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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan,

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Speaker 1: Save the.

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Speaker 2: Duns and Kennisto, they shine.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: He is a sensation in college football, no question about that.

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza is one of four players to know have

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Speaker 1: been invited to New York City for this Saturday's Heisman

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Speaker 1: Trophy ceremony. He has done amazing things in his year

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Speaker 1: at Indiana, leading them to an undefeated season of birth

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Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff and man, we are dying

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Speaker 1: to know more about this this young man and it

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Speaker 1: seems like just a really cool kid too. Dave Dunn,

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Speaker 1: his high school football coach over at Christopher Columbus High

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Speaker 1: in Miami, joins us now on the Payless Liquors Hotline

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more about this young man,

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Speaker 1: and we're hungry, coach, to find out everything we can

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Speaker 1: about him.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, and welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you being here, but it's got to be

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Speaker 1: almost surreal to have a kid that you coached in

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Speaker 1: high school going to New York to maybe get the

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Huh, it really is guys. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: He's just a tremendous young man. So watching him have

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Speaker 3: the success he's had at IU, it has been amazing

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Speaker 3: for everybody down here in Miami and especially at Christopher

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Speaker 3: Columbus High School.

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Speaker 4: And that's Dave done the coach as he said at

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Speaker 4: Christopher Columbus High School, and Dave Kevin Bowen here, I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you responding and joining us on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 4: Let's go back to the first time for Nano Mendoza.

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Speaker 4: Got I would say, probably accurately thrust into a game

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Speaker 4: for you down there. I know you've told the story before,

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Speaker 4: but for our audience it hasn't heard it. It's quite

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Speaker 4: the story.

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Speaker 3: He was injured and didn't practice the whole week, and

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Speaker 3: the kind of cleared him right before the game, and

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Speaker 3: I hold his dad right before the game. He said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to worry. We're not going to put

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Speaker 3: him in. He said, don't worry about it. Well, a

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Speaker 3: quarterback got knocked out with about a minute to go

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Speaker 3: which basically, you know, put us in position to win

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Speaker 5: So that is what year was this for Fernando.

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Speaker 3: It was a sophomore year, and his dad just shook

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Speaker 3: his head as we're walking off the field and said,

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Speaker 3: I thought you said he wasn't going to play. So

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Speaker 3: he literally he made a statement on his first pass

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Speaker 4: And coaches there a little more. What wasn't there maybe

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Speaker 4: a missed kick that led all of a sudden you

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Speaker 4: need him to do it again, and Mendoza got you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we ended up it made it score twenty eight,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven, We missed the extra point, went through an

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Speaker 3: so it would have been a much better story if

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Speaker 3: we made either of the two kicks, but he did

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Speaker 5: I was going to say, you sound like an Ohio

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Speaker 5: but obviously I you and your former quarterback played spoilers

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Speaker 5: of the greatest stories in all of college sports history. So,

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Speaker 5: coach for you, when did you perhaps realize that Fernando

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Speaker 5: every coach is going to be high on their starting

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Speaker 3: His first start came that next week because we still

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Speaker 3: him do, like on on Saturday night versus Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: like he's and he was a big kid. He was

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Speaker 4: That's crazy stuff.

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Speaker 1: So when you're watching that game this Saturday and the

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Speaker 3: I just had a film they were going to have

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Speaker 3: You just can't play and hope that you're going to

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Speaker 4: Again, that's Dave Dune, the high school coach of Fernando

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Speaker 4: Mendosi's with the Sea on the paylofs lookers hoghline on

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Speaker 4: this Tuesday morning. Coach, I know, his high school recruitment,

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Speaker 4: you know, potentially that impacted some things. But how would

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Speaker 4: for him this time last year?

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Speaker 3: It was night and day just because we couldn't. His

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Speaker 3: junior year, we had a really good team. We were undefeated,

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Speaker 3: he played unreal that year and just we couldn't and

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Speaker 3: as good around him as senior year, how good of

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Speaker 3: a player he was. And I was a Division IE

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Speaker 3: was begging that. I said, he's you never say can't

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Speaker 3: was very for It was frush. He handled it probably

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Speaker 5: At this point, again, we have Dave done on the line.

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Speaker 5: The high school coach of Fernando Mendoza coach. One that

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Speaker 5: I'm curious about when it comes to Fernando, and I

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Speaker 5: say this in endearing fashion, the Hoosias are flipping champions

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Speaker 5: and I'm not, you know, editing that for radio. He

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Speaker 5: have you seen him balance being We've joked about it

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Speaker 3: You deep down he's he's a killer, and that's what

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Speaker 3: He's got a different mindset than than than people would

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Speaker 3: But on field stone cold killer. And that's what I

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Speaker 3: everyone keeps asking me They're like, is that how he

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Speaker 3: Some people think that, you know, he's putting on an

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Speaker 4: Coach, you haven't any conversation with I don't know any

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Speaker 4: of it. What would you say about Fernando's parents. Obviously

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Speaker 4: But what was high school life like with the Mendoza parents.

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Speaker 3: They were unbelieved because the dad played offensive line at

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Speaker 3: he he was put I always say this to everybody

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Speaker 3: Alberto and Fernando, Between me and his dad, it was

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Speaker 3: bad cop, bad cop. We were both really hard on him.

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Speaker 3: There was no good cop. The else of the mom

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Speaker 3: many design run plays, she would tell me, don't have

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Speaker 3: him run the ball so much. They literally let me

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's fantastic. It's great to learn about him. And

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Speaker 1: Kevin mentioned Alberta too. How is Alberto as a quarterback

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Speaker 3: You know what he's they're different, and he's he's an

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Speaker 3: unbelievable competitor and he he plays with you know, people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: you know, Fernando plays with a chip on the shoulder.

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Speaker 3: I go, if that's the case, then Alberto plays with

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Speaker 3: confident in his ability. He's he's an absolute killer as

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Speaker 3: a competitor, just like just like Fernando. But I but

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Speaker 3: you know, And Alberta will will remind Fernando all the time.

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Speaker 3: Alberto never lost a playoff game Columbus High School. They

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Speaker 3: My friend. Thanks guys, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: You bet Da've done.

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Speaker 1: Head football coach at Christopher Columbus High School in Miami.

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Speaker 1: He just seems like he's just got this infectious personality.

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Speaker 5: We're saying that was a clean hit. I saw him

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Speaker 1: And the next time we see him it'll be the

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Speaker 4: Site visit for IU yesterday. Yeah, there are boots on

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Fan Morning Show with James Woyd. Back

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Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. How was the Lovely City of Jacksonville. By

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Speaker 1: the way, it was rainy.

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Speaker 5: I'll say that it was leaking in the press box,

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Speaker 4: James, I was wrong, man. I looked at you a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And honestly, you know, I see that last week

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Speaker 5: Yeah. But if you look at the eleven losses now

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Speaker 1: You know, we were looking yesterday and the free agent

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to wait five more years. That's two

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I I know, James. I when I saw

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Speaker 4: Really see similarities between Jeff Saturday and this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but here's the thing though, if you're the Cults,

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Speaker 5: What do you do?

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Speaker 5: So I think it's very desperate. It kind of feels

439
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Speaker 5: like to me when the Pacers were terrible back in

440
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one to twenty two and they signed Lan Stevenson,

441
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Speaker 5: and it was just like, yeah, is.

442
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Speaker 4: This a circus act?

443
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Speaker 5: It was just like, at least it's entertaining. It's kind

444
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Speaker 5: of what I think of it. Ass So from that standpoint,

445
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Speaker 5: I guess it's not boring. But realistically, yeah, it does

446
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 5: seem kind of ridiculous that you're asking a guy who

447
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Speaker 5: hasn't played in five years to come out and work

448
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Speaker 5: out and you know, sling the ball for you. But

449
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Speaker 5: also I think it's most embarrassing. And I'll say this

450
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Speaker 5: is it hopefully a disparaging comment, But Brett Ripan, I'm like, man,

451
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Speaker 5: I'm twenty nine. I'll be sitting there like, there's no

452
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Speaker 5: way in hell A got forty four it's better than

453
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Speaker 5: me a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So, basically, to summarize it all up, as James

455
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 4: just said, right there, your options right now at quarterback,

456
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 4: assuming right Leonard is not available to play, Let's start there.

457
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 4: Knee injury for Riley Leonard flared up after the game

458
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Speaker 4: on Sunday. If he is not available to go this

459
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Speaker 4: week in Seattle, then right now, the only healthy quarterback

460
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Speaker 4: on your roster is Brett Ripping. He is currently on

461
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Speaker 4: the practice squad he's been at the team for two months.

462
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Speaker 4: He lasts through a pass the NFL in twenty twenty three.

463
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Speaker 4: I think he has four career starts, two and two.

464
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Speaker 4: So basically it is either Brett Rippon or else right

465
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Speaker 4: and right now else indicates else. Right now technically is

466
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Speaker 4: Tyler Warren. That's their other backup quarterback currently. So they

467
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Speaker 4: do have to sign somebody. So for everyone out there like,

468
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Speaker 4: oh why go to Philip River, they have to get

469
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Speaker 4: somebody on the roster this week and they will certainly

470
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Speaker 4: sign a quarterback and then I'm waiting for them as well.

471
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Speaker 4: Kevin to put Daniel Jones officially on injured reserve, which

472
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Speaker 4: opened up another roster spot for you, So there's some

473
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Speaker 4: roster maneuvering that has to go on anyway. But yeah,

474
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Speaker 4: the idea that Philip Rivers is being brought in is,

475
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Speaker 4: like I said, I had to make sure I checked

476
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Speaker 4: my text and I wasn't getting punked, and you know,

477
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Speaker 4: I don't want to confirm anything. It's a per sources

478
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Speaker 4: and I'm dead wrong. So just interesting waye for sure, Jeff,

479
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Speaker 4: you about a practice squad quarterbacks and Austin, thank you

480
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Speaker 4: for pointing us in this direction, Jeff Driscoll, Kyle Trask,

481
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Speaker 4: Mike White, Sean Clifford, Bailey ZAPPI yes, Sam Ellinger in Denver,

482
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Speaker 4: Clayton Tune, Carter Bradley, the son of Gus Bradley. Wouldn't

483
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Speaker 4: that be something, Kyle McCord, Trevor Simeon, Sam hart Well.

484
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Speaker 5: To be clear, Sam is still actually on the active

485
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Speaker 5: roster for Denver. Was the active You couldn't go get him.

486
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Speaker 4: This list has him on the Broncos practice squad.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the Broncos like active roster right now

488
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Speaker 6: on their website. So those are the names Keith mentioned

489
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Speaker 6: just called. Couldn't hang on said, wait, he's at least

490
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Speaker 6: looking for next year, he said, Kyler Murray an the interest.

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Speaker 5: We gotta go to break. I had to think about

492
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Speaker 5: that one.

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Speaker 4: Lord.

494
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Speaker 5: They had to put a close that he wouldn't about it.

495
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Speaker 5: I don't know how him and Shane Styching would drive

496
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Speaker 5: for that matter.

497
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Speaker 4: Say you gotta work ethic questions. I don't know about

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Speaker 4: the all right, coming up with them.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to talk about options. Are they any options?

500
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Speaker 1: What are those options? How might it come to fruition

501
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Speaker 1: at quarterback for the Colts. We'll do it next ninety

502
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Speaker 1: three five one oh seven five fIF looks like.

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Speaker 4: My guy, Fernando Mendozo.

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Speaker 7: After that Ohio State jam with the number one Indiana

505
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Speaker 7: Hoosiers getting to win in a carry of five yards

506
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Speaker 7: for Videll, that was a great game. Congratulations to Kurt Signetti,

507
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Speaker 7: the head coach, and the Indiana Hoosiers, and to you,

508
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Speaker 7: Joe and all Hoosiers fan to do with the well,

509
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Speaker 7: there's I mean, that was fun. That was a big win.

510
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Speaker 7: And what I mean, you know how I feel about

511
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Speaker 7: coach Signetti. What he's done is.

512
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Speaker 5: Nothing short of incredible.

513
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Speaker 4: Yeah, couldn't agree more.

514
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Speaker 7: Guy just wins.

515
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Speaker 5: Google them.

516
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Speaker 3: Now.

517
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Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about Kurt Signetti right now?

518
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Speaker 4: How about that?

519
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: About just an Indiana domination of Monday night football last night?

520
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: The whole pregame about Philip Rivers and then talking about

521
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Speaker 1: Kurtz during the broadcast right there, Let's go Kurtzignetti is

522
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Speaker 1: what do you say about this guy? This is one

523
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Speaker 1: of the great stories we've been around. Kevin, It's amazing,

524
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Speaker 1: said it to yesterday.

525
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Speaker 4: It's the greatest I said after the Orgon game. It's

526
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Speaker 4: greatest coaching job college or pro sports. Funny I was

527
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Speaker 4: talking with someone that's dealt with Kurtzignetti. I would say

528
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Speaker 4: it's fair to say dealt with more of the personal

529
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Speaker 4: human side, not the football coach side, the blue gator

530
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Speaker 4: aid of the press conference side, the the you know,

531
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Speaker 4: obviously demeanor on the sidelines. You know, dealt with him

532
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Speaker 4: a little bit more in a personal human element, in

533
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Speaker 4: a very non in front of the camera way, and

534
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Speaker 4: said he could not be more just down to earth

535
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Speaker 4: and personable and like, you know, respectful, caring, like not

536
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Speaker 4: like I'm the you know what, third highest paid coach

537
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: in college football, like not that ego whatsoever. And so

538
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Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of cool to hear because

539
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Speaker 4: you see so much of the persona of him, and

540
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Speaker 4: you know, it seems almost wwe like at times with

541
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Speaker 4: kurtz Signetti. Here, so boots on the ground for little

542
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Speaker 4: Rose Bull visit yesterday for some members of the athletics department,

543
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Speaker 4: and now they will wait a week from Friday Alabama, Oklahoma,

544
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Speaker 4: and then I you in the Rose Bowl coming up January.

545
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Speaker 3: First.

546
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Speaker 4: Of course four o'clock, right, you have to have the

547
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Speaker 4: sun setting when the fourth quarter starts. Is that why

548
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 4: we kick off at four o'clock with the Rosebull.

549
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Speaker 5: Three thirty or four every year.

550
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Speaker 4: Yeah, gotta love that.

551
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Speaker 1: And I just when you watch in the end, he

552
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Speaker 1: watched him, I'll never like. It's always entertaining to me.

553
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Speaker 1: He's on that sideline, James. He he looks mildly irritated

554
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Speaker 1: at all times.

555
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Speaker 3: Doesn't he.

556
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I put him mildly.

557
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Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying, even if there's just nothing going on,

558
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: he just looks irritated over there.

559
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Speaker 5: I like to smirk. Even after they won that game,

560
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 5: he just smirking like that was the hardest he.

561
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Speaker 4: Tried to hide it. Yeah, when he was walking to

562
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Speaker 4: Fine Ryan Day, Yeah, we got surprised ja Querry this

563
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: pull out before the game on Saturday. I was a

564
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: little surprised by this. Jacob's question for Indiana fans, if

565
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: you were guaranteed a win tomorrow over Ohio State, but

566
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Speaker 4: in exchange, you would not make a Hoops Final Four

567
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Speaker 4: until at least twenty thirty five, would you make that

568
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 4: deal so you win the Big Ten title but no

569
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Speaker 4: Hoops Final Four for another ten years? Seventy percent of

570
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: people said yes, they would take the Big Ten championship.

571
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Speaker 5: I'm not just very surprised as that high.

572
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Speaker 4: I was stunned.

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Speaker 1: That's probably immediate gratification right now though, Right that's the shark,

574
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Speaker 1: that's the shiny, sparkly object right in front of you

575
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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, but I mean this is also pregame, right,

577
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Speaker 4: and I think we've talked about it all along. Obviously

578
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Speaker 4: Saturday Night mattered Indiana. You never want to, you know,

579
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Speaker 4: Big ten championship. It's Ohio State, et cetera, et cetera.

580
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Speaker 5: But you thought I'd been more in the SEC.

581
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Speaker 4: You'd rather have that than thirty two straight years without

582
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Speaker 4: a Final four, at least thirty two according to Jake's

583
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 4: hypothetical here.

584
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Speaker 5: I'm sucked because this is a state that's supposed to

585
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 5: be different for basketball. You guys are liars.

586
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 4: Would you rather win Saturday Night or win the quarterfinal

587
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: game of the Rosebull.

588
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Speaker 5: That's a really good question. Man, Give me the quarterfinal

589
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 5: game because we're staying alive for a national championship, right,

590
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 5: you'd think so, I mean, you can talk about the

591
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 5: scars of maybe not winning.

592
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: And you would beat an SEC team, which might matter

593
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 4: some people.

594
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Speaker 5: I thought I'd been more in the SEC. Kevin, can

595
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 5: you explain to me.

596
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Speaker 4: I know, we don't. People talk about the SEC like

597
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: I thought, in all seriousness, I thought it was important

598
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Speaker 4: for Notre Dame not only to make the national title

599
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 4: last year, but to beat an SEC team on the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and that SEC team being Georgia too.

601
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Speaker 3: I like that.

602
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Speaker 1: But I also think it was important to a lot

603
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Speaker 1: of people who've grown up here and been hoo's your

604
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: fans their whole life. If that Big Den Championship game

605
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: had it been against Penn State or Wisconsin, that'd be great.

606
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: That nobody's going to turn that down and you get

607
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: all fired up and you're still happy. But I think

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Speaker 1: it meant somehow a little bit more that it was

609
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Speaker 1: Ohio State if not Michigan. I think those two teams

610
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: would have been different to play in that championship game.

611
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Speaker 1: Not only are you undefeated, not only are you playing

612
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: in this Big ten championship game, but you're gonna beat

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Speaker 1: either Ohio State or Michigan along the way. I think

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Speaker 1: that would I think who it was made a little

615
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Speaker 1: bit of a difference.

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Speaker 4: Don't you come the final four for thirty two straight years?

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00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 5: Nah, they're a liars. There's no way you. Yes, folks,

618
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 5: this is like when I'm watching Family Feud and they

619
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Speaker 5: say one hundred people we polled, and they give some

620
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: absurd answer. I'm like, forties hundred people.

621
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Speaker 4: We need to.

622
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Speaker 5: Diversify the crowd little bit. Yeah, show me the group,

623
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Speaker 5: because there's no way now I'm going to lean towards

624
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Speaker 5: the younger crowd, perhaps being on Twitter and not suffering

625
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 5: through the previous you know, having many years since I've

626
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: been relevant in men's basketball from my champions standpoint, so nah,

627
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 5: I can't. I can't get with that.

628
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: One thing I want to make sure we mentioned from

629
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Speaker 4: the game on Saturday night is I'm in a text

630
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Speaker 4: chain with definitely some die hard IU fans and they

631
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: brought up one of the bigger compliments they felt on

632
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: Saturday night was the Ohio State And again yesterday, what

633
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: was my thought process pretty much the whole day. I

634
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: use defense, Like, yes, Franana Meidols is going to hoist

635
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: his Heisman trophy on Saturday night, but the Indiana defense

636
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: is what makes them this team. And the fact that

637
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: Ohio State felt the need or have to run a

638
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: trick play in a game that again for Ohio State's purposes,

639
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: like you would think they circle Michigan more or they

640
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: circle this playoff run more and not just like a

641
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: flea flicker or not just you know whatever, you know,

642
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: some sort of like semi trick play, like they run

643
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: this like double pass with you know, some crazy elements

644
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: to it to try and get down the field in

645
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: Indiana because they can't move it normally. With jeremih Smith

646
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: with Carnel Tait with the Heisman finalist Julian's saying they

647
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: couldn't move the football normally down the field, they had

648
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: to revert toroation. Quite the trick play to try and

649
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Speaker 4: do that. You know, that was quite the compliment to

650
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Speaker 4: Brian Haynes and company there. I thought that was a

651
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: great point.

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Speaker 5: Here's one for you. This is from ESPN's Jeremy Fowler says,

653
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Speaker 5: the Philip Rivers work out what the Colts took place

654
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Speaker 5: Monday nights per Source through the Ball. Well, we'll see

655
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Speaker 5: what's next. And I can actually confirm that as well. Yeah,

656
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Speaker 5: I got some trying to do the Source game people.

657
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 5: Just let you know, it's the weirdest thing ever, because

658
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 5: when you reach out to somebody and they give you

659
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: present or pass tense, You're just like, huh, so, but yeah,

660
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 5: apparently this happened last night and they're going to see

661
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: from there. So I guess today is all about figuring

662
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Speaker 5: out the details.

663
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Speaker 4: It's just where you inserted the joke of the grandpa

664
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: woke up after working out a little bit and you

665
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 4: want to see how he feels. I guess so, and like,

666
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: I'm kind of joking, kind of serious though, but it

667
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: sounds like he works out every day.

668
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: And I have heard these stories along the way where

669
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: he's throwing passes of those high school kids all the time.

670
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: I'll at Brett Farva, how he used to do stuff

671
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: like that, and so it sounds like he's not just

672
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: like getting off off the couch like he You mentioned

673
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: that that he's put on full pads at some point

674
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: in time.

675
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 5: He ain't been hit in five years.

676
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: That makes it different.

677
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: I get you, but I'm just still you know, at

678
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: least he shows up in shape, is my point.

679
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 5: I got to see it.

680
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 4: Are you highly entertained by the idea of him starting

681
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: or is there any part of the human element in

682
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: you that's scared for that man's life.

683
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: I think everybody's scared for a forty four year old

684
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: guy that hasn't played for almost time.

685
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: I tell you how you are as a human. If

686
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: you're highly entertained by it.

687
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: I would say, I'm not scared for him because you

688
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 5: have a choice.

689
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: Can you bear both, Kevin? Can you be both? Yeah?

690
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 5: I feel like you should be scared when you don't

691
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 5: have options. He has options. I'm not gonna be scared

692
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 5: for him. You get out there, I want to see

693
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: what happens. Hell, you throw that paycheck at me, I'll

694
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: go out there.

695
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 6: I'll take the bits from the Seattle Defense over under on.

696
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: Market one Market, Peak Bay, or whatever the hell's.

697
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: Gonna be prey.

698
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 5: I might, I might leave this earth, but at least

699
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 5: that check will.

700
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: Daughter before you get on the plane.

701
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: Bro Mark, I don't think we had ever played this

702
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 5: on the air, but around going to interview with uh

703
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: Lobusi the rapper, and they asked him if he will

704
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 5: get into the ring like Davonte Davis. He's like, nah,

705
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 5: it beat me. He was like, with twenty million photeems, No,

706
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 5: don't do that. You wouldn't be alive to spend the money.

707
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Uh coming up in a moment, we will talk a

708
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: little bit more about this crazy situation we find ourselves in.

709
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: The highs and the lows all at once here in Indiana,

710
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: and also Rick Carlisle, the head coach of the Indiana Pacers,

711
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: stops by at nine o'clock. That's all straight ahead at

712
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: ninety three five and one oh seven five the fans.

713
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: The Indiana Pacers now head into a stretch with a

714
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: lot of practice time. I would think, here with just

715
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: two games in the next nine days or so, and

716
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: talk more about it. Rick Carlisle joins us now, coach,

717
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: good morning to you.

718
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: How you doing going fine?

719
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: Big fourth quarter from your top three last night? Some

720
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 4: shot making, certainly as the lead evaporated. I thought, some

721
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: big time hustle plays from the great story that is

722
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: Ethan Thompson. What what did you see change there once

723
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: Sacramento took the lead.

724
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 8: There late, Well, we we button things down defensively.

725
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: That was a big thing.

726
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, a seventeen point defensive quarter in

727
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 8: the fourth was absolutely needed. And right now, you know,

728
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 8: our identity has got to be that we're a defense

729
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 8: first team. There's evidence that were very capable of it.

730
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 8: You know, last eight games, I think we're ranked fourth

731
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 8: and defense in the league. I mean, that's a real

732
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 8: positive thing. You know, offensively, you know, things things come

733
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 8: and go with shot making and this, that and the other.

734
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 8: But uh, you know the defense in the fourth was key.

735
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 8: And then you know Nemhart had a monster game. Uh

736
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 8: Siakam played extremely well, as you know, virtually it seems

737
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 8: like he always does. And then Matturn was was terrific

738
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 8: and so.

739
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 3: Good Win.

740
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 8: Uh got a more or less an off day to

741
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 8: day two days of practice and then hit the Philly rick.

742
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 5: When you look at Andrew Nimharn's career and I'm thinking

743
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 5: back to his rookie season, I believe he had a

744
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 5: game winner against the Lakers at the buzzer. So he's

745
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: made big shots before, but how have you seen him

746
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 5: just continue to grow in those fourth quarters, the big

747
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 5: moments and embrace the challenges that kind of a way

748
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 5: when things get tight.

749
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, fearless player, you know it really is.

750
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 8: And had a you know, had an attitude of just

751
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 8: kind of this moxie when he came in here as

752
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 8: a as a first year player. You know, he was

753
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 8: he was good in in training camp. You know, he's

754
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 8: one of our better defensive players. Was not spectacular offensively,

755
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 8: but we knew that, you know, he had the lineage.

756
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 8: You know, he had the career at Gonzaga. I think

757
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 8: they went to the final game or the final four, whatever, it.

758
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: Was his senior year.

759
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 8: And I didn't even blame in game one that year.

760
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 8: Game two I think we played maybe in Detroit that

761
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 8: we played or something. But he we needed him to

762
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 8: guard I think Kate Cunningham in his rookie year and

763
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 8: he and he came in there and and was terrific

764
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 8: and really solid. And then it became clear that the

765
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 8: thing to do maybe to put him as a secondary

766
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 8: ball handler and a hybrid two guard and a guy

767
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 8: that could take a matchup to start games. And so

768
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 8: you know, we kind of ended up going that direction

769
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 8: in in relatively short order, and that's how it's gone.

770
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 8: Now this year, the role is is extremely different, you know,

771
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 8: being the main guy with the ball, the main guy

772
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 8: taking a matchup. And so one of the challenges has been,

773
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 8: you know, who can we put next to him they

774
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 8: can give us a little ball handling, who is also

775
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 8: a solid defender? Uh, you know, who can who can

776
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 8: make an open shot, you know when when when he's

777
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 8: feeling the heat and getting a lot of extra attention

778
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 8: and so, uh, you know, the irony is Shepherd had

779
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 8: played one of his best games against Denver and then

780
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 8: then he got banged up. And so you know, we're

781
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 8: in Chicago, and you know, we had had Ethan Thompson

782
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 8: on the on the roster for a couple of days,

783
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 8: and I just felt, you know, it's time to give

784
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 8: this guy an early look. And it's a twenty five

785
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 8: or twenty six year old guy, so you know, it's

786
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 8: not like he's your typical first year player. He's been

787
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 8: playing professional basketball for five or six years. He just

788
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 8: he just has a a moxie and a and a

789
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 8: tone about him, you know, where he's just unafraid, looks

790
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 8: like he belongs. And uh, you know, he stepped right

791
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 8: out in the end of the game against Chicago and

792
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 8: Frank it was hard to getting him out of the game,

793
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 8: you know. So, uh, he did well there last night.

794
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: You know, I thought he was was solid again, and so, uh,

795
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: you know that's as you mentioned, that's that's a that's

796
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 3: a really nice story.

797
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 8: And as we move forward, you know, we're going to

798
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 8: keep trying to get guys a little healthier each day

799
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 8: and uh and keeping it keep working on who we.

800
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: Are Rick for those of mind have missed it. Could

801
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: you share on specifically that Friday game with Chicago. I

802
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: don't know if maybe you found out Shepherd's status for

803
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: the game, but you know, Ethan Thompson was originally I

804
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 4: think drilling was some of your developmental guys over at

805
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: the United Center, and then you realize what it was

806
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: going to look like for you that night and that

807
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: he was going to play important minutes for you, and

808
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: you had to make a call over there to say, hey,

809
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: we got to get Ethan Thompson off the floor. He's

810
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 4: going to play some pivotal minutes for the big league,

811
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: Uh tonight. How how unique is that? And I guess

812
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: what does that say about? You know, this kid who

813
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 4: just made his NBA debut a few nights earlier.

814
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 8: It's it's it's certainly not a typical year in a

815
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 8: lot of ways. And we knew, we knew Shepherd.

816
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: Wasn't gonna play. He wasn't on the trip.

817
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 8: You know, the question was you know, uh, the plan

818
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 8: was to start Matthews, who had been playing well, and

819
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 8: then you know, kind of go from there. And it

820
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 8: seemed to me like the best thing to do would

821
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 8: be to start Matthews and then you know, we'll toss uh,

822
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 8: we'll toss Ethan in there. But you know what happened

823
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 8: was we had some of our interns come up to Chicago.

824
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 8: You know, we're working on getting Quinton Jackson back. One

825
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 8: of the things he needs to do is is play.

826
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 8: And so after shoot around on Friday, a group of

827
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 8: low minute guys and interns, we're gonna play. And you know,

828
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 8: that's Jalen Peter, That's that's Quinton Jackson. I think Ethan

829
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 8: assumed he was part of the part of that group too,

830
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 8: which you know, which is good, you know, and look,

831
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 8: if he had played, it probably wouldn't have you know,

832
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 8: may not have made that big a difference. But as

833
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 8: we're on the bus headed back to the hotel after

834
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 8: shooting around, you know, I called over there to see

835
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 8: if he was playing, because my plan was, you know,

836
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 8: not going to be to start him, but to get

837
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 8: him in the game pretty early. And somebody said, yeah,

838
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 8: they know, they just started playing. I said, well, look

839
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 8: pull him out because he's probably gonna play. He's gonna

840
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 8: play minutes and I don't know how many.

841
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: And so they pulled him out, you know, So that

842
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: was that was kind of it. But that's that's how

843
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: this year has kind of been. There's been some unique

844
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: aspects to it. Challenges slash opportunities, and so you know,

845
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: one of.

846
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 8: The one of the challenges is the injuries. And then

847
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 8: a great example of opportunity is is Ethan Thompson being

848
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 8: the right place at the right time.

849
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: Pass one four of six Again, as Ra Carlisle laid out,

850
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 4: there a little bit of time off the Philly in

851
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: Washington coming up on a Friday and Sunday, but not

852
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: a ton of game action here over the next ten

853
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: days or so. Coach, your next win will be one

854
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: thousand for your career. I think you'd become I believe

855
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: it's the eleventh coach in NBA history to reach the

856
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: Comma mark, if you will. Does that matter to you

857
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 4: at all? Does that mean anything to you? That number?

858
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I you know, I it alwayst

859
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: feels like it's the best not to talk about things

860
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: like this and just and just try to keep going,

861
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: you know, but look, it just it just means I've

862
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: I've been very blessed over the years with a lot

863
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: of great situations, great ownership, terrific players, a very supportive

864
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 3: family all that, but I I you know, I don't

865
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: want to put the horse before the card. I mean,

866
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: this year is a very good example of.

867
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 8: How, you know, winning one NBA game is extremely difficult,

868
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 8: you know, and when you when and when you get

869
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 8: extraordinary circumstances as we've had this year, you know, putting

870
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 8: the chicken before the egg, or the egg before the

871
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 8: chicken or whatever it is, just doesn't just doesn't feel right.

872
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 5: Rick Uh. To look at other guys in your roster

873
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: stepped up Garrison Matthews. I mean, the guy is an

874
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 5: all out shooter. How have you seen m perhaps find

875
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 5: his rhythm as of leat on it early on, you know,

876
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 5: once in the ball as well. But it seems like

877
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 5: he's gotten comfortable just being integrated into this offense with

878
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 5: obviously new teammates.

879
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: Well, you know, he's he's a guy that's a gunslinger.

880
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: He's gonna he's gonna play his game.

881
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 8: He knows who he is, he knows what's what gets

882
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 8: him on an NBA roster and what gets him on

883
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 8: the floor. The challenge was that you know, he he

884
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 8: had he been I believe the last cut on New

885
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 8: York it was down to him and Landry Shammot, and

886
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 8: the word we got was that, you know.

887
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: He had shot the ball as well or maybe even

888
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: a little bit better than Shaman, but there was just

889
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: you know, the tiebreaker was just you know, the ultimate

890
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: fit with the team.

891
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 8: And all that kind of stuff. I don't really know,

892
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 8: that doesn't really matter. But he was sitting out, you know,

893
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 8: for probably the better part of a month, and you know,

894
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 8: we went through four or five different guys before we

895
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 8: got to him, and in fact, in fact, you know,

896
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 8: we had the one workout in Dallas where we worked

897
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 8: out three guys. Eventually all three guys ended up on

898
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 8: the roster. None of the three are on are on

899
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 8: the club anymore. And so we were cycling onto another

900
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 8: group of two or three guys and we thought we

901
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 8: had a group of three that we're going to come

902
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 8: in for a workout, but one of them was handed

903
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 8: overseas another one had some personal things going on, and

904
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 8: the timing wasn't right, and so you know, Garrison was

905
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 8: the only guy available. So we brought him in and

906
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 8: we needed shooting, we needed space, and the task was

907
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 8: to help him get shape, you know, and so Lloyd

908
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 8: Pierce did a really great job just you know, starting

909
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 8: kind of from scratch. You know, you can be at

910
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 8: home and you can be working out on your own

911
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 8: and and that kind of stuff, but you know, it's

912
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 8: it's it's virtually impossible to simulate NBA practices in NBA games,

913
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 8: And so it took, you know, it took a good

914
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 8: four or five days to get him to where you know,

915
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 8: he felt like his legs were there, et cetera, et cetera.

916
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: His first game was at Cleveland Whenever. That was two

917
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: and a half weeks ago. You know, he went in

918
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: the game, he got some clean shots off, nothing went in,

919
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: but the signs were good, and it kind of went

920
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: from there. And so when he got to the end

921
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: of his first ten day and this we're talking about

922
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: a ten day team injury hardship contract, I mean, it's

923
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: like a whole sentence, like you got to say a

924
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: whole sentence to describe what it is. You know, you know,

925
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: he hadn't made he hadn't made a lot of shots yet,

926
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: but it just felt to us like, you know, he

927
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: had done the work and he was close, and so, uh,

928
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: you know, we brought him back. In the first game,

929
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: he uh, he got it going and then you know,

930
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: last night he hit some big shots, had a four

931
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: point play, et cetera. And with him, you know, he's

932
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 3: a guy you got to count for on a scouting report.

933
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't. You don't account for him. I mean,

934
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: I think in.

935
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 8: One or two years, in the last four or five

936
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 8: he's led the league in four point plays, et cetera,

937
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 8: et cetera.

938
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: So an easy guy to like. You know, he's just

939
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: he's he's gritty, he's he's kind of you know who

940
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: we are, you know right now as a team. And

941
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: so we're we're happy to have him on board.

942
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 5: So you talked about bringing in guys for workouts, and

943
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 5: the Colts are have actually brought in Philip Rivers, forty

944
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 5: four year old quarterback in for a workout. So and

945
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 5: you're coaching or playing read do you remember the oldest

946
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 5: player you played with or coached?

947
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: Oh?

948
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: Boy, trying to think, well, you know, Dirk was the

949
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: oldest I think that I coached that he was. He

950
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: was forty, you know, in his twenty first year. Look,

951
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: Jason Kidd was thirty eight when we won the championship

952
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: with him, and and there have been others, you know,

953
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: and you know, James Johnson I think was thirty seven

954
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, there there's been there's been guys like that.

955
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 8: But but I will say this, do not underestimate change Stiking.

956
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's pretty clear that he's the

957
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 8: best coach of quarterbacks, you know, really anybody's seen in

958
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 8: the last several years. I mean, what he's done with

959
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 8: a whole long list of guys, and so to me,

960
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 8: the guys, the guys that master, I think he's done

961
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 8: an incredible, amazing job this year. There's a long way

962
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 8: to go in their season, you know, I know, things

963
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 8: things can things can look can look dreary times, but uh,

964
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 8: there's an upbeat, upbeat fan base, you know, super upbeat

965
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 8: franchise added the Pacers and uh and we're really told

966
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 8: for them.

967
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 4: That's Rick Carlisle and Pacers have one four of six.

968
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: They beat Sacramento last night. They've got Philly coming up

969
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: this weekend. He's with us here on the Paylosslockers Hotline.

970
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 4: Did I hear you were at the Purdue game on Saturday?

971
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I was.

972
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 8: I was there with with Sonny Beck from Beck's Hybrids,

973
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 8: which was which is a c company. Sonny and and

974
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 8: uh and his uh his operation are supporters of driving Dish, which.

975
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: We're grateful for.

976
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 8: And he invited me to a game a long time ago,

977
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 8: and so yeah, I went up there and had amazing

978
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 8: seats one an atmosphere at the I had the privilege

979
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 8: of sitting with Sunny on my right and Brian Cardinal

980
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 8: on my left. Okay, so there's two living legends now.

981
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 8: Cardinal not only not only is he a for due legend,

982
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 8: but Cardinal played for US on the twenty eleven championship.

983
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: Team in Dallas. And I'm going to tell you a.

984
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 8: Short story about Cardinals. So in game six out we

985
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 8: had we had played the series in the finals. In

986
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 8: the fourth game, we had to make some adjustments to

987
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 8: our rotation because of matchups, and so we started playing

988
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 8: Brian Cardinal over another more you know, more established household

989
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 8: name type player. Well, Cardinal was playing effectively. You know,

990
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 8: his game is not the most beautiful game in the world,

991
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 8: but when you look at his production and what happens

992
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 8: as a winning player, the guy's pretty amazing what he

993
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 8: did in his career. So we won game We won

994
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 8: game four to tie the series. We won Game five.

995
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 8: In game six at Miami. We're up three to two

996
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 8: with a chance to close out the series. Whisky gets

997
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 8: his second foul like five minutes into the game, and

998
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 8: so boom, here comes Cardinals. Now the score is we're

999
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 8: either down five or down seven. I forget which. Dirk

1000
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 8: had had a rough shot making night to start the

1001
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 8: game Vegas two fouls.

1002
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: Cardinal comes in the game. We go from let's say

1003
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 3: it was down five at the end of the first quarter,

1004
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: we were up seven. Okay, we go plus twelve with

1005
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: Cardinal in the game. Dirk comes back in the game.

1006
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: Now Dirk is continuing it's continuing to have trouble making shots.

1007
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: So we go. We get into halftime and Cardinal of

1008
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: Dirt were really good friends. In Cardinal's seat is right

1009
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: next to Dirk's in the locker room, and as we

1010
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: walk in at the Koche staff, Cardinal was in there.

1011
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 8: And the locker rooms pretty quiet. But we still had

1012
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 8: a two point lead, and Cardinals sane, this is great, man,

1013
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 8: and he was calling Dirty Dirty Dirty Dirk was Dirt,

1014
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 8: Dirk's uh nickname. He goes dirty, this is great. You

1015
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 8: got all the misses out, bro, He's got to keep shooting.

1016
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 8: This is gonna be great. This is gonna be.

1017
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: Awesome, man, and so and so we we come in

1018
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: and we we end up setting up a play to

1019
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: try to get Dirk an open shot with JJ Ray

1020
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: has set a pin down for him. He comes off,

1021
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: hits the shot in the second half. He may have

1022
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: missed one shot, but he was great. But the Cardinals,

1023
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals impact on that championship is is always going to

1024
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: be overlooked. But he's He's one of the most resourceful

1025
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: players I've ever been around. And when you walk around

1026
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: the Mackie Mackie Center with him, you know, the guy,

1027
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: it's like it's like walking around with Tom Brady, you know.

1028
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just uh everybody, everybody knows and loves him,

1029
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: and uh and and and I certainly know why.

1030
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 4: That some great, great stuff, absolute Purdue legend. Brian Cardinal.

1031
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: We'll end with this coach, and as always, we appreciate

1032
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: the time I did have to chuckle a couple of

1033
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: games ago. You said afterwards in regards to timeouts that

1034
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: it would be great if you could buy timeouts like

1035
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: vows and a wheel of fortune. Are you more wheel

1036
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: of Fortune? Are you more Jeopardy?

1037
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 8: Oh?

1038
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 3: Gosh, I like both but.

1039
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, those timeouts, you're not out of timeouts,

1040
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 8: they just they just have a price, and so you

1041
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 8: gotta just got to decide if it's worth it to

1042
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 8: take to take one and spend a you know, a

1043
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 8: technical free throw work give the team the possession back

1044
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 8: as I described after the game. And look, I don't

1045
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 8: mean to make fun of it or make light of

1046
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 8: it or anything like that, but if the other team

1047
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 8: already has the ball and you feel like your guys

1048
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 8: need you know, a minute, fifteen seconds, you know, for

1049
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 8: whatever reason, maybe it's maybe maybe you just don't have

1050
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 8: a lot of guys left on your roster that night,

1051
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 8: and they you just feel like they need a little

1052
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 8: bit of a break to finish the game.

1053
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: Whatever, you know.

1054
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 8: If it's already the other team's ball, it's it's one

1055
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 8: technical free throw. It's not it's not the end of

1056
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 8: the world, you know. But I don't like doing it.

1057
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 8: I only do it when it's when I feel it's necessary.

1058
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 8: We didn't do it at all last year or the

1059
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 8: year before. I don't think.

1060
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: Uh, these have been extraordinary circumstances this year. So sometimes

1061
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: sometimes it happens like that.

1062
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: Picture an R. S. T. L N E and you

1063
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 4: up there getting some letters there and the end of

1064
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 4: will Fortune. I'm always debating what I would go with

1065
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: their c D. Would you go with Val?

1066
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 5: Would you would gotta go Val? I feel like you

1067
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: gotta go Valve, gotta.

1068
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 3: Go Val with this r S well, some of them,

1069
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: you know, there's like on Instagram, there's there's some of

1070
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: these things where people are making the wrong guesses at

1071
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: what the what the puzzle says, and some of the

1072
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 3: stuff is you know, it transcends, you know, the question

1073
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: of which value you would buy. Let's just put it

1074
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 3: that way.

1075
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 4: I need a documentary on this, say, the Least Pacers

1076
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: night off tonight, so I guess we can watch a

1077
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 4: little Wheel Fortune, a little Jeopardy. They'll be back Friday

1078
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: six ers and Sunday afternoon. They've got the wizards inside

1079
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 4: of gamebridge Field House. Coach, thank you as always. We'll

1080
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 4: talk to you next week

1081
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: All right, guys, pack caure