1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: So there are dozens of small and mid sized cities 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: across the US they're offering cash or housing perks or 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: extras to attract people to live there. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: To move there. Why would they do this. I would 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: want fewer people living in my city, not more. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: This is part of a platform called Make My Move. 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Oh geez, and the goal is to boost local economies 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: and fill population gaps and less expensive areas population gaps. 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: What does that even mean? 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Why are they doing this? Well, let's see, each worker 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: brings eighty thousand dollars to the local economy. 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: Here's the thing, the worker. 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: Anytime there's some economic development project, they always talk about 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: the jobs, the job to the community unless the person 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: is going to live there. As you said, is completely 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: irrelevant because the income tax is paid where the person lives, 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: not where they work. So when you look on your 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: page check you live in Marion County, I live in 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: Hendricks County. You're gonna see a different county and a 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: different tax rate for where we live. And even though 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: we both work in Indianapolis, my money goes to Hendricks County, 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: yours goes to Marion County. Now, there's been a big 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: fight for years to flip that, which it probably makes 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: some level of sense. Now, the donut counties have fought 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: this because so many people come to Indianapolis to work. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: But you actually think about it, where do I use 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: the roads the most? 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: Where you live? 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: The city of Indiana No, the city of Indianapolis. I 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: drive you everywhere, like I mean everything, I tried. 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: That's saying like I mean I'm saying in terms of working, 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm making income. That's a perhaps, which is why as 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: part of the road funding bill this year, the city 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: was given an opportunity with they'll match I think fifty 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: millions the number. 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: With the crossroads that the state would match the number. 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: But the reality of it is the majority of road 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: travel I do for sixty five seventy No, it's an interstate, 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: of course. But then the downtown area, as glorious as 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: these roads are, is the city of Indianapolis. Hendricks County 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: gets money off of me, and I use very little 43 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: Hendricks County roads other than to get and they're all 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: town roads that I use anyway to get from my 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: house to the interstate. 46 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 3: And so that's been a battle for quite a while. 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: But yes, driving in downtown is still hell on Earth 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: and avoided at all costs. 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: Well, let's see if any of these perks will entice 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: you to move Noblesville. Yes, offering fifteen thousand in perks, 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: including five thousand in cash. They also have a wellness stipend, 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: a co working space, and theme park passes. 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait. 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 2: If you've been if let's say you're like me, you've 55 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: lived in the same place for forty years, and you've 56 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: been an upstanding citizen, and you've paid your taxes, and 57 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: you you've volunteered for stuff, and you've helped the community, 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: you get nothing. They're not giving you anything right for 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: being the person who made the place people want to live. 60 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: You get nothing. But if you're a foreigner, both foreigner 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: the sense of out of state or in many cases 62 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: you're in on an H one B visa, you're a 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: foreigner to the country. 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: They'll pay you to come. 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: They'll pay you to move there. Noblesville population of seventy 66 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: five thousand people. Now, there are a couple of stipulations here. Yes, 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: you have to be eighteen or older, and you have 68 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: to have a job, household job making at least eighty 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: thousand dollars annually. 70 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: But if I'm making eighty thousand annually and I've been 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: there and done the things that made the place a 72 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: place people want to be, I get nothing. But if 73 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm a foreigner that comes in, you'll give them money. 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: You also get an exclusive welcome event to speak directly 75 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: to the mayor. 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: But if I've been there for forty years, I don't 77 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: get anything. Correct what planet? Look these people that want 78 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: to be critical of us saying, oh, you guys are 79 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists. When we talk about being replaced, what other 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: conclusion could you come to? What other conclusion could you 81 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: come to other than we are being replaced? That the 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: fact that they will pay some foreigner to come in 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: and move into and move into their city. But if 84 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: you've made it a great place, you get nothing. You 85 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: don't get the meeting with the mayor, you don't get 86 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: the welcome event, you don't get any event. You get 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: nothing other than a higher, never ending, going up tax bill. 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: That's what you get. 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: But if you're from outside, well, red carpet baby, well. 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: How could you come to any other conclusion than we 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: are being replaced? 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: In Fort Wayne, which is the second most populated city 93 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: in the state, more than two hundred and seventy three 94 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: thousand people living there. The city is offering a total 95 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: of fourteen four hundred and eighty dollars in incentives to 96 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: those living outside of Indiana. Got to be eighteen or older. Again, 97 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: have to have a job making at least fifty thousand 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: dollars annually. Some of the incentives include five percent in 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: down payment assistance and closing. 100 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: Costs on a house. Wait, wait, which city is this? 101 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Fort Wayne? Fort Wayne discounts and other perks at one 102 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: of Fort Wayne's favorite local breweries. Plus you get two 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: complimentary passes to the Fort Wayne Botanical Conservatory. 104 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: But what is Fort Wayne giving to people who have 105 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: lived there their whole lives and been really good citizen? 106 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: You get nothing. Even if you just move across town. 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: You're one side of Allen County to the other. 108 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, a very uplifting story, Casey, thank 109 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: you for that. You're welcome.