1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: People over there. 4 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: At ABC are reporting that Iran may be activating sleeper 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: cells outside the country. 6 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: No, is that right? Sleeper cells? Huh? Well, I guess. 7 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: That means that these cells existed long before the United 8 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: States and Israel engaged the attack. I guess Iran has 9 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: been a threat for far longer then. Maybe some people 10 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: in the wook right a political left realize, I, for one, 11 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: am shocked. You are not, because you're a normal person. 12 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: Tony Katz. That is me. 13 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: By the way, Tony Katz today. Good to be here, 14 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. 15 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 3: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com, 16 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: live streaming on the YouTube, on the Twitter X, on 17 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: the Facebook, on LinkedIn. Just look for me and you 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: will find this fantastic show. We know that the Iranians 19 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: have put in a new leader. This new leader is 20 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: the son of the Ayatola. We know that he is 21 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: a hardliner. We know that he is well entrenched with 22 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Court. 23 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: Most de bah kahmani m oj t a Ba. 24 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: He is the new Supreme Leader, which means he has 25 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: to go because in order for any of this to 26 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: be successful in this attack on Iran, there can be 27 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: no remnants of the Iatola, the Isatolas family, or anything 28 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: like it in power. They simply cannot be a part 29 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: of the equation. We know that right now America is 30 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: taking a look at oil. 31 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: Prices that are through the roof. 32 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: We know that over the weekend we saw maybe it 33 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 3: was Friday, and it ended this way, one hundred and twenty 34 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: dollars a barrel on the West Texas crew never mind 35 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: the brend crew, and there were just pennies separating them. 36 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: The Brench crewed, which comes out of the oceans. 37 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: Usually like three, four or five dollars within that range 38 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: higher than the West Texas crewed per barrel. 39 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: This was within pennies. 40 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: We saw it over one hundred dollars, well, cracking one 41 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: hundred at some moments. 42 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: Just below one hundred bucks. 43 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: President has spoken out against this and said it was 44 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: a small price to pay short term oil prices, wrote 45 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: the President on truth social which will drop rapidly when 46 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: the destruction of the Iran nuclear threat is over, is 47 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: a very small price to pay for USA and world 48 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: safety and peace. Only fools would think differently, he added 49 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: in all caps to let you know he was serious. Well, 50 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: you got to go out there and sell that, mister President. 51 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: You got to go out there and explain it to people. 52 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: And it's very hard to sell something to people when 53 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: the only thing they're hearing is the Tucker Meghan Candace, 54 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: Dave Smith set saying this is a forever. 55 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: War and Israel's leading us into war? God, is that dumb? Now? 56 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that I'm clear about something. 57 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: It is a ridiculous argument that I'm more than happy 58 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: to counter. 59 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: With FAC's logic and reason. 60 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: Do you think that Israel needed to drag like it 61 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: could drag Donald Trump into war if there weren't already 62 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: other threats out there? No, Israel has been discussing the 63 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: threat that is Iran for years, even when other nations 64 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: didn't want to discuss it, because it's Israel that was 65 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: constantly under threat and other nations not realizing that the 66 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: threat was coming to them. And now I have the 67 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: conversation of sleeper cells. The US has intercepted encrypted communications 68 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: believed to have originated in Iran that may serve as 69 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: a quote operational trigger unquote for sleeper assets. The alert, 70 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: which was reviewed by ABC, cites preliminary signal analysis of 71 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: a transmission likely of Iranian origin, Yes to terrorist regime, 72 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: to terrorist organization supporting other terrorist organizations engaging an act 73 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: of terrorism against the United States, and anybody who might 74 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: be against them. Oh, let's just call them Israel. No wonder, 75 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: We both have a very very keen interest in taking 76 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: out the Iranian regime. And only the ridiculous person who 77 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: refuses to recognize reality would say this is ridiculous, this 78 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: is preposterous. This is just a forever war. Well, there 79 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: are no sleep or cells. There is no proof of this. 80 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: I take you now into the flashback. How do I 81 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: How do I do this praductional landing? I gotta do 82 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: this full Wayne's World style? 83 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah right? 84 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: Or is it more like is it that? No, it's 85 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: not like that. You sound like you're on a video 86 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: game when you do that. 87 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: That's true. I thought Batman flashbacks right. 88 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: Anyway, this was all of like six seven months ago. 89 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: This was Tucker Carlson on his show talking to Ted Cruz. 90 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Now you'll remember that. 91 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: Interview because Ted Cruz didn't know what how many people 92 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: lived in Iran. 93 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: You want to go to war with this country. You 94 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: want to go to war with them? You don't even 95 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: know how people live there. I don't even know. 96 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 3: No, you could do that. It's like totally preposterous to me. 97 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: I don't even make sense to me. I don't even 98 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: understand why that is. 99 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: That is my Tucker impression. That's not bad. It's not great. 100 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: It's not bad. 101 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: Like you get the general idea, I could do better. 102 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: I'm no rich, little rich, little reference. Dear lord. The 103 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: average age of the audience is ninety two thousand years old. 104 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: Tucker is interviewing Ted Cruz. This is how the conversation went. 105 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: But I just want to pull that thread because it's 106 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: so important. I voted for Donald Trump. I can't paign 107 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: for Donald Trump. He's our president and won in the 108 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: custom of a war. So if Iran, if there's evidence 109 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: that Iran paid hitman to kill Donald Trump and is 110 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: currently doing that, where's that? What are you even talking? 111 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: I've never heard that before. Okay, where's the evidence? Who 112 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: are these people? Why haven't they been arrested? Why are 113 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: we not at war with Iran? That's a great question 114 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 4: to ask. How do you know that that's true? 115 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 5: We know that it's true because we have been told 116 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: that by the military and our intelligence community for the 117 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: last two years. We meaning who Congress has in the public. 118 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 5: I mean I had multiple testimonies. I can send you test. 119 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: We know the names of the people are where this 120 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: happened or what they tried to do to kill Trump. 121 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: We do not. 122 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 5: We have not apprehended an Iranian hit man trying to 123 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: kill him. We know that Iran is trying to do 124 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 5: so in the United States. 125 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: Yes, And by the way, like Iran, what seems like 126 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: a huge headline and you're acting like everyone knows this. 127 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know that Iran. 128 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: Put out a whole video about murdering Trump, right, but 129 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: I've never heard evidence that they are hitmen in the 130 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: United States, I mean, trying to kill Trump. Right now, 131 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: we should like have a nationwide dragdad on this, and 132 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: we should attack Iran immediately if that's true. 133 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Is that right? 134 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: We should attack Iran immediately, if it's true that there 135 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: are people out there trying to assassinate the presidents of 136 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: the United States. Okay, this is from the BBC, although 137 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: you can find it in any news outlet. Pakistani man 138 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: found guilty in i Ran backed plot to kill US politicians, 139 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 3: as if Merchant is his name. A forty seven year 140 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: old hired a hitman in New York to kill American 141 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: officials and targeted US President Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. Tuta, 142 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: you think we're surprised by sleeper cells. You didn't know this, Tucker. 143 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Now I'm going to get into a whole conversation about Tucker. 144 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: I want to be clear. 145 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: I will not listen to him complain about how he's treated. 146 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: Tucker, you did this to yourself. This is the conversation 147 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: you wanted to have. 148 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: We're more than welcome to have it. You're the one 149 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: embarrassing yourself. You're the one who is shameful in your nonsense, 150 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: in your falsehoods, in my god, a bad weekend of 151 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: being shown how I believe the word would be hypocritical. 152 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: You are contradicting yourself almost by the day. The problem 153 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: is Tucker reaches a lot of twenty two year olds 154 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: and nineteen year olds, and we have to do something 155 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: about that by sharing a different message that is far 156 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: more clear and. 157 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: Far more honest. 158 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: It's okay to recognize that there are enemies in this world, 159 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: and sometimes you're gonna have to kill that enemy. 160 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: And even though you don't. 161 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: Want to go to war, sometimes you have to go 162 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: to war. And that's what grown up do. Children who 163 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: somehow think that if you leave everybody alone, they're gonna 164 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: leave you alone end up dead. And I know this 165 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: because there are sleeper cells in the United States that 166 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: have now been activated. And if you say to me, well, Tony, 167 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: you don't know they've been activated. I know that this 168 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: guy just got sentenced for trying to kill Donald Trump 169 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: in an Iranian backed plot. 170 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what else you need. How many bullets 171 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: do you need to be have? How many bullets need to. 172 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Be fired at the President of the United States before 173 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: this woke right in the political left says, Hm, maybe 174 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: we've got a problem here. 175 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: My answer is zero. Maybe just kill the terrorists before 176 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: they get a chance to take a shot. 177 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: Could we please be thinking about this and talking about 178 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: this rationally? Why does the woke right in the political left? 179 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: Why are they so desperate? Why is the Megan Kelly 180 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: sect so absolutely desperate for today's America to constantly live 181 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: in fear of what the terroritors of Iran might do, Tony, 182 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: If they're not living in fear, what a ridiculous amount 183 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: of fear mongering. The cells are here, and every rational 184 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: person knows it, and every irrational person is named Dave Smith. 185 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 3: They're here, We've got plots to take out the president, 186 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: and your answer is do nothing. They didn't bother us. 187 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: Why is Israel dragging us into this war? Maybe Israel 188 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 3: was right that Iran is a threat, and maybe finally 189 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: we have a president who's willing to recognize. 190 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: That, you know what, these people are a threat. Maybe 191 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: he's not Joe Biden. 192 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: Maybe he is not the BS artist Barack Obama, an 193 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: absolute coward who signed a so called rand nuclear deal 194 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: that gave them the opportunity to build a nuclear weapon. 195 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: Barack Obama did that and the Bedroads Tommy Vitre bullcrap set. 196 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: Those people should not be listened to because they've been 197 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: wrong about everything. You're a twenty something, you want to 198 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: start your life. I think you're better off starting your 199 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: life without the threat of these terrorists, lowlife, sons of 200 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: you know whats, and to remove them, it's going to 201 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: involve missiles and guns and soldiers. 202 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: You don't want to send these people into war. You're 203 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: not wrong for that feeling. 204 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: Allow me to be the guy who says, you're absolutely 205 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: right for that feeling. 206 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: But that's the. 207 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: Difference between what we want and what is the difference 208 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: between the fantasy and reality. The reality is the terrorist 209 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: organization that is the Iranian regime, supporting Hesbela, supporting Hamas, 210 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: supporting sleeper cells, supporting plots against President Donald Trump. 211 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: They're here now, and what you want, what we all want, 212 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: which is to be left alone. 213 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: Doesn't match up to the reaction of what they want 214 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: and what they're doing. So we have to turn to 215 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: these men and women in uniform with all that training 216 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: and all that hardware, and say now is the time. 217 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: The time was ten years ago. By the way, guys, 218 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: the time was twenty years ago. The time was long 219 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: before you were born. We didn't do it. We did 220 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: not handle it the way we should have. Here we 221 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: are now not because we want to be, but because 222 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: we need to be. The Iranian regime needed to go. 223 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: These terrorists need to be destroyed, they need to be stopped. 224 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: And for the record, we're still gonna have problems. Well, 225 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: the cells never would have been activated if Trump hadn't. 226 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: That's a nutty argument. That's a nutty argument. The people 227 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: threatening you somehow wouldn't be threatening you if you didn't 228 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: do something to make them threaten you, even though they 229 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: were already threatening you. 230 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: Is weird. 231 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: You think this is because America's over here? America's over there? 232 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: She is? What a worldwide caliphate? What do we talk? 233 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: Are we pretending things are when they aren't. That's so wrong. 234 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: Let's not so. 235 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: We know that there are these cells. We believe it 236 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: because we have now seen it. We know that there 237 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: have been plots put forth by the Iranian regime. 238 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: We know this. We know that. 239 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: Just six months ago, Tucker Carlson was all about, well, 240 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: they're trying to attack the president. We should go get them. 241 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: We should take these people out right, That's what we're doing. 242 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: So why is the Tucker Megan uh so upset? Why 243 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: is the wook right so upset? Look what they're doing. 244 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: Why shouldn't we Why shouldn't we protect us? Why shouldn't 245 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: we try and ensure a better future for people like 246 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: in their twenties who're trying to start their future. Why 247 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: would anybody be opposed to this? As a matter of fact, 248 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: maybe you should ask themself that question a little bit more. 249 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: Why would they be opposed to this. What's it in 250 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: their interest to be opposed to this? 251 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: What do they gain? What do they get, sir? A 252 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: financial incentive? Is there an. 253 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Incentive to seeing America hurt or harm that they have? 254 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: Because me, I want to see America thrive and I 255 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: want people who are starting their lives to actually be 256 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: able to, you know, start them. It's a worthwhile question. 257 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: I guess you can ask them. I don't know if 258 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: they'll answer. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz Today. 259 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: The sports world is blowing up. So you've got the Dolphins, 260 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: they are getting rid of Tua. Then you've got the 261 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: Colts re signing Alec Pierce, the wide receiver, but they 262 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: may not have a quarterback because it seems like Daniel Jones. 263 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: Wants every dollar the Orsay family has. 264 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, how much did Daniel Jones want? 265 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: He wanted like I think they offered him three year, 266 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: one hundred million and they offered him a three year, 267 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollar deal, and he wants that's like 268 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold money. That's the way I saw it. They 269 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: were offering him Sam Donald's kind of money. Who just 270 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: went a Super Bowl with the Seahawks, and he wants 271 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: what fifty million a year? 272 00:16:53,640 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: Yes he does? Uh? Sam, Sam, I not Sam. I'm sorry, 273 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. I don't know. I don't know about that. 274 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, pierre'ce got a four year, one hundred and sixteen 275 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 3: million dollar deal. 276 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 2: Thirty million a year. Good lord, that is nuts. And 277 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: then it's so awesome. 278 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: So you know, you've got the UFC card that just 279 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: got announced for the White House, which is gonna be terrific. 280 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: Someone asked me, hey, Tony, do you know anybody and 281 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: get us some tickets to the UFC at the White House? 282 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: And I said, uh uh no, I don't have Trump 283 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: on speed dial. 284 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: No one's getting tickets. 285 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: Hottest ticket in all of sports will be the UFC 286 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: on the South Lawn. 287 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna be crazy. But you do have you do 288 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: have this right here now. I'm in the Napolis guy. 289 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: You guys know that. 290 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: So Indy car I love in the Indy five hundred 291 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: where I get to be the voice of the pre race. 292 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: You have the Freedom two fifty ground prix one point 293 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: seven miles, seven turns, but a ton of straightaways, a 294 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 3: ton including going from ninth to third down Pennsylvania Avenue 295 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 3: heading towards the Capitol. It is awesome. Pit Lane is 296 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: on Pennsylvania Avenue. That is gonna be nuts now that's 297 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: gonna be in August. It's gonna be super hot, which 298 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: is gonna change the whole race complexion. By the way, 299 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: the tires run different, the cars run different, and if 300 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: it's humid it it can get very weird. And with 301 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: that level of straightaway they can pick up speed. But 302 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: with the humidity it has a huge effect on how 303 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: you run the engine, I run the tires, how fast. 304 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: You feel you can go. 305 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 3: But there is a lot to see. There are a 306 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: lot of good places. They're going to cross the National 307 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: Mall twice. They go around the National Archives down Pennsylvania Avenue, 308 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: that first turn into on the third Street. 309 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: And then making it onto Independence. 310 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna be unbelievable. That is worth going to that. 311 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: You can get tickets to UFC on this on the 312 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: South Lawn there the way. No, don't ask. I'm not 313 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: even gonna try to make a phone call. It's never 314 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: gonna happen. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 315 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: So the war in Iran continues, and yes, I say war, 316 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: and yes, other people are going to say conflict because 317 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: no war was declared. 318 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: You need Congress to declare war. 319 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: The President has not violated any laws nor the Constitution 320 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: by engaging in this action. The War Powers Act gives 321 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: him every right to do so. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 322 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: Good to be here, Good to be with you. But 323 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: it's just like in the same way that the White 324 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: a and the Israelis won't refer to this as regime change. Rather, 325 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 3: it's setting up the conditions for regime change. It's regime change, 326 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: and I don't think we should lie to each other 327 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: about anything. It is what it is. The question is 328 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: what is winning now. I believe it is the full 329 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: annihilation of the iatola and the regime until there's nothing 330 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: less and the people instituting a government that I might 331 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: disagree with, but that is indeed theirs and not Islamic. 332 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: Others may see it differently. 333 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: How does the United States continue to maneuver and do 334 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 3: they have to be considering getting out? And what have 335 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: we learned on the world stage. Major Mike Lyons joins 336 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: me and right now, retired United States Army military analyst 337 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: does work with West points, and sir, I appreciate you 338 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: taking the time. 339 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: It's good to see you. 340 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: I think that there have been a lot of questions, 341 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: will we see boots on the ground, What is the 342 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: exit strategy? I'm not so sure one needs an exit 343 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: strategy at the moment, but it's never a bad question. 344 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: Is it the feel that this was a rushed operation 345 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: by the Trump administration or is the feeling amongst the 346 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: people you speak to and the connections you have that 347 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: this was always the plan. There was a plan pulled 348 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: out of a drawer, tweaked and if someone said, meeting 349 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: the president, Okay, let's go do this thing. 350 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 6: Hey, Tony, thanks for having me. 351 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 7: Let's you and I today coin a new phrase, not 352 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 7: regime change, but regime compliance, because that's really what we're 353 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 7: trying to do here. Okay, look at Venezuela. Maybe that 354 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 7: is the model here. And and happened so swiftly and 355 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 7: so smoothly. We found the right individual within Venezuela that 356 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 7: was of that same regime but is looking to comply 357 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 7: with what the United States is trying to do. So 358 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 7: in this particular situation, the United States uses war as 359 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 7: an extension of foreign policy. Can't get the Iranians to 360 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 7: negotiate off their nuclear capability, recognizes that they're at their 361 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 7: weakest moment in history with regard to any kind of 362 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 7: military capability, and uses it as a leverage to try 363 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 7: to get compliance. And so while the President said that 364 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 7: he would be involved with anybody who takes over, maybe 365 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 7: somebody from this current regime will be. 366 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 6: That person that stands up and says we surrender. 367 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 7: That would be the smartest thing they could do, because 368 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 7: putting America on your side is always good for your 369 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 7: long term interests. So again, this was always coming, you know, 370 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 7: six months ago, Operation Midnight Hammer was the beginning of it. 371 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 7: But we're settling old scores, right this president admit, remember 372 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 7: at the end of The Godfather, when Michael Corleoni took 373 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 7: care of all family business. That's what's happened in the 374 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 7: last year with the Trump administration. Venezuela, Iran. Cuba is next, 375 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 7: and I think this is all part of a plan 376 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 7: that they're executing on frankly, brilliantly. 377 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: Quick offshoot on the Cuba question. 378 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: You don't subscribe or ascribe to the idea of military adventurism. 379 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 3: When we talk about the friendly takeover of Cuba. 380 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 7: Well, it's not military adventurism if the military is used 381 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 7: as the cudgel and as of the effect to get 382 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 7: the kind of behavior we want out of the administration. 383 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: Again, regime compliance. 384 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 7: That's all we're trying to get Cuba to do, trying 385 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 7: to kick out the Chinese, kickout communist partners that they have. 386 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 7: So that's the purpose of the military. It serves as again, 387 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 7: distinction of our foreign policy. It's finally being used. I mean, 388 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 7: I've watched the last forty US Republicans and Democrats alone. 389 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 6: Fail miserably at it. 390 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 7: A Rock, for example, A Rock was about regime change, 391 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 7: Saddam Hussein's got to go, and in fact, the regime 392 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 7: changed so much we fired everybody and completely destroyed the army. 393 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 7: We'll look with that. Look what that ended us with 394 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 7: a terrorist operation. Look what that ended up happening. So 395 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 7: we don't not necessarily regime change. We want regime compliance. 396 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 7: I will we'll have a deal with Cuba. That likely 397 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 7: doesn't mean a single soldier or a single shots fired, 398 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 7: but it's just in their best interest to comply at 399 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 7: this point. 400 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 3: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army military analyst, 401 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: Now let's we're going to debate this idea of compliance 402 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: versus change in the future. 403 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: But let's let's head head back. 404 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: Here to what we're seeing in Iran and you saying 405 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: that this was started with Operation Midnight Hammer. The arguments 406 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: amongst the social media sets, whether you've got the political 407 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: left or you've got the woke right, is that Israel 408 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 3: dragged the United States into this. 409 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 2: That's their continual arguments. What say you to that? 410 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, not a chance. Ran. 411 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 7: We've talked about greatest foreign policy failure post World War 412 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 7: two forty seven years. They've been at war with US, 413 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 7: have killed Americans in the past, and we've just put 414 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 7: up with it. And I think this administration looked at 415 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 7: this situation on the ground right now, saw Iran at 416 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 7: its weakest. We were going to have a conflict with 417 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 7: Iran at some point, it's just a matter of when. 418 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 7: And so the fact that we're aligned with Israel, who's 419 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 7: at its strongest. Now, look look at the look at 420 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 7: the tactical and strategic mistake Hamas makes attacking October seventh, 421 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 7: and look what Look where we are now three two years, 422 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 7: three years later with the situation with Iran. 423 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 6: How Iran has sponsored that whole situation. 424 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 7: So this is the time again to settle all scores 425 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 7: and bring bring the Middle East back to some level 426 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 7: of peace. It's waiting with the abram Accords. Everything is 427 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 7: on the doorstep. So no, Israel did not drag us 428 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 7: into this. We were eventually going to have a conflict 429 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 7: with a run at some point, and if we're going 430 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 7: to have that conflict, we might as well do it 431 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 7: when it runs out its weakest. 432 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army military analyst, 433 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 3: let's talk about China. And you know, one of the 434 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: things that's true, and you were one of the first 435 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: people to bring this up. The Chinese saw what we 436 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: did with Nicholas Maduro and they said that's impressive. The 437 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: world saw exactly what the United States can do when 438 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: it applies itself. Now you see what's happened with Iran. 439 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: Does China say the same thing. 440 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 7: It's in their best interest that they should. And you know, 441 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 7: Donald Trump when he meets with the Chinese leaders, I 442 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 7: guess in the end and this month or next month, 443 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 7: they'll have a lot more leverage considering that the United 444 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 7: States when the situation goes in Iran well, and we'll 445 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 7: control a lot of more than that we have right now. 446 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 7: Really has China's energy security in the palm of our hands. 447 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 7: Hard to say that that would have happened six months ago, 448 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 7: but the fact that we've stopped these ghost shipments coming 449 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 7: from Venezuela, then unsanctioned oil that they were taking from there, 450 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 7: and then plus twenty percent of whatever they're getting out 451 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 7: of the Strait of Hormusin and the Middle Eastern spot. 452 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 6: Now again that's got to be fixed. 453 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 7: We recognize that this commodity is very volatile, and shutting 454 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 7: down the straits hurts India, Japan, hurts some of our. 455 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 6: Eastern allies as well. 456 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 7: But China now is really coming to grips with the 457 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 7: fact that when the United States says it's going to 458 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 7: do something, it's going to do it, and so it 459 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 7: should pay attention. It's proven its military equipment is not 460 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 7: up to speed, and that's because it's likely copied from 461 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 7: US factories. 462 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 6: But they didn't get the whole thing, and then they 463 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 6: try to improvise. 464 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: Now, wait, you're jumping ahead of me, but you brought 465 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: it up, so let me go with you. The talk 466 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: was was that the Chinese dropped off a lot of 467 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: missiles to the Iranians, helping them gear up in case 468 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: this moment would come. The talk after that has been 469 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: that the Chinese missiles have failed spectacularly and that this 470 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: is an incredible embarrassment for the politic burero for ji Jinping. 471 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: What Chinese weaponry of any has been used and what 472 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 3: is the take on its efficacy? 473 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 7: Well, they have had some missiles deployed there that have 474 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 7: not gotten through, have not have failed in that regard, 475 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 7: but mostly their air defense systems. In the last six months, 476 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 7: the air defense systems that they deployed were used to 477 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 7: re establish what they had prior to that midnight Hammer 478 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 7: attack along with what Israel did back in June, and 479 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 7: they failed miserable. They were out in the first forty 480 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 7: eight hours. I mean, it's just not heard of, unheard of. 481 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 7: If you want to be a superpower, you have to 482 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 7: be able to project power, and if you can't project 483 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 7: power to your proxies like like they've. 484 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 6: Tried to do, then frankly, you're not a superpower. 485 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 7: You know, for whatever reason we've given up this century 486 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 7: to the Chinese, you're just acquiesced and said that because 487 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 7: of the billion people they have or their technology they're manufacturing. 488 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 7: You know, they tried to get upstream and all our 489 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 7: supply chains and that's over now as well. So to me, 490 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 7: this is such a pivot point within our history, on 491 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 7: the history of our country two hund fifty years young. 492 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 7: The United States is, but we're not given a sentry 493 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 7: up for one second to the Chinese. 494 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 6: And so I think that's the message that they're going 495 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 6: to get received. 496 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: So I don't know if it was John Yu or 497 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: Gordon Chang who and I agree with this, and I 498 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: have said this before that I believe China is a 499 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: paper tiger. 500 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: There's a lot of bluster, a. 501 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: Lot of screaming, a lot of tough guy, can they 502 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: actually take a punch to the nose? They build aircraft carriers. 503 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: They can't take off from an aircraft carrier. They can't 504 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: necessarily land on an aircraft carrier. This is hard technology. They 505 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: steal a tremendous amount as you were mentioning, They don't 506 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: create a tremendous amount of things. 507 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: They only take. 508 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: So if you are the if you're the rest of 509 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: the world watching this, and you are looking at things 510 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: and believing as you are that China has shown themselves 511 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: to be a little bit incapable here and not as strong, 512 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: and they are now behind the eight ball, and now 513 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: they're looking in that weakernest kind kind of position. What 514 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: is the effect on, for example, Taiwan's safety insecurity or 515 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: security of the Pacific room in general. 516 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 7: Well, the Chinese could learn a lot from Russia, and 517 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 7: that is they can influence Taiwan without taking it. I 518 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 7: don't understand this desire or this need to necessarily do that. 519 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 7: And what I mean by Russia is Russia decides to 520 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 7: invade Ukraine. 521 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 6: They really didn't have to that area. 522 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 7: In the Dome Boss, they controlled all the politicians, They 523 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 7: controlled a great portion of what was going on inside 524 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 7: the Ukraine governments. But that wasn't good enough. Well, I'd 525 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 7: give the same advice to the Chinese. There's no reason 526 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 7: to start a conflict over that. Destroying Taiwan doesn't do 527 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 7: any good. And then taking a step further now back that, 528 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 7: I'm not sure they can do it now anyway without 529 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 7: the energy security that's required. You want to start a war, 530 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 7: you better have oil reserves and you better be able 531 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 7: to support this conflict if it goes for a long time. 532 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 7: So I think the Chinese, which are passive anyway in 533 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 7: terms of how they think, are going to really rethink 534 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 7: about all of their actions when it comes to projecting 535 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 7: power on the Pacific. 536 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: Before I let you go, Major Mike Lyons, retired United 537 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: States Army. You talk about regime compliance, if that is 538 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: indeed the case, there's a real question about boots on 539 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 3: the ground because in order to get regime compliance, are 540 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: we making the argument that the IRGC gets to stay 541 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: and terrorize these people, because that doesn't seem to be 542 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 3: something that Americans would be super keen on. Do you 543 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: see a situation we're in order to get that compliance. 544 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: I still don't know if I totally buy into the 545 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: term where we see American boots on the ground or 546 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: would this be NATO boots or are there any boots 547 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: on the ground. 548 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 7: So yeah, regime compliance meaning that we're not going to 549 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 7: parachute some leader in from the outside like happened in 550 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 7: seventy nine when Colmini came back and took over. So 551 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 7: I think that's what I mean. This person will come 552 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 7: from within is what's important. But boots on the ground, right, 553 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 7: there's an implied task there. No one wants to talk 554 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 7: about this, but there's an implied task of having troops, 555 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 7: US troops somebody to go and check out these nuclear 556 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 7: facilities to make sure that they've been destroyed, to make 557 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 7: sure that that capability is gone. 558 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 6: I think that's going to. 559 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 7: Be insisted upon whoever again finally does surrender, or that'll 560 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 7: be part of the deal that we'll have to make 561 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 7: with that person. But again, boots on the ground doesn't 562 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 7: mean large formations the first Armored Division and sixty main 563 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 7: battle tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles, air defense platfor that's not 564 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 7: what that means. But I do think that there's going 565 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 7: to be small unit troop jasock level special operators that are. 566 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 6: Going to have to go check to make sure that 567 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 6: they're in compliance for what we want them to do. 568 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: US, Israeli, NATO, who. 569 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 7: All of the above, and you know what this is 570 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 7: going to be. Victory has a thousand fathers. Defeat is 571 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 7: an orphan to quote JFK. Once this victory has been established, 572 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 7: everybody will be in the game. The Briddest will be back, 573 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 7: the French he'll be back. Everybody will going to want. 574 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 6: A piece of this. So the buckle up. We'll have 575 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 6: to see what their actions are going to be. 576 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: Maybe not the maybe not the Brits. Maybe they can 577 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: may they can sit this one out. Major Mike Lyons, 578 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: retired United States Army military analyst. 579 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: I appreciate you being with us. 580 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: More to come. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 581 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna share. 582 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: With you the audio. 583 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: The embarrassment for Adam Schiff. Now, I don't think there's 584 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: any cursing in this there Potucier land in, but finger 585 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 3: on the dump button just in case. 586 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: This was Bill Maher's show, Real Time, all behind his 587 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: right here. Did you hear this? This was something else? 588 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: This is Bill Maher asking Senator Adam Schiff a question. 589 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 8: Statement from the administration the President had the constitutional authority 590 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 8: to direct the use of military force because he could 591 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 8: reasonably determine that such use of force was in the 592 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 8: national interest. 593 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 6: That's too vague for you. 594 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 8: Totally vague, okay, because that's from Obama about Libya. 595 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 9: Well, Obama made the argument initially that he could go 596 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 9: into Syria without an authorisation. I and many others pushed 597 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 9: back on that argument. Ultimately, he did not go forward 598 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 9: with going after Assad, even though Aside was gassing his 599 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 9: own people because he thought he might lose the. 600 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: Vote in Congress. 601 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: So Congress was unwilling to say Asad had to go 602 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: even though he's gassing his own people. 603 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: It's none of our concern. 604 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: The argument here is that the War Powers Act allows 605 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 3: the president to engage in actions, and the idea that 606 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: something is too vague is not necessarily a fact when 607 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 3: we're talking about an act versus the idea of declaring war, 608 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: which is a different action altogether. Obama did it, and 609 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: then it's like, well, actually Obama did it, right, it's 610 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 3: the same sentence, it's the same statement. You say the 611 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 3: statement is vague, way too vague because you thought it 612 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: was Trump. When Obama said it, well, you see he 613 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: did a different stop it. The same rules applied. And 614 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: if Congress wants to get rid of the War Powers Acts, 615 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 3: get rid of it. 616 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: Go right ahead. Can't stop you. You're the you're the 617 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: members of Congress. You're the ones who can do this. 618 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: Go ahead and do it. 619 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: Knock yourself out. But don't say when it's Trump it's 620 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 3: too vague, and when it's Obama, well, you see, he 621 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 3: was really smart. 622 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: By the way. 623 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: You got to give a shift credit. He was able 624 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: to turn on a dime the minute he heard that. 625 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: And he also he never asked himself way away. Is 626 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: that factual? And let me see, give me this. Never 627 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: took a state, never wanted to engage that way. And 628 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: if you think a statement is too vague, you say, whoa, bah, whoa. 629 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 3: I don't care who said it. The statement's too vague. 630 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: Then you go into it. But you know the whole line. 631 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 3: It's only bad because Trump is doing it. We see you, 632 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 3: we see you, Adam Shift, and we think you're full 633 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: of it, completely full. 634 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: Of it because you are. 635 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: Oh you also lied about RUSSI, Russia, Russia, and for 636 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 3: that you should be thrown out of the Senate. 637 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 2: Keep it here, it's Tony Katz today.