Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: We're back with another review for X Men ninety seven.
Speaker 2: If you know, I'm doc, been hosting this for a while,
Speaker 2: and we got Mike, we got rid Man.
Speaker 1: I know it was a call and response. I thought
Speaker 1: you were just saying, who was here? Thank King the
Speaker 1: only one to do that.
Speaker 2: He'll just go around and then a Spike should be
Speaker 2: here or I don't know, we'll see what's gonna happen
Speaker 2: with Spike. He should be here, but you know, he
Speaker 2: may feel like I don't really need to be here
Speaker 2: talk about X Man.
Speaker 3: Everybody say that I would just showing when I show
Speaker 3: he didn't like the last episode?
Speaker 1: SI he watching it?
Speaker 2: He probably enjoyed it, but like I could, I could
Speaker 2: live without watching Next Man. So uh so, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: here for episode X dead Man's Hand Overall thoughts, Ken,
Speaker 2: how are you feeling about this episode?
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I'm not familiar with the storyline. When
Speaker 3: it ended, I forgot there was one more episode, so
Speaker 3: I was concerned. I was like, oh shit, no way
Speaker 3: to season ending like this. But I think the there
Speaker 3: is a small gripe that I have is that they're
Speaker 3: compacting a lot into like thirty thirty minutes, and it's just.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that.
Speaker 3: I felt like there's so much that happened in this storyline,
Speaker 3: this story arc, if this is a real story arc
Speaker 3: in the book, yeah, that we're not getting in terms
Speaker 3: of the details building up, like making certain things matter.
Speaker 3: But other than that, though, I didn't enjoy it, especially
Speaker 3: towards the end. But yeah, I just felt like there's
Speaker 3: a lot that I'm missing that the books gave us
Speaker 3: that make it matter just a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Are you feeling right?
Speaker 4: I'll be feeling like that initially, like that can but
Speaker 4: the more I watch it, the more I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: it is that part, is that detail needed?
Speaker 1: And I end up enjoying.
Speaker 4: It more or whatever I mean, I end up I
Speaker 4: always end up like really confused. I'm like where this
Speaker 4: person come from? When how they tied to this? Because
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying. But they'll do little subtle
Speaker 4: things in the show that will be like Okay, all right,
Speaker 4: that's how that happened or or whatever. So so yeah,
Speaker 4: I end up being okay by the end of the
Speaker 4: show with how they execute it.
Speaker 1: So you really you messed this episode, like, yeah, yah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 4: I do agree that, you know, some stuff is confusing
Speaker 4: because I don't know all the characters and all the
Speaker 4: nuanced other characters. But I think the show does enough
Speaker 4: with like kind of context clues.
Speaker 1: Here and there to bring you up the speed a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 4: And it's this is one thing, one spot in particular
Speaker 4: that it did it because I'm like, where this person
Speaker 4: come from?
Speaker 1: And then they said something and I'm like, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what he came.
Speaker 2: So you don't feel like Spike when he said he
Speaker 2: was watching Spider Man last week?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? What do you say? He was
Speaker 1: like he felt like there were things happening that he's
Speaker 1: supposed to see.
Speaker 2: It takes away from it, but you feel like you
Speaker 2: all right with some of the context closing.
Speaker 4: So I feel like that at first until I hear
Speaker 4: something here and there and then and then and then
Speaker 4: I'm good after that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, got you got you? How you feeling Mike?
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm kind of a combination of the two of them.
Speaker 2: But my my issue is this episode made me put
Speaker 2: one foot out of this show because I just don't
Speaker 2: care about this and I feel like they built up
Speaker 2: all this gambit shit and it didn't really go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Nothing.
Speaker 2: It didn't go anywhere. It didn't have like this huge impact,
Speaker 2: like these motherfuckers hopped off the plane. Was like, oh,
Speaker 2: Gampus back, I'm ready to fight. We don't want to
Speaker 2: fight you, but we will. All of this, all of
Speaker 2: this you built up for a season and gambits show
Speaker 2: up Gray and don't do nothing. The books, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't remember if it was Gray or in the books.
Speaker 2: He probably was, but he just showed up and nothing
Speaker 2: really happened. So it wasn't a bad episode. I just
Speaker 2: didn't care like I'm usually like last season, I was
Speaker 2: excited for Wednesdays, like, man, let's go another episode.
Speaker 1: This time, I was like, man, I'll get to this ship.
Speaker 4: I thought y'all was gonna be hype about the gaming thing.
Speaker 4: Y'all you have been talking about it. I know it happened,
Speaker 4: and nothing really happened. He didn't kill nobody, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He didn't really fuck nobody up. He
Speaker 4: did some damn I didn't see no da well.
Speaker 1: He ain't killed anybody, just turned them over to death basically,
Speaker 1: and none of them did anything either.
Speaker 2: They just the only thing we saw, which we'll get
Speaker 2: to is night crawling whooping the shit out.
Speaker 3: Of everybody just turned into Gambit zombies.
Speaker 1: Like what, Yeah, I thought I thought that was part
Speaker 1: of the storyline. It might be. I don't remember the
Speaker 1: storyline details.
Speaker 2: I was just expecting, like, because the show changes shit,
Speaker 2: So I was expecting after they built all of this
Speaker 2: up that Gambit was gonna show up and it was
Speaker 2: one gonna be this big emotional thing, which it wasn't really,
Speaker 2: and two he was really gonna cause problems, which he
Speaker 2: kind of didn't.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad episode.
Speaker 2: It was just like, all right, now, you got one
Speaker 2: episode left, and I don't really know how much I
Speaker 2: care about how the season is gonna end.
Speaker 1: At this point. M I like the revealing this, but okay.
Speaker 2: I guess we'll get to ituse I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: reveal you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: I guess my question would be, what do y'all feel?
Speaker 2: Last season's finale gave y'all that this like well, the ending.
Speaker 2: The last couple of episodes of season one gave y'all
Speaker 2: that the ending of this isn't giving y'all right now,
Speaker 2: because you talked about nobody died. I mean, nobody really
Speaker 2: died at the end of last season either, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: how much did they build up something over the course
Speaker 2: of the entire season.
Speaker 1: We lost, but that was in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: It still happened. No one's died this season died. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm bad. You're right, you're right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that formed this whole group. I know he's gonna
Speaker 4: come back. It's not even that big of a you
Speaker 4: keep doing that.
Speaker 1: Like, because I didn't think Gambit was complete.
Speaker 2: I don't ever think anybody when right and y'all said
Speaker 2: that last.
Speaker 1: Year about Gamby. He's like, oh, he's gonna come back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But then I said the same shit about it. It did.
Speaker 2: It did because it was more emotional because you had
Speaker 2: this whole city.
Speaker 1: But the magnet it did. The Magneto scene was fine.
Speaker 2: But I think if if if I remember Hi correctly,
Speaker 2: I wasn't all like, oh my god, Magneto, I'm so sad.
Speaker 2: It was just like, all right, bro, Magneto died. That sucks,
Speaker 2: but he'll be back, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: I don't need people to die and stay dead forever.
Speaker 2: It's just if if Gambit came back and killed Cyclops,
Speaker 2: I'd have been like, all right, well, god damn Magneque.
Speaker 1: You know, Gampus back causing problems.
Speaker 2: If Rogue came out with oh Shay, I just want
Speaker 2: to touch you again, and fucking Gambit was like bitch
Speaker 2: and killed her, I'd be like, this is crazy, let's go.
Speaker 1: But I know they're going to be back.
Speaker 2: But it's like that death in that moment hits just
Speaker 2: like Gampus death.
Speaker 1: In that moment it hit. Smallfucker had parting words.
Speaker 2: Remember, man, you don'tdn't really say nothing, but I.
Speaker 1: Child get this motherfucker off my head. Bro crazy. I
Speaker 1: just I really focused this episode. I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I liked it a lot, especially the second time watching it.
Speaker 2: I felt like the stakes were there, like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of I know you talked about like no emotional
Speaker 2: I felt like a lot of emotional pull, like.
Speaker 1: From who a bunch of people honestly Rogue for one
Speaker 1: road need her ass. And so anyway I learned I
Speaker 1: learned this week.
Speaker 2: It's been right in front of me, and I'm kind
Speaker 2: of just I was kind of disappointed in myself when
Speaker 2: the person told me about it the symbolism of like
Speaker 2: rogue herself. I was like, but that should been in
Speaker 2: front of me the whole time, like about how she's
Speaker 2: basically the symbolism for misogyny. I was like that she
Speaker 2: was in front of me the whole time and I didn't
Speaker 2: notice it.
Speaker 1: Like said, she's a symbolism for misogyny.
Speaker 2: Like her powers are basically shaped around misogyny. Oh, like
Speaker 2: it was in front of me to her like, oh,
Speaker 2: I ain't never catch that ship, my dumb, Like it
Speaker 2: made me feel like, damn you dumb, Like that's been
Speaker 2: the thing in the comics since day one.
Speaker 1: But I ain't got nothing to do with the show.
Speaker 2: But nah, but I mean it didn't have But I
Speaker 2: think it just made me feel for a rogue even
Speaker 2: more this episode now like a click click for.
Speaker 1: Me that she can't touch her man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're kind of saying, like, you know, when when
Speaker 2: a woman, I don't, I don't know if we want
Speaker 2: to get into that deep we just.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna change. It's not change anything.
Speaker 2: It's just the symbolism of like her not being able
Speaker 2: to be touched but men still touching.
Speaker 1: And they did like and they get.
Speaker 2: They get up, and they still blame her for the reason,
Speaker 2: even though it's their fault when they know they shouldn't
Speaker 2: touch in the first place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I told you.
Speaker 2: I know it ain't gonna make a difference to him.
Speaker 2: I'm just giving you what I like. And oh that
Speaker 2: she was in front of me the whole time. But
Speaker 2: but yeah, I really fuck with this episode.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you. But who was the other emotional pool?
Speaker 1: I'm curious.
Speaker 2: I just I just not emotion so much a pool
Speaker 2: the relationship of Cable and his parents, just like how
Speaker 2: they like outside clops them with just trying to be
Speaker 2: like the constant trying to be a father and not
Speaker 2: be a father at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that ship, man.
Speaker 2: I love for Gambit six, like I mean, for cable sake,
Speaker 2: Like I.
Speaker 3: Get hate is a strong word. It's it's just it's
Speaker 3: just like, all right, here we go with this again.
Speaker 1: A complex situation though.
Speaker 2: That's why I fuck with it is I like the
Speaker 2: complexity of it, Like, especially because I know how Cable is.
Speaker 2: Cable is about business, so them trying to do this
Speaker 2: emotional piece and like, you don't.
Speaker 1: Really have the right to do this shit because you
Speaker 1: gave me up and like you that's what's funny. He's like,
Speaker 1: I ain't got time for this.
Speaker 2: Like, nah, nigga, we got business now, but I'll use
Speaker 2: this to my advantage. Like it's just a complex situation
Speaker 2: that I fuck with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it too.
Speaker 2: I just want to point out when I said I
Speaker 2: didn't get any emotion, I was specifically talking about the
Speaker 2: Gambit situation, specifically the I feel you on the Scott
Speaker 2: and Jane and Cable thing. Even though I'm kind of
Speaker 2: sort of like Ken not so much. I hate this
Speaker 2: or I dislike this. I just don't really care all
Speaker 2: that much, but I do get it. I'm with Rod
Speaker 2: mostly that it's a complex situation and there's no good
Speaker 2: way to handle this.
Speaker 1: You know, we gave you up.
Speaker 2: It's like a child that's being given up for adoption
Speaker 2: because you can't fucking take care of it. Then they
Speaker 2: come back twenty years later and you try to form
Speaker 2: a relationship, they're like, no, motherfucker, you gave me up.
Speaker 4: It's still not really taking accountability for it. Why you
Speaker 4: didn't tell you know, why you didn't tell us that
Speaker 4: you knew us.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I was I could not I
Speaker 2: could not be the parent that you needed, but you
Speaker 2: also feel for that job, like, yeah, you should have
Speaker 2: figured the funk out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a complex situation. I think part of it
Speaker 1: for y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all well at least can't in a little bit for you,
Speaker 2: is y'all lived with this story already.
Speaker 1: Not really not really I.
Speaker 3: Get you though, Yeah, yeah, and no, it's maybe it's
Speaker 3: just the voice actors ain't really selling it, you know,
Speaker 3: But it's just I don't know, I'm just not all
Speaker 3: that interested in it because it's like you're doing it
Speaker 3: just to kind of maybe break momental or whatever. And
Speaker 3: it's just like I guess maybe the complex you guys
Speaker 3: are talking about, they're not able to convey it in
Speaker 3: one or two scenes.
Speaker 2: I think if I had to have one critique before
Speaker 2: we keep diving into the episode, the patient still isn't
Speaker 2: the best, and I think that does hinder it. Like
Speaker 2: someone That's what I get what you were saying beginning
Speaker 2: about is a lot going on. The pacing is just
Speaker 2: not the best right now, and it kind of is
Speaker 2: taken away from the story.
Speaker 4: They leave a lot up to Just like I said,
Speaker 4: the little things, is it like recap when it. I
Speaker 4: don't remember they put it in the recaps, like how
Speaker 4: Colossus had a sister.
Speaker 1: It was his sister. Oh Am, I thinking about the
Speaker 1: roso I watched that was that? Yeah? I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about.
Speaker 4: Them too, So I might do that because I watched
Speaker 4: both of them.
Speaker 1: That's why you're so hyped. Because the last episode was
Speaker 1: so good. It really was not. It wasn't. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying this episode better than.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's kind of my issue too, is
Speaker 2: it's two episodes in a row that are just like
Speaker 2: I It's like, it's like two episodes that were like.
Speaker 1: Six is out of ten? I can, I can. I
Speaker 1: can give you that six out of ten is good.
Speaker 1: I give you that. I give it more like a
Speaker 1: seven point. I still don't pass fact.
Speaker 4: Y'all Almost there, So, y'all wasn't in a hype on
Speaker 4: the last one with that Magneto crew.
Speaker 2: That was the last one, right, Yeah? Yeah, I thought
Speaker 2: the episode was cool. I thought this one was better. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll get we'll get through it. A couple of things,
Speaker 2: y'all already, A couple of questions. I had it all right,
Speaker 2: I feel y'all at so it's like, all right, let's
Speaker 2: try to.
Speaker 1: Move around it a little bit.
Speaker 2: So this episode opens episode eight with him back in
Speaker 2: Genosha and where we see Rogue is reliving the events
Speaker 2: leading up to Gambit's death.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go straight to you, Mike as you shake
Speaker 1: your hand. You was already over.
Speaker 2: This, Because my question is was the flash Was this
Speaker 2: flashback effective for us to bring us back to that
Speaker 2: moment for Rogue?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 2: Because I think Rogue was fucked up for us. I
Speaker 2: think Rogue was fucked up last season for this ship
Speaker 2: and the fact that she's over here imagining the ship,
Speaker 2: but she removed the motherfucker that she left campit for.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm looking at you crazy right now. You'll
Speaker 2: react like you're dancing by yourself. No no, no, no
Speaker 2: no no. I was trying, no no no. I was
Speaker 2: over here trying to get you to be my girl.
Speaker 2: And you said, nah, bro, I'm going with the old dude.
Speaker 2: And you was over here floating and you knew I
Speaker 2: was here, You knew I was in the room, and
Speaker 2: you floating around and shit like a fucking like the
Speaker 2: end of Cinderella or some garbage, and you'll be are
Speaker 2: kissing on.
Speaker 1: Him and whatnot. Nah, and then you want old Remmy.
Speaker 1: I miss you Remmy. No, you don't. You are the
Speaker 1: reason I'm dead. You feel the same way Rod I did.
Speaker 4: I did because they did omit that part to make
Speaker 4: I guess, to heighten the relationship between the two. I
Speaker 4: feel like that's why they did it, to heighten that relationship.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I had that same feeling last season. I
Speaker 4: feel like, uh, I'm like, damn, she played she played
Speaker 4: Gambit like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I'm with Michael on this, and they didn't
Speaker 4: hit as hard because yeah, I just couldn't feel the
Speaker 4: emotion for her and the love that she feels for
Speaker 4: Gamut like that or whatnot. I know she was kind
Speaker 4: of it was kind of like this lord his love
Speaker 4: was cool, so she was torn. I guess I can't
Speaker 4: remember exactly why she went with Magneto over Gambit.
Speaker 1: Does anybody remember that she's always not that's part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's the only one that she can actually touch and
Speaker 1: doesn't take it. I do not even realize she could
Speaker 1: touch him when I maybe I did.
Speaker 2: I just forgot, I forgot why something like he put
Speaker 2: the magnetism over his mouth or some stupid shit. I
Speaker 2: mean probably probably, that's probably how they funck, I guess,
Speaker 2: but it is like a magnetic condom. To be totally
Speaker 2: fair to Rogue, she did at the last minute, if
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, she did say no to Magneto and
Speaker 2: was gonna go back to Gambit okay, and but it
Speaker 2: was too late.
Speaker 1: Gambit was already on his motorbike. Oh okay, okay, So
Speaker 1: that did happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did decide last after she made out with
Speaker 2: him in front of him. It's not like Gambit did
Speaker 2: some fun. If Gambit ran off and fucked some other
Speaker 2: girl and had twelve.
Speaker 1: Kids, she was trying to protect them. Nah, that's fucked up.
Speaker 1: You know. Do you love them? What she was trying
Speaker 1: to protect them?
Speaker 2: Then be like, hey, bro, don't come stay home. You
Speaker 2: don't want to be here for this. But you dancing
Speaker 2: and swinging around in the air, and you kissing this
Speaker 2: dude in front of me, knowing I'm in love with you.
Speaker 2: Just got done crying five minutes before. No, Rogue is dirty, Bro,
Speaker 2: Rogue foullas fucked for this.
Speaker 1: Sh go ahead? Can I'm more with with Mike?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she she went back to him, which was supposed
Speaker 3: to make the moment of him his death matters most
Speaker 3: because like, oh, she didn't get a chance, but she
Speaker 3: had a chance, and she didn't take take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: She was doing the opposite, so she missed out on that.
Speaker 3: But in terms of using this to kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: reset everything that was about to happen, it didn't work
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just looking at it as far as
Speaker 2: a person who she made a mistake and she she again,
Speaker 2: like you said, she was going to be with Gambit,
Speaker 2: but death it happened.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it just happened.
Speaker 2: I can understand her living with that regret and feeling that,
Speaker 2: and we saw it over and over again throughout last
Speaker 2: season and this season of her living with her like
Speaker 2: I made the wrong decision. Like I know it's a
Speaker 2: couple of women out there feel the same way about me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 4: Man, you know what I'm You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like damn when that got away? You know you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Up, you know what I'm saying, So like I steel Rod,
Speaker 2: like get you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: He's like, you're out there listening, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So yeah, with her thinking about it, especially with him
Speaker 2: dead like I can see and now a piece of
Speaker 2: her probably feels like, oh he's back, like whatever. That's
Speaker 2: why I was like, oh, this is a good way
Speaker 2: to start the episode because it put me back in like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, she did really have feelings for a Gambit.
Speaker 2: She just made an executive decision in that moment because
Speaker 2: Magnet like you longing for someone to touch you, and
Speaker 2: this person can touch.
Speaker 1: You, Like, yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, it's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: like I'm longing it finally got somebody that could touch me.
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, come on, it is a tough decision.
Speaker 2: I guess your point is still fucked up, but it
Speaker 2: is a tough spot to be in. Gambit put a
Speaker 2: mask on and wear a condom you think if you could,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't. By now, I'm wondering why it didn't happen
Speaker 2: because I think she was probably just like, look, I
Speaker 2: love you, but I don't think I want a relationship
Speaker 2: with you. And then this nice silver haired brother showed
Speaker 2: up and was like hey girl, and she was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, I'm about to go with him. Man, I
Speaker 2: ain't wearing no condom all my life, girl, And that's
Speaker 2: campus fault. If we liked in, that's that's that's gonna
Speaker 2: be in all that. I guess this this whole storyline,
Speaker 2: and I know it's not feasible. This storyline would have
Speaker 2: benefited from another season to make me feel the whole thing.
Speaker 2: But again, that's not really the show's fault. I know
Speaker 2: they're trying to get somewhere and they don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of time, so it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Any of y'all play poker? Poker? I tried it, but
Speaker 1: yeah it's Mike, You're not you know, play poker. I
Speaker 1: wants it, man, which way you do? I'm sick.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like, did you enjoy this episode?
Speaker 1: No? Excellent? See what I told you to you?
Speaker 6: That was exactly my words when the episode ended, to
Speaker 6: be honest with you here, I'm over this too much.
Speaker 6: I don't know what the fuck is going on, man,
Speaker 6: I feel that it is a lot. Even when I
Speaker 6: watched the little review videos, I'll be like, bro, what
Speaker 6: I don't know none of these people. I don't know
Speaker 6: what they're talking about. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did you watch the first season. I remember if we
Speaker 1: reviewed it out with.
Speaker 6: You, it did seem like the first season had this
Speaker 6: many prerequeds as far as well, you gotta know this dude,
Speaker 6: and then this dude's gonna die and come back, and
Speaker 6: then he gonna die and come back, and then like
Speaker 6: I just mm hm hm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Well what is the dead man's hand? It
Speaker 1: was just.
Speaker 6: It's like not tombstone, but it was this old Western gangster,
Speaker 6: you know. I figured it was an old Western gangster.
Speaker 6: He had two eights and two aces and he was
Speaker 6: beefing with people in the gambling parlor and they killed
Speaker 6: him and that was his hand when he died. So
Speaker 6: to a and two aces or a dead man's hands
Speaker 6: tombstone two, I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they shot him in the back of the head, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about cars, so I just know
Speaker 2: they shot him in the back of his head.
Speaker 1: Is it a good hand to have? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Two eights and two aces and then whatever come out?
Speaker 6: You still got two.
Speaker 1: Dough somebody got a blokey to the back of your head.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, so yal flush, Yeah, it's only three hands,
Speaker 6: a royal flush or flush in a full house, that
Speaker 6: are gonna be two pairs, so it's only three hands.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be there three combinations of hands.
Speaker 1: I learned one day. But yeah, yeah, I doubled a
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, it was just stick the spades
Speaker 1: and tone.
Speaker 2: Well, while they're playing poker, Cable and X for us,
Speaker 2: they arrive on the island with the corpse of Apocalypse
Speaker 2: asking for the X men's help.
Speaker 1: Mike, did you really believe Apocalypse got killed by Gammon? No?
Speaker 1: I camember what we said last week.
Speaker 2: That's what I didn't remember either, But nah, no, and
Speaker 2: I remember and again I can't remember if I said
Speaker 2: it or not, but I remember thinking, I bet you
Speaker 2: fucking Apocalypse is just in Gambit's body. I remember thinking that.
Speaker 2: But this didn't really hit that hard. I mean they
Speaker 2: put I mean, first of all, Apocalypse like he just
Speaker 2: he smoked some of that really good crack because he
Speaker 2: was all fucking.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He was stuck in that little tube or whatever. It
Speaker 2: was interesting watching them bring him out, but I think
Speaker 2: I expected them to be a little bit more inquisitive
Speaker 2: about what the fuck happened. They seemed to kind of
Speaker 2: just move on a little quick. Oh, Apocalypse is dead
Speaker 2: all right, But I don't know why they believed it.
Speaker 1: Why because Gambit? You think Gambit's gonna come back and
Speaker 1: kill Apocalypse.
Speaker 4: So that's so I didn't know. I thought this motherfucker
Speaker 4: was like a Kuma or something like, you know, like
Speaker 4: like like evil Kin and a Kuma were like the
Speaker 4: like the dark spirit of someone that they usually it's
Speaker 4: on Street Street, it's on Street Fighter.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a Street Fighter fan, but that's what I thought.
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I don't know this version of Gambit,
Speaker 4: and y'all been talking about him so much. I didn't
Speaker 4: know if Okay, maybe he is more powerful or whatever.
Speaker 4: So that that's what I thought someone, That's what I
Speaker 4: was saying to reveal you just said it with he
Speaker 4: was inside of Gambit.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know that. I had no clue.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, did you feel sorry for what? Did you
Speaker 2: feel like Cable was being too cold to his parents?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 6: I felt him, and I felt because he's his main
Speaker 6: thing is keeping the timeline in order. I got one
Speaker 6: job to do and that's here to kill dude. Yeah,
Speaker 6: all this sentimental ship y'all caught me with's fine, but
Speaker 6: I got a job to do, boss. I like, I
Speaker 6: stuck it all the way to the d until he didn't.
Speaker 3: I do want to say, just for the record, before
Speaker 3: you moved to that scene them playing cards at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the episode, what.
Speaker 1: In the entire hell? Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 3: Why can't we be more cornya Like we're gonna play cards?
Speaker 6: I thought this was a thing that they did in
Speaker 6: X Men.
Speaker 1: This was just just gamb was like another little Eastern end. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be as nitpicky as Ken's being,
Speaker 1: but I'm we Ken she.
Speaker 3: Was corny, and I'm like, what do you? And then
Speaker 3: and everybody's happy and there they come. It was like
Speaker 3: it's it's very elementary.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was random, right, like they ain't been happy in
Speaker 3: two seasons and they're happy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see.
Speaker 2: My only question was that you know what dead man
Speaker 2: hand is because I didn't really have nothing for this scene,
Speaker 2: like they.
Speaker 1: Were just playing cards. It was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: It was a bit much, a little heavy handed.
Speaker 7: All right, everybody has, like Jesus, their concerns, but you
Speaker 7: know now that they hear that gambit is alive.
Speaker 2: Everyone's basically like, we gotta go do it. But there's
Speaker 2: everyone has like their hesitation. It's like why, how we
Speaker 2: how it should be handled? The X men use Cerebra bro.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they.
Speaker 1: Why did they? Why did they renamed? It happened in
Speaker 1: the book, but I can't remember why they.
Speaker 2: No, I don't remember, but they did what they named
Speaker 2: Cerebro crib Bro.
Speaker 1: Oh that's all.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize the name was changed, just a differentiated Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's basically that's to me.
Speaker 4: That's why I also, I don't I don't know this
Speaker 4: whole X Court storyline.
Speaker 1: Bruh.
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, because what so Cerebro was in
Speaker 4: the in the danger, so danger is basically remember the
Speaker 4: thing with the dreadlocks they can yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 4: now this is cere Bra.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't even catch that it was different or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 4: you thought it was brou.
Speaker 2: I I just thought they said it's a bro. Well,
Speaker 2: this professor X uses this to find that Gambit is
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. He can't even do this, I guess, man,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm with Ken today. I guess he
Speaker 2: was my voices, my head just to stay at home.
Speaker 2: It's getting bad. It's bad, Bro, It's bad. It's real bad.
Speaker 2: This episode just yeah, Bro, I don't know what I
Speaker 2: don't want to say about him. No more, man, it's
Speaker 2: not to say yeah.
Speaker 1: It's cut off a little bit. At one point. No,
Speaker 1: he when he got in into the know, he got
Speaker 1: his ass bomp.
Speaker 2: He said in the psyche, my will will prevail, and it.
Speaker 1: Said god off a little bit. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was in him, I was still knocking down. He'll
Speaker 1: beat his ass in there.
Speaker 4: They tried, He tried to, They tried to redeem a
Speaker 4: little bits.
Speaker 1: It reminds me how they did Optimus Prime IoT.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, mega top level is That's what
Speaker 4: I was saying last time I was here. I thought
Speaker 4: so too.
Speaker 1: But get a mega headache. That's all he can do.
Speaker 1: You can't even beat them at your own game, your
Speaker 1: own game. That was super crazy.
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Speaker 2: we now see that Gambit is death and he is
Speaker 2: he basically transforms the League of Assassins in the League
Speaker 2: of Thieves? Rod, did this make Gambit feel like a
Speaker 2: threat to you at all? Like a beginning to like
Speaker 2: all this?
Speaker 4: He always felt like a threat to me when because
Speaker 4: I thought he killed Apocalypse, I'm like, okay, well he's
Speaker 4: the ultimate threat at this point and so so now, yeah,
Speaker 4: when he was able to just like change motherfuckers with
Speaker 4: the cards and stuff to death, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I really didn't see how they would they would prevail
Speaker 4: against him.
Speaker 1: He'd seemed pretty bad ass to me.
Speaker 4: I don't know this version of Gambit, So yeah, I
Speaker 4: was I was not edge of my seat, but you
Speaker 4: get what I'm saying, Like, I was just really really
Speaker 4: interro with curious, like damn, what the hell?
Speaker 1: Because I've always been a Gambit fan.
Speaker 4: I've always liked him, but I just never knew this
Speaker 4: version of him.
Speaker 1: I had to make a name of himself. I've always
Speaker 1: liked to curious. You look cool?
Speaker 6: You did, You're riding off from the bike and shit,
Speaker 6: that was fine.
Speaker 2: So the hurry for gambit is underway with an X Men,
Speaker 2: but they're attacked by like the new transformed Leagues.
Speaker 1: So Spike, what do you think of this action sequence?
Speaker 1: When they rolled up on like.
Speaker 6: This, all of them was merging towards each other when
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 2: Well, no, this is when they're on the plane and
Speaker 2: they basically attacked the plane to get rogue, and.
Speaker 1: This was good.
Speaker 6: The later one was better. When all of the would
Speaker 6: converging each other, it looked like some Avengers ship. But
Speaker 6: I mean this was solid.
Speaker 1: I feel the same way, Mike. It was all right,
Speaker 1: It was all right.
Speaker 2: It was a little disappointed that the X Men couldn't
Speaker 2: deal with these people. I mean, I guess they have
Speaker 2: the power of death now, so they're just more powerful.
Speaker 1: But it was it was, it was fine.
Speaker 2: I think they they're holding out Cydeclops a little bit,
Speaker 2: and I never noticed it until people said it.
Speaker 1: To be.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got lasers out your eyes, bro, you
Speaker 2: can't just fucking all you gotta do is look at
Speaker 2: the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: It's like you even got an aid, you even gotta
Speaker 1: he just look at the motherfucker he in the comics.
Speaker 2: To me, he never really became the ship until he
Speaker 2: turned evil, Like he always just cool, like he has
Speaker 2: a cool aesthetic, but he was never that nigga to me, right,
Speaker 2: So that's.
Speaker 1: Why it fits for me. It doesn't bother me at all.
Speaker 2: Like I always look at Cyclops is a goodie two shoes, like,
Speaker 2: all right, bro, they're not his personality.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: He's a he's definitely a whole, but I just mean
Speaker 2: his powers. It's like, bro, I don't know. These people
Speaker 2: seem like peons. But again, they had the power of
Speaker 2: death and they had bits of apocalypse in them, So
Speaker 2: I get I get it. So were you more surprised
Speaker 2: ken that Gambit couldn't like Roll couldn't transform Gamut, or
Speaker 2: that the X Men got their ass speak.
Speaker 1: They got damn tie, but damn tie they got. They
Speaker 1: got what they wanted to dip and plus one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised that I knew. I knew it
Speaker 3: wouldn't work, but I didn't know that it would have
Speaker 3: no effect because you know, it's it was too easy,
Speaker 3: and it was halfway through the episode, so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: whatever the plan they're trying, it's gonna backfire. Either she's
Speaker 3: gonna pass out or something gonna happen. I didn't know
Speaker 3: it was gonna be like, oh, like nothing, nada. But
Speaker 3: they were in the sky, so it kind of made
Speaker 3: sense that they would lose it.
Speaker 1: Did it? Did you know?
Speaker 5: Who else?
Speaker 1: Sorry as hell?
Speaker 3: And this first fight yeah, yeah, and the air fight
Speaker 3: on the ground were something different.
Speaker 1: Who I'm kind of.
Speaker 2: With you now, Jean Sorry as hell, Jean Gray, Sorry
Speaker 2: as hell, intil the Phoenix bro.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: But they made you know, even before that, they were
Speaker 2: just like, oh, she's really powerful.
Speaker 1: As a kid.
Speaker 2: It was, you know, his first student, and she was,
Speaker 2: you know, she couldn't even hold a plane up.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't even hold up an airplane. Man.
Speaker 2: Something when you and shit don't get realized that they
Speaker 2: tap into the dark side.
Speaker 1: It's something about it.
Speaker 3: The cyclops are ready to leave, all the ass they
Speaker 3: have to convince them to stay to stop the plane
Speaker 3: black people.
Speaker 1: I think they're saying something to think they're saying something
Speaker 1: to us. Oh well.
Speaker 2: We get a brief moment of the remainder X Men
Speaker 2: as the X Men are preparing to join the team
Speaker 2: with a plane crash, but before that we see Gambit
Speaker 2: and Rogue I have in dinner about their future plans.
Speaker 1: Damn, Mike, fuck this. I'm not here for the Rogan
Speaker 1: Gambit thing anymore. I'm just not. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I hate to be so negative about this episode because
Speaker 2: I still love this show, but I'm just kind of
Speaker 2: over it. You just you just you're just a hard
Speaker 2: core fan. That's all it is. That's not what they're
Speaker 2: gonna say. I'm ready, I'm gonna I'm not saying you
Speaker 2: should ever give Oh yeah, I be hating on everything, Like, no,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you as far as like anything, like as
Speaker 2: a remake like live action, I'd be like, bro, no,
Speaker 2: like because I care so much about the regulars, like
Speaker 2: y'all not.
Speaker 1: Gonna do a justice. It ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: Spike was Rogue overthinking the fact the Gamut was offering
Speaker 2: her immortality, like she was begging for him to come back,
Speaker 2: and he offered her immortality.
Speaker 6: She was acting like she wanted to bet with him,
Speaker 6: util he made the offer to like, Okay, this is
Speaker 6: how it's gonna happen. This is the only way that
Speaker 6: it can happen, so you may as well be open
Speaker 6: to it. But I do like how she act.
Speaker 2: I think she acted like she was gonna go along
Speaker 2: with it, and to the very end when she was
Speaker 2: going along with she was with it. You think I
Speaker 2: thought she was playing like, yeah, yeah, I knew this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think she was down. I think I think she
Speaker 2: just didn't know how it was gonna happen. When she
Speaker 2: saw how it was gonna happen, she was like when
Speaker 2: she saw somebody got killed for it, she was like that,
Speaker 2: but she was down.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you knows. One thing that was
Speaker 1: different about damn bit.
Speaker 2: What was it that motherfucker looked like he was a
Speaker 2: black man? He was and she's still from the South.
Speaker 2: And did you see when they was eating they had
Speaker 2: a battle of Samoud twice?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: A Louisiana.
Speaker 1: From ya.
Speaker 4: If y'all look at it, it's a candle and it's.
Speaker 1: All I remember, just just hot sauce. There was the
Speaker 1: only other season, And I was like, what these still
Speaker 1: white days? They think hot sauce is a season So
Speaker 1: that movie put hot sauce on there, but we also
Speaker 1: put seasoning on it.
Speaker 2: White folks think hot is a flavor hot, get them
Speaker 2: like this is tasty.
Speaker 1: It's just hot. There's no sauce in Louisiana. Sauce is
Speaker 1: even spicy.
Speaker 6: It's just it's just hot.
Speaker 2: See that's the difference between black people and white people.
Speaker 2: Can't just said it it's just spicy or it's not spicy.
Speaker 1: Hot.
Speaker 2: Sorry, white folks, we love you.
Speaker 1: Can't good for ship. What Gordon Ramsey told y'all is
Speaker 1: not a seasoning. Well.
Speaker 2: This leads to gambit Enroll preparing for immortality with the
Speaker 2: leagues by attacking external and taking the power that populars
Speaker 2: gave her.
Speaker 1: This was racist to That's why she didn't want to turn.
Speaker 3: She was like, I'm sorry, I get you sorry, I
Speaker 3: am so.
Speaker 1: Rod, I'm so sorry, bro, I am so sorry. Where
Speaker 1: did I get you? No?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 8: Oh god, oh ship man, ship cut back.
Speaker 2: I did not expect that I'm cleaning up to. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 2: but damn, I don't even know. I gotta but yeah,
Speaker 2: but she's basically saw him get killed in front of her,
Speaker 2: and then that's when the X Men arrived.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how did you feel about this ride? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, they look they had heart, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But it's the first time I saw, like, I think
Speaker 4: them show up and like I wasn't sure if y'all
Speaker 4: were gonna win this, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: it was cool though. It was cool to kind of
Speaker 4: see that. I thought it was funny too. She's like,
Speaker 4: she was like, she got your ex too. What she said,
Speaker 4: he he possesses X to come try to get her
Speaker 4: to come back or something like that. I didn't know
Speaker 4: if that had any deeper meaning.
Speaker 1: Oh the woman that.
Speaker 4: Held Yes, I didn't know if that Why why is
Speaker 4: that the case?
Speaker 1: Like, what's the deal with her?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm guessing because the recap basically hints at that.
Speaker 2: Remember when Rogue was talking to Apocalypse Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: basically talking about love and I love. I guess it's
Speaker 2: like kind of like to prove to her, like how
Speaker 2: how love can break you. It's not like a good
Speaker 2: thing because he also got his heart broke.
Speaker 1: Right right right by her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you ain't fuck with I like, like it
Speaker 2: was a nice little DJ.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that detail a lot. Ken
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Why night Crawler doing like that? Man?
Speaker 3: I h they actually won against the other guys.
Speaker 1: It was night Crawler.
Speaker 3: Bro Yeah, Nightcrawler was I've never seen night Crawler get line.
Speaker 1: Like this before in my life. He got busy. Now.
Speaker 3: I think he had a good He had a good
Speaker 3: episode last season.
Speaker 1: I feel like he did. This season was different. This
Speaker 1: is what we saw. I had. My respect for Nightcrawler
Speaker 1: went up a ton like he was.
Speaker 4: He was really good at the teleportation thing, Like he's
Speaker 4: just that to his advantage for real, for real.
Speaker 2: But Mike as bad as we've seen Professor X Genie
Speaker 2: Cyclops all this this year, this year has it? It's
Speaker 2: might not be a question for you, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ask you anyway in an xpike, Has it made you
Speaker 2: appreciate the power lovers of like night Crawling, like ju
Speaker 2: Beilieve even more. They're giving them more like spotlight of
Speaker 2: Like they're not just these throwaway characters.
Speaker 1: They can actually.
Speaker 2: Shine if you give them the opportunity to do you believe,
Speaker 2: No last Last Jubilee like episode three, No, no, no, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that they didn't. I'm just saying that for me.
Speaker 2: It did not make me respect their powers anymore. I
Speaker 2: still think Jubilee is kind of sorry. I didn't really
Speaker 2: care for in the comments. She always stopped Nightcrawl. She
Speaker 2: wouldn't stop Nightcrawler. They gonna get she wasn't gonna do
Speaker 2: ship to Nightcrawler. No, she don't stopped them in this
Speaker 2: episode because she's like, everybody, close your ass.
Speaker 1: Why don't I remember that version?
Speaker 3: I must have closed my eyes too, and she did
Speaker 3: her thing and Fireworks couldn't see.
Speaker 2: I've always thought she was a great value version of Dazzler,
Speaker 2: so I still don't understand why they chose to keep
Speaker 2: her and take Dazzler.
Speaker 1: Out, but it definitely I mean, I've always.
Speaker 2: Fucked with Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler is dope. I don't think the
Speaker 2: movies ever did them right.
Speaker 1: They did, wont the movie I forgot the one when
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: When first showed up, Yeah, yeah, he was sucking up
Speaker 2: the president, but after that he didn't.
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, I thought he was doping.
Speaker 2: But this he gave all of them work. And I
Speaker 2: love that we saw it like first person. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they get this to be funny, but I
Speaker 2: was crying when he was and then you see storm
Speaker 2: arcaneel I was dying, dying, Nightcrawler was fucking all of
Speaker 2: them up, and give you more respect on him.
Speaker 6: I'm saying that's might not for Jubilee at all. For
Speaker 6: Nightcrawler definitely sold. For Cable, definitely so, but not for Jubilee.
Speaker 2: Well, was Cable wrong for betraying him?
Speaker 1: Nah? He had a mission? Mm hmm, so yeah, I understood.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say the world they betrayed him too.
Speaker 1: His parents did, but I don't even have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with it, honestly, it's just but not with this
Speaker 1: particular thing. Yeah, he saw it was dying. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: gotta take this nigga out right now, take this shot.
Speaker 2: This is believe was the one sucked it up. And
Speaker 2: sun Spot, I mean, he ain't tell him the plan.
Speaker 2: He was shocked, like, you're not doing it right, but
Speaker 2: they should be. They should have already knew, like, hey man,
Speaker 2: we can't trust this saw these niggas take out oh
Speaker 2: boy episodes ago, no fus about it.
Speaker 3: Arch Angels, Lock and and Cable. They were the only
Speaker 3: ones that were, you know, upset about it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, x Mes stupid for believing this ship because
Speaker 2: what was the what was the what was the trade off?
Speaker 2: Like when they when they first made the deal, and
Speaker 2: Professors was like, on one condition, you don't do X
Speaker 2: y Z Okay, fuck you, I'm just gonna go do
Speaker 2: this on my own.
Speaker 1: Then they came to 'all for help, but they don't
Speaker 1: really get the location. We don't like, we just need
Speaker 1: you to get us to him. We don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well professor, sorry again, you couldn't read his mind.
Speaker 2: Well he's all he's a Oh that's right, him and Sidelock.
Speaker 2: I mean, the only ones he could do is do
Speaker 2: an archangel. I sometimes forget he's a telepath. He doesn't
Speaker 2: really use it that much. Yeah, I don't think I realized.
Speaker 2: Oh I guess he would be since his parents. And
Speaker 2: that's how the plane got saved because Jeane wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: do it, so I help a little bit. He should
Speaker 2: have been one with her being on megal level, she
Speaker 2: should have been the one to do it by herself.
Speaker 2: But that's a that's a story for another day. Well,
Speaker 2: inside game with Psyche is a you know the fight
Speaker 2: that we mentioned.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Was getting busy Inspi. He would not he was not
Speaker 2: getting busy at all. I thought he was gonna save
Speaker 2: him doing the end when he was pulling out his soul.
Speaker 1: I guess it was.
Speaker 6: I don't know what was happening, but yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Played Tuger war bro right.
Speaker 3: They were I thought that, I know we talked about
Speaker 3: a little bit earlier. I thought that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: they finally they were making Xavier sorry to give him
Speaker 3: this moment.
Speaker 1: I thought that. I said, Professor was about to get busy.
Speaker 1: I thought, this is a ridiculous and it almost got there.
Speaker 1: It did. That's why I was saying he got a
Speaker 1: little busy. I don't know what I swear. I don't
Speaker 1: know what because.
Speaker 2: Talking, No, it's I think y'all think because he was
Speaker 2: talking bad, he was talking, he.
Speaker 1: Was doing something that whole time. Gambit didn't seem like
Speaker 1: he was worried at all. I don't feel you.
Speaker 4: But he was able to withstand him in moments, and
Speaker 4: nobody had been there in a moment.
Speaker 1: Like you said, it never felt like he got a
Speaker 1: one up. It felt like it was like a stallmate
Speaker 1: until gambit was over.
Speaker 3: And it's a psychic plane gambit of all people shouldn't
Speaker 3: have any type.
Speaker 1: Of regular gambit, but this game is different. It's a
Speaker 1: pocka gambit.
Speaker 3: I still even think that one should really have a
Speaker 3: chance on the cycle plane.
Speaker 2: They said, they said, Gambit has the ability to be
Speaker 2: a mega level and like he was a mega level
Speaker 2: in another universe, but he chooses he has to be
Speaker 2: evil in order to do it.
Speaker 1: That's why he doesn't do it in this So.
Speaker 3: But I mean it makes sense when we got to
Speaker 3: reveal anyway, Professor x is not one time shown why
Speaker 3: he's that guy.
Speaker 1: Not one time, not in this series, at least, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, the comics, of course, but
Speaker 1: in this no, I felt like he did slightly this episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because like I said, no one else was able
Speaker 4: to withstand this Gambit like that except him.
Speaker 2: But that would make sense in like the real world,
Speaker 2: but you're in the psychic world. That's where Charles Xavier
Speaker 2: should be sun for entire time. But instead you thought
Speaker 2: you could fool me. But I'm just gonna get bigger.
Speaker 2: I didn't even remember what he was saying. He was
Speaker 2: saying something. He didn't even get through the statement again
Speaker 2: and made his ass like shut hot, damn, like he
Speaker 2: was getting his ass handled.
Speaker 3: Bro. Yeah, he had a good opening line too, when
Speaker 3: he when he first.
Speaker 4: Draw now you're in my world or something like that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I will will prevail.
Speaker 2: And it didn't, and they're not going to address the
Speaker 2: because Rogue should have said something to him, professor, I
Speaker 2: heard what you said, bro, I had to save your ass.
Speaker 3: So and he went from standing in the back on
Speaker 3: the ground again.
Speaker 1: That's all he do.
Speaker 2: But I guess Apocalypse is saying kind of hitting that,
Speaker 2: like Nigga, you broken without Magneedle.
Speaker 1: He broken without your back. But that's not funny man
Speaker 1: say stuff like that. I did not say that.
Speaker 2: It's like like you need like you you're not even
Speaker 2: the same person without Magneedle being around.
Speaker 1: Did he start crying again? I think he did. He
Speaker 1: got he was he was shook.
Speaker 2: We didn't realize a Pocalypse was alive though, Yeah shook.
Speaker 1: But you should have known though. You should have known, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I should, you, out of all people, should have known
Speaker 1: or felt something. Oh he couldn't because he blocked it out.
Speaker 4: Remember like when when the cerebra thing, he was trying
Speaker 4: and it immediately He's like, oh, I think we're dealing
Speaker 4: with something that we've never dealt with before.
Speaker 1: So he couldn't see that it was true. But that
Speaker 1: could have been a hint exactly, It.
Speaker 4: Could be a hind But why But but you don't
Speaker 4: know what that is though, you still don't know that
Speaker 4: it's apocalypse.
Speaker 1: He's the leader.
Speaker 3: He should have at least went to a whiteboard and
Speaker 3: put you know.
Speaker 1: Something on Yeah, it could be somebody.
Speaker 2: You see that, this person, this person he told y'all
Speaker 2: his whole steeze during that fucking card game and he said,
Speaker 2: I must fold. That's all he does is fucking fold,
Speaker 2: especially in the Yeah, I wouldn't even go into the
Speaker 2: disability things. You fucked up. I ain't getting sucked up.
Speaker 2: But yes, he's folded up in that chair too. They
Speaker 2: listening to the audio. I ain't said nothing. They look
Speaker 2: at the video to his that was laughing. But he
Speaker 2: folds on every fight he gets his ass whoopd mm hmm. Well,
Speaker 2: but but if fit in that role with the person
Speaker 2: that saved him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean for the little love story and the
Speaker 6: thing that they were trying to do. I guess it's corny,
Speaker 6: like can't say earlier, okay.
Speaker 1: You didn't where you did it?
Speaker 2: Add to apocalypse, the story about him basically getting his
Speaker 2: heart broken and using Gambit in his way as far
Speaker 2: as the villain.
Speaker 6: When he was talking to the lady with the Dredds,
Speaker 6: Oh nah miss Yeah, that was.
Speaker 3: The part that I felt like we had a whole storyline.
Speaker 3: That was the whole storyline there that we didn't see.
Speaker 3: We missed him like yeah, and they just had to
Speaker 3: show us like one or two scenes. So what was
Speaker 3: a apocalypse plan? Just to get his woman back, get
Speaker 3: his power back through gambit as soon as all?
Speaker 1: When did he lose his power?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the end of his plan though,
Speaker 2: I just think I don't think it's the end of
Speaker 2: his plan. I just know his I think his intent
Speaker 2: was to get his power back. But when did he
Speaker 2: lose it? Yeah, because he gave her a piece of
Speaker 2: his power to external.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah he did.
Speaker 5: Oh so the whole.
Speaker 2: Plan was to get to turn gambit and then use
Speaker 2: Gambit to come to that woman.
Speaker 1: See we didn't see any of it. That's why I
Speaker 1: was because they just.
Speaker 2: They told us he was like basically, he fell in
Speaker 2: love with her and he gave her a piece of power,
Speaker 2: and she portrayed him by like basically like I don't
Speaker 2: want to be anig and ran away, and so he's
Speaker 2: basically using her to lure her out to get his
Speaker 2: power back.
Speaker 3: She was like, who the hell worked me up for
Speaker 3: my slumber or whatever? She said, it's probably sleeping good too.
Speaker 2: They gave her, He gave her a bit of his woman.
Speaker 2: So they did her just like Tiana Taylor in that
Speaker 2: one movie with Leonardo DiCaprio. They just made it seem
Speaker 2: like black ladies can't do ship right, stealing ship and
Speaker 2: run away. But remember Apocalypse took over her, people like
Speaker 2: because king left. Remember she was she was basically a
Speaker 2: discipher with the king, so like he was stupid for
Speaker 2: believing that she was gonna be with him anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean, again, they.
Speaker 2: Should have showed us all this and it probably would
Speaker 2: have been way more impactful instead of giving us a
Speaker 2: backstory of it. But yeah, that's that's when I rewatched it.
Speaker 2: I caught her all over. Oh it is, don't but
Speaker 2: you gotta really sit there and pick it up. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, other than that man Apocalypse shows up. You know,
Speaker 2: Roague saves him, and you know, Professor X tells the XO, we.
Speaker 1: Got a retreat, must fold.
Speaker 5: He told all the niggas on a group called niggas.
Speaker 5: Get out of it.
Speaker 2: God, he's sorry, fuck man, So we can't beat them?
Speaker 5: Man, No, I think we got a retreat now.
Speaker 1: It's such a look. You're no one to hold him
Speaker 1: and no one to fall.
Speaker 2: Well, he can't know when to walk away, and he's
Speaker 2: sure don't know when to run, so.
Speaker 3: Broad it full circle bank.
Speaker 2: Walk away though, But yeah, well we we the episode
Speaker 2: with him talking about getting Gambit is basically in a
Speaker 2: coma and Professor Xcess Apocalypse is still in there, but
Speaker 2: it won't be long before Apocalypse comes back out and
Speaker 2: takes them for good. And you know, Rogue is holding
Speaker 2: on the sugar. I did like when she said that.
Speaker 2: When she grabbed him, You're like, she's like, come home, sugar.
Speaker 5: Hey man, old country boy and me love that ship.
Speaker 5: Come home, shug.
Speaker 1: It was a moment.
Speaker 2: It was just after seeing Professor asket his ass whooped
Speaker 2: this is I think that's what goodest. I think that's
Speaker 2: your biggest gripe though he ain't doing ship, and I
Speaker 2: think that's I think that's the biggest.
Speaker 1: Thing for you right now.
Speaker 2: I know the Gambit shit probably ain't hitting for you,
Speaker 2: but him constantly, he's consistently getting his ass beat and
Speaker 2: so I can understand.
Speaker 1: That bothered you more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just wish, like I said that this
Speaker 2: this episode wasn't bad. It just wasn't great to me.
Speaker 2: I think if the threat of Gambit was higher than
Speaker 2: I think, I would have enjoyed it a lot more.
Speaker 2: Like I never really felt like, oh shit, they're in trouble.
Speaker 2: I never felt that, even Nightcrawler whooping him up, I
Speaker 2: still never felt like, oh the X Men are in
Speaker 2: serious trouble right now. Again, I think the biggest great,
Speaker 2: the biggest thing that takes away from this episode is
Speaker 2: that apocalypse because external is also she was in the
Speaker 2: original series. She's like a guy. She's like a did
Speaker 2: she have her own book? She eventually comes in a book,
Speaker 2: but she's like a celestial in a way, kind of
Speaker 2: like she's basically God's tear. So when he killed her,
Speaker 2: that's supposed to make you feel like Gambit is like
Speaker 2: he got some god like powers. But if you don't
Speaker 2: know that or remember that and they didn't give you that,
Speaker 2: she's probably not.
Speaker 1: I mean took her out real quick.
Speaker 4: It made it this big thing like she was gonna
Speaker 4: He's like, oh yeah, enough of that ship.
Speaker 1: He took time for that.
Speaker 3: I was like, that was a dope line, but not.
Speaker 3: If I would have known that, I probably would have
Speaker 3: appreciated it more. But it's also like, there's no way
Speaker 3: she's like Dad dead. But it doesn't even really matter
Speaker 3: because she's not that bigg that important to that.
Speaker 1: It's been nine seven series.
Speaker 2: But they should have used somebody else to make us
Speaker 2: feel like this was a major moment because we didn't.
Speaker 2: We didn't get to see external be anything interesting or
Speaker 2: be super powerful. All we know is she is asleep
Speaker 2: in a swamp and she controls.
Speaker 1: That's just the control shit.
Speaker 2: She gets called upon by some white thieves in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: We didn't get to see her be a bad motherfucker.
Speaker 2: If we saw that at least once, then maybe this
Speaker 2: moment would have hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do some research on why it's only nine
Speaker 2: episodes compared to me, compared to the ten.
Speaker 1: Because maybe they chopped the episode on the animation.
Speaker 2: They got cheap on animation or something and they didn't
Speaker 2: want to do it because it's probably your story. It's
Speaker 2: probably an episode that was supposed to be here to
Speaker 2: give us that. Yeah, and they cut it. That's how
Speaker 2: it feels.
Speaker 1: What I'm thinking about it is that's exactly how it
Speaker 1: does feel.
Speaker 4: Like they're trying to pack a lot into these Like
Speaker 4: I said, I always feel like that, but I usually
Speaker 4: end up giving a grace. Okay, maybe it's not that
Speaker 4: important in this whole thing because it just feels like
Speaker 4: it's a lot to.
Speaker 1: Cover, which I'm sure it is.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, so you're gonna have some gripes, yeah,
Speaker 4: because they're not going to be able to cover everything.
Speaker 2: But that one detail would have changed a lot. I
Speaker 2: didn't know that about External. That one detail would have
Speaker 2: made it be like, oh shit, Gambit killed External. All
Speaker 2: I saw, Oh Gambit killed the black chick from way
Speaker 2: back in the day that was hanging out with King,
Speaker 2: that got left and didn't really seem to know what
Speaker 2: the fuck to do.
Speaker 1: He killed her, That's all it felt like.
Speaker 2: If it felt like, oh, he just killed a god,
Speaker 2: then it would have been a lot more interesting.
Speaker 1: But it's still it's still a good show. I'm just
Speaker 1: not excited anymore, which sucks.
Speaker 2: Well, we got one episode left, and you know x
Speaker 2: X Force and X Factor teaming up.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, you like that.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting because I think Jubilee and sun
Speaker 3: Spot stayed behind, right, I.
Speaker 1: Don't remember they stayed went with the X Men.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so they didn't go with them, so which
Speaker 3: makes sense. I don't know how this is gonna work
Speaker 3: because he can't trust Val Cooper.
Speaker 1: Cooper is the head on.
Speaker 2: I don't think they trust. I don't think neither one
Speaker 2: of them trust each other. They're just gonna use each
Speaker 2: other to me.
Speaker 1: Saying, see how powers.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's her, it's her, mm hmmm hmm.
Speaker 2: They've been talking about Mystique a lot. That was another
Speaker 2: one that that I feel like they're building up, Like
Speaker 2: when we're giving Rogue and Night Crawling so much screen time,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, let's gonna be a mistake. And with
Speaker 2: that whole episode with the one before this with what's
Speaker 2: his name Creed? Yeah yeah, Mistique is his mother too,
Speaker 2: and they talked all this ship about Mystique, and Mystique
Speaker 2: hasn't shown up. I don't know nothing about this blond lady.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's in the books or not. Okay,
Speaker 2: but her showing up like this, I'm like, that don't
Speaker 2: make any sense.
Speaker 3: But you might be right though, that's a good that's
Speaker 3: some ship they'll do, so I can easily see them
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 1: She was because she was fully clothed.
Speaker 4: She wanted like in a business suit and then and
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, that's she had powers too, or
Speaker 4: yeah because she had the X Force suit.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but she's always like in the building. She's
Speaker 3: never on the missions, just telling.
Speaker 1: Them what to do. But that's why I thought this
Speaker 1: was different because all because she was actually on the
Speaker 1: streets with them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this feels like more of a threat than the
Speaker 2: Gambit shit X Force an X Factor teaming up to
Speaker 2: fight the X Men. That seems like a threat. That
Speaker 2: seems like, how are y'all gonna be able to take
Speaker 2: all of them? Because fight the X Men, I guess
Speaker 2: because they want they want Gambit taken out. So that's
Speaker 2: what cableing them want. They want to be able to
Speaker 2: kill Gambit Slash Apocalypse.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Because he's containing him right yes, God, you know Cable
Speaker 2: cables Destiny just killed.
Speaker 4: So how is he able to contain him right now?
Speaker 4: How is he able to overtake him right now?
Speaker 1: Who get over overtake Apocalypse from now? What happened in
Speaker 1: the power of love. Man, I think he's just suppressing him.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's overtake him. I get you. I
Speaker 1: figured something, something happened in that moment the road roll
Speaker 1: has that ambulant thing. That's what I need. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what's told you. His own power is suppressing him.
Speaker 2: Basically, some ship woman to do that to you, bron
Speaker 2: use your own ship to suppress your I mean when
Speaker 2: we were seeing it talking about I also realized Bishop
Speaker 2: and Polaris was in this episode.
Speaker 1: Neither someone that they didn't need them. We know what
Speaker 1: they are, we know what.
Speaker 2: They are, laying that ship down so that it gotta
Speaker 2: be bitch a fucking I don't care what nobody said.
Speaker 1: I don't care what nobody.
Speaker 4: Because she was like on top of them in that
Speaker 4: last episode like that rescue me from a plane again
Speaker 4: for real?
Speaker 1: He said, this is from Magnum girl. You know all right?
Speaker 2: Man, Well, we'll be back here next week, y'all. We'll
Speaker 2: see if the last episode can turn the fortunes for
Speaker 2: uh Ken and Mike and if Spike even give a
Speaker 2: fun't me and Roder be here? Hopefully they ended off
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