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Speaker 2: But overall, I guess on the scale of from zero

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Speaker 2: I think very importantly, you know, the whole relationship was very,

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Speaker 4: Very good, especially coming on the heels at the successful trip.

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Speaker 4: Were in Malaysia, signed a peace deal for Cambodia and Thailand, critical.

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Speaker 2: Many successful, so many meetings, great for our.

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Speaker 3: Country with literally hundreds of billions.

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Speaker 2: Trillions of dollars have come into our country over the

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Speaker 2: last four days represented by this meeting, but trillions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: You can say with clarity that this trip has been successful,

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Speaker 3: even if every deal doesn't come through. That was President

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Speaker 3: Trump on Air Force one me I'm Tony kas This

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Speaker 3: is Tony Kats today. I am in studio Force one.

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Speaker 3: That is not the name of the studio, but you

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Speaker 3: can name the studio. Sponsorship is now available. Honestly, if

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Speaker 3: Trump thought he could get Air Force one sponsored, don't

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Speaker 3: you worry. Don't you worry. We don't know about the

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Speaker 3: deals until the deals start bringing in dollars. And I

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Speaker 3: think it's okay to say that. It is to say

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Speaker 3: President Trump has sold us out. That was one of

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Speaker 5: Trump is a vindictive politician and a heartless.

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Speaker 3: Man, says the Democratic Party that impeached twice and engaged

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Speaker 3: four different investigations over nothing. The shutdown is a disaster

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Speaker 3: not in the slightest. The trip to Asia tells a story,

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Speaker 3: and the story is, look what I can do. And

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Speaker 3: Opportunities with Malaysia, opportunities with South Korea an actual dollar

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Speaker 3: the proper use of the language, Tony. Why wouldn't we

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Speaker 3: trade deal with South Korea and Malaysia's good for us? Now,

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Speaker 3: and so can you. Democrats won't allow such a thing.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes there are good stories, sometimes there are bad stories.

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Speaker 3: Truck hauling, COVID herpies, infected monkeys, overturns. Gum. Can't can't

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Speaker 3: because it's so wrong or something. Keep it here. This

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Speaker 10: Oh, a public service announcement for anyone who's thinking of

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Speaker 3: I know where you live.

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Speaker 6: And I've seen where you sleep.

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Speaker 10: This has been a public service announcement for anyone thinking

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Speaker 3: I just want to say, for the record, Marcelus Wallace

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Speaker 3: All those fears that connects. And there's this big conversation

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Speaker 3: about whether or not gen Z is becoming more religious.

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Speaker 3: And I think I hinted at this the other day,

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Speaker 3: discussed it a little bit, and I still put forth

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Speaker 3: to you that I don't know. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: gen z is actually becoming more religious. You can show

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Speaker 3: me a group of students on a college campus engaged

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Speaker 3: in prayer. I don't know if that means a trend

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Speaker 3: line that it is continual. Time might tell on that.

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Speaker 3: Nor do I know if that is specific to a

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Speaker 3: specific university university set, or if that can be seen

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Speaker 3: really nationwide. And I'm not saying no, I'm saying that

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Speaker 3: I don't have enough data to know this true. I

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Speaker 3: can tell you that people are attracted to strength, people

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Speaker 3: are thrilled to hear they can have a point of

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Speaker 3: view that's different and there's a place where they belong.

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Speaker 3: They can have a point of view that's different and

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Speaker 3: they can still belong. And what turning point through conversations

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Speaker 3: like this can offer regarding halftime show can make a

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Speaker 3: serious cultural impact if.

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Speaker 11: It really does. Because my husband never went with the flow.

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Speaker 11: He swam in the streams of signific cans and Charlie

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Speaker 11: News so deeply to his core that comfort doesn't change

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Speaker 11: the world, and you cannot influence the world when you

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Speaker 11: look like it. The enemy of truth doesn't need to destroy.

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Speaker 13: A nation overnight.

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Speaker 11: He just needs to convince people that truth no longer matters,

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Speaker 11: and the enemy thrives when Christians don't speak up.

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Speaker 3: I think the enemy thrives when people who aren't Christians

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Speaker 3: don't speak up to I don't know if I wholly

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Speaker 3: agree that you can't look like them, because you can,

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Speaker 3: but we might have just a difference there in definition.

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Speaker 3: But there's no doubt that they have an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: engage a real cultural moment, and if done right, one

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Speaker 3: has to wonder its effects. And I'm not quite sure

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Speaker 3: of the left nor in the NFL. Well, I'm not

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Speaker 3: quite sure they care. I'm not quite sure they're prepared

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Speaker 3: what happens if the effect is more people interested in

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Speaker 3: them than in football or in being afraid of progressive politics.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Kenttz.

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Speaker 7: You're right that the House has been out of session

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Speaker 7: this whole time. The debate, I guess, is in the

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Speaker 7: Senate because they have to approve any kind of bill

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Speaker 7: given the House past this clean cr And so we're

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Speaker 7: hearing from Majority Leader John Foon that there are some

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Speaker 7: bipartisan conversations ticking up.

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Speaker 3: He says significantly.

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Speaker 7: He thinks there's a possibility now that there's enough moderate

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Speaker 7: Democrat interest to change the situation.

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Speaker 3: Let's listen.

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Speaker 14: I think the leadership is their leadership at police I

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Speaker 14: think is kind of out of the question.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they just.

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Speaker 1: Don't have any room the new and well, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of branded file members.

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Speaker 13: They continue to I think we want to pursue.

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Speaker 8: Solutions and to be able to address the issues they

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Speaker 8: care about.

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Speaker 3: So that's the Centimajority leader John Thune talking about the

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Speaker 3: shutdown and saying, listen, the leadership refuses to do anything.

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Speaker 3: Members realize that this is nuts, and I think they

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Speaker 3: can come across and vote for the continuing Resolution and

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Speaker 3: we can get on with our lives. Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 3: Kats today, good to be with you. This is MSNBC,

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Speaker 3: and here is the anchor. She's asking one of the

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Speaker 3: members of Congress Democrat what he thinks.

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Speaker 7: Is that your sense that perhaps more Democrats are now

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Speaker 7: ready to vote with Republicans on that clean sear to

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Speaker 7: open the government.

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Speaker 14: Well, I don't believe that they're a scenario where Democrats

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Speaker 14: are going to cave and allow healthcare costs to skyrocket, and.

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Speaker 3: Nor should we take that position. I don't think.

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Speaker 14: People in the Republican Party unders stand that right now

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Speaker 14: people cannot afford their health insurance to double, they can't

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Speaker 14: afford the grocery prices to continue to skyrocket. And so

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Speaker 14: I think what Leader Food is trying to do is

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Speaker 14: create division with us.

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Speaker 3: We are united first, that's a Representative Garcia of California. Secondly,

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Speaker 3: you have egg prices that are down, you have gasoline

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Speaker 3: prices that are down. Certainly, you have meat prices that

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Speaker 3: are too high, and some other food prices that are

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Speaker 3: too high. But Obamacare subsidies. First of all, why do

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Speaker 3: you need subsidies? You have Obamacare. Secondly, you're the party

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Speaker 3: that agreed in the Inflation Reduction Act to let these

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Speaker 3: subsidies sunset in twenty twenty five. Why because you wanted

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Speaker 3: a political issue. That's a lie from Representative Garcia, flat

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Speaker 3: out lying there on MSNBC, which is not shocking at all,

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Speaker 3: But that's what he's doing. We should not cave. That's

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Speaker 3: the belief that Republicans will what get rid of the

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Speaker 3: filibuster and vote for this, So you now don't have

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Speaker 3: the filibuster, you can get control and then do anything

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Speaker 3: you want. That's some ugly rank politics. While people aren't

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Speaker 3: able to feed their kids isn't that the line you use?

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Speaker 3: By the way, this is all just tilting it windmills.

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Speaker 3: Democrats are losing this fight. This is Tony Cox today.

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Speaker 1: Line from Vall Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 3: This weirdness amongst the political left that when they do it,

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Speaker 3: it's fine, but when you do it, it's a sin.

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Speaker 3: This has been a standard for the progressive left for

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Speaker 3: a good long time. We've seen this, for example, in

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Speaker 3: the concept of culture wars. And they say something like,

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Speaker 3: for example, we're gonna do away with guest stoves. And

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Speaker 3: then people said, but we like gas stoves. Wait a second,

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Speaker 3: and then the left said, what are you talking about

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Speaker 3: gas stoves? We never said we're gonna do away with

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Speaker 3: gas stoves. Why are you so obsessed with us? Why

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Speaker 3: are you always about the culture wars? And then they

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Speaker 3: went about maneuvers to get rid of guest stoves and

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Speaker 3: guests hot water heaters and a host of things, and

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Speaker 3: gladly a lot of that has been thwarted. Tony Kats,

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats today, great to be with. You find everything

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Speaker 3: over at Tony Katz dot com. You should head over

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Speaker 3: there right now. Immediately, if not sooner. And so this concept,

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Speaker 3: this philosophy happens a lot. Uh, It's it's always been fascinating.

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Speaker 3: When you do it, it's a sin when they do it?

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Speaker 3: Why are you looking at them? You know? It's it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's not totally like mel Brooks when he said,

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Speaker 3: you know, the definition of the difference between comedy and tragedy.

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Speaker 3: Tragedy is when I cut my little finger. Comedy is

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Speaker 3: when you fall into an open sewer and die. It

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Speaker 3: isn't that, But it's this idea that when I do it,

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Speaker 3: it's fine, but when you do it, it's a sin.

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Speaker 3: When you do it as a sin when I do it,

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Speaker 3: why are you always staring at me? When you do it?

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Speaker 3: It's about you? When I do it, it's also about you.

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Speaker 3: This brings us to the story. You've seen a lot

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Speaker 3: of people talking about it today, where there's this Illinois Democrat.

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Speaker 3: There's always an Illinois Democrat at every moment, in every place,

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Speaker 3: there is always an Illinois Democrat. Hate Illinois Nazis, and

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Speaker 3: the Illinois Democrat. In this case, her name is Oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get her last name wrong, kat A Boogazela

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Speaker 3: am I pronouncing that right, Petisher Landon, do you even

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Speaker 3: know who this is? Twenty six year old self styled

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Speaker 3: gen Z influencer. Okay, now I'm gonna put this out there.

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Speaker 3: This whole influencer thing is out of control, ridiculous, It's nuts.

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Speaker 3: And some people, when I have this conversation, say, Tony,

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Speaker 3: who are you talking to You're an influencer? No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: this gig right here radio is a far different cry.

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Speaker 3: It's a far different thing. The idea that someone could

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Speaker 3: have influence, lots of things could have influence, but somebody

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Speaker 3: goes out there to be an influencer isn't subject to

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Speaker 3: the same basic standards that someone like myself is, never

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Speaker 3: mind having to deal with the FCC. How about the

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Speaker 3: idea that the influencer is never really concerned about Well,

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Speaker 3: here's how a situation develops, and here's my take on

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Speaker 3: it is only interested in whatever it is they can push.

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Speaker 3: There's no there's no standard at all. And if you

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Speaker 3: say to me, Tony, I think that's distinction without a difference,

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Speaker 3: I certainly don't. And I see influencers on the left

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Speaker 3: and I see influencers on the right, and the whole

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Speaker 3: thing is just ridiculous. I have never considered myself in

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Speaker 3: that vein this woman cat She has been charged in

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Speaker 3: a federal indictment sought by the Department of Justice. She

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Speaker 3: says it's an attack on her First Amendment rights. Now

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Speaker 3: I'm staring at the video right here. I am just

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Speaker 3: kind of afraid to play any audio from it, because

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Speaker 3: you know, the when you do it with these people,

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Speaker 3: who knows what it is that they're going to say.

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Speaker 3: But in this video, Ice is trying to move a vehicle,

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Speaker 3: and there she is standing in front of the vehicle,

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Speaker 3: stopping it from traveling. Though by the way, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of people with her, maybe a couple hundred trying

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Speaker 3: to maybe it's only one hundred, trying to get in

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Speaker 3: front of the vehicle. They're in the front of the vehicle.

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Speaker 3: And there she is, as clear as day, trying to

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Speaker 3: stop this vehicle from moving. That's what she's doing. So

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Speaker 3: she is impeding law enforcement. She is preventing Ice from

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Speaker 3: being able to move. So this was in Chicago. She

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Speaker 3: joined a mob swarming a law enforcement vehicle, blocking it

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Speaker 3: with their bodies before someone etched the word pig into

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Speaker 3: the vehicle. Others ripped off a mirror and Windshiell Wiper.

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Speaker 3: That's reporting from Fox News. That is this woman a

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Speaker 3: Bougazela abu gha z a l e h a Bougazala.

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Speaker 3: I'm not one hundreds in trial it's pronounced. I've never

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Speaker 3: heard it pronounce. She joined the crowd and the quote

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Speaker 3: at the front of the government vehicle and with her

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Speaker 3: hands on the hood, braced her body and hands against

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Speaker 3: the vehicle while remaining directly in the path of the vehicle,

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Speaker 3: hindering an impeding agent a in the vehicle from proceeding

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Speaker 3: to the staging area. That's what part of the indictment is.

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Speaker 3: She thinks this is an attack on her First Amendment rights.

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Speaker 3: How is blocking traffic a First Amendment right? I'm asking

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Speaker 3: I'd like an answer. How is it possible that blocking

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Speaker 3: traffic and creating a dangerous situation by doing so, engaging

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Speaker 3: in acts of violence or working with a crowd engaging

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Speaker 3: in acts of violence against the vehicle and the people,

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Speaker 3: meant to intimidate the people in it, ripping off for example,

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Speaker 3: the side ners. How is that a conversation about free speech?

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, it would be anything but

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Speaker 3: being opposed to ice. You can engage speech about that,

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Speaker 3: impeding law enforcement. You go to jail for that. What

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Speaker 3: possible argument could you have here? The answer is you

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Speaker 3: have none. But having an argument is not her interest.

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Speaker 3: Moving an ideology, being a trafficker ideology is her interest.

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Speaker 3: Builds herself as a radical progressive Democrat. No, do you really? I,

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Speaker 3: for one, I'm shocked. Her platform includes a wealth tax

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Speaker 3: on rich Americans, a twenty five dollars minimum wage, and

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Speaker 3: an immediate pathway to citizenship for Dreamers and other undocumented immigrants.

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Speaker 3: Her hobbies include nitt, playing video games, and destroying America.

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Speaker 3: And she is imposed. She did an interview with Jensaki

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Speaker 3: where she thinks Christy nom secret Chary of Homeland Security,

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Speaker 3: should be tried at the Hague. So first things first,

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Speaker 3: these people don't believe in America like we believe in America.

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Speaker 3: She is running for the ninth Congressional District of Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Jan Shikowski is retiring. Jenshikowski is eighty one. This is

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Speaker 3: what we as a nation are up against. Why should

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Speaker 3: she not be able to block traffic? Why should she

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Speaker 3: not be able to participate with a mob and intimidating

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Speaker 3: law enforcement? That's fine, Well, why is it fine because

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Speaker 3: what law enforcement is doing is bad, which is really

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Speaker 3: the argument of all those January sixers. Right, you have

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Speaker 3: people shooting at ice agents. That's being violent. That was

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Speaker 3: the argument about January six ers being violent. What's the

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Speaker 3: difference in their argument, Well, I think what they're doing

643
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Speaker 3: is bad. That's the same argument. I'll let them figure

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Speaker 3: that one out. By the way, I said of January

645
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Speaker 3: six ers many many times, if you were kept from

646
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Speaker 3: due process as an American citizen, your immediate released. It's over,

647
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: it's done. There were some people who committed acts of violence.

648
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 3: They have to deal with the consequences of that. People

649
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: who were invited into the Capitol did nothing wrong and

650
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: they never should have had a problem brought their way.

651
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Speaker 3: It was obscene what the j six Committee and others

652
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Speaker 3: did to these people. You're blocking traffic and you're trying

653
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Speaker 3: to intimidate law enforcement. You go to jail, and what

654
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: they say is, look what Republicans, Look what the right

655
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: Look at what those people did over there. Why are

656
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: you looking at me? Why are you always looking at me?

657
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: Why are you so obsessed with me? I think that

658
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: we should never be afraid to notice and to say

659
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Speaker 3: so Oh, do I have a concern about her winning? Sure?

660
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Speaker 3: I think everybody should. You know, this is the mom

661
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Speaker 3: Donnie conversation. These are Mom Donnie conversation in New York.

662
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Speaker 3: Is not that you or I give a good Holy

663
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Speaker 3: you know what about what happens in New York. It's

664
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Speaker 3: that it can come here to where you live in

665
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Speaker 3: the Midwest. It can come to Tulsa, Oklahoma. It can

666
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Speaker 3: come to Fort Wayne, Indiana. It can come to Saint Louis, Missouri.

667
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Speaker 3: It can come to Baton Rouge, Louisiana. It can come

668
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Speaker 3: to where I am at. It can come to Charlotte,

669
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Speaker 3: North Carolina. And I know not all those places where

670
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Speaker 3: the Midwest, but I consider them brethren. It spreads, and

671
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: if we are not noticing, and if we are cowed

672
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 3: by the idea that they say, why are you looking

673
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Speaker 3: at me, they get to move about unchallenged. We need

674
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Speaker 3: to challenge. I just think we need to challenge in

675
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Speaker 3: a very, very smart way. I think we need to

676
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Speaker 3: challenge in a more certainly uplifting way. I do not

677
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: believe the answer to the people who believe in no

678
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Speaker 3: borders is the idea of no immigration. I think that's

679
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Speaker 3: a mistake I think our argument should be for a

680
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Speaker 3: legal immigration and then be legal immigration of people who

681
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Speaker 3: actually want to be Americans. We don't allow single able

682
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Speaker 3: bodied men from China to enter the United States. We

683
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Speaker 3: just don't do it. We don't allow single able bodied

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Speaker 3: men from Muslim nations. We don't do it. That's biggot

685
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Speaker 3: in woe, whoa, whoa, whoa, woe, woe and whoe. With

686
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: all due respect, Islam needs a reformation and we need

687
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: to be absolutely aware of what is the islamis threat

688
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: around the globe. We have to pay attention to it.

689
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: They're saying, how dare you? And what I'm saying is

690
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: we must dare. There's a real problem, whether we're talking

691
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Speaker 3: about in God's ord, they're talking about in Africa with

692
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Speaker 3: bug Aham, there's an issue. We're going to pretend that

693
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Speaker 3: there's not. How foolhardy, so tony, you mean only white

694
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Speaker 3: people can enter the United States. I never said such

695
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Speaker 3: a thing, And I don't even believe that. We have

696
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Speaker 3: a lot of people from Central and Southern America who

697
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Speaker 3: I think would make great Americans. We have a lot

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Speaker 3: of people from African nations, not just africaners in South

699
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Speaker 3: Africa who would make great Americans, although we should be

700
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Speaker 3: clear that Afrikaaners are being attacked for being white. Well

701
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Speaker 3: Tony was apartheid. What do you expect. I expect that

702
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Speaker 3: the people who are running Johannesburg don't want to kill

703
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Speaker 3: the boar. That's what I expect. I mean, if we're

704
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Speaker 3: asking what I actually think in this world, I don't

705
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Speaker 3: think you should say, well, now that apartheid is over,

706
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Speaker 3: kill all the white people. I don't think people should

707
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Speaker 3: be reminiscing about Garrett Morris singing I'm gonna get me

708
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Speaker 3: a shotgun and kill all the whities I see and say,

709
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Speaker 3: you know what, that makes good policy. That's old school

710
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: Saturday Night Live people. You might want to take a

711
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 3: look at that. That is this is a funny moment.

712
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Speaker 3: We're not going to notice. We should need to notice.

713
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Speaker 3: There are people who want to be Americans, and then

714
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Speaker 3: there are people who post to the American way of life.

715
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Speaker 3: And the people who post to the American way of

716
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Speaker 3: life have no place here. You're not welcome. And absolutely

717
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Speaker 3: one of the things the administration has done that I

718
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Speaker 3: wholeheartedly agree with is that the people who come into

719
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Speaker 3: the country from other countries and then protest against the country.

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Speaker 3: You gotta go. Free speech is not yours because you

721
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Speaker 3: are not engaged in free speech. You are engaged in

722
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Speaker 3: the usurpation as somebody who is not an American citizen.

723
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Speaker 3: I got enough crap I gotta deal with with Americans

724
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Speaker 3: citizens too dumb to know their own name or tie

725
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Speaker 3: their own shoes. I think they can block traffic, block

726
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Speaker 3: law enforcement from doing their job, and then say, how

727
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Speaker 3: dare you question me when someone says, yeah, that's against

728
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Speaker 3: the law. I think it's okay that we have a standard,

729
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Speaker 3: and I think it's okay if our standard is exacting.

730
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Speaker 3: And I think give us your tire, you're poor, your

731
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Speaker 3: huddled masses learning to breathe, free the poem the new colossus,

732
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Speaker 3: which is at the bottom, they're the foot of the

733
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Speaker 3: statue of liberty. I don't think that precludes the idea

734
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Speaker 3: of us saying, oh, you actually have to want to

735
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Speaker 3: be here and not want to destroy here, because I

736
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Speaker 3: got enough people already in the United States who want

737
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Speaker 3: to destroy and I don't need any more. And we're

738
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Speaker 3: allowed to say no, thank you, and we should and

739
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Speaker 3: we should notice, we should say so. But you do

740
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Speaker 3: this and you don't think you should be charged. I

741
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Speaker 3: hope we go to jail because the the rest of

742
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Speaker 3: us would go to jail. I'm Tony Katz, and this

743
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Speaker 3: is Tony Katz. Today. Add Billie Eilish, the singer, to

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Speaker 3: the list of people who are just engaged in nonsense.

745
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Speaker 3: It's embarrassing. She's at some award thing, She's gotten an award,

746
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Speaker 3: and she's got a message for the billionaires out there.

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Speaker 6: I love you all, but there's few people in here

748
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Speaker 6: that have a lot more money than me. And if

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Speaker 6: you're a billionaire, why are you a billionaire? No hate,

750
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Speaker 6: but yeah, give your money away. Shorty's love you guys,

751
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Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

752
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Speaker 3: I do I just call you a child? Or do

753
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: I call you stupid? Do I say what don't you understand?

754
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Speaker 3: Do I say, how do you come to that place?

755
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Speaker 3: Because I don't believe that you have thought it through

756
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Speaker 3: it all? If the argument is, Billie Eilish, why are

757
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Speaker 3: you a billionaire? What if the answer is because my

758
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: intellectual property has earned me a billion dollars, what's the

759
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Speaker 3: problem Your intellectual property from all the songs that you've

760
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Speaker 3: written there with Phineas will eventually get you a billion dollars.

761
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 3: Is it not yours? Now? If you choose to give

762
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Speaker 3: it away, you can. It's your money. But you asked

763
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: a different question, Why are there billionaires? Why are you billionaires?

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Speaker 3: This is what you asked. Why are you a billionaire?

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Speaker 3: What if the answer is because I earned it? What

766
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Speaker 3: if the answer is because my daddy left it to

767
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Speaker 3: me and screw you? I don't know what the answer

768
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Speaker 3: could be, BILLI, but there could be a lot of

769
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Speaker 3: different answers here. And then you say to the people,

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Speaker 3: if you're a billionaire, no hate, no eighte give your

771
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Speaker 3: money away. What about millionaires? No? Not somebody with only

772
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Speaker 3: thirty three million dollars, someone with three hundred and thirty

773
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Speaker 3: three million dollars? What about them? When you say billionaires,

774
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Speaker 3: you mean the rich, don't you? When you say billionaires,

775
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Speaker 3: Billy eilish? Have you ever asked if you are engaged

776
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Speaker 3: in the conversation of Carlo Carl Marx about the proletariat

777
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Speaker 3: and the bourgeoisie, well a conversations about the haves and

778
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Speaker 3: have nots, as Barack Obama phrased it, the ninety nine

779
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Speaker 3: percent in the one percent, it's the same exact conversation.

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Speaker 3: Is this what you're supporting, because if this is what

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Speaker 3: you are supporting, Billie Eilish, then I want to discuss

782
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Speaker 3: the very concepts of copyright. Why do you own your music?

783
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Speaker 3: Billionaires have to give their money away. I want you

784
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: to give your intellectual property away. I want you to

785
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 3: give up your right to the music. And if we're

786
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Speaker 3: going to talk about billionaires, what do you think about

787
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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift and so hard to re record her masters

788
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Speaker 3: so she owns her music again. I mean, if you're

789
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Speaker 3: going to come out with such bravery, Billy Eilich, I

790
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: want you to come out with bravery, and I want

791
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Speaker 3: to see how you handle the Swifties or is it possible? Billy?

792
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: And I believe that this is the case. You never

793
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: thought about it. You never once had a detailed conversation

794
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: with anybody who wasn't a friend who said, oh absolutely,

795
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Speaker 3: Oh those billionaires, Oh they're terrible. Hey, can I borrow

796
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Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars? I promise I'll pay back this time.

797
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Speaker 3: I got to assume that's happened to Billy more than

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Speaker 3: once in her life. I got assume that's happened to

799
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Speaker 3: everybody who has money more than once in their life. No,

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Speaker 3: for other people, it happens on a lower scale. Hey,

801
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Speaker 3: can you spot me for the pizza this time? I

802
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: promise pay you back? Right, same math, same concept, different math.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe, Billy, you've ever had this conversation with

804
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Speaker 3: anybody of a thinking metal ever. You just feel that

805
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 3: because all of your fans are gonna say, yeah, therefore

806
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 3: you're right. That doesn't make someone right. Fighting it out,

807
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: debating it, engaging it, getting perspectives, getting thoughts, being able

808
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: to sharpen your message that that's good. You're not sharpening

809
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: a message here. You're like, I'm gonna win this award

810
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna be driven off in a limo, and

811
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Speaker 3: I'm wearing a jacket that probably costs seven hundred and

812
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Speaker 3: fifty dollars. Seven hundred and fifty dollars, by the way,

813
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: is the grand sum total of most people's entire wardrobe.

814
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna lecture and people are gonna say, oh, I'm

815
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: so brave. It's not bravery. It's a childlike pablom. It's insulting,

816
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: root and gross. And when they're done with the billionaires,

817
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: they'll come for the millionaires. You know that, right, Billy,

818
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: You're coming for you next day, so the Fed they

819
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Speaker 3: cut the rate by a quarter point, and everyone said hooray.

820
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Speaker 3: Most everybody said hoorray, because when you take a look

821
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Speaker 3: at the vote count there of these Federal Reserve officers,

822
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: one person said it should be a half point. Another

823
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: person said, don't cut it in the slightest. But it

824
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Speaker 3: seems clear to me that Jerome Powell is well, here

825
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Speaker 3: you go, market, here's exactly what you wanted. Here are

826
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Speaker 3: the lower rates you dreamed of. But is this good

827
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Speaker 3: for us? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

828
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Speaker 3: with you. We've got doctor Mattwell joining US economists at

829
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Speaker 3: the University of Indianapolis. Now there's a host of things

830
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Speaker 3: to cover on this rate cut, and this happening as

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Speaker 3: President Trump is taking this tour in Asia, which I

832
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Speaker 3: would argue has been a successful tour, not only on

833
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Speaker 3: a diplomacy but on a deal side, at least a

834
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Speaker 3: framework side. Right until we have a deal that actually

835
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Speaker 3: brings dollars in, there's nothing but South Korea is saying

836
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Speaker 3: they're going to put in three hundred and fifty billion

837
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Speaker 3: dollars further the relationship with Japan to try and thwart

838
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Speaker 3: the hegemonic desires of China, and then the meeting was Jijinping,

839
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Speaker 3: which took place in South Korea. So before we get

840
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Speaker 3: to the rate cut, talk to me about how this

841
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Speaker 3: trip and these conversations coming out of this Asia trip

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Speaker 3: are seen by financial economists like yourself.

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Speaker 15: We see it as fantastic because the uncertainty is being removed.

844
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Speaker 15: The biggest problem that we've had with the tariffs is

845
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Speaker 15: well the second biggest. The biggest is they're tariffs. They stink,

846
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Speaker 15: But the second biggest problem has been the uncertainty. And

847
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 15: the Wall Street hates uncertainty. Business hates uncertainty. They want

848
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Speaker 15: to know what to do. You can't plan for the

849
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Speaker 15: future until you know what's going to happen. And so

850
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Speaker 15: the fact that these frameworks are in place and deals

851
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Speaker 15: are getting cut, even though they may not be good

852
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Speaker 15: deals for the consumer or for businesses, the deals are

853
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Speaker 15: cut and everybody likes it. And what I got to

854
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Speaker 15: tell you Trump actually he pulled one off on this

855
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Speaker 15: because I was hearing this morning read some information about

856
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Speaker 15: the fact that China now wants to participate in the

857
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Speaker 15: new LNG process pipeline from Alaska. They want to invest

858
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Speaker 15: in a pipeline that's going to feed LNG to Japan

859
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Speaker 15: and South Korea. This is a win no matter how

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Speaker 15: you slice it. For Trump going out to the East.

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Speaker 3: Now, I have to tell you I don't favor at all,

862
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Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form, allowing China to have

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Speaker 3: any energy from the United States. I think that is

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Speaker 3: an opportunity for massive failure. I've also disagreed with President

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Speaker 3: Trump when it's a conversation of allowing Chinese nationals to

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Speaker 3: come into the country to be students, the student visa conversation.

867
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Speaker 3: But we'll get to those things later. You see this

868
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Speaker 3: trip as a success. In the middle of this trip

869
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Speaker 3: comes Jerome Powell and comes the rate cut of a

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Speaker 3: quarter point. Was this the right move? No, it was

871
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Speaker 3: the wrong move.

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Speaker 15: Well, unless it was combined with a reducing of the

873
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Speaker 15: balance sheet. The headline, tony is rate cut quarter point.

874
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Speaker 15: That's the rate That's the headline. But there's three things

875
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Speaker 15: that happened here, and I think all three of them

876
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Speaker 15: are bad. One was the rate cut by itself. That's

877
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Speaker 15: not a good thing. The second thing they did is

878
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Speaker 15: they decided to stop reducing the balance sheet as of December. First,

879
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Speaker 15: they will officially reverse quantitative tightening and go back to

880
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Speaker 15: what they call neutral, but I believe is more quantitative easy.

881
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 15: If you're not reducing the balance sheet, that's a bad thing.

882
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 15: That will pump cash into the economy. And the third

883
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Speaker 15: thing they announced is they're going to replace long term

884
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Speaker 15: investments on the FED balance sheet with short term investments

885
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Speaker 15: on the FED balance sheet. That's also a bad thing

886
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 15: because that's going to drive up bond prices and it's

887
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Speaker 15: going to pump cash into the economy by reducing short

888
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Speaker 15: term rates.

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Speaker 3: Again, hold on, I want to make sure I understood,

890
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Speaker 3: because when I first heard this story, I thought you

891
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Speaker 3: were going to be excited. That looked they're removing things

892
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Speaker 3: from the balance sheet. That's how I heard the story.

893
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Speaker 3: They're removing things from the balance sheet. And this is

894
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Speaker 3: incredibly important. You're saying no, no, no, they're not removing,

895
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Speaker 3: they're replacing.

896
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Speaker 15: They're doing two things. They're stopping the reduction of the

897
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Speaker 15: balance sheet. They actually took a vote and as of

898
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Speaker 15: December first, they will discontinue reducing their balance sheet. And

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Speaker 15: we've talked about the quantitative easing that was a disaster,

900
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Speaker 15: that cause the inflation. Quantitative tightening, which is reducing their

901
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Speaker 15: balance sheet Holdings is supposed to reverse that. They voted

902
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Speaker 15: to discontinue that. That was an official announcement made yesterday.

903
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Speaker 15: And then they decided to go from long term investments

904
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Speaker 15: on their balance sheet to short term that's high risk.

905
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Speaker 15: That's going to increase cash into the economy. All three

906
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Speaker 15: things will fuel inflation. They have given up on fighting inflation,

907
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Speaker 15: that's clear, and they're shifting out to this dual mandate

908
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Speaker 15: of creating jobs. And I don't think that's their job.

909
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Speaker 15: I don't think they're even capable of doing it. But

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Speaker 15: that's what they're focusing on, and they're going to kill

911
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Speaker 15: us with inflation.

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Speaker 3: Talking to doctor Matt Well, economists at the University of Indianapolis, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the the inflation thing has not gone away. You know,

914
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Speaker 3: we can talk about tarris all all we want, and

915
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Speaker 3: you know, I've got a whole thought on this, you know,

916
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Speaker 3: increasing the tariffs on Canada because they put out a

917
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Speaker 3: stupid video. You can't. Taris are not a retribution for

918
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 3: not liking my outfit, right, It's just it's not the

919
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 3: way I think we should be going about things. But

920
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Speaker 3: the the inflation conversation is whether or not this has

921
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 3: gone away, you know, and I'm not angry at President

922
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Speaker 3: Trump for not having inflation taken care of. There was

923
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Speaker 3: a lot of cash in the system, but inflation is

924
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Speaker 3: still here. You often argue that the business community already

925
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Speaker 3: has it factored in. Are they still factoring it in?

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Speaker 15: I'm not sure you mean by factoring in, But let

927
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Speaker 15: me give you an example from just yesterday.

928
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Speaker 3: And in reprising. Bake it into methodologies, bake it into

929
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Speaker 3: future expansion, growth, reduction of workforce, et cetera.

930
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Speaker 15: Then the answer is they have included it, but not completely,

931
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 15: not completely. Just yesterday, I gave a speech to a group,

932
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Speaker 15: and this group there was a business owner and she's

933
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Speaker 15: told me that she has paid more than twenty percent

934
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Speaker 15: increase since April for stuff she imports. She imports a

935
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Speaker 15: lot of stuff from Canada and the European Union, and

936
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Speaker 15: she said twenty percent more. But she has not passed

937
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Speaker 15: that cost along. She's taken the financial hit. So the

938
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Speaker 15: inflation has not disappeared. We saw it in the PMI

939
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Speaker 15: report last month. We saw that again, that number was

940
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Speaker 15: twenty one percent inflation to wholesalers and manufacturers that have

941
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Speaker 15: not been passed along to you and I. There is

942
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Speaker 15: inflation in the system, and it's hitting businesses very hard. Now,

943
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Speaker 15: how are they reacting. They're laying people off, they're getting

944
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Speaker 15: rid of employees. Ups a que forty eight thousand employees

945
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Speaker 15: laid off, thirty four thousand were in operations, fourteen thousand

946
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Speaker 15: were in management. We've seen this at Amazon, Microsoft. It's ridiculous.

947
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Speaker 15: Yet the market's going up because of AI. Let's not

948
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Speaker 15: forget it.

949
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Speaker 3: And the only reason the market's going up is because

950
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Speaker 3: of AI. The Amazon conversation, so I saw written two ways.

951
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Speaker 3: Maybe you actually have the better analysis here. The Wall

952
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Speaker 3: Street Journal said it was thirty thousand corporate jobs. In

953
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Speaker 3: other places, I saw fourteen thousand, So I didn't know.

954
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Speaker 3: Fourteen thousand was like a step by step kind of thing.

955
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Speaker 3: It was like how they were going to step up

956
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Speaker 3: to thirty thousand, whether the thirty thousand number was right

957
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Speaker 3: or wrong.

958
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Speaker 15: What say you, thirty thousand is a combination of operations. Well,

959
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 15: they're mostly an operations entity, but they do both operations

960
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Speaker 15: and management.

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Speaker 3: It's both.

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Speaker 15: Just like we saw with UPS, about two thirds of

963
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Speaker 15: it was operations, one third of it was management. Amazon's

964
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Speaker 15: about the same, probably about two thirds operations one third management.

965
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Speaker 15: But They're not cutting necessarily because their business is getting worse.

966
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Speaker 15: The economy's growing at three point eight percent. They're cutting

967
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 15: because they don't need the workers, because they're automating. They're

968
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Speaker 15: using AI to improve their operations. You know, I got

969
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 15: to talk about it. You know, if you want me

970
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Speaker 15: to not get into it, I won't. But Meta yesterday

971
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Speaker 15: announced a twenty six percent increase in revenue. At the

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Speaker 15: same time they announced seventy billion dollars of CAPEX expenditures.

973
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Speaker 15: Microsoft did the same thing. Microsoft. Let me focus on

974
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Speaker 15: Microsoft here. Their quarterly revenue was up seventeen percent. That's

975
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 15: a pretty big increase. At the same time, they announced

976
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 15: eighty billion dollars of capital expenditures on AI, and they

977
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 15: laid off and announced nine thousand people being laid off.

978
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Speaker 15: They laid off six thousand earlier this year. So Microsoft

979
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Speaker 15: revenue up, AI spending up, firing employees. I think that's

980
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 15: the great transition. That is my buzzphrase. I want to

981
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 15: coin the great transition like we saw way back when

982
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 15: Henry Ford developed the mass production line for cars. We're

983
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 15: in a great transition. Hold on, it's going to be

984
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 15: a roller coaster, but the transition.

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Speaker 3: Talking to doctor Matt Will economists at the University of Indianapolis.

986
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 3: The transition is to not even so much the proof

987
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: of the utilization of AI, but rather the investment in

988
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: the hope that AI will be able to be something

989
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: that we use. So what transition are you referring to

990
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: when you.

991
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 15: Say the words, I don't agree with the statement that

992
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 15: the hope Because Meta reported a twenty six percent year

993
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 15: over year increase in revenue. Microsoft reported seventeen percent quarterly

994
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 15: revenue increase. This is not the future. This is revenue

995
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 15: generation now, and that's why the market's going up. We

996
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 15: are actually seeing the actual revenue benefit from these AI investments,

997
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 15: but it comes at a big cost, which is we

998
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 15: are losing employees. This to the first two quarters of

999
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 15: this year, the USA lost seven hundred and forty four

1000
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 15: thousand jobs, but the tech sector grew seventy six thousand jobs.

1001
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 15: That's a twenty seven percent increase for the tech sector.

1002
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 15: It's a transition from labor, even in management.

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Speaker 3: To AI.

1004
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 15: So you need to learn AI. You need to learn.

1005
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: Tech because that's going to be the next job. Guess what.

1006
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 15: Horse and buggies aren't here people putting shoes on horses

1007
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 15: are gone. We replaced it with cars. It's happening again.

1008
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: And there's going to now be because if people are

1009
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Speaker 3: now just seeing it for the first time. Of course,

1010
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: people who engage in the in the futurist game have

1011
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: been having this discussion. How do you protect American jobs? Then?

1012
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: Should you be tecting American jobs? And is it the

1013
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 3: job of government to protect American jobs? And if someone

1014
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: asked Donald Trump a ten percent tariff because you don't

1015
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Speaker 3: like how Canada put out a video for job protection?

1016
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Speaker 3: Is job won me? Remember I'm a conservative and in

1017
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Speaker 3: President Trump is not. It's a difference between us. It's

1018
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 3: not an anger. He wants to protect those jobs. Vice

1019
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: President jad Vance has been very very clear on these subjects.

1020
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Speaker 3: So how does the White House now engage a stock

1021
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: market that they want to go up, but is therefore

1022
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: hurting them overall? Because look at the Americans who don't

1023
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: have jobs anymore.

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Speaker 15: Okay, well you asked a lot there, but your first

1025
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Speaker 15: question was how do you protect jobs? Let me tell

1026
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 15: you the way. You don't do it. You don't do

1027
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 15: it through tariffs. You don't protect bad companies like Intel.

1028
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 15: You don't protect bad companies like Whirlpool. You let the

1029
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 15: competition eat them alive, and then whoever replaces them will

1030
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Speaker 15: be better. Remember, Intel is not the only semiconductor company

1031
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 15: in the United States. Six of the seven top ones

1032
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Speaker 15: are in the United States. Other than Taiwan's Semiconductor.

1033
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Speaker 3: They're all right here. So it's okay.

1034
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Speaker 15: If Intel disappears and they're replaced by Nvidia or AMD

1035
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Speaker 15: or Micron or Broadcom. Good for those companies. Now, the

1036
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Speaker 15: second part of the answer is where do the new

1037
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Speaker 15: jobs come from. I know this is hard for people

1038
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 15: to accept, but you have to get rid of the

1039
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Speaker 15: old jobs that are lower skill and replace them with

1040
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Speaker 15: the tech job. The AI those jobs are existing, they're

1041
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Speaker 15: growing again. I'll use the example I use all the time.

1042
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Speaker 15: We had this discussion in the nineteen hundreds when the

1043
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Speaker 15: car came around and people say, oh, we can't lose

1044
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Speaker 15: all these jobs in the transportation and horse and buggy industry.

1045
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Speaker 3: That's not a joke, that's actually what was said.

1046
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Speaker 15: And then that new industry exploded and it has been

1047
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Speaker 15: the biggest employer we've seen in the last hundred years.

1048
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Speaker 15: Tech will be the same. Now it's difficult, Tony, this

1049
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Speaker 15: is difficult. We're going to need to retrain people. Now

1050
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Speaker 15: that's a different discussion. Does a government do it? Do

1051
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Speaker 15: to charities do it? Is a local community function, But

1052
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Speaker 15: we need to help transition workers from old skills to

1053
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Speaker 15: new skills.

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Speaker 3: It's vital. Talking to doctor Matt Will economists at the

1055
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Speaker 3: University of indianapolish any slowing on this AI train. Anybody saying,

1056
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Speaker 3: maybe we've invested enough. Now let's see further results. You share,

1057
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Speaker 3: you share the results from Microsoft, and and and Amazon.

1058
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Speaker 3: Show me three quarters of that and then you'll see

1059
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Speaker 3: me actually say, Okay, maybe there really is something here.

1060
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Speaker 3: But is there anybody saying or any feeling in the

1061
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Speaker 3: market that it's you know what, We've invested a lot

1062
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Speaker 3: of money here. Let's see what this money created.

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Speaker 15: Yes, I've heard this, and you know, am I allowed

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Speaker 15: to mention a TV network.

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Speaker 3: That does business?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Of course?

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Speaker 15: Okay, So CNBC, I can't believe you mentioned them. Oh

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Speaker 15: I saw that coming CNBC. I've seen this over the

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Speaker 15: last week, people who went on TV saying I was

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Speaker 15: against this, wait and see the results.

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Speaker 3: I was wrong.

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Speaker 15: I can't tell you how many people I've seen say

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Speaker 15: exactly the words you just repeated, and then come out

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Speaker 15: and say, guess what I was wrong. It's legit. The

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Speaker 15: growth in AI is more, the capex is more than

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Speaker 15: we ever anticipated. The results Meta, Microsoft, Amazon, We're seeing

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Speaker 15: the results, so it's legitimate.

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Speaker 3: It's there.

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Speaker 15: People are skeptical, but the skeptics are coming around because

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Speaker 15: the proof is in the pudding, and it's there. The

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Speaker 15: skeptics are coming around.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Matt Will, economists at the University of Indianapolis. I

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Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time to be with us more

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Speaker 3: to get to you. I'm Tony Katz and this is

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz today. In the most non surprising story ever,

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Speaker 3: the former conservative Bill Crystal, who was broken by Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump and has lost his ever loving mind. I guess

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Speaker 3: the days of cruises are over, has decided that he

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Speaker 3: would vote and will vote for zorn Mum Donnie in

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Speaker 3: New York. We're done and scene as the kids would say,

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. And then there was a

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Speaker 3: photo someone actually asked me about it, where Mandy Patinkin,

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Speaker 3: who is Jewish, as voting for Mom Donnie. And then

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Speaker 3: there's this these rabbis supporting Mom Donnie. And listen to

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Speaker 3: me very carefully. You can't get me to make sense

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Speaker 3: of it from a religious perspective. Just because I'm Jewish

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean I can make sense of these people. You know,

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Speaker 3: this goes to the age old question wire Jews liberals,

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Speaker 3: which is a really deep theory. I do know that

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Speaker 3: when you hate Trump more than you love yourself, bad

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Speaker 3: things will happen. You can still not like Trump and

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Speaker 3: not vote for the Communist, but not New York. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna watch it happen. Bad things are ahead, and the

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Speaker 3: problem is it can come to a city near you.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony kat Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: Good morning everyone.

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Speaker 8: We are now beginning day thirty of the Democrats shutdown,

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Speaker 8: and as there are millions of Americans this morning that

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Speaker 8: are embracing themselves for further pain and hardship. Will highlight

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Speaker 8: some of that this morning. The Democrats incredibly are showing

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Speaker 8: no signs at all that they want to end their shutdown.

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Speaker 3: And that's true. Nothing says that Democrats are looking for

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Speaker 3: the exits, which is a weird story in and of itself.

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats, Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but

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Speaker 3: this is going on part of what's happening in America.

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Speaker 3: And as we've discussed now that people aren't getting paid,

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Speaker 3: money is not flowing to a whole bunch of benefits.

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Speaker 3: You're now going to hear these things get ramped up.

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Speaker 3: What I cannot find for the Democratic Party is the

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Speaker 3: off ramp Somewhere. There is a belief, there is a theory,

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Speaker 3: there is a philosophy that Republicans will blank and extend

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Speaker 3: Obamacare subsidies, that they can get trumped to do this.

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Speaker 3: It'll be unpopular. The numbers already show that Republicans are

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Speaker 3: fined and independents are with the Republicans on this. It's

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Speaker 3: Democrats who are keeping things shut down. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know where the off ramp is. It's a weird moment.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're all political observers here, right. I do

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Speaker 3: this for a living. You're a part of what we

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Speaker 3: do every day. But you've got jobs, life, family, right,

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Speaker 3: and you do things in your spare time. So let's

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Speaker 3: say you're as much of an observer as I am,

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Speaker 3: or you're somewhere on the spectrum. Usually people engage politically

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Speaker 3: to a political end. What's the end here? The end

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Speaker 3: is they vote for the continuing Resolution and then we're

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Speaker 3: back by the way November twenty first. But that's not

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Speaker 3: an end that works for Schumer and co. What did

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Speaker 3: you actually stand up to? What exactly did you bring

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Speaker 3: attention to? What exactly did you fight for? What exactly

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01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 3: did you get? What exactly did you win? What concession

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Speaker 3: is achieved? Or may I say it this way, what

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Speaker 3: concession can you claim is achieved? I don't know what

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Speaker 3: it is. I do this every day, so do you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. What is it that

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Speaker 3: they can turn to their base and say we did it,

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Speaker 3: We showed them. I don't know where the out is

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Speaker 3: and that could very well be the answer. They don't

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Speaker 3: know what the out is either, so they don't do anything.

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Speaker 3: Now this gets even stranger because I had Congressman Marlon

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Speaker 3: Stutsman on my morning show. He represents the third district

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Speaker 3: in Indiana, and he said something that blew my mind

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Speaker 3: on the idea of when does this end?

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Speaker 4: And then also the Virginia and New Jersey elections are

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Speaker 4: going to be done next Tuesday, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: what the Democrats have been holding out for because they're

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Speaker 4: just they just do not like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: They can't stand. I'm going to interrupt you talking to

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Speaker 3: Congress and Marlin Stutsman of the Indiana third District. I

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Speaker 3: heard they were they were holding out for the No

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Speaker 3: King's Rally. Now. The reason that they're going to extend

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Speaker 3: this into next week because you've got the Virginia governor race,

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Speaker 3: the Democrat Abigail Stanberger against the incumbent lieutenant governor win

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Speaker 3: some earl sears. You've got that that governor's race in

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Speaker 3: New Jersey where you've got Jacksonarelli, the Republican, gaining serious

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Speaker 3: ground on the congress woman Democrat Mickey Cheryl. They're going

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Speaker 3: to hold on so they can get the opportunities. And

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Speaker 3: there's a connection between that and these these statewide races.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I mean they're looking for anything.

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Speaker 3: You know. I described it like you know at.

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Speaker 4: The basketball game that the GOP has huge minim. Democrats

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Speaker 4: are basically calling a time out. They want to stop

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Speaker 4: President Trump because he's scoring, and they want to the

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Speaker 4: only way they can do anything to slow it down

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Speaker 4: is shut the government down. And they've even said it.

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Speaker 4: I mean the Democrat leadership in both the House and

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Speaker 4: the Senate has said, you know, this is their moment

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Speaker 4: of leverage and that they're going there's going to be

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Speaker 4: some pain for their constituents on these snap programs.

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Speaker 3: You know, people are going to have to go without.

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Speaker 4: Food stamps for some time because this is the moment

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Speaker 4: they have leverage, and that they're not going to be

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Speaker 4: able to get this opportunity probably again for some time

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Speaker 4: in Congress.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about that, Tony.

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Speaker 4: We're going to say, hey, you know what, sorry, folks,

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Speaker 4: you're not going to get your food stamps today because

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Speaker 4: we need the leverage in Congress to stop President Trump

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Speaker 4: from what's cutting taxes, cutting spending, growing the economy, world peace,

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Speaker 4: I mean, name it, but that's arrangement syndrome right there.

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Speaker 3: So that's a nuts thought that they're going to keep

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Speaker 3: this going because they think that staying shut down is

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Speaker 3: going to help them in Virginia and in New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying that they can't win in both places.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of lefties in both places. I'm saying

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Speaker 3: that if you think this is going to help you,

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Speaker 3: when it's clearly been shown that it's not connecting with Americans.

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Speaker 3: That's just beyond desperation. I don't even know if desperation

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Speaker 3: is the right word. That's just like a that's the craziest,

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Speaker 3: weirdest hail Mary I may have ever heard of. And

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Speaker 3: as always, you know, my father arrest his soul used

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Speaker 3: to say, you know, the guy who screws you over

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Speaker 3: in business, Hey, you didn't use the term screws you over.

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Speaker 3: The guy who screws you over because he's gonna get paid.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna make some money out of it. You may

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Speaker 3: not like it, and they may be wrong and everything else,

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Speaker 3: but you can understand it. They were doing it for

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Speaker 3: the for the dollar. The person you have to worry

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Speaker 3: about is the person who will screw you over for

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Speaker 3: nothing they don't gain anything from it. That person is dangerous.

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Speaker 3: You're saying shut down for two governors races, that that's

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Speaker 3: not going to impact the governor's races, or is it

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Speaker 3: giving in and signing the CR. Voting for the CR

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Speaker 3: is seen as quitting and is going to demoralize the left,

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Speaker 3: which would mean that they actually do like this stuff,

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Speaker 3: or at least that's the bet. You know. There was

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Speaker 3: the argument that the party is run by the leftist

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Speaker 3: progressives and the far left. I don't you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't believe that Democrats are being controlled by the far left.

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Speaker 3: I believe Democrats are the far left, that there are

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Speaker 3: very few actual Democrats out there. There are all leftist

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Speaker 3: progressives and the leadership, whether it be Chuck Schimmer or

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Speaker 3: Costa Cortez or Bernie Sanders, r Ayana Presley or Chris

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Speaker 3: van Holland, they are the leftist progressives. They aren't Democrats.

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Speaker 3: So it's not like they're being led by this wild

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Speaker 3: mob outside the capitol. The wild is the party in

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Speaker 3: the Capitol not voting to open up the government. So

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Speaker 3: what a it's a wild kind of scene where this

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Speaker 3: can't help. It can't, but being seen as giving in

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Speaker 3: now could hurt. Oh okay, all right, you know what,

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Speaker 3: thank you, all right, now, we understand it. That could

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Speaker 3: very well be it. It won't help, but if you

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Speaker 3: give up now, it could hurt. All right, that could

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Speaker 3: be a mathematics back to Speaker Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 8: Now they will have another opportunity today, the Democrats and

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Speaker 8: the Senate will have their fifteenth opportunity to do the

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Speaker 8: right thing. We're concerned that they won't. And if they

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Speaker 8: reject this for the fifteen time, they will be ensuring

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Speaker 8: that this shutdown continues past the November one deadline, and

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Speaker 8: that is a fateful deadline for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 8: Starting on Saturday, let me give you a list of

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Speaker 8: things this means for the American people. It means that

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Speaker 8: tens of millions of American families will struggle to keep

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Speaker 8: food on the table because the SNAP program benefits.

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Speaker 13: Will run dry.

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Speaker 8: It means that Wick Assistance, that's women, infants in children,

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Speaker 8: the nutrition programs will be at risk of running dry.

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Speaker 8: It means that head Start centers, which serve sixty thousand

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Speaker 8: children nationwide, will be at risk of closure. Millions of

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Speaker 8: federal workers and we've listed them here. Every day you're

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Speaker 8: talking about air traffic controllers and TSA agents, and park

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Speaker 8: rangers and border patrol agents, law enforcement around the country.

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Speaker 8: The stewards of our nuclear arsenal will miss their paychecks.

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Speaker 8: Thousands of flights by results will be canceled or delayed,

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Speaker 8: while our borders in national security will be directly jeopardized

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Speaker 8: at a very dangerous moment in world history, and our

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Speaker 8: country will lose tens of billions in gross domestic product.

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Speaker 8: With each passing day, the pain gets more real, and

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Speaker 8: the Democrats are guaranteeing when they vote to reject our

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Speaker 8: clean funding resolution, we expect they will do that again

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Speaker 8: today for the fifteenth time. They are showing no shame whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Now, this idea of money lost, there was a story

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Speaker 3: that you see, it's on the show sheet there at

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz dot com that the shutdown is costing sixteen

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Speaker 3: billion weight no sorry, fourteen sorry, fourteen billion dollars. This

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Speaker 3: according to the Congressional Budget Office, that the negative effect

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Speaker 3: on the economy, it could lose up to fourteen billion.

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Speaker 3: And the argument is now mostly things will come back,

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Speaker 3: but not entirely, meaning that let's say it's fourteen billion. Now,

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Speaker 3: now you find the government, now what introduces to a

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Speaker 3: billion dollars negative impact? There is still a negative impact

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Speaker 3: that takes place. The issue is that you know, these

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Speaker 3: people are still going to get paid one way or another.

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Speaker 3: It's what do they do in the meantime? And so

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Speaker 3: as that pain grows, that's where the story gets larger.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to snap benefits, well, eventually they'll get

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Speaker 3: their snap benefits. What do they do about food? Now,

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Speaker 3: now we should not allow ourselves to get into an

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Speaker 3: argument that I agree with, by the way, which is

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Speaker 3: exactly how many people do we have on food stamps?

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Speaker 3: What are we doing to get people off of food stamps?

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Speaker 3: Why do we have people so dependent on food stamps?

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Speaker 3: And I was sharing this story earlier. This was somebody

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Speaker 3: had this interview on the streets of It was Fox five,

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Speaker 3: I think in Atlanta. Did you hear this? A reporter

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Speaker 3: speaking to a woman on the street. I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 3: it real with you.

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Speaker 17: I get over twenty five hundred a month in stamps.

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Speaker 17: I sell them two thousand worth for about twelve to

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Speaker 17: fifteen hundred cash. That's why everybody's upset. Folks say we're

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Speaker 17: taking advantage, but that's how we get by.

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Speaker 3: And oh now, if someone told me that was some

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Speaker 3: kind of AIV I would believe it, except you believe it.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of people out there manipulating the system.

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Speaker 3: Without question, that is happening. The people we want to

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Speaker 3: help are the people we want to help. The people

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Speaker 3: we want to throw in jail other people we want

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Speaker 3: to throw in jail. We're not going to be able

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Speaker 3: to today differentiate between the two. But there is no

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Speaker 3: doubt that there are people who we want to help,

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Speaker 3: people who need helping, people we should help. I'm all

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Speaker 3: in for this, but how many are American citizens and

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Speaker 3: how many are not? And how many are able bodied,

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Speaker 3: and how many are not, and how many are doing

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Speaker 3: things like that? Which is jail is not enough as

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Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned. You do that, you don't get anything.

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Speaker 3: You better have private charity help you. There comes a

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Speaker 3: moment we got to say we've done everything we can.

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Speaker 3: We're done here, We're done here. Thank you. It's a

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Speaker 3: crazy story. But how do you tell people, you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: things will get better once the government gets back open.

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Speaker 3: When they're talking about feeding themselves, feeding their kids. That's

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Speaker 3: that is a real serious issue, as you well can understand,

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01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 3: and something that is going to put even more pressure

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Speaker 3: on Democrats to vote for the continuing Resolution. But here's

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Speaker 3: where Speaker Johnson does something very interesting. Seeing the political opportunity,

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Speaker 3: that's my take, and wanting to further engage the idea

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Speaker 3: about the radicalness of the political left and engage more

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Speaker 3: damage on what it is they're doing to the country.

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Speaker 3: He's like, you know, I brought my friends from New

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Speaker 3: York with me because you know, Chuck Schumer, he's just

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Speaker 3: trying to do the bidding of the hard left. And

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Speaker 3: who is that best represented by Zorn mom Donnie the

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Speaker 3: mayoral candidate in New York Watch Speaker Johnson, make this

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Speaker 3: now the subject of the shutdown.

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Speaker 8: Let me say that again. The Democrat leaders in the

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Speaker 8: Senate and.

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Speaker 13: The House have put their own.

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Speaker 8: Political survival in front of the needs of the American people.

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Speaker 13: Exhibit A is Zoron Mamdani.

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Speaker 8: New York City, America's largest city, the cradle of capitalism

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Speaker 8: that has always been, is facing a real crisis right now.

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Speaker 8: They've got a thirty four year old, unproven, untested socialist

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Speaker 8: who looks to be.

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Speaker 13: The next mayor. He may well be elected.

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Speaker 8: Mandami winning New York City would be the biggest win

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Speaker 8: for the Marxists, the socialist in the history of this country.

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Speaker 8: We have to this point, in nearly two hundred and

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Speaker 8: fifty years, been able to hold off.

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Speaker 13: Those kinds of ideas. We've been able to cling to.

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Speaker 8: The foundational principles of America, the ideas of individual freedom

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Speaker 8: and limited government, and the rule of law and peace

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Speaker 8: through strength and fiscal responsibility, and free markets and human

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Speaker 8: dignity all those things are in jeopardy when the Marxists

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Speaker 8: take over.

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Speaker 13: And it's the clearest sign yet.

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Speaker 8: That the Democrats radical Marxist wing is winning the battle

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01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 8: for control of their party. Look at where the energy is.

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Speaker 8: This should be alarming to everyone around the country. Mom

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Speaker 8: Donnie has a course called to defund the police, to

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Speaker 8: abolish all prisons, to legalize prostitution. He lambassed the New

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Speaker 8: York PD, New York Police Department as a racist system.

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Speaker 8: And you might have seen in the media are covering this,

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Speaker 8: But there was a new video uncovered from twenty twenty

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Speaker 8: three ages two years ago, and he said, quote, we

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Speaker 8: have to be clear. When the boot of the NYPD

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Speaker 8: is on your neck, it's been laced by the IDF. Look,

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Speaker 8: it's a unique talent to merge one's loathing for American

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Speaker 8: law enforcement with their loathing for the Jewish people. But

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Speaker 8: this guy's he's managed to do it. New York is

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Speaker 8: just the tip of the iceberg. It's not isolated to

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Speaker 8: America's largest city. It's other cities as well. Look at Seattle,

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Speaker 8: where the leading candidate for mayor is an open socialist.

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Speaker 8: Look at Minneapolis, where the sitting socialists mayor is facing

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Speaker 8: a challenge from his left flank.

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Speaker 3: And look here in.

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Speaker 8: Congress, where we have our own wing of Marxist acolytes

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Speaker 8: serving here. Amazingly, the media is criticizing Republicans for fixating.

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Speaker 13: On Mom Donnie. I read some of that yesterday.

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Speaker 8: This socialist uprising is something that we have a responsibility

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Speaker 8: to call out and sound the alarms. That's what elected

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Speaker 8: representatives of the people are supposed to do, and we

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Speaker 8: take that responsibility seriously.

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Speaker 3: He's right about Mom Donnie and the one two punch,

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01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 3: and he's right about Look who's in Congress. Look who

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01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 3: they're frontal elect around the country. This is serious stuff.

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Speaker 3: It is serious stuff. Tying that progressive leftist movement to

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Speaker 3: the shutdown smart politics. If you ask me now, I

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01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 3: don't want to overly confuse people. I don't want to

1382
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 3: overly engage in a connect the dots. You're winning on this,

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01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 3: keep at it. But there's only so many days you

1384
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 3: can go up there and say, man, I wish they'd

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Speaker 3: vote for the continuing Resolution. You have to get into

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Speaker 3: the why. And now you're having your you have the

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Speaker 3: ability to paint, unencumbered, paint the Democratic Party as commies

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01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 3: say the words, Look at how craze they are. Look

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Speaker 3: at this and what can the Democrats do? As long

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Speaker 3: as they keep losing on this shutdown, they keep getting

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Speaker 3: painted as a matter of politics. As long as it's

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Speaker 3: there's focus. I can't wait to see where this goes.

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Speaker 3: Because what Mike Johnson is saying, speaker is saying about

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Speaker 3: the leftists progressives is one hundred percent correct. Keep it here.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz Today. You gotta love the way

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01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 3: that the headline was written, but it does show that

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Speaker 3: there are people willing to push back on President Trump

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Speaker 3: when need be. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

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Speaker 3: be with you. Republicans join Democrats to push back on tariffs.

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Speaker 3: That was the basic the basic concept of the headline,

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Speaker 3: Senate Republicans defect reads Fox News rejects Trump tariffs on

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Speaker 3: Canadian goods. So you had Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Rand

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Speaker 3: Paul of Kentucky, Mitch mcconnal of Kentucky, Susan Collins of Maine,

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01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 3: which you could argue are the usual suspect saying nope, nope,

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01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, you can't do that. The very concept of

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01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 3: what's happening here, is the idea of President Trump putting

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Speaker 3: another ten percent tariff on Canadian goods, because the province

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01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 3: there of Ontario put out that ad utilizing Ronald Reagan's

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01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 3: voice talking about tariffs and kind of cherry picking moments

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Speaker 3: and creating an ad that says tariff's are bad the

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01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 3: United States, you should be better than this and not

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Speaker 3: treating us this way here in Canada. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: not a tariff guy. Right as tactic, yes, as policy now, no,

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Speaker 3: as some kind of standard. I don't believe that there

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Speaker 3: is a good that is achieved overall. The numbers don't

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Speaker 3: say that, the theorists don't say that. And what we're

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Speaker 3: seeing right now is this interesting mixed bag where the

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Speaker 3: President could say, see, but it's still us paying more money.

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Speaker 3: And I argue there comes a moment when it all

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Speaker 3: falls apart. But neither here nor there. These senators who

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01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 3: are saying no to this, We're not gonna have this.

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01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 3: They want to terminate the emergency powers Trump is used

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Speaker 3: to declare retaliatory tariffs against Canada. And that's just it.

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01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 3: No matter where we are on tariffs, someone makes a

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01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 3: dopey video and your answer is another ten percent tariff.

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Speaker 3: You're proving that the tariffs aren't about economic policy. Please

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Speaker 3: do not ask me to be in favor of this

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Speaker 3: type of activity. I'm not, but I don't care whose

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01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 3: feelings get hurt. I want what is best for us,

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01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 3: and what is best for us is not some scattershot

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Speaker 3: approach saying I throw a tariff on anytime. You don't

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01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 3: laugh at my jokes. It's an absolutely horrific, terrible idea.

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Speaker 3: And this is the only point that I try to

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Speaker 3: make here. The only point that I am trying to

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Speaker 3: make is that as a matter of philosophy, we shouldn't

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Speaker 3: go with that one, nor should we be you know,

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Speaker 3: tariffs as policy. But that's not a story for another day.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today.

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01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 3: We have always said that one has to give kudos

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01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 3: when people do things right, even if they are people

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01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 3: we disagree with. Tony Kats. Tony Kats Today, Good to

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Speaker 3: be with you. Find everything in Tony Katz dot Com, Twitter, ex,

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01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony Kats Radio, Instagram. Tony Katz. You

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01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 3: should be following those places immediately over there. You know

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01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 3: she's still trying to hawk her book. And know I'm

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Speaker 3: not talking about Karn John Pierre, who we all know this,

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01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 3: but man, some people have a hard time understanding that

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01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 3: kartn John Pierre is not bright. That whatever she was

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Speaker 3: able to do on television before she got the opportunity

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01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 3: to be the deputy press secretary and then the press

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Speaker 3: secretary to Joe Biden as press secretary, she was ignorant,

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Speaker 3: She was incapable, she was incompetent. She was a fool,

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Speaker 3: embarrassingly so. And anybody who has a problem with that

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Speaker 3: being said is, well, not somebody. I'm going to concern

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Speaker 3: myself with another schedule. Anybody who wants to say, well, Tony,

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Speaker 3: that's just because you're a bigot. Because she was a

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01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 3: black woman, she was incapable, and she was incompetent. And

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Speaker 3: if you want to say you can't say that because

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Speaker 3: she's a black woman, well then you're a racist. And

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01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 3: to heck with you, I don't need to put up

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Speaker 3: with that, neither to you. Cring Jonpierre is incompetent. And

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Speaker 3: if you say to me you can't say that because

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Speaker 3: she's black, well then you're a big and I have

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01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 3: no time for that. Honesty requires honesty she got the

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01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 3: job because of the color of her skin. Because that's

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Speaker 3: what Joe Biden did. Heat's what he said about his

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Speaker 3: vice president, that's what he said about Supreme Court nominee.

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Speaker 3: It's who he is. And I am not saying Jensaki

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Speaker 3: was great. I'm saying Jensaki was more capable. Those are

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Speaker 3: the facts as presented, and we will not be deterred

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Speaker 3: from saying so. But equally in the in the world

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Speaker 3: of incapable as a politico is Kamala Harris. The woman

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01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 3: is in capable, She is incompetent. She does not connect

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Speaker 3: the dots on anything. And then, of course now I'm

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01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 3: just playing it because I have the excuse. But she's

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Speaker 3: trying to sell her book. Is Kamala Harris krim? Jhon

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01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 3: Pierre trying to sell her book? And Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 3: on Australian broadcasting. She's with Sarah Ferguson. This is amazing

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01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 3: because Sarah Ferguson is putting up with none of the nonsense,

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Speaker 3: just like we won't put up with it. Regarding for

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Speaker 3: in John Pierre, we are a growing number of people

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Speaker 3: who just won't put up a nonsense. Answers, please honesty, please, decency,

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Speaker 3: Please not your Oh you can't say that because it's bigotry,

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01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 3: kiss off stuff. We're talking about, just getting at it.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

1486
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 18: Wasn't Joe Biden then to put it on him? Wasn't

1487
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 18: his refusal to recognize his own trayalties the reason that

1488
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 18: you faced a nearly impossible task.

1489
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 12: I ran against Donald Trump for president, and Donald Trump

1490
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 12: ran on a platform that was, in large part, I believe,

1491
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 12: misrepresenting his intentions to the American people. I do believe

1492
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 12: that there are a fair number of people that voted

1493
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 12: for Donald Trump who believed him when he told them

1494
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 12: that his first priority on day one is going to

1495
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 12: be to bring down prices, and he didn't. And you

1496
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 12: combine that misrepresentation of intention with also what was that

1497
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 12: play in terms of massive amounts of mis and disinformation?

1498
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 3: Hold on a second, what was the missing disinformation except

1499
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 3: what was coming out of the Oval Office and coming

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01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 3: out of the White House that Joe Biden was somehow

1501
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 3: in charge of things. Yes, President Trump said he would

1502
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 3: bring down prices from day one, and now we do

1503
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 3: have lower egg prices, and we do have lower gas prices.

1504
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 3: Not everything is lowered. No, No, no, no, no, not

1505
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 3: at all, not by any stretch. And we agree that

1506
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 3: politicians say politician things. Because Trump also said he did

1507
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 3: the war with Russian Ukraine on day one. Now, that

1508
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 3: didn't happen. But Trump has done a series of things

1509
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 3: and engaged a series of moves to at least put

1510
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 3: the effort in far more than anything Joe Biden did.

1511
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 3: But neither one of those things is a misrepresentation. Trump

1512
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 3: voters do not feel like they were lied to, not

1513
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 3: in the slightest they you know, they tried this like

1514
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 3: two months after the election. Uh, buyer's remorse. Oh, these

1515
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:31,799
Speaker 3: Trump supporters are buyer's remorse. What are you talking about? Nobody,

1516
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 3: nobody regrets their vote. And I'm a guy who has

1517
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 3: public disagreements with the president on some economic issues. I

1518
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 3: don't regret my vote. Which is this idea that you

1519
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 3: need total fealty. Never never buy into that and never

1520
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,839
Speaker 3: believe that you're allowed to have disagreements. And it's okay,

1521
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: we're all good here. So this idea of misinformation, disinformation,

1522
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 3: not true, not factual. If you want to talk about

1523
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 3: the people lying, talk about the Biden White House. Sarah

1524
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 3: Ferguson pushes back forgive me.

1525
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 16: I wanted a calendar in terms of yes o'clock. I

1526
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,839
Speaker 16: want to interrupt you because that is a world class pivot.

1527
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 16: But it is not the question that I asked you,

1528
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 16: which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own frailties.

1529
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 3: And boom, my gosh, that's good. She's like, yeah, yeah,

1530
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. That isn't the question that

1531
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 3: I asked. I didn't ask the question. I asked the

1532
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 3: question about Joe Biden's frailties, and you went into a

1533
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 3: conversation about Donald Trump engaging in misinformation. So let me

1534
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 3: bring it back. And the look on Kamala Harris's face,

1535
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 3: the look on her face is up. I just went

1536
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 3: boom boom, like just she knows that by lay, I

1537
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 3: have never said boom boom.

1538
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:03,560
Speaker 19: I'll here, and I feel pretty uncomfortable in having done it.

1539
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 19: And I'd like to apologize to you. That's funny that

1540
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 19: said on with the fireworks.

1541
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 18: What that did to you. The question is about Joe Biden.

1542
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 18: Are you still reluctant to criticize the former president in

1543
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 18: what regard?

1544
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:19,679
Speaker 3: Please?

1545
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 18: Well, just in terms of that question, so you went

1546
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 18: exactly would you.

1547
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 12: Like to ask be more specific if you don't mind.

1548
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 18: Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his

1549
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 18: own frailties in that position that put you in the

1550
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 18: position that made it almost impossible to win that race.

1551
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 12: He was not frail as president of the United States.

1552
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 3: But he had frailties.

1553
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 18: We all saw the debate.

1554
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 12: I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to

1555
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 12: be president of the United States.

1556
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 3: Oh my, Now one has to ask why she's falling

1557
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 3: on the sword, right like, that's the first question. Immediately

1558
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 3: you start going through your mind, and the answer is

1559
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 3: she's going to need him if she runs again. She

1560
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 3: needs to show that she is still about the party.

1561
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 3: No one's going to look to Joe Biden for anything

1562
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight. But she knows she's behind the eight

1563
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 3: ball with a whole bunch of people in the Democratic

1564
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 3: Party who don't want her, so she might still need him.

1565
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 3: She knows she doesn't have Nancy Pelosi on her side,

1566
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 3: she knows she doesn't have Barack Obama on her side.

1567
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 3: So listen to that.

1568
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 12: And I have never doubted that he had the capacity

1569
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 12: to be president of the United States. If you want

1570
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 12: to talk about whether he had the ability to endure

1571
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 12: what a race or president of the United States would

1572
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 12: require in that political environment in twenty twenty four. As

1573
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,879
Speaker 12: I've said in the book, I had concerns.

1574
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,759
Speaker 18: I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't

1575
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 18: go to that prolonged trailty question. No, we sow the debate,

1576
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 18: we sow the difficulty he had marshaling.

1577
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 3: He answered that question. I do not believe.

1578
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 18: I think it's just hard watching the debate to see

1579
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 18: how there could not be a problem long term with

1580
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 18: someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying his

1581
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 18: acuity wasn't present.

1582
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,799
Speaker 12: That in the book, and I also mentioned the context

1583
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 12: in which that debate occurred.

1584
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 3: And you'll probably.

1585
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 12: Remember how I talked about that in terms of what

1586
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,759
Speaker 12: his travel schedule had been, that what he had been enduring,

1587
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 12: in terms of the timing of that debate. I talk

1588
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 12: about it extensively in the book. I'm not shying away

1589
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 12: from that. So I wrote it in the book because

1590
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 12: I do know it's a question people had.

1591
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,839
Speaker 3: Are we still getting into this idea that Joe Biden

1592
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 3: performed poorly in the debate because he was tired because

1593
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 3: he had just flown around the world. Trump just did

1594
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 3: nine hundred hours in Asia. He's going to get off

1595
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 3: the plane at Andrews. He's going to do a thirty

1596
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 3: five minute press conference. He's going to go work his

1597
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 3: second job at McDonald. He's going to come back to

1598
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,560
Speaker 3: the White House direct the construction of the ballroom, and

1599
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 3: then he's going to get to work. Holy mackerel man,

1600
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 3: that is just fun right there. That is just fun

1601
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 3: right there. What it is that took place? And good

1602
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 3: on Sarah Ferguson. Nicely done. I don't know her, but seriously,

1603
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 3: nicely done. These people refuse to be honest about what happened,

1604
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 3: about what they did, about how they lied, which is

1605
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 3: another thing. Kamala Harris can't be honest because then she'll

1606
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 3: have to admit that she was part of the line

1607
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 3: in the cabal to overtake the country and run the

1608
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 3: country instead of the President of the United States, who

1609
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 3: was clearly incapacitated. Clearly, this is Tony Kats today. I

1610
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 3: will be digging more into it on this show and

1611
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 3: as we go forward. But a lot of people have

1612
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:59,719
Speaker 3: been asking, as they're on social media, who the heck

1613
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 3: is Jennifer Welch Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to

1614
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 3: be with You. She was on Bravo. I don't know

1615
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 3: which one of those shows that she was a part of,

1616
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 3: but Jennifer Welch has now kind of catapulted herself into

1617
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 3: leftist progressive mainstream by being the most hateful, vitriolic white

1618
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 3: woman Karen you ever saw in your entire life. She

1619
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 3: is the poster child of Karen's, completely and fully, and

1620
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 3: she's calling this one a name, and that one a name,

1621
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 3: and any four letter word she can find in any

1622
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 3: derogatory term, she can find it. Oh my gosh, how shocking.

1623
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 3: It's not shocking, It's boring as can be. And if

1624
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 3: the Democrats want her to lead them in the world

1625
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 3: of culture, they found their Joe Rogan go right aead no,

1626
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 3: no no, Put her front and center. Put this conversation

1627
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:02,719
Speaker 3: right here, front and center.

1628
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 9: Like Stephen Miller is a white supremacist, I mean he is,

1629
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 9: and he's basically running the White House. They keep Trump

1630
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 9: busy with his decorating projects. He's got building the arch,

1631
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 9: now he's got his oval office design. And then you

1632
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 9: have these real sociopaths that are real anti semits true

1633
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 9: white supremacists like Stephen Miller, and even though he's Jewish,

1634
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 9: he's like a Nazi Jew.

1635
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 3: Well, look, I can't, I can't speak ah the old

1636
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 3: Nazi jew comment. Uh, well, this is the tame stuff

1637
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 3: because she's talking to Abbie Phillip there from CNN. But

1638
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 3: you've seen her everywhere and it's all just so absolutely vicious. Yeah. Yeah,

1639
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 3: this is a solid representation of where today's liberal white

1640
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 3: woman is now. I get a fair amount of pushback

1641
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 3: when I talk about liberal white women being dangerous because

1642
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 3: they are because liberal white women are absolutely susceptible to

1643
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 3: being guilted into near anything. They are absolutely hateful because

1644
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 3: of their training from name the university, and they give

1645
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:19,600
Speaker 3: license to an excuse for the worst parts of society.

1646
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: These are the people who side with terrorists. These are

1647
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,640
Speaker 3: the people who think that men can be women and

1648
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 3: to hell with Riley Gaines and too bad she wasn't

1649
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 3: a better swimmer.

1650
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:30,640
Speaker 6: Ha ha ha.

1651
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 3: That's what they do. They're vicious and nasty people because well, well,

1652
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 3: there's actually a host of reasons, including what I assume

1653
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 3: is very unhappy lives. We're not talking about somebody who

1654
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 3: may have a disagreement with you. Politically, we're talking about

1655
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 3: wrapping oneself up in an ideology where they are protected

1656
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 3: by every creature comfort and never have to live the

1657
01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 3: result of those policies. They are protected from it. We

1658
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 3: have to tax the rich more. I'm sorry, my husband's

1659
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 3: taking me on vacation. You don't think that happens. Are

1660
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 3: we gonna pretend now we're gonna play imaginary games that

1661
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 3: that isn't a case in a lot of cases, in

1662
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 3: the vast majority of cases, of course it is. Of

1663
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 3: course it is if we're talking about maybe not Jennifer Welch,

1664
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 3: we were talking about liberal white women in general. Of

1665
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 3: course it is. Oh, when they take the vacation, but

1666
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 3: they hate the guy who provided the vacation, and that

1667
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:38,560
Speaker 3: guy is somehow hoping maybe to have five minutes of

1668
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 3: just peace and quiet. Oh, I'm sorry, did I hit

1669
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 3: the nail too much on the head? My oops, My bad.

1670
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 3: You see, I'll get lambasted for that. But Jennifer Welch

1671
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 3: will call this one a name and that won a name,

1672
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 3: and call people the Jewish and Nazis, and it's somehow like, oh,

1673
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 3: she's so brave, Oh she's so smart.

1674
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 16: No, no, she was.

1675
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 3: She's an interior designer by the way, and had a

1676
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 3: show on Bravo called Sweet Home Oklahoma. It lasted for

1677
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 3: maybe two seasons. Right, that's who she is. But here's

1678
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 3: where she's found an opportunity for fame. Let that be

1679
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 3: their fame. Let that happen. The more that happens, the

1680
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:32,480
Speaker 3: more you see this woman with you know, just sneering

1681
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 3: and snarling and for me, right, not not what I

1682
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 3: find attractive. People will decide for themselves what young man

1683
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 3: is going to be connected to that, What younger person

1684
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 3: wants to say, like, see that and be like I

1685
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 3: want to emulate that. Nothing. There's nothing there to emulate.

1686
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 3: There's nothing there to be a part of. There's nothing

1687
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 3: there to be connected to. I said. Let her rise,

1688
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 3: Let Jasmine Crockett rise. Let us utilize them for the

1689
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 3: fodder they are. They may profit from it. Right, you

1690
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 3: can't stop that from happening sometimes, But let their hatred,

1691
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 3: their vitriol, their ignorance, let it rise. Not so much

1692
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 3: that it's going to inspire the progressive left, but rather

1693
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 3: others will see it and say, my gosh, I want

1694
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 3: no part of it. Would I rather they weren't like this. Yes,

1695
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 3: of course, would I rather they had no popularity? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: But do I think that it is somehow impactful to

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Speaker 3: the country that we can lose elections from them. No,

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01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 3: I think they can help themselves lose elections. I do now.

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Speaker 3: There is a philosophy about going harder left and harder

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Speaker 3: left and harder left, because what people don't want is

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01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 3: to see their people equivocate. How much is true, but

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Speaker 3: I think just from the appearances and the presentation, you

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Speaker 3: gotta bet against their success. Find everything at Tony Kots

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Speaker 3: dot com. Tomorrow, everyone take care of