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Speaker 1: Wow, Los Calaveras. This is Crowned Heads. This is their

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Speaker 1: yearly release. They've been doing this for twelve years now.

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Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty five. This is eat drink smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers,

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Speaker 1: my boy, and look at this beauty. This is the

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Speaker 1: green label, different colors, different years, the green label. We

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Speaker 1: are doing this. It's not a toro. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what size they refer to this as. No, they do

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Speaker 1: which means it's six inches long. Tea always makes fingers

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Speaker 1: one boy laugh. And the ring gauge is the fifty

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Speaker 1: four that's the diameter of the cigar, or how thick

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Speaker 1: ring gauge is a full one inch round. This is

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Speaker 1: really the top of the mark of where I like

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Speaker 1: to be with mouthfeelds. So they do one every year,

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Speaker 1: this calavers and this one is using a Mexican San

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Speaker 2: But if you look at this.

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Speaker 1: Cigar, if you're watching the video, if you're looking at

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Speaker 1: it because you're holding it, that is way lighter. That

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Speaker 1: is much more in that Colorado claro. So this is

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Speaker 1: a mid priming of a Mexican San Andreas rapper. So

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Speaker 1: flavor profile because Mexican San Andrea's fingers will known from

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Speaker 1: being a little bit that sweetness, a little with that cocoa,

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Speaker 2: But we just lit this puppy up and fingers, what say.

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Speaker 3: You not getting the chocolate, the coco, the coffee that

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Speaker 3: we just lit this cigar so far, just a slight

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Speaker 3: That that's really about it so far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the peppery note is indeed there. We really did

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a little bit of time.

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Speaker 1: There's as it's a little bit woody.

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Speaker 2: A little bit hay is what I'm getting.

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Speaker 1: But I think more woody than anything else, and that's

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Speaker 1: really enveloping the tongue. I'm gonna wait to see what

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Speaker 1: develops with every cigar that we do. Guys, grab your notebooks.

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Speaker 1: What did you eat today? What did you drink today?

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Speaker 1: All of that goes into your notebook because it affects

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Speaker 1: your palette. The weather spectacular day here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: When we've recorded, right, we record the show perfect weather.

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Speaker 1: Why aren't we doing the show outside fingers on?

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Speaker 3: It's criminal that we aren't doing the show. Well, it's

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Speaker 3: smooth criminal. See what you did there? Go ahead, I

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Speaker 3: see what you did there. I'm not doing smooth Criminal.

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Speaker 3: More of a Prince guy. Oh, Michael Jackson, if you

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Speaker 3: would have said something prince related, I would, but I didn't.

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Speaker 1: By the way, there are only two acceptable Michael Jackson

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Speaker 1: Pyt actually not even smooth Criminal, but I'll allow it.

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Speaker 1: Billy Jean Billy Jean Pyt, Smooth Criminal, and of course

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Speaker 1: one of the best songs ever written, We Are the World,

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Speaker 1: The Lost Calavaris twenty twenty five is what we are smoking.

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Speaker 2: You got your notebook out, what'd you eat, what did

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Speaker 1: The weather, and then break the scar up into thirds, first, third, second, third,

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Speaker 1: final third. Write down the flavors, what is it that

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Speaker 1: go back to that cigar a month from now, six

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Speaker 1: You compare your notes, you see your through line, really

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Speaker 1: to build. It's a little surprising because not only is

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And the other thing too. I will say this,

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Speaker 1: For being a fifty four Yes, for being a fifty

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a legitimate observation here. I think that

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Speaker 3: People. Eighty five percent of what I eat comes from

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Speaker 1: So his argument is that this wrapper allows for that toffee,

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Speaker 1: coffee espresso to rise up because it gets lost under

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Speaker 1: But the funny thing is we've discussed about Mexican San Andreas,

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Speaker 3: I feel like we have been smoking a lot less

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Speaker 1: So when I say bouncing black pepper, I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: Lost calaveras, the odissio on the matata. This is the

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Speaker 3: But it is something you mentioned that the pepper. It's

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Speaker 1: It has Now the question, fingers will OOI is in

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Speaker 1: Of course, we have a long way to go right

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna wait to see. But remember John does

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Speaker 1: the Lipotsia, which in a torpedo to me is one

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Speaker 1: the show. I smoked them while I didn't even share

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Speaker 3: the me, So fingers mooin.

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Speaker 1: I made my purchase of the Charbroil Infrared OILSS Turkey fryar.

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Speaker 3: That's outstanding.

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Speaker 2: I think I bought an air fryer and I didn't

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's what happened, because I have

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Speaker 1: no idea why they call it Infraredit's Eat Drink Smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers well,

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Speaker 1: I find everything at Eat Drink Smoke Show dot com.

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Speaker 1: I feel like being that you just bought this, uh,

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Speaker 1: this sair fry. When is Let's go air fry?

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Speaker 3: Come out?

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Speaker 1: Do you want it's it's right there. It's right through

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Speaker 1: it's read our book and was talking about making brisket

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Speaker 1: They said, well, charboil makes this thing instead of oil

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Speaker 3: It on the spot, and so selling them like you

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Speaker 1: It came from the the one of those online retailers

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Speaker 1: that does the delivery, and so I get it. And

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Speaker 1: round thing and you hook up propane to it.

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Speaker 3: it's not it's not like that. Oh.

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Speaker 1: And you hook up propane to it, right, and you

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Speaker 1: add the legs. It's it's it's fairly easy. Maybe there's

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Speaker 1: this round contraption. And then it's got a metal tub

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Speaker 1: And you take vegetable oil and you rub it all

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, rub the vegetable oil on the tub, smack

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Speaker 3: it up, flip it, rub it down on it, right,

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Speaker 3: and so you're.

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Speaker 1: Seasoning it right fifteen minutes and you put it on

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Speaker 3: So clearly now you are completely on the air Frier train.

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Speaker 1: Now, the air fryer is a scam, the air frar,

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Speaker 3: The air fryer is.

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Speaker 3: Well you just kind of sold me on getting something

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Speaker 1: If you're doing two different kinds of birds, well now

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Speaker 3: So is there any other meat that you can put

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Speaker 2: Really no question.

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Speaker 3: I am going to try a top round in it. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's great. I want to see if I can do

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Speaker 3: I'm a firm believer in using some sort of device

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Speaker 3: So if this is just another option for people to

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Speaker 1: I think I paid one hundred and thirty five one

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm very impressed.

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Speaker 1: Which it did. It's I'm super impressed. So well done, Charbroyle,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I figured I needed a name that's

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Speaker 3: good enough for me. There it is.

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Speaker 1: Eat Drink Smoke. It is your cigar, Bourbon Food, the Extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Malloy.

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Speaker 1: And this right here is the Lost Calavaris twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It's an annual release Mexican San Andreas rapper.

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Speaker 3: It's Nicaraguin in the binder and filler, right. I didn't

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Speaker 2: I have that right.

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Speaker 1: Nicaraguin in the binder and the filler coming in a

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Speaker 1: fifteen dollars and twenty five cents six by fifty four

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Speaker 1: man peppery very close to pepperbomb, way more so than

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Speaker 3: I'm curious, what are you pairing it with right now?

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Speaker 3: That is a twenty twenty five diet coke, okay, because

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Speaker 3: I'm not getting that pepper bomb you're talking about. It's

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Speaker 1: Do you have the hot steamy cup of Joe? Good

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Speaker 3: I was just curious afou way way more pepper than

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Speaker 1: I am not opposed. This isn't my normal flavor profile,

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Speaker 1: but I want to see. I mean, we're still into

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Speaker 1: that's all. And I love tobacco forward. I am all

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Speaker 3: Cents, and you were reading my mind when you said

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Speaker 3: at twelve dollars a stick. Yeah. I am still going

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Speaker 1: Has that happened?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Maybe it is frustrating.

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Speaker 3: It does stink that I feel like we're two old

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Speaker 2: Where was I where.

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Speaker 1: Someone jokingly referred to me as old man? Was it

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I have a cane.

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Speaker 1: Secondly, I'm about to order another cane, a good one

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Speaker 2: I think this whole idea of saying, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: I think it's the biggest bunch of horse crap in

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Speaker 2: I think complaining is just.

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Speaker 1: About oh my gosh, my back, my hips. I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm cool with that.

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Speaker 1: It's a question of did you not know that was

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Speaker 1: Like angry about it if you lost the use of

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Speaker 1: and Fingers is like, shit, hey, hey, Tony Fingers, I'm

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 3: Tony, don't don't tell anybody. I'm telling you this, but

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Speaker 3: And he goes, doone's pills? Was that a movie? Yes?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a movie.

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Speaker 4: Done's pills? It works, wonders Tony, I'm on them right now.

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Speaker 4: You couldn't even tell, could you? And then he went

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Speaker 3: It's like you painted a completely accurate picture of what

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Speaker 2: But what the like do you get?

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Speaker 1: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Do you get angry if like your back hurts?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm used to it by now.

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Speaker 2: Ah, good god, Oh but wow.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize you were so sensite about people pointing

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Speaker 1: But none of it bothers me. I'm tired of them

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Speaker 3: You know what. Okay, I understand what you're saying, and

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Speaker 2: your humid or? At fifteen dollars and twenty five cents

438
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: a stick?

439
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: If I saw for thirteen fifty on sale, it would

440
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: definitely be in my humid or?

441
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: All right, Monty Hall, let's make a deal. Speaking of age,

442
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't smoked enough of it to know.

443
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: It's by the way, you're right, draws great, smoking beautifully.

444
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: Not really my mouth feel at a fifty four ring gauge.

445
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: It's just not my flavor profile. That's my only issue.

446
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 3: It's just a value conversation in my mind, and I'm

447
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: leaning towards yes, it is because this is the world

448
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 3: we live in now, not the world that I want

449
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: to live in.

450
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: You've really and and I can't I can't deny what

451
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: you're saying. And I think that that you've been on

452
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: this now for a couple of months. I was in

453
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: a humidore yesterday and there was an opus twenty nineteen.

454
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: I think it was a it wasn't maybe it was

455
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: a BBMF, I don't know. It was one hundred and

456
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: sixty five dollars, and the attendant was like, yeah, that's

457
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: that's steep. I'm not spending that. And what I said was,

458
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: in the days when a thirty dollars cigar was only

459
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: twenty two dollars, you could see your way clear to

460
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: a splurge like that because it only would have been

461
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty dollars. But when the twenty two

462
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: dollars twenty two dollars cigar is now a thirty dollars

463
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: cigar plus one hundred and sixty five becomes impossible to reach.

464
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: And so to your point you've been bringing up here

465
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: for months, Yeah, it's it is absolutely time to recalibrate

466
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: where our numbers are and what we look at as dollars.

467
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 1: Everyone I know that's anecdotal, of course, is saying, holy cality,

468
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: cigars are expensive. Yeah, Holy cality, cigars are expensive. My

469
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: level of searching for deals, you know, I get a

470
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: ton of emails like you do, like everybody does, about

471
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: what deals are available. I got finally an email today

472
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: where I'm like, yep, I spent an average of five

473
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: dollars and twenty five cents a stick. Oh wow, Oh yeah, Yeah,

474
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all right. I'm gonna be good for

475
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: a while, but it's it doesn't stop me from still

476
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: buying a thirty dollars cigar. I do what I do,

477
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: but these numbers, the average number is now out of

478
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: control and you're forced to rethink it and every way.

479
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: So you're right, you're right if you so. If you've

480
00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: found this for.

481
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Speaker 3: Thirteen t twenty five a stick thirteen to fifty, I

482
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 3: definitely buy fifteen. I'm thinking about it a little bit more,

483
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: but I'm probably going to buy it at fifteen, just

484
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: because that's the world I live in now. But you

485
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 3: like this Slaver profile, You're cool with it. Yeah, I'm

486
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: fine with it. And you know the fact too that

487
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: the construction's great, nice even burn pleasant. Draw has not

488
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: been testy at all. We have been smoking a very

489
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: low maintenance Yeah, yeah, I mean, we.

490
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: Can get into it. I know I'm up against time.

491
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: There were elections that took place this week across the country.

492
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: I know you've got that in News of the week,

493
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to rush you. And it was

494
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: a clean sweep for Democrats across the country. And there's

495
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for this, including you know, in

496
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: an off year election where one party has the White

497
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: House and the Senate and the House of Representatives usually

498
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: goes the other way. That's a pretty standard thing. How

499
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: much do you think the economy played in this election

500
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, Virginia, New York, some other mayor's races

501
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: across the country.

502
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 3: Well, I think, specifically when you get to Virginia, I

503
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: think the government shutdown played a big role in it,

504
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: which I don't know if people are talking about that

505
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: as much, but you know, Virginia being so close to Washington,

506
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: d C. And the suburbs and the game working, yes, exactly,

507
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: I think that had a lot to do with it.

508
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: I think that New York. I don't know what's going

509
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: on with New York.

510
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: That's an evergreen statement.

511
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: It's just a shame because you know, you and I

512
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: have both been there recently, and I just don't want

513
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: to see things go downhill there, and I hope, I

514
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: hope that it doesn't. I hope it will be safe

515
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: and prosper.

516
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Well.

517
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: I think that's for New Yorkers to decide, and they

518
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: made some decisions.

519
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: Sure did. I'm staying in Indiana. That's okay, but that's

520
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: fine by me, Fingers Maloy.

521
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: As you know, I was supposed to be in Vegas

522
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: last week for a conference.

523
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: Didn't make it.

524
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Too many things were happening, and I believe that I'll

525
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: be in Vegas at the end of the year for

526
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: a quick jaunt.

527
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 3: You are a lover of Vegas. I was, what did

528
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: Vegas do to you? What did they do to me?

529
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: They charged me twenty five dollars for a bottle of

530
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: water to drink smoke.

531
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: Come Tony Katz.

532
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: That is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. Vegas is

533
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: having problems, and the only way to fix your problems,

534
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: Las Vegas is to advertise right here on eat, drink, smoke.

535
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: That's your only way out right now.

536
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: Fingers Maloy doing ads for you, talking about how important

537
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: it is to go to Vegas, and he's the guy,

538
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: he's the gambler. And right now there's a story that

539
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: over there at the MGM, they're like, yeah, we screwed

540
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: up with pricing this summer. What did they screw up

541
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: this summer?

542
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: This has been going on for years, and you know,

543
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: there's been talk about the Caesar CEO making some comments

544
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: about how they're basically trying to get the riff raff

545
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: off the strip. And by riff raff, I mean people

546
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: like me. You yes, the people that go there, and

547
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: they aren't whales. They wanted to go and play a

548
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: little bit at the casino, maybe have one hundred and

549
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: fifty two hundred dollars in their budget, play the machines,

550
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: hope to get a steak dinner out of it, hope

551
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: to get a hotel room, maybe go see one of

552
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: the free shows. They want all of that gone. They

553
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: want to and the way to get rid of these people,

554
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: people like me is to nickel and dime them to death.

555
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: So one of the things that he wrote here when

556
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: we think about pricing and things that got everyone's attention,

557
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: whether it's the infamous bottle of water at Starbucks, coffee

558
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: at Excalibur that costs twelve dollars.

559
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Shame on us. Twelve dollars is insane.

560
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: We should have been more sensitive to the overall experience

561
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: at a place like Excalibur. To those customers. You can't

562
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: have a twenty nine dollars room and a twelve dollars coffee.

563
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: We've gone through the organization, we think, we hope, we

564
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: believe we've priced corrected.

565
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm impressed that you're saying the words.

566
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: I stayed at ex Caliber back in two thousand and nine.

567
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: It well so much nicer I was telling two thousand

568
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: they redid on still there. It's true there were twenty

569
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: nine dollars rooms that didn't have the huge resort fee,

570
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: and you felt like you were getting something out of

571
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: it because you're spending a little bit of money on

572
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: the room, and then you know, when it's that cheap.

573
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: A lot of times, if you gambled enough, they would say, oh,

574
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: to make you happy, we're gonna take your room charge off.

575
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: Forget about it. You could have a thirty five dollar room,

576
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: you know, which isn't there anymore, But then the resort

577
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: fee will be fifty five dollars, right, and it's like, okay,

578
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: what are you telling me. You're saying that, oh, well,

579
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: the resort fee includes Wi Fi. Well, I get Wi

580
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: Fi for free at any other hotel. What makes your

581
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: WiFi so special? It's not you get the resort pool,

582
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: which some of the hotels have very nice pools. Obviously,

583
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: people go to Vegas for the one of the things

584
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: of the pool experience, but a lot of these hotels

585
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: don't have the best pool in the world. And yet

586
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: they're still charging you fifty to fifty five dollars. Oh,

587
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: and our world class fitness facilities. And you look and a,

588
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: you know, half the machines are broken and it's not

589
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: being maintained. And you're asking yourself, as a you know,

590
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: someone who's in the middle class, how can they possibly

591
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: justify these fees? And a lot of people are saying

592
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: they can't justify them. I'm done, I'm not going back.

593
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: They had done a big sale where like big deals

594
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: in Vegas, and I thought some of them were okay,

595
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: But when you did the math, you realized that it

596
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: was just all right, you save over here, but you'll

597
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: spend over there.

598
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: Right.

599
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: Just where did you want to where did you want

600
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: to put it?

601
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: But what's what is right?

602
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: So a twenty nine dollars room and a twelve dollars

603
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: cup of coffee.

604
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: That is, that is a solid observation why a coffee

605
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't be twelve dollars.

606
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: You're just screwing me.

607
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: And people don't want to feel that way, but they

608
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: are clear that they're going to pay seven dollars for

609
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, right, meaning where is what is

610
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: the number? That for the psyche of your kind of gambler?

611
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, you show up more with more

612
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: than a couple hundred dollars in your pocket.

613
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: Anyway. But the problem is for people like.

614
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: That, I didn't say you showed up with fifty grams.

615
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: I certainly do not. But for people like me who

616
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: remember the way it used to be, and I'm not

617
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: talking about thirty years ago, ten years ago, it is

618
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: very hard to go to Vegas and see what they

619
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: have done. It's not just the the fees that hotels charge,

620
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: it's they've gotten rid of a lot of the other

621
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: things that you could get, Like, you know, there would

622
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: always be at the diner at a hotel, there would

623
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: be a secret five dollars ninety nine cent or three

624
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: dollars ninety nine cent steak dinner where you get you know, steak, eggs, whatever.

625
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: And of course, is it the best steak in the world.

626
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. What I know, it's shocking, but you thought, wow,

627
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm really getting a deal. I'm getting a steak dinner

628
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: for three ninety nine and oh, by the way, it'll

629
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: fill me up, and you'd be walk away feeling like

630
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: you're getting something. They've taken all of that away, and

631
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: now you're hearing reports that they're being a lot more

632
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: strict about drinks while you're gambling. It used to be

633
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: that it was no problem at all. If you're gambling,

634
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: what do you want to drink? It'll be back in

635
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: you know, three four minutes and you'll have your drink

636
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: there and everybody's happy. But when you're going to bake

637
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: is one of the things. One of the draws for

638
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: people if you're a gambler and you like this lifestyle

639
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: is hey, at least you may be losing your money,

640
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: but you know you're gonna get some free drinks. Now

641
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: they're even starting to clamp down on that stuff. At

642
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: that point, why am I getting on a plane. Why

643
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: am I flying across the country. There are so many

644
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: regional casinos in the area that we was sure, you're

645
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: gonna have to pay for your drinks, but you don't

646
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: have to deal with all the airfare and all the

647
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: other stuff involved in traveling. And the other thing too

648
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 3: is younger people are just doing their gambling on their phones.

649
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they need to be more enticing to people

650
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: who want the experience. Yes, and you have to create experiences.

651
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: And you're saying that they took all the experiences away. Yes,

652
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: you no longer get a ticket to the buffet.

653
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: What buffet? There are no more buffet. Oh, there are some,

654
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: but not what they used to be. And every hotel

655
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: had a buffet. They've eliminated a lot of that. The

656
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: other thing too, and this is only anecdotal. I've seen

657
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: a few YouTube in Vegas influencers talk about it. You know,

658
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: they're they're trying to draw on whales, the big time

659
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: money to come into Vegas and gamble. Well, part of

660
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: the allure for the whales is the vibe of the city,

661
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Speaker 3: the vibe of going into a vibrant casino floor and

662
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: on the action and the electricity. And they're finding that

663
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: they're coming to Vegas and in a lot of areas

664
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Speaker 3: it's like a ghost town compared to what it used

665
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: to be, and so that vibe has been taken away.

666
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 3: So there's gonna be some there's there's there's there's gonna

667
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: be some uh self reflection. Whether they're actually gonna do

668
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: anything about it though, because these are all corporate run

669
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: casinos now, it's not like the old days when the

670
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: when the mob was running it and they knew your

671
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: name and knew what you drank and and all that stuff. Uh.

672
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna be able to easily

673
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: turn back and make it a little bit more affordable

674
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Speaker 3: for uh the middle class traveler.

675
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: But there there's.

676
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: These casinos aren't going under, are they. We're not to

677
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: see a couple, you know, say it's been fun by Now.

678
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: I've got the place there Macao in China and a

679
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: couple other locations, and.

680
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't need this anymore.

681
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 3: I wish I had the name of the casino front

682
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: of me that just went under recently on the strip.

683
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't one of the big boys, it wasn't Caesar's

684
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: property or an MGM property. But it's gonna be interesting

685
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: to see how they compete, because as the strip and

686
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: their properties and gaming go down, the off site properties

687
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: where locals go to the gaming is actually going up

688
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: because the gamblers are looking for value and they know

689
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: at off strip properties they're gonna get much more value

690
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: out of their dollar than they are on the strip.

691
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: It's a shame because you and I have gone on

692
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: the strip and had some wonderful dinners, and you know,

693
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: the dining experience has been excellent.

694
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Speaker 1: If Fingers molloy was going to recommend one fix to

695
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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas hanchos, the oi ploi, what is the

696
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: fingers will I fick?

697
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: Stop charging for parking, bring down the resort fees, and

698
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: stop charging twelve dollars for a cup of coffee.

699
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: So free parking. Yes, the resort fee nonsense needs to stop.

700
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Speaker 1: And coffee seven bucks, I guess. I mean it's no

701
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Speaker 1: different than New York. I guess you heard it here. First,

702
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Speaker 1: what's your plan? Your choice?

703
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Speaker 3: Vegas?

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Speaker 1: Have fingers Mali or have no fingers LOI. Yeah, that's

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734
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Speaker 1: Toast.

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Speaker 3: I do.

736
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't smell it. It's just the bourbon.

737
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: It's eat drinks, smell gum, Tony Kats, and that right

738
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Speaker 1: there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy. This is

739
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: the Basil Hayden Toast now sometimes and we have discussed

740
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: this before. It's been years since we've done Basil Hayden.

741
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Thought it was pronounced Basil Hayden, and then some people

742
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: have cried and said, no, no, no, it's Basil Hayden.

743
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know. I say, just drink it.

744
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: Now that the toast has been around for a while,

745
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: this has been out, I mean, I think we go

746
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty one the toast coming.

747
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: Out, so this is not new.

748
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: And also we couldn't remember whether or not we've reviewed

749
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: it before because we have done some Basil Haydens. Of course,

750
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: we've done the dark Rye, which I think is tremendous

751
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: if you've never had it. The basil Aiden dark Crye

752
00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: is terrific. This comes in at eighty proof. No applause

753
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: figures with LOI doesn't apply for anything that is less

754
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: than one hundred proof. Sixty three percent corn, twenty seven

755
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: percent brown rice, ten percent malted barley, So this is

756
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: proof down to eighty percent. It's aged. According to the

757
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: guys at Breaking Bourbon, they add additional brown rice blended proof.

758
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: Down to eighty.

759
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: So that's how they get this idea of toast and

760
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: and then it's in some other type of toasted barrel.

761
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Is that how they want to describe it? Toasted oak cast.

762
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: Now this is different than a charred oak cast because

763
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: anything to be bourbon has to go into American oak,

764
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: and the oak cast to have tasted fire. How long

765
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: that char is that's really up to the distillers. So

766
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: this is a different concept. And it's a it's a

767
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: very pretty darker honey orange kind of color. They opery

768
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: copper is nice, but not yet into the ambers, not

769
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: that kind of of deep. There's definitely a little viscosi there,

770
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: a little bit sticking to the glass.

771
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 3: It's a lovely nose, dude, Yeah, right right away, brown sugar, if.

772
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: You really get in there, really get in. There's a

773
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: little touch of ethanol. But I'm talking about extended sniffing.

774
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: Which is surprising at eighty proof. I wasn't expecting that,

775
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: but I would agree.

776
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: And brown sugar is right, a little bit buttery. It's

777
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: it's nice. It's a nice good. Oh that feels that

778
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: feels pretty right. It feels pretty on the nostrils. It

779
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: stings the nostrils. Fingers molloy, are you ready for this?

780
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: You better believe I've been ready for this all day, Tony.

781
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: That is fingers moy right there, and he is doing

782
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: what is known as the Kentucky chew, moving the juice

783
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: around the palate, getting a field for the flavors. I'm

784
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: a believer in the two SIPs method. The first step

785
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: to set the buds, the second sip to really get

786
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: an idea of the flavors.

787
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: But to each their own.

788
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: Taking a sip of the basil Hayden toast, which undergoes

789
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: a secondary toasted barrel finish.

790
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: For an undisclosed amount of time.

791
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: By the way, so do I there it is. There's

792
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: a bit of nuttiness that brown sugar to me, is

793
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: still there. There's some oak, maybe some cinnamon on the finish.

794
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: It all is very lovely, very nice. It is very

795
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: fall to me, very enjoyable. There's no maybe a hint

796
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: of a sting on the tongue, a little bit of

797
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: gentle warmth in the chest, and a nice, really bit

798
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: of oak on the finish.

799
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going in. I'm going in for the basil.

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Speaker 1: Hayden Basil Haydenbourbon dot com is where you go here.

801
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Speaker 1: It is here, It is here, it is here. I'm

802
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: going in here.

803
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Speaker 3: He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he is doing

804
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: what we like to call the saganaw swish, the Memphis munch,

805
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 3: the Chattanooga chomp, the Kentucky chew, and he's still chewing.

806
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm going in again.

807
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: He's going in once again, ladies and gentlemen, and he's

808
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: doing what we like to call the saganaw swish, the

809
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: Memphis munch, the Indianapolis and vibe nice.

810
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: That's just simple, man.

811
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Speaker 1: That's just a very very slight sting on the tongue

812
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: of very very slight heat. Uh center center chest is

813
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 1: is is what I would say flavor wise, I don't

814
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm getting, Okay, I'm not so sure. I

815
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: have a a strong, strong flavor of that. I think

816
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: you could argue there's a little bit of char that

817
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: you get, a little bit of that toasted that you feel.

818
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: But maybe you're more incepting yourself there. You kind of

819
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: you kind of want that. There is in the finish

820
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of heat build up, and that build

821
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: ups happening in the throat, which is a really weird

822
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: place for for it to for it to happen, you said, nutty,

823
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: And I think that there's something to that. There is

824
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: a there's a breadiness. There's a have you ever chewed

825
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: on whitebread or chewed on sourdough and just let that

826
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: flavor kind of linger? That's breadiness. That's the best way

827
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: I can describe it. It's a simple, simple, simple bourbon

828
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: is what it is. Uh. And there's nothing here that's

829
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: overwhelming me. But there's nothing here that would insult anybody.

830
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: If this was in your glass, you'd be like, okay, cool,

831
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: and you'd you'd sip it around the campfire, you'd sip

832
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: it for the holidays. Yeah, super easy, super easy bourbon.

833
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: Right here, I am really worried about monkeying with it,

834
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: putting it on a cube. Yeah, you're gonna do it,

835
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: So what does the matter? Of course I am because

836
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: you're that kind of American. Well that's what we do

837
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: for eat, drink, smoke nation. But no, it's it's very pleasant.

838
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: And I.

839
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Speaker 3: I'm wondering what that will do because you you know,

840
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: you think, okay, you said that you're having. You know,

841
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: there's that brightiness you're talking about. There's a little bit

842
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: of a char a little bit. So I mean no

843
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: real alcohol, no.

844
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: Real alcohol, no real fruit.

845
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Speaker 3: You know.

846
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Speaker 1: If you want to argue that that's a caramel sweetness,

847
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: maybe on the finish you can, but I'm.

848
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: Not for me on the palette.

849
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm not getting cinnamon on the on the finish as well,

850
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: that to me is not cinnamon. Okay, that's not.

851
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: That's not no, no, because cinnamon I.

852
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: Think people would uh would fireball big red that kind

853
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: of cinnamon.

854
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no.

855
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if you're talking about like a cinnamon swirl

856
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: and like a cake like that kind of cinnamon swirl. Yeah, maybe,

857
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's it's faint, if anything.

858
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: But one thing for me is for sure. For a

859
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: lot of these notes that we're talking about, you're you're

860
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: searching for it. There's nothing that really punches you in

861
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: the face. Yes, oh man, I'm hit with this and that,

862
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: and that may disappoint some people excite others. Yeah, exactly.

863
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: I think that what you're what you're left with is

864
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: like no good good, yes, good figures. Well, what did

865
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: you pay for this bottle? Do you remember what you

866
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: paid for this bottle?

867
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: Fifty bucks?

868
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: That's fifty dollars.

869
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the New America, it's the new Math. It's

870
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: the new Math.

871
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: Uh, that's hard.

872
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: Would you have liked it better at thirty five dollars?

873
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: I would have liked it better at thirty five dollars?

874
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: But what about today's new math? The new Math sucks.

875
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: The new Math sucks, and I'm not gonna lie. I

876
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: think it might be racist, like the new Math is

877
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: is terrible. I did this bottle used to be thirty

878
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: five dollars?

879
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've seen it, you know, different reviews

880
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: where it said, you know, three four years ago was

881
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 3: fifty bucks. So fifty bucks, ma'a.

882
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: Huh, we're gon have to discuss this. Fingers melloy Some

883
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: things are just wrong some things. Some things are very

884
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: wrong a lot of things. Some things should require us

885
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: to rethink society as a whole, Like me dropping my

886
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: cigar in the ashtray. You literally dropped your cigar in

887
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: the ashtray. Oh party foul. It's eat, drink smoke. I'm

888
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drink or fingers.

889
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: But boy, don't worry, it's not gonna stop him from

890
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: smoking the cigar.

891
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: I've known the man.

892
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: Way too long.

893
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: You came across a disgusting story over there at USA today.

894
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: Wipe your hands on your pants.

895
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: Do you need to go wash your hand?

896
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 2: Go wash your hands?

897
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: Do you have a wet nap? Do I have a

898
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: wet nap? What is this?

899
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: A red lobster?

900
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: And in many radio studios that have wet naps right

901
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: on hand, do they have wet naps.

902
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: Or red lobster?

903
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: Yes they do. I've only been once. You've only had

904
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: a wet nap once? No red lobster. Oh okay, try

905
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 3: the Cheddarbay biscuits. I did, I did. They were lovely

906
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: worth the price of admission. I love where this segment's going.

907
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: OREO has unveiled a Thanksgiving inspired cookie, and I hate them. Actually,

908
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: there are six Thanksgiving inspired flavors. They're covered in fudge,

909
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: infused with one of six Thanksgiving inspired flavors. Now I'm

910
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: going to read you the flavors. You tell me whether

911
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: the people who thought of this, uh, you tell me

912
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: what type of torture device we should put them in? Oh,

913
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, okay, Turkey and gravy, Turkey and gravy oreo,

914
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: just like the Pilgrims like them.

915
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: You're not doing this right. Oh, I'm sorry. Here's the

916
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 3: problem with this premise of this bit that you're throwing

917
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: out there.

918
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

919
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 3: I would probably eat all of these.

920
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: The only one, well, I shouldn't say the only one,

921
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: sweet potato, Sweet potato Oreo sounds lovely, all right, covered

922
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: in fudge cream corn.

923
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 3: Who hasn't had cream corn covered in fudge?

924
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: Admittedly, I would try that one first.

925
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: I see now, all of a sudden, it doesn't sound

926
00:48:59,480 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: so bad.

927
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Then it's apple caramel pie, pumpkin pie, and cranberry sauce.

928
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: Cranberry sauce fudge covered oreo. Hey, kids, want to spend

929
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving in the bathroom, try a fudge covered cranberry oreo.

930
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: It's delicious and you'll get a chance to sit down for.

931
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 3: A while areos and it'll prevent UTIs wow.

932
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: So hey, are you getting enough medical advice? We hear it, eat, drink,

933
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: smoke are here to help. So we need to get

934
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: our hands on this right.

935
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: Oh, clearly obviously.

936
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: But turkey gravy that's gross, and sweet potato I don't

937
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: think is great. The cream corn because corn is sweet,

938
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: I think might be really interesting. Apple caramel pie with fudge,

939
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: and pumpkin pie with fudge, fine cranberry sauce plates and

940
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: help for those people.

941
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, So how does cream corn oreos? And

942
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 3: the ingredients that would mock what would make whatever cream

943
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: corn flavoring that would go into the oreo because it wouldn't,

944
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 3: of course be cream corn.

945
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: What they're gonna use artificial cream corn flavoring?

946
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: Yes?

947
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: Is there no justice? How will that meld with high

948
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: fruit corn syrup?

949
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: Turns out high fructose corn syrup will take the properties

950
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: or whatever it is injected into, so it's totally fine

951
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: and no problem.

952
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: But we're trying too hard right.

953
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: This has sold exclusively on oreo dot com and it

954
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: comes in a collector tip.

955
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god, you did you did not look

956
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: at this? Did you what? You did not go to

957
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: dot com and look at this?

958
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: Did you no?

959
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: Did you know? It comes in a tin? It looks

960
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: like an oreo. It is a tin, and the tin

961
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: has twelve of these dipped Thanksgiving cookies in them. It's

962
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: forty four dollars and ninety nine cents.

963
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: I'll take six. It's forty four dollars and ninety nine cents.

964
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: Of course it is. It's forty four dollars and ninety

965
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: nine cents. Tony. It comes into collector tin.

966
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: The only thing that's collecting is my money.

967
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: Are you surprised? Do you think this is gonna go

968
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: for four dollars or ninety five cents?

969
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: So there are six flavors. You get two of each flavor.

970
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: Is that how it works? Or do you choose your flavor? Oh,

971
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: there's no choosing the flavor. There's no choosing the flavor.

972
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: You get the tin that they send you and you

973
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: like it. Are you telling me, for the sake of eat, Drink,

974
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: Smoke Nation, I have to spend forty four dollars ninety

975
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: nine cents.

976
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: You don't have to buy it? I do, don't, I

977
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: should do, dang it. But here's the deal. You know,

978
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: this reminds me of what is it? I think it's

979
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: Jon's soda? You know that? That that Jones's soda that

980
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 3: comes in I believe glass bottles and they have the

981
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: weird soda flavors and on thanks Sharping they have the

982
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: turkey and gravy soda. I think what we should do, Tony,

983
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: because Thanksgiving is right around the corner. I think what

984
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: we need to do is get these oreos and have

985
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: a turkey and gravy James Jones soda chaser.

986
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: I hate you.

987
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: What's wrong with that?

988
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: Everything is the diabetes is wrong with that? That is awful.

989
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they have my address. Oh it's just

990
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: a service they use them using. Oh that was really weird.

991
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: Oh now they want to charge me thirteen dollars for

992
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: shipping and it's fifty percent off.

993
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, now a deal. Now I'm spending

994
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: fifty nine dollars and fifty seven cents. Sure, cranberry sauce

995
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 3: Oreo cookie dipped in fudge one hundred percent. I can't

996
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: believe I just ordered this, Judge, did you really?

997
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: This is what it takes to do a show?

998
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: Now, is this what it takes to get your attention?

999
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: Do we have to buy your love with whatever the

1000
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: hell f for Cocta oreos they've got out there. Wait

1001
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: a minute, you actually ordered it? Yeah, I can't believe

1002
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: you ordered it. You're the worst, even being I don't

1003
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: know where you're gonna get the Jones soda though we're

1004
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: doing it for the bit. Do people do this in

1005
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: real life? It's like, oh, yeah, check out these oreos.

1006
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: They're special.

1007
00:53:54,560 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: Wink, You've just been pranked. You know that happens, right.

1008
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: It's like going there's a local steak house here that

1009
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 3: they do the shrimp cocktail, and nobody tells them about

1010
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 3: all the horse radish and the shrimp cocktail. They're like, oh,

1011
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: you gotta try it. It's wonderful.

1012
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: That is the world's famous Saint Elmo's Steakhouse in downtown Indianapolis,

1013
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: and then their sister locations not only Harry and is He's,

1014
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: but nineteen thirty three and Houston Culinary, which is in

1015
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: a place called Fisher's Indiana, and San almos Is Institution,

1016
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: And you go for the experience, not as much as steak,

1017
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: but they have this shrimp cocktail where the cocktail sauce

1018
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: and the shrimp or underneath the cocktail sauce you got

1019
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: to fish in.

1020
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: It's brutal.

1021
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: It will open up your sinuses and any other orifice.

1022
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: It's it, and people don't tell people, Oh yeah, I

1023
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: just try it, you like it, and they don't get more.

1024
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: Is that, by the way, is cruel and should be

1025
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: punishable by a jail time if you don't tell people.

1026
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 3: One person brutal is another person's magnificent. Yes, how many

1027
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: people do you hate? Oh, I'm not talking about the prank.

1028
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: I'm talking about I could eat five shrimp cocktails from

1029
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 3: there right now.

1030
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: Really, Oh, that's a shell that's happening. Eat drink. Smoking

1031
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: is your cigar bourbon footy extravaganza.

1032
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz.

1033
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: That's fingers, my boy.

1034
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: Smoking from crowned Head the Las Calavaris to twenty twenty

1035
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: five six by fifty four with that Mexican San Andreas

1036
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: wrapper from the middle priming, so it looks much lighter

1037
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: than you would think from a Mexican San Andreas. Right there,

1038
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm in the second third man. The coffee did not

1039
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: materialize for me yet. It is still high wood high pepper.

1040
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: I haven't.

1041
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: I haven't developed a creaminess from it. It's it's smoking beautifully.

1042
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: Not my flavor profile, we'll compared to all the other

1043
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: things that I like from ground heads fifteen dollars and

1044
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: twenty five cents. I could see this being somebody's cigar,

1045
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: like this is what I want, right this is for

1046
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: someone specific. I am not sorry, John, I am not

1047
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: that specific person on this stick. I would have it

1048
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: in my humidor. I do like the pepper.

1049
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: It isn't staying on the palette like it was, you know,

1050
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 3: it's it's certainly not in the back of the throat

1051
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 3: like it was, but it's still there. I'm not getting

1052
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 3: any coffee there. But it's getting to the point, Tony,

1053
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: where I feel like, and I don't want to make

1054
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: it sound like I'm trashing some of the cigars we've

1055
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: reviewed recently, because that's not the case. But I have

1056
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: noticed in the last two months or so, and this

1057
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: could be for varying reasons, the quality of the smoking

1058
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 3: experience hasn't been like what I would like. You know,

1059
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: a lot of high maintenance cigars having to touch it

1060
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: up one hundred times. This right here has been low maintenance.

1061
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: I like a little bit of pepper and spice sometimes

1062
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 3: depends on my mood, Tony, I get it. So for me,

1063
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: fifteen dollars in the new world that we're living in, Yeah,

1064
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: would I like it to be twelve? Yes, fifteen I would.

1065
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I would have one of these,

1066
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: my human right and we are drinking the basil Hayden.

1067
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: This is the basil Hayden toast coming in at eighty proof.

1068
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna move on. Those are rocks right there. Where's

1069
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: your wine, mom glass from last week?

1070
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't have that.

1071
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: I've got I've got some fancy crystal right here.

1072
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 3: Look at you and enjoys the finer things in life, sophisticado.

1073
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: And it goes right there.

1074
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: So water brings down proof and this is already eighty proof,

1075
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: which is the basis, the basic, the bottom of what bourbon,

1076
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: actual bourbon can be. It can open bourbon up right,

1077
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: and some flavors more pronounced, some more muted.

1078
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: That's what it does.

1079
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: You want to try your burning a couple of different ways.

1080
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: Fingers will Away added a little bit of water to his.

1081
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: You want to try it these ways to see which

1082
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: one is the right way for you.

1083
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: You might not like it, neat you like it. On

1084
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: the rocks, you might not like it rocks, you might

1085
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: like it neat, you might like with a little bit

1086
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: of water. There are no rules.

1087
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: What do you like?

1088
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: Go do that right away? I mean, here I go.

1089
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: He's going in, ladies and gentlemen. He's got it on

1090
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: the big rockety rock way. Yeah.

1091
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: No, I knew it. I knew it.

1092
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: Dang it. Okay, why not? What happened?

1093
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1094
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 3: That's never good?

1095
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: Uh not a great heat that I like a little

1096
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: a little bitter.

1097
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: It took away some of that kind of overarching sweetness

1098
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: that was that was there from it.

1099
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: It enhanced that cinnamon in the in the in the palette.

1100
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: I don't like that.

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00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: Uh it.

1102
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: It gave off. It gave an off. No to butterscotch.

1103
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, that's and so I don't mind butterscotch.

1104
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm down with it. But this was kind of a

1105
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: harsh hit.

1106
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1107
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: No, Neat, I get it. Neat, I get it. Fingers

1108
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: will always going in. He had a little bit of

1109
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: water to his basil. Hayden toast fifty dollars though, is

1110
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: not I don't know about that price point for me,

1111
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: but neat it was like, okay, this is fine, fine presentation,

1112
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: not overwhelming, but like works the table for sure. Ye Oh,

1113
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: and it's still hot. It's hot on the tongue and

1114
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: it's hot in the throat and in the upper chest.

1115
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: That's not a happy place to be.

1116
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with anything he just said. Did the

1117
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: same thing for me, did it really? Yeah?

1118
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: Well, I was only I had a cream corn oreo

1119
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: to wash it down there.

1120
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: It is.

1121
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: I will say this. I gotta something. Oh, I do

1122
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: have something. I have some wafers for Duncan. Yeah.

1123
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: Wait first for Duncan. I actually I have sugar free

1124
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: chocolate wafers.

1125
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: I suck so bad.

1126
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: Cheese a ribbon candy to go along with it, or

1127
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: some where there's originals sugar free wafers.

1128
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: Good lord h So this is from rip Van. It's

1129
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: five neck carbs, one hundred and twenty calories. It's a

1130
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: it's a dark chocolate. Let's see let fingers will I

1131
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: eat it first and see what happens?

1132
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: And he goes in, Oh, it's like, I I do

1133
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: see where this would make good insulation for my basement

1134
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: walk right, Oh, Tony, there's no joy in Mudville. Two

1135
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: grams of sugar where and the wrapper?

1136
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: I better than did you?

1137
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: Did you try those before you bought them?

1138
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: How? How? I think there was just like some display

1139
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: at Costco. No, I mean that package right there. Have

1140
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: you previously purchased them and said to yourself? Mmmmm, these

1141
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: are tasty. I need some for the studio.

1142
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: They get me through through what the drudgery? Oh god?

1143
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: He took another sip of the bourbon. Oh boy, Oh no,

1144
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: that's doesn't work with water. It doesn't work on the cube. No,

1145
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: that's no good.

1146
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah it stinks. Yeah, that stinks to I haven't you

1147
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: know it doesn't stink?

1148
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: What's that?

1149
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: That's Defiance Beef Defiance beeef dot com, where you should

1150
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: order a complete cow or a half a cow or

1151
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: a quarter cow twenty one day aged beef. I've made

1152
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Speaker 1: the ribbis, the strips, we have made Burger's Galore absolutely fantastic.

1153
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Speaker 1: You place your order at definespeef dot com. Use promo

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1156
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: they'll call you be like, Okay, what do you want?

1157
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: You can decide the thickness. You can decide all the

1158
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: different cuts that you want. Then everything is frozen and

1159
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: ship directly to you. Boom, you put it right in

1160
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: the freezer and you are good to go. Defiancebeef dot

1161
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: Com from the farms of Indiana directly to your door.

1162
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: Go to Defiancebeef dot com.

1163
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: Use promo code Eat Drink Smoke, and you will get

1164
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars off your order today right now.

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01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:46,440
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1166
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: the team, so spectacular, so so so good. Definespeef dot com.

1167
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Speaker 1: Promo code Eat Drink Smoke. But it timefingers well away

1168
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Speaker 1: for news of the week.

1169
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: This is just in Tony. Everything stinks. Let's go to

1170
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: a listener question instead, shall we for news of the week.

1171
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: We got one from Brian and Brian asks. I'm looking

1172
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: for some advice. I'm putting together a bourbon basket for

1173
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: our schools Silent Auction and was looking for some recommendations

1174
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 3: on what to put in it. Thanks for your attention

1175
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: to this matter. That's Brian.

1176
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: First of all, I love to thank you for your

1177
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: attention this matter.

1178
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: What kind of school that information has been withheld. Is

1179
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: this like an elementary school and they do bourbon baskets?

1180
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: I have no idea. Maybe it's a school of hard knocks.

1181
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: I actually have a way of answering this.

1182
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

1183
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: The biggest problem with doing these things is who are

1184
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: you trying to reach? Are you reaching somebody who just

1185
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: thinks it's cool to have a couple bottles of bourbon?

1186
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: Which case? You can do some quote unquote standards. You

1187
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: could do a Basil Hayden, You could do a maker's mark.

1188
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: You can do a Beam or Jack Daniels. You could

1189
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: do Old Granddad one that should be in your liquor

1190
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: cabinet no matter what. By the way, still all these

1191
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: years later for us, Old Grandad one fourteen continues to

1192
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: be a real benchmark.

1193
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 2: But are you then or is it or is it

1194
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: that you.

1195
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: Are looking for the high end person? And then you

1196
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: want you know, everything from the BTAC, the Buffalo Trace collection,

1197
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: and you want Sazarax and you want Pappies and you

1198
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: write there are two schools of thought here that you want?

1199
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: Or is this is this basket coming from? Well, these

1200
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: are four bottles I've had in my liquor cabinet for

1201
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: nine years. I'm never gonna drink them Boom instant gift.

1202
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: That's the question. Where where are you aiming? By the way,

1203
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: you will never go wrong with putting Maker's Mark and

1204
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: Jack into into a into a thing, putting Basil Hayden

1205
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: Darkrye into it.

1206
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: Or basic bubblo of tracing there.

1207
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: Or if you want to splurge anything for Penelope.

1208
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh sure, another great set. It really depends on what

1209
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: you're trying reach.

1210
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: Fingers Maloy, I would have to believe that you are

1211
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: somebody who is okay with the idea. Not that you

1212
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: do this yourself, but you're okay with the idea of

1213
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: going out to dinner on Thanksgiving.

1214
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not really have no interest? No, sorry, I

1215
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 3: am I shocking you. Are you learning something about me

1216
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 3: that you didn't previously.

1217
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: Know put Are you okay with other people doing it?

1218
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely knock yourself out.

1219
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: Tea Drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's Fingers Meloy. I

1220
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: find it all at Eat Drink Smoke show dot com.

1221
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,479
Speaker 1: People do go out for Thanksgiving and me, I would

1222
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: say it's the older I get, but really it's just

1223
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: the less I seem to care about what other people

1224
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: are doing with their lives the more. Absolutely, Okay, I

1225
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: am with it. And there are places that do incredible,

1226
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: incredible types of meals and types of celebrations for Thanksgiving.

1227
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: I think it makes perfect sense. I do find it

1228
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: interesting that when stores were opening for Thanksgiving, remember they're

1229
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: going to have the sales starting like three pm whatever

1230
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: it is, people got all, you know, out, bent out

1231
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: of shape and up in arms. And this is terrible.

1232
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: And look how you're treating the employees. No one ever

1233
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: said of the restaurant employee. I can't believe they're making

1234
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: you work on Thanksgiving. A lot of restaurant employees were

1235
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: thrilled because they knew it would be crazy good money.

1236
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's the same thing with Mother's Day and Father's Day. Right,

1237
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: they make a lot of the kids call it bank

1238
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 3: because they call it.

1239
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they called it scratch.

1240
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 3: They do coin, that's what they call it. So no,

1241
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: but here's here's my feeling on the Thanksgiving dinner at

1242
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: a restaurant. I would do it, if you know, if

1243
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 3: you know, my kids can't be with me on Thanksgiving

1244
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: and I can't be around family, and it's just me

1245
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 3: and and missus molloy you want that big Thanksgiving dinner,

1246
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 3: but are you really going to make it for two people?

1247
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 3: Not you?

1248
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: No, not me?

1249
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to make a twelve pound bird

1250
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: for two p people. And with the sides, who do you.

1251
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: Have coming this year?

1252
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: So you got the family, you got the kids, you

1253
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: got mister Malloy fingers Moy Senior.

1254
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: We're traveling this year. We're going up to Michigan, so

1255
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: it'll be with missus Malloy's family.

1256
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: So you'll be there's a good like nine to eleven people. Yeah, nine, yeah,

1257
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: so that's a nice number.

1258
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: I think it's a manageable number.

1259
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: That's a number that I don't want to go to

1260
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 3: a restaurant with. Yeah, because that's the other thing too,

1261
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 3: depending on the restaurant, you know what the seating arrangements

1262
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: are going to be like, you know, you to have

1263
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: a conversation with people, it's just so much better if

1264
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 3: you can to have it at home.

1265
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: Right, We've got fourteen so far? Really yeah, and that

1266
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: is because some people are like, wait, we can't make

1267
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: it now.

1268
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: So it was it was eighteen, So what will be

1269
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 3: on the menu. I'm so glad you asked. Thank you

1270
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 3: very much.

1271
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've got the charbroil oil is a

1272
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: turkey friar, which is a convection of it. It's an

1273
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: air fire, and so there will be a sixteen pound

1274
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: turkey that goes in there, and then I will have

1275
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: a sixteen pound brisket that will be smoked. But I

1276
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: also have a six pound brisket that will be smoked

1277
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: while I'm smoking the other one that I can then

1278
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 1: pull off earlier and let rest. And while the brisket

1279
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: is resting, I can take the six pound one and

1280
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: turn that into burnt ends, and I can have that

1281
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 1: for when people arrive before the full brisket is done resting,

1282
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: and then can be sliced very nice.

1283
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: So will the burnt ends be smothered in some sort

1284
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: of Tony Kat's homemade barbecue sauce.

1285
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: I do not have as of yet, a homemade barbecue sauce.

1286
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons is there are so many

1287
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: good jarred sauces. They're just doing such good work in

1288
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: so many places where I'm like, why am I? I

1289
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: can't win every battle, so I'm not going to. But

1290
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: the sauces are very very easy. I just think that

1291
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: for a I'm gonna get yelled at. It's fine.

1292
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: You gotta be butter based, right.

1293
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: A sauce is really to have the stick to itiveness,

1294
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: has got to be a butter based sauce. And because

1295
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: some of the people who show up don't mix the

1296
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: milk and the meat, I have to be a little

1297
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: specific about those things.

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Speaker 3: Right. So we're not gonna mention the brand name of sauce, no.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't know what that's. I don't have no

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Speaker 1: idea what's gonna be at Oh, no idea what it's

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Speaker 1: going to be yet. Because I could go with a

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Speaker 1: basic barbecue sauce. I could go with a teriaki glaze.

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Speaker 3: I can make that work. Oh look at you. You

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01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: just got angry. You just got I like teriaki on chicken.

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01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm not as a big of a terariaki guy on

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 3: beef really, but that's just me. But it doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: because I'm not going to be here, right. You didn't

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Speaker 3: get invited, that's right, So you're gonna make it at home? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Uh. There is a a story from Newsweek how meal

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Speaker 1: costs compare across US supermarkets.

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Speaker 2: What is it that we're looking at.

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Speaker 1: If you take a look at turkey prices they're at

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Speaker 1: forty percent. So there were ninety four cents a pound

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. It's a buck thirty two in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Now Walmart leads this thing off. They

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Speaker 1: say that they have got a meal for ten, the

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Speaker 1: thirteen and a half pound by the ball turkey.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I think we have the stovetop turkey stopping. The cranberry

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Speaker 1: is the dinner rolls, the pure pumpkin so you can

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Speaker 1: make your own pie. And they say three to ninety

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: nine a person costs forty bucks. You think you can

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Speaker 1: serve ten people with that?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Really, and they'll leave hungry. Wow, that's that's my take.

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Speaker 1: Ald has a Thanksgiving feast. They do the same forty dollars,

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Speaker 1: ten people, twenty one items choose from a fourteen pound turkey,

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce, pumpkin pie and everything is marked

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01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: so you can do that one. The Kroger Fresh Giving

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Speaker 1: Dinner package forty nine ninety nine is another ten dollars,

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01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 1: and they say it's a fourteen to sixteen pound turkey,

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Speaker 1: a five bound bag of potatoes, the Ocean Spray cranberries.

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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 1: That's right brand name cranberries, turkey, stuffing mix, and bakery

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01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: fresh pumpkin pie. Now this is not that much bigger

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Speaker 1: of a turkey, but it's they give you. They give

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01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: you the potatoes, so you're making a fresher and grain it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta supply your own butter and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I have to pose this question to you

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: because if you go back to Walmart and Aldi, let's

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Speaker 3: just do Walmart for a second. Here, you got stove

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01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 3: top stuffing, you got the cranberries, and you got dinner rolls, okay,

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01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 3: and then you got the innerds for a pumpkin pie. Right,

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01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: so let's just remove the dessert out of it. Stuffing,

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01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 3: cranberries and rolls. Yeah, there's a minimum of what six

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 3: seven sides for Thanksgiving? How many sides are you gonna have?

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 3: Forty three exactly? So I think that's where this falls short.

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01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: You can get away with a smaller bird if you

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01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 3: have seven eight sides for people to choose from. I

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01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 3: you know, we're not even talking green bean cast role here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no one should.

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01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: You realize in the Midwest what you just said? Those

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01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 1: are I know what I said. My last name is

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: spelled Katz. Come at me bro, but okay, stuffing Cranberry's.

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01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: There's there's so many more sides that you're gonna normally

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01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: get green bean castrow. I'm not coming to your place.

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. If you want that,

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01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: you want that. I've never seen someone so angry.

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm not angry you.

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 3: You nearly came to blows with eat ring spies.

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01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: And said I wasn't gonna, you know, retract my words

1361
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: about green being cast role as you tried to make

1362
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: me do and tried to shame me for having a

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01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: point of view.

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Speaker 3: Listen, if you want to go ahead and say you

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 3: hate the Midwest, just go ahead and say it. I

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Speaker 3: for one will not stand by and listen to this talk,

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 3: to this.

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: Kind of rank amateurism and word manipulation that people have

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01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: grown tiresome. That's why you should vote Cats. Costco has

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Speaker 1: a whole different meal altogether. I would love to see

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Speaker 1: if it works, because I can't imagine that forty or fifty.

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Speaker 2: Bucks is enough.

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01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 3: No but the Costco. But it's an effort, like you

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01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: can create something with that for sure. Yes, especially in

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: this day and age, if you're on a tight budget.

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01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 3: Does the Costco deal include the onion gun. No way.

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Speaker 1: Yes, after you buy it, just go and you fill

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: up lots of little one out to play cups.

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Speaker 3: That's what you do.

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Speaker 1: We're drinking the Basil hayten toast fifty dollar a bottle.

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01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 1: It's an eighty proof, so neat. It was a nice presentation,

1382
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: simple easy. Really really didn't like it on the cube

1383
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: fingers did not like it with a little bit of water.

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01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 3: It just it.

1385
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: It didn't present right.

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01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: And as for the lost Calavaris from Crowned Heads, this

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01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: is the six by fifty four with that Mexican sign

1388
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: Andreas Colorado Rappers how they call it. The spice is

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01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: a little mellowed out as I enter the final third.

1390
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: Here fifteen dollars and twenty five cents a stick, well constructed, fingers,

1391
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: well put together. It's in his humidor not in mind,

1392
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: just the flavor profile.

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: I love Crowned Heads. I like what those guys do.

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