1
00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,800
Speaker 1: So can he stop the Republican cabal in Indiana? Let's

2
00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,520
Speaker 1: find out. It's kind of a case. He show him.

3
00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,280
Speaker 1: Rob Casey's out today, Ethan's in for case he Bobai

4
00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,559
Speaker 1: joins us now in studio. Democrat candidate for Secretary of State?

5
00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,520
Speaker 2: Bo Hello, Hey, how are you doing? Rom all right?

6
00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,880
Speaker 1: So, first question, why would you want to do this

7
00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,560
Speaker 1: to yourself? You've got a pretty good life, You're working

8
00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,960
Speaker 1: for a law firm, you know, great family. Why are

9
00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,319
Speaker 1: you running for secretary of state?

10
00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was raised in a family of public servants,

11
00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,760
Speaker 2: and I was always taught that public servants should serve

12
00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,800
Speaker 2: people and not themselves. And I'm looking at our state.

13
00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm seeing too often that the folks in the state House,

14
00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,159
Speaker 2: and particularly the Secretary of State, are serving themselves. He's

15
00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,280
Speaker 2: using his position as an elected official to benefit himself,

16
00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,800
Speaker 2: to enrich himself, to help his friends and family. I mean,

17
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,680
Speaker 2: the guy spent ninety thousand dollars of the taxpayer money

18
00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,640
Speaker 2: on a luxury suv.

19
00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,440
Speaker 1: He's a lot of money.

20
00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,240
Speaker 2: That's a lot of money. That's well, that's not just

21
00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,839
Speaker 2: a lot of money. That's more than the averageosier makes

22
00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,680
Speaker 2: an entire year. He's flown around the world, doesn't tell

23
00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,560
Speaker 2: us who's paying for those trips, the purpose of the travel.

24
00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,600
Speaker 2: He's increased his own salary, his office, head count, et cetera.

25
00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,440
Speaker 2: The list on. I want to live a life of service.

26
00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,600
Speaker 2: I look at I was in the Marine Corps. When

27
00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,400
Speaker 2: you see a problem in the Marine Corps, you run towarty,

28
00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,520
Speaker 2: you try and fix it. The secretary of State's office

29
00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,880
Speaker 2: is a big, big problem in our politics. My plan

30
00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,200
Speaker 2: is simple. Day one, We're going to clean up the

31
00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,959
Speaker 2: wasteful spending and the corruption. I'm gonna conduct an independent

32
00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,760
Speaker 2: audit of the offer. Yeah, can you like auction the

33
00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,200
Speaker 2: car off the do you do that? We'll wait on

34
00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,039
Speaker 2: that one. Gotta we gotta see what the market looks like.

35
00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,200
Speaker 2: And I think that thing's got some nice leather interior too.

36
00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,440
Speaker 2: Still that new car smell.

37
00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,119
Speaker 1: So let's get I want to get to what you're

38
00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,399
Speaker 1: gonna do as Secretary of State. But the first thing

39
00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,399
Speaker 1: that fascinates me is, obviously, and I'm sure you get

40
00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,520
Speaker 1: this all the time, you come from a very famous

41
00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,279
Speaker 1: political family. Your dad was the governor, senator, your grandpa

42
00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,600
Speaker 1: is senator. Like, is that a do you do? You

43
00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,000
Speaker 1: step out of that shadow. Do you say, Look, here's

44
00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,240
Speaker 1: who I am. I'm a part of this lineage of politics.

45
00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,800
Speaker 1: How are you going to handle that as you run

46
00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,480
Speaker 1: this campaign.

47
00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very proud of my family's service to our

48
00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,160
Speaker 2: state and country. And you know, I'm not naive to

49
00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,160
Speaker 2: the circumstances of my birth. It's not something I could control.

50
00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,280
Speaker 2: It's just kind of who I am. But I got

51
00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,080
Speaker 2: to be my own person. I am my own person,

52
00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,480
Speaker 2: and I look forward to the next you know, thirteen

53
00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,720
Speaker 2: months or so to the November of twenty twenty six

54
00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,200
Speaker 2: showing people who I am. I got to be my

55
00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,280
Speaker 2: own person. You might remember in twenty sixteen, my dad

56
00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 2: briefly lost his mind and tried to get I tried

57
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,959
Speaker 2: to get back involved in politics.

58
00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,680
Speaker 3: That's why that's why I ask you, because it's he says,

59
00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,960
Speaker 3: with sports, where it's like very hard to be you're

60
00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,000
Speaker 3: calling the arch manning by the way, So what if

61
00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,399
Speaker 3: you're not very good, you could very well be very good.

62
00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,960
Speaker 1: We hope you're very good. But you know, you see

63
00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,919
Speaker 1: that with sports right where it's like, you know, Michael

64
00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,120
Speaker 1: Jordan's son or now Lebron James son, it's very hard

65
00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,960
Speaker 1: to follow in the footsteps of a famous fathers or grandfathers,

66
00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,120
Speaker 1: And I just wonder you know how you'll you'll deal

67
00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,960
Speaker 1: with that because sometimes that's not easy for people.

68
00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,720
Speaker 2: It's not easy. But you might remember Peyton Manning. Yeah,

69
00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,560
Speaker 2: my sports hero, his dad, his dad when nobody Yeah,

70
00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,519
Speaker 2: So it does happen both ways. And look, my mom

71
00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,960
Speaker 2: always like say to me growing up, never never try

72
00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,480
Speaker 2: to be anyone else, because you're never gonna be good

73
00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,320
Speaker 2: at it. People could smell a phony from mile away.

74
00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,079
Speaker 2: It's same in the marine corpse, same in business, same

75
00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,760
Speaker 2: in politics. You just got to be yourself. I'm just

76
00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,200
Speaker 2: gonna tell people the truth, particularly when it comes to

77
00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,440
Speaker 2: this office. Yeah, tell people what's going on. I mean

78
00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,560
Speaker 2: you've discussed this public polling on your show. I think

79
00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,760
Speaker 2: it was yesterday or the day before.

80
00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,079
Speaker 1: Yep.

81
00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,200
Speaker 2: The public polling shows that nobody knows in our state

82
00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,320
Speaker 2: who Diego Morales is, and the people that do know

83
00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,320
Speaker 2: don't like him.

84
00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,799
Speaker 1: Is that good for you? By the way Bo buys

85
00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,919
Speaker 1: our guests, he's Democrat candidate for Secretary of State. Is

86
00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,400
Speaker 1: that good for you? Because on the one hand, he's

87
00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,960
Speaker 1: way underwater and people know who he is, the other hand,

88
00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,800
Speaker 1: all the Shenanigans he's pulled. People don't really know about

89
00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,240
Speaker 1: it yet. Does that work in your favor?

90
00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm gonna bust my butt. I'm gonna get

91
00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,680
Speaker 2: to all the ninety two counties of our state, and

92
00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell people about this. How can you blame

93
00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,280
Speaker 2: people for their voting patterns when they're not informed about

94
00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,680
Speaker 2: the candidates. I'm going to get around our entire state.

95
00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have the resources to do that with some media,

96
00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,760
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna do it with my legs getting around

97
00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,640
Speaker 2: all ninety two counties. I'm gonna tell people about him.

98
00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell people about me. I am the right

99
00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,640
Speaker 2: person for this office. Not partisan, Rob, it's not. The

100
00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,280
Speaker 2: office has nothing to do with your political party. It

101
00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,280
Speaker 2: has to do with good government. I mean the guys

102
00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,600
Speaker 2: wasting our money. People work really hard for their money.

103
00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna save people money.

104
00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,520
Speaker 1: Bobi is our guest Democrat kadid for Secretary of State.

105
00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,280
Speaker 4: All right, So.

106
00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna be very

107
00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:22,040
Speaker 1: interested on how you sort of overcome the Democrat challenge,

108
00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,240
Speaker 1: which is, hey, it's a sixty to forty state. Obviously

109
00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,400
Speaker 1: the Democrats. It's been a long time since I guess what,

110
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,200
Speaker 1: Joe Donnelly and then Glinda Ritz So it's been a

111
00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,560
Speaker 1: decade plus. How do you get enough Republican leaning voters

112
00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,360
Speaker 1: to vote for you to make up that pretty big

113
00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,880
Speaker 1: gap in terms of voter voter tendencies.

114
00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,880
Speaker 2: For lack of a good question, the best thing about

115
00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,599
Speaker 2: this office in this race and my message, it's not partisan. Republicans.

116
00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,560
Speaker 2: You don't like wastefle spending. You don't like when our

117
00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,599
Speaker 2: secretary of State goes to hydrobad India doesn't tell us

118
00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,200
Speaker 2: who's paying for it.

119
00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,000
Speaker 1: Man, we're count on you to find out who paid

120
00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,320
Speaker 1: for the thing. That's your job.

121
00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,600
Speaker 2: Day one, we're doing an independent audit. We're gonna bring

122
00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,760
Speaker 2: you've probably had mice in your house. Your listeners have

123
00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,040
Speaker 2: had mice in their house. The exterminator comes over. When

124
00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,720
Speaker 2: they see one mouse, it means there's like fifty or

125
00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,880
Speaker 2: one hundred. This is just what we know with this guy.

126
00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,120
Speaker 2: Are you the exterminator? Are you running to be the exterminator?

127
00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:11,880
Speaker 4: State?

128
00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,559
Speaker 2: Your resistant analogy? But look where there's smoke, there's fire.

129
00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,160
Speaker 2: Day one, we're going to conduct an independent audit of

130
00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,320
Speaker 2: this office. Republicans and Democrats alike can get behind cutting

131
00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,920
Speaker 2: out wasteful spending and blatant corruption in politics. This guy,

132
00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,320
Speaker 2: Rob has given out no bid contracts to his campaign

133
00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,159
Speaker 2: donors from out of state software companies. I mean, look,

134
00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,599
Speaker 2: he's supposed to be in charge of registering the businesses

135
00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,040
Speaker 2: in our state. Can you imagine. Can you imagine your

136
00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,360
Speaker 2: listeners probably are business owners. Can you imagine registering your

137
00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,880
Speaker 2: new business as an entrepreneur with our state and wanting

138
00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,919
Speaker 2: a good partner in a Secretary of State's office, and

139
00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,440
Speaker 2: this guy's giving out no bid contracts to his donors.

140
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,800
Speaker 2: That is not a good partner. How can you trust

141
00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,839
Speaker 2: that person to help you found your business and be successful.

142
00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,640
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

143
00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,159
Speaker 1: So you have, like we said, an uphill climb. And

144
00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,839
Speaker 1: by the way, I think that's great that you're going

145
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,120
Speaker 1: to do that, because I think we talked about this

146
00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,760
Speaker 1: on our show. Not only you run against Diego Morales,

147
00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,479
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who have been totally complicit

148
00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,360
Speaker 1: in what he's doing. I think most people that say

149
00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400
Speaker 1: does know exactly what he is. And the fact that

150
00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240
Speaker 1: the governor won't do anything about it, the attorney general

151
00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,480
Speaker 1: won't do anything about it. It's really going to take

152
00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,600
Speaker 1: somebody to get in that office because you will get

153
00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,240
Speaker 1: access to all the stuff. You're going to be able

154
00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:20,960
Speaker 1: to open those doors.

155
00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,960
Speaker 2: You're right, and look, this is this goes to the

156
00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,719
Speaker 2: heart of a big problem in Indiana politics that I

157
00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,000
Speaker 2: think you and I agree on. Mitch Daniels agrees with

158
00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,120
Speaker 2: me on this. He's written extensively on this. Diego Morales

159
00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,280
Speaker 2: is the product of twenty five years of no competition

160
00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,279
Speaker 2: in politics. Right, this is what happens. It's just like business,

161
00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,200
Speaker 2: if you have if there are no competing businesses in

162
00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400
Speaker 2: an area, the one business in town can jack up

163
00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,640
Speaker 2: their prices and screw consumers. That's what's happening here. He

164
00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,520
Speaker 2: does not feel like he has to take good actions,

165
00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,200
Speaker 2: good steps for good government, because he feels like there

166
00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,599
Speaker 2: are no repercussions for his bad actions. He's about to

167
00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,440
Speaker 2: find out that's not the case. It's not partisan. We

168
00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,920
Speaker 2: need competitive politics because it produces better results for voters.

169
00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,000
Speaker 2: It's not about Democrats Republicans. It's about people in office

170
00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,839
Speaker 2: who actually care about the taxpayer, who are competent at

171
00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,320
Speaker 2: their jobs, are not going to lie to you.

172
00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,560
Speaker 1: So I try to make this case. A lot on

173
00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,800
Speaker 1: this program, and I hear from people, many people they

174
00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,480
Speaker 1: will say, you know what, You're right, The Republicans are awful.

175
00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,360
Speaker 1: They're mismanaging our money, the crony capitalism. But boy, I

176
00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,760
Speaker 1: just there's a lot of extremists in the Democrat Party

177
00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,320
Speaker 1: and I just can't deal with that. How do you

178
00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,360
Speaker 1: overcome when there are some very loud voices in your

179
00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,320
Speaker 1: party who really alienate people who otherwise might be open

180
00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,480
Speaker 1: to voting for you. How do you deal with.

181
00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,960
Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear them, and can tell us. Look,

182
00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,560
Speaker 2: both political parties need to focus on the issues that

183
00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,040
Speaker 2: matter to most people. Most people people care about cost

184
00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,280
Speaker 2: of living. I mean, utility rates are through the roof

185
00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,040
Speaker 2: here in Indiana. You know that. I just passed the

186
00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,440
Speaker 2: AES building on the way in here. That's my utility company.

187
00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,200
Speaker 2: I pay those rates. Healthcare costs are rate too high.

188
00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,560
Speaker 2: Are roads and bridge are crumbling. We've gotta make sure

189
00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,760
Speaker 2: to keep our streets safe. These are the issues that

190
00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,840
Speaker 2: people care about. The Democratic parties, some factions of it

191
00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,240
Speaker 2: have been focused on things for way too long that

192
00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,640
Speaker 2: are just not the main issue for most people. So

193
00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,960
Speaker 2: you ask me how I'm gonna you know, attract voters

194
00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,320
Speaker 2: of the other party focus on the things that matter

195
00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,200
Speaker 2: to people, not some of the extremeist politics that we've seen.

196
00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,360
Speaker 1: So like with coaches in sports, like if their dad

197
00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,600
Speaker 1: was a coach, they call up their father, like, Hey,

198
00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,680
Speaker 1: what do you think about this game? Whatever? Do you

199
00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,720
Speaker 1: have those conversations with your dad or is it just like, Hey,

200
00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing and I'll call him and

201
00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,880
Speaker 1: we'll talk about, you know, the Colts game this week,

202
00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,040
Speaker 1: Like what are those conversations?

203
00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,079
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, sometimes I'll ask him for advice. Sometimes he

204
00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,680
Speaker 2: gives unsolicit advice, like a lot of loving fathers out there,

205
00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,720
Speaker 2: and you know that can be good and bad, but

206
00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,360
Speaker 2: you know it's this is my own thing. I got

207
00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,480
Speaker 2: to make my own way. And you might in twenty

208
00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,600
Speaker 2: sixteen people say, oh, well, you know you're benefiting a

209
00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,280
Speaker 2: ton from your dad's your dad's legacy. And I get

210
00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,440
Speaker 2: that one hundred percent get that. I'm not naive. But

211
00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,600
Speaker 2: he did lose his last campaign in twenty sixteen by

212
00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,760
Speaker 2: a healthy margin to an.

213
00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,680
Speaker 1: Idiot to Todd Young.

214
00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,599
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well, actually I Todd Young, say what you

215
00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,720
Speaker 2: will about him. He's a marine. I'm a marine. He

216
00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,920
Speaker 2: actually he I had a problem with my g I

217
00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,920
Speaker 2: built benefits. I gave his office a call. They were

218
00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,839
Speaker 2: on it right away, So I do appreciate that.

219
00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,320
Speaker 1: Now, now you get a lot of credit though you've

220
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,120
Speaker 1: been here for ten minutes and you did not mention

221
00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,520
Speaker 1: you were a marine, which is way more than you

222
00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,280
Speaker 1: ever get out of Todd Young Congratulations.

223
00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,160
Speaker 2: Well, look, I appreciate his service.

224
00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:21,440
Speaker 4: All right.

225
00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,760
Speaker 1: Our guest is bo Baye, Democrat candidate or Secretary of State.

226
00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,280
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll get

227
00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,840
Speaker 1: to some of the issues. How does he feel about

228
00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,440
Speaker 1: voter I D How does he feel about ballot initiatives?

229
00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,679
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a lot more. Kennel A

230
00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:47,600
Speaker 1: Casey Show ninety three w IBC first get good after

231
00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,040
Speaker 1: in for Casey bo Ba Democrat Kennedy for Secretary of State.

232
00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,360
Speaker 1: He is our guest, so let's talk about some of

233
00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,400
Speaker 1: the positions you have. You have said, I think it

234
00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,480
Speaker 1: is a very smart voter id off table. We're not

235
00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,840
Speaker 1: touching voter id long.

236
00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,160
Speaker 2: And we rob by the way. We in our state

237
00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,240
Speaker 2: must have secure elections. There is no room, no room

238
00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,560
Speaker 2: in our state for illegal voting. But at the same token,

239
00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a shame that Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom

240
00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,440
Speaker 2: of the country in voter participation.

241
00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,360
Speaker 1: Why is that is because.

242
00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,640
Speaker 2: The number one reason I've read studies about this, I

243
00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,920
Speaker 2: doubt Diego Moralysis studied this issue because, to be honest

244
00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,559
Speaker 2: with you, I don't.

245
00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:22,960
Speaker 4: Think he cares.

246
00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,520
Speaker 2: Voter apathy. People don't go to the polls because they

247
00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,800
Speaker 2: feel like their voice doesn't matter, like they're just casting

248
00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,560
Speaker 2: their ballot into the abyss. Your listeners know about this

249
00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,280
Speaker 2: partisan redistricting effort that's going on. Yeah, what do you

250
00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,000
Speaker 2: think that's going to do to voter apathy? If we

251
00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,559
Speaker 2: further gerrymander our congressional maps where where we have very

252
00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,480
Speaker 2: non competitive elections, people are not going to go to the

253
00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,079
Speaker 2: polls because they're going to say, why am I voting?

254
00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,760
Speaker 2: This outcome is predetermined.

255
00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,640
Speaker 1: So I think the big thing for you, though, is

256
00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,160
Speaker 1: you're fine with voter id in the state of media.

257
00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,040
Speaker 1: You're not going to push to change that. No, Okay,

258
00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about the ballot referendums, because that'd be an

259
00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,200
Speaker 1: act of the legislature. But you, as the elections chief,

260
00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,079
Speaker 1: would have some sway over that in terms of public influence.

261
00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,800
Speaker 1: Where are you out on ballot referendums.

262
00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,040
Speaker 2: I think it is time in Indiana, just like Florida, Missouri,

263
00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,440
Speaker 2: and Ohio, that we had a citizen led ballot referendum process.

264
00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,199
Speaker 2: I just mentioned Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom of the country

265
00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,679
Speaker 2: and voter participation that is in part droup drawn pushed

266
00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,000
Speaker 2: by voter apathy. Another part is people think that folks

267
00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,600
Speaker 2: in the state US just don't represent their interests. They're

268
00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,880
Speaker 2: just turned off from politics. Like my brother is one

269
00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:29,440
Speaker 2: of these people.

270
00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,360
Speaker 1: Can you He's nowhere to be found exactly, very happy.

271
00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,360
Speaker 2: He's living a great life in Carmel and with his

272
00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,480
Speaker 2: new wife and new job. So he's doing fine. But look,

273
00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,000
Speaker 2: can you imagine the energy that we can build in

274
00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,840
Speaker 2: our state, the voter turnout that could happen if we

275
00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,800
Speaker 2: let the people decide to have a voice in the

276
00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,720
Speaker 2: big issues of the day. That is going to drive turnout,

277
00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,600
Speaker 2: that's going to get people out to the polls. I

278
00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,560
Speaker 2: have a lot of faith robbed like you do in

279
00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,360
Speaker 2: Hoosiers deciding these issues and not the folks, the one

280
00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,160
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty people who are off by special interests

281
00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,320
Speaker 2: in the state House. I have faith in the in

282
00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,320
Speaker 2: Hoosiers deciding this.

283
00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,440
Speaker 1: Do you feel pressure that?

284
00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:06,920
Speaker 4: Look?

285
00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's pretty obvious you're sort of

286
00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,960
Speaker 1: like the last hope for the Democrat Party in Indiana.

287
00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't pull it off with your name,

288
00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,839
Speaker 1: with your your resources, I mean, you're going to be

289
00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,640
Speaker 1: a much better candidate than what they put forward in

290
00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,840
Speaker 1: the past. Is there pressure like, Hey, if this guy

291
00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,600
Speaker 1: can't do it, we're folding the tent and we're going home.

292
00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think about things that way.

293
00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,520
Speaker 2: All I can do is focus. You know, you're are

294
00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:29,600
Speaker 2: you football fan?

295
00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

296
00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean I've got an EU diploma on my while

297
00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,679
Speaker 1: I paid for it.

298
00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,640
Speaker 2: Well, Kazignetty likes to say, we have you know, we

299
00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,480
Speaker 2: focus on the next hour, best meeting, best walk through,

300
00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,960
Speaker 2: best practice, and then we go through quarter by quarter

301
00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,600
Speaker 2: in the game. You can't think about all these you know,

302
00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,720
Speaker 2: big kind of looming pressures on you. You just got

303
00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,960
Speaker 2: to focus on what is in front of me immediately today.

304
00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,320
Speaker 2: How can I win this moment? That's what I'm focused on,

305
00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,319
Speaker 2: not all those narratives.

306
00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,880
Speaker 1: A couple of minutes left with Bobi's Democrat candidate for

307
00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,839
Speaker 1: Secretary of State. So what's the next several months look

308
00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,240
Speaker 1: like like for you because one of the things that

309
00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,880
Speaker 1: you've done very well so far, and I think it's

310
00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,040
Speaker 1: even surprise surprising people. I think a lot of people

311
00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,600
Speaker 1: are like, well, it's Dad's go give him all this money.

312
00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,200
Speaker 1: He'll be fine. You're raising a lot of money, you know, say,

313
00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,640
Speaker 1: on your own. So what did the next couple of

314
00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,120
Speaker 1: months look like for you? And and address this amount

315
00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,800
Speaker 1: of money you think it's going to take to win

316
00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:20,400
Speaker 1: this race.

317
00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the next couple of months, I'm working at

318
00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,200
Speaker 2: a law from here in town, and you know, I

319
00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,600
Speaker 2: got bills to pay. Someone was saying the other day, well,

320
00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,360
Speaker 2: most people run for public office don't have jobs on

321
00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,920
Speaker 2: the side. I'm like, well, I mean well.

322
00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,680
Speaker 1: And I will say this for you. You showed up

323
00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,400
Speaker 1: on your own. There's no entourage here. Yeah, well I

324
00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,120
Speaker 1: can't afford it.

325
00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,880
Speaker 3: I was like, shouldn't there be a line of people

326
00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,400
Speaker 3: behind you? You are by yourself?

327
00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and does Diego Morales come on the show?

328
00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:43,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

329
00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could probably show up with a bodyguard if Diego.

330
00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,679
Speaker 1: Diego and I had a little back and forth a

331
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,720
Speaker 1: few months ago.

332
00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,319
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

333
00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,719
Speaker 1: He paid for India and everybody was eating their rubber chicken, Like,

334
00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,600
Speaker 1: what is this guy talking about? No, no, no, I

335
00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,719
Speaker 1: think I think that's really says a lot about you

336
00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,680
Speaker 1: that you can't you go play on your own, you

337
00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,040
Speaker 1: show up.

338
00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,720
Speaker 2: Well, I'm comfortable with our message. I'm comfortable talking to you,

339
00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,600
Speaker 2: I think, and I go places on my own, talk

340
00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,280
Speaker 2: to Hoosiers around the state. You asked me what I'm

341
00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,480
Speaker 2: going to do the next three months, I'm going to

342
00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,440
Speaker 2: get around to Chris cross our state to talk with people,

343
00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,800
Speaker 2: not just Democrats, Republicans, Independence alike. I'm going to talk

344
00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,400
Speaker 2: to them about our message. I'm going to hear their

345
00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,920
Speaker 2: where they're struggling in their in their life and how

346
00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,680
Speaker 2: I can address those concerns. And I look forward to

347
00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,880
Speaker 2: doing that. This is not a partisan office. I'm not

348
00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,280
Speaker 2: going to run it in a partisan Why it's time

349
00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,480
Speaker 2: we clean up the watfle spending, the corruption and the grift.

350
00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the fundraising. You're getting a lot of

351
00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,480
Speaker 1: big checks. What do you say to people who go, well, see,

352
00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,160
Speaker 1: he's just reaching into his dad's connections and he's just

353
00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, you know, just in the lineage, and he's

354
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,720
Speaker 1: just as a family business. What do you say to

355
00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,280
Speaker 1: those people.

356
00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,120
Speaker 2: I would say we're building momentum here because people believe

357
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,520
Speaker 2: in our message. You talked about the fundraising numbers. The

358
00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,640
Speaker 2: majority of the money that has come in in our

359
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,479
Speaker 2: fundraising effort thus far has been from Republicans rob Republicans.

360
00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,280
Speaker 2: That goes to show how dissatisfied people are with our

361
00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,760
Speaker 2: current state of politics. It's not partisan. People want leaders,

362
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,400
Speaker 2: and I hope to be one of these, one of

363
00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,080
Speaker 2: these leaders who bring people together, work with folks they

364
00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,560
Speaker 2: don't always agree with, unify people. That is our message

365
00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,760
Speaker 2: and that's why we've had early success in the fundraising department.

366
00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got some famous names on there, and I

367
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,800
Speaker 1: decided I need more rich friends. My grandpa used give

368
00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,560
Speaker 1: me like twenty bucks each month, so I decided I

369
00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,920
Speaker 1: need I need more rich friends real quick. I want

370
00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,480
Speaker 1: to get to know you a little bit because I

371
00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 1: think it's easy to say, oh, he's just coming back here,

372
00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,400
Speaker 1: he's doing this to use hoosiers. Talk a little bit

373
00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,160
Speaker 1: about your military service, because I think that says a

374
00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,360
Speaker 1: lot about somebody about that you could go any path

375
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,720
Speaker 1: you wanted to go, and you decided to be willing

376
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,040
Speaker 1: to wear the uniform for your country.

377
00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,080
Speaker 2: Well, thanks and you know. I people always ask me, well,

378
00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,840
Speaker 2: did your parents put pressure in your growing up? Your

379
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,160
Speaker 2: dad was a senator, whatever. The only pressure my parents

380
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,840
Speaker 2: put on me was to just give back and to

381
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,600
Speaker 2: try and serve. And you can do that in a

382
00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880
Speaker 2: ton of different ways. Besides being in the military. You

383
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,680
Speaker 2: can be you know, you can be a journalist, like

384
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you'd like a journalist.

385
00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,120
Speaker 2: That might be a dirty word these days, but there's

386
00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,600
Speaker 2: just a ton of different ways to do that. And

387
00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,680
Speaker 2: so I decided to join the Marine Corps because I've

388
00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,760
Speaker 2: been very lucky in my life, Rob I've had a

389
00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,200
Speaker 2: lot of opportunities open to me that you know, I'm

390
00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,200
Speaker 2: very grateful for, and I feel an obligation to give

391
00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,520
Speaker 2: back and just do my part to defend our country.

392
00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,920
Speaker 2: The best thing about the Marine Corps, the best thing

393
00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,040
Speaker 2: about the military, is that people come from all different

394
00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,320
Speaker 2: walks of life, from big cities, little towns, from all

395
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,600
Speaker 2: over and they vote for incredibly different people. We have

396
00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000
Speaker 2: different politics, but at the end of the day, in

397
00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,280
Speaker 2: the Marine Corps, I was an infantry officer in the

398
00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,840
Speaker 2: Marine Corps, right, it is my job as the leader

399
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,280
Speaker 2: to take all of these different people and orient them

400
00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,480
Speaker 2: toward a common goal. We didn't ask each other who

401
00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,120
Speaker 2: we voted for because it didn't matter. We had a

402
00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,240
Speaker 2: mission to accomplish. We need more of that spirit, that

403
00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,800
Speaker 2: type of leadership in our politics.

404
00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,880
Speaker 1: And thing I like about your military service is there's

405
00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,280
Speaker 1: more than just one file photo of you. This was

406
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,600
Speaker 1: one studio portrait.

407
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,200
Speaker 2: Is that diego?

408
00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not more, just means that's the one

409
00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,360
Speaker 1: we keep saying. Hey, before I let you go. It's

410
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,720
Speaker 1: interesting because everybody talks about your dad, your grandpa, but

411
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,240
Speaker 1: I want I want you to talk about your mom

412
00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,359
Speaker 1: for a minute, because I was talking to my mom

413
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,800
Speaker 1: the other day about you know, you're coming on the

414
00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,399
Speaker 1: show and she listens as to program, and when she

415
00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,800
Speaker 1: was talking about your family and were lifelong Hoosier so

416
00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,520
Speaker 1: we obviously remember when your your dad was governor and

417
00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,600
Speaker 1: then you know your grandpa was a senator. She wasn't

418
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480
Speaker 1: talking about any of that. She just said his mom

419
00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,440
Speaker 1: was such an outstanding, beautiful person. And I just want

420
00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,120
Speaker 1: to give you a moment to talk about that, because

421
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,760
Speaker 1: it probably gets old just talking about your dad and

422
00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,040
Speaker 1: your grandpa. And I know your mom was a big

423
00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,520
Speaker 1: part of your life.

424
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,760
Speaker 2: She was just an amazing woman in so many ways,

425
00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,040
Speaker 2: and I was just very lucky to have her as

426
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,399
Speaker 2: a mom. She busted my butt growing up trying to

427
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,040
Speaker 2: get me a study and do I'm looking At the time,

428
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,640
Speaker 2: I was not always a fan of it, but looking back,

429
00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,399
Speaker 2: I mean, everything I've done in my life or I've

430
00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,760
Speaker 2: been able to accomplish, has been ninety five percent my

431
00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,000
Speaker 2: mom's energy to me and my brother's lives. And I'm

432
00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,919
Speaker 2: very because that's not always a case with people and

433
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,680
Speaker 2: their kids. And I'm very lucky to have her. I mean,

434
00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,480
Speaker 2: she was just a wonderful lady. She was an attorney,

435
00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,959
Speaker 2: very accomplished in her own right. She put herself through

436
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,159
Speaker 2: law school. Rob she was from southern California, so she

437
00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,399
Speaker 2: always liked to have as a Hoosier by choice. Yeah,

438
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,600
Speaker 2: she put herself through law school waiting tables and doing

439
00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,720
Speaker 2: beauty pageants. And she always said she was Miss Southern California.

440
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,280
Speaker 2: She always said, you know, there was probably prettier girls

441
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,760
Speaker 2: on the stage, but they asked you kind of like

442
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 2: geopolitical questions and things like that. She knocked those out

443
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,960
Speaker 2: of the park. So she was just a wonderful lady.

444
00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,119
Speaker 2: We lost her gosh, four years ago now she passed

445
00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,400
Speaker 2: away from gioblastomo, which is an aggressive form of brain cancer.

446
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,720
Speaker 2: But I was just so lucky to have her for

447
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 2: all those years in my life.

448
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,879
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll have you back plenty of times for

449
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 1: the election. I just wanted to take a few moments

450
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,119
Speaker 1: to you know, people are talking about you, what you're doing,

451
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,680
Speaker 1: and look, I'm cheering for you because I think you're

452
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,240
Speaker 1: sort of the only only chance we've got to find

453
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 1: out how corrupt these Republicans actually are. And you know,

454
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,679
Speaker 1: I want to I want to thank you for running.

455
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,000
Speaker 1: I think you give the Democrats an actual chance in

456
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 1: this race, and we'll see how it goes. But yeah,

457
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,520
Speaker 1: we'll look forward to having you back a we get

458
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 1: closer to the election.

459
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 2: I look forward to it. Thank you to your listeners,

460
00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,399
Speaker 2: and Rob, thank you to you. You're a rare thing today, Oh,

461
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,520
Speaker 2: an independent voice who's willing to call out both sides

462
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 2: in politics, the corruption that we've seen in the state House,

463
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,880
Speaker 2: the waste will spending. It can exist in both parties.

464
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 2: Just happens to be Diego Morales as a Republican, but

465
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 2: we got to just as common sense taxpayers and just

466
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,919
Speaker 2: you know, normal people. We got to call this stuff out.

467
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 2: You're doing a good job at that.

468
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Bo, appreciate you.

469
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 5: Man.

470
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,360
Speaker 4: All right.

471
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 1: Kennel case Show ninety three WIBC. So Ethan's house got

472
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 1: shot up and I need more information. We'll get to

473
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,880
Speaker 1: that in just a second. It's Kennel and Casey Show.

474
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's out today. Ethan Hatcher from Satday Night

475
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 1: on the Circle in for Casey. Before we do that, though,

476
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,919
Speaker 1: so we interviewed Bo Bye. We'll be able to go

477
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 1: back and listen to it on the podcast if you

478
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 1: missed any of it. And I will say this, I

479
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 1: think we're going to get the race we want out

480
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: of this because I think you're going to be utterly

481
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 1: disappointed no matter who wins. Let's make it entertaining. And

482
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 1: I think the Buys are going to run the sort

483
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: of operation where they are going to pull the mask

484
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 1: back one ad at a time on who Diego Morales is,

485
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 1: how he's run that office and the Republicans, the Republican

486
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: Party that has been from most part totally complicit in

487
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 1: the behavior. Are you that confident that Diego Morales is

488
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 1: going to secure the nomination from the delegates at convention

489
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: because a successful bow Bye campaign essentially rests on Diego

490
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 1: Morales being the nominee. Yeah, okay, so I'm torn on

491
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 1: this because we all have, all members of decent society

492
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: have a vested interest in getting rid of Diego Morales's

493
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,719
Speaker 1: secretary of State, and if David Shelton does that at

494
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: the convention, then great, we'll move on. However, from the

495
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 1: perspective of this radio program and this radio station, the

496
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: best thing for us is going to be the bow

497
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 1: by Diego Morales. Sure. I mean you're going to see

498
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: a gajillion dollar spent. It's going to get super nasty.

499
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: And Diego may not want to tell nobody who paid

500
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 1: for India, but the buys, I think are going to

501
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 1: figure it out. I think they'll tell everybody who paid

502
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: for it. There's a fantastic contrast that can be drawn

503
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 1: between the candidates, and that's what you want for a

504
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: really energetic election is when there is a you know,

505
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: broad disagreement between the two central candidates, I mean even

506
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: down to their heights. You know, you got bow Bye,

507
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: a towering giant of a man, and tippy Toe's Diego,

508
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, who can barely get his head over the podium.

509
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: That's the one thing we were laughing during the break

510
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: that blew me aways. I didn't realize how tall he was.

511
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: Now I'm five eight, so I'm not exactly the best

512
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: guy to compare this to. But you're you're six four

513
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: six y four, keV. You saw him. He's every bit

514
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: as tall as Ethano. Yeah, it's very similar. And so

515
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: you're right, Diego's got to be five two. And if

516
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: those two get on a debate stage, which it does

517
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 1: raise the question. Last time, Diego totally chickened out and

518
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: refused to debate his opponents. Now he thought he had

519
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: it in the bag, and he did, and he did

520
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: he didn't have to. He's not going to have it

521
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 1: in the bag this time. But the contrast of those

522
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 1: two next to each other or at any and are

523
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: on stage, it's gonna blow people away.

524
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good point.

525
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: I could totally see Diego chicken it out of another debate,

526
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: and that would be a much bigger deal than him

527
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: doing that against Destiny Wells and Jeff Moore. So anyway, look,

528
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: and I know some people are thinking, well, it's gonna

529
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: be this hardcore interview. Look, we got a thirteen months

530
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: before the election's gonna be back a whole bunch of times.

531
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: Does he take policy positions? Is he as he comes

532
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: out with opinions on things, we'll have him on and

533
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: we'll do the we'll do the in depth. I think

534
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: he is. Look, I think you would be naive to

535
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: think if politics isn't in that family's blood and it's

536
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: sort of this you know, it's remember in Forrest Gump

537
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: where Lieutenant they give the history of Lieutenant Dan and

538
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: somebody had died in his family in every single war,

539
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: and they go all the way back to the founding

540
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: of the country. And look, I think it would be

541
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: naive to think, like that's sort of not what it's

542
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: like being a buye and that that was sort of

543
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: a fate of complay. This was always gonna happen. And

544
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna really have to hone his message

545
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,239
Speaker 1: to connect with people, because while the buy name and

546
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: that infrastructure, as it clearly is, will help him raise

547
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: the money he's gonna need, it's also going to hurt

548
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: him with some people because they'll do the hey guy

549
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: born with the silver spoon in his mouth. Yeah, But

550
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: I mean he is a character straight out of central casting,

551
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: as you often see, very good looking, he looks the part.

552
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: He's tall, he's charismatic, he's confident. But if he is

553
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: a savvy politician, he will read the tea leaves and

554
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: no one understand that winning a state wide office in

555
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: Indiana is an uphill battle when you are a Democrat. Sure,

556
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: And I think two things that I took away from

557
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: this one. They are going to destroy, if indeeded is

558
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: Diego Morales with these with these ads, and he will

559
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: have professional people around him from his father's orbit, from

560
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: the sort of you know, the Democrats who are left

561
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: who know what they're doing orbit. They will be very

562
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: surgical in how they how they take apart Diego Morales.

563
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: They will make this a referendum on Diego Morales. They

564
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: will put the mirror up and tell this state this

565
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: is who this guy is, and they get the polling shones.

566
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna get the opportunity to do it because most

567
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: people don't know who he is, and so I think

568
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: that's definitely definitely gonna happen. I also think he understands

569
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: that there is a major image problem with that party

570
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: that he's a part of, and he's going to have

571
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to convince people, hey, I'm

572
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: not one of these no kings people that's going to

573
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 1: be showing up screaming on the State House lawn and

574
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: that balancing act and the choice. Look, voters are gonna

575
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: have to make the choice. Will are you willing to

576
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: deal with what you know and what's going to come

577
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: out about Diego morales? Are you willing to deal with

578
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: four more years of that? Are you willing to take

579
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: a flyer and hope this guy can be moderate and

580
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: just do the job, which is to be an administrator

581
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: of the will the General Assembly. When it comes to

582
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: presenting himself, I think he needs to take a book

583
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: out of John Fetterman, the Betterman's Book, and you know,

584
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: just present himself as normal, somebody who can cross the

585
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: aisle with a bipartisan appeal. And if he fails to

586
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: capitalize on the many many many many many many MENI

587
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: meaning many many misdeeds of Tippy toe Ba Diego, then

588
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: the Democrats deserve to lose. All right, Uh man, this

589
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: is a horrible story. It's fascinating to me, but it's horrible.

590
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: You posted this on Twitter. You're talking about my house. Yeah,

591
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: so you own. We joke, but you owned several houses.

592
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: You are a land, You're you're living, renting houses to people.

593
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: Most of them are east side of the east side

594
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: of Indianapolis and the very side of India, I think,

595
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: is what the technical term is. And somebody shot up

596
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: one of your houses the other night. I mean when

597
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: you say they shot up like okay, Rob, See, this

598
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: isn't even the first time this has happened to me

599
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Remember a couple of years ago, at the

600
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: beginning of twenty twenty two, when my house got shot up.

601
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: I was caught in the crossfire. I've been your house.

602
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: I've seen the bullet. I was right a street shooting.

603
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: I had a couple of windows get shot out. Bullet

604
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: went right through my house or right through my bedroom

605
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: into my living room. And I thought that was bad

606
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: when I got caught in the crossfire of a little

607
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: more than a dozen bullets in the front of my house. Rob,

608
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: they turned this place where my tenants live into Swiss cheese.

609
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: It's like nothing I've ever seen. They Bonnie and Clydeed

610
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: the place, you know, the famous Bondie Clyde car.

611
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 4: They did that to a house.

612
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: They shot out, about a dozen windows, shattered concrete in

613
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: the foundation.

614
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it is a wreck, it's a mess.

615
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: Now, this shot through a closet door, the front door,

616
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: a bedroom door, many.

617
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 4: Holes in the walls.

618
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: It's no, this is not But let's I want to

619
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: point this out, not that it makes it any better,

620
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: but this is not the house you live in. This

621
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: is one of the houses you rent. Yes, this is

622
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: a rental property with people in it. There were people,

623
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: they were in it at the time. This happened at

624
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning. You know, these people are

625
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: just laying their heads down and sleeping. So what do

626
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: you what happens when that? Like, I mean, do they

627
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: call you? Obviously, I see they call the police for

628
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: like what what happens when a house gets shot up?

629
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: They called the police first, which was the correct course

630
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: of action, because there's not much I can do four

631
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning when somebody shoots up one of

632
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: my one of my properties.

633
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: So they called police.

634
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: Police showed up to take a report, they took pictures,

635
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: and then they left. I'm not sure if there will

636
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: be any more to the i MPD investigation than that,

637
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: But now we begin the cleanup process. So, and I

638
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: thought you, I mean, you posted, by the way, what's

639
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: your Twitter handles to you? You can find my Twitter

640
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: at Ethan Hatcher. My name e t h n h

641
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: A t c h E R at Ethan Hatcher. Okay,

642
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: And so you posted these photos that people want to

643
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: see them, and it's really staggering, like to see these

644
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: these pictures. But I thought your kind of description of

645
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: this was great, which is it's obviously dangerous and horrible,

646
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: but for you, as the landlord, it's incredibly disheartening because

647
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: you put a lot of effort into your properties to

648
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: make them livable and passable and something the community can

649
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, be proud of or you're you're proud to

650
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: live in and then people just do all this destruction

651
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: to your property and you've got to pay out of

652
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: your own pocket to fix the damage that they've done.

653
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: Trying to do the right thing and hold your head

654
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: up high in the city of Indianapolis is like trying

655
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: to swim with training weights on. You were constantly being

656
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: dragged down by the crap that democrats have let fester

657
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: in our city. And I directly connect activities like this

658
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: to the actions of Joe hogseet and Ryan Nears over

659
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: the past, you know, well hog set since twenty sixteen

660
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: meters since twenty nineteen. So do you have any faith

661
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: that one the person or people are gonna be caught

662
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: and two that anything will happen to them. Well, I mean,

663
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: if they're caught, you know, we can talk, especially if

664
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: they're a repeat offender.

665
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: You know, maybe this is the tipping point.

666
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: But you know, that's a big if they're even gonna

667
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: be caught, because I'm not sure they didn't catch They

668
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: were on foot, so they didn't catch any license plates

669
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: from nearby ring doorbell cameras or security cameras. There's just

670
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: not a lot to go on besides the shellcasings that

671
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: were retrieved. And I don't even know if IMPD retrieved

672
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: them all, because I found quite a few on the

673
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: sidewalk just myself looking around. And it's unbelievable that everybody

674
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: should go look at the photos. By the way, they

675
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: will just make you sick. This is sort of like

676
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: standard operating procedure now where some guy's house got shut up. Well,

677
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's Indianapolis, Like, it's just sort of I mean,

678
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: I put thousands of dollars into this place, Rob, it

679
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: is so disheartening. I mean, look, I put it was

680
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: at least thirteen hundred dollars for a new epoxy floor

681
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: coating in the front porch, which was concrete. It was

682
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars to repair some roof leaks. It was

683
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: several thousand dollars to rip out and replace all of

684
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: the electrical wiring in the property. We put a new

685
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: tub there and new tubs around, a new kitchen sink,

686
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: a new kitchen counter, new tile countertops, new kitchen flooring.

687
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: We repaired and redid some drywall work. We refinished all

688
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: of the hardwood flooring, put in a couple of new doors,

689
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: refinished all the antique woodwork, staying that poly ara thane.

690
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: That there's a lot, a lot, a lot of a

691
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: lot of work that went into making this single family

692
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: home an attractive place to live.

693
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: And that's all just you know, been literally.

694
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: Shot to pieces by these criminal freaks that Ryan Meres

695
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: and Joe Hogsnott have sympathy for. Yeah, I mean, it's unbelievable.

696
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: I hate that this happened to you. Hopefully your insurance

697
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: will pay for some of this.

698
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they will.

699
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: Rob because whether or not my insurance is going to

700
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: cover the damages is entirely hinged on whether this can

701
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: be construed as vandalism, because if it can't, and I

702
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: got my insurance agent looking into that right now, then

703
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm on the hook for all of these repairs. How

704
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: could somebody putting bullets through your house not be construed

705
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: as vandalism? Well, I'm not an insurance suggest to Rob,

706
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure how they interpret the language.

707
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, if they would have.

708
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: Spray painted the front of the house, yes, that that

709
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: would have been covered peppering it with bullets maybe maybe?

710
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break, Hammer joins us. Next

711
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Kennelly Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. Well, it's the room

712
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: full of people.

713
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: Now, look at this sausage fest in here biting people

714
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: onto my show.

715
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Now, you you've already been here today. I know, I

716
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: thought we were done with you roped back in? What

717
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: can I say? Kendalyn Herrick Show, that's John Herrick. He's

718
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: back again. I guess Jason Hammer is here.

719
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: The reason I've invited the news director into the studio

720
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: is that something we haven't done in a while. But

721
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: I think it's overdue. It's time to play a heated

722
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: round of Hit the Posts, and John Herrick's going.

723
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: To be the closer.

724
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: Baby.

725
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm hurtful at this. Now explain the game, Rob Well.

726
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: The way it should be done is I should have

727
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: a little clock that tells me how to explain the game,

728
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: how to talk. So you play the song before the

729
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: guy or girl starts singing. There's the music, you're supposed

730
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: to be talking up that time frame, and then you're

731
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: supposed to try to stop right before they stop singing. Now,

732
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: in a decent society, there's a little clock on every

733
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: program where you can look at the clock.

734
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: I didn't for excuses, I'm not very good at this.

735
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: You made this incredibly complicated. We play a song, you

736
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: talk it up being bada boo.

737
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: By the way, I can't tell you the amount of

738
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: people that texted me on how rude you were yes

739
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: to me me yesterday on the off the Rail segment.

740
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: So I just wanted you to know the public was

741
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: very dismayed at your rudeness during my Yeah. I'm sure

742
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: the public hates when you get yelled at.

743
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

744
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: Fine, I'm not buying it, Skippy I'm not Ethan. I

745
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: don't have to be nice to you. I hope you

746
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: get hit by a truck. Yeah, all right, now, this

747
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: is the way the game's gonna work.

748
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: Ethan.

749
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: You're in the mix too, just because you're the new

750
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: guy here. You don't get the skate. Are you going

751
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: to listen to music?

752
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, classical music.

753
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: Were you allowed to listen to music? It was a

754
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: weird childhood, Jason. I know there's a lot going on there.

755
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: So these are all songs that you know. I'm not

756
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: trying to throw you any curveballs. This isn't some b

757
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: side to a simply red song or something. All things

758
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: you've heard of, Ethan. You're gonna channel your inner music.

759
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: DJ.

760
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna start the song. You talk it up. You

761
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: stop talking right as the lyrics start. It's called hitting

762
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: the Post. Okay, okay. The song I've chosen for you

763
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: is Dance the Night Away from Van Halen.

764
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

765
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: It's a popular song. I think you'll know it once

766
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: it starts. Let's play the game.

767
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: You're listening to WIBC bringing you all the classic hits

768
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: from the nineteen eighties. Coming up is a little bit

769
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: of Van Halen, sit back, relax and enjoy the music.

770
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: You looked a little on the clock there.

771
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: I don't know this song. I don't know how we

772
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: need the clock.

773
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 5: Right.

774
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: You stink at this game? Right?

775
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: Oh, it's okay for you to yell at somebody, but

776
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: somebody makes fun of your petty little last that. It's

777
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: a problem, all right, So Rob, I kept it as

778
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: easy as I can for you. It's a Bruce Springsteen.

779
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: Sure you don't need your stupid little pie clock to

780
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: get a Springsteen song.

781
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 5: Right.

782
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've probably listened to this a million times

783
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: alone at night with your pants off. See, this is cheating.

784
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: I've never heard that song. And you give your paper

785
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: Ethan just sort of this. It's been around all crack Kevin,

786
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: fire it up. Oh, here we go ninety three w IVC.

787
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: It's the Kennel and Casey show. John Herrick's here again.

788
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: You don't know why. Hope he doesn't blow the whole segment.

789
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: Either way, it's gonna be great. Here's the boss.

790
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 4: You hit the post.

791
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Okay, nobody would ever hire you, but that's good. Off

792
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: the time, I just have liner cards. You know you're

793
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: supposed to be quick off the top of your head.

794
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: This does test skill, It really does, because.

795
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: I mean there's supposed to be there's gona be like

796
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: liner cards, like during this break, you read this, you

797
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 3: say this.

798
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: That's how you're supposed to know.

799
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: They tell you talk up a Springsteen song, and you

800
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: should be able to talk it up. You do three

801
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: hours of talking off the top of your head every day.

802
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: You couldn't talk up fifteen seconds of a song that

803
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: you like.

804
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure. You're a moron. All right, here

805
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: we go.

806
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 3: This is due to you this week, like you came

807
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: back from vacation and you've just been ask to me,

808
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: like what did I do to you? I'm a man

809
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: of the people. I'll give the people what they want. Sure,

810
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: all right, Harrik, No, hold on, no.

811
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: No, it's mine. Yes, Now.

812
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: I kept it in the eighties classic rock genre. Here

813
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: my wheelhouse is like hip hop from the nineties. But

814
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: I do like some Motley Crue, so I'm gonna go

815
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: a little different direction here for you. On some Motley Crue, Kevin,

816
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: you are rowing through nine songs in a row here

817
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: on the hammer in Nigel Show, coming up here just

818
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: a little bit.

819
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: Rob Kendall's gonna tell you how he gets his fake

820
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: hair to look so damn good.

821
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: Right now, the crew boom boom right.

822
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: There, that's how it's done.

823
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: He's good at this.

824
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: Now.

825
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: I'm excited for this one because Johnson never played the

826
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: game with us before.

827
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: That's right now. In the past, we've brought Kurt.

828
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: Darling when he used to work here into the newsroom

829
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: because he got real cocky. Right, Oh, I used to

830
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: work at a radio station blah blah blah, and he

831
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: came in here and he's stunk. It may have been

832
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 3: the worst performance we've ever had. So with that being said,

833
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: the pressure's on John. You've got to redeem the newsroom.

834
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: Okay, all right.

835
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: The song that shows for John we kept it in

836
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: the eighties, the rock Family Rebel Yell from Billy Idle.

837
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin hit it.

838
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to a song that

839
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 5: was voted the seventy ninth best rock song of all

840
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 5: time by aoh one in a public vote.

841
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: It is Billy Idol.

842
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: He's had so many hits, but here's another one on

843
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: ninety three WIBC. It is Rebel Yell, Billy Idol. Billy,

844
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: It's up to you now take it away, sir, all right.

845
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: We'll take it. We'll take it pretty good.

846
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: That was way better than Darling did.

847
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: You didn't chew out John he was short too, it.

848
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: Was he wasn't short by thirty seconds. Ehan. It's hard, No,

849
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: it's really hard. It's not an easy thing to do

850
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: as much.

851
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: Either when you have the clock tells you exactly when

852
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 3: to stop talking m hm, or you could just feel

853
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: it out and flow, or the Q carts that they

854
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: had a little clock radio.

855
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: You don't even really work on this show. Just sit

856
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: there and be quiet.

857
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: That's because I have my own damn show.

858
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Ah ooh weekend guy.

859
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: Okay, so highly rated show on Saturday night at nine.

860
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: Your damn right. It is my friend you actually both

861
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: of you are back this afternoon.

862
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: It's amazing.

863
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe in miracles?

864
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 4: Yes?

865
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: Now, How did Nigel have any vacation days left to

866
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: take a week long vacation? I don't know.

867
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 3: I think he's still got a few more days around

868
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: the holidays. What he might be trying to blow out? Uh,

869
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: he front loads his vacation time. As to where I

870
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: backload mine, right, I don't take hardly anytime off until

871
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: like now, and then usually Rob and I get yelled

872
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: at my management because we take the whole month of

873
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: December off.

874
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I don't understand how he's he appears

875
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: to also be backloading despite front loading. Yeah. I don't know.

876
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's got a different contract. But

877
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: good for him.

878
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: Take the days if you have him. I'm gonna be

879
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: leaving again here in about a week.

880
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: And a half.

881
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: Where are you going, Florida. I'm gonna be Florida, man,

882
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: Good for you.

883
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 3: New dude in the news possibilities traveling hammer right there

884
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: for Lauderdale. You getting like a condo or we have

885
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: like the rewards points at the hotels.

886
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: We stay in your hotel? Guy, aren't you kids with you?

887
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 5: No?

888
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: No, your kids are grown now. You don't have to

889
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: do that anymore. Yeah.

890
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: They're gonna have like a big Kidden play style house

891
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: party and the coupon Lady and I will be on

892
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 3: the beach.

893
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: What is coming up this afternoon?

894
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: It's beer sample Friday, so we're gonna just have some beverages,

895
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: have some fun, kick start the weekend, and have a

896
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 3: good time.

897
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: All right, stick around a lot more on the way

898
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: we'll figure out what it is during the break