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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. I'm gonna take a moment step

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Speaker 2: away from all the Charlie Kirk assassination conversation. And there

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. And the

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Speaker 2: House Republicans had their meeting today. I want to share

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Speaker 1: It is that they proceed.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to discuss going to influence policy, it's

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Speaker 4: Enough is enough.

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of your performative BS that is putting.

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Speaker 1: Oh dang, well, there's a.

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Speaker 2: There's a take Tony Katz and I say, hello, Tony

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Speaker 2: Same thing with Sida Talib And since Democrats tripped the

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Speaker 2: your host. What are we talking about here? What possibly

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Speaker 1: Everyone needs to be a grown up.

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Speaker 2: The story I wanted to share was this from Kathy Hokeel,

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Speaker 6: Was this discussion about Donald Trump inserting himself into our

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Speaker 1: And this is now where we're at, just as a

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Speaker 1: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you. What I'm here to tell

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Speaker 5: Good morning everybody, and let me start by addressing the

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Speaker 4: Assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, first and foremost, my prayers are with Charlie and

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Speaker 5: Now turning to the work of the House Republicans. Over

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Speaker 5: the working Families tax cuts. These are the most pro growth,

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Speaker 5: The legislation also grows small businesses and manufacturing. We incentivize

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Speaker 2: If the Republicans want to talk about lower prices, they

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Speaker 2: Moved to a Congressman from Wisconsin who was a small

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Speaker 7: Major small business wins in our Working Families Tax cuts.

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Speaker 7: Prior to running for Congress, my wife and I ran

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Speaker 1: Difficult to be successful.

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Speaker 7: Under Joe Biden's administration, small businesses were crushed with an

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Speaker 7: with the leadership of President Trump and House Republicans, the

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Speaker 4: The relief they deserve.

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Speaker 7: One of the most important victories is making the one

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Speaker 7: eighty five thousand employers will benefit. This tax cut allows

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Speaker 4: So much more. Now concentration quick impacts.

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Speaker 2: The one nine nine A would allow taxpayers other than

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Speaker 2: I have it through some searching. So the point is, look,

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what we should be doing. That say, that

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Speaker 1: Something they can hang their hat on. Then it was

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Speaker 4: We still mourn the loss of Charlie Kirk and trinybody.

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Speaker 8: That watched Friday Night when his widow, Erica spoke so

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Speaker 4: At eighteen years old. It's an idea, and that idea

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Speaker 8: And anybody who thought they were going to snuff out

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Speaker 4: And in that momentum, that inspiration is only going to grow.

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Speaker 8: But his assassination also gives us a moment to reflect

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Speaker 8: Important moment for the media as well, because when you

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Speaker 4: Think that that's a call to take.

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Speaker 2: Action, absolutely correct, something we've been discussed here for a

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Speaker 2: I meant it, I will say it again. I simply

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Speaker 1: He's a threat. We have to stop the threat. We're

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Speaker 2: And then they applied it to all First it was

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Speaker 2: But I was happy to hear Representative Emmer make that

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Speaker 1: Of Charlie Kirk, and no one thinks it's over, do they.

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Speaker 1: I'll get into that. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So the Republicans come to the microphone and they have

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. And I

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Speaker 1: But that commentary falls flat. And it falls flat.

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Speaker 2: Because while I do believe he's saying it in earnest right,

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I That.

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Speaker 1: Isn't the thing. He has to come out and say.

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Speaker 1: What happened here is despicable and wrong.

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Speaker 2: In anybody who believes anything I do, who would engage

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Speaker 2: Kirk is wrong, terrible, despicable. There's no place for you

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Speaker 1: The answer that would go a long way. When you

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Speaker 2: Say no, but it isn't addressing the subject. And Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. I wanted

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you all for being here. It has been

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Speaker 4: a difficult week in America. We've addressed it many times

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Speaker 4: It's shaken the nation, and I think everybody can recognize

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Speaker 4: I've described it as feeling very much like a dark

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Speaker 4: To honor his memory by doing what Charlie did, and

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Speaker 4: that is encouraging the free exchange of ideas, the free

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Speaker 4: Charlie was marked by. That's how he described himself and

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Speaker 4: He followed the tea reachings of Jesus himself, and not

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Speaker 4: And it's been mentioned, but in his after his passing,

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Speaker 4: I joined vigils, I think three in the last few days.

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Speaker 2: The let's a Speaker of the House, Johnson, letting you

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Speaker 2: You killed him. People aren't supposed to notice what did

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Speaker 2: you kill him for?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: He believed in God, and here's a political party over

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Speaker 2: here's our policies, and here's what those big government people

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Speaker 2: Of course this is happening. That's why I wanted to

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Speaker 4: who defended free speech in the courts for a couple

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Speaker 4: of decades. We defended religious freedom and speech that some

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Speaker 4: people deem to be inappropriate. Look, in America, it's a

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Speaker 4: very important part of our tradition that we do not

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Speaker 4: This is a conservative principle and certainly an American principle.

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Speaker 4: We do not censor and silence dis favorite viewpoints. People

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Speaker 4: in America are allowed to say crazy things. Now that's said,

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Speaker 4: if I'm an employer or I'm a government agency and

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Speaker 4: I have someone in my employee who is online celebrating

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Speaker 4: the heinous murder of an innocent person, a young husband

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Speaker 4: and father, I can make the decision that they don't

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Speaker 4: deserve to work for me, they shouldn't represent my company

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Speaker 4: or my agency, and I have every right to do that.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's appropriate. That's not the government censoring speech.

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Speaker 4: That's personal behavior and decorum, and you have a right

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Speaker 4: to enforce that. So I don't think it's a violation

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Speaker 4: of core principles for people to have appropriate measures taken

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Speaker 4: when they act like crazy people online. And that's up

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Speaker 4: to the employers and these private businesses and the people

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Speaker 4: who make those decisions. That's not something that Congress is

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Speaker 4: involved in. But I mean, I think all of that

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Speaker 4: is intellectually consistent and will continue to defend it. Money

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Speaker 4: the political.

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Speaker 1: World to lower the temperature, pulled down the rhetoric.

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Speaker 8: And not use words like the pole.

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Speaker 6: How does it himself?

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Speaker 1: A perfect tenocrats oftentimes the people and he if you

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Speaker 1: urge him, you advise him to.

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Speaker 4: Camp down the radia. The president has been called the

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Speaker 4: most despicable names by the people on the.

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Speaker 1: Left for a long long time.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to give you the catalog. It would

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Speaker 4: be this thing. We need one of those jakeem jefferies

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Speaker 4: and note books to put up here and go through

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Speaker 4: with you with all that. Look, there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: heated rhetoric all around, and what I'm trying to advance

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Speaker 4: here is this idea that we can have vigorous policy debates.

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Speaker 4: That is the legacy of Charlie Kirk. He loved the debate.

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Speaker 2: I gotta objects here to what the speaker is saying,

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Speaker 2: because he's being way too nice this idea. Why doesn't

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Speaker 2: Trump tone down the rhetoric? The response is, you killed

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. He was speaking, he was he was engaging,

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Speaker 2: and you shot him in the neck. And you have

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Speaker 2: people cheering in saying they'll do it again. Let the

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Speaker 2: left tone.

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Speaker 1: Down the rhetoric.

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Speaker 2: Stop thinking of President Trump, you did this, and if

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Speaker 2: you are insulted by the concept of you did this,

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Speaker 2: then let us at least agree that this was somebody

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Speaker 2: who clearly associated with ideas and ideologies and hatreds and bigotries,

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Speaker 2: associated with part and parcel love, and endorsed by the

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Speaker 2: political left. So until we have that on his conversation,

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Speaker 2: don't you come to me talking about what President Trump

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Speaker 2: has to do. Joe Biden never tamped down a rhetoric

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Speaker 2: when he said every day that Trump was a threat

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Speaker 2: to democracy, leading to the assassination attempted Butler Pennsylvania. And yes,

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Speaker 2: he is part of the responsibility of that, just like

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Speaker 2: the mainstream media and others who begged for the lone

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Speaker 2: wolf to go out there and kill him.

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Speaker 1: They begged people to find a way to.

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Speaker 2: Take out the then candidate and now President of the

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Speaker 2: United States Donald Trump. Look at them, look at their house.

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Speaker 2: Don't say we all have to come together. They have

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Speaker 2: to come to us and say this does have to end,

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Speaker 2: and then we can wholeheartedly agree. But until that moment

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Speaker 2: get bent. That's what I would like to see from

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Speaker 2: the speaker. I'm never gonna see that. I know I'm

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Speaker 2: never gonna see that, and you know you're never gonna see.

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Speaker 1: That as well. But I make the point through it

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Speaker 1: that you simply cannot listen to this argument. Why isn't

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Speaker 1: the president doing more? What do you mean, why isn't

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Speaker 1: the president doing more? What else? What is in this

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Speaker 1: his fault? What in this is something he has somehow

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Speaker 1: done improperly? And the answer is zero.

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Speaker 2: He didn't call for anybody's killing, He didn't gin up

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Speaker 2: anybody's killing.

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Speaker 1: This happened.

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Speaker 2: And you're not gonna what about is of us in

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. And that's the way I

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Speaker 2: would like to hear him discuss it. That's the way

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Speaker 2: I'd like to hear him share it and engage it.

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Speaker 2: I think that would be the most valuable thing that

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Speaker 2: could happen, just that clear and direct kind of talk,

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Speaker 2: because it is true.

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Speaker 1: The right doesn't have to go to the political left

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Speaker 1: to say, please stop killing us. The left has to

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Speaker 1: come to America and say, we can't go about killing

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Speaker 1: people we disagree with. And you know where that's happening

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Speaker 1: nowhere those words we can't kill people we disagree with.

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Speaker 1: That's not what we do, that isn't who we are.

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Speaker 1: We don't do that here.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody on the political left said such a thing.

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Speaker 2: People on the political right have and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear about. Well, there's political violence on both sides.

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Speaker 2: You shot at Steve Scalise, you shot at the president,

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Speaker 2: you assassinated Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: And there is nobody, by the way, on the political right,

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Speaker 1: and nobody.

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Speaker 2: In my line of work, if they are honest, nobody,

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Speaker 2: no one who thinks that this is over. There's nobody

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Speaker 2: on this side of the aisle, in this business, behind

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Speaker 2: this microphone like yours, truly, not a single other person

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Speaker 2: who listens to listen to who thinks that somehow this

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Speaker 2: is one and done with.

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Speaker 1: Charlie kirk not if they're honest.

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Speaker 2: They have opened up the season of violent attack, and

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Speaker 2: everybody is asking themselves, what do they do about events

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Speaker 2: in the future, How do they handle events in the future,

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Speaker 2: How do they handle safe insecurity in the future. Should

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Speaker 2: they do the events in the future? All of them,

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Speaker 2: all of them are saying exactly that, and.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's going to come up with their own answer. Me.

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Speaker 1: I'm keeping on, keeping on because I didn't know there

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Speaker 1: was another way to do things. That's just my take.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So while I'll always note the smartiness and the political

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Speaker 2: two facedness multifacedness of people like Pete Budha Judge, the

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Speaker 2: former Secretary of Transportation, who was silent while Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: was not in his right mind not cable running the country,

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Speaker 2: and only now is saying I don't think Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: should have run for reelection again. My god, smarty. It's

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Speaker 2: like Kamala Harris's book where she's like, in retrospect, it

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Speaker 2: was reckless for Joe Biden to run again.

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Speaker 1: You knew he wasn't okay.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you gather the cabinet and invoked the twenty fifth,

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you care about the country more? Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. When it

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Speaker 2: comes to them, I have absolutely no quarter.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Senator Joe Manchin, the former senator

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Speaker 1: from West Virginia talking about Biden.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he spoke out about Biden before. He has

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Speaker 2: said things. He had to leave the party. They ran

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Speaker 2: him out of the party. So when he speaks, I

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Speaker 2: wish he would have been even clearer, but he at

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Speaker 2: least made an effort. He has a book called Dead

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Speaker 2: Center Defense of common Sense. You know, one day I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna have to get into this conversation of it's just

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Speaker 2: common sense. Common sense is not a political philosophy. It's

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Speaker 2: not common sense is emotion. It is it is the

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Speaker 2: idea of here's what we do as well. It's common

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Speaker 2: sense is also based on It has to be based

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Speaker 2: on rationality, and it has to be based on theory.

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Speaker 2: You cannot have a country based on common sense because

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Speaker 2: wait till you get progressives in there. You think that's

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Speaker 2: common sense.

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Speaker 1: But to them it is.

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Speaker 2: This is why you have to elect based on philosophy

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Speaker 2: and based on policy, not based on emotions or whether

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Speaker 2: or not.

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Speaker 1: You think they're a nice guy, Give a damn if

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Speaker 1: they're nice.

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Speaker 2: I only care if they engage the policy that allows

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Speaker 2: me the maximum.

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Speaker 1: Amount of liberty and I get left alone. I'm not

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Speaker 1: interested in. If I want emotions, I'll go on Jade

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Speaker 1: eight or Farmers Only. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I have never been on an online dating service. I

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Speaker 2: never had to, I know. Sorry, So I did the

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Speaker 2: old schirl school away. I met her in a bar,

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Speaker 2: which is actually a true story. But if we're telling

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Speaker 2: the story honestly, she picked me up in a bar,

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Speaker 2: she will tell it as I picked her up. But

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Speaker 2: who you gonna believe me or that perfect woman? No, honestly,

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Speaker 2: in this case, I'm one hundred percent accurate, and she

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Speaker 2: doesn't have it right. My wife is spectacular. That's not

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Speaker 2: the story. So in this book, Joe Mansion is talking

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Speaker 2: about one of the swing boats on build Beck Better right,

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Speaker 2: and how Biden was beating him up, and like Joe Manchon,

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Speaker 2: the country needs you. And when the most powerful man

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Speaker 2: in the world is putting the weight of the world

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Speaker 2: on you, it causes you to pause. I took a

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Speaker 2: deep breath and I grabbed his arm. Mister President the

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Speaker 2: country needs you too. And then he followed up with

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Speaker 2: the political incompetence of his staff was staggering.

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Speaker 1: No kidding, we know.

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Speaker 2: I mean Karin John Pierre was the face of your administration.

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Speaker 2: Kate Bettenfield, Jensaki. These people didn't have a clue. Jensaki

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Speaker 2: at least came from the Obama day. She was supposed

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Speaker 2: to get something by Osmosis. No, this wasn't even the

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Speaker 2: B team. This was you know, it's like my life

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Speaker 2: on the D List. Remember Kathy Griffin was funny. These

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Speaker 2: were DP players, all of them. But I will let

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Speaker 2: Mansion hit on Joe Biden. He has earned some opportunity

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Speaker 2: to do that without our giving him grief for it.

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Speaker 2: Find everything at Tonycotts dot com tomorrow. Everyone, take care