WEBVTT - Sleepaway Camp 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.240 The Frames per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.840 Welcome to another episode of the Frame for a Second podcast. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:14.760 I'm your host for the evening. My name is Mike. 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.560 Next to me, I have Spike. Across from Spike, I 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:22.200 have Ken, and next to Ken, I have Rod. And 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.200 today we are covering a special one. We are covering 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.600 nineteen eighty three's sleep Away Camp. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:29.240 Uh. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:30.960 This is an. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.479 Anniversary film, which is why we're doing it because it 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.120 would seem totally random otherwise. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:38.440 It is an anniversary film. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:43.680 Yeah, it's the fortieth or thirtieth, probably fortieth three. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:45.320 No, we didn't. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.320 Why are we doing this thing just because that movie's. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.520 Coming out that we were going to review the camp camps. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.560 Aim in my asked like, Yo, should we see sleep 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.600 Away Camp? And he was just like maybe probably, Oh. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.440 Oh, but that's not why we we didn't. You're right 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.039 that now. I do remember saying that we should do it. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.920 That's why. That's why I asked, was the right year 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.360 in the chat? It was like eighty three, Yeah, that's. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.199 Right, because yeah, this is in preparation for teenage Sex 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:20.000 and Death at Camp Miasma because it has sleep Away 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.080 Camp references. Just from what I've seen, I feel like 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:23.959 they're going to reference this. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:24.400 Movie a lot. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.679 But god, that seems like a really dumb reason to 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.480 review this. But okay, I guess I'm dumb. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:32.640 We do that though it's part of it too. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:33.360 It seems weird. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:35.080 It's part of the movie. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.920 We talked about reviewing it last year as well, So 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:47.120 it's a couple of reasons why we're reviewing its anniversary. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.240 And is that what it was crazy about it? 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.880 That sounds for me that yeah, that sounds that's what 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:54.280 it was. 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:55.520 That's what it was. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.080 Okay, Well, either way, we're reviewing it, y'all. We are 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:58.960 talking about it today. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:00.000 So I'm going around the room. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.200 I assume nobody here has seen this movie before, so 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:05.880 this will be interesting. I'm gonna say the best for 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.200 last Rod. What did you think about this movie? I'm 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.440 sorry my bad. I was kind of rude, but. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:17.880 Right because you're not the best. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.360 I was trying to give it a chance. Man, I 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:26.079 just it's too many elements that it was just too 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.760 many elements. It's just like, I don't know, I just 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.200 acting was bad. And I know acting was kind of 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.360 bad back in the early eighties some time. But we 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.320 did have some good acting in the eighties, and I'm 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:43.240 just like, I can't give it that excuse. Overall, story 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.000 just just wasn't that great. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.240 It's just just too many things that I just didn't 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.040 enjoy about it. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.440 From a what do you call it? 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:59.000 Campy horror element, Sure it has all of that, but 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.040 I'm not a big fan of that personally. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.120 So that's why for me it wasn't that much. It 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.800 wasn't that of an enjoyable watch. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.280 For me, ken it wasn't a bad watch. 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:17.280 I was able to kind of contextualize the movie for 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:22.120 the year that it was in. It's a slasher film, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.640 so you know what you're gonna get with that, and 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.720 really just trying to say a in eighty three eighty 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.880 four whenever I watched it, like, how would I know 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.080 responded or reacted to this movie, especially when I was youngest, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.800 So I definitely feel like it's one of those you 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.080 had to be there. It's one of the movies to 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:44.080 really appreciate, like what was going on here? So adjusting 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:51.280 my viewing experience to the time, I understand, well, I 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.720 do get the cult following it has now, but I 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.960 don't think it was that bad. You know, I don't 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.200 think it was great. But I think for the time, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:06.400 I think it was a perfectly okay movie, you know so, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.480 and I think it would have worked and just been 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.920 like one of those where that's like right in the. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.520 Middle or a little bit below the middle. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:18.919 Okay, where did you think about sleep Away Camp? 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.760 It was like it was like a low budget like 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:30.080 Jason movie or something like. It seemed like a knockoff 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:34.360 of a real slasher film. I wasn't sure I was 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.719 watching the right thing, That's why I know, and nobody 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.360 cared either, Like I just asked and nobody was like, yeah, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.159 this is the right one. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:48.520 Yeah, so you just watched it. It ain't it. I 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:53.359 ain't watching enough. It was funny how they like I 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.560 thought that if you put the words in separately, it will 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:57.040 something messe will pop up. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:58.640 What'd you watch it on to me? 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.760 Or I think it was too lucky that they just 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.200 took it off to but because it's a part two. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.440 Yeah there's part two, there's part three, and then there's 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:07.760 a return to sleep Away Camp. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:08.640 Yeah that's what I saw. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.760 That's what the first when I was putting it in, 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:11.920 one of those was popping. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:12.640 It was the rake. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.039 So yeah, yeah, it was typical like what you guys 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.760 are saying slash the film eighties. If you've seen I 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.119 feel like one movie from that era, you've seen them all, 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.760 with the exception of the twist at the end. So yeah, 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.400 this movie never crossed I mean, y'ah, I've never heard it. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.080 Thinking about in all my life, I didn't. I never 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.599 heard of this movie until Mike brought it up last 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.840 year or so. But even as a kid, I don't 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.880 even know. This never crossed my reading. I never heard 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:44.839 of this same. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:47.200 Was it underground? 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.440 Like? Was it like a I mean no, it was 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.400 no more underground than any of the other old Slashers 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.440 back then. One more one more. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.000 Like that's like was that you would consider like kind 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.839 of not supermans because this come out in the theaters? 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:01.160 Did it? 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.719 I'm pretty sure it did, because I don't know. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:09.120 What what I looked up after I watched it. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.599 It did. I'm pretty sure it did. I just don't 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.960 I don't think it performs well. But don't do that. 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.279 But you know, movies like The Burning or you know, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.400 Tourist Trap, those like Slashers had a run because they 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.520 were fairly easy formulas. You just have, uh, you know, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.159 a person, whether you want to give him a motive 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.920 or not. He's just going around killing people, but who 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.560 knows why. You know, this is a pretty standard slasher movie. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:41.400 The the twist is what made it, you know, a 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:47.599 cult classic. If the lead actress, you know, if she's 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.560 at a comic con, everyone knows what she's there for, like, oh, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.200 you're Angela from sleep Away Camp. Do the face, do 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:58.480 the face, do the face? And she still does it. Yeah, 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.480 she still does it. So yeah, I mean it was 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.440 just as quote unquote popular as some of the more 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:10.560 less mainstream slasher films. But yeah, it didn't perform very 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:17.040 well because even for that era of slashers, this was 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:22.320 pretty low budget. They didn't have any famous actors or actresses. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.960 I think the effects are pretty good, honestly, but we'll 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:27.400 get to that. 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.200 But I think this movie is good. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.680 I do understand people looking at it and being like, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:38.920 this is extremely offensive, So I feel bad talking about that. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.520 I think that I put this movie in that category, 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:47.080 the same category of like Eminem's Marshall Matters LP. The 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:52.560 fucking album is great, but it's extremely homophobic. It's extremely offensive. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.240 I get it. So it's like one of those things 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.160 where you're like, yes, it is a fucked up piece 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.080 of art, but the same time, it's kind of hard 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.520 to deny the entertainment value from it. But I can 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.520 also say that because I'm not in the queer community. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.920 So if somebody from that community was like, that's fucked up, 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.760 I'm not gonna argue, like, yep, you're right, that is 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.240 fucked up. It's like white people be talking about how 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.560 they love mel Brooks films. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.320 is it Blazing Saddles, that's mel Brooks right where it's 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.440 just nigger this, nigga that, Or how much they love 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.480 Tarantino films. It's like, all right, bro, I get it. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:32.880 But you know, anyways, it did have a theatrical release. Yeah, figured, yeah, 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.800 I figured, but I don't think it performed very well 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:35.360 in the theaters. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.520 It made eleven million at that time. That's pretty good 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:38.760 to me. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:43.360 That is good because they only use three hundred k 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:48.120 I think, so that is good. The second one had 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.120 a limited theatrical release. Well, the second and the third 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.120 one had nothing to do. They didn't have the same 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.480 actress and the director didn't do those. Yeah, and I 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.120 mean I've seen all of them, and the second the 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.440 third one really had nothing. They had nothing to do 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.200 with the first one. The third DVD figures. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.000 So first one did well with I'm sure I'm surprised 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.280 the second one didn't do well. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:12.280 You said, what didn't happen? 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.920 But I think the critics, okay, I could see that 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.280 because the original the original one. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.840 Yeah, all right. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.199 Well we're gonna go ahead and run through this bad boy. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:25.160 All right. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.079 So the movie starts off. There's a guy on the 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.640 lake with his kids. Uh, he has a son and 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.120 a daughter, and while they're on the water, an accident happens, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.120 which kills the father and one of the kids. So, Spike, 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:38.760 when you when you first cut this on, and that's 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.679 the beginning where you were you on board or were 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.040 you already like this is stupid? I was already like 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.560 this is stupid. I would not that harsh of it. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.560 No, I was wondering where they were gonna take us 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.000 with the death, like just gonna make this little. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:53.680 The person that was left back. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.719 Was it gonna make them some like evil spirit or 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.280 something like that? 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.960 That might have been better? Right? All right? 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:01.600 Rod? 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.840 What about you? I unfortunately figured it out at this point. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.679 How'd you figure it out? This is one of my 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:09.839 biggest issues with this film. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.760 Yeah, when the kid was swimming in the water and 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.040 I was just like, oh, I think I know what's 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:15.640 gonna happen. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.760 I really don't know why they did that. Yeah, it's 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.360 been granted. When I was a kid and I saw this, 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.280 I saw this problem. I was like, ten, I didn't 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.480 I didn't pick that up. But as an adult looking 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.760 at it, You're like, why the fuck did you do that? 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.319 You just gave the whole movie away. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.680 Yeah, Kenny, you didn't show you didn't show the face purposely, 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.600 And I was just like, ah, man, you see the hair. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:39.679 You see the hair? 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:44.520 Yeah, so I'm like, yeah, got it. So yeah, that 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.360 was the first thing I thought about. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:47.280 I was like, damn it. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.080 This is why I'm like watching trailers and all that 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.840 type of stuff, because certain things I could pick up 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:53.959 on and what they're gonna do. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.840 And so yeah, that's that. That was my only issue 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.840 early on. Yeah, the uh. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:05.560 The boat that them, that was really obvious. She wasn't 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.160 looking ahead of it, Like, Yo, how long are you 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:08.920 gonna not look in front of you? 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:16.920 Like Jesus kind of in an open body of water shore, Yeah, 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:21.400 something like come on, y'all. So, yeah, that was that 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.760 was that was crazy? Ken. Did you figure it out 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:24.439 at the beginning or. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:30.400 No, I mean not not like that, No, but I 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.200 mean that the da You know, of course we knew 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.920 he was gone because they showed up the life jacket 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:40.640 and I suspected that that, you know, the kid may 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.120 not make it up with all. But I was just 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.160 so stuck on the yelling that the girl was doing. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:55.800 Like we didn't even see anything. They don't have any 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.080 blood in this movie, which is funny. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.920 They did, I mean they did not. Yeah. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.680 Yeah, and the shower scene when she when uh, oh, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.320 yeah Meg, I think her name is Meg, right, I 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:09.760 think I was? 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.240 Yeah, what was I thinking about that? Yeah, you're right, 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.680 it was a lot. Well. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:19.480 Eight years later, we catch up with uh Richard aka 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.640 Ricky and Angela and they live with Ricky's mom Martha. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:27.480 What did you think of Aunt Martha? Spike? No, that 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.160 just won't do no, no, no, no. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.280 One was talking the riddles and stuff. Yes, it was 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:37.760 supposed to be a doctor or something. I just marked 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.200 this down. A's crazy in this movie, just being crazy. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:47.360 Later on, something came from her being crazy though, right, Well, yeah, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:48.160 we'll get there. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.400 Yeah, but yeah, I just thought she was a crazy person. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:51.920 I mean, the basically the whole movie came for her. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a driving force behind what happened. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:59.199 But I really didn't think too much about her at 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.200 the moment because it was. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.680 Really just like, damn, just being sent to camp. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.200 So that's all I looked at it, just the same 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:07.760 for like, hey, we're gonna go to camp, and you 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.800 gotta go to camp, and that was it. Okay, it 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:15.600 was a little over top for me, like them, just 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.280 make this a little bit more believable. 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:19.280 Why are y'all gonna be over. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.600 I know, And like you said, I was trying my 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.640 best to put myself back in that place, but it 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:27.400 was it was hard. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.079 It was tough. I can't lie. It was tough. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.440 I've never I mean, I'm assuming this was intentional because 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.040 the acting in the movie is bad, but Aunt Martha, 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.640 if she's supposed to be serious, she's terrible. So I'm 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.920 assuming that this was intentional to kind of show that 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.000 she was having a mental break. But yeah, I fuck 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:51.480 with on Martha. Martha's crazy as shit. But uh, Ricky 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.240 and Angelo are sent to camp and at camp we 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.400 meet mel mel Is a guy who runs the camp. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:00.400 We meet Ben, who is the cook, the black guy, which, 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.320 by the way, that y'all know who he was. Oh man, 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:07.760 I'm sorry, so you don't know his last name Earl Jones. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:12.360 So really that's James, Earl Jones's father. Really I could 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.240 tell you. Yeah, for sure. I was like, he looks. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.920 He reminds me they couldn't get James Jones. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.520 James like, no, I'm not doing that ship. Better call 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.600 my daddy. He ain't doing nothing right now. That's wow. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:25.920 That is really cool. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.800 Though I didn't know his act well he doesn't, but 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.680 I know he was in his dad was the movie. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.480 You know who else is in this acting? This? 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.120 Y'all know the situation from Jersey Shore. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.000 No heard about him. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.200 Before though, okay, well for those of you that do 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.240 know whose situation is, his brother is in this movie is. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.880 Damn that's being Earl Jones. That's crazy. That is James. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.480 I was thinking when I see him, I thoughts, look like, 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.040 look like once you know, you won't unsee it. He 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.400 looks like him and he's sure the funk sounds like 0:14:58.840 --> 0:14:59.480 it's crazy. 0:14:59.640 --> 0:14:59.960 But yeah. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.320 Then we also meet Artie who's the white cook and 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.560 then we meet probably Spike's favorite character in the whole film, Ronnie. 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.840 Ronnie is a dude that's just wearing the shorts that 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.520 of the Oh my god, he. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.440 May as well just being fucking drunk, especially from the back. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:18.119 What the hell. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:21.880 Put some clothes on it? 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:30.320 All the boys? Yeah, the truck is crazy in this movie. Yo, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.480 what is happening? Yeah? 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.200 All the men and boys were dressed kind of wide. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.800 Especially actually the men were dressed worse than the It's 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.880 like the dude had crop top, the hal the top. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:42.960 I was like, bro, what they. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.160 I couldn't what is happening? 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:51.240 Right? There is a string. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.240 I remember niggas used to wear biker ships and ship 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.920 I remember that error. Yeah, I remember the biker short era, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.760 but like, nah, man, this was the pumps in the bump. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:02.600 But no, man, I. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:07.160 Was like, yo, wowest dream short short. Don't know, man, 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.520 but it's fucking It's funny as hell to me, dude, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.600 this movie is so weird. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.000 You would love to have more content from Frames per Second. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.600 Become a patron where you can contribute to what we 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.840 review and discuss. Our Patreon gives the listeners the power 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.960 to nominate and vote a monthly discussion and film review, 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.360 while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.320 each cast member. 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We're not sure how 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.399 deep that thing was for Judy clearly clearly wasn't that deep. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.760 But we also meet camp counselors Susie and Meg. But 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.920 what did y'all think about how Angela was behaving towards 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:23.760 the other people at camp? Did y'all just think she 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.240 was special? Or did you think she was crazy? 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:27.080 I did. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:32.560 I thought that traumatized from what happened. I don't know 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.000 if it was it's not the same camp right, whether 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:37.920 it happened, so she went back. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.080 Okay, cool, So I was I was right about that. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:42.360 Camp. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.000 Yeah, so I thought she just went back to a 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.480 place where a tragic event happened, and she just shut 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.840 down and was just looking at everybody like I'm with them, Man, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:53.600 what the fuck is wrong with you. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:56.000 Looking at me like that? 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.359 But I wouldn't have kept messing with her because I'm 0:17:58.359 --> 0:17:59.760 like that motherfucker crazy right. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.360 Also as a kid, I get it too. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.000 Because you you bully other kids that are weird so 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.640 you can fit in peer pressure whatever whatever. The other 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.800 thing I thought was interesting just as a quick as side. Well, 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.119 I know we'll get to that scene. But I was 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.920 thinking about, like how the teenagers were talking among each other. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.720 And I remember I was playing with my my wife. 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.520 I was in there cooking something like that. It was 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.600 on and we were watching it. I was like, I 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.400 was like, and I was remember the conversation they were 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:27.879 having about Judy and the other person. 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.359 I was like, dangn these movies did used to. 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.679 Kind of promote sex at a young age to like 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.359 teenagers and stuff like it was normal, like you had to. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.200 Be normalized it. Bro. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.000 I was like, yo, this is kind of like looking back, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:47.760 I'm like, yo, this is crazy. Ye now something would 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.480 they would say, they would like you have set you 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.760 get killed, you know, so it was like that. 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:53.880 But I was just like, yo, this is crazy. 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.200 So I thought that that was interesting just looking at 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.960 it as an adult now and what the times were. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:05.800 Yeah, yeah, No, Angela is doing an amazing job of 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.840 playing like she's fucking insane. So did y'all take it 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.439 as she was insane or did y'all take think she 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:12.800 was slow or both? 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:14.320 I didn't say. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.879 I didn't think insane and just that she was just 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.520 I won't even say necessarily shot. Well, I guess shine 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:26.479 a sense more. I lean more towards just like like 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.679 just not social, because I mean she was like that 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.320 at the house. It wasn't just the camp. She just 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.320 just quiet. But yeah, that's that's just I didn't take 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:37.919 any further. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:38.720 I don't know. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.200 Yeah, I thought since Mike was holding it in, since 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.520 I regarded the little girl was crazy and she was 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.800 just like flip out on everybody's like, so something crazy 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:49.520 it was gonna happen. 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.000 Well, she seems to not want to talk or eat, 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.439 and Ronnie with his little short shorts, he tries to 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.720 help her by taking her to the kitchen again to 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.480 get the cooks to try to find her something that 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.920 she actually may want to eat, but something goes down 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.680 in the walking closet between her and Artie. But then 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.600 Lartie gets what he deserves a few minutes later when 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.639 a pot of boiling water falls on him. So what 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.760 did y'all think of this part? And were y'all surprised 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.760 that they were putting like pedal shit in this? 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.240 I was yeah, yeah, like immediately because he was saying 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:23.439 that when they were like fresh, mean like, I'm like, 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:24.359 what the hell? 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.440 Yeah, And now I'm trying to guess the movies. I'm like, oh, 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.160