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Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan Morning

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Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 1: The Fan all controversy. Here are they cornflies? Are they

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Speaker 1: sweat bees? Are they hover flies? They appear to be

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Speaker 1: some variation of all of the above. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: exactly what the ones are here in Indiana, but they

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Speaker 1: all seem to be in North America, and they all

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Speaker 1: seem to just be harmless. And in the way, that's

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Speaker 2: Big thing, because I thought they were bees, and I

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Speaker 2: thought I was gonna get stung, probably ten times over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days out there in the hot sun.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, I think my focus more on the players

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Speaker 2: rather than the bees, and so I'll take that or over,

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Speaker 2: you know, hopefully the pain of getting stung. I'll only

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Speaker 2: been stung once in my life, and once was enough.

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Speaker 1: Now, I think we were talking about that a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I had took a long time ago,

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Speaker 1: took a drink of one of those orange crushes and

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Speaker 1: there was a bee inside of it and got it

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Speaker 1: right on the top of the mouth. That was not

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Speaker 1: a good Everybody was out how all the things take place,

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Speaker 1: and it was almost it felt like a little bit

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Speaker 1: except for not being under the lights JB. It felt

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Speaker 1: like another controlled scrimmage to a certain extent for Colts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of team periods yesterday, which is obviously

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Speaker 2: my favorite type of practice to watch. I don't really

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Speaker 2: enjoy watching any practice, to be honest, but if I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna watch it, I would like to see the closest

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Speaker 2: thing to real football, which is what we saw yesterday.

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Speaker 2: And despite a couple of guys being out Alec Pierce

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Speaker 2: wasn't available yesterday, he got the growing injury going on.

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Speaker 2: Nick Cross wasn't out there. I did think that one

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Speaker 2: of the highlights of yesterday, and Kevin can probably speak

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Speaker 2: to this. Hunter Wohler, I think had a couple of

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Speaker 2: and you know, Leu and Arumo. After practice made us

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Speaker 2: temporary expectations a little bit. He was saying, hey, he's

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Speaker 2: got a long way to go. But I do think

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Speaker 2: that Hunter Waller was kind of proven that he can

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Speaker 2: be perhaps more than just a special teams guy and

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Speaker 2: someone you can trust or perhaps rely on if you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my eyes and ears kind of perked up a

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Speaker 3: little bit when it was late in practice and during

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Speaker 3: one of the team reps, Tyler Warren split out wide

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Speaker 3: what way wide, like almost outside of the numbers and

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Speaker 3: said him was Hunter Wooler. Woalder is getting the start

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Speaker 3: right now because, as James said, Nick Cross dealing with

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Speaker 3: a hip injury. So it's missed the last probably three

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Speaker 3: days of practice. So yeah, draft pick versus draft pick,

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Speaker 3: first rounder versus seventh rounder. And you know, I thought

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson did the thing that you would expect a

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Speaker 3: and said, all right, I'm gonna throw it up to

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Speaker 3: my first round pick there at tight end, and he

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Speaker 3: gave Warren a fifty to fifty opportunity and Hunter Wooler

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Speaker 3: was in honestly perfect position to knock the ball away.

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Speaker 3: It was a great play by Waller down the field.

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Speaker 3: And again that was a play that you know, is

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Speaker 3: a little different than where we've seen him utilize. So

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Speaker 3: it's maybe in some sub packages he could get involved.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we've talked about him now for several weeks.

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Speaker 3: He's not just a seventh round pick. It's fighting for

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Speaker 3: a roster spot. He's literally trying to fight for a

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Speaker 3: defensive role week one against the Miami Dolphins, and I'll

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Speaker 3: be curious to see if he carves out something in

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Speaker 1: How you guys feeling about starting center at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Think Tanner Bordalini is the guy there. Yeah, right now,

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Speaker 3: I think go ahead, and you know Sharpien Spencer Schrader

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Speaker 3: know if it's full on Sharpie, but definitely in Penn,

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Speaker 3: I would put Tanner Bordalini as your center. It's unfortunate

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Speaker 3: Danny Pincer has been a little banged up here over

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Speaker 3: the last week or so, so I think that has

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Speaker 3: impacted the competition. But right now, and really in general,

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Speaker 3: with your offensive line, James, I know the secondary is

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Speaker 3: dealing with tons of injuries right now, but your O

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Speaker 3: line has arguably been the healthiest position group of any

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Speaker 3: now and there are teams dealing with tons of injuries

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Speaker 3: offensive line related. But I mean Braden Smith Smiths what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, respect to Bernard Ryman, because if I

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Speaker 2: got paid that much money, I know that's a bit

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Speaker 2: of a jinks. Stare would certainly blame him something happens.

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Speaker 2: They've never been practice jings. I actually don't know. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I only say it or when it doesn't

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Speaker 2: because I've gotten that a lot the playoffs with the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: When I said like, oh, they're gonna win this game,

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Speaker 2: people were like, you shut your mouth right now and

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Speaker 2: they will win the game. And I'm like, do you

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Speaker 2: have no faith in your team at all?

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Speaker 4: Oh, Jake was gonna drop four letter words on Kevin

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Speaker 4: every time the five hundred came right, it's gonna beautiful weather,

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Speaker 4: There's no chance for it.

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Speaker 3: Weather was beautiful, So does that mean, it wasn't a jinx.

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Speaker 3: Was it beautiful? Though it's not this year's when Jake

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Speaker 3: and I did the show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I thought you meant like this past year,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't beautiful, but okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: All right. So that's what's going on as far as

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Speaker 1: the Colts camp is concerned. Again, the Packers coming in

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Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks. And I was talking to a lot

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Speaker 1: and kind of we talked about it yesterday. Unless something

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Speaker 1: really dramatic happens, don't you kind of have to start

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, don't you at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 1: Unless Daniel Jones is just heading shoulders above him in

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Speaker 2: I could go either way. Honestly, I could see from

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Speaker 2: a fan standpoint and from a Chris ballor standpoint, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: start Anthony Richardson. He's got the upside, he was drafted

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Speaker 2: our guy. He has not proven that at all just yet. However,

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Speaker 2: then most want to give that credit for And it's

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Speaker 2: because one, he's more available than Anthony Richardson already we've

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Speaker 2: seen that throughout the off season. And then number two,

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Speaker 2: he's probably more consistent, and I think the safety factors

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Speaker 2: something we can't overlook with Daniel Jones. Yes, it might

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Speaker 2: be more boring football, but boring from Shane's perspective or

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Speaker 2: even from just the offense in general's perspective, they might

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Speaker 2: welcome that because in their minds internally, the Colts believe

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Speaker 2: that if they just get average quarterback play, and I

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Speaker 2: will put average it like, if they just think that

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Speaker 2: they have the eighteenth or seventeenth best quarterback in the league,

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Speaker 2: they'll be a playoff team. That's what they're asking for.

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Speaker 2: They're not asking for greatness, They're just asking for competency,

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Speaker 2: and Anthony has not shown that throughout the first two

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Speaker 2: years of his career at at extended rate. There's been moments,

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Speaker 2: but there hasn't been elongated moments.

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Speaker 3: James, Off of that point, I want to go back

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Speaker 3: something you brought up yesterday on the Athletic Mike Sando

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Speaker 3: had a piece on quarterback tiers. Yeah, and you brought

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Speaker 3: this up a little bit. Richardson and Jones were virtually

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Speaker 2: List you want to kick out of this. So the

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Speaker 2: list in order of these quarterbacks, it goes Daniel Jones thirty,

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco thirty one, Anthony Richson thirty two. Oh there's

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Speaker 2: your last three cults A nice.

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Speaker 3: Colt sandwich there, Yeah, serve that at the State Fair.

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Speaker 3: But I thought I need it. I thought the quotes

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Speaker 3: on Daniel Jones were interesting, and it kind of goes

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Speaker 3: back to the point that you just made. One of

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Speaker 3: these defensive coordinators that Sando interviewed goes Jones could be

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Speaker 3: like the twenty twenty four version of Sam Darnold with

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Speaker 3: the defense, running game, and the right coordinator. And when

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Speaker 3: I read that quote, I thought to myself, I feel

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Speaker 3: like Shane Steichen endorses that quote like no other of

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Speaker 3: Hey wait a minute, we're gonna come here, We're going

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Speaker 3: to be an improved defense. We're gonna give him Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 3: one of the best running backs in the league. And

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Speaker 3: I'm bullish on myself as a play caller, like, does

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Speaker 3: Shane believe that? And I thought it was also interesting

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Speaker 3: that Sando pointed out of all the people he interviewed,

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Speaker 3: and James correct me, Im wrong, he interviews like GMS

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Speaker 3: coaches and coordinators. Yes, he pointed out that the voters

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Speaker 3: overwhelmingly thought Jones would win the starting job. Yes, and

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Speaker 3: again he's interviewing like minded Shane stykeing people. And so

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Speaker 3: that's where I do continue to say, you know, Jeff

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Speaker 3: just asked you, well, I mean, Jones has got overwhelmingly

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Speaker 3: be better. I would disagree with that. I'm probably a

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Speaker 3: more open minded to Daniel Jones than people I can

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Speaker 3: again I would disagree with that. I would say, no,

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Speaker 3: you got to figure out that Richardson, right, That's where

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Speaker 3: I would go. But we have to live in the

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Speaker 3: colt shoes. I look at Saturday and think to myself,

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Speaker 3: does Richardson have to play well Saturday? Because last Thursday

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Speaker 3: was unquestionably a knock on Richardson. However you want to

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Speaker 3: slice it, that was not a good Anthony Rick.

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Speaker 1: He made a mistake that cost him some injury and

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Speaker 1: once again was missing time.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would argue how he made the mistake was

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Speaker 3: the costly. It's not just that he got hurt, it

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Speaker 3: was that in a game that could be a strip

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Speaker 3: sack in your own territory boom and can you trust

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Speaker 3: god line of scrimmage? If he has another subpar performance

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Speaker 3: in a preseason game, what does that say to the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff that's now two games and two subpar performances

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Speaker 3: in the month of August? Is that too much to

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Speaker 3: overcome in this competition? That is a real thought that

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Speaker 3: I have going into Saturday.

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch

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Speaker 1: and see how it all plays out. To be the

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Speaker 1: best thing to happen would be if both guys go

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Speaker 1: out and play pretty good football, keep this thing going.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we necessarily want a definitive answer

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Speaker 1: after the green Bay game. If they both go out

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Speaker 1: and play.

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Speaker 5: Well, do the best thing. At some point you want

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Speaker 5: to say be able to play well, don't you Well?

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Speaker 5: Part of me is like, do you want to just

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Speaker 5: commit to one for that Cincinnati game? Then let that

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Speaker 5: guy get a full half, maybe even come out for

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Speaker 5: the first series of the third quarter and get a

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Speaker 5: true dress rehearsal there so he can watch this competition

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Speaker 5: to continue deeper into the month of August, because at

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Speaker 5: some point you want to flip the script and say, hey,

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Speaker 5: here's Miami Dolphin game plan.

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Speaker 2: there's no way that's happening, so to feel good, I

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Speaker 1: At a certain point, those are your quarterbacks. And I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think outside of you're a family member of

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where we're at right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But again, I thought yesterday you would have wanted

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Speaker 3: a strong quarterback day given the banged up made tri

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Speaker 3: again I thought a rather efficient day from Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: Continues to be a lot of underneath stuff Richardson. I

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Speaker 3: thought the interception by Tavarious Ward was just a gift

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Speaker 2: You jakes him, Yeah, that's how jas' were, Kevin, if

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Speaker 2: you were asking JS, but not even no, I'm just

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Speaker 2: believer in petty, but I'm not gonna lie Kevin. When

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Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, they're gonna ruin my boy's point. Gosh,

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Speaker 2: did you really I did think about that.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if I had that much control?

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Speaker 2: No, not the jetlemen that much control. And I thought

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Speaker 2: it was just funny because I'm like, he just praised

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget Jacoby Verssett. He had a stretch like

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Speaker 2: You probably got flooded with people saying the.

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Speaker 3: Next day, in no way in the locker room, he

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Speaker 3: literally points me, he goes you jinks me, and first

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Speaker 3: what's second? I want to be like, what about the

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Speaker 3: But Jacoby's sense of humor probably wasn't going to go.

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Speaker 7: He is a.

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Speaker 2: Business man, see you know what, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm here now.

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Speaker 2: I'm your backup. So that happens this this upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: I'll be in the back, you know, not too close

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Speaker 2: but I'll be there cheering you on.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I think I think you are that powerful, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: I love you. That's why, that's why you're here. I

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Speaker 3: By the way, I think we might have a Rick

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Speaker 1: Flying planes, playing piano.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like he's probably done something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this. This is this is a

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Speaker 2: It is way too hot for that. So I texted

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Speaker 2: No, I'm actually pretty courteous. I think it's a neighbor.

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Speaker 2: I might have it loud, but not like super duper loud.

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Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney is a Colts fan? Is this real?

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Speaker 3: Do we believe everything that these people say in the

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Speaker 1: It is on the internet, so at your own.

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Speaker 3: Risk, one of these texts here. Can we get to

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Speaker 3: the fact that Sidney Sweeney is a huge Colts fan?

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Speaker 1: That would be outstanding?

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Speaker 3: And then there's a follow up there about what she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking. I'll just googled this and here's the

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Speaker 4: I just looked up Sidney Sweeney on Twitter. Boy that

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Speaker 4: that's a rabbit hole. That's probably gonna get me sending

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Speaker 1: Just beak careful which which pages you click on.

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Speaker 4: I just I typed in Sidney Sweeney. I can't help

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Speaker 4: it with these pervs put up here.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we like having our own. Maybe she'll show up

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Speaker 1: and be a celebrity of the game. Maybe she'll maybe

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Speaker 4: It looks like the rumors started because it says Sidney

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Speaker 4: Sweeney and colds Wide receiver Alec Pierce have quote quietly

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Speaker 4: are we is someone going on?

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Speaker 8: Here?

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Speaker 3: Is what Sidney Sweeney?

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Speaker 4: That was over a year ago, though, So I feel

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Speaker 4: like that's fake.

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Speaker 1: Checking out the fan text line here three one, seven,

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Speaker 1: six nine, eight and feel free when you send your

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Speaker 1: text to phone number. Good lord, I didn't say the

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Speaker 1: last four digit's just the first three to give you

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Speaker 1: an idea where he's from. Uh, Shane was brought in

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Speaker 1: to turn this raw talent into a quarterback. He'd be gone.

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Speaker 1: He'd be gone too at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. So yeah, it's play the best quarterback or

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Speaker 1: be gone? Right or does that become an indictment on

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Speaker 1: Shan Stike jo He's still win it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's his main giants.

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Speaker 1: One way or the other.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's what makes things so confusing here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Chris Ballard probably want Anthony richardson, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The talent development and all that. But if I'm Shane,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking play whoever can help me get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, if you missed the playoffs for a fifth

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Speaker 2: straight year, everyone's jos should be on the line. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to believe it's been that long, four straight years

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Speaker 2: off the playoffs, and most most teams GMS coaches and

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Speaker 2: I know Shane has been been here that long or

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Speaker 2: as long as Chris, but most coaches, if you missed

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Speaker 2: the playoffs for a four straight year, which will be

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Speaker 2: the case if this was Shane. They're not getting other

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Speaker 2: chance to run it back.

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Speaker 3: Correct, I would argue it shouldn't have gotten to this far.

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Speaker 3: But nonetheless, here we.

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Speaker 1: Are, James. One of our textas is promoting you to

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Speaker 1: a big media conglomerate. You're too talented to stay here

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Speaker 1: for very long. How about that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the love.

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Speaker 3: You know, have another iteration of the morning show?

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Speaker 2: You know, you know what's crazy? You did get that

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Speaker 2: question recently. But I'll tell you all, I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I'm not leaving. No, I've had I have

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Speaker 2: people asking, you know, ourprotunays have opened up. I have

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Speaker 2: no reason to leave. I love being here. I've enjoyed

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Speaker 2: it and uh yeah, and I do think the show

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Speaker 2: has forced me to kind of expand my Indiana sports

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Speaker 2: and knowledge a bit. So I'm enjoying kind of dibbling

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Speaker 2: dabbling everything. And obviously at this point in the year,

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Speaker 2: we're all cults. So I'm looking forward to Thursday's joining

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Speaker 2: practice for sure.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to hearing from people all day long. As

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Speaker 1: the text line is new. As you get in put

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Speaker 1: your name on there. At the very end, we'll put

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Speaker 1: you in the saved column, and moving forward, we'll know

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Speaker 1: exactly who sent what text and we can give you

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Speaker 1: credit for that. Sometimes I think people want credit. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I think they like flying under the right arm, being

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Speaker 1: a little anonymous, which is fine with me too, James.

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Speaker 1: However it works, it is. You can still use the

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Speaker 1: chat on the YouTube, so I talked about that a

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Speaker 1: lot yesterday, and I have no problem keeping that up.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that people stay respectful

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Speaker 1: to some extent. It's okay to have opinions, but it's

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Speaker 1: be some nice to some people too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at this, I don't know about millions, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: but I'm hoping I can get a couple more coins

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Speaker 2: here and a few a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of zeros for James.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's been great, and honestly, I got a

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Speaker 2: chance to talk to somebody about that actually at the

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Speaker 2: golf outing. You know, Hey, are you leaving. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not leaving, brother. I think Indianas in the blood

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Speaker 2: at this point.

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Speaker 1: I almost don't want to disturb you. James Boyd.

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Speaker 2: That was the anthem right that had to be played

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Speaker 2: at every single high school gym before you got out

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Speaker 2: there to play in a game.

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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like this is the anthem for the

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Speaker 4: Brewers because they just don't lose, and that's all they've

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Speaker 4: been doing lately. It's driving me crazy. I told Joel,

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Speaker 4: I'm jealous with envy, but uh, you know, gotta respect it.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to respect it. You can hate.

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Speaker 3: I respect it.

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Speaker 4: It's not the It's not the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: It was the Cardinals. I absolutely hate. Honest, the Brewers

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Speaker 1: are doing it well. The man joins us on the

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Speaker 1: paylesslikers hotline. Right now, he is the cults insider for

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Speaker 1: the Indie Star Joli ericson. Also, maybe are you America's

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Speaker 1: number one Brewers fan or just the number one Brewers

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Speaker 1: fan in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: No, there's no way I'm the number one Brewis fan.

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Speaker 3: I no way stop that you are easily number one

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Speaker 3: Brewers fan. I watched you watch day games in front

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Speaker 3: of me in the media room.

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Speaker 1: All the time.

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Speaker 2: People are people are watching a game, yes to.

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Speaker 1: Trying to figure out how they can get him down

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Speaker 1: the slide with Bernie.

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Speaker 3: They need you down head first down the slide. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Joe, how are we doing today? We're getting

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Speaker 1: near the end of training camp. How are you holding up?

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Speaker 6: We are getting any into training camp? This is this

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Speaker 6: has been a hot one. I'm not gonna lie. I know,

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Speaker 6: I know the one really cares about the temperature of

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Speaker 6: training camp. This This has been one of the hotter

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Speaker 6: ones at Grand Park, right if I remember correctly.

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Speaker 1: It's it feels like it's been hot, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: And that's been I don't know, good, bad or otherwise

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Speaker 1: for the team. But as a camp as a whole,

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Speaker 1: you've seen a number of these things right now, how

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Speaker 1: would you classify this camp so far?

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Speaker 6: I think I think the stuff that sticks out to

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Speaker 6: me is just you know, I don't know that you

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Speaker 6: have a clear front runner at quarterback. I think you

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Speaker 6: probably would rather have a clear front runner at quarterback.

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Speaker 6: One of the other things about this camp is just

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Speaker 6: everything that's happened at cornerback with the injury sticks out.

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Speaker 6: You know, you you taught coming into this camp that

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Speaker 6: you'd you built the cornerback position deep enough that you

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Speaker 6: know you could weather a couple of injuries. But said

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Speaker 6: everybody got hurt. So that's another thing that that sticks out.

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Speaker 6: It's it's been a camp in terms of and it's

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Speaker 6: hard to know you know what this means or doesn't mean. Uh,

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Speaker 6: it's been a camp with with more competition, I think

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Speaker 6: than than ones we've seen in recent memory. You know,

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Speaker 6: I don't remember having a couple of scrimmage practices where

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Speaker 6: they pretty much just go eleven on eleven all day

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Speaker 6: like they did yesterday, or they did the nighttime practice a.

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Speaker 3: Couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: So those that's the stuff that sticks out to me.

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Speaker 6: A lot of it is camp is about fighting the roster,

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Speaker 6: and they've got some interest thrown at him from a

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Speaker 6: roster perspective that I don't think they were expecting.

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Speaker 1: Joel A.

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Speaker 3: Erickson from the Indanapolis staris with us here on the

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Speaker 3: Payoffs Slickers hotline. Joel, does Anthony Richardson need to play

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Speaker 3: well on Saturday night Saturday afternoon, I should say, to

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Speaker 3: earn the starting job.

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Speaker 6: I think he needs to play clean from a standpoint

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Speaker 6: of the making the right reads, knowing where the blitzes

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Speaker 6: are coming from, all that stuff. I've been thinking about

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Speaker 6: this ever since, ever since the play that he got

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Speaker 6: hurt on in Baltimore. But that's the thing that you know,

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Speaker 6: you I James, we can't really see in practice we've all,

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Speaker 6: you know, done our due diligence and charted every pass.

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Speaker 6: We know what the completion percentages are, we don't know

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Speaker 6: some of that operational stuff. If the ball went to

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Speaker 6: the right spot, if you read the corner the right way,

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Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff. That's the kind of stuff

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Speaker 6: that I think is could could be maybe the most

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Speaker 6: important thing for this quarterback competition, and it's something you

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Speaker 6: can't really see from the sideline camp.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say this is Joe for listeners out there,

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Speaker 2: I called Joel coach Joel on the sideline because whenever

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Speaker 2: I don't understand something, it's him and coach Ventry, who

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, both of you guys kind of know.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Ventury has a little bit more experience, but nonetheless

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Speaker 2: usually you guys know what's going on more than I

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Speaker 2: would say me. But on those lines, Joel, when we

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Speaker 2: were out there watching yesterday, what stood out to you

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Speaker 2: in particular when it comes to the down the field

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Speaker 2: throws that Daniel Jones was able to make and perhaps

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Speaker 2: some of the windows he was going to put some

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Speaker 2: of those passes into.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's better.

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Speaker 6: He's better when I number one, if he gets the

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Speaker 6: ball out early in the route. If he makes the

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Speaker 6: decision early and he if he's going for sort of

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Speaker 6: the more classic deep ball, the you know, the high

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Speaker 6: arching ball, that one's got to come out earlier. It

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Speaker 6: just seems like if it doesn't, he's gonna have a

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Speaker 6: it's gonna kind of be under thrown a little bit

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Speaker 6: weirdly though, that's kind of been an issue for Richardson

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Speaker 6: as well in this camp and then But the other

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Speaker 6: thing is, I think these are the as you're talking about.

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Speaker 6: He's better when he has to rip like a twenty

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Speaker 6: five yard shot down the field, and that creates an

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Speaker 6: explosive play too, But if he doesn't have to put

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Speaker 6: all the air under it and he's kind of looking

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Speaker 6: for that spot. I think that's the thing that sticks

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Speaker 6: out about Jones is if you get if Jones is

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Speaker 6: the quarterback, you have to create your explosives on that

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Speaker 6: kind of throw, I think more so than the high

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Speaker 6: arcing ball down the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Joeli, Eric's and Indie Starr here on the

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Speaker 1: Fan Morning show on the Payless Lookers Hotline this morning,

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Speaker 1: Kevin and I and James were talking earlier about sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's hard to evaluate how the running game is going

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Speaker 1: in camp because people aren't going one hundred percent all

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Speaker 1: the time. How is the running game going? What kind

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Speaker 1: of vibe are you getting there?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 6: I think you know, one of the things that sticks

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Speaker 6: out is just they've got you know, new guys at

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Speaker 6: center and cackle or a center and guard, I mean,

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Speaker 6: and some of that interior stuff. We've seen this before

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Speaker 6: in camp where Grover Stewart and de Force Butner kind

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Speaker 6: of make trouble for anything going up the middle there.

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Speaker 6: I think we've seen that again when those guys.

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Speaker 7: Have been in.

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Speaker 6: They've pulled off some big runs yesterday. But yeah, the

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Speaker 6: running game is one of those things that you don't

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Speaker 6: really get to see a ton of in camp, I think,

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Speaker 6: especially when Richardson's in there, but also when Daniel Jones

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Speaker 6: is in there. You know they're not they're doing some

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Speaker 6: of that stuff. I think they're gonna do more of

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Speaker 6: that as they get out of camp and into the

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Speaker 6: sessions that we won't see just to run the plays,

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Speaker 6: but you don't see what makes the plays go in

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Speaker 6: terms of the full contact Johnson Taylor breaking tackles, whether

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Speaker 6: or not arm tackle is gonna get broken or not.

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Speaker 6: You know, they blow things dead when a guy has

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Speaker 6: somebody lined up.

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Speaker 7: That's not necessarily how a.

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Speaker 6: Play ends during the regular season, so it's hard to tell.

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Speaker 6: You know, Johnson Taylor broke an actual seventy five yard

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Speaker 6: touchdown run yesterday. It's just kind of a reminder that

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Speaker 6: he's still Johnson Taylor. This is the guy that rushed

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Speaker 6: for six the more he's rushed for more than six

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Speaker 6: thousand yards in five seasons. But yeah, you don't get

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Speaker 6: a good hand on it. Richardson in particular, I think

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Speaker 6: that hurts the most because he's not supposed to be contacted,

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Speaker 6: and he's generally at his best when there's contact on

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Speaker 6: a running play.

655
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: Joel A. Erickson from The Star with the Seer on

656
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: the Payless Lickers hot line, Joel roster cuts two days

657
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: or excuse me, two weeks from today? Just one big

658
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: one ninety to fifty three. One roster cut question on offense,

659
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: one roster cut question on defense.

660
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 6: How many offensive linemen do they keep?

661
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 7: Traditionally Chris Ballard has really liked to keep a lot.

662
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 6: I think ten is often the number. Do they feel

663
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: like they have ten guys? What does that do for

664
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 6: other spots? Because it feels like you could keep four

665
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 6: running backs, four tight ends. So do you keep all

666
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 6: those offensive linemen when you have potential needs at other

667
00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 6: spots Defensively, I'm centered on that cornerback position now, and

668
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 6: and we'll probably get some information about what they think

669
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 6: about some of these injuries on cutdown day we'll find out,

670
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 6: you know, or or the day after we'll find out.

671
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 6: You know, our guys going on short term I rho

672
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 6: who gets does Johnson Edwards make this team now? The

673
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 6: undrafted rookie from Tulane who's been running with the first team,

674
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 6: and in the wake of all the injuries that that

675
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 6: that spot and how that shakes out. I think it's

676
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 6: hard to gauge because we just we don't know the

677
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 6: status is the timetables for Kenny Moore or Jalen Brent

678
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 6: or Juju Brds or Jalen Jones.

679
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: So judging by that, it sounds like you're in the

680
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: same boat with me. I don't think Jilannie Woods versus

681
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: Will Mallory is a competition at all. I think Will

682
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: Mallory is definitely on the football team and Jolannie Woods

683
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: has got to climb to make the team.

684
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you just look at the rotations. Mallory

685
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 6: has is getting first team reps in practice, they rotate through.

686
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 6: Woods has mostly gotten the developmental or third team reps.

687
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 6: I don't know that there's been like a lot of

688
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 6: second team reps for him. And then Mallory's just had

689
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 6: a really really good camp. You know, you go back

690
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 6: to when this when this staff came in too. You know,

691
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 6: they don't really have any hissue of Jalonny Woods because

692
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 6: of the injuries. They do have some history with Will Mallory.

693
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 6: He was pretty good in twenty twenty three with Gardner

694
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 6: Minshew in a complimentary role. And then on top of that,

695
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 6: he's just he's had a really good camp.

696
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: Joel, I want to pivot a bit to, you know,

697
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: perhaps the running back behind Jonathan Taylor.

698
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: And I feel like I really thought you were gonna

699
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: say sweat.

700
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: Bees, no, no, no, no, the running back behind John Taylor.

701
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting sort of debate because I

702
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: don't know on the unofficial depth chart they have Tyler

703
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: Goodson as the number two running back, but we also

704
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: seen DJ Giddens get some of that responsibility as well.

705
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: Khalil Herbert's in the mix. How do you see that

706
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: perhaps shaken out or what have you seen so far

707
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: to give you an inkley of how it could shake out.

708
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 6: I I think for the for the most part, I

709
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 6: think Tyler Goodson is going to make this team. I

710
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 6: think that that may surprise some fans. You know, you

711
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 6: bring in Herbert, you bring in you Drafka, Giddins, you

712
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 6: feel like maybe you move on there.

713
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: But number one, I think.

714
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 6: Tyler Goodson is a is a core special teams guy

715
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 6: for this team, which is when you get down to

716
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 6: the roster cuts you start looking at your fifty three

717
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 6: that those last eight to ten spots are all special

718
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 6: teams decisions. But on top of that, he's been running

719
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 6: as the second team running back for most of camp.

720
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 6: You know, he's he's got it's everything we've seen from

721
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 6: Goodson in the past. He's got more bursts explosives through

722
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 6: the whole than a lot than a lot of guys.

723
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 6: I think ultimately, once you get to the season, I

724
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 6: think that that's probably a Giddins role. But right now,

725
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 6: you know, Goodson needed to have a really good camp

726
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 6: and he has, and he's got himself in that run

727
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 6: in that number two spot.

728
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: All always good to talk to you. Good luck with

729
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: the Brewers the rest of the way, and good luck

730
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: out at camp. I know the joint practices on Thursday,

731
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: and then everybody kind of settles into their normal rhythm.

732
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: So we're looking forward to keeping up with you then too.

733
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, you bet that's that's I keep trying to tell Mark.

734
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 6: It's it's still early August. You can't. You can't get

735
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 6: too high or too low on the baseball season.

736
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: The team of the ten game win streak, talking down

737
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: to other fans, and that can't have a good day.

738
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 4: Man, fix the roof at your stadium the way have.

739
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: A good one.

740
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: You know what it's like.

741
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna always look at me and.

742
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 7: A little bit you need.

743
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 6: I get it.

744
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: Man, you're really good at baseball. I'm jealous of you.

745
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I hear you.

746
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hears out of ten game winning losing streak.

747
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: We'll be talking him off the ledge.

748
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: That's true, but also, like could be any more cliche.

749
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Never too high, never too low, Joel, you wouldn't reprint

750
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: that in any star if if a coach player told

751
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: you that, ever, don't tell it to me.

752
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Okay answers against jab and a basketball guy.

753
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 3: Really, I bet you those people must be texting you directly.

754
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: You're getting a bunch of support there, I believe I am.

755
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: I bet that Aaron from Minnesota says, James Boyd gives

756
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: me Damon Stattamayer Mighty Mouse vibes, and that would give

757
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen fits.

758
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, look, you know what, Karen Godi, I'm

759
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 3: in the post.

760
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. First of all, y'all gotta stop, you know, rocking

761
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: with people that aren't playing. Y'all need to match it up.

762
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: Anybody listening, line it up? Okay at this point, don't

763
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: jump on kb's bandwagon thinking he gonna save you, because

764
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: he gonna get cooked. And the rest of y'all need

765
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: to go ahead line it up too. Let's start that

766
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: the Fan Morning show one on one tournament. Anybody want

767
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: get them ready? I'm with you right there.

768
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: Let's do that.

769
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: We'll do it, honestly, I'll be fun.

770
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: That would be fun. Let's check in on the payloss

771
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Lookers hotline right now and turn our attention to high

772
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: school sports, which you're getting ready to kick off pretty quickly.

773
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 6: Here.

774
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: Kyle Nedderrip from The Indie Star joins us. Now, I hear.

775
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: You're a little bit of a gym rat too.

776
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 8: You want to know this, Uh, turn the clock back

777
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 8: a few years and maybe, yeah, I'm not sure anymore.

778
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 7: If I could, uh maybe one on one half court,

779
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 7: though I could, I could give it a go.

780
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: You like it and a little make it take it.

781
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: You're good, You're good to go.

782
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 7: I think so, I think I get my knee and

783
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 7: my niece leaves out.

784
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: All he does. Uh, Kyle, it's that time of year again,

785
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: Like what do we have coming up right out of

786
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: the gate here pretty quickly?

787
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, we got high school football scrimmages on Friday, and

788
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 8: then the real thing gets going next Friday, so pretty

789
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 8: deep in the weeds on on a lot of high

790
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 8: school football preview stuff and uh, you know there's always

791
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 8: there's always something going on, but uh, but yeah, it

792
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 8: really kind of gets going here in the next uh

793
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 8: you know, the start practice really started last week, the

794
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 8: official start of practice, but everything kind of gets going

795
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 8: for real next week.

796
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 3: He is the legend, Kyle lenderup where you are beyond

797
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: lucky to have him here Covin Preps. Gosh, it's got

798
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: to be nearly twenty years in the Circle City let's

799
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: start at the top of the class rankings. It appears

800
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: to be a relatively wide open year in six A.

801
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 7: Kyle, Yeah, I would say so.

802
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 8: I think, you know, you kind of start with the

803
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 8: defending champs always in my opinion, and that's you know,

804
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 8: Brownsburg was able to navigate a very difficult to run

805
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 8: last year. Every every game they had in the tournament

806
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 8: was within a touchdown. So but they bring back a

807
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 8: lot offensive firepower, I think ten starters on offense and

808
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 8: kind of a revamped defense, but a talented defense. So

809
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 8: you know, I think he kind of give them the

810
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 8: early nod. But but yeah, I think center Grove is

811
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 8: right there, having having you know, most of you know,

812
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 8: quite quite a bit of talent back, a new quarterback,

813
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 8: but super talented sophomore who I think is going to

814
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 8: be really really good Oscar Sloan, and then you know

815
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 8: Drake mcclerg and and a lot of good weapons on

816
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 8: the offense and a defense. I think it's going to

817
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 8: be better this year. But then after that, you know,

818
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 8: you've still got you know, a long list of teams

819
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 8: that I think will have a chance in a pretty

820
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 8: balanced year, Like Westfield has just been really solid year

821
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 8: and year out. You know, you look at what Crown

822
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 8: Point's done in the last couple of years. I think

823
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 8: they're a factor now to be you know, coming out

824
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 8: of that north side of the bracket. You know, Lawrence

825
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 8: North lost a lot, but also has some really key

826
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 8: pieces back from last year. They were probably the team

827
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 8: that a lot of people thought was gonna win it

828
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 8: last year and then lost that that heartbreaker to Brownsburg

829
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 8: in the regional by by one point. But but then

830
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 8: you know, a lot a lot of the you know

831
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 8: the stories too, are you know Decatur Central moving up

832
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 8: from after winning five A state championship to six A.

833
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 8: You know, so they're they're plugged into that Cathedral spot

834
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 8: where Cathedral moves.

835
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 7: Down to five A.

836
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 8: So you know, you've got some different storylines this year

837
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 8: with the schools moving classes a little bit, so you know,

838
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 8: Newpoal moving up from four to five A and then

839
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 8: Herrita Chills from three to four A, so you get,

840
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 8: you know, three defending champs in those classes moving up

841
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 8: a class.

842
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 7: So that'll be something to watch for too.

843
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 8: But Decator Central how they fare and six A will

844
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 8: be interesting as well.

845
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle, you were saying Lawrence North lost a lot

846
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: last year. I was like, what do you mean? And

847
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: then he continued, I was like, they lose a lot.

848
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: They were pretty good team, but talent wise, yes, I

849
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: understand where you're coming from. The question I have for

850
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: you is related to more of the individual players. We

851
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: saw Mark Zachary take on mister football last year, and

852
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: obviously he's a great player. He's a great basketball player too.

853
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: On that Ben Davis team who won stayed a couple

854
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: of years ago. So on the short list of players

855
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: seniors that is because they're the only ones who can win

856
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: mister football. Who do you see kind of being in

857
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: that mix of that conversation.

858
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, you know, in fairness to you know,

859
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 8: the defensive guys. I actually talked to JJ Finch about

860
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 8: this the other day. You know, he you know, he's

861
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 8: got all these great numbers as a defensive player, but

862
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 8: a lot of times it's the offensive guys, as we know,

863
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 8: kind of like the Heisman Trophy, where you know, you

864
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 8: almost have to be an offensive guy, or even if

865
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 8: you're a defensive guy, you know, play some offense to

866
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 8: be able to win. Like Mark Zachery, he was technically

867
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 8: a defensive guy, but but also did a lot receiving wise,

868
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 8: So if you're going to be a defensive guy, you

869
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 8: probably need to play some offense. So you know that

870
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 8: being said, I think you kind of start with the

871
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 8: offensive you know players, and you know, and I think

872
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 8: JJ Finch will definitely be in the mix for defensive line,

873
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 8: you know, mister football. But uh and and probably could

874
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 8: be in the in the you know, top running for

875
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 8: the award. But I would start with probably Jeded Goldsberry

876
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 8: from Heritage Hills. He's he plays quarterback. He'll be a

877
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 8: defensive guy at Old Miss, but he's put up a

878
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 8: lot of stats as as an offensive player. They won

879
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 8: a championship last year. Like I said, they were three

880
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 8: A now moving to four A. But he's got great numbers, uh,

881
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 8: you know, like I said, going to play in the SEC.

882
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 8: So you know, he's a talented player. Kashmir Hicks from Decatur.

883
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 8: I think it's another guy going to IU. You know that,

884
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 8: you know, staying in state sometimes helps. But he's another

885
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 8: guy plays offense and defense, had a great season last year.

886
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 8: Super explosive player who can score in multiple ways. And

887
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 8: then another one, you know, I think should be listed

888
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 8: as Deacon King from Westfield who is going to Northern

889
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 8: Illinois and he plays offense and defense as well, but

890
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 8: you know, plays running back and running backs a lot

891
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 8: of times, a position where you know you're going to

892
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 8: get pretty good stats, especially with the offensive line that

893
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 8: Westfield you know has pretty much year and year out

894
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 8: and the good again this year.

895
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 7: So you know, he's a guy who ran for almost.

896
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 8: Fifteen hundred yards last year, and I think he's going

897
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 8: to be, you know, a guy who plays both ways

898
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 8: again but will probably be their primary running back at

899
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 8: least as the stands now. So you know, I think

900
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 8: those guys are probably names you could start with, you know,

901
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 8: Josh Rains, another player from New Palace or running back. Also,

902
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 8: he's going to have big numbers, I would say again

903
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 8: this year, you know. And there's a there's a few

904
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 8: other names too that that I think, uh, you know,

905
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 8: and you never know, you know, as the year starts

906
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 8: and then things happen and you know, guys rise, rise up,

907
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 8: and then you kind of take another look at it

908
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 8: at the end of the regular season. But you under

909
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 8: stands now, those are probably a few of the names

910
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 8: to look out for as the season starts.

911
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: Kyle That and Rip Indy starts joining us on the

912
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: pay list lickers Hotline. Kyle, you bring up some great

913
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: storylines early on about teams that are changing classification or

914
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: some of the individual guys they're going to be watching.

915
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: Is there a kind of an under the radar story

916
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: out there that you're really looking forward to watch develop

917
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: as the season moves along?

918
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 7: Uh? Yeah, I was.

919
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 8: You know, one one thing to watch is probably how

920
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 8: and this is probably not for this year, and it's

921
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 8: something that's been you know, talked about a lot. Is

922
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 8: the the new transfer rule and how that you know,

923
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 8: affects things. I don't know, it's going to be a big,

924
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 8: big thing this year, and honestly, you know, it's it's

925
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 8: Transfers have been happening since the you know, one hundred

926
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 8: years ago. You know, it's not it's not that unusual

927
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 8: to see players move places, but it does change the

928
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 8: ability of you know, freshman and sophomores to change if

929
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 8: they see fit. And a lot of times maybe we

930
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 8: not we may not even know about those those players

931
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 8: who they may not be an actor where they're at, and

932
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 8: then they end up being a you know, end up

933
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 8: being a better player somewhere else. So you know that's

934
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 8: maybe something under the radar, not necessarily related to the

935
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 8: playing field, you know, I would say on the playing field.

936
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 8: To me, it's you know, kind of that the story

937
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 8: of like who who who are some of the surprise teams?

938
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 8: I think, like you know, and nobody would call Carmel

939
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 8: a surprise team probably any year. But you know, I

940
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 8: am curious how Kevin writes a second tenure at Carmel goes.

941
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 8: I think that's one of the more interesting stories to

942
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 8: me is how they you know, what kind of season

943
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 8: they have and how Kevin you know, kind of does

944
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 8: as a high school coach again after he's been you

945
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 8: know what, I guess technically was a high school coach

946
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 8: dim academy, but it's just a different, you know, different

947
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 8: not Indiana high school football. So you know, he's been

948
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 8: out of it for a little while. So him coming

949
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 8: back in I think is sort of exciting for definitely

950
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 8: for Carmel and I think for high school football as

951
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 8: a whole. But you know, they were, you know, a

952
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 8: team that kind of struggled the last couple of years.

953
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 7: And you know, skin he get it going again.

954
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 8: I think is will be interesting and they and they

955
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 8: have a really tough schedule in you know, starting out

956
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 8: Week two they play Westfield at home and that should

957
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 8: be an awesome crowd and a great game. But really

958
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 8: curious to see how they look this year under Kevin Kyle.

959
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: Last one from me, And I know you've written on

960
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: this and I know it's a hot button topic, and

961
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: you just brought up, you know, the new transfer rule.

962
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: Kai McGrew basketball player, for those unfamiliar, one of the

963
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: top ranked kids in the junior now senior class here

964
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, Bless you, James. He transfers from

965
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Ellen to Fishers, and I believe the ISSA has ruled

966
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: limited eligibility, so that means he will play jv really

967
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: until the end of the season in his final year

968
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: of high cool basketball. Uh, could you fill our audience

969
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: in that maybe have have have missed this? Is this

970
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: strictly just he transferred to Fishers like too early. If

971
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: he would have waited for the new rule to go

972
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: in place, then he could have been playing varsity.

973
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 7: Is that?

974
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: Do I have that story correct?

975
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 7: Yeah?

976
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 8: I mean not necessarily, he probably would have been under

977
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 8: the new rule, you know, so he yeah, he did

978
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 8: transfer before June first, which was the date when the

979
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 8: new rule went into place, so you know, he was

980
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 8: that that transfer was processed by the old rule, and

981
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 8: you know, under that rule.

982
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 7: They found that, you know, I guess they they found.

983
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 8: That, you know, he should have limited eligibility, which basically

984
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 8: means if you got a Division one player playing JV,

985
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 8: which doesn't really make a lot of sense, you know,

986
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 8: as far as.

987
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 7: Like what you know, what he would want to do.

988
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 8: Obviously the competent's not, you know, going to help get

989
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 8: you ready for college. But yeah, they so that, as

990
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 8: I understand it, that is being appealed, and I don't think

991
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 8: that appeal has happened just yet or been you know,

992
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 8: it hasn't hasn't changed the ruling on it just yet,

993
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 8: so we'll see what happens with that.

994
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 7: I would say, you know, if he would.

995
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 8: Have transferred after June first under the new rule, because

996
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 8: seniors aren't you know, seniors would have to sit out

997
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 8: thirty days from the start a competition, so basically you're

998
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 8: missing you know, whatever thirty days would be from that

999
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 8: first day if competition is allowed, so you're probably missing

1000
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 8: what that would be like maybe five or six games roughly,

1001
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 8: So you know, he would have he would have missed

1002
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 8: part of the season, not basically the whole thing. Like

1003
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 8: the current rule is now, there are cases where I

1004
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 8: think we'll see in the future, like you know, a

1005
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 8: senior going in their senior year transfers and maybe there's

1006
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 8: stuff found out to where it's undue influence or recruiting.

1007
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 8: And we actually have a story I did a coach

1008
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 8: as confidential with the football coaches today that just came

1009
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 8: out this morning on you know, recruiting undo influence and

1010
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 8: you know kind of granted and innivity and some of

1011
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 8: the answerests were just like, you know, it's really interesting

1012
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 8: to read. I mean, it sounds like there's a lot,

1013
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 8: you know, going on of that, and I think that

1014
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 8: maybe the new rule is adding to that somewhat, but.

1015
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 7: At least in some places. But but but yeah, on.

1016
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 8: Tuy's case, I think, you know, if he doesn't get

1017
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 8: eligibility or just as JV, you know, it would kind

1018
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 8: of be, you know, for a guy who wants to

1019
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 8: play D one basketball, you know, sort of pointless to

1020
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 8: play JV, I would say, And you know, so that's

1021
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 8: kind of where that stands. But you know, so I

1022
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 8: think I think something maybe you learn from it is

1023
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 8: that if you want to transfer, you need to do

1024
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 8: it before you know, you get into that post junior

1025
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 8: year time frame, because then it's sort of in the

1026
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 8: hands of you know, sitting out at least thirty days

1027
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 8: or you know. So you're going to have more freedom

1028
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 8: if you transfer your first two years or after your

1029
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 8: first after your second year.

1030
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: All right, ship here and all of your thoughts in

1031
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: high school football, getting ready for another great ware? Go quick, Kyle,

1032
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: you got real quick.

1033
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: Who's your mount rushmore of high school football players that

1034
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: you've say in your years covering.

1035
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: But just to drop that on me, you three minutes over.

1036
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. I need to know this.

1037
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: I was curious about this. You've done this for a

1038
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: long time.

1039
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 8: Oh man, Uh, I would say, you know Sheldon Day

1040
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 8: from Warren Central, d One. Gosh, Brandon Peters who played

1041
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 8: the quarterback at Avon Peters with Illinois, Yeah, ten years ago.

1042
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 8: I mean he was very good high school quarterback.

1043
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 7: Gosh.

1044
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 8: I mean I would have to say, you know, David

1045
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 8: Bell would be on my you know, my personal list,

1046
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 8: and uh, gosh, now I'm gonna Now you're gonna put

1047
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 8: me in a position where I'm gonna miss somebody. Uh man,

1048
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 8: I would say I put probably put mark up there

1049
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 8: too on that.

1050
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well do you pretty quickly? I like that.

1051
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm I'm uh yeah, I'm probably missing a few here.

1052
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 7: But that's a good question.

1053
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 8: Though.

1054
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: Listeners will remind you throughout the day. You know that,

1055
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: everybody will be reminding you. Now, that's right, that's how

1056
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: that works. Work on that jump shot. We'll talk to

1057
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 1: you soon, Thanks Kyle, all right, Thanks guys,