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Hello, Robert, and you know him as the 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: owner and operator of Indiepolitics Dot org A Duela keeps Shabaz. 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: Hello, if I'm gonnaquot Charlton Hesse for the classic film 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: Planet Apes, It's a madhouse, It's a mad House. 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: Remember that's a good one. 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 2: Remember when we were like, well, sessions over, it's gonna 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: be really hard to find things to talk about all 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: summer long. 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: The summer's been better than the session. 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 5: It's Abdul. You were hoping for calm. 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: He's never hoping for calm. He would go out of 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: business if they were called. 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: My blood pressure is always hoping for calm. Yes, so 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: I know. I was how to increase my dosage with 48 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: my medication a couple of days ago. It's like, wow, 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: blood payers start to get back up again. I wonder 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: what the heck's going on with? 51 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: Okay, this is probably I mean, you guys will be better, 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: have better, kind of a better perspective on this than 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: I will, because you've been around it longer. But this 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: is I think the weirdest story I've ever heard in 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: all of Indiana politics and government. You guys know what 56 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about today, So before we died, well, okay, 57 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: obviously we're we're going to talk about these allegations of 58 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: AI porn being shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office. Jim 59 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: thirty years in the Indiana Senate, You ever hear a 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: weirder story? Than artificial intelligence pornography of a state reps 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: wife being shared in the allegations of such in the 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Governor's office. 63 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 5: Never n e v er never and you never say never, 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 5: But never have I heard something so ghastly and so 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 5: it's weirdest, it's just it is just I'm incredulous about it. 66 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: You your turn. You twenty years. That's not quite thirty, 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: but that's close. You've covered Indiana politics and government for 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: twenty years. Where does allegations of AI porn of a 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: state reps wife being shared in lieutenant governor's office rank? 70 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: Well, you also got through in thirty because that's been 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: ten years in Illinois. Well, that's true, and as I 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: run through the Illinois Indiana archive, I have to echo 73 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: what my distinguished colleague from Lawrence Carmel just said, except 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: in ev ah neva. 75 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's kind of set what's been going on. 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: I'd assume most people who listen to this program are 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: very into the Indiana politics and government. But just in 78 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: case they haven't, So the director's. 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: Cut, No, no, this is the the trailer is just 80 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 3: about the right side. Yes, all right. 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: So Tom Labianco is a national freelance journalist. People around 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: here probably know him. He wrote for The Indie Star 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: for several years and and the Associated Press. He's wrote 84 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 2: wrote a big book on Mike Pence and his time 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: in a White House. He wrote, you've seen him on 86 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: the MSNBC, Fox News. I mean, he's a known national quantity. 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: And he comes out with this story over the weekend 88 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 2: in which employees from the Lieutenant Governor's office, like high 89 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: ranking people in the Lieutenant Governor's office. 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: Allegedly. 91 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: Viewed and shared what is described as artificial intelligence pornography 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 2: of and we'll go ahead name him because he's he's 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: he's publicly spoken on this. Craig Haggard's wife. Craig Haggard 94 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: is a state rep. His district covers part of Johnson 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: County part of Hendricks County. And allegedly his wife was 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: appearing in Who's Your Idol? Is that the name of 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: the program? 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 5: We were both there. 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: This is oh you were there, I was there. Nobody 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 4: made a video of you allegedly no, but she. 101 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 5: Was wonderful that night. So you have a beautiful voice. 102 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: I made a video of myself. 103 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that looks like the Uh. 104 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: His wife appeared so this is a fundraiser of some sort, right, 105 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: where the politicians put the politics aside for an evening and. 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: Raise money for the Mental Health Association of Indiana. 107 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: Okay, and they do whatever their talent is. Singing could 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: be magic, it could be for whatever. 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: For those political junkies. Abdullah has appeared as pope one year. 110 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: So that's it's a very fun. 111 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: Evening, okay. And then a song and dance called the 112 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: Vatican Rag. 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: Sure, why not? Seems about right? Okay. 114 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: So so so that so allegedly, I mean not alleged, 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: she performed an event I believe with Hunter Smith, who 116 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: is a state rep now probably best known for people 117 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: as the punter of the Indianapolis Colts. Correct, and allegedly 118 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: based on this report that Labianco put out that two employees, 119 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: one person was was an attorney for the office and 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: another is a high ranking person in the house. Now 121 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: he named them, and we'll get to that in a second. 122 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: He put there, like their names in the story were 123 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: sharing some sort of manufactured artificial intelligence pornography of this 124 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 2: woman doing something or appearing in a way in which 125 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: she the things she didn't actually do, or way in 126 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: which she didn't appear. Did I get the did I 127 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: summarize that direct while we don't know, I don't, I don't, 128 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, if you're basically if you 129 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: have okay, here's a question, if you have it on 130 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: your phone. All this is allegedly of course, if you 131 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: have this on your something on your phone and I say, Jim, 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: look at this, that's sharing it, right, absolutely, okay, Well, 133 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: if more than one person saw it, somebody had to 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: be the share. 135 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: Err, whether it's whether it's electronically or you put up 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: you stream it. 137 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: I just want to clarification. 138 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And basically what it was. Apparently she's on 139 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: the the AI generated image is her basically top lessons 140 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: kind of jiggling up and down. 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I knew you would know what exactly was 142 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 4: going on. Now. Now, this allegedly took place. 143 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: In the office, and based on this reporting from the sherring, 144 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: not the jiggling. 145 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think any of that happened. 146 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: I think that's the problem is that these people are 147 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: alleged to have shared something that didn't actually take place. Now, 148 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: the other background on this is both at a state 149 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: and now federal level, this is could be depending on 150 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: what exactly might have taken place a criminal act of 151 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: some sort. It's not just if it did happen. Hey, 152 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: that's totally inappropriate. But now both Indiana and the federal governments, 153 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: to understanding, have criminalized the behavior. 154 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: Yep. 155 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so I've set the stage perfectly here. Okay, 156 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: So Labianco, the journalist who wrote the story, now he 157 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: has written two stories on this, and I'll try to 158 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: get as much of this as we possibly can. Talked 159 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: to beckwith Michael beckwith the lieutenant governor who oversees the office, 160 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: and he basically said it didn't happen, and he done 161 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: an investigation, which he doubled down on a Tara Hote 162 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: town hall the other night, and he knows these guys, 163 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: and this didn't happen, and he tried to blame it 164 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: on somebody who was recently released from his office. All Right, 165 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: My question to both of you, what sort of investigation 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: could the lieutenant governor have possibly done in essentially one 167 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: day to determ and this didn't happen. Did he have 168 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: a team of forensic experts come in and analyze every 169 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: cellular telephone of every employee or every computer what possible. 170 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: That is the first red flag to me is yeah, 171 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: we investigated, it didn't happen. What could you have done 172 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: in one day? 173 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: Well, just like this, honey, are you looking for my purse? Yes, 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm looking for it. Oh, don't see it. 175 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: I look for it as you can't see. 176 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: This is the radio. Abdul very carelessly looked under the 177 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: desk there, very quick. 178 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: Like, nope, I'll see anything under here. 179 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: Nope. 180 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: We're all good. 181 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: Let's get back to the baseline. First of all, I'm 182 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 5: sick about this. It's bizarre, isn't it. Well, I'm sick 183 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: about missus Haggard. We're raising money for mental health and 184 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: she's giving a great performance and regard we haven't seen 185 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: this video, but regardless of it, for someone to go 186 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 5: up on stage and do that and now she's literally 187 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 5: attacked is just it's ugly. 188 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's let's pivot off that, because again, there's 189 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: no way we're gonna cover all of this in the 190 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: thirty minutes. We're a lot of but we're gonna do 191 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: our best, Okay. So this is the this is the 192 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: issue right now. Haggard has said, and I think he 193 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: told the Indie Star earlier this morning. Wednesdays are putting 194 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: this together. He has not actually seen the video, but 195 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: you guys both know Labyanco, right. 196 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 5: Yes, he's a credible, a good reporter. 197 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: Guys like that, generally one of the problems with Micah 198 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: and the people around him is Michael wants to be 199 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: in the media. He doesn't understand how the media works. Yea, 200 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: and without being able to get inside Labiyanco's life or 201 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: his headquarters or whatever. Guys like that, they generally start 202 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: at the end. It's like writing a season of television. 203 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: How are we gonna end with the big reveal? And 204 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: then we write the whole thing leading up to the 205 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: big reveal. Guys like that generally don't want to even 206 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: do a story like this, much less name the names. 207 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: He named these people as in essentially saying they could 208 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: be guilty of a crime. They could, mister attorney, that 209 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: could totally open you up to all sorts of legal stuff. 210 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: Right. Well, let's put it this way. 211 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: If you accused somebody of this. 212 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: And they didn't do it, and you named them, that's 213 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: defamation per se. 214 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: Right, So for a guy like that now and then. 215 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 3: And by the way, it's even higher standard if it's 216 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: for public officials, because they have a higher standard than 217 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: than regular people. And so the higher arms of the 218 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: political food chain, the more damages you could possibly get. Now, 219 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: if it's meats all the character, if it meants all 220 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: the qualifications of defamation. Right, So the what floored me 221 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: about the reporting is he named the people and in 222 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: order to do that, if he doesn't have some sort 223 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: of smoking gun, I just can't see a journalist of 224 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: his credentials, of his experience. Doesn't mean he didn't, but 225 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: I can't see him making that mistake. And you have 226 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 3: to that would be that would be journalism one O 227 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: one type errorst to do that. And and I've known 228 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: Lebanco for years. 229 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's fire behind this smoke. 230 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking about this sort of off and on 231 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: while he's been working on it. What are you hearing? Like, 232 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: I'm hearing this blah blah blah blah. 233 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 5: And everybody listening to this knows this, but it needs 234 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: to be repeated. The second most powerful office in the 235 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: state of Indiana is the Marion County Prosecutor. The estate 236 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: House sits in Marion County, and if they are sniffing 237 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 5: around doing interviews or have an interest in there, including 238 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 5: with the federal government. There is fire behind this smoke. 239 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: So so what you're discussing is lo Bianco has reported this. 240 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: Haggard appeared to confirm it in an Indie Star used 241 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: to came out this morning that the Marion County Prosecutor's 242 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: office is doing some sort of investigation into something now 243 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: without revealing. 244 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: To get that grin off your face, without revealing too much. 245 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: There are rumors that there are multiple things potentially being investigated, 246 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: and this just happens to maybe be something that. Now there, 247 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: let's throw that one on top of the We don't 248 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: know that for sure. That's just you and I running 249 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: separate circles. And if we've both heard the same thing, 250 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: that's very interesting. 251 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: Right, So you know, it's like it's like a multi 252 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: layered political cake. You know, we were last week, We're 253 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: like layer four and we're like, oh, let's let six, seven, 254 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: and eight on top of that. 255 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: Okay, so we go on. 256 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: Jim, I just wanted to preface that for people that 257 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: that is why you're referencing the Marion County Prosecutors. 258 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we've all now we've all heard this and 259 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: and the fact that that's actually bubbling to the surface 260 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 5: in all of our circles. It really means that this 261 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: is a very serious issue, maybe possibly other issues as 262 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 5: well as the fact that there's a circular firing squad 263 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: going on at the state House and Republicans are attacking Republicans. 264 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,119 Speaker 5: And I've said on this program, I've gotten two calls 265 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 5: in the last forty hours, and one of them was 266 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 5: citing that I on Abdul's TV show, I made a mention, 267 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 5: a prediction that Diego Morales is going to win the 268 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: convention and win win reelection next year because of his 269 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: ability to go into linkod day dinners and contact and 270 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 5: he's got great support, you. 271 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: Mean his ability to campaign twenty four to seven using 272 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: state money. 273 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 5: But he is definitely doing that. But my point in 274 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: saying all this is two calls. One guy. One person said, 275 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: one delegate said that Jim, we are outside the bubble 276 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: of which you speak and we are sickened by what 277 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 5: Diego Morales this is doing in office. And then second 278 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 5: the second person called me and said, you know, we 279 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 5: we don't approve what what what's happening on the statewide 280 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 5: character list is something that that we didn't expect when 281 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 5: we voted for them in the convention. As as a delegate, well, 282 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: I've never heard that. 283 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: Befo pulling what's left of his hair out over there. 284 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 5: Yip. I think we all know. 285 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: I think I think we all knew. Diego and several 286 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: of us tried to warn the public. Look, you may 287 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: not like Holcombe and Hally Sullivan's kind of a turd, 288 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: but this guy, this is a whole another level of bad. 289 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: You don't want to and David Shelton's running if you'd 290 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: like a third option, which nobody would blame you for. 291 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: But but I've. 292 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: Just never really heard from delegates. 293 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: Well, but it's with Micah. So this is the problem 294 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: with Micah. 295 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: He doesn't understand and he, clearly, based on the people 296 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: he surrounded himself within this office, didn't want to understand. 297 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: You don't get to make the rules as you go 298 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: along when you enter state government. There is a roadmap 299 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: that everybody has to or supposed to abide by. And 300 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: you are nodding feverishly, yes, this is not you know, 301 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: there are a. 302 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: Lot of people coloring outside the lines in state government. 303 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: The problem is, though the people who and I warned 304 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: him about this, I like everything else. I told him 305 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: I was ignored order, which was received. I said, the 306 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: problem you have is they hate you. There's lots of 307 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: people color outside the lines. They're not hated. People aren't 308 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: looking to get them. They're part of the team. Say 309 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: you ain't part of the team. You have to drive 310 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: fifty five and fifty five and two hands on the wheel, 311 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: make sure that seatbelts buckled. And I don't think Micah 312 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: has ever appreciated what the ramifications of that, or the 313 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: people in this office have appreciated with the ramifications of 314 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: that could be. And you know, this is where he 315 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: has no friends in the state House. He has no 316 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: one to stand up and go no way. 317 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 5: Governor Bron's going to save him. 318 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course not. Now Bron's doing the me so 319 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: stupid routine right now. He had some gaggle yesterday where 320 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: he's like, I was shocked to learn there was gambling 321 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: going on in this establishment. But you know, deep down, 322 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: the governor's office has a pretty I mean, you'd be 323 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: floor if they did have a pretty good overview of 324 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: what was taking place. 325 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: But what this reminds me of is remember Curtis Hill. 326 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: Curtis Hill first got elected. Remember and I was off 327 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: in a position on their established like media persons like 328 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: woll I'm flatter to know you're a good guy, good friend. However, 329 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: you're probably gonna need a friend on the outside. And 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: here's my advice to you for the first couple of years. 331 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: Just learn the building, learn where the bathrooms are. Now 332 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: go go go to every districts. Yeah yeah, go go 333 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: go to every district with a big, big check, like 334 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: you know, we're taking the Attorney General's office on the road. 335 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: And build up your church the whole nine yards. Then 336 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 3: that way when you when you get ready to run 337 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: for governor, which we know that it was fundamentally that's 338 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: what you want to do. You got, you got everything, 339 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: your team player, blah blah blah blah. 340 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: Then next thing you know, yeah yeah, in a very 341 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: short isn't is this sounfamiliar scandal in a very short 342 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: period amount of time. 343 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: I think it's advice that Micah received as well. 344 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: Well. 345 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: It is. 346 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: But it's whether it's the car, which I'm not saying 347 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: there's anything illegal about the car, but it's you're you're 348 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: going to get shredded on it because you claim to 349 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: be different, you claim to be better you claim to 350 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: be a person who's gonna go there and fight the system. Well, heck, yes, 351 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: you know. Say what you want about Diego. For all 352 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: his bookrap, he's a total team player. Oh, he's mister 353 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Republican establishment. So they generally, and I think we've kind 354 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: of proven a lot of the money that fuels Diego 355 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: touches a bunch of these other people, so they they're 356 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: not gonna get too aggressive on getting to the bottom 357 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: of what's going on with Diego Micah though he don't 358 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: raise no money, and everybody hates him, and he goes 359 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: out of his way to be hated. And this is 360 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: where you run into a major problem now, especially I 361 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: there's an act of criminal investigation if indeed there is 362 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: of him going ouh, we investigated it. These guys didn't 363 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: do it. I didn't know anything about it. Well, if 364 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: they can prove any of that is false, take away 365 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: the potential criminal side of anything publicly. Now you've been 366 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: caught in a lie, doesn't mean he is lying. It 367 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: means if that any of that gets disproven, your toast. 368 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: And by the way, to please keep in mind, you'll 369 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: you'll know. One starts when things start to get real 370 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: when staff starts lawyering up. 371 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: Which my understanding has already happened, or well, former staff. 372 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: I gotta call my good friendship Oils. So it's probably 373 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: gonna be needing this help relatively soon here. 374 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: Well, so let's let's kind of go back to the 375 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: big picture here. Though two guys have been accused of this, 376 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: it's a major thing. You would think these guys. Now, 377 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: everybody handles things differently, right, nobody's under any obligation to 378 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: do anything, but they would be aggressively out there, especially 379 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: as Micah as much as Micah loves the fight, and 380 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: you know they would be like, this absolutely didn't happen. 381 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna sue Labianco for everything he's worth. We can't 382 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: believe we'd be accused of this. And Mike could be 383 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: right there beside him and charge here we go. See, 384 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: we want about Trump? When that story about him and 385 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: Epstein came out in the Wall Street Journal, how fast 386 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 2: did he sue? 387 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 4: Hey? Quick? Right? 388 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 5: But absolutely it's it's radio. 389 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 4: Silence from everybody other than micas so far. 390 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and remember the problem with the problem with with 391 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: with suing is you gotta have at least some chance 392 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: of winning otherwise they're considered for fraudulent and frivolous and 393 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: then it gets thrown out and it's costing you money 394 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 3: even more than what you're suing for. 395 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 5: What's going for? Uh, what's the positive for this whole 396 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 5: issue is that it's summer. People aren't paying attention. They're 397 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 5: getting back from from vacation. It's the political junkiees, it's 398 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 5: the delegate, it's the establishment, and the people inside the 399 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 5: inside the state House are paying attention. 400 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: You see. But I would argue my friend at the 401 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: end of the day though, that's at this at this 402 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: stage of the game, that's all that matters. I always 403 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: had a theory that with me and my you know, 404 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: huge shopping me nameless is now in Illinois prison right now. 405 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: Where rapid issues there's there's different elements to it. There's 406 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: pulk element, there's the talks element. There's also legal element 407 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: and what's so to talk about in the legal in 408 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: the legal under Yeah exactly. And I was in a 409 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: small claim sport the other day and I was like, 410 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: rannor thank you very much. 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We're we're taking a 451 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: dive into these allegations and this story, the stories plural 452 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: that have come out from Tom la Bianco's a freelance 453 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: journalist alleging that artificial intelligence pornography was viewed shared inside 454 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: the Lieutenant governor's office and the fallout of that of 455 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: uh and again, well we'll name him because he's he's 456 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: spoke of public about it. Craig Haggard is a state rep. 457 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: His wife And this is the other thing I've said. 458 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 3: About the way artificial intelligence point is called AIP. You 459 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 3: do you know me what? Huh? It's it's a it's 460 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: an old it's an old hip hop song. Down with 461 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: opp Oh. 462 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 4: I see what you're doing there. Okay, very good. 463 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 5: National problem, well, yes it is. 464 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: And this and this is other problem is because the 465 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 2: first lady was involved in this, the federal side of 466 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: this legislation, stuffy authorities are looking for somebody to make 467 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: an example out of it. 468 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is can imagine what the Democrats 469 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: are doing right now if they were just halfway organized, Well, 470 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: my god, from like here you go, here you go, 471 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: here's another one. 472 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: Here's the things that need to be reiterated, though, Okay, 473 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 2: nobody I've heard publicly has said they've seen the video 474 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: in a public statement. Now, Abdul, you and I have 475 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: some sources who have said some stuff, But in terms 476 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: of publicly, nobody has claimed to have actually viewed the video. 477 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they have itIt just means nobody said publicly 478 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: I saw this video. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty 479 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: of anything. All we know is that the Marion County 480 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: prosecutor allegedly is looking into something. 481 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: Again, Abdul, you and I. 482 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: Have some information that we've been told, but it doesn't 483 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: mean it's you know, it doesn't mean it's accurate, and 484 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: so it's just but but the sniff test says, what 485 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: a weird story for someone to make up. Like, if 486 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: you're like, I'm going to try to get Micah beck 487 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: With and his office and I'm going to pick these 488 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: two obscure. 489 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: Guys, It's just like playing the words cellar game. You 490 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: just throw the words up on the board and think, Okay, 491 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: we didn't make a headline out of these words right here. 492 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 3: That's what this feels like. 493 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: Well, if I was Micah beck With right now, I'd 494 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 5: be I'd be yelling from the balconies. If this is 495 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 5: not true, this did not happen, and and my office 496 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 5: is being besmirched because of some rumor going on, but I. 497 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 4: Don't hear that well. 498 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 3: And the other part of this is actually I want 499 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: to say he did tell so and recently that they 500 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 3: shouldn't believe Rob Kendle me because we're both liars. 501 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: So well, the problem is the problem is that Micah 502 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: claims they investigated it. What did and you'll come back 503 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: to what we talked about earlier. What investigation did you 504 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 2: do in one day? Right like again to the abduing thing. 505 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: Did you just look under the desk and ask the 506 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: person did they do it? 507 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 5: Or can be easily discovered by by law technology, law enforcement. 508 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 5: They're gonna be able to They're gonna be able to 509 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: look at computers, monitors and find out exactly if anything happened. 510 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: Trust me, if they haven't already. 511 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: Well, and this is the problem or the guy like 512 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: Micah who doesn't understand how this all works, and when 513 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: you don't have people in the building around you who 514 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: know how it works, because you just hire your friends 515 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: versus people are competent or know what they're doing. You 516 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: he's used to just being able to say anything, and. 517 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: He's an incredible speaker. 518 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: He'll say something, you'll go, hey, I bought his bull 519 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: crap for four years, okay, and I don't trust any 520 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: of these people. 521 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: That's how good the guy is. 522 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: Right, So he's used to being able to say it, 523 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: and he'll say it. 524 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: People go, oh, okay, yeah, they looked into it, versus 525 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: the logical question is what investigation did you do in 526 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: one day? Right, So he's got a major problem with 527 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: that and the and again I come back. 528 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 3: Somebody and for someone like Michael choos's words very carefully 529 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: and sometimes not so carefully, I'll just say it was no. 530 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: Michael went about these allegates like, we're looking into it. 531 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 4: Right. 532 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: We'll keep you guys updated on that investigator. 533 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: He gave definitive statements though, and that and that's that's 534 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: his that's his problem. So we've got about a minute 535 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: left here. I again will just say this and I 536 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: have and then I'll give you guys ten seconds each 537 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 2: to wrap up the show. I have no idea what 538 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: Loabianco actually has of anything, but the fact that he 539 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: named the people's names, the fact that he ran this 540 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: story to begin with, I would be floored if, like 541 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: I said, if you think about it about writing a 542 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: television series that he didn't have the great reveal the 543 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: season finale started. He started with that in his possession 544 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: and is working his way forward. I could be totally wrong. 545 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: He could be making an egregious mistake. I don't know. 546 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: Just knowing a guy like that and how he operates, 547 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: I would be surprised. Jim Marrett ten seconds. 548 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 5: My heart goes out to Representative Haggard and his wife. 549 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 5: She got up on on stage and and uh, it 550 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 5: looked it just we haven't seen it, but it's it's 551 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 5: it's an awful circumstance to put a couple into this situation. 552 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: Abdu. This weekends cheat to be a work of art. 553 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: Trust me and. 554 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: That'll do it. 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