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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen so many people angry about.

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Speaker 3: A peace deal. Do I think peace is possible? No,

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Speaker 3: because if Hamas is involved, it's impossible. AMASA is a

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Speaker 3: terrorist organization. The Palestinians voted for a terrorist organization. No,

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Speaker 3: the Palestindians are not innocent people. That's different than whether

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Speaker 3: or not innocent people got killed in this war.

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Speaker 2: Of course that happened.

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Speaker 3: Innocent people got killed on October seventh, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: But if you were to.

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Speaker 3: Talk to the college and the pseudo intellectuals on social media,

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Speaker 3: they don't care. That part doesn't matter. Remember, they're not

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Speaker 3: unhappy with peace. They're unhappy with the peace deal because

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Speaker 3: the objective is not peace. The objective is destruction. Tony Kats,

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you. I find

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Speaker 3: everything I do over at Tony kats dot com. Smoking

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Speaker 3: from Asylum. This is the Asylum thirteen Medula oblongata. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I do smoke when I do the show. This from Clee.

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Speaker 3: Find a bit of cigar making right over here. Simple, easy,

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Speaker 3: easy smoke. Enjoy it quite a bit. They're angry that

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Speaker 3: there's a peace deal, and when they can't, when they

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Speaker 3: find themselves unable to control their rational mind, they get

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Speaker 3: into the idea of well, you know, the hostages they

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Speaker 3: had it better than the people of Gaza themselves.

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Speaker 4: People who start to talk to the hostages who've only

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Speaker 4: just been released will find that it will take a

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Speaker 4: long long time for them to recover physically but also mentally.

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Speaker 5: It's been a terrible, terrible two years with them because

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Speaker 5: not only are they there, you know, they're probably been

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Speaker 5: treated better than the average Garsen because they are the

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Speaker 5: pawns and the chips that Hamas had. Now Hamas has

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Speaker 5: given up all its leverage, by the way, by giving

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Speaker 5: them all up.

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Speaker 4: So that is a victory for.

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Speaker 3: This is Christian lam on poor CNN who actually said

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Speaker 3: that those who were told to dig.

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Speaker 2: Their own graves had it better.

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Speaker 3: She has come out to apologize, and if you believe

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Speaker 3: that apology, you're more than welcome to.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you what.

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Speaker 3: To believe, but so were all perfectly clear. She was

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Speaker 3: ordered to apologize, she followed the order. No one believes her,

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Speaker 3: but the commentary, well, that is what is permeating these

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Speaker 3: people who are like why is it when CNN reports

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Speaker 3: Because CNN reported, CNN reported that hostages were being released

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Speaker 3: by Hamas and prisoners were being released by Israel, and

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Speaker 3: this deal was going down. The question that he asked

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Speaker 3: is why do they refer to the Israelis as hostages

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Speaker 3: but the Palestinians as prisoners?

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Speaker 2: Because the Israelis were held.

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Speaker 3: Hostage by Hamas and the Palestinians are prisoners who were

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Speaker 3: engaged in vicious, blood filled attacks against Israelis and were

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Speaker 2: Why would you argue such a thing?

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Speaker 3: Will you argue it when you do something as reprehensible

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Speaker 3: as Dave Smith and you say, I'm glad there's this

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Speaker 3: hostage swap going on. The Israelis didn't have Palestinian hostages.

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Speaker 3: That's not the case. Now, one could argue, in a

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Speaker 3: matter of policy, you don't like how Israel handles things,

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Speaker 3: for example in the West Bank. However, I consider the

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Speaker 3: West Bank Jerusalem neither here nor there. You can make

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Speaker 3: that argument. That would be a policy conversation. The idea

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Speaker 3: that the Israelis took these people, held them against their will,

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Speaker 3: kidnapped them from their homes or music festival is laughable

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Speaker 3: as it is ignorant, as it is pathetic, as it

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Speaker 3: is the continued hate of Israel, because the desire is

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Speaker 3: not peace, it is Israel's destruction. If the United States

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Speaker 3: did not give Israel a dime, these people Dave Smith included,

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Speaker 3: in my view, would still be engaged in well, you

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Speaker 3: know what Israel's doing. This is not obsession that is healthy,

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Speaker 3: to the extent that any obsession is healthy.

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Speaker 2: This is obscene. But this is who they are.

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Speaker 3: They cannot find themselves having any type of joy whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: They can't look at what has taken place and say

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Speaker 3: this is good.

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Speaker 1: Hey, nice work.

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Speaker 3: Even Joe Biden, we're talking about the former president, a

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Speaker 3: He came out to say great work. He put out

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Speaker 3: the post right here.

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Speaker 2: Let me bring it to you.

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Speaker 3: He puts out the post that says, I am deeply

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Speaker 3: grateful that's I had.

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Speaker 2: To find it.

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Speaker 3: For a second there, I couldn't find it. I am

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Speaker 3: deeply grateful and relieved that this day has come for

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Speaker 3: the last living twenty hostages who have been through unimaginable

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Speaker 3: hell and are finally reunited with their families and loved ones,

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Speaker 2: The road to this deal was not easy.

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Speaker 3: My administration worked relentlessly to bring hostages home, get relieved

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Speaker 3: to Palistinian civilians, and end the war. I commend President

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Speaker 3: Trump and his team for their work to get a

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Speaker 3: renewed cease fire deal over the finish line, he continues. Now,

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Speaker 3: with the backing of the United States in the world,

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Speaker 3: the Middle East is on a path to piece that.

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Speaker 3: I hope in doors at a future for Israelis and

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Speaker 3: Palestinians alike with equal measures of peace, dignity, and safety.

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Speaker 3: Now did he write it. I very much doubt that

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Speaker 3: he wrote it. I would have no reason to think

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Speaker 3: that he wrote it. However, as a matter of sentiment,

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Speaker 3: he says President Trump's name, he congratulates him for the

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Speaker 3: job done. Okay, And guys, you've seen people say, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden can talk about work done to get hostages back.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it'd be a weird thing to say he didn't.

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Speaker 3: But Biden got back this many and Trump only got

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Speaker 3: back this many. Trump Biden wins. I swear to you,

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Speaker 3: that's out there. Do you know how depraved you have

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Speaker 3: to be to do that.

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Speaker 2: What's different about what Trump.

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Speaker 3: Has done is that Trump has created a new paradigm.

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Speaker 3: What Trump has done it said, hey, we got a

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Speaker 3: better way to arrange this deal. What we can do

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Speaker 3: is we can put together a situation by which everybody's

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Speaker 3: got a little skin in the game. Now, it's weird,

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Speaker 3: it's awkward, it's a thing. I get that. I wholeheartedly

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Speaker 3: not for everybody. But what if everybody had a little

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Speaker 2: Couldn't we have peace?

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's no room for Hamasa there, there's no room

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Speaker 3: for Iran in there, to which these countries, Muslim countries

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Speaker 3: So the fundamental shift in so much of this is

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a huge difference in the thought process.

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Speaker 3: The thought process must involve the idea that one cannot

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Speaker 2: What I just said was.

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Speaker 3: Western civilization, which is to say, any civilization that wants

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Speaker 3: with the Islamist. My last name is spelled Katz. Quote me,

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Speaker 3: what did I say?

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Speaker 2: That's wrong? Did I? What did I say? That isn't

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Speaker 2: completely on point? Can't be done.

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Speaker 3: So no one could coexist with Iran, No one could

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Speaker 3: coexist with these terror groups.

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Speaker 2: Hamas has blow the Hooti rebels. It cannot be done.

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Speaker 3: And you'll notice that there are a lot of these

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Speaker 3: of nations that still have to learn. This is the

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Speaker 3: headline from the Washington Times. The Washington Times, the story

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Speaker 3: wave of knife attacks underscores germany struggle to assimilate refugees.

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Speaker 3: Do you know why that is Germany? Because you cannot

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Speaker 3: assimilate an Islamist can't happen. They don't want to assimilate.

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Speaker 3: They have no interest in the assimilating. They want you

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Speaker 3: That's what they want. Germany is learning what it is

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Speaker 3: that the UK has already seen very close and up front,

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Speaker 3: we really have to understand the underlying cause of why

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Speaker 3: getting on board. The Egyptian president i'l Cisi, who was

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Speaker 3: there and hosted this event in charlel Sheik in Egypt,

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Speaker 3: has said, you know, playing up to President Trump in

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Speaker 3: the region. And that's really this is our last shot.

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Speaker 3: That was the commentary, This is our last shot. Now,

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Speaker 3: not everybody is on board. You had a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: No, No, this was the Turks.

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Speaker 3: Turks didn't want Israel there and Airdwan didn't want to

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Speaker 2: You guys, you.

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Speaker 3: Spend your money and you do the thing, and you

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Speaker 2: We don't deals.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna kill these terrorists who are trying to kill

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Speaker 3: take care of those people, to which yes, they want to.

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Speaker 3: And I would argue more not the Turks don't want

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Speaker 3: a fight. The Saudis have been fighting Iran for this power.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's got skin in the game. It's what Steve.

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Speaker 3: Bannon said, This is very bad for Nettan Yahoo because

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Speaker 3: it's a two state solution. I think Steve Bannon's just

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Speaker 3: engaged in his best Tecker Carlson impression. He's just wrong there.

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Speaker 3: But one could see it as is this a two

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Speaker 3: state solution because Palesidians get to stay, they just don't

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Speaker 3: get the hamas leadership. Well, once you don't have the

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Speaker 3: hamas leadership, now you have to be able to keep

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Speaker 3: because they've been told they have to kill Jews their

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Speaker 3: whole lives. But if there's a no, if investment in

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Speaker 3: want to see it, doesn't want to think about it. Rather,

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Speaker 3: they think of Palestinian prisoners as hostages.

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Speaker 2: They want to make the claim that the.

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Speaker 3: Hostages were in the Israeli hostages weren't treated so badly.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, you take off your ribbon, Cornell West excoriating

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Speaker 3: Scott Jennings on CNN. You take off your ribbon for

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Speaker 3: the Israeli hostages. What about the Palestinian people? What about

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Speaker 3: the Palistinian people who voted for Hamas, who helped with

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Speaker 3: the hiding, who engaged roadblocks, human roadblocks of the Red Cross,

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Speaker 3: who were trying to get the hostages out. But what

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Speaker 3: are the Palestinians who are right now being killed by

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Speaker 3: Hamas for allegedly collaborating with Israel. You cannot have a rational,

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Speaker 3: free society coexist with Islamists. Christians cannot coexist with Islamists.

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Speaker 3: Jews cannot coexist with Islamists. Muslims cannot coexist with Islamists,

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Speaker 3: because no one can coexist with the Islamist. You want

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Speaker 3: peace first, the Islamist has to be stopped. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if we're going to get to the heart of the

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Speaker 3: matter here, it is Germany, the UK Gaza only have

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Speaker 3: one thing in common. Yet the Left finds itself supporting that.

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Speaker 3: Why in the world does that happen? Let us discuss it,

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Speaker 3: keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony

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