it

970
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: used to, be just because there's so much. MORE i

971
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: think if you go back and look at viewership and

972
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: all That Monday night still near the. TOP i do

973
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 3: sometimes it. Doesn't most of the, times it doesn't matter

974
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: who's playing unless you got two really really crappy teams

975
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: and then maybe people watch something. Else BUT i think

976
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: it's a big. Deal i've always enjoyed it back at

977
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: The paper when we actually had serious. DEADLINES i, mean

978
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: you had to have your story done at a certain.

979
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: Time monday night games where a painter are. In The

980
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: tampa game was horrific in one regard because it went so,

981
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: long but it made you really work your tail, off

982
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 3: and all of us at the start put out a

983
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: great product the next day in a historic. GAME i

984
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 3: still think it's got that buzz to. It AND i

985
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: hope again We're i'm not involved with The. Coles we cover,

986
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: them but we're not. INVOLVED i hope they play well

987
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: and find a way to, win just because it would

988
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: do something for the. Franchise it's right now stuck in

989
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: a bad way for a lot of. Reasons and, again

990
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: like you, said we'll see where this goes in the.

991
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: Offseason but this is the, CHANCE i, guess a pretty

992
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 3: dog on Good niners team to sort of, say, yeah

993
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: we've been through some tough, things but we've still got

994
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: what it takes in that one, game and then course

995
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: you play this and then you got to play Next.

996
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 3: Sunday you get To. Jacksonville but it's a big. DEAL

997
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: i hope the col fries to.

998
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: It you, Know, CHAP i always remember you mentioned that

999
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: the deadlines of That monday night game With, tampa and,

1000
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: yeah we're talking about a twenty plus old. Game you,

1001
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: know that game will live forever in this. Town but you,

1002
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: KNOW i was working back At channel six And Dave

1003
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: first was down In, tampa And i'll never. Forget you,

1004
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: know it's thirty five to. Fourteen the highlights were, cut

1005
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: it was ON, abc it was on our, air we

1006
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: had a postgame, show and by the time it got

1007
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: to maybe twenty one and the culture driving And. Dave

1008
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: this was the early years of texting as. Well dave

1009
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: sends me a Text it's, like do we need to

1010
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: maybe start redoing the highlights here for the postgame?

1011
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: Show And i'm, LIKE i. Don't let's see what.

1012
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: Happens and then, boom you, Know bashir gets the on

1013
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: side and all of a, sudden it's, like holy cow

1014
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: man and. Everyone, Chap i'm telling you right, now it's

1015
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: just like they, say there were two million people that

1016
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: Saw Wilt chamberlain score one hundred points in that game

1017
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: In Hershey. Pennsylvania, right there were literally every person In.

1018
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: INDIANAPOLIS i kidding. Not there were twelve people that saw

1019
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: that live because the number of people the next day

1020
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: that emailed the, station, right can you replay the fourth quarter?

1021
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 4: PLEASE i went to. Bed it was. Unbelievable but we'll

1022
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: see what happens. Tonight peyton.

1023
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: Said he got voicemails the next day and, oh so

1024
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: you guys got beat last night and all this is

1025
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: and it was. Funny just a side, note the agreed

1026
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 3: for she recovering that onside.

1027
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: Kick that was.

1028
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: Illegal THE nfl came back at you, know because it

1029
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: didn't hit the ground so the other team's got a

1030
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: chance to fare catch. It And Rasier cartas was an

1031
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 3: illegal play that helped Come.

1032
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: So that's very.

1033
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: Beautiful that is. Beauty and then and then you get

1034
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: the leaping. CALL i, mean what in the.

1035
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: World, yeah he Didn't simmey And rice sign here a

1036
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: few years later when he when he couldn't play any.

1037
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: Longer but, yeah it was pretty. Amaze and In Vanner

1038
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: jackson game winning, Kick Rick corchet is off the goal.

1039
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: POST i Remember simmy And rice when he signed here

1040
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: and he was made available and the first THING i.

1041
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: SAID i was, like what exactly is? Leaping and he's,

1042
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: like come, on, man come. On he wasn't here very,

1043
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: long but he's a good. Dude chap appreciate.

1044
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 5: It.

1045
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Man we'll see you down there. Tonight be will all,

1046
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: Right Mike chapel joining us