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Speaker 1: former Colts quarterback that I think can relate and identify

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Speaker 1: to that. We'll do that conversation coming up one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: But when we come back, Indianapoli star Kyle Nedderrip next

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Speaker 1: on a Friday. You know it took a second when

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Speaker 1: that started. I couldn't remember what song this was, and

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Speaker 1: I said, Eddie, what is this? And he said, all

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Speaker 1: the Lights with Kanye, and I'm like, yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: it's Friday night Lights. And then I realized that I

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Speaker 1: felt completely clueless by asking exactly that.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of lost and clueless, So we bring on Kyle

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Speaker 3: Neddrip from the end of Star.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly correct, Kyle Nedrip joining us now from the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star. He will have all of your high school

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Speaker 1: football coverage tonight. Kyle, how are you doing well?

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Speaker 4: How are you Jake?

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Speaker 1: You know, man, I love it, and I'll tell you this.

447
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Speaker 1: It always takes me a couple of weeks to really

448
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Speaker 1: kick into gear in terms of my thought process of

449
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: high school football because when it's really hot out, it

450
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like football season, right, and then obviously we're

451
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Speaker 1: kind of in that transitional period. But tonight looks like, honest,

452
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Speaker 1: no matter where you live, no matter where you live,

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Speaker 1: if you have a free night tonight and you've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of bucks in your pocket and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: take many of them, you should go out to a

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Speaker 1: high school football game because the weather tonight is going

457
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Speaker 1: to be absolutely perfect and there's some big games, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And we've been lucky this year. I think

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Speaker 3: last week was probably the hottest week we've had on

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Speaker 3: a Friday night, and it wasn't It was a little

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Speaker 3: steam even not terrible, but usually you know, those first

462
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Speaker 3: couple weeks are can be pretty brutal. So it's been

463
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Speaker 3: a good knocking on wood here but a great weather

464
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Speaker 3: season so far. So and another one on like you

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Speaker 3: said on tap for tonight, yeah we've got I'm gonna

466
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Speaker 3: be at Decatur Central. The Hawks play Playfield, which is

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Speaker 3: Plainfield is number three in five A and feed it

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Speaker 3: up to this point. So that's a big mid state game.

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Speaker 3: Brownsburg and Westfield the rematch of the state finals last

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Speaker 3: year in six A up at Westfield tonight. That'll be

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Speaker 3: a really good one. And then Indian Creek is at

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Speaker 3: Try West and Try West as Jack Sorgie who is

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Speaker 3: coming into Louisville, and I think that'll be a potential

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Speaker 3: for a really good game as well. But those are

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Speaker 3: those are just a few. There's a lot of good

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Speaker 3: ones tonight on the on the schedule as we get

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Speaker 3: ever closer to the sectional draw.

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Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks, which is hard to believe

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Speaker 1: right that we're closer and closer to that, But let

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Speaker 1: me let's let's begin with this. You know, the Colts,

481
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Speaker 1: for example, are three and oho. Okay, And you know,

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Speaker 1: last night I'm watching Seattle, Seattle goes to three and one.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that's kind of a surprise. I don't

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Speaker 1: like people thought Seattle would be where they are at

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Speaker 1: this point in the year. From a high school football standpoint,

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Speaker 1: tip the cap for me, if you could kyle to

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Speaker 1: a school that when you look at what they've done

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Speaker 1: so far, you say to yourself, you know what, give

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Speaker 1: them credit. I don't know how long this will last,

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Speaker 1: but they're off to a good start and they probably

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Speaker 1: have exceeded expectation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think by this point in the year

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Speaker 3: you have pretty good sample size of what that team's about,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I think there are a few of

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Speaker 3: those out there, you know. And one, you know, one

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Speaker 3: we've talked about is Carmel. I don't know that you

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Speaker 3: can put them in a surprise category necessarily, but I

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Speaker 3: think they had just the way they've played so far

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Speaker 3: and how they have you know, come out. You know,

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Speaker 3: they won three games last year. You know, that's the

501
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Speaker 3: reasons for that. There were you know, injuries and you know,

502
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Speaker 3: probably games that they could have won didn't but man,

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Speaker 3: I mean to see them kind of hit the ground running.

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Speaker 3: Their only losses to Louisville Trinity, which is not ranked

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Speaker 3: number one in Kentucky in six A, so you know

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Speaker 3: they're team I think that you know, may fit that

507
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Speaker 3: you know fit that mold.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: Another one I would say, in my opinion, if you're

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Speaker 3: tipping your cap to somebody, is definitely Pelton Heights there.

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Speaker 3: You know, I know they lost last week the new

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Speaker 3: pal That loss doesn't you know mean Andy, it's not

513
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Speaker 3: going to meaning thing towards their tournament success necessarily. But

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Speaker 3: you know, they're four and one. They were a six

515
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Speaker 3: and sixteen last year, and you know, I think they're

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Speaker 3: going to be a team to watch. And maybe he's

517
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Speaker 3: flying a little bit under the radar, right, Yeah, they

518
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Speaker 3: play Mount Vernon. Mount Vernon's having a tough season so far.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know that that'll be a you

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Speaker 3: know that that's may not be a blowout type game

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Speaker 3: necessarily though, because Mount Vernon does have you know, talented

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Speaker 3: players also. But I think that's you know, the job

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Speaker 3: Jed Richmond's done there this year and and really throughout

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Speaker 3: his tenure, they've had some good teams you know, throughout

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Speaker 3: his tenure there. But this could be a team they

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Speaker 3: haven't been to a you know, they haven't won a

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Speaker 3: sectional since twenty eleven. I think this is a team

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Speaker 3: maybe you know, you're looking at who they play in

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Speaker 3: the sectional, who they potentially could play, and there's definitely

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Speaker 3: a path for them to get through their Yorktown's good.

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Speaker 3: You know, Greenfield Central is still still a tough team.

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Speaker 3: You know, Beach Grove has had some good wins early

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Speaker 3: in the year. But I think that's a team that

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe we're not talking about enough or you

535
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Speaker 3: know that maybe uh just flying a little bit under

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Speaker 3: the radar. And again they lost pretty badly to New

537
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Speaker 3: Pal last week. But but everyone's doing that, you know,

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Speaker 3: this year. So but I would I would say them,

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Speaker 3: you know, a couple of Indian Creeks another one they're

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Speaker 3: four and one Lapal may fit that and also Avon

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Speaker 3: I think too that you know, the start that they've

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Speaker 3: got off to maybe another one who probably fits that category.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned New Pal by the way they are at

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Speaker 1: Greenfield Central tonight. You know, a lot of big games

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Speaker 1: around the area of Noblesville, Franklin Central. We mentioned Carmel

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Speaker 1: and North Central. I'm curious of this, Kyle, and I

547
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Speaker 1: know that we have discussed with you before, and so

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Speaker 1: I apologize for asking this again. I believe you told

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Speaker 1: me this is season sixteen or seventeen. For you, I'm

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Speaker 1: going off the top of my head, is that right?

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Speaker 3: I actually think it's eighteen, though for me, yeah, I

552
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Speaker 3: have to actually do the math on that.

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Speaker 1: The next time I ask, it'll be nineteen because I'm

554
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: always like, here are too short. But the reason I

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Speaker 1: ask it I'm curious of this, And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: necessarily in terms of the passion for it, because I

557
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: think that's been there all the way through, but stylistically speaking,

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Speaker 1: or even just in quality of play from the time

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Speaker 1: that you arrived in Indiana now working through the nearly

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Speaker 1: two decades of covering high school football, how has high

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Speaker 1: school football in Central Indiana grown or changed in the

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Speaker 1: time that you've been here?

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Speaker 3: To be honest, the biggest change that I've seen in

564
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Speaker 3: my time is the talent, probably at the skill position,

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Speaker 3: not that there wasn't that before, but it's I think

566
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: it's used differently now because more of the five A,

567
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: six A and even the smaller schools are for ominily

568
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: running you know, shotguns, spread offenses, and you know that's

569
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Speaker 3: not something even when I first started here, you know

570
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Speaker 3: that that that was necessarily the case. You know, there's

571
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Speaker 3: some teams that did it, and it kind of became

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Speaker 3: more you know, popularized by what the college game was doing,

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Speaker 3: which I think translates more to you know, what high

574
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Speaker 3: schools do than the NFL does for sure, And the

575
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Speaker 3: NFL has even gone to to more of that in

576
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Speaker 3: recent years. So I think that's to me, that's the

577
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Speaker 3: biggest difference. And now you will see and I will

578
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Speaker 3: I'll have a story coming on a kid next week

579
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Speaker 3: from a school that kind of kind of is more

580
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Speaker 3: old school in their approach, and it was fun to

581
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Speaker 3: go watch them. I won't say who it is yet,

582
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: just to but it was fun to go watch them

583
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Speaker 3: practice just because it was more of an old school

584
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Speaker 3: style of game. But but I think just the you know,

585
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Speaker 3: in the off season stuff and what the quarterbacks do,

586
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Speaker 3: the quarterback play is just it's really a high level

587
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Speaker 3: even when you come into high school. Now, I think

588
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Speaker 3: it's almost expected of you, where I don't know that

589
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Speaker 3: that was poys the case or you know, has been

590
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Speaker 3: the case. But I think there's just a lot of

591
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Speaker 3: things done. And you know, the good thing about football,

592
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Speaker 3: you know, in my opinion, is there's you know, you

593
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Speaker 3: can't necessarily play year round football, you know, so you

594
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Speaker 3: do have some offseason, you do have some you know,

595
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: most football coaches will support, you know, their kids playing

596
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: another sport. A lot of times that's track, which fits

597
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: well with football or wrestling, you know, maybe both. So

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00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: you know, I think that's a good thing about football.

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Speaker 3: But also you do see I think the skill position

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00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: players doing other things that maybe have them. And also

601
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: you can practice more now too in the in the

602
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: off season with your high school. So I think just

603
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: the overall skill level of the quarterbacks, the skill position players,

604
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: and just the predominance and the defenses are better too.

605
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Speaker 3: So it's harder just to line up with then I

606
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: formation and run unless you're just so dominant that you

607
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: can do that than it used to be. So there's

608
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Speaker 3: a lot of I think, a lot more tacticle things

609
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Speaker 3: that are different. And also just the you know, the

610
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Speaker 3: skill of the players I think is just better than

611
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Speaker 3: it used to be.

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Speaker 1: Kyle, when you look around the area. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, Okay, I do think that that has

614
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Speaker 1: become a more cerebral position. It's always required to be

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00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: a cerebral position, right, but I think it's become more

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Speaker 1: understanding and more in vogue for players at a younger

617
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Speaker 1: age to be able to look at defenses and process

618
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Speaker 1: and no playbooks and you know the things that you see,

619
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Speaker 1: the Mannings and the Brady's. I think that influence has

620
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: trickled down now to the high school level, where by

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Speaker 1: the time a kid's playing as a varsity player, he

622
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Speaker 1: has known those are the things, those are the skills

623
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Speaker 1: that he's going to have to master. So with that

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Speaker 1: all said, can you give me a quarterback in the area,

625
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Speaker 1: At no disrespect to others, but a player that when

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Speaker 1: you watched him, you just said to yourself, that's a

627
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: guy that just looks like he was he was born

628
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Speaker 1: to be a quarterback. He's got the size, he clearly

629
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Speaker 1: can process, he's he has shown a comfort level in

630
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Speaker 1: the pocket and just an understanding. Any of them from

631
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Speaker 1: around the area that jump out at you when I

632
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: when I use that disclaimer, well.

633
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Speaker 3: When you say it that way, there's one for sure,

634
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Speaker 3: and he's the quarterback of Brownsburg. Oscar Fry who was

635
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Speaker 3: you know, he was the starter last year that he

636
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: did share time a little bit with Goo Suis Stevens,

637
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Speaker 3: but he he was kind of the guy as a

638
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: sophomore even and now watching him as a junior last

639
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: week was the first time I've seen Brownsburg play in

640
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: person this year. And you know, they ran the ball

641
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: really well against Fishers. But I just did the and

642
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: he even had this last year as a sophomore, but

643
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: even more so now. But his his awareness, his ability

644
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: to you know, to to read what's about to happen

645
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Speaker 3: to you know, hey, we need to hurry up and

646
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Speaker 3: get this playoff before the quarter and he's in top

647
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: he's on top of it. You know, just those sorts

648
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: of things that you know, those are things that you

649
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: watch on you know, Saturdays and Sundays that that most quarterbacks,

650
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: because they're in that position, should handle that stuff really well.

651
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: You don't always see that at high school or you

652
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: don't see you know, coaches maybe give their quarterback always

653
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 3: you know, they won't put too much on their plate

654
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: obviously as a high school kid.

655
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 5: But he's the.

656
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: One that I think he's just really cerebral. He's physically

657
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: talented too, I mean, he's got Division one offers and

658
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: you know he's only a junior. But yeah, he's one

659
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: that you know, because I just saw him play, and

660
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 3: just because I think he's that way anyway, his footwork

661
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: and stuff, and he moves around the pocket. He's not

662
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 3: he's not a super mobile quarterback, but he's just really

663
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: you know, kind of the way you described that, he

664
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: really fits that bill, I think. And yeah, he looks

665
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: like he's been and when you talk to him, it's

666
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: another thing. He really comes off like he's been an

667
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: NFL quarterback. And when you talk to him, he's just very,

668
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: very polished, very you know, respectful of his teammates and

669
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: the opponents and those sorts of things. So I think

670
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: he's one that definitely fits that category.

671
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: By the way, one of the schools that I mentioned

672
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: each and every week when we have on Kyle Needripp

673
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: from the Indian PILs, it's our Crystal House tonight taking

674
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: on short Ridge. This is a battle of two teams.

675
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: The last two years, I believe that we have kind

676
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: of talked up on this particular radio show.

677
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: Kyle Yeah, short Ridge coach by Ron Walls now and

678
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 3: if you remember he used to coach at the Heritage

679
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: Christian and he's had obviously a lot of success overall

680
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 3: in his career. But you know, in Shortridge, I say,

681
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: while we're talking about they have a running back named

682
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: Thomas Campbell. Had a really good year last year. He's

683
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: off to a really good start again this year and

684
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: they've got back to back wins and now so building

685
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: up a little bit of a momentum. And they'll play

686
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: after they played Crystal House this week, they play Addicts

687
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 3: next week, and we covered Adicts' game last week. They're

688
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: very talented teams, so you know that could be a

689
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: game to highlight next week. Shortridge and Addicts, Kyle.

690
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: As we approached the halfway point of the high school

691
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: football season, I know, leading up to the start of

692
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: the athletic calendar year, the I say votes on different rules,

693
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: they instituted the one time trains for rule. Have Now

694
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: that the high school football seasons coming to a close

695
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 2: rapidly quickly, have you been able to talk to any coaches,

696
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: athletic trainers, or any the school officials on what to

697
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: expect Because I would assume that most of these student

698
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: athletes that you will see enter the quote unquote transfer

699
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: portal are going to be for your big time sports,

700
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: mainly basketball and football.

701
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've we've there's a lot of We

702
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: did a coaches confidential before the season where he kind

703
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: of we're able to give coaches, you know, confidential, they

704
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: can say what they want, We're not going to name them.

705
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: And that was one of the topics we brought up.

706
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: Was the transfer, the one time transfer. Uh, you know,

707
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: I do think there are good restrictions in place. You know,

708
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: there's been some you know, this senior class kind of

709
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: gets in the cott in the middle of it all.

710
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: You know, they're they're you know, they weren't able to

711
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: really utilize this new change because they're seniors. So there's

712
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: been some I think some you know, frustration over that

713
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: part of it. But I think as we move forward, uh,

714
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: it's it's actually gonna be a little bit more black

715
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: and white than the old rule was, hopefully, you know,

716
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: as people kind of understand it better and what you're

717
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: allowed to and not allowed to do, you know. And

718
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: the good thing I think is, you know, it's a

719
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: one time transfer, you know, so if you're transferring multiple times,

720
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: it kind of reverts back to the old rules. So

721
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: you're not, you know, able to just kind of bounce

722
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: here and there, depending on what the circumstances are in

723
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: your life. I think there's some there's some you know,

724
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: lessening of restrictions based on what exactly the scenario is

725
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 3: for that individual. But but yeah, I mean, I think

726
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: everybody's still kind of wrapping their arms around it a

727
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: little bit or understanding what exactly it is. But we

728
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: have seen, you know, as you go through some of

729
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: these teams, like you know, and a lot of it

730
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: is younger kids as freshmen sophomores who move so they're

731
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: not even you know, sometimes even on our radar that

732
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: much yet they may not even played varsity sports, and

733
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: they may be going to a smaller school from a

734
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: bigger school they weren't playing. So there's been some of

735
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: that too. So it's hard to hard to know exactly

736
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: how it's been so so early still in that process.

737
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: So but I think we'll, you know, it's definitely gonna

738
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: be a factor. And I think as you know, I

739
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: think as people kind of understand what it is a

740
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: little bit more now, you know, we'll we'll, I don't

741
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: know if we'll see more of it, but I think

742
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: it will definitely be part of uh, you know, definitely

743
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: just part of the experience.

744
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Now, Coaches Confidential sounds like a show I would have

745
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: tried to catch late night on HBO back in the

746
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: day's worth, you know what I mean.

747
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had some great we had some great answers

748
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: on that actually, and a lot of you know, the

749
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: problem I think is that, you know, there's a lot

750
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: of things that you know, kunt is, undue influence or

751
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: recruiting that you're not allowed to do. And I think

752
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: people at first maybe thought, well, yeah, we can now

753
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: recruit players. Well you can't. You can't just go out

754
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: and recruit players from another team. That's still not legal. So, uh,

755
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: there are some uh you know that that's some of

756
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: the issues that the coaches talked about.

757
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty gray, right, you know what I mean.

758
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, And I think you still need to have

759
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: those guard rails. You don't just want you know, you

760
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: don't just want coaches going out and you know, recruiting

761
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: your players too and making you promises and things like that.

762
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't think that's that's not what this was intended

763
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: to be.

764
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: So Decatur Central where you are tonight, correct.

765
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I'll be at the cat looking forward to it

766
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: and seeing I haven't seen either of these teams in

767
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: person yet, so looking forward to this game tonight. I

768
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be high scoring. Yeah, I think it'll be.

769
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 3: I think it'll be a fun game.

770
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Playing field and Decatur Central Ad DC, and be sure

771
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: look for the Eddie Garrison statue on your way in.

772
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: That's right, yes, exactly, you'll know the statue. It's the

773
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: one with forty six pounds of bronze in the head

774
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: area and then six gold chains. That's the statue that

775
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: Teddy Garrison. Kyle appreciate it as always.

776
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 6: Man.

777
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. All right, guys, Thank you, Kyle,

778
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: Ned and Rip joining us on the program. I mentioned

779
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: that perhaps the Pacers will look a little bit different

780
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: this year. We certainly know that from a standpoint of

781
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: the personnel, But what about the style. You can and

782
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: elaborated on that. We'll let you hear from the next

783
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really, honestly, I'm really fascinated by Daniel Jones.

784
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: I don't think it's overly surprising that a change of

785
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: scenery has just allowed him to really jumpstart himself here

786
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: and play at a very high level for the Colts

787
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: and smart player, you know, not turning the ball over

788
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: and making just all areas of a step of a

789
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: maturation that maybe he didn't have in New York or

790
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: was not facilitated for him in New York. And I

791
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: wanted to get deeper into why that is. And I thought,

792
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: who would who would be good at knowing that? And

793
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: I thought, what about somebody that started somewhere and didn't

794
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: get off to a great start, didn't find any consistency,

795
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: and then went to stop number two in their career

796
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: and immediately their numbers skyrocketed, and they found stability, and

797
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: they started winning games and then went to the playoffs.

798
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: And so I reached out to that former Colt and said, hey,

799
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: anyway we can examine this, and they said, yep, how

800
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: about one o'clock on Friday. So that conversation just a

801
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: couple minutes from now. But we talked about the Pacers

802
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: and getting set for their season. Chad Buchanan talked about

803
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: the fact that now without Halliburton and without Miles Churner,

804
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: clearly they are going to look a little bit different.

805
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: And yes, you would say that at times if you're

806
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: going to Matheren or say Jarris Walker. Maybe that slows

807
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: things down a little bit from time to time. The

808
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: question for Chad bu Canon was does that mean that

809
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: by design, with most possessions you're going to be a

810
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: more physical team or just on occasion, depending on a lineup.

811
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: Here's Chad bu Canon yesterday.

812
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 7: You're losing a ballhandler, obviously a primary ballhandler with Tyrese.

813
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 7: Now we'll be able to slide Drew over to do

814
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 7: some of that responsibility, and that creates minutes for other

815
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 7: players on our roster that maybe don't do some of

816
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 7: the same things that they're replacing. So, you know, Coach

817
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 7: Carlisle is a brilliant coach. He's a Hall of Fame coach.

818
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 7: You know, one of his strengths is taking what's given

819
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 7: to him and maximizing it. And I think you'll see

820
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 7: us play, like I said, a little more, probably a

821
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 7: little more physical style of game. You know, we'll have

822
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 7: the ball in the hands of some other players at

823
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 7: times where it was Drew Beifore. You know, now maybe

824
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 7: it's in Benedict, or maybe it's more in Pascal or

825
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 7: Aaron or Jerris Whover.

826
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: It might be.

827
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 7: There's the opportunity for guys to kind of establish themselves

828
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 7: of what they can do to help his team this year,

829
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 7: but also moving forward, We're always going to be looking

830
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 7: long term as well. But I think you know, the

831
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 7: thing you'll notice differently is probably we won't be playing

832
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 7: quite as fast, but will still be pushing the ball,

833
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 7: but it'll be a little more of a physical, probably

834
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 7: execution type team this year.

835
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Speaker 5: I alwins.

836
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: It's a huge surprise, and what that allows them to

837
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: do then is better probably assess an inventory, if you will,

838
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: how they can work Benedict Mather and Jarris Walker into

839
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: things and play a style that then becomes an additional

840
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: card in the deck, if you will. For Rick Carlile,

841
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: once you get Haliburton back and you go forward then

842
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: and I realized then we're talking eighteen months from now.

843
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: But interesting comments from him as well on Benedict mathern

844
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later in the program, but when

845
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: we come back, the rebirth of a quarterback from Stop

846
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: one to Stop two, a guy that went through it

847
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: himself and can shed some light on what Daniel Jones

848
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: might be thinking, is next. I don't know this. I

849
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: don't know this, but I suspect it. I suspect that

850
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: there was a time that this song was blaring out

851
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: of a tape deck on some car rolling into the

852
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: parking lot at Washington Square on the way to get

853
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: a hot Sam back in about nineteen eighty three or

854
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: eighty four, and Jeff George was driving listening to Journey

855
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: after Warren Central football practice and going getting getting himself

856
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: a pretzel before going home to watch Andy Griffith and

857
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Warren tape. That's my guess. He joins us now on

858
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: the program, the former Cult of Course Illinois and Warren

859
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: Central quarterback Jeff George joining us, Jeff, how are you good, Jake?

860
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: How you doing?

861
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm good? Is that Is that an accurate description by

862
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: the way that Journey might have played at Washington Square

863
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: back in the day.

864
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 8: I mean that's pretty accurate. You know me too well.

865
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 8: But I mean it's still to this day. I still

866
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 8: listen to that.

867
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were like, waitit, what are you talking about?

868
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: Back in Washington Square.

869
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: Back in the day. That's still happening.

870
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 8: I could go by there and wondering where it's at.

871
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 8: Where's Eastgate at? You know, it's Glendale. I miss all

872
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 8: those days going to hot stand how any that that

873
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 8: does bring back memories? And uh, what was that that

874
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 8: story you always went in and you you saw the

875
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 8: posters and you're going through.

876
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 4: The posters and oh, Spencer Giffs Spencer.

877
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were lucky, there was a heather locklayer

878
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: poster that just got least right. Those are the glory days. Hey, Joe, listen,

879
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, I appreciate the time coming on,

880
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, first and foremost before we get into because

881
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: there was a specific thing that I thought you'd be

882
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: able to add, you know, more than anybody in this

883
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: town actually an expertise on it. But I know you

884
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: watch football. I know you spend a lot of time

885
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: watching it. So let's begin with just simply your thoughts

886
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: so far on what you've seen from the Colts at

887
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: being at three and oh and what's jumped out at you.

888
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 8: Well, you know, obviously the main player that's jumped out

889
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 8: as Daniel Jones. You know that's you know, without his play,

890
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 8: without what he brings the to the offense and to

891
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 8: the team, the leadership, I'm not sure that they would

892
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 8: be there. Although I'm a big ar fan, I think

893
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 8: he's got you know, a lot of upside to him.

894
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 8: But in this system and this with this coaching staff,

895
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 8: with this type of offense, I think it's a perfect

896
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 8: fit for what Sticking and the Colts want to accomplish.

897
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: So I mean it's exciting.

898
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 8: Everybody's excited around here, especially with that for the Pacers

899
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 8: and all the success that they've had, and you know,

900
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 8: the city's hung gray to see the Colts be successful again,

901
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 8: and you know what a great start they're on. And

902
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 8: you know, I think it all begins with the quarterback play.

903
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, So let's go back to this. And I've

904
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: talked till I'm blue in the face about some of

905
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: the challenges that were presented to you when you were

906
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: drafted by the Colts, and you know, we don't need

907
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: to go over that. I think most people know that,

908
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: just in terms of different offensive coordinators and different players

909
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: you had around you and lack of protection. But you know,

910
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: in the four years that you were here, your highest

911
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: yardage passing was twenty nine hundred yards. Twenty nine hundred

912
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: and ten yards you had in a year. And then

913
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: you go to Atlanta and you take off, and you

914
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: go to Atlanta and you throw for thirty seven hundred

915
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: yards in year one, you go over four thousand yards

916
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: in year two, You combine for forty seven touchdowns in

917
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: those first two years. What was it, Jeff? And the

918
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: reason I ask is because what's fascinating to me is

919
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: to look at Daniel Jones and to say, Okay, maybe

920
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: he didn't get the footing that he needed in New York,

921
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: but clearly in Indianapolis so far, there is a comfort

922
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: level there and there is just maybe a lack of

923
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: pressure that allowed him to flourish. What was it about?

924
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: Just a new start for you or for any quarterback

925
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: that can be beneficial that allows you to really kind

926
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: of take off and spread your wings a little bit.

927
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: Well, I think the main thing is.

928
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 8: To find a situation, a team, a coaching staff that

929
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 8: believes in you. The type of system that they run

930
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 8: here fit's his style play. They give the quarterback a

931
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 8: lot of freedom at the line of scrimmage, and you

932
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 8: have to be smart enough to understand coverages, and you know,

933
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 8: you have to know your offense like the back of

934
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 8: your hand. You just have to be a coach uh

935
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 8: out there playing and what they allow him to do

936
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 8: is what he's probably been doing, especially when he was

937
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 8: back in college at Duke. I remember Washington playing college.

938
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 8: My oldest son played at Pitt at the time, and

939
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 8: it was a downpour rain and it was just miserable.

940
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 8: And uh, he comes out and he throws for four

941
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 8: four fifty I think, and four or five touchdowns. I

942
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 8: had a couple of rushing touchdowns. And at that time,

943
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 8: I remember telling my oldest son, uh, Jeff Junior, that

944
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 8: I go, this guy's pretty good. I mean, you're gonna

945
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 8: hear a lot from him. He's gonna be a you know,

946
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 8: first round pick. And uh, you know, I thought he

947
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 8: was great in college. So when the Giants picked him,

948
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 8: you know, I thought it was a great pick. But

949
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 8: a lot of times that that doesn't me and you're

950
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 8: gonna have great success at that team that picked you.

951
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 8: So like in my for me example, uh, coming to Indianapolis,

952
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 8: it was great to come back home, play in front

953
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 8: of family and friends and hometown and all that. But

954
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 8: was it the right fit for me at the time, No,

955
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 8: it wasn't. It would have been nice to be able

956
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 8: to maybe play in the league for four or five

957
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 8: years and have success and if it didn't work out

958
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 8: as a team, I was that before to come back

959
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 8: to Minnapolis when they were good, and uh, and you know,

960
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 8: finish my career out.

961
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 4: At that time.

962
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 8: But you know, you need a lot of luck and

963
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 8: a lot of you know, things just need to go

964
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 8: your way. And when he was in New York, it

965
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 8: just you know, with a new coach, coaches coming in

966
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 8: coming out and trying to replace you know, future Hall

967
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 8: of Famer and Eli having to deal with all that,

968
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 8: it was just it was just too much. And you know,

969
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 8: I'm not sure anybody would have went in that situation

970
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 8: and been successful. You know, he had a running back

971
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 8: at the time, sa Kwon Markley that was unhappy and

972
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 8: wanted out. And you know there's a reason why players

973
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 8: won out of a situation. Uh, you know, they know

974
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 8: it's not good. So when you have a franchise player

975
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 8: like your running back that is all world and he

976
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 8: wants that of New York, uh, you know, the there's

977
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 8: something to be said about that. So I just don't

978
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 8: think it was made for him to be very successful

979
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 8: in New York. And he just you know, he's fortunate

980
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 8: to be able to get out of there and get

981
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 8: a fresh start coming to Indianapolis. Media is not as

982
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 8: big as as it is there, and you know it's

983
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 8: he can just pretty much breathe and be himself and

984
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 8: be that same kind of player that he was at

985
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 8: college at Duke and and that's kind of what you're seeing.

986
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 8: He's running around making plays with his legs, he's showing

987
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 8: his athletic ability, he's smart, he's making checks at the

988
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage, he's got a strong arm. Teammates love him,

989
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 8: and you know, a guy like that, you know can't

990
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 8: help but be successful. So you know, I'm happy for

991
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 8: him as I've been there, like you said, and you

992
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 8: see guys like that, good people become successful, and you

993
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 8: can't help but be happy for him.

994
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: When when you go Jeff, Jeff George is our guest,

995
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: like for example, and I've always said this, Oftentimes, players

996
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: I think get unfairly judged based on how and where

997
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: they were acquired. So in other words, when you were

998
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and I say this only because again it's

999
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: kind of analogous to the situation that Daniel Jones maybe

1000
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: going through. There was so much pressure on you in

1001
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: Indianapolis because you were the number one player taking in

1002
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: the draft and obviously your background in the city itself.

1003
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: But when you went to Atlanta. Do you think that

1004
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: part of why you were able to really flourish was

1005
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: because just that microscope was off a little bit? And

1006
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: maybe Daniel Jones feels that same way, like you talked

1007
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: about of you know, there's a difference in terms of

1008
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: what was invested in Daniel Jones by Indianapolis, and therefore

1009
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that pressure bearing him down. That would

1010
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: be tough for anybody. Is there some truth to that?

1011
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 8: There's a lot of truth to that, and and and

1012
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 8: what he brings to It's not like he's, you know,

1013
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 8: a first second year guys. He's an experienced veteran that

1014
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 8: understands it's been through all the every situation you can

1015
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 8: go through as a quarterback, not just football, but off

1016
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 8: the field as well. You know, when you tend to

1017
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 8: when you don't have success early on, you you really

1018
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 8: tend to isolate yourself. You know, it's not just football.

1019
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 8: You you worry about where you're going. You know, people

1020
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 8: just look at you different. Heck, your teammates even look

1021
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 8: at you different. Because what the media and everybody puts

1022
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 8: out there and says about you, it's totally not true.

1023
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 8: But when they read that, you know, other people just

1024
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 8: they you know, they believe that. So you kind of

1025
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 8: like carry yourself a little bit in the facility, you

1026
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 8: carry yourself a little bit different. You're thinking, man, is

1027
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 8: this you know, does my teammate believe in me? You know,

1028
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 8: do my coaches believe in me? Does the ownership believe

1029
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 8: in me? And I would imagine he felt that way

1030
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 8: in New York and you know I felt that way

1031
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 8: as well. But you know, the main thing is he's

1032
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 8: a confident guy. He's had success in college. He knows

1033
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 8: how good he is. He you know, he has all

1034
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 8: the the ability in the world. You know, like I said,

1035
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 8: not just passing the ball, but he has the mental

1036
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 8: part of it, uh that you need to to be

1037
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 8: a great quarterback. And and he can run. You know,

1038
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 8: he's mobile and man, some of the plays that you've

1039
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 8: seen that you see him make is uh is uh

1040
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 8: you know some of the best that you know, the

1041
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 8: best guy's doing at that level. So uh, you know,

1042
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 8: when whenever you go out and you uh the first

1043
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 8: i mean game three games they played and you were

1044
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 8: the first two games that you never saw the punter

1045
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 8: on the field, that's pretty incredible, you know, to go

1046
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 8: down there and I believe that's what the record with it.

1047
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 4: The punter never played right on that.

1048
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, two games didn't put and then they scored on

1049
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: their first ten possessions. I think something like that or

1050
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: ten straight I should.

1051
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, I mean that.

1052
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's hard to score points in the NFL.

1053
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 8: So so when you're doing that, you don't you don't

1054
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 8: need your punter.

1055
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: Uh.

1056
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 8: That speaks a lot of what your quarterback's doing on

1057
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 8: the field. Is he's doing something right and uh, whether

1058
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 8: you know it's a bad play and he sees the

1059
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 8: blitz coming or he's changed the protection, just knowing where

1060
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 8: everybody's out on the field, he's able to do that.

1061
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 8: So that's that's always going to be, uh be success.

1062
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 8: So you know, I'm happy for him. I'm I'm happy

1063
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 8: for the Colts. I'm happy for him and hopefully they

1064
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 8: can continue.

1065
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: What what things. Jeff, you know you hell, you would

1066
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: know this better than anybody in town. I mean you

1067
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: you were a long time starting quarterback in the National

1068
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: Football League. So when you're watching a game, I'm imagining

1069
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: that you're watching it through a different lens than say

1070
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: myself for most people. When you first saw from Daniel Jones.

1071
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: You know, was there anything that you saw out of

1072
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: him that and I know you, like Anthony Richardson, that

1073
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: you were waiting to see out of Anthony Richardson, that

1074
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: told you right away, Okay, he's comfortable here, this is

1075
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: going to work. What does your trained I notice that

1076
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: perhaps the average person does not.

1077
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 8: Well, you just watch them how they you know, they

1078
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 8: carry themselves in the huddle, how they walk up to

1079
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage. What you're looking for your keys,

1080
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 8: You're you're looking at the safety, you're looking at the front.

1081
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 8: You know, there's just so much you have to do

1082
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 8: that's going through your mind, and the clock's going down

1083
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 8: taking and you have to get to playoff at you know, uh,

1084
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 8: at a certain time. So yeah, just just the way

1085
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 8: he handles itself out of the huddle is excuse me,

1086
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 8: how my car went off?

1087
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: And you can still hear me.

1088
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I hear.

1089
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry about that, that's right.

1090
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 8: So yeah, So just how he cares himself, you know,

1091
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 8: he you can just tell he's in command of the offense.

1092
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 8: And players looking in the eyes, you can see in

1093
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 8: the eyes that you know, they're just looking at him,

1094
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 8: knowing that he's in charge. And you know, if he

1095
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 8: says that he makes a check, he knows the right

1096
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 8: check and not that Anthony Richardson didn't do that. I mean,

1097
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 8: I I see so much uh upside to him and

1098
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 8: all the talent that he has, the arm strength and

1099
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 8: obviously the running ability. I just don't think that that

1100
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 8: he was coached right in the beginning, you know, whereas

1101
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 8: Daniel Jones just came into the league, uh, you know,

1102
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 8: just prepared, came from an offense to preparing him for

1103
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 8: the NFL and uh, you know, and and aar just

1104
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 8: I don't think got the coaching that that he really

1105
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 8: needs to to develop into a great the great quarterback

1106
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 8: that he can be. But man, there's just so much

1107
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 8: upside the day and you know it when you watch him,

1108
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 8: and you know, even in his interviews, how he talks,

1109
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 8: how he uh he was always picking up his teammates,

1110
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 8: always you know, giving credit to somebody else, and you know,

1111
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 8: it's just a he's just a polished quarterback, not just

1112
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 8: on the field but in the media world. And he

1113
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 8: just knows the right things to say and just how

1114
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 8: he acts. And you know, I'm just impressed. I'm impressed

1115
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 8: with the with the not just the football player, but

1116
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 8: the but the person. Every time I hear him.

1117
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Talk, Jeff, I don't think we've had a chance to

1118
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: talk to you, certainly, you know, publicly since the unfortunate

1119
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: passing of Jim Irsay. And you know, I know everybody

1120
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: listening to this show knows what Jim Mersay meant to

1121
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: this town in terms of just his philanthropy and the

1122
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: different things he was involved in. He also was a

1123
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: guy that clearly was a huge believer in you. The story,

1124
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, going back to when he came and watched

1125
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: your work out of Illinois and said, we're gonna make

1126
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: you the number one picking the draft. What was your

1127
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: overall relationship with Jim Mersay and just obviously your thoughts

1128
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: on the loss of Jim Irsay.

1129
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 8: It was tough, you know, just like everybody else, you

1130
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 8: feel all the the stuff that he did for the city.

1131
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 8: But my relationship with him was really good. You know,

1132
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 8: I wish I've said it all along. He's probably the

1133
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 8: best owner that ever played for. I just didn't get

1134
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 8: a chance to play for the owner that he became.

1135
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 8: We all knew that he was he was going to

1136
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 8: be great. He was ah, he loved the players. He

1137
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 8: was always in the weight room lifting weights with everybody,

1138
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 8: and I mean he was always praising, you know, whoever

1139
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 8: he drafted. Yeah, he was a big fan of mine,

1140
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 8: and it's just unfortunate that that I just wasn't able

1141
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 8: to continue my career to play with him because he

1142
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 8: was Uh, you know, I played for a lot of owners, obviously,

1143
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 8: but out of all the owners I played for, nobody

1144
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 8: was better than Jim.

1145
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: So I just wish I.

1146
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 8: Could have brought a lot more wins and a super

1147
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 8: Bowl or a championship to Indianapolis when I played, because, uh,

1148
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 8: he's one of those owners that deserve it. He deserved

1149
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 8: more than the one super Bowl that they won. With

1150
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 8: all the talents that they had here and defense and

1151
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 8: all the offensive players that they had. Uh you know,

1152
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 8: they kind of reminded me of the h the Atlanta

1153
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 8: Braves back when the Braves were good, with all that

1154
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,479
Speaker 8: pitching and Glavin Maddox and all those smolts and having

1155
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 8: all the talent but only winning one World World championship.

1156
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 8: And it would have been nice to have brought him

1157
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 8: more than one one super Bowl because if there's any

1158
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 8: owner that deserved it, it was him and you know,

1159
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 8: we just weren't We just weren't very good. I've said

1160
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 8: this all and you know I've talked about it. We

1161
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 8: were just in that learning stage when I got here,

1162
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 8: and you know, we're just both on offense and defense.

1163
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 8: We just were really weren't that good. And and you know,

1164
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 8: you draft a rookie quarterback, you know, like myself, and

1165
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 8: we had all the comments in the world. But you know,

1166
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 8: if you don't have uh, and I was part of it,

1167
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 8: I'm not you know, blame anybody else, but if you do,

1168
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 8: if you don't have a team uh on both sides

1169
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 8: of the ball, and a team that uh, you know,

1170
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 8: an organization with an owner, and we didn't.

1171
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: I didn't. We didn't even have a GM at the time.

1172
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 4: So uh. I mean it was.

1173
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 8: Bob Ursay and jim and uh so we we we

1174
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 8: were learning as we went. But they got good and

1175
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 8: Jimmy was was one of the best. And what a

1176
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 8: great family. To see his daughters out there being involved

1177
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 8: as much as they are.

1178
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 4: I love that.

1179
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 8: I love hands on owners, having them on the on

1180
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 8: the sidelines, and having jim be a big part of

1181
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 8: them when he was there. It just made you as

1182
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 8: a player feel good and you just couldn't help but win.

1183
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: What is for any player, Jeff, you know, for being

1184
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, be it what Daniel Jones had to in

1185
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: New York, you know, Adie Mitchell, whoever it may be,

1186
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: when you get into the NFL, I mean, aside from

1187
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: the obvious, which is the media and as you you know,

1188
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: let's go back to it. I guess this way, when

1189
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: you talk about just being a leader being you know,

1190
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones appears to kind of have kind of

1191
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: the command in the presence of his teammates. Is that

1192
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: a learned skill? The guys just either have that or

1193
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: they don't, or do you kind of learn it through experience?

1194
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 8: You know what a little bit of both, you know,

1195
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 8: the way you carry yourself as you knows leadership. But

1196
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 8: you know, I've said this, you know, I think I

1197
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 8: said it last time we were on for a quarterback.

1198
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 8: When you come into a system and from college to pros,

1199
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 8: you need to have a young nucleus around you. You

1200
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 8: really can't have a veteran dominated team, uh, because those

1201
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 8: guys just look at you different. It's hard to lead

1202
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 8: as a twenty two year old kid. It's hard to

1203
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 8: lead a thirty two to thirty five year old guy

1204
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 8: and say, hey, follow me. You know, I know, uh,

1205
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 8: you know, I know what I'm doing. I you know

1206
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 8: we're gonna win. Just follow me. I have the the

1207
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 8: map for that. Guys don't really buy in. They're like, yeah, okay, rookie,

1208
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 8: you know you're you know, twenty, Just sit tight, you know,

1209
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 8: two three years down the line. You know, let's uh,

1210
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 8: let's figure this out. But if you got if you've

1211
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 8: got a young group of an offensive line, receivers, you know,

1212
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 8: defensive guys that are you know, two three year veterans,

1213
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 8: and you're coming in as a rookie, it's easy to

1214
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 8: lead those guys. It's easy for those guys to follow you.

1215
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 8: It's easy.

1216
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 4: You know, come in there.

1217
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 8: And you you you feel, you feel like this is

1218
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 8: really my team. You're in the weight room, and you know,

1219
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 8: if all these young guys you're you know, not just football,

1220
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 8: but you do stuff off the field.

1221
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,959
Speaker 4: You do you know, in the off season.

1222
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 8: You go to all the pacer games, you go to dinners,

1223
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 8: you you you go to bowling. You know, all guys

1224
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 8: have foundations nowadays, and you know, you you do you know,

1225
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 8: a ton of charity work together. You're it's not just

1226
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 8: the season that you're together, it's the whole off season

1227
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 8: that you're together as well as the season. And you know,

1228
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 8: that's kind of how you just build the chemistry. And

1229
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 8: you know, that's the way it is in college, high school, college,

1230
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 8: you kind of grew up together. You go through some

1231
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 8: ups and downs, you win and lose together. But if

1232
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 8: you're trying to lead a twenty two year old quarterbacks,

1233
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 8: trying to lead a thirty five year old guy, it's

1234
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 8: kind of hard. And and that's kind of what I

1235
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 8: felt like my experience here in Indianapolis was I felt

1236
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 8: like there just wasn't a lot of young guys that

1237
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 8: we came in together that we could grow together. We

1238
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 8: had two or three guys, but we were a veteran

1239
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 8: dominated team that you know, I felt like half the

1240
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 8: guys came from Baltimore, and you know, I was watching

1241
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 8: them play as a kid, and so it's just it's

1242
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 8: just it's different. So to answer your question, I don't

1243
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 8: know if I'm answering your question or not, but I

1244
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 8: think it's easier for for a guy like Daniel Jones

1245
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 8: to come in. It's been around, it's played four or

1246
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 8: five years. It's been those the ups and downs when

1247
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 8: he was in New York, because nobody faces that type

1248
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 8: of pressure in New York. And then to be able

1249
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 8: to come to Indianapolis, it really is, it's it's pretty easy.

1250
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 8: I'm thinking I would think he would say the same

1251
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 8: thing if New York is nothing like Indianapolis and I

1252
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 8: can just go out there and beat myself. I can

1253
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 8: go to dinner, I can go to the grocery. I don't

1254
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 8: have to go to the grocery at ten forty five

1255
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 8: at night to get my to get milk and cereal

1256
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 8: or whatever. You get to watch Andy Griffiths and.

1257
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 4: Those that know.

1258
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 8: But you know you you can go at you know,

1259
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 8: at one o'clock in the afternoon where people really they

1260
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 8: may know you, they may not, but you know, it's

1261
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 8: just it's the little things that you just kind of

1262
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 8: take for granted that you can't do and in certain

1263
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 8: places that you can do here in Indy and Apple.

1264
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 8: So I know that he feels comfortable, and obviously his

1265
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 8: play is speaking for itself.

1266
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: Have you watched Ted Lasso, Jeff, I have not. Let

1267
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: me tell you some let me tell you something. Of

1268
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: all people Jeff George of all people that I know,

1269
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: needs to watch ted Lasso on Apple TV more than

1270
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: any person because it is basically twenty twenty five Andy Griffith.

1271
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: It is Andy Griffith that we're the sports team. I'm

1272
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: telling you right now, if you start watching Ted Lasso tonight,

1273
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: you will have it done before the Colts kickoff on Sunday.

1274
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: It's three seasons, and then you will say to me,

1275
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: you were right. I mean it has that, you know,

1276
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: Andy Griffith. There's something you can learn in every episode.

1277
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. There's just Andy Griffith gives

1278
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: you a little wisdom in every episode, right right, same thing, man,

1279
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, exact same thing. You will absolutely love it.

1280
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: My last thing for you is this. I know a

1281
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: lot of guys that played will have up on their

1282
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: mantle the helmets of each team they played for. In

1283
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: your case, it would be you know, the Colts, the Falcons,

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01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Seahawks, the Bears, Washington. I might be

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm missing anybody there. Did I miss anybody?

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Speaker 4: Vikings?

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Speaker 1: Vikings? I say, okay, Vikings as well. And then just

1288
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Speaker 1: to the left of that, you would have Illinois, Purdue,

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: and Warren Central. When you look over all those helmets,

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Speaker 1: if you had to pick up one of them to

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Speaker 1: be able to put it on and instantly put yourself

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01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: back to when you played there, that brought you the

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: most joy, it would be which helmet.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're not going to blaivee this, but the Warren

1295
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 8: Tomahawks before my fifth and sixth grade travel ball.

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Speaker 4: Warren travel ball. If you're a kid, you're just out there,

1297
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 4: you're man. I was.

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01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 8: We were pretty good and played with all the guys

1299
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 8: that I played with. It in high school. Obviously, I

1300
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 8: think whenever you ask a quarter or ask a football player,

1301
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 8: what was the best part or best time in your

1302
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 8: life when you played football, and every I think almost

1303
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 8: everybody would say high school, Friday night life. You that

1304
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 8: that that's the best. College is great, you know, you're

1305
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 8: there for four years and you know, but it's more

1306
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 8: of a you know, it's just it's it's not high school.

1307
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 8: And then the pros. It's a business, and you know,

1308
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 8: you have your ups and downs, and you know pros

1309
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 8: are great. NFL is awesome. But for me when it

1310
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 8: all started, Honestly, I mean this sounds crazy, but I

1311
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 8: was a Warren Tomahawk in sixth grade and we went

1312
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 8: you know, made it to the final game. And you know,

1313
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 8: to this day, you know, I can still remember every pass,

1314
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 8: every past incomplete pass because we threw the ball a

1315
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 8: lot in sixth grade and uh for.

1316
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 4: Me as well as high school.

1317
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 8: Uh so answer your question, my Warren Tomahawk helmet, which

1318
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 8: I don't know where it is to this day, I

1319
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 8: probably don't have it, but uh, the high school as well,

1320
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 8: Warren Central. But that helmet up there where all began,

1321
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 8: where it was all innocent. You were just a kid

1322
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 8: and you just go out there and then just played

1323
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 8: with all your buddies that you grew up with, playing

1324
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 8: out in the yard sideyard, backyard, you know, coming in

1325
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 8: at ten to eleven at night, when it's you know,

1326
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 8: mom's calling you to you know, hey, you got to

1327
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 8: come on in and I give us five ten more minutes.

1328
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 8: We're almost done. Uh you know what I'm talking about.

1329
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 8: As we talk about just when it that's when, that's

1330
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 8: when it it was.

1331
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 4: It was just fun.

1332
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: So who beat the Tomahawks When you got to the

1333
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 1: final Who beat you.

1334
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 8: The Greenwood Wood Chuck? They came up with something double

1335
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 8: a gap. It was like, uh, you know, in the teens,

1336
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 8: it was teens. I couldn't fill my hand. Lance Shyte's

1337
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 8: dad was our coach. He's yelling at me, saying, you

1338
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 8: got a hold on the ball, Hold on the ball.

1339
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 8: My hands are frozen. I couldn't you know. I'm telling hi,

1340
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 8: let's try and run the ball a little bit. We're

1341
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 8: throwing at forty to fifty times in the in the

1342
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 8: ten degree weather, and uh, I think we got beat

1343
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 8: like I don't even think we scored, like having enough,

1344
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 8: and I believe it was. But they kept coming with

1345
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 8: a blitz through dole, a gap blitz. And you know,

1346
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 8: we're a little sixth grades that we had no idea

1347
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 8: how to pick it up. And I'm taking one step

1348
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 8: getting hit and getting sacked and not really sure of

1349
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 8: thinking to myself, Man, maybe I need to play baseball.

1350
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 4: Get into baseball.

1351
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 8: So I think that's how I became good in baseball,

1352
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 8: because I wasn't sure whether I liked football or not

1353
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 8: because I got hit too much in the Little league.

1354
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: Damn those wood Chucks, that's all I gotta say.

1355
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 4: Those darn Greenwood would say.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Jeff appreciated as always man great perspectives. Appreciate

1357
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: it and look forward to talking to you again.

1358
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 4: Sound good, Jake, anytime.

1359
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: Thanks Jeff George. Joining us on the program. The former

1360
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: Warren Tomahawk in Indianapolis. Colt Kevin Bowen will join us

1361
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: coming up just a couple of minutes from now. We'll

1362
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: get the latest on what he's hearing from the colts

1363
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: in terms of who's in and who's out for Sunday.

1364
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: Bottom of the Hour. By the way, about an hour

1365
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: from now, Franciscan Health, Good for the heart. Stephanie White

1366
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: gonna join us coming up. Top of the Hour. Fever

1367
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: in Action tonight in Vegas. Thanks to Jeff George for

1368
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: his perspective. I thought it was really good perspective about

1369
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and just maybe the ease of that pressure

1370
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: from being able to change scenery, from the expectation coming

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01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: into the National Football League. Joining us now in the

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: program you hear each and every morning along with James

1373
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: Boyd and jeff Rickord on the Fan Morning show. Kevin

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01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: Bowen and Kevin let's begin with this from a colt's standpoint,

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01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say, and I don't know

1376
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,520
Speaker 1: if official word has come out yet on the availability

1377
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: of a couple of players. So you tell me if

1378
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: especially Kenny Moore Alec Pearce, do we know more than

1379
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: we did say yesterday?

1380
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Kenny Moore out for Sunday. Still they still are

1381
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 9: saying no injured reserve. So that's I guess good news.

1382
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 9: So basically thought there, you know, should return, I guess

1383
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 9: in the next whatever three weeks, and the reserve has

1384
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 9: to be at least four games. Alex Pierce is out

1385
01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 9: and then Matt Gonzalves, their starter right guard is also out.

1386
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 9: So first O line shakeup of the year, they'll go

1387
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 9: to Dalton Tucker, who did start I think it was

1388
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 9: seven games as an undrafted free agent last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's go to that first off in terms

1390
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: of that right guard because that is an area of

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01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: the line that a year ago they started to have

1392
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: to play around a little bit with depth there. Right,

1393
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: your thoughts are just your overall you know, with Tucker,

1394
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: how big a drop is that when you go there.

1395
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: I know you said he's had some reps, but what

1396
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: do we look towards in terms of the vulnerability there

1397
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: now on that side of the line.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think as he played last season he looked

1399
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 9: more like an undrafted free agent.

1400
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 10: And so if you remember, they really.

1401
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 9: Shuffled that right guard spot a lot as the year

1402
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 9: moved along.

1403
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 10: Once Will Fryes got hurt.

1404
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 9: I think fries got hurt in like week four, Week five,

1405
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 9: Tucker started for a while and then you know, remember

1406
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 9: they got Mark Lewinski at one point. So, uh, they

1407
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 9: really feel like Tucker has made a jump though from

1408
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 9: a year one to year two, and I think they

1409
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 9: are they that you know a little bit of worse

1410
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 9: in their mouth, but I think they feel decent about him,

1411
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 9: you know, being called upon. So be curious that the

1412
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 9: Rams don't have the most household defense, certainly not you know,

1413
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 9: Donald and von Miller and Jalen Ramsey from the super Bowl.

1414
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 9: But they still have a pretty good defensive line, even

1415
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 9: though the names might not be super common. So I

1416
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 9: don't think it's something we'll watch again, you know, offensive

1417
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 9: line wise, Like I said, it's the first time they've

1418
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 9: had to change up that group, So definitely something to watch.

1419
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: Forums on the Kevin which team right now? Do you

1420
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: think league wide there's more question mark about it, and

1421
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: question mark in a good way. In other words, Between

1422
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Rams. If you were to just survey,

1423
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, a big NFL enthusiast living in Dallas that

1424
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: has you know, a completely neutral observer, which of these

1425
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: two teams do you think is more intriguing as to

1426
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: who they truly are?

1427
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 9: Oh, I think it's definitely the Colts. I mean, I

1428
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,480
Speaker 9: think people will go with the Hall of Fame quarterback

1429
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 9: and the Super Bowl winning coach more than they would

1430
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 9: go if you know, three games to Daniel Jones and

1431
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 9: you shin second, you know, I guess is whatever he

1432
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 9: is slightly above five hundred head coach. Now, if you

1433
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 9: want to really like get into the weeds of these

1434
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 9: three games, I mean, the Colts have probably been the

1435
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,879
Speaker 9: more impressive team. I mean the Rams, you know, struggled

1436
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 9: with Houston and then pulled away at the end, got

1437
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 9: a huge fumble late. You know, they even struggle with

1438
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 9: Tennessee a little bit. And then you know, Lastick was

1439
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 9: really kind of a tailored two halves for those that

1440
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 9: watch their game with the Eagles. They jumped all over

1441
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 9: Philly early and then Philly made the Roaring comeback and

1442
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 9: then the game ended on that blockfield goal. So yeah,

1443
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 9: I mean I would say Stafford McVeigh. I mean, you're

1444
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 9: you're gonna bet on them more than you know, one

1445
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 9: month of Daniel Jones and Shang stike in.

1446
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 10: But if you.

1447
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 9: Really and I get the Colts have played, you know,

1448
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 9: probably the easiest schedule in the NFL. I don't know

1449
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 9: if that plays out, but you know, three teams that

1450
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 9: are combined one and eight. So yeah, I would guess

1451
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 9: people would say Stafford to mcsay.

1452
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: The Daniel Jones play. Kevin, I'm fascinated by this aspect

1453
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: of it, and that is the fact that, you know,

1454
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: I think one of the more underappreciated aspects of this.

1455
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: We don't talk about it enough. We can talk about

1456
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: it every hour, and I don't know wh what we're

1457
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: talking about it enough. The way that they're taking care

1458
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: of the football and they just simply are not turning

1459
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: the football over and they are, you know, so efficient offensively.

1460
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: Is that because and I've asked a lot of people this,

1461
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: but in your mind, is that because Shane Stikeen is

1462
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 1: brilliantly able to pick plays that he feels don't expose

1463
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: any limitation of Daniel Jones. Or is it that Daniel

1464
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: Jones has a level of play that allows Shane Stikeen

1465
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: to further open his playbook and feel comfortable with whatever

1466
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: it is he wants to do.

1467
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I would say a little bit of both.

1468
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 9: I think Shane definitely is a play caller, you know,

1469
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 9: has kept the cults away from I guess the less

1470
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 9: than favorable situations. But and I know I've said this

1471
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 9: a lot, and you and I probably have a discussion

1472
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 9: at some point in the morning show. And I think

1473
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 9: one of the better Peyton Manning quotes out there, and

1474
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 9: he says it is quite often the Manning cast is

1475
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 9: a huge part of the quarterbacks job is when you

1476
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 9: recognize you're in a bad play, either a get out

1477
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 9: of it or B don't make it any worse. And

1478
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 9: so for Daniel Jones, is recognizing the bad play. Mean, hey,

1479
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 9: let me get to the Johnson Taylor checkdown quicker.

1480
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 10: You know, those sorts of plays. But you know, when

1481
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 10: you think about.

1482
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 9: The three weeks of football for the Colts, Miami dropped

1483
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 9: one interception. I can't recall many other times where I've

1484
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 9: said to myself, oh boy, Daniel Jones got away with

1485
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 9: that one like that, oh boy, and that probably should

1486
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 9: have been a turnover.

1487
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 10: If you do that again, it's not gonna end well.

1488
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 9: Like, I haven't even really been many of those plays,

1489
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 9: So I think a lot of credit also goes to

1490
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 9: him of staying away, which is probably the biggest one

1491
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 9: eighty from his NFL career is that he has had

1492
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 9: too many negative plays. Again, there are some quarterbacks that

1493
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 9: are just boring. They don't do anything good, they don't

1494
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 9: do anything bad. There are some Jameis Winston probably the

1495
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 9: biggest example of it, that like they do a lot

1496
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 9: of good, but they'll do a lot of bad. And

1497
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 9: for Jones to have walked that really fine line of

1498
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 9: like doing.

1499
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 10: Good and then no bad, that.

1500
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 9: Is truly impressive because you know, again he's had moments

1501
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 9: in his NFL career, but they've always been sprinkled in

1502
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 9: with the negatives, the turnovers, the sacks, and those haven't

1503
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 9: been there really at all.

1504
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: Through three weeks, Kevin, the you know, the season so

1505
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: far I have been really impressed by, and I know

1506
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: you have commented on this as well. The rebirth to

1507
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: an extent or maybe the birth of Alec Pearce, and

1508
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: by that I mean, and I don't know if it

1509
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: was Alec Pierce, something he's done if it's Shane Steichen,

1510
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: but they've been able to put him in situations of

1511
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: a different operating area than where we have seen Alec Pierce,

1512
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: and it's paid huge dividend. I realize that you know

1513
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: his health is in question right now, but are we

1514
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: about to see the same level of incorporation and diversity

1515
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: of Ady Mitchell starting to present itself, Whether they're going

1516
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 1: to try to use him in different ways?

1517
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna be a huge

1518
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 9: ad Mitchell week. Last year the one game Pierce Smith

1519
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 9: Mitchell I think played over fifty snaps in the game,

1520
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 9: which is a huge number for a wide out.

1521
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 10: So I would expect that to be the case.

1522
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 9: Obviously, Tyler Warren's presence is there and wasn't there obviously

1523
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,839
Speaker 9: last year. But you know it might not look exactly

1524
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 9: the same as Pierce. But granted you saw the goals.

1525
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 9: I mean, they took a shot down the field to

1526
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 9: eighty Mitchell in Week two with Patrick shirts hand of

1527
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 9: all corners, one of the best in the league, and

1528
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 9: coverage on him. They took a shot last week down

1529
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 9: the field to him and he drew a big pass

1530
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 9: interference penalty. So I fully expect Ady Mitchell to play

1531
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 9: a lot, to be targeted at deascent amount, and you

1532
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 9: know he is, the opportunity should be there for him

1533
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 9: to have.

1534
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 10: A career game.

1535
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 9: You know, if there are some weaknesses to the Rams.

1536
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 9: Their ow line has been a little banged up, particularly

1537
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 9: a guard, and in corner they lost their best corner

1538
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 9: a couple weeks ago, and just in general they're not

1539
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 9: the most physical corner. So I do think that is

1540
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 9: definitely an aspect where the Colts can take.

1541
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 10: Advantage of them. So yeah, you know, the.

1542
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 9: Staff continues to speak super highly of ad Mitchell when

1543
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 9: he's on the field. They target him a good amount.

1544
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 9: So Daniel Jones clearly feels a level of trust, which

1545
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 9: is not a word you want to used last year

1546
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 9: with ad Mitchell. So yeah, you know, Pittman and warning

1547
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 9: might be you know, more of the target guys, but

1548
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 9: still I think Adie mitchellill play a lot and be

1549
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 9: targeted a decent amount.

1550
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 5: Uh.

1551
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: Did I hear Chad Buchanon yesterday in a press conference

1552
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: acknowledge your Notre dame fighting Irish? Was that designed to you?

1553
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 4: Yes?

1554
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 10: He did take a take a dig.

1555
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 9: Yes, I forget the exact wording of it, either about

1556
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 9: them losing or about them unable to guard anybody, maybe both,

1557
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 9: but yes, he definitely did yeah, little little.

1558
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, those a little twists of the knife there. I

1559
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 10: was caught off.

1560
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 9: Guard and I just stood there and just had no

1561
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 9: reaction and was stunned, and then thought to myself, damn,

1562
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 9: how quickly things can change, with how people's perception of

1563
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 9: noted in football.

1564
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: I took it as a compliment that Chad Buchanan is

1565
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 1: listening to the station.

1566
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,839
Speaker 9: Well, well, yeah, he strikes me as a P one listener.

1567
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 9: You know, a long drive from Westfield down there to

1568
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 9: the Saint Instan Center, and we know he's come on

1569
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 9: with John quite often there.

1570
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 10: So yes, if we can get.

1571
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 9: Him one of those little Nielsen raiding pagers, that would

1572
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 9: be wonderful because I think Chad Buchanan is one of

1573
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 9: the few people that listened religiously.

1574
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: He commented last year at some point at one of

1575
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: the games, did he liked my why not Indiana T shirt?

1576
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: And then I thought it was probably a bad technical

1577
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: marketing error that I didn't get him won, right.

1578
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 10: Oh boy, yeah, you dropped the ball on that.

1579
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 9: And I must say there was one point and Mark

1580
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 9: Dykon got me all excited. This week, Mark goes, hey,

1581
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 9: have you checked your desk for the shirt from Jay?

1582
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 9: I go the shirt from Jake, And then I'm thinking myself, boy, yeah,

1583
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 9: now that I think about it, months ago, Jake texted

1584
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 9: me what is my shirt size? And this is all

1585
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 9: during the wine not Indiana crazy, and I thought, man,

1586
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 9: what a nice gesture from Jake. He got me a

1587
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 9: shirt that was super nice. So and then I kind

1588
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 9: of forgot about it. And then Mark says it this

1589
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 9: week and I'm like, oh, okay, let me go to

1590
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 9: my desk.

1591
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 10: Mark goes, check your drawers.

1592
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 9: I haven't opened the drawers to my desk and I've

1593
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 9: worked there for what seven years?

1594
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 10: Eight years?

1595
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 9: I don't know if I've opened the drawers one time.

1596
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 9: I'm opening all the drawers. I'm looking under binders, I'm

1597
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 9: looking behind, I'm looking under the desk.

1598
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 10: I got no shirts, So Chad Buchanan and I we

1599
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 10: got no shot.

1600
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 1: Listen. Mark will tell you the shirt ferry made deliveries.

1601
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm not responsible. If it took you seven months to

1602
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: finally grab it, I'm not responsible for it. If it

1603
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: grew eggs, that ain't on me.

1604
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 10: Well, how about a head's up. You know, hey, f

1605
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 10: y I I you.

1606
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: Know, maybe I just to your responsible employee that uses

1607
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: your desk. Well, lord knows.

1608
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 9: Your desk is as dusty as any of the in

1609
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 9: that whole building.

1610
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: You know, I notice a glimpse behind the curtain for

1611
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: folks here. So we have here at the fan, we

1612
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: have the an office that has a desk for all

1613
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 1: of us, I mean myself, you, JMV. You know, we're

1614
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: all in the same area. And they came in and

1615
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: put new desktop phones on said desks, and I noticed

1616
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: that none of us have opened those out of the

1617
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: box yet.

1618
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, it's obviously I think all of us

1619
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 9: probably pot kettle black here. I think there's probably still

1620
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 9: pictures of you, of you and Shannon's first date, me

1621
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 9: before kid.

1622
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now, I do think possible. Kevin, now here's

1623
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: the thing you are a And I'm not saying the

1624
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: name of any businesses or whatever else, but but it

1625
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: is my understanding there may be the possibility of why

1626
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: not Indiana for IU football shirts coming out? So you

1627
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: know I can do a make good for you, even

1628
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: though I know that notes for Davi, your first love,

1629
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:58,919
Speaker 1: but you went to Indiana, So that's cool.

1630
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 9: Right, Just that's why he's grown a little bit since

1631
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 9: I last texted you, so probably x before the l

1632
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 9: L that I texted you lastly?

1633
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: Have you has the sun made the pick yet this week? No?

1634
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 9: Got the helmet's sitting out. I've been so bad about

1635
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 9: I'm got a pick Colts. Right, it's just a blue

1636
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 9: and a yellow. I mean, it's just all blue and

1637
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 9: the yellow stripe. Right, it's too yellow stripes? Is that

1638
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 9: what the rams helmet is?

1639
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: The Rams change them a lot, you know what I mean?

1640
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't which one are they going with this week?

1641
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. They change them all the time.

1642
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 9: We don't Unfortunately, we haven't gotten in a modern NFL.

1643
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 9: We don't have all the helmet you know, possibilities. We're

1644
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 9: not you know, can you imagine picking which helmet Organ's gonna.

1645
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 4: Wear each week?

1646
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: Exactly?

1647
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 9: Spending half of five twenty nine on Oregon helmets here?

1648
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 9: So yes, we have not done it yet, but I

1649
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 9: would assume he has one two in a row. I

1650
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 9: would assume he's going to stick with the Colts here,

1651
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 9: just because not a lot of attraction, particularly from a

1652
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 9: zoology standpoint, with the Rams helmet.

1653
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, Kevin enjoy the weekend, enjoy the games,

1654
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: and we will certainly be listening seven o'clock Monday morning

1655
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 1: to the Fan Morning Show and recapping everything that happens

1656
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: this weekend.

1657
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 10: It is an awesome sports weekend. You boys have a

1658
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 10: great one.

1659
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: It is indeed that Kevin Bowen joining us on the program.

1660
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: Stephanie White canna join us coming up top of the

1661
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: hour we come back. Chad Bucannon said more about the

1662
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: Pacers in terms of their offense that I thought was

1663
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: very telling about something that happened over the course of

1664
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: last season, involving a guy that's going to be very

1665
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: important for them. We'll play it next hard to believe,

1666
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: by the way, rolling along here quickly on a Friday.

1667
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: Awesome sports weekend ahead, Kevin Bowen, thanks for the time.

1668
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, then you did not hear

1669
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: that Kenny Moore the second has been ruled out for

1670
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: the Colts, did he say? And no word? Still definditively

1671
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: on Alec Pierce correct Eddie out out and then also

1672
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: a shake up on the offense line.

1673
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: Mat Gonzalva is dealing with the toe injury. He is out,

1674
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: did not practice it all this week.

1675
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: So Tucker will be there on the right side. Dalton Tucker,

1676
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: not Tucker Bonheart. That's right, very important, distinguished fever and

1677
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: action tonight. Stephanie White joining us about ten minutes from now.

1678
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: Also at Gambridge Field House that is the home arena

1679
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: of the Indiana Pacers who are getting set for media

1680
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: day coming up on Monday. But yesterday Chad Buchanan, their

1681
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: general manager, meeting with the media and just kind of

1682
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: talking about where things stand right now. Obviously we know

1683
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: Miles Turner in Milwaukee, Tyres Haliburton will be out. Pascal

1684
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: Siakam presumably becomes a focal point as he already was

1685
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: of the offense. But Rick Carlyle has made no bones

1686
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: about the fact that Benedict Mathern will be a starter

1687
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: and Benedict Matheren will be another player that they are

1688
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:57,919
Speaker 1: heavily reliant upon. Interesting comments from Chad Buchanan yesterday regarding

1689
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: Benedick Mathern, Eddie, Eddie, hold on, let's do this again,

1690
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: and sorry, we're going to play lottery here to see

1691
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: if Eddie hits Chad Buchanan button or music button, bang

1692
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: the drum.

1693
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: All there we want Ben Batherin.

1694
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 1: That's right, Chad, you canon, this is not Todd Runner,

1695
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 1: and I promise.

1696
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 7: We need Benedict to play his style that suits his strengths,

1697
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 7: but we need it to help us win, you know,

1698
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 7: finding that balance of doing what he does well but

1699
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 7: within the team frame of what we need him to

1700
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 7: do for us to be successful, because you don't want,

1701
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 7: you know, not the doubt that this is Bendett. But

1702
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 7: there's players who are going to look and see, Okay,

1703
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 7: I scored twenty two points tonight.

1704
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 4: I don't care.

1705
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 7: I don't look at the winner loss. I just know

1706
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 7: I played well and that's not how Ben is. Ben

1707
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 7: wants to win, but we need his production, his play

1708
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 7: style to adopt to us that allows us to be

1709
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 7: to win games. And I think that's the challenge for

1710
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 7: a young player is figuring out, Okay, what can I

1711
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 7: do and then figure out what can I do that

1712
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 7: helps us win. There's two separate things there, and we

1713
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 7: need that the winning part to be part of of

1714
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 7: Ben's approach, and I think he can do it. And

1715
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 7: I think there's things that he does that we need

1716
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 7: that we're lacking, and him figuring out when do I

1717
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 7: do that and when do I play within the system

1718
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 7: of what we're trying to do is a challenge for

1719
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 7: a young player, and that's that's what Ben's going through.

1720
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 7: And he's still a very very young player, and his

1721
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 7: future is still way out in front of him, and

1722
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 7: we're excited to see what he can do with added,

1723
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 7: you know, opportunity this year.

1724
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a fascinating comment because it's a little

1725
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: bit of a challenge to Ben Dick Matheren or message

1726
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: to him, not as a knock on him, and I

1727
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: think that Chad Buchanan made sure to clarify that it's

1728
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: not a knock. But one of the things about Benedict

1729
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: Mathern's it's not his personality. I'm not saying that, but

1730
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: Benedict Matherin, who is a very talented player and a

1731
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: very confident player and more than anything else, a very

1732
01:24:54,280 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: competitive player. But Bennickmatherin's strong suit is a basketb is

1733
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: a more independently based suit. It is a more isolation

1734
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 1: based skill set. And there were times last year in particular,

1735
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: that when Matherin came in, everything kind of ground to

1736
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: a halt because if the ball went to him, it

1737
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: didn't stay within the flow what they were doing. That

1738
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: is not a knock on him, that's just the reality

1739
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: of at times Benedict Matherin was an F one P

1740
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: fifty when you were actually in wide open interstate space

1741
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: and everybody else was running like a Ferrari. That's the

1742
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: bad analogy side of the medicine. That's a fellow playing

1743
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: the vacuum cleaner for fish. And apparently people found that

1744
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: to be music. But I do think it's interesting though,

1745
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: when he says it needs to be within the frame,

1746
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: because I think last year what you saw in the finals,

1747
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 1: we saw the best and the worst of Benedict Matherin

1748
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: in back to back games. He saved them a game.

1749
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Game three, Benedict Matherin, I

1750
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: think it was Game three Benedict Matherin was the one

1751
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: that delivered them a win. He came in and he

1752
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: got to the free throw line and he was aggressive

1753
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: and it was fabulous. But he also then turned around

1754
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: and in game four when they had the seven point lead,

1755
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: and he came in and he got two off ball

1756
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: fouls and he missed several free throws and Benedict taketh Bendic,

1757
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, give it Benedict, take it away. I mean

1758
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of that. And for him

1759
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: to say, it's like Chad Buchanan was basically letting his

1760
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: subconscious speak there in the form of we need it.

1761
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: We need him to better play within the parameters of

1762
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: what we are and who we are. We need him

1763
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: to understand the the better mix in mesh of the

1764
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: style in which we are playing. And I think there's

1765
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: a yin and yang there that, by his own admission,

1766
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,839
Speaker 1: they are still navigating through to figure out that fair balance.

1767
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: But I think you could hear right there that there

1768
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: still was the back of the mind presence of we're

1769
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: still figuring out whether or not that is a style

1770
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: that can benefit us.

1771
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: You think the style that they're you know, discussing more physical,

1772
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 2: a little bit slower, can benefit him, And yes, it

1773
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: is to benefit him mainly.

1774
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: What is Here's the thing. It is out of necessity

1775
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: because now without Halliburton.

1776
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's no one to one replacement for Tarrese.

1777
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: And without Turner, you now have to shift your offensive

1778
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: focus to one a being Siakam, which it always kind

1779
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: of was. But Siakam is a low post isolation player.

1780
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: And then if you don't have Burton and if you

1781
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: don't have Turner obviously, and you know that this year

1782
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: is about the development and the being able to see

1783
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 1: what you have in Jeris Walker and Benedict Mathern, because

1784
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: you already are going down to Siakam a lot and

1785
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: that's going to lead to a lot of isolation on

1786
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: the post. That means that you can slow down the

1787
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: game to truly assess what those two guys are. And

1788
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: also I think it means that if those other two

1789
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: guys that we mentioned were actually returning, then we're maybe

1790
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: not even having this conversation because it's not as relevant.

1791
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: But that's what this year is going to be about.

1792
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Stephanie White joins us next, I feel like we've regressed

1793
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: in the musical selections, you know what I mean? Like

1794
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we had this great common ground in

1795
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: the beginning with acts, and then with each week the

1796
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: music that we've allowed coach Stephanie White to pick for us,

1797
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: we've regressed. So it makes me wonder what the next

1798
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 1: one would be. I mean, how close are we getting

1799
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: now to like Milli Vanilli? Pretty close? Right, she joins us.

1800
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Now on the program, Fever and Action. Tonight it is

1801
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: Game three of the WNBA Playoffs with Las Vegas coach.

1802
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: How are you?

1803
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 11: I'm good? How are you?

1804
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: Did you like Milli Vanilli? I'm well, thank you? Did

1805
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 1: you like Milli Vanilli?

1806
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 11: I wasn't really a Milli vanill fan though.

1807
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say that's a little before your time, admittedly,

1808
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: but a little bit Okay. I want to begin with

1809
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: this and before we get into and there's plenty to

1810
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: talk about and get to. Uh. And I know that

1811
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: you talked about it obviously, you know, answered some questions

1812
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: it publicly did. But I wanted to give you the

1813
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: opportunity here because since we last talked to you, you know,

1814
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: we know of the passing of Nancy Leonard, who was

1815
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: just an absolute pillar in terms of sports in this town,

1816
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 1: clearly in basketball in this town. And I would assume

1817
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: that you had plenty of interaction with but just your

1818
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: overall thoughts on the loss of Nancy Leonard.

1819
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right, a pillar of sports

1820
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 12: and a pillar of this franchise, and you know, especially

1821
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 12: you know from a from a female perspective as well,

1822
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 12: the leadership, the vision, the commitment, it just you know,

1823
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 12: someone of her stature who we have had the pleasure

1824
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 12: of standing on the shoulders of you know, and now

1825
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 12: I think responsibility to continue the legacy, you.

1826
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Know, the I thought about this stepping in and I

1827
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: want your thought on this. I oftentimes when you think

1828
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: about Nancy Leonard, one of the narratives, of course is

1829
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, this this female athletic, this female pioneer in sports,

1830
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: because it was such the anomaly right to have an

1831
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: assistant general manager that was a woman back in those

1832
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 1: times as the Pacers were transitioning from the ABA into

1833
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: the NBA. And while I understand the relevance of pointing

1834
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 1: out her gender because of the anomaly of that, then

1835
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 1: the more I thought about it, the more I thought,

1836
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 1: but it wasn't necessarily even about that. It was just

1837
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: about the fact of being a leader, regardless of you

1838
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because she she kind of transcended

1839
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: through that into simply face of the franchise, if you will. Now,

1840
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: is that is that selling short or is that discrediting

1841
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: the things that she may have had to overcome earlier

1842
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: in her career.

1843
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think that when we look at

1844
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 12: it from today's viewpoint, we can look at it like that,

1845
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 12: but I do think it's it's short selling what she

1846
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 12: had to overcome to be in that position.

1847
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 11: You know, certainly, I think we still.

1848
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 12: Have a long way to go in terms of women

1849
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 12: in sport, especially women in what have traditionally been male

1850
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 12: sport dominate the areas. And you know that, I think

1851
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 12: about this organization, Nancy Leonard, think about the drafting of

1852
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 12: Anne Myers, and the way that this franchise has embraced

1853
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 12: women in leadership position, in the way that women have

1854
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 12: been at the fore front of change, and starting certainly

1855
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:08,520
Speaker 12: with with Nancy Leonard, and then the commitment to continuing

1856
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 12: to see the vision unfold. And I think from a

1857
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 12: leadership standpoint, yes, leadership and sport, leadership and community, you know,

1858
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 12: understanding how to break barriers. And you know, we say

1859
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 12: it all the time in women's sports that if you

1860
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 12: can see it, you can be it.

1861
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 11: And she was one of.

1862
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: The first the Fever in action tonight taking on Las

1863
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: Vegas game number three. Let's talk about game number two

1864
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: in the fact that and when I looked at that game,

1865
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 1: it seemed to me to be one and it was

1866
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: interesting because you guys had a couple of different periods

1867
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: where you made runs coaching that game. But at the

1868
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 1: same time, it seemed like there was a more passive

1869
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: approach to it than in game one. Game one, it

1870
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: was like they came out and said, you know, there

1871
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 1: was we're taking this game right. There was just a

1872
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,640
Speaker 1: will there that seemed to drop a little bit in

1873
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: game two. Am I being too critical? And I there?

1874
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 11: Oh, I think you're right.

1875
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 12: You know, I think some of it had to do

1876
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 12: with with how Las Vegas came out in game one

1877
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 12: and in game two. In game two, they certainly came

1878
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 12: out like a team who's won multiple championships, who understood

1879
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 12: what it meant to be there, who had a desperation

1880
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 12: about them, as they should have and as we should have.

1881
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 12: In game one, you know, certainly you don't want to

1882
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 12: come back to Indiana in a position where you're down.

1883
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 11: O two, I think you saw their.

1884
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 12: Experience come through.

1885
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 11: You know, we've got a group.

1886
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 12: That's really not been through this before in terms of

1887
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 12: our core group, and I think you saw a little

1888
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 12: bit of lack of experience in terms of mentality, what

1889
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 12: it takes consistently and there's no substitute for experience understanding

1890
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 12: the urgency of the moment, understanding that not just every

1891
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 12: step that you take in the playoffs, but every game

1892
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 12: moving forward in the playoffs requires a different version of

1893
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 12: yourself and your team. Sense of urgency continues to go up,

1894
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 12: you know, desperation, not the reckless desperation, but desperation in

1895
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 12: terms of understanding how important every play, every possession, every

1896
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,839
Speaker 12: loose ball, uh, you know, every box out, every coverage

1897
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 12: is and and you.

1898
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 11: Know this this we got.

1899
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 12: Knocked in the mouth and we didn't have a response.

1900
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 12: We had our moments, like you said, where we could,

1901
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 12: but it was it was a little bit of a

1902
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 12: of a mirror image of Game two. You know, we

1903
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 12: came out the aggressor and then they were a little

1904
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 12: bit on their heels and they made some runs and

1905
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 12: we were able to make runs of our own to

1906
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 12: extend and in Game two, they did what they were

1907
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 12: supposed to do, you know, and now fortunately for us,

1908
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 12: we're back home.

1909
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, when I look at this year in the WNBA,

1910
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,440
Speaker 1: and there are wonderful players across the WNBA, and obviously,

1911
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: you know, you see one of the best in Las Vegas,

1912
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 1: right and Asia Wilson. But this year and I know

1913
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 1: that not everybody can win an award. Kelsey Mitchell is

1914
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: the most valuable player of the WNBA When I look

1915
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 1: at just what's happened this year and all and really

1916
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: and I think I say that, coach, because of the

1917
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: different roles over the course of a year she has

1918
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: had to fill at different periods, depending on what it

1919
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 1: was you guys needed. It seems to me like she's

1920
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: been able to fill each and every void that has

1921
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: been asked of her. At what point this year did

1922
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: you see in her perhaps even that elevation of game

1923
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 1: to the point and she's been a great player. I

1924
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: don't mean that she didn't have that to begin with,

1925
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: but when did you see this year where you thought,

1926
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: to yourself, this is another level for her.

1927
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 12: I mean, I think I think at various points, but certainly,

1928
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 12: you know when there was when we were at Chicago.

1929
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:26,719
Speaker 12: We were at Chicago, I.

1930
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 11: Know we were without Caitlin.

1931
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 12: I can't remember, you know who else was was not

1932
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 12: playing at that moment when we were playing at the

1933
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 12: United Center, and she just took over the ball game

1934
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 12: in the second half, you know, in in Connecticut when

1935
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 12: she just took over the You know, she has these

1936
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 12: moments where she just can take over the ball game.

1937
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 12: And and and then when we lose you know, Sophie,

1938
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 12: who was kind of our third, fourth backup point guard,

1939
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 12: and then we asked her to start playing a little

1940
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 12: bit more primary ball handler, more point guard. And this

1941
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 12: is this comes with more decision making, it comes with

1942
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 12: more facilitating, it comes with more responsibility. And she just

1943
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 12: continued to get better and continued to shoulder that responsibility

1944
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 12: and elevate her game from that standpoint. And then as

1945
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 12: we headed into the playoffs, the position that that she'd

1946
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 12: only been in, you know, last year for the first

1947
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 12: time in her career, and her leadership really started to

1948
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 12: come through and her hold taking you know, accountability and

1949
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 12: holding one another accountable, her communication just just different different

1950
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 12: areas that she's continued to grow. I mean, she's always

1951
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 12: been a great player, and she's always been a terrific

1952
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 12: score and I think that at various points this year,

1953
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 12: and certainly as we've made this playoff run, you've seen

1954
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 12: her playmaking and her leadership.

1955
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 2: Steph, how has your relationship with Kelsey grown from when

1956
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 2: you were hired, When you started out trying to convince

1957
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: her to come back to the Indian and Fever to

1958
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 2: now where she has been. She arguably has been one

1959
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 2: of the best players in a season in the Fever history.

1960
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 2: This year.

1961
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 12: I mean, our relationship has continued to grow. You know,

1962
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 12: I know that she knows how much I believe in her,

1963
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 12: how much I trust her. Know I could speak from

1964
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 12: from the outside and when I when we were trying

1965
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 12: to bring her back, just just how excited I would

1966
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 12: would be to coach her, and how much we want

1967
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 12: to put her in positions to be successful and put

1968
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 12: her in positions to do some things with this franchise

1969
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 12: that that that she hadn't done and we hadn't done.

1970
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 11: In a long time.

1971
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 12: And you know, I think that she knows that I

1972
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 12: trust her, and I do and I trust her as well.

1973
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 12: I mean, she is just The thing about Kelsey Mitchell

1974
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 12: is that she just wants to play ball.

1975
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 6: Man.

1976
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 12: She is just somebody who just loves the game. You know,

1977
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 12: she doesn't get caught up and and and all of

1978
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,520
Speaker 12: the things you know that that are a part of

1979
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 12: of being a basketball player in this league. She just

1980
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 12: wants to hoop and that she's the ultimate competitor in

1981
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 12: in that way. And you know, we've continued to layer

1982
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 12: things for her, and and so I think her trust

1983
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 12: in in in us, and certainly our trust in her

1984
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 12: has just continued to grow. But I absolutely love her.

1985
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 12: I mean, she is one of the best human beings around.

1986
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 12: She is one of the hardest workers you know, that

1987
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 12: I've ever been around, and she is one of the

1988
01:37:58,360 --> 01:37:59,520
Speaker 12: ultimate competitors.

1989
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 1: By the way, when's the last time you just hooped? Like,

1990
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:03,799
Speaker 1: when's the last time you just went out and played?

1991
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 13: Huh?

1992
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 12: I don't know, Jake, what like twenty years ago. Maybe

1993
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 12: it's been a long time.

1994
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like do you do you ever just

1995
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 1: pick up a ball and like nobody's around, You're like,

1996
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna put up one hundred

1997
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 1: fifty shots.

1998
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 12: I'll put up some shots. I don't think it's one

1999
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,759
Speaker 12: hundred and fifty anymore. And every once in a while

2000
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 12: I would go out there with the kids, but now

2001
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 12: they're getting too big and strong, so I'm not trying

2002
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 12: to get hurt.

2003
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: Well just wait, wait, like wait till you're my age.

2004
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you're like, oh my gosh,

2005
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 1: Like I think I told you I was playing pick

2006
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: up ball. And this is probably eight years ago. And

2007
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,879
Speaker 1: I go for a routine putback I've done a thousand times,

2008
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: and just when I'm about to basically lay it back in,

2009
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 1: this young buck comes up. I look over and I

2010
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: see like knees elevating above me. For a I'm like,

2011
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: that's it. You know what I mean, that's it.

2012
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 11: You just done?

2013
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 1: You know, you know when you got to be done? Right?

2014
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 5: Oh?

2015
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's for sure.

2016
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why or where this came about this

2017
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 1: in this postseason run, coach, but I've seen a lot

2018
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: in the last couple of days of people saying, wait

2019
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 1: a minute, there's this weird language within the WNBA rules

2020
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: of when a player's out that they're still eligible in

2021
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: the postseason, and that means that Caitlin Clark can still play,

2022
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,440
Speaker 1: especially if they get in the finals, et cetera, et cetera.

2023
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, I.

2024
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 12: Don't know anything about that language. I haven't had one

2025
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 12: thought on that. I have not seen anything about that.

2026
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 12: So it's the first time I'm hearing it, you know.

2027
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 11: But no, I mean, Kaitlin.

2028
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 12: Clark is out.

2029
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,520
Speaker 11: Kayln Clark is again.

2030
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:34,679
Speaker 12: Priority long term health and wellness, making sure that she's

2031
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 12: ready to go and ready to be healthy for our

2032
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 12: team a year from now, well not a year from now,

2033
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 12: but for next season.

2034
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: Correct, So she is. There is no situation where she

2035
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: would play in the remainder of this year, regardless of

2036
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: how many games are left.

2037
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, I cannot foresee. I don't like to

2038
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 12: use the words always and never, but there's not a

2039
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 12: situation that I could could absolutely foresee.

2040
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 1: Fair Somebody asked me this question, which I think is

2041
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: a good one. And I know that there's still basketball

2042
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: have to be played, and I want to get into,

2043
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, before we let you go about tonight, what

2044
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: things we might anticipate. But I think it's a good question.

2045
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: When you look at the number of players that you

2046
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: have been able to utilize this year, and the players

2047
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: that were not on the roster at the beginning of

2048
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: the year that have found themselves there now because of attrition,

2049
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 1: is there one that jumps out of you where you

2050
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: say to yourself, boy, if there's a way to keep

2051
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 1: them long term and get them on the roster beyond

2052
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: just this short window, I'd love to have it. Who

2053
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: would that be?

2054
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 4: Wow?

2055
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I don't. I don't know.

2056
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 12: That's a that's a tough question, especially because pretty much,

2057
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:44,560
Speaker 12: you know, most people on our roster are going to

2058
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 12: be free agents anyway. But you know, I think the

2059
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 12: thing that we've that we've continued to learn, and I

2060
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 12: think those of us who have been in this game

2061
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 12: a long time, you know, know, is that you got

2062
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 12: to stay ready so you don't have to get ready

2063
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 12: right And you know, I think Odyssey Sims has been

2064
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 12: a difference maker for us. When she's a of and

2065
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 12: she's hunting, you know, shots and hunting opportunities at the rim,

2066
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 12: we're a different team.

2067
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 4: You know.

2068
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 12: Shay Petty is the ultimate you know, leader teammate, you know,

2069
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 12: guy who can come in and make an impact and

2070
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 12: and and a player who can make an impact in

2071
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 12: our locker room and on the sideline and aerial power

2072
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 12: staym it's like her energy to be able to come

2073
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 12: in at the point that she came in and really

2074
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 12: impact our team in that way give us some things

2075
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 12: that we needed we missed without the size that we

2076
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 12: had on the perimeter. I mean, every single one of

2077
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 12: them has played a vital role in us getting to

2078
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 12: the point you know that that we are.

2079
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 11: You know, I think it'd be tough to say if.

2080
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 12: There's one that you absolutely, you know, have to have

2081
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,759
Speaker 12: because they've all been so important to what we're doing.

2082
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: How have you changed as a coach from the last time,

2083
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, over the just the course of it's hard

2084
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,759
Speaker 1: to believe that it was what ten years ago before

2085
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: you came back to coach this franchise. When you look

2086
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: at where you guys are now and some of the

2087
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: things you've had to navigate, you've handled that differently now

2088
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 1: than you would have said ten years ago in what way,

2089
01:41:59,640 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: if at all?

2090
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 12: Well, I think number one, you know, life experience. You

2091
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 12: understand that, uh, you got to play the hand that

2092
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 12: you're dealt, number one. But number two, you know, maintain perspective,

2093
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 12: keep it in perspective.

2094
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 11: So maybe ten.

2095
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 12: Years ago, you know, I would have been caught up

2096
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,520
Speaker 12: in in what we don't have instead of really reprising

2097
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 12: and rethinking about what we do have and how we

2098
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 12: can make that work.

2099
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 11: You know.

2100
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 12: I think the other thing is is just learning that

2101
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 12: that I have to adjust to what our team needs

2102
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 12: from us, and whether that's you know, energy, whether that's

2103
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 12: you know, being a being a hype man, whether that's

2104
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 12: you know, as much as x's and o's, it's also

2105
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 12: about presentation and production, and what they feel from me

2106
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,640
Speaker 12: is what as much as what they see from me.

2107
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 12: And so you know that different players need different things,

2108
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 12: and so I think my ability to adjust and be

2109
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 12: flexible to what they respond to as opposed to just

2110
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 12: being rigid and how I do things, I think that

2111
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 12: that's changed, and I think it impacts different players in

2112
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 12: different ways, you know, And and certainly I think you

2113
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 12: know from my standpoint, learning what that is and and

2114
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 12: and and it's been different at various points throughout the

2115
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 12: year too, and being flexible and being able to adjust

2116
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 12: to that. But I think more than anything, you know,

2117
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 12: it's just understanding that that we've got to control what

2118
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 12: we can control and how we put one foot in

2119
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 12: front of the other and how we approach the day

2120
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 12: to day in terms of putting the players that we

2121
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 12: have on the floor in the position to be success

2122
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 12: be successful. And you know, maybe ten years ago I

2123
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 12: might got I might have got caught up in some

2124
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 12: of those things that we couldn't control and have not

2125
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 12: been or would not have been able to lead a

2126
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 12: group like this, uh in the way that I am now.

2127
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 1: And the response that you would like to see tonight

2128
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 1: in terms of what's going to tell you early on

2129
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: how the night's going to go would be what from

2130
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: your team?

2131
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 12: I want to see it's be aggressive. I want to

2132
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 12: see us attack of pain. I want to see us

2133
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 12: get to the rim, get to the foul line. I

2134
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 12: don't want to see hesitation and taking shots in decision making.

2135
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 11: I want to see you know, active.

2136
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 12: And aggressive, you know, dictating on the defensive end of

2137
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 12: the floor. I want to see that energy. I want

2138
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 12: to see that attention to detail. I want to see

2139
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 12: that fire, competitive fire that our team has shown, you know,

2140
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,640
Speaker 12: all season long. Look, I mean the reality is the

2141
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 12: pressures not on us, right like we I want them

2142
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 12: to go out and I want them to play hard.

2143
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 12: I want them to play together. I want them to

2144
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 12: play free.

2145
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: It's pretty special, though, isn't it. I Mean, it's an

2146
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: awesome night outside. It's a great sports calendar, it's a

2147
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 1: great time in Indianapolis. Chad by Cannon talked yesterday about

2148
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: the fact that winning has become contagious amongst the franchises

2149
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 1: in this town and collegiately and everything else. It's going

2150
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 1: to be a pretty big atmosphere down there tonight. I

2151
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: know you've got to be excited about it.

2152
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 12: I'm absolutely excited. You know, this city has been waiting

2153
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 12: a long time to have playoff games in our home

2154
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 12: arena in the WNBA calendar and w NBA season, and

2155
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 12: now being able to do it in the semi finals

2156
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 12: is a huge opportunity.

2157
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 11: We know that they're gonna, they're going to show up,

2158
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 11: We know that they're going.

2159
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 12: To show out, and we're gonna we're gonna lean on them,

2160
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 12: you know, to give us that added edge, to give

2161
01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:59,440
Speaker 12: us that added adrenaline tonight.

2162
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: Coach step I appreciate it as always. We look forward

2163
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: to talking to you again. All right. All right, that's

2164
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: the luck to night, Coach Stephanie White. Game number three

2165
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: tonight between the Fever and the Las Vegas Aces. And

2166
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's an important aspect of it,

2167
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 1: just the aggression, you know, having to come out set

2168
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: a tone early for the Fever and we shall see

2169
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 1: what happens with that. I think the same can be

2170
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 1: said truthfully for the Colts coming up with the Rams.

2171
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: We'll give our predictions, uh before we end the show,

2172
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: and we hand it off to John on what we

2173
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: think may happen there. We have not talked much about

2174
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: the college slate of games. I think for Indiana, an

2175
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 1: interesting matchup in Iowa just because of the fact that

2176
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, you keep saying to yourself, Okay, well you know,

2177
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 1: let's let's test Indiana this week. Maybe Illinois wasn't as

2178
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: good as we thought. Let's see what happens now in

2179
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: Iowa in a tough place to play at Kenning Stadium. Eddie,

2180
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't see with that group and the way they're playing,

2181
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 1: and there's and it starts with Kurtti. I mean, it

2182
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: really does. A year ago, you kept waiting for this

2183
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 1: reality to kick in for Indiana before you finally it

2184
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: finally came to the epiphany of maybe the reality is that,

2185
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: in fact, this is who they are. They are this

2186
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 1: good right and so, and they are you know, a

2187
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: team that doesn't shoot themselves in the foot. And it

2188
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 1: wasn't until you got into and I realize at Ohio State,

2189
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: you know that game, although I thought in the first

2190
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: half they looked pretty strong, and then obviously Ohio State

2191
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 1: just the overall depth of Ohio State pulled away the

2192
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame game. I think Notre Dame probably could have

2193
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,760
Speaker 1: won that even more handling than they did, but keep

2194
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 1: in mind, I think that was the closest college football

2195
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: playoff game that took place. But you know that the

2196
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: way that Signetti carries that team, you want to talk

2197
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 1: about aggressive, that's kind of what they are.

2198
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 4: Right.

2199
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: They come out and they they get after you, but

2200
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 1: then they just do not let up, and before you

2201
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: know what, you're down seventeen. You're world hurt. There's no

2202
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 1: reason to believe that that confidence doesn't continue in Iowa.

2203
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 2: It's the level of preparation throughout the course of the

2204
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 2: week in the business and professional approach that Kurt Signetty

2205
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 2: has that results in his team's being so successful. Yeah,

2206
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 2: he doesn't put up with any bs. It makes sure

2207
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 2: to buy into every single player. He coaches every single

2208
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 2: player throughout the course of the weekend, even if they're

2209
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 2: in these blowout games like they were to start the

2210
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 2: season and against Illinois, there's always something that he finds

2211
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: to coach, whether you're a starter, whether you're a backup,

2212
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 2: and he's going to make sure that every single thing

2213
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 2: is discussed and every single thing is prepared for throughout

2214
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 2: the course of the weekend. This week will be a

2215
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 2: bit of a different test for them. In comparison, to

2216
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 2: Illinois just because of how gritty and tough and physical

2217
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 2: Iowa is. I You struggled at points last year with

2218
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,679
Speaker 2: just overall physicality in those two losses that you mentioned

2219
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 2: between Ohio State and Notre Dame. So this could be

2220
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,839
Speaker 2: a solitize for as they prepare to take on Oregon

2221
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 2: after the bye week. So that is the one thing

2222
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 2: that's good for i U is that Oregon doesn't follow

2223
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,560
Speaker 2: this game, so it can't be considered the quote unquote

2224
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 2: trap game. So they can go out take care of

2225
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 2: business against Iowa, have a week off to study some

2226
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 2: extra film on the Ducks, and then be prepared to

2227
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:16,679
Speaker 2: go out.

2228
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: West produce taking on Idaho Lower East. So they will

2229
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: be back in action next week. Let me see what

2230
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 1: they got after Idaho Lower East. Illinois pretty taken on

2231
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: Illinois next week. They're on a bye week this week.

2232
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Idle as they used I don't know if they still

2233
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 1: do that. It used to be at the bottommeter screen

2234
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: when they would roll the scores and if a team

2235
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 1: was off, instead of BUYE, it would say idle.

2236
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: When ESPN does their top I think they do like

2237
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 2: a top ten graphic on like the Saturday Night game

2238
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 2: on ABC, and if one of those top ten teams

2239
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 2: is not playing, it's his idol.

2240
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: It does, say idle, it does, okay, and then no

2241
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: to adame taken on Arkansas. I was surprised by this.

2242
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: The most surprising thing to me about Notre Dame and Arkansas.

2243
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 2: What is the spread for that game? That's a good question.

2244
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 1: It's in Arkansas, right, yese too, and so they all

2245
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: say down there during the games. I'm going to guess, boy,

2246
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 1: that's a good question. What's the spread? We're gonna test

2247
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 1: and see how strong I am on my Jimmy the

2248
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 1: Greek skills here, I'm gonna say Notre Dame by seven

2249
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: and a half. Boy, I have no idea. So if

2250
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm way off, just tell me you're a field goal

2251
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 1: off ten and a half, four and a half. Okay, Yeah,

2252
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

2253
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 6: You know.

2254
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting to me. Number one, I was stunned

2255
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 1: to see these two teams have never played. I would

2256
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: have guessed for certain, you know, like in the early

2257
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: seventies and the Cotton Bowl they would have played or

2258
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 1: you know whatever. Right, But I think the thing Arkansas

2259
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 1: is tricky. I was talking about this with Jason Hammer

2260
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: because he's a big ten A Sea fan, and they've

2261
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 1: got Mississippi State this weekend, and I was saying, you know,

2262
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about an Arkansas is that sometimes Arkansas

2263
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 1: can be tricky for a Tennessee or a Georgia or

2264
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: an Alabama or a Texas because when they've got Arkansas

2265
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 1: on their schedule, it's surrounded by a Tennessee or an

2266
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: Alabama or a Georgia or a Texas. So you kind

2267
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 1: of overlook Arkansas and they're not They're not incompetent, right,

2268
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a decent program. Decent now they got

2269
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 1: new coach. I think they have a new coach.

2270
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 2: No, Sam Pittman still there.

2271
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry. Mississippi State is the one that has

2272
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 1: a new coach. We're talking about Missipi State as well.

2273
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 1: But but when you look at Arkansas for not tre Dame,

2274
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: who they do have a better schedule this year than

2275
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: in most years. And it's not their fault that Boise

2276
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 1: States I think a little down. But this game's kind

2277
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 1: of been one of them that's jumped out at you

2278
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: on their schedule of you know, yes, they had the

2279
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: big two to start out with the two games able

2280
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 1: with with Miami and A and M but then they

2281
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: were well aware of Arkansas. So I don't know that

2282
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,879
Speaker 1: you overlook Arkansas like you like some of the SEC

2283
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: teams kind of do. And that's where Arkansas can sneak

2284
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 1: up and be dangerous for you. It's a tough place

2285
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 1: to play, and I don't know much about the way

2286
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 1: they play this year, but I do think that the

2287
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 1: Irish are very very good. And I mean that's I'm

2288
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: stating the obvious here. They're a top twenty five team

2289
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 1: even with those two losses. I just I think they

2290
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: have they have two, not one, but two dynamic backs

2291
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: that if they get a lead, they just become tough

2292
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 1: to play against.

2293
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 2: You're talking about, yeah, which Darien Price and Jeremiah Love.

2294
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 1: And Price has been to this point, I think more

2295
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 1: dynamic than Love. Love has been such a good back

2296
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 1: over the course of his time there.

2297
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's just so much focus on whenever

2298
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Loves in the game, like that is the one

2299
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 2: guy you cannot.

2300
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: Let You're right. But Price, though Eddie his ability he

2301
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: had a run, Price did against do where his ability

2302
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: to cut and immediately pop to the outside. To me,

2303
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that guy is in fact different.

2304
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying I mean, love is a

2305
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 1: you know what love is to Denian Price. Better play

2306
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 1: at quarterback also than you would expect for a team

2307
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 1: that has a quarterback that young.

2308
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,759
Speaker 2: Ja Darien Price has five rushing touchdowns on twenty seven carries.

2309
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 2: Every fifth time he's carrying the football, he's in the end.

2310
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 1: Zone, and some of those are I mean, like you know,

2311
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 1: we're not talking like one yard plunging. He's averaging seven

2312
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:32,640
Speaker 1: yards of carry. Marion and Indiana Wesley and that's at

2313
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 1: one oh five I believe.

2314
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: Tomorrow that's a big one.

2315
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 1: That is a big one over at Ascension Saint Vincent

2316
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 1: Field Marion on the near west side and Indiana Wesley

2317
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 1: and has had their number. I mean they've beaten him

2318
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 1: four times in a row. And that's that's a matchup

2319
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 1: of two teams both ranked within the top twenty in

2320
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 1: their division. Where is you, Indy this weekend.

2321
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

2322
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up right now. Did you go to

2323
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 1: a lot of get you did the games right? Did

2324
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,120
Speaker 1: you call the games and you were there?

2325
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 2: I sure did?

2326
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: They are they have a conference game obviously that goes

2327
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 1: without saying right, I'm pulling it up right now. Your

2328
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 1: you Indie Greyhounds. You're kind of disappointing me here as I.

2329
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 2: Love I love this press box and I love that stadium.

2330
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: They are in Truman, Kirksville, Missouri. You would assume that

2331
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 1: Truman would be named after who, Eddie h I don't know, Jake,

2332
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 1: you tell me. I'm going to assume that would be

2333
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: Harry S. Truman since he was from Independence, Missouri and

2334
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 1: this is in Kirksville, Missouri, which I believe is the

2335
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 1: Saint Louis area. I think, Yes, am I correct, Yes,

2336
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: you're correct, But I'm going to assume that Truman is

2337
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:41,759
Speaker 1: named after Harry S. Truman, and the s I believe

2338
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 1: is just s. Pretty sure there's no middle name there.

2339
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: For what that's worth. That is two thirty tomorrow and

2340
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 1: the Hound's coming in off a forty seven nineteen win

2341
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:53,719
Speaker 1: over McKendree.

2342
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 2: They was a homecoming game for three and one.

2343
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 1: Were you there? I was not refered.

2344
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 2: No, not this year, really, not this year. Now two

2345
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 2: years in a row.

2346
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 1: They somebody asked if you would be honored at homecoming?

2347
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 1: They said, nah, he'd probably get too big headed, and

2348
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 1: they said, well, obviously he's already gone through that once.

2349
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,839
Speaker 1: Isn't that what happened there? Yeah, it is a Friday.

2350
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 1: It is approaching the bottom of the two o'clock hour.

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Speaker 1: You know what that means. It means time for a

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Speaker 1: Forty nine dollars heart scan. I actually just had my

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Speaker 1: blood pressure taken. I used to do this daily. I'm

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Speaker 1: always uncomfortable with the tightness on the cuff, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, but got back into the swing of

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Speaker 1: doing it daily. And I know that all of us

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Speaker 1: have a general idea what those numbers mean. But also

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Speaker 1: if you are experiencing issue with blood pressure, what can

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Speaker 1: be done aside from just say medication that might be

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Speaker 1: able to help out your blood pressure And just how

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Speaker 1: important is it. We're going to have that discussion coming

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Speaker 1: up in just a minute, but a reminder again forty

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Speaker 1: nine dollars heart scan heart scan from Franciscan Health. It

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Speaker 1: is the first step towards It's that piece of mind

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Speaker 1: when it comes to your heart and making sure that

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Speaker 1: you are on the right path towards cardiovascular health. In particular,

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Speaker 1: if you're over the age of forty, if you've dealt

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Speaker 1: with obesity, if you are a current or former smoker,

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Speaker 1: any of those. The Franciscan Health forty nine dollars heart

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Speaker 1: scan is so important and of course you can pay

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Speaker 1: out of pocket. When it comes to the heart scan,

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Speaker 1: it is not invasive. It takes about ten or fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you've got the appointment time and then get in there.

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Speaker 1: But it is not a hard thing to do, and

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Speaker 1: with it comes a peace of mind. And with each

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Speaker 1: and every heart scan from Franciscan you get a heart

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Speaker 1: health risk assessment, which is important as well. Gives you

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Speaker 1: that reading of how much calcium is in your heart,

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Speaker 1: and then you get kind of a roadmap on your

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Speaker 1: cardiovascular health called eight three three two three eight zero

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Speaker 1: six eight eight. That's eight three three two three eight

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Speaker 1: zero six eight eight. Jake, I'm not going to remember

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Speaker 1: eight three eight or eight three three two three eight

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Speaker 1: zero six eight eight.

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Speaker 2: You can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. Yeah, that's why you can always go

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Speaker 1: to Franciscanhealth dot org, slash screening bundles or simply google

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Speaker 1: heartscin and Franciscan. It's that simple but important conversation about

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Speaker 1: those numbers that can be a little bit tricky. Next, Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's a Friday, bottom of the two o'clock hour, and

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Speaker 1: you know what that means. It is time for a

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Speaker 1: Franciscan Health feel good good for the Heart Friday that

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Speaker 1: we do on the program, and we also in that

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Speaker 1: capacity talk with different members from Franciscan Health about heart health.

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Speaker 1: And this is I think today a really important conversation

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Speaker 1: with doctor Stephen Cook that we're going to have here,

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Speaker 1: who is a non invasive cardiologist with Franciscan Health, and

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Speaker 1: because we're talking about something that really I think impacts

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Speaker 1: and is relatable to, at least by term about everybody.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about blood pressure and everybody knows, yeah, okay, Jake,

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Speaker 1: I go to the doctor and they put that thing

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Speaker 1: in my arm and it's uncomfortable for a minute, and

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Speaker 1: then I get my blood pressure. But what exactly does

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Speaker 1: it mean? And when do you know that you might

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Speaker 1: be in a danger zone. We'll get to that and

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Speaker 1: more with doctor Stephen Cook, who joins us on the show. Doctor,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great, Jake, Thanks thanks for asking.

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Speaker 1: H I want to begin with this. I think all

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Speaker 1: of us know that when our blood pressure is taken,

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Speaker 1: it gives two numbers, and oftentimes one of those numbers

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Speaker 1: seems to be more important than the other, and we

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Speaker 1: want to make sure they're not too high. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know that many of us really truly understand what

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Speaker 1: is being measured in Layman terms. For those of us

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Speaker 1: that had to take algebra seven times, can you explain

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Speaker 1: what blood pressure exactly is that you're looking for?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, just to put it in you know, Layman's terms

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Speaker 13: or in general terminology. You know, blood pressure is simply

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Speaker 13: the force of blood pressure or blood pushing against the

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Speaker 13: walls of the arteries or the vessels in our body.

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Speaker 13: And you know this is just a really simple indicator

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Speaker 13: of our overall cardiovascular or our heart health.

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Speaker 6: And looking at those two.

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Speaker 13: Numbers, right, there's a top number and a bottom number.

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Speaker 13: At top number, we're talking about systolic pressure. This is

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Speaker 13: the pressure when our heart is contracting, and that bottom

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Speaker 13: number we refer to as diastolic pressure, and that's the

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Speaker 13: pressure when our heart is relaxing.

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Speaker 6: And that gives us a lot of information when people.

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Speaker 13: Are just even walking through the door into the cardiology clinic.

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Speaker 1: Dumb question, But is one of those two numbers more

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Speaker 1: important than the other or are we looking essentially at

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Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty level of importance in terms of

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Speaker 1: the reading.

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Speaker 13: No, I would say both those numbers give us a

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Speaker 13: lot of equal information from both numbers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And with that, doctor, let's begin with this for

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Speaker 1: those that are experiencing high blood pressure. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we're looking at it and saying, man, you know, I

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Speaker 1: need to make sure this number is lower. I think

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Speaker 1: obviously we know that, you know, not smoking would be

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Speaker 1: the first thing that one would want. But what are

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Speaker 1: the little things that maybe people don't even realize that

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Speaker 1: they can be doing to help their blood pressure? That

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Speaker 1: is an everyday thing that many people are unaware of.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, so really simple things that we can do, right.

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Speaker 13: I. You know, I always tell patients who have a

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Speaker 13: history of high blood pressure or are newly diagnosed with

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01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 13: blood pressure, even simple exercise, right. And what I like

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Speaker 13: about exercise It also helps us to lose weight. And

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Speaker 13: those are two really important things that kind of can

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Speaker 13: help us reduce our blood pressure. And there are patients

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Speaker 13: that you know, young patients, young adults that really don't

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Speaker 13: want to be taking medications or maybe there are other

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Speaker 13: adults that are on many medications and don't want to

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Speaker 13: add another medication to their regimen.

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Speaker 6: So you know, even simple.

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Speaker 13: Exercise jogging are really effective in lowering blood pressures. And

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Speaker 13: even I think about people who you know, sit all

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Speaker 13: day at their job. You know, even lower intensity actual

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Speaker 13: like walking that may interrupt their sedentary time throughout the

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Speaker 13: day can help them, you know, reduce that blood pressure.

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Speaker 13: Other things that are helpful. Looking at how much salt

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Speaker 13: you take in through the day. You know, the average

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Speaker 13: American takes in about three point four grams of sodium

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Speaker 13: or salt per day.

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Speaker 6: This is terrible. Salt and water are.

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Speaker 13: Best friends, and that increased water increases your blood pressure.

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Speaker 13: So again, look at how much salt you're taking in.

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Speaker 13: These are simple, simple things to do. Exercise, losing weight,

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Speaker 13: watching your salt intake. Those are just simple things that

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Speaker 13: we could all be kind of, you know, thoughtful about

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Speaker 13: during our day to day activities.

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Speaker 1: What is a good target range and has that number

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Speaker 1: you know, with some things, doctor, the as advancements go

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Speaker 1: on or as time goes on, perhaps the measuring sticks

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Speaker 1: are what we think is a safe range. You know,

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Speaker 1: at one period, maybe twenty years later that does change.

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Speaker 1: Has there been an evolution in terms of blood pressure

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Speaker 1: of target numbers? Are we pretty static in terms of

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Speaker 1: what are considered to be the ideal blood pressure measuring?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 13: These guidelines blood pressure guidelines for the prevention and evaluation

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Speaker 13: and management for high blood pressure or hypertension are constantly

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Speaker 13: under revision. They were just published or edited again just

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Speaker 13: a month ago, okay, and they're getting stricter and stricter.

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Speaker 13: So the definition of normal blood pressure is less than

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Speaker 13: one twenty over eighty and even elevations in blood pressure

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Speaker 13: is now between that top number one twenty to one

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Speaker 13: twenty nine. Patients who have stage one high blood pressure,

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Speaker 13: what we call stage one hypertension is now defined as

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Speaker 13: a top number of one thirty to one thirty nine

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Speaker 13: and that bottom number or a diastolic blood pressure.

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Speaker 6: Of eighty to eighty nine.

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Speaker 13: And patients with really high blood pressure, what we define

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Speaker 13: now is stage two is that top number or systolic

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Speaker 13: blood pressure greater than one point forty and a diostolic

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Speaker 13: blood pressure greater than ninety. And so we use these

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Speaker 13: different categories to help us our primary care doctors cardiologists

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Speaker 13: to define who really would benefit from blood pressure.

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Speaker 6: Medications. So it's getting more and more strict today.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Stephen Cook is our guest. He is a cardiologist

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Speaker 1: with Franciscan Health. We're talking about blood pressure. Doctor. If

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Speaker 1: your heart had eyes and it could see your plate

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Speaker 1: as your let's say you've got a big glass of water,

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Speaker 1: and your heart's happy about that. Your heart is happiest

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Speaker 1: when it sees from a blood pressure standpoint. It looks

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Speaker 1: down at the plate and it sees you about to

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Speaker 1: eat something, and the heart rejoices because it knows the

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Speaker 1: blood pressure is going to read out a good number

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Speaker 1: because you are ingesting on the regular basis what.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, So if I had to choose, you know, so

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Speaker 13: if I have a patient with pretty high blood pressure, sure,

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Speaker 13: you know one of the things that we would recommend.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, first it's going to be a low salt or.

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Speaker 13: A low sodium diet, a diet that is actually low

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Speaker 13: in fat, high in fruits and vegetables, and a higher

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Speaker 13: protein diet. This can really remodel that patient to kind

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Speaker 13: of have a lower blood pressure. The other thing that

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Speaker 13: I recommend, this is really difficult to do, is limiting your.

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Speaker 6: Alcohol intake as well.

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Speaker 13: And this is recommended by both the CDC and the

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Speaker 13: American Heart Association. For women, it's drinking, you know, less

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Speaker 13: than one drink per day, and for men, drinking less

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Speaker 13: than two alcoholic beverages a day. Now, let me clarify this.

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Speaker 13: This is really for our audience. This is for what

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Speaker 13: is an alcoholic beverage. For beer, it's less than twelve ounces.

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Speaker 13: For wine that's five ounces, and for distilled spirits that's

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Speaker 13: one point five ounces. This is really minimizing your alcohol

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Speaker 13: intake and that should show you or demonstrate to all

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Speaker 13: of us, how significant alcohol can increase our blood pressure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then what about I'm going to ask a

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Speaker 1: couple of things doctor that I've heard can be good

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Speaker 1: for your heart and for blood pressure. And I want

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Speaker 1: you to tell me fact, fiction or indifferent. Is that fair?

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Speaker 6: You got it?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Yogurt, so that is fact.

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Speaker 6: That's excellent for high blood pressure in your diet. Okay, oatmeal,

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Speaker 6: I would also say fact for that as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this one is not necessarily my favorite, but I've

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Speaker 1: heard it, and I'm curious. Beat juice, I'll.

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Speaker 6: Go with fact.

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Speaker 4: Fact.

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Speaker 6: There's some ant so beats is antioxidants. So that's going

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Speaker 6: to be good for.

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Speaker 13: Your overall cardiovascular out as well.

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Speaker 1: Any role in terms of you know, obviously, if somebody

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Speaker 1: has found out that they have high blood pressure, are

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Speaker 1: there times doctor where you find that it is strictly

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Speaker 1: genetic with somebody and the odds are just stacked against you,

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Speaker 1: and then it becomes even more important to make sure

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Speaker 1: that you are adhering to everything we're talking about.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, there's probably you know, you'll have patients

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02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:12,440
Speaker 13: that you'll meet where you'll take a history and they'll

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02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 13: say to you, you know, both my mom and dad

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02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 13: had high blood pressure, my sisters and brothers have high

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02:05:17,480 --> 02:05:21,440
Speaker 13: blood pressure. So in that scenario, you're certain there's got

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Speaker 13: to be an underlying genetic component to this as well.

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Speaker 13: So I would be remiss if I did not take

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Speaker 13: a family history, because you may find out that there's

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02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:33,800
Speaker 13: really nothing else going on. Or you'll meet a younger patient,

2565
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 13: somebody in their twenties or thirties, and they just come

2566
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 13: in with this very resistant, difficult to treat high blood

2567
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 13: pressure and then you find out, wow, everyone in their

2568
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 13: family has high blood pressure as well, So very important

2569
02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 13: to take a family history.

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Speaker 1: Okay, before we let you go doctor Stephen Cook is

2571
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:52,240
Speaker 1: our guest. He's a cardiologist at Franciscan Health, and we're

2572
02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:54,480
Speaker 1: talking about blood pressure a couple of other things here.

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02:05:55,600 --> 02:06:00,160
Speaker 1: Number one, and that is somebody that may be experiencing

2574
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 1: a problem with high blood pressure but doesn't necessarily know it.

2575
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 1: You know, they have that silent killer within them because

2576
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:10,720
Speaker 1: they're not getting their blood pressure checked. Are there symptoms

2577
02:06:10,720 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 1: that may tell them in fact, this is something that

2578
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:14,280
Speaker 1: they need to take a look towards.

2579
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is tricky, right because you bring up a

2580
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:20,560
Speaker 13: really good point that this has always been described as

2581
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 13: the silent killer because most of us have had high

2582
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:28,080
Speaker 13: blood pressure and we we don't recognize these symptoms, you know.

2583
02:06:28,040 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 6: So there can be some subtle symptoms, whether.

2584
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 13: Or not it's chronic headaches, fatigue, shortness of breath.

2585
02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 6: Some patients can.

2586
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 13: Show up with chest pain, as you know, their first

2587
02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:48,160
Speaker 13: symptoms for more poorly controlled high blood pressure and shortness

2588
02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:50,280
Speaker 13: of breath may come along those lines as well.

2589
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:52,040
Speaker 6: So those may be some more.

2590
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 13: Symptoms that are present for long standing hypertension that needs

2591
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 13: to be addressed by either your primary care doctor or

2592
02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 13: if the primary care doctor wants to refer to cardiology.

2593
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 13: Now patients can show up with hypertensive emergencies where they

2594
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:10,640
Speaker 13: show up with real severe headaches with confusion, chest pain

2595
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:14,400
Speaker 13: and tightness and weakness. So those are some really alarm

2596
02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:15,520
Speaker 13: signals to really look.

2597
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:16,160
Speaker 6: Up for as well.

2598
02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 1: Once somebody goes on medication, if in fact it gets

2599
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:22,120
Speaker 1: that point, Let's say they you know, they have those symptoms,

2600
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:24,600
Speaker 1: they go in, they find out they have high blood pressure,

2601
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 1: they go onto a medication, I know, their medications for this.

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02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:30,960
Speaker 1: Does the does the medication just regulate somebody to the

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02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,040
Speaker 1: point where things are stabilized and then they go off

2604
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:36,880
Speaker 1: the medication or more often than not, is medication a

2605
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 1: long term thing?

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02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:42,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, I would think for most patients, medications become more

2607
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:47,600
Speaker 13: of a long term, a long term issue. I think that,

2608
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 13: and patients become better controlled once they're on medications and

2609
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 13: often feel better.

2610
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 6: I think that if patients.

2611
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 13: You know, we see a lot of people on weight

2612
02:07:56,360 --> 02:07:59,879
Speaker 13: loss drugs today, you know, will go VI triseeppetite, ozembic,

2613
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:02,800
Speaker 13: things like that. If you have a patient who has

2614
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 13: a dramatic improvement in their lifestyle changes, whether it's through

2615
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 13: exercise or weight loss, and then you see them back

2616
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:12,400
Speaker 13: about six to twelve months later and their blood pressure

2617
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 13: is now approaching those great what I call green light

2618
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:18,400
Speaker 13: goals one twenty over eighty. That's when you can have

2619
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:23,320
Speaker 13: a good shared decision making discussion with your patient to say,

2620
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 13: should I start reducing.

2621
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 6: These medications because you can see patients really have dramatic improvements.

2622
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 13: As long as you have close monitoring of those patients

2623
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 13: with their outpatient blood pressure monitoring, I think it is

2624
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:38,200
Speaker 13: reasonable to start with drawing drugs in the approachiate in

2625
02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 13: the appropriate setting.

2626
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: Just remember this, folks as you're listening to doctor Stephen Cook.

2627
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 1: If you were deciding to cook tonight for dinner or

2628
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:47,520
Speaker 1: over the course of this weekend, First and foremost, make

2629
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 1: sure that you are reduced in the amount of sodium

2630
02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:51,640
Speaker 1: that you're putting into your food. That's the most important thing.

2631
02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 1: Plenty of water and then everything else that we talked

2632
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 1: about in terms of those dietary things as well. Let

2633
02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 1: meet your alcohol and no small looking et cetera. Doctor,

2634
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 1: It is all great information. It is stuff I think

2635
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 1: that resonates with a lot of people and it's a

2636
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:08,960
Speaker 1: very important discussion. So I appreciate your time today in

2637
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:12,240
Speaker 1: sharing with us everything about hypertension. Certainly have a good weekend.

2638
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 1: All right.

2639
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 6: Oh it's my pleasure you too.

2640
02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 1: Doctor Stephen Cook not invasive cardiologist for friends, Ciscan Health

2641
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 1: much appreciated. All right, we come back. We will give

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02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:23,200
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Speaker 1: Here quiring company on a Friday, Berenger's Tavern is where

2646
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:37,240
Speaker 1: you will find John. It is time for the crossover chat,

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Speaker 1: official Hell Heating and Cooling dealer. John, huge weekend in sports,

2651
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna have a lot of fun

2652
02:09:50,120 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 1: talking about it over the next couple of hours. What's

2653
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:53,040
Speaker 1: lined up on the big show?

2654
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:55,800
Speaker 5: No, we got Don Fisher, a voice of the Hoosiers,

2655
02:09:55,800 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 5: on this way to Iowa City on his birthday today. Yeah,

2656
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 5: I think Don? Yeah? Don is I think thirty years old?

2657
02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 5: Because the dude looks thirty years old. Nothing's pissed me

2658
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:10,120
Speaker 5: off over the years more than Don Fisher's looks Jake, honestly,

2659
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, you know what, the guy

2660
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:13,240
Speaker 5: doesn't age.

2661
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something. It's very uncomfortable. Okay, Yes,

2662
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 1: Don Fisher has great calves. For me to say that,

2663
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 1: what you know? You know what.

2664
02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:26,440
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, though, I think I have great calves too,

2665
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 5: So I don't feel that way. I'm just his looks

2666
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 5: as that's everybody sees that like I think. I think

2667
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 5: mike calves are pretty solid. Jake, to be cooling honest

2668
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:37,360
Speaker 5: with you, all right, I'm impressed with my own calves.

2669
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:39,880
Speaker 5: But no, but no, you look at him and then

2670
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,360
Speaker 5: the dude doesn't age, right, But happy birthday to Don Fisher.

2671
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 5: He's going to join us. I think Mike Wells is

2672
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:47,240
Speaker 5: going to return. I have no idea where that dude's

2673
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 5: been for the last two months, but he's going to

2674
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:53,600
Speaker 5: resurface Jake later on today and we get the high

2675
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:57,640
Speaker 5: school college football schedule. Coult stuff Joel a ericson to

2676
02:10:57,720 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 5: the Star. Heygen's going to be here. I've got Raiders tickets.

2677
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:03,000
Speaker 5: Have you ever been to Beringers? This is right up

2678
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 5: your alley. I know that Shannon would love this place,

2679
02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:07,720
Speaker 5: would love it.

2680
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 2: She would.

2681
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:11,680
Speaker 1: I have not been there. Enlighten me.

2682
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:16,600
Speaker 5: Oh it's well. I mean, you know, Dillinger, you drank here.

2683
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 5: You know there's the word that Capone did. It has

2684
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 5: a sign out there that says, you know, the last

2685
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 5: spot to eat or drink or whatever. He're out front.

2686
02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 5: I mean, this is been around here forever since seventy nine. Yeah,

2687
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:32,880
Speaker 5: eighteen seventy nine, I think so. I think lor Ingalls

2688
02:11:32,920 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 5: Wilder rolled through here once upon a time, half pint

2689
02:11:36,160 --> 02:11:41,240
Speaker 5: and had at of her own yea. Albert, Yeah, okay, Albert.

2690
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:42,920
Speaker 5: Albert talked with a list, been here.

2691
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2692
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:46,920
Speaker 1: They were strategizing how to get back at Nelly about something.

2693
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:47,280
Speaker 4: Yees.

2694
02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:50,200
Speaker 5: Honestly, Albert didn't have a list. He just had his

2695
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:54,400
Speaker 5: nose stuff full of cotton or something all the time. Awesome,

2696
02:11:54,440 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 5: Albert aur I always talk like this, Hey, Paul and

2697
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:59,840
Speaker 5: I go kad lord man, blow your nose. Brothers, come

2698
02:11:59,840 --> 02:12:00,200
Speaker 5: on on.

2699
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 1: Albert, job, what happens on Sunday in Los Angeles?

2700
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:07,560
Speaker 5: The Colts lose? What do you think you like that?

2701
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 5: You know what they lose on Sunday?

2702
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,320
Speaker 1: It's hard to argue that. But then I keep going

2703
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:12,720
Speaker 1: back on it, and I'm like, you know what They're

2704
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,040
Speaker 1: three and zer at this point, and I'm not overly

2705
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:17,680
Speaker 1: impressed with who the Rams have beaten. And I think

2706
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:19,640
Speaker 1: the Colts. If the Colts don't turn the ball over,

2707
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:21,360
Speaker 1: I think the Colts win. I'm going twenty four to

2708
02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:23,080
Speaker 1: twenty three. Colts, Am I nuts.

2709
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:25,400
Speaker 5: Well to know you're not, because they haven't turned the

2710
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 5: ball over like at all, So you're right. If you

2711
02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:31,280
Speaker 5: do the thank you keV. If you do that, then

2712
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:33,640
Speaker 5: you're going to end up winning that game. I just

2713
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:35,800
Speaker 5: think I thought what we saw for the Rams last

2714
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:38,280
Speaker 5: week with that bad beat, I thought what we saw

2715
02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:40,960
Speaker 5: from them is one of the better teams certainly in

2716
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 5: the NFC, even in a road lost to Philadelphia right then,

2717
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 5: and can dominate that name.

2718
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2719
02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:49,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, they going to a lot of backups in there.

2720
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 5: They have some backups in the secondary as well, so

2721
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:53,960
Speaker 5: the coltsier can take advantage of it. But man, I

2722
02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:56,680
Speaker 5: just think going off of that loss, the way that

2723
02:12:56,760 --> 02:13:00,600
Speaker 5: went down last week in Southern California, I mean, we

2724
02:13:00,680 --> 02:13:02,400
Speaker 5: know this to be true. I mean their fan base

2725
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:05,760
Speaker 5: is going to be about as excited as a toothache,

2726
02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 5: right Normally they don't have much of one out there.

2727
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:10,560
Speaker 1: Do they know it's all people from like that's what

2728
02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, yeah, people in La Man, they're all

2729
02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:15,560
Speaker 1: from elsewhere, right, So they're there to go see their

2730
02:13:15,640 --> 02:13:19,120
Speaker 1: local team, you know, whoever is Peter Brady's favorite Peter

2731
02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:22,560
Speaker 1: Brady's favorite team though Peter Brady. Actually I don't have

2732
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:25,080
Speaker 1: another shot out, But Peter Brady invited me next year

2733
02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:26,960
Speaker 1: to in the Long Beach Race. Christopher and I invited

2734
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 1: me to go to the Brady House with him to

2735
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:31,280
Speaker 1: have pork chops and applesauce. True story, are you.

2736
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 5: Guys going to go sing in the choir together and

2737
02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:36,440
Speaker 5: be called the Canary Glee? Deacon Jones has to the

2738
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:39,520
Speaker 5: glee club, and then Deacon Jones has to defend you.

2739
02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:40,160
Speaker 4: That's right.

2740
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,440
Speaker 1: And then afterwards, if we're really lucky, Joe Nama will

2741
02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:45,280
Speaker 1: come over from my little brother and throw around in

2742
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:46,400
Speaker 1: the AstroTurf backyard.

2743
02:13:46,480 --> 02:13:50,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, can you imagine in that era, and they had

2744
02:13:50,160 --> 02:13:53,600
Speaker 5: to fearsome, forceome back then. Merlin Olsen speaking of little

2745
02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:55,280
Speaker 5: House in the Prairie was a part of that. But

2746
02:13:55,560 --> 02:14:00,120
Speaker 5: Rosie Greer, Yeah, Rosie Greer, these guys all had he

2747
02:14:00,160 --> 02:14:03,120
Speaker 5: would three of the four had major careers afterwards.

2748
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 4: I know, that.

2749
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:06,440
Speaker 5: But here's what's interesting about it. The head slap was

2750
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:09,760
Speaker 5: what Deacon Jones had is his signature move. Can you

2751
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:12,520
Speaker 5: imagine how incredibly illegal that would be today?

2752
02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:12,840
Speaker 1: Correct?

2753
02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:17,520
Speaker 5: A red slap? Yeah, he would never ever play Deacon

2754
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:20,680
Speaker 5: Jones with the head slap back then. But a guest

2755
02:14:20,680 --> 02:14:24,360
Speaker 5: appearance on The Brady Bunch, and he told Peter to

2756
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:26,280
Speaker 5: stay in the glee club. That's right, even though he

2757
02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:30,400
Speaker 5: was a canary. Lamar lundy, lamar lundy. And you know

2758
02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:33,120
Speaker 5: that Todd Meyer jumped in on that, my bad richman.

2759
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:38,160
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, John's up next. He'll be with you

2760
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:41,680
Speaker 1: until up until what time are you out there at Baringers, John?

2761
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:44,560
Speaker 5: Wow, we do a Colt's Happy Hour coming up from

2762
02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 5: six until seven. And then I just hear now that

2763
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:48,720
Speaker 5: Eddie Garrison has got to go to a wedding and

2764
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:50,920
Speaker 5: it's not doing the pregame. I don't know who the

2765
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:51,919
Speaker 5: hell is doing the pregame.

2766
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:55,120
Speaker 1: Then, Eddie, who's doing the pregame?

2767
02:14:55,840 --> 02:14:56,400
Speaker 2: John Nolan?

2768
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:59,200
Speaker 1: John Nolan, the voice of the doing the pregame.

2769
02:14:59,680 --> 02:15:02,680
Speaker 5: Let me tell you this, he's not tonight Eddie Garrison is.

2770
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:05,080
Speaker 1: So you know, all right, John, we'll throw it out

2771
02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:06,800
Speaker 1: to you in a couple of minutes here enjoy all right,

2772
02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:11,720
Speaker 1: John from Berengers, Thanks again, Stephanie White, thanks to Jeff George,

2773
02:15:11,720 --> 02:15:14,080
Speaker 1: thanks to Kevin Bowen, and thanks for thank you for

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02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:15,600
Speaker 1: listening today to Querying Company.