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Speaker 3: Two by two and under glorious sunshine here and one

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Speaker 4: Not just on our calendar, but anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 3: We are racing here at Laguna Seka on the runout

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Speaker 2: Quit as well. Jacob Abel's day is done.

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Speaker 4: Disapprning for him.

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Speaker 3: But it's down at turn two at the hairpin and

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Speaker 3: what is seventh place? Turned three again Marcus Erickson seems

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Speaker 3: we've had a spinner round somewhere. He has made Exitu

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Speaker 1: That is a very strange place to be stopped so

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Speaker 2: I centered at this tournament and chased it all the

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Speaker 3: Stand back and admire him, Stand up and applaud him.

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Speaker 4: He has been perfect. Won a performance.

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Speaker 3: Lots of perfection once again from Alex to low. Eight

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Speaker 3: wins in a season sensational.

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Speaker 4: Courtesy of Fox Sports. Highlights of the Java House Grand

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Speaker 4: Prix of Monterey from this past Sunday Weather Tech Race Way, Laguna, Seka.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, Kevin Lee and Kurk Cavin landon

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Speaker 4: coons Is in the studio. We have a two hour

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Speaker 4: the end of the season. A little bit past that,

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Speaker 4: the program for the off season. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: We will get to some of your ex posts Twitter

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Speaker 4: at Kurt Cavin Have you heard this before, Alex Poalo wins.

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Speaker 4: We could have recorded the show last week. I have

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Speaker 4: never actually have. I think this is about the third

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Speaker 4: time this season I've gone into the race Sunday morning,

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Speaker 4: This was not a surprise.

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Speaker 1: And I can almost say that about Portland. He last year.

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Speaker 4: And he's had some bad luck. Yeah, he should have

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Speaker 4: He won the poll at Saint Pete, started second at Barber,

434
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: but he's had a lot of getting knockouts. Started fourth

435
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 4: of road America. How did he finish last season on

436
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 4: the road courses? Started twentieth at Portland, fourth at Toronto,

437
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 4: sixth at mid Ohio. So, okay, power is probably the

438
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 4: most consistent. But he you know, his poll this year

439
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: is on an oval and I think he only has

440
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: a couple of fast sixes this year this past weekend,

441
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 4: a fourth at Barber, a fourth at Toronto. So he's

442
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: got at least three of them in my quick look.

443
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 4: And the way he finished last season was at Portland,

444
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: started second and one, Toronto started ninth, finished twelfth, Mid

445
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: Ohio started fifteenth, finished eleventh.

446
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Speaker 1: I don't be Yeah, there's no way to prove it.

447
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: I just think the timing of the leadership dismissal and

448
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: the road course implementation of the hybrid actually all tracks,

449
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: but it started at mid Ohio. I just we probably

450
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't just discount that impact as well.

451
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: Well.

452
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: I think that's where you need all of your people,

453
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: you do more. Because last year, before the hybrid came in,

454
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: you're at least starting with a plug and play with

455
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: what worked the year before, and that no longer automatically

456
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 4: works because everything is a little bit different. So the

457
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: teams that have the best assets in personnel are more

458
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: likely going to adjust and adapt in these short weekends.

459
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: And Ron Razuski is not just a team manager and

460
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: doing strategy for one of the cars. He's the technical director.

461
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: He's an engineer. He was a lead engineer. And now

462
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 4: you're asking also Ben Bretzman, a brilliant engineer, to run

463
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: the team, and you're bringing up the number two engineer,

464
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: and you're asking David Faustino on powers Car to run

465
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: that team and also be the engineer. And it is

466
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: a lot to do. Oh no, by the way, you

467
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: don't have the guy that was you know, adult in

468
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: the room is the wrong word because the other two

469
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: people that were dismissed were adults in the room as well.

470
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 4: But Tim Sindrick has a presence, sure, and you know,

471
00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 4: I wonder if that resource might have have helped Joseph

472
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 4: Neugarten deal with this very difficult season. And I get

473
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: that he doesn't really want to talk to people. There's

474
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: nothing else to ask. I don't want to ask him anything.

475
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: There's no good questions to ask, and there's not much

476
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: else to say at this point. And like I mentioned,

477
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: you know, Thursdays are a little bit easier because you've

478
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 4: had time to decompress, and he's always been super fine.

479
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: We all had a nice long chat with him. He

480
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: did the bullpend talked to a lot of people on Thursday,

481
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: and I don't think no I talked to him after qualifying.

482
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 4: I may have even talked to him after practice this weekend,

483
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: but he was fine throughout the weekend. But it's just

484
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: a lot and it's going to take them a little

485
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: bit to climb out of this.

486
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, we've seen, as you mentioned, good stuff from Prema.

487
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: We've seen good stuff, really good stuff from Rena's VK

488
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: and his dale Coin program. We've seen really good stuff

489
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: from Meyer Shank Racing. You know, I don't it's it

490
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: is nice and this is not a dig at everyone

491
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: not named Alex Polo, but it is nice when there's

492
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: balance through the field and we see success in different spots.

493
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 4: There's always other stories and that's what we'll be searching on.

494
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: We'll celebrate Polow and we'll look at the excitement that

495
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: Christian Rasmussen is bringing. And he gets his first top

496
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: ten of the season on a non oval and was

497
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 4: having a really good day. I heard him on the

498
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: radio yelling a little bit. I think there was a

499
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: tussle late in the race, and I don't know if

500
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: it was someone else's fault or if it was just

501
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 4: you know, a little fight, but he lost a couple

502
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 4: of spots. He was in line to finish seventh, and

503
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: he is consistently beating his higher paid and much more

504
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: celebrated and successful teammate and Alexander Rossi right now. So

505
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: Rasmussen is kind of staking his claim to I belong

506
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: here and then we'll get to the VK part in

507
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: a bit. Yeah, I think that's kind of the rest

508
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: to who had really good days. Rasmusen is one gram,

509
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: Ray Hall solid qualifies eighth, start, qualifies eighth, and finishes twelfth.

510
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: That's a solid day for where that has been. And

511
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: I'm not sure anybody else other than cool for Nolan

512
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: Siegel to lead some laps and hold plow behind him

513
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: for a little while. I think that's always a step

514
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: in someone's career to get to that point. So we'll

515
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: get through the rest of the box score and start

516
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: to get in some other things from Laguna Seca off weekend.

517
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: There is IMPSA this weekend at road America. If you

518
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: need some road racing action, we'll talk about that and

519
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: much more coming up on trackside.

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00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: This is Alex below and you're listening to truck Site.

521
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Speaker 4: Thank you for staying with us. Trackside ninety three five

522
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Speaker 4: one oh seven to five the fan in Indianapolis back

523
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 4: for a full two hours tonight. Let me check Kurt

524
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: before I forget on next week's show. Is it also

525
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: a Tuesday somewhere? I have that next week will be

526
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: August fifth. It is a Tuesday. We will have a

527
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: Wednesday on August thirteen, So we still bounce around a

528
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: little bit because of fever. Games. Looks like Tuesday the nineteenth, Monday,

529
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: the twenty fifth is the schedule. I don't know if

530
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: that's going to work or not. Looked at my schedule

531
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: is that after Portland? Are we in Portland on the

532
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: twenty five? No, that's Milwaukee, so I want to be here.

533
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: That's the Milwaukee week in Portland is the week before?

534
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: Where do we want to go next? Let's just I

535
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: saw a few questions come in this afternoon. Neil Strickland says,

536
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: how do the payouts work for the final championship standings?

537
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 4: There are some very compelling battles around tenth place. I

538
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: don't know that there's really any any payoutside. You know,

539
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: you don't see that promoted, and that's probably for a

540
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: reason because it's not likely a real big number. I

541
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: think the champion used to get a million something like that.

542
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to guess there's something for second and third.

543
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: I doubt there is anything thing beyond that other than

544
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: pride and selling your program. You know, if you can

545
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 4: be seventh instead of tenth as you're selling, you know,

546
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: your ability to partners and sponsors, your ability to run

547
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 4: up front. The seventh to tenth looks a little bit better.

548
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: But you're right that McLaughlin and vk are tied for eleventh.

549
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: They are what's that, seventeen behind Malucas in tenth. Who's

550
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: thirteen behind Power in ninth. That's interesting those two are

551
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: together in the championship. Armstrong is eighteen ahead in eighth,

552
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: then hurt Us six ahead in seventh, roseen Quist only

553
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: two ahead in six. That result getting punted at the

554
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: beginning hurt him and then there's a pretty big gap

555
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: up to fifth Christian Looinguard what forty two points or

556
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 4: something like that. Oh, you know what I mean, I

557
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: haven't looked at maybe I'll do it. What I'm thinking

558
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: about it and pulled up the standings leader circle. Help

559
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: me with the math here, so it's easier this year

560
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: it's entrant points. But we've had no fill ins other

561
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: than extra drivers for the ndy five hundred. Every full

562
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: time driver has done every race. And you know, I

563
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: remember saying in May you never know. And in the

564
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: last few years changes have often been precipitated by teams

565
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: trying to improve the program to get in the leader

566
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 4: circle and effectively win a million dollars. That's where the

567
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: money comes. It's not for tenth HiT's for twenty seconds.

568
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: Twenty second is worth a million dollars, twenty third is

569
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: worth how much?

570
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: Not a million dollars, not a million.

571
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: It's not nothing because there also is prize money for

572
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: the top three or something like that that are not

573
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: in the leader circle of whatever five ten, fifteen thousand

574
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: dollars a race that if you and it's just among

575
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 4: those other contenders and you know, you can maybe pick

576
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 4: up if you're the best of the rest, a couple

577
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: extra hundred thousand dollars, but that's a lot less than

578
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: a million, so you can kind of just look at

579
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: the driver's standings. The forty five entry with Louis Foster

580
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: is last in the leader circle right now. And you

581
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: also say this understanding that Prema is not eligible, but

582
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 4: neither of the premas are in the top twenty two

583
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 4: right now, and the premas are twenty third and twenty fourth,

584
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: so there's a big cushion behind Foster had. The next

585
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 4: up is sting Ray Rob and he is twenty eight

586
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: points behind. Yeah, twenty eight behind, which you know, I know,

587
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: if we were talking first and second in the championship,

588
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: we would say it's dead even. But here's the problem.

589
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 4: There's usually one or two or three points et step

590
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 4: these people because they normally run between eighteenth and twenty seventh.

591
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's at the what I would call the back

592
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: half of the field. I don't like that designation, but

593
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: that's where the points are the narrowest between positions, and

594
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: in many cases, like in the last six five or

595
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: six spots, they're actually the same. And they did that

596
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: Brian Barnhart when they set that up, really wanted to

597
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: de emphasize just bringing your car out after damage, you know,

598
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: so that you know, you know, you watch a Cup

599
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: race and a guy's got torn up equipment and he's

600
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: trying to pick up three extra positions to gain five

601
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: points that might help him in the championship. Well, you know,

602
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: they they the intent from an IndyCar side was to

603
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: not have that be a factor here.

604
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: You know.

605
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 4: It's so twenty fifth, twenty six, and twenty seventh all

606
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: score five points. Then it's six for twenty fourth, seven

607
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: for twenty third, eight for twenty second for twenty first,

608
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 4: ten for twenty ten and so on. So what sting

609
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: Ray Rob is going to need? And this also would

610
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 4: apply the NEXTUS. Devlin d Francesco was another eleven back

611
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: from Stingray, So what's that That makes him thirty nine

612
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 4: behind almost a full race. But that's if you could

613
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 4: win the race and the other finishes in the back,

614
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: and then Jacob Abel because he missed the Indy five hundred,

615
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: is not going to have a chance. What it's going

616
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: to take is what Connor Daily did last year, finishing

617
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: on the podium in Milwaukee one of those Stingray or

618
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: Devlin are going to have to have a top five

619
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: and they never had that in their career, so it's

620
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: probably kind of where it is.

621
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I kind of remember that the top

622
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: five in the Championship got a boost an in dollar figure,

623
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: but I may be confusing that with the Indy five hundred,

624
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: that there was a bigger sort of reward if you

625
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: were in the top five of the Indy five.

626
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, I doubt the top doubt

627
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: ninth and tenth pay anything for the World Championship points.

628
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: It's that leader circle for the twenty two and it

629
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: doesn't look like that's going to be a race either.

630
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: Nolan Siegel was in a little bit of concern there,

631
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 4: especially after he scored only two points in the race

632
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 4: he had to miss. But he's plus nine on Foster

633
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 4: and it's very very unlikely now if something changes and

634
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: sting Ray or Devlin can get a podium, you know,

635
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: and score thirty five points, then all of a sudden,

636
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: it's game on, and that will be a lot of

637
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: pressure on Foster to be able to come back and

638
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: converts from the Moon corp. No, I'm not that guy

639
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: is the Twitter handle. How can any car justify leaving

640
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: cars stranded on a live racetrack. They're playing games, people's lives.

641
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 4: So a couple of cars can get to the pits

642
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: before a yellow. Whoever made these calls needs to be fired.

643
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 4: Nothing can justify that decision, period. So the first one,

644
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, the Rinas VK was in a dangerous

645
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: position and that was one where that was left green

646
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: so everyone could finish the pit cycle, which is what

647
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Speaker 4: the drivers have asked for, what the teams have asked for,

648
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Speaker 4: and that has been consistent. They have been very consistent

649
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Speaker 4: in that regard, and we've talked about that, and I

650
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Speaker 4: may bring it up again here. You know, maybe it

651
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: should just be if it's a yellow, it's a yellow,

652
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Speaker 4: whether it's now or a minute and a half later,

653
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Speaker 4: and that ends that. But there's going to be arguments

654
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Speaker 4: about that because great performances are not going to be

655
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Speaker 4: rewarded and we're going to have very random things. Some

656
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Speaker 4: might say that might be the only way you can

657
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Speaker 4: stop Alex Pulow from rattling off another four championships, and

658
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Speaker 4: then we really will have that danger zone in and

659
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Speaker 4: make things more interesting. There's not much of a danger

660
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Speaker 4: zone anymore on road courses because we know they're going

661
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Speaker 4: to do everything they can to allow the leader to pit.

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Speaker 4: What changes that is if someone hits the wall, now

663
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Speaker 4: do they is that any wall contact or is it

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Speaker 4: still a judgment called That's where you're going to start

665
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Speaker 4: to get arguments from teams, because I can see a

666
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Speaker 4: scenario where someone nudges into the wall, or more than

667
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Speaker 4: nudges into the wall, looks fine, but we stay green

668
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Speaker 4: because they're in the middle of the pit cycle. So

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody had much of a problem with that.

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Speaker 4: The one that I think most are wondering about is

671
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Speaker 4: when Marcus Erickson went off and I saw his social

672
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Speaker 4: media post something broke on the car and caused him

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Speaker 4: to go off. How was it described? The skid plate

674
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Speaker 4: broke and folded up under the car, so we didn't

675
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Speaker 4: just lose control. But he's off. They're waiting for him

676
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Speaker 4: to get started. There is the hybrid now and he

677
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: sat there for about a minute and half, and the

678
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Speaker 4: two racing drivers on the broadcast and the play by

679
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Speaker 4: play announcer thought that was pretty dangerous. And the drivers

680
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Speaker 4: that I saw after the race, we're not happy about that.

681
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Speaker 4: I don't want anyone being fired, but I do think

682
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Speaker 4: we need to rethink that was not impacting competition. Everyone

683
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Speaker 4: had pitted. I understand Alex Polow would not be happy

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Speaker 4: about that because he had a nine and a half

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Speaker 4: second lead. And then when you saw the onboard from

686
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Speaker 4: Potto of Poto Award the helmet cam and that's what

687
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Speaker 4: shows you that's blind. The spotters are all saying, stay left.

688
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Speaker 4: But what if somebody's radio is not working? Which have

689
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Speaker 4: we seen that happen before? Occasionally? Yeah, occasional, Yeah, like

690
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Speaker 4: Scott Dixon this year. It happens and you don't hear

691
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Speaker 4: about it because they don't want to get black flagged.

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Speaker 4: But if somebody misses that, or someone is involved in

693
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Speaker 4: a battle and looks down, they looks down to adjust

694
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Speaker 4: the fuel knob or something else and doesn't see the

695
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Speaker 4: local yellow waving we've got willpower Sonoma two thousand and

696
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Speaker 4: nine or something else. So I'm sure that's going to

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Speaker 4: be addressed that they they may need just to say,

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Speaker 4: all right, sorry, everybody, we're gonna throw a caution. You

699
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Speaker 4: better pit on the early side of the window from

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Speaker 4: now on. But that one was an easier one because

701
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Speaker 4: he was in peril. Renas VK is sitting in an

702
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Speaker 4: open section, not a big deal. So I don't know

703
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Speaker 4: that they need to change the whole philosophy. But cautions

704
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Speaker 4: are not horrible. In fact, we are in the entertainment

705
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: business and restarts are actually okay, they're actually good. So

706
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Speaker 4: it'll be discussed and I'm sure that won't happen again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, there are times and places where

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Speaker 1: you can leave a driver sit for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I remember and we've talked about it. You've

710
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Speaker 1: talked about it when James Hnscliffe was left for the

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Speaker 1: whole race at Barbara Motorsports because on lap one or

712
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Speaker 1: lap two or three he was in a spot we

713
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Speaker 1: was just couldn't get him. I mean unless you're gonna

714
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Speaker 1: shut the whole thing down. And there wasn't a caution,

715
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Speaker 1: so you know you're gonna have those. Renus was fine.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know some of those road courses, Monterey in particular,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of runoff room. There's a lot of

719
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: room for a driver to kind of get out of

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Speaker 1: the way and he's not trying to get out of

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Speaker 1: the way, but you know, if he ends up in

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Speaker 1: the sand, trap, he might end up twenty or thirty

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Speaker 1: yards away from the racing line. The difference here is

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Speaker 1: Marcus Erickson was in the middle of the racetrack, or

725
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Speaker 1: at least at least he was on the racetrack. And

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I think it'll be addressed.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: Coming up, we'll get you said for our number two

729
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Speaker 4: and plenty more to come track side ninety three to

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Speaker 4: five one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 3: Hi, this is Colton, heard it and you're listening to

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Speaker 3: trackside on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 3: the fan.

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Speaker 4: Coming up in our number two, we will address some

735
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Speaker 4: more of our Twitter comments from the xbox and look

736
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: into the box score a little more in detail, talk

737
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Speaker 4: about what's still to come, schedule conversation, what we're hearing,

738
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Speaker 4: what we're thinking, silly season, and more. Kurt. We've also

739
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Speaker 4: got imse coming up this weekend, so if someone would

740
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Speaker 4: like to see one of our favorite venues, then we

741
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Speaker 4: have that for you. I'm gonna Moonlight again for NBC

742
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Speaker 4: this weekend. It's a peacock only weekend, so limited commercial

743
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Speaker 4: interruptions for us. Here is our schedule for the weekend.

744
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 4: A lot going on Saturday, the Michelin Pilot Challenge two

745
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: hour race at three o'clock Eastern time, two o'clock local,

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Speaker 4: and then about a half hour after that at five

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Speaker 4: forty Eastern time qualifying. We are qualifying for a ninety

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Speaker 4: minute show for the weather Tech sports Car Championship and

749
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Speaker 4: then the Sunday two hour and forty minute race, the

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Speaker 4: last what they call sprint race of the season before

751
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Speaker 4: they race an Indy six hour race in just past

752
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Speaker 4: mid September at in the Indianapolis Motors Speedway and then

753
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: Petite Lamont the ten hour race Sunday at two o'clock.

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Speaker 4: So join us on Peacock on Sunday, and we have

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Speaker 4: breaking news, Kurt. It's out there now. Today the household

756
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Speaker 4: driver Jackson Lee is joining Wayne Taylor Racing, one of

757
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: the top teams in sports car racing, teaming with Trent

758
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: Henman in the Pro Am class in Lamborghini Super Trafeo.

759
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Speaker 4: So this is a really cool opportunity because Trent is

760
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Speaker 4: a former champion and he's racing in their higher level

761
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Speaker 4: weather Tech team. Fact is the most recent winner. Trent's

762
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Speaker 4: a great young man. You may not know much of him,

763
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Speaker 4: but he is solid. He was a Team USA winner

764
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Speaker 4: seven or eight years before Jackson and has made a

765
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Speaker 4: great career as a sports car driver, has won a

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Speaker 4: couple of championships before, and he will be able to

767
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Speaker 4: tutor Jackson in how to go faster. And they should

768
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Speaker 4: have an opportunity in the pro am class in the

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Speaker 4: number sixty nine car and they will race on all

770
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Speaker 4: also on Peacock and there is a free YouTube stream

771
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: too for these races on Saturday at twelve fifty Eastern

772
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Speaker 4: and Sunday at ten twenty am a pair of fifty

773
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Speaker 4: minute races. The drivers split them in half. So there

774
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Speaker 4: is your im sub update. Porschapenske's are still one to

775
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Speaker 4: two in the overall championship there and BMW is looking

776
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Speaker 4: for a new home. They left the ray Halls, so

777
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: that's one of the storylines too. So hopefully another customer

778
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: opportunity is coming up for Rayhall Letterman Landing and they

779
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: will not be a part of BMW in the days

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Speaker 4: coming ahead. All right, thanks for your insight on Imsekert.

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Speaker 4: I was going to tell you that I couldn't ask

782
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Speaker 4: for it. I don't know you didn't ask any in

783
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Speaker 4: years past. In years past, the house car was not

784
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Speaker 4: necessarily a complimentary term. So I'm glad you called Jackson's

785
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: program the household car, which is the house car doesn't

786
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Speaker 4: sound too good. But what's the house car? Would that

787
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Speaker 4: be like the owners?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

789
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Speaker 4: Like this? Would it be the Bill Franz car? Would

790
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Speaker 4: that be the Tony George Carr?

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Speaker 2: Correct?

792
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: Would that be the Team Penske car? Is that what

793
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: you're saying, is that the house car? Now, I'm gonna

794
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: get you in trouble. It's been nice work. We heard

795
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Speaker 4: the term house car. Yeah, it's been it's been nice

796
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: working here. You got some other projects, all right. Hour

797
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 4: two is coming up in a moment. You'll see if

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Speaker 4: we come back next on trackside. Hi, this is Potto

799
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Speaker 4: Award and you're listening to truck side our two track

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Speaker 4: side ninety three to five, one oh seven five the

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Speaker 4: fan in Indianapolis. That's where landon Coons is at. Kevin

802
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 4: Lee and Kurk Cavin are close enough. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: joining us the first time we've had a second hour

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Speaker 4: for a little while. We'll continue this for a bit

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Speaker 4: until we get into the off season. Then we'll decide.

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Speaker 4: I'm going back and forth, Kurt, because this is a

807
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Speaker 4: live radio show. And radio shows are two or three hours,

808
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: but it's also a podcast, and as I've been thinking now,

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Speaker 4: we shrunk it to an hour because I've just had

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Speaker 4: some things going on this summer and really couldn't commit

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Speaker 4: to doing more than an hour. But now I'm thinking,

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Speaker 4: you know what that time length might be about, right,

813
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: because as a consumer, I don't know that I want

814
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: to invest ninety minutes to a podcast every week. So

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Speaker 4: we're open to thoughts whether it's be a little more

816
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 4: fast paced. It's almost like, you know, without commercials. I

817
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: think the show has been a little over forty minutes

818
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: and I just needed about five more. We'll see if

819
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 4: we need a full ninety five we do in the season.

820
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Speaker 4: That's not a problem. We never have a problem quote

821
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Speaker 4: filling the time, but I want to do more than

822
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: fill the time, so we'll kind of keep that under advisement.

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Speaker 4: But normally we'd be done. And it's a good thing

824
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Speaker 4: we have two hours tonight, because I think there are

825
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: other things that we need to address, But I'm kind

826
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Speaker 4: of leaning towards after the season is over and we

827
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Speaker 4: wrap it up a little bit, about forty minutes might

828
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: be about perfect to talk about this that and the

829
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Speaker 4: other and silly season bringing on a guest every once

830
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Speaker 4: in a while and so forth.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I like the I like the intensity that a one

833
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Speaker 1: hour brings, that you got to get to your point,

834
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Speaker 1: because in a one hour show, I would never be

835
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Speaker 1: able to mention. This is probably the first time on

836
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Speaker 1: live radio that a T shirt has been worn that

837
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Speaker 1: says the Wiener five hundred.

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Speaker 4: Oh I forgot that, Yeah, which is I heard hard

839
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Speaker 4: to come by and I should have just sold it.

840
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Speaker 4: I think I had people tweet me after the Weeni

841
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Speaker 4: five hundred that they'd pay several hundred dollars for this shirt,

842
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: and they sold out. They sold out, and they were

843
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Speaker 4: tough to come by. And I think you're going to

844
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Speaker 4: see another quote Weenie Engagement in twenty twenty six, because

845
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Speaker 4: that was such a big hit. Yeah, they find the

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00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 4: broadcast on YouTube or Foxsports dot Com, so it might

847
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Speaker 4: be on real television in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to get into this because I still

849
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: maybe I undervalued it, but I don't know. I was

850
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: so taken by the fact that the Indianapolis Motor Speedway

851
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Speaker 1: with all its heritage and traditions, and I had had

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Speaker 1: for a Grand Marshal, one of my favorites. But I'm

853
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: still surprised that the Cookie Monster. Cookie Monster was the

854
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Speaker 1: Grand Marshal that which was a great idea. It was

855
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Speaker 1: a great idea, but we've seen the Weeni five hundred

856
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: and the Cookie Monster all in the same year. The

857
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Speaker 1: fact that the Cookie Monster was at the podium doing

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Speaker 1: a press conference, I am sad that I missed it

859
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Speaker 1: because I was committed to IndyCar on this particular weekend.

860
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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how that transpired, but I may

861
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Speaker 1: need to see live video of that.

862
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 4: Grand Marshals are in part supposed to help promote the events,

863
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: and the Cookie Monster promoted that event. There were more impressions.

864
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: I'm serious. I know, I know you are impressions that

865
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: the Cookie Monster. It probably let a decent amount of

866
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: the audience reminded them, Oh, the brickyard is this weekend.

867
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: Oh that's where NASCAR is going to be. Those are

868
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: the things that you're hoping for with your Grand Marshal.

869
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: Someone who is going to activate a little bit or

870
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: have someone activate for them.

871
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you just kind of hit it.

872
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: The Cookie Monster probably doesn't have the number of commitments

873
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: that some Grand Marshals of the past have had, so

874
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: his social is a little more social. So I just

875
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: like I said, we need five hundred and the cookie

876
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: Monster on the same year. This has been a big

877
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: year at the speedway.

878
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't sure about the we NEI five hundred,

879
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 4: but we leaned in. It was fun, it was a hit.

880
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: It has a chance to be commercially viable moving forward

881
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: for a lot of parties. I'm going to guess it

882
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 4: went well for Oscar Meyer to so yeah, that's why

883
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: you do those kind of things, and it was fun.

884
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: We don't have to take ourselves too seriously. It was

885
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 4: not done before the race. I don't know that I

886
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: would like to see that during the ceremonies two hours

887
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 4: before the race. But carbon days about this kind of stuff.

888
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. And I think back

889
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: to the baseball parks. What is the most consistent fun

890
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: thing that happens at a baseball game, and it's on

891
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: the scoreboard where three or four little dots are racing

892
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard and you're betting on whether the red

893
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: one wins or the blue one.

894
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 4: Or I forgot about our grand idea over dinner recently,

895
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 4: and I need to tell someone or have someone else

896
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 4: higher in the food chain than me reminded the idea.

897
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: Our idea was because I think we're going to go

898
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 4: to a Brewers game to get all of us as

899
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: one of the hot dogs racing in the outfield. So

900
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: it's been discussed. Yeah, I don't know that we need

901
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: that pull of hamstringed. Nobody has to know who you are.

902
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: You need one of those. And I forget where they

903
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: do it. Where the guy starts running and then the

904
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: mask runner.

905
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 4: At the Phillies to do that. I can't remember, but

906
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 4: there is a borderline Olympic level sprinter, there's a college

907
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: sprinter or something like that, and you get like a

908
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 4: fifty yard head start around the warning chap field. Yeah,

909
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: and usually the sprinter wins, but every once in a

910
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 4: while just an average person will win that race. Or

911
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 4: maybe it takes more than that. Maybe it's when someone

912
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 4: was a high school runner is able to beat them.

913
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 4: So anyway, we're here four hour number two and we'll

914
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: be back next Tuesday night at seven o'clock. And if

915
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 4: we don't get to your Twitter question tonight then because

916
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: we're still a bit plausibly live late afternoon until we

917
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: get to the end of the show where where we

918
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: doing more of a closer to live segment. But if

919
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: we don't get to you this week, we can catch

920
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 4: on to it next week and we can still cover

921
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 4: some things from what we saw lagoon a Seka off

922
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: weekend this weekend, and then Portland is the week after next.

923
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll touch on the brickyard a little bit better.

924
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: The NBC portion of the NASCAR schedule. Get to see

925
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: our buddy Lee Diffy on television again this weekend with motorsport.

926
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: He's been doing a lot of motorsport with Supercross and

927
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: IMSA along with this Track and Field and other duties.

928
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: But he'll be back in the commentary boxes. We like

929
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 4: to say for NASCAR and NBC on USA, this weekend

930
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: is where they will be. And again IMSA is on

931
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 4: Peacock and then we're back to Fox coming up at

932
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 4: Portland the week after next. And cannot believe we are

933
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 4: down to three races to go in the IndyCar Championship.

934
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 4: Mohammad asks we or says we got to talk about

935
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: Kirkwood's incident. VK was again P five six, same strategy

936
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: as Dixon, but he got pushed by Kyle, and Kyle

937
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 4: still finished the race way better, and then he should

938
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 4: Indy Car and he's asking should IndyCar be more strict

939
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: on an incident like this? And VK is fighting for

940
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 4: a top seats, So I don't know. Kyle finished sixteenth,

941
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 4: that's definitely better because VK was twenty third and three

942
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 4: laps down. I saw Kyle's thought on this, so Renus

943
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: posted the video of it and essentially said, someone else's

944
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 4: mistake cost me the race and Kyle's response, maybe I

945
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: should just look up Kyle's response that, you know, it's

946
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 4: unfortunate that someone would out me like that, especially when

947
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 4: you broke seventy feet further earlier than you were expected.

948
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: So they disagree. What brings me back to what I've

949
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: somewhat joked about. Why don't we have break lights like

950
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: they do in sports cards. How are you supposed to

951
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 4: know when somebody ahead of you is going to break?

952
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's and I've never asked somebody why

953
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: we just don't put a brake light back there, But yeah,

954
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: I mean you're trying to still judge things and put

955
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: it in the driver's hands to figure it out. It

956
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: was unfortunate and.

957
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: The tweet was from Rena's a good day ruined by

958
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 4: someone else's mistake. Kyle responds, it's a shame someone will

959
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 4: put someone's mistake on socials like this. Yes, I misjudge

960
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 4: someone hitting the break seventy feet earlier than the previous lap. Sorry,

961
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: I take full blame, although that's impossible to judge. Yeah,

962
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 4: and I've seen it many many times, you know, and

963
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 4: especially when you are a fast car and you were

964
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 4: in the back and the faster car is one of

965
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: the reasons why they're faster is they break later, and

966
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 4: that is all part of it. You have to take

967
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 4: that into consideration, and I think that's how you know

968
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 4: race control. When they did penalize, Kirkwood would say, well, unfortunately,

969
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 4: at this high left level, those are one of the

970
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: things that you have to anticipate. Not that VK is

971
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 4: not a capable driver, but he had just had a

972
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 4: big wiggle moment. Kirkwood had tried to pass Rena's got

973
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 4: a little bit squirrely. You know, that's maybe something for

974
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: young drivers to keep in mind. When someone has a moment,

975
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: they're probably going to try to collect themselves and not

976
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 4: going to go full send into the next corner.

977
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: Yep, no, I I was going to bring that up.

978
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure how clear it was that that Rena's

979
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: had a wiggle just before that, But.

980
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

981
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: Tough call. It's it's unfortunate. You're still responsible for the

982
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: car that you're driving and Kirkwood's you know, can't hit him.

983
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: But I get it. I get it, and uh, you

984
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: know the penalty was probably drive through is the penalty?

985
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: It's a show. Yeah, you know it was a stop

986
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: and go.

987
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: That's right.

988
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what. Kirkwood's had a bad mind

989
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: of July. He is like average, finishes about fifteen in

990
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: these five races. He went from being second in the championship.

991
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: I think he's lost like one hundred and forty points

992
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: to pull oh in the month of July alone. I mean,

993
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: it's been it's been tough sledding for Kyle.

994
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: Crash from the right front failed at Iowa in the

995
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 4: first race. Second race, they gambled and stayed out for

996
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 4: a caution. Late caution heard their chances. They finished eighteenth.

997
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 4: Decent drive at Toronto, but still very disappointing because he

998
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 4: made a mistake in qualifying and started the sixth, and

999
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: had he thought the fastest car and certainly the second

1000
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 4: fastest finished sixth, and then what we just see a

1001
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: sixteenth a Laguna seika. So yeah, he goes from second

1002
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 4: in the championship to now what is the fourth? He's

1003
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 4: behind Dixon by just a little bit. Back to Muhammad's

1004
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 4: other point about VK in line for a top seat,

1005
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 4: let's just kind of assess where we think things stand there.

1006
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: What are his chances at improving his lot in life?

1007
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 4: Is there a better opportunity for him than where he's

1008
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: at with Dale Coyn Racing.

1009
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't see it, honestly, I've unless you do. But

1010
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: and you know what, sometimes you have to just think about,

1011
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: look how good he's had it. They figured out he's there.

1012
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: He's there a driver. You know, there have been a

1013
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: lot of guys have some really good runs at coin

1014
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: and then leave and then in some of those cases

1015
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: not the grass wasn't greener.

1016
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure.

1017
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: I don't see it either. I don't see it either.

1018
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: And I would say to him, and maybe I have

1019
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: said to him, you might be in the best position

1020
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 4: that is available and give Michael Cannon a winter to

1021
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 4: help them with their ndy five hundred program and it

1022
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: is going to be a different situation. It's okay to

1023
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: keep looking, but it's a delicate balance. Dale understands it,

1024
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: but don't take him for granted of giving you this

1025
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: opportunity when we all had a fear for Renus that

1026
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 4: there wasn't going to be any place for him, and

1027
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 4: it's now you know, Dale could kind of run this

1028
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: program out of his own pocket when the budget was

1029
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 4: four five six million. I don't know what is budget

1030
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 4: is what is being spent on those cars, but everyone

1031
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 4: tells me you can't do it for less than eight million.

1032
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 4: Now and to do it properly, it's ten million, and

1033
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 4: ask Roi and Todd Alts. Companies are helping, but I

1034
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 4: don't know to what level, but I doubt it's ten million.

1035
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: So a lot of this is Dale's supporting the program,

1036
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: and you just look at what's realistic. So here's where

1037
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: I think things stand, and there's a lot of I

1038
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know what's happening to the twelve.

1039
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: I think it's Melucas, but I don't know that for certain.

1040
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 4: I still think there is a chance, no matter what

1041
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: a contract says that someone gets together and says, we'd

1042
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 4: like to keep will and we think it might be

1043
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 4: good for you to spend one more team in a

1044
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: less pressurized environment one year to knockout that first win.

1045
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 4: But and if it's not in writing, maybe we put

1046
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: it in writing. But some people think it's in writing.

1047
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 4: I don't know. But the twelve is not going to

1048
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 4: be an option. It's either going to be Power or Melucas.

1049
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: Would the foight entry? Would you do that? If it's

1050
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 4: still a Penske technical partnership and you still have James Schnabel,

1051
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 4: you could say that's an upgrade and probably is to

1052
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 4: get you in the door there, And who knows how

1053
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 4: long Joseph Newgarden's going to drive. He doesn't seem super happy,

1054
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 4: so he might be one of those that retires earlier

1055
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 4: than you think. Or you know, if Malucas doesn't work out,

1056
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 4: that's he could be open in a few years, so

1057
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 4: you'd think strongly about that. But if that does happen

1058
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 4: and Malucas gets there, they're going to try to get

1059
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 4: Power in that car most likely, And does Roger Penske

1060
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 4: help fund that as kind of a going away, But

1061
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 4: that that's going to be an anticipated seat. I think

1062
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 4: Will is going to have some options if he does

1063
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: not stay with Penske. What else is out there. I

1064
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 4: don't think there's going to be any change it at

1065
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 4: Carpenter Racing or Meyer Shank, so there's one to look at.

1066
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 4: I don't think so either, but I do think the

1067
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 4: sixty six is open. I'm guessing Marcus Armstrong is coming

1068
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 4: to the last year of his contract, which I think

1069
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 4: and other people have written this. I think Nathan Brown

1070
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 4: has written this, maybe Marshall Pruitt has as well, but

1071
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 4: I've seen it out there that he's under a Ganassi contract.

1072
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 4: That was my assumption and they did not have to

1073
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 4: take him when they did that technical partnership, but it

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 4: worked out quite well to help that chip, and it

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Speaker 4: worked out well that Marcus has come with some budgets

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 4: and he's really good. So the dynamic there is going

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01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 4: to be as Marcus Armstrong continues to get better, and

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 4: it could be argued he should be a higher driver,

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Speaker 4: you know, kind of where Marcus Erickson was at now.

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Speaker 4: He's not done as well as Marcus Erickson has done,

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Speaker 4: who finished sixth in the championship three times, won four races,

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Speaker 4: including the indy five hundred and finished second another time.

1083
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: But does he want that dynamic to change? If he does,

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01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: then you you know, that's a different story. And you're

1085
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 4: looking at all, right, do I want him? Do I

1086
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,919
Speaker 4: want will Power? Do I want reenas VK? But if

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: he is still capable of bringing budget, and that might

1088
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 4: just be through partnerships, may not be the family writing

1089
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 4: a check, I don't know that that dynamic might be

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01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 4: business to business deals. His father is a very successful

1091
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 4: car dealer and more in New Zealand. But if you

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01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 4: have Marcus Armstrong and he's bringing a good chunk of

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 4: the budget, that is tough to say no to because

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 4: I think you could just debate you're hiring them. You

1095
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 4: could say I might want Renus, might want Marcus. I

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01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 4: don't know what is the right answer. Maybe Renus because

1097
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 4: he's won a race and he's effectively got it done

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01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 4: on teams that aren't Gonnassy, which is sort of what

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01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 4: Shank still is. And then the debate where a will

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 4: power is do you want somebody that's forty five or

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 4: twenty four or twenty five upside versus right now? Can

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 4: you imagine what will power might do with a Ganassi

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01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 4: engineer and the ability to look at Alex Plow and

1104
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 4: Scott Dixon's data and learn some things from them and

1105
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 4: read juveniate things. So I would not automatically rule that out.

1106
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 4: And two, what if the partners like Sirius XM and

1107
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 4: there are a lot of partners with Meyer Shank, say

1108
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 4: this guy's interesting. He gets covered because he's interesting and

1109
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 4: because he's fast, and he's always going to have a

1110
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: chance to win the indy five hundred. We are going

1111
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 4: to invest and we are going to pay willpower so quickly.

1112
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 4: If I'm thinking where will could get hired that he

1113
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 4: is going to find most attractive, I think that is

1114
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 4: P one. I don't know if they will offer him that,

1115
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 4: but they've got to at least be thinking about it.

1116
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: So just one point you made that, I would tell

1117
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: you where I stand on that I were a team owner.

1118
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: You ask would I rather have a forty five year

1119
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: old who is still on top of his game or

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01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 1: would I rather have a twenty four with upside? I'll

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01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: take the forty five. And here's why. If the twenty

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01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: four or twenty five year old continues to be successful,

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: you ain't keeping him for very long. You're not going

1124
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: to build the next twenty years. If this, if Marcus

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01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: Armstrong is the real deal, you're not going to have

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Speaker 1: him in three.

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 4: Years, certainly not with him bringing budget exactly. So he's

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01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 4: going to get hired at some point, and you know what,

1129
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: they will probably always be another Lenus lun Quist or

1130
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 4: you know, somebody who's really good you'd like to see

1131
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 4: have an opportunity. Yeah, so you know a lot of times,

1132
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 4: that's why it's not easy just to say this is

1133
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 4: your choice. I don't know they're financials. You know, they

1134
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 4: may need a driver that brings budget. A lot of

1135
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 4: teams do. The only teams that don't need anybody are

1136
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 4: Penske and Andretti. That might be it. I'm not sure

1137
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 4: if he's a primo and I'm not sure if either

1138
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 4: promo driver brings any budget.

1139
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: You say they don't.

1140
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 4: I say it's Andretti because I Ganassi has a driver

1141
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 4: that is helping with budget, and I think McLaren has

1142
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: a driver that is helping in some sorts.

1143
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: Well, look, even a Penske and and the others that

1144
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned, they may not have a driver that's that's

1145
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: bringing budget. But if one comes along who's worthy of

1146
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: the seat and brings budget. You're not discounting him just

1147
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: because you're not taking budget.

1148
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 4: Penske's never done that. I don't think.

1149
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: I understand that. But we're also in a different dynamic.

1150
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and ANDRETTI wanted to make a point when they

1151
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 4: drop down from five to three, we want to be

1152
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 4: able to hire our driver. So that's where they're at

1153
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: in this current environment. But sometimes things do change back

1154
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 4: to renas you know the other options, ray Hall letterman Lanagan,

1155
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what the situation in the contract is

1156
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 4: for Devil and d Francesco. Bobby Rayhall recently said, where

1157
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,959
Speaker 4: did he say that it was either race or Indie

1158
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 4: Star that Louis Foster is on a multi year contract.

1159
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 4: I still want to know options. It's easy to say

1160
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 4: multi year contract. I have a multi year contract. I've

1161
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 4: always had a multi year contract, but someone else has

1162
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 4: the option on that. That's how those things work, because

1163
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 4: like it does for most race car drivers, just like

1164
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: it does for NFL players, India and Baseball are the

1165
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: ones where there are guaranteed contracts. The rest of the

1166
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 4: athletes oftentimes do not have guaranteed contracts and there are options.

1167
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: Ray Hall has more shiny things. But do they always

1168
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 4: outperform Dale Core in racing?

1169
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: Do they haven't always?

1170
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 3: No?

1171
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: I tell you your point about Michael Cannon is not

1172
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: on give him a little bit more time in the

1173
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: program if he can stay connected to the program. He's

1174
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: bounced around a little bit lately. But if if he

1175
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: stays with the program, you know Dale, You can say

1176
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: this about Dale. Dale always has some pretty crafty engineers,

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: whether it's guys like Bill Pappas, whether it's John Dick,

1178
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: whether it's Yeah, I mean, go down through the list.

1179
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: Michael Cannon, Now he has had good engineers. Uh, and

1180
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: there are others.

1181
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: But unless the Meyer Shanks seat is offered to him,

1182
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 4: there is not a note that there's no brainer. Only

1183
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: one that is a no brainer.

1184
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 2: Yep.

1185
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 4: I don't think Androidie is going to make him an offer.

1186
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: I don't think fight will. I don't think fight will.

1187
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: It's not out of the question, but I don't. I

1188
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't wouldn't count.

1189
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 4: That's one you'd think about, Yeah, you would. You would

1190
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 4: think about that one. With the Penske relationship there all said,

1191
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,520
Speaker 4: Renus has been awesome, And you know, maybe my opinions

1192
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 4: are clouded because I always like to see people stay

1193
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 4: where they're at. I like good drivers on teams that

1194
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 4: are not the big three or four teams, So that

1195
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 4: just well, I think those are some of the fun

1196
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 4: stories when a dale Coin is on the podium, hadnto.

1197
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: I hope you're not saying that. You know, Renus VK

1198
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: is a good driver and he's better than dale Coin Racing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe dale Coin Racing has helped Renas VK become a

1200
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: good driver. You know, it is a team sport and

1201
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: they have figured out how to work together. I mean,

1202
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't working for Renus last year on what you

1203
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: could and I'll put my air quotes up say it

1204
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: was a better organization. And you can say that, well,

1205
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: we're talking a budget. We're just saying they have a budget. Yeah,

1206
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: the better organization is Who's to say who's better, but

1207
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: we have we have found something that works with Renus

1208
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: VK and dale Coin Racing, that's what we're saying. And

1209
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: we found that, you know, other with other arrangements at

1210
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: dale Coin Racing. Now, obviously we all agree that Sebastian

1211
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: Boordat is world class. He's as good a race car

1212
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: driver as we've had in the last twenty years, so

1213
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: obviously at that organization having seib was a big was

1214
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: a big boost. But it worked with those two. I

1215
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: mean the board day pairing with dale Coin's team worked,

1216
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: and he's had other ones, So you know, I'm just saying,

1217
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: sometimes a marriage just just really works for you. And

1218
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: it may be about the driver, and it may be

1219
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: about the team, or maybe it's just that they are

1220
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: working well together and they fit each other.

1221
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 4: Yep. I like what they're doing and I'd like to

1222
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 4: see that exactly. Attinue Brett dru asked this a bit ago,

1223
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 4: and we had one hour show so we couldn't always

1224
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 4: get to the Twitter question. So catching up a little bit,

1225
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 4: he tells me it sucks that the Indie Next Race

1226
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 4: has moved to a different channel. I forget which weekend

1227
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,879
Speaker 4: this was. I missed the end of it because I dvr'

1228
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 4: maybe something Fox can work on in the future should

1229
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 4: have started soccer on a different channel. It's not me

1230
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 4: losing Nielsen ratings. So on ratings, I think, you know,

1231
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 4: unless you have a diary, you're actually not counting on

1232
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 4: Nielsen ratings, although I've still never understood that. I don't

1233
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 4: get how in the digital age, they're not counting all

1234
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 4: of us. Here's the thing when they bounce things around.

1235
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 4: And I know there were complaints about us going on

1236
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 4: late because of soccer, Well what about the people who

1237
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: want to see soccer? How would you feel if our

1238
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: race they just knock us off of three laps left

1239
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 4: because the UFC fight was about to begin. You try

1240
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 4: to finish what you started, and then you have to

1241
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 4: make some contingencies in for this particular race, this was

1242
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 4: probably one of the ovals. I think because we were delayed,

1243
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 4: something happened. We didn't run our race on schedule. That's

1244
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 4: the commitment. After that, it's just the best you can find.

1245
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 4: But we can't bounce someone else out of their slot.

1246
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 4: Most of the time, especially if it's a live event.

1247
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 4: They have contracts, and in some cases it might even

1248
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 4: be a higher rated event. I don't know which soccer

1249
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 4: this was, but I know the soccer that preceded IndyCar

1250
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: on Sunday had twice the audience. So that's just business.

1251
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: But beyond that, it's just fulfilling the contract. There's nothing

1252
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 4: you can do, and they did everything they could by

1253
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 4: pushing the start of the race back five or six minutes.

1254
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 4: So we still had three or four minutes to set

1255
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 4: it up. You know, some people will still argue you're

1256
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 4: better off just coming on and throwing, you know, the

1257
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,879
Speaker 4: green flag. Anyway, if you're trying to capture a casual audience,

1258
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 4: don't make them sit through a lot of chatter. Let's

1259
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 4: just see race cars. I still watch Laguna Seca and

1260
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 4: I'm captivated. I think it's a wonderful visual it is

1261
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 4: with that backdrop and the landscape and the up and

1262
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 4: down and the cars look fast there. Oh and then

1263
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 4: I think I responded to this to Brett. Here's the

1264
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 4: thing too, if you miss something IndyCar related with Fox,

1265
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 4: just keep trying. Because they aired ninety six times a week.

1266
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 4: You cannot miss us. They re air practice shows from

1267
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 4: Indie next just set the season pass, or if you

1268
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 4: miss something, just look on FS one FS two. I know,

1269
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 4: and everyone has FS two, and I get the complaint

1270
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 4: that I'm not going to spend for that. You know,

1271
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 4: first world problems. We can't have everything, but there are

1272
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 4: a lot of things available on different channels, and it

1273
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 4: generally re airs at some point. And you know what

1274
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 4: they also do. How I watched the race on the

1275
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 4: plane ride home last night YouTube. The entire races were

1276
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,440
Speaker 4: posted free to YouTube within about twenty four hours.

1277
01:13:59,280 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 2: So.

1278
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 4: It's out there and available. I had another one recently

1279
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 4: yelling about asked if Fox requires me to spoil the

1280
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 4: Indie Next result when I mentioned Miles row one at

1281
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 4: Iowa during the IndyCar race. That's I think the first

1282
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 4: time we've done that. And I also think Miles row

1283
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 4: is probably pretty happy, so were his backers. So was

1284
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 4: Indie Next that we got to mention on. He happened

1285
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 4: to be standing in the pit box when we did

1286
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 4: a Ben Bretzman interview, and I thought, oh, here's a

1287
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 4: nice way to kind of give the young man some

1288
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 4: recognition on a very significant victory. Spoiler alert to you all,

1289
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 4: there are no more spoiler awards alerts in this world.

1290
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 4: If you don't want to be spoiled. One, you obviously

1291
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 4: know you need to stay off social media, which it

1292
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 4: can be done. I've done it. Two, you have to

1293
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 4: watch things in the order they aired, because even if

1294
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 4: the end right, let's just use some smart thinking here

1295
01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 4: and let's just have a teachable moment for everyone, because

1296
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 4: there's going to be a crawl at the bottom of

1297
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 4: a lot of broadcasts that is automated that nobody can control.

1298
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 4: And thank god Fox actually includes IndyCar and Indye Next

1299
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 4: on the FS one and FS two. I'm not sure

1300
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 4: about fox other sports programmings, but out at dinner on

1301
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 4: Sunday night, I thought it quite cool that in the

1302
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 4: basketball game we were watching on FS one, there's the

1303
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 4: Indie Next standings going through the crawl on there, so

1304
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 4: you must watch in order that they happen. If the

1305
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: Indie Next result was the most important thing that you

1306
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 4: didn't want spoiled, you better watch that before the IndyCar

1307
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 4: Race or any other sporting event that weekend, otherwise you're

1308
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 4: going to have to suck it up.

1309
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: Coaching with Kevin this has been good. The only thing

1310
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: that was confusing about the weekend is moving the morning

1311
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: warm up to the evening and then it was going

1312
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: to go on f S two, but FS two is

1313
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: showing something else IndyCar related.

1314
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And then the kind of think the thought

1315
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 4: there was what we will air it on dot com

1316
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 4: and it was going to be on FS two, which

1317
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 4: is not a huge audience, and then you just air

1318
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 4: it on Sunday morning in the original FS one block.

1319
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 4: So that's kind of something I think will need to

1320
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: change in the future that we're kind of learning. There

1321
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 4: is no point in scheduling an eight thirty session at

1322
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 4: Laguna Seka. No, it ain't gonna happen now somehow the

1323
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 4: porsch Or Sprint Challenge doesn't require a helicopter because they're

1324
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 4: out there running around. And one joke was because a

1325
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 4: lot of the drivers are also doctors.

1326
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good yeah.

1327
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I may or may not have said that, but

1328
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 4: IndyCar understandably is not going to run if the safety

1329
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 4: helicopter cannot land or take off. I think it was

1330
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 4: already there, but it can't take off, and you're always

1331
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 4: going to have that, so that seems like a good

1332
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 4: schedule adjustment. One mention was, let's just do two practices

1333
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 4: on Friday, do an afternoon qualifying on Saturday, and then

1334
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 4: the warm up late in the afternoon, because there have

1335
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 4: been other places where we're starting really early where the

1336
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 4: warm up quote has come at the end of the

1337
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 4: day on Saturday. That happens at times, and there's no

1338
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 4: reason to schedule something in the morning on Saturday or

1339
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 4: Sunday because there's about an eighty percent chance it's not

1340
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 4: going to happen. Shoot, you almost now the Indie Next

1341
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 4: Race had to bounce until after the IndyCar Race, and

1342
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 4: we missed it by about five minutes. About five minutes

1343
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 4: after they called that race, it was cleared and it

1344
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 4: was all go. By that point, you could only run

1345
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 4: like fifteen of the thirty five laps because we were

1346
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 4: out of time.

1347
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1348
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say we essentially couldn't have

1349
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: even had the Indie Next Race. So yeah, that's you know,

1350
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 1: there's something. There's a lot of things that are consistent

1351
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: or predictable in life, and one of them is fog

1352
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: at Laguna Seka in this in the morning. Through most

1353
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: of the year, you just.

1354
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 4: Did beautiful there. So it was dreary in the morning.

1355
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 4: It was sixty five and sunny every afternoon, and sixty

1356
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 4: five there feels like seventy five, maybe because it's in

1357
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,959
Speaker 4: the desert and it's really chilly at night. It's especially

1358
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 4: chili near the bay. But it is just perfect out there.

1359
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 4: And I hear Road America is going to be quite

1360
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 4: nice this weekend, like in the nineties now even up there,

1361
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 4: but it's supposed to be in the mid seventies if

1362
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 4: you want to see some racing in your area for im.

1363
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 4: So this weekend, all right, we'll see what we need

1364
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 4: to still get to. I think there is more to

1365
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 4: cover as we continue trackside ninety three five one oh

1366
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 4: seven five The fan? How this Scott Dixon and you're

1367
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 4: listening to trackside on ninety three five and one oh

1368
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 4: seven five the fan? Okay this segment. Go back into

1369
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 4: the box score and see there's anything else we need

1370
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 4: to talk about. We talked a lot Kurt about the

1371
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 4: top ten from Laguna Seka. I'm not sure anybody else,

1372
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 4: you know, roseen Quist is one. I'm looking to see

1373
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 4: if there was anybody that's kind of out of place?

1374
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 4: Was better than where they finished? Uh or the only

1375
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 4: the only comment then where they they started. Rose and

1376
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 4: Quist stands out because he was second in the second

1377
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 4: round of qualifying, went off, caused a local yellow, had

1378
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 4: to start twelve, and then he gets hit from behind

1379
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 4: on the opening lap. So you know, I would have

1380
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: been curious to see what rose Quiz could have done.

1381
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,839
Speaker 2: You know, I brought up Poddo earlier.

1382
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: Being a driver who has you know, I don't think

1383
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: he's had as many shining moments as like a champion,

1384
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: a true championship contender would expect, and this was one

1385
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: of those races. It just felt like it just felt

1386
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: like he was never really in contention. You know, he

1387
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: qualifies second, looks like it's gonna and immediately he's third,

1388
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: and he's dropped a fifth pretty quickly, and it's almost like,

1389
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the sometimes in racing or

1390
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: events where they time each other, it's like he never

1391
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: got a call. It was like Potto was never really

1392
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: a factor. And that was just interesting. I mean, just

1393
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: he was kind of at the edge of the camera

1394
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: shot all day, but fourth or fifth most of the

1395
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: race and never any better, never any worse, And it

1396
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: just seemed like it was kind of one of those

1397
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: ho hum days for him, and I hate that. I

1398
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: wanted him to put some pressure on the on the

1399
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: championship leader, and it just never really came.

1400
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 4: So don't really worth mention it is. I think Connor

1401
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 4: Daily had a good recovery. Yeah, I don't know whose

1402
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 4: fault it was, whether he tracked out or Schwartzman came in,

1403
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 4: but they made contact at the beginning went off. He's

1404
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 4: got a lot of catching up to do, and you

1405
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 4: know still started twenty third to begin with, but he's

1406
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 4: effectively last or just ahead of Kevin Simpson and Felix

1407
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 4: roe'sen quist and finishes thirteenth, So that's good for Connor.

1408
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 4: That's a solid result for them as they continue to

1409
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 4: try to dial in the program. You know we haven't

1410
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 4: mentioned yet was the Nathan Brown story with Zach Brown

1411
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 4: from Aerol McLaren from their visit together in Toronto and

1412
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 4: Zach knows how to get people talking. Apologies to Zach

1413
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 4: that I didn't get to this until the next segment,

1414
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 4: but he told The Indianapolis Star that he is working

1415
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 4: on scheduling a rookie OVAL test for a driver, and

1416
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 4: Tony Kanaan wouldn't reveal it either. Brown said, We've got

1417
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 4: to trick up our sleeves and it would be so

1418
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 4: cool if it happens. This one would be unreal, it

1419
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 4: would be mega, which got everyone to start thinking.

1420
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: About who it might be. You got to guess, well,

1421
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: Sebastian Vettel came to mind. That was one that you

1422
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: know he's not He's not shied away from the conversation

1423
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: about Indycarr in the past. I've actually been around Sebastian

1424
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: a fair amount, but it's not it's not Max for stopping.

1425
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 4: I just can't well, it's not an active F one driver, correct,

1426
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 4: they can't do it. This schedule doesn't work. So you're

1427
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 4: looking at Vettel, you're looking Ricardo.

1428
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: So I think it's vital That's who I think.

1429
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think he's I don't think he's

1430
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 4: going to do that. Next was I wonder is it

1431
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 4: Kyle Busch? The next I wondered, is it Connor Zilich,

1432
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 4: who apparently did say this weekend, which I think he

1433
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 4: said before, he's going to do the Indy five hundred

1434
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 4: at some point, but I think it's probably going to

1435
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 4: be with Justin Marx and track House agreed, agreed. Exton

1436
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 4: wants to do the Indy five hundred, but I don't

1437
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 4: know that it's going to be next year, doing during

1438
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,839
Speaker 4: what is likely to be his full NASCAR Cup season.

1439
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 4: And Zilich, by the way, one what I hear is

1440
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 4: another entertaining race. So he's winning on all the road

1441
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 4: courses and now he won at more of a driver's

1442
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 4: track in the Infinity race at the Brickyard. By the way,

1443
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,799
Speaker 4: very cool for Bubba Wallace to win this this weekend

1444
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 4: as well, and he gets himself in the playoffs. I

1445
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 4: really wish the Brickyard was not on an IndyCar weekend

1446
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 4: so we could all experience that a little bit. Here's

1447
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 4: another thought I have. I wouldn't be surprised if Zach's

1448
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 4: giving us the okie doke and he's going after Ryan

1449
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 4: hutter Ray and he's making a joke that because Ryan

1450
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 4: hutter Ray is the best available driver out there. And

1451
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 4: I think, well, I think I've said before. You know

1452
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 4: they're gonna win another big name driver, and maybe it's

1453
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 4: Kyle Busch. With Larson not coming back. I think what

1454
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 4: Aaron McLaren needs to do next year is bring in

1455
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 4: someone who can elevate the program, because they still have

1456
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 4: one driver that you would say has a good chance

1457
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 4: of winning the race. Christian Longuard's not there yet until

1458
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 4: proven otherwise, he still has some more work to go.

1459
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's going to be better next year after

1460
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 4: a year in the program, but he's not quite there yet,

1461
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 4: or at least his car wasn't quite there yet to

1462
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 4: be talked about as a contender. Nolan Siegel's not there

1463
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 4: yet either, they would be well served on a one

1464
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 4: off to find the best available driver, and if Tony

1465
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 4: Kanaan won't do it, that best available driver unless he's

1466
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 4: already re signed with Ryan Ryin Bold and Cusick Motorsports.

1467
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 4: And I saw Don Cusick mentioned in a story this

1468
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 4: weekend that on Racer that they haven't re signed with

1469
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 4: Dryan Ryan Bold. So I had a couple people say, yeah,

1470
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 4: just keep an eye on Ryan. Maybe I'll ask him

1471
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 4: next time he's in the Indie next booth.

1472
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: No, I think I think that makes a lot of sense,

1473
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: not just because it's Ryan, but you're right, they need

1474
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: another bullet to win the Indy five hundred. They need

1475
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 1: somebody else who can win the Indy five hundred. And

1476
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: Christian Lingard, for as good as his season has been,

1477
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: has not been great on obles. He's not there on

1478
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: ovals yet, and he's not there at the speedway, even

1479
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: though you know he carried you know, his program pretty

1480
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: far up the up the grid last the last few years,

1481
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: last couple of years, but then you're talking eleven to twelve,

1482
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: fourteenth something like that. You know he's not been in

1483
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: the conversation. So yeah, there are just not a lot

1484
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: of options out there for drivers that can win it.

1485
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: Taku Mesado could still win it. Ryan hunter Way could

1486
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,799
Speaker 1: still win it. But that's that's the short list of people.

1487
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just kind of guessing on Hunter Ray. I

1488
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 4: don't have any good sourcing on this. It's just as well,

1489
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 4: let's just call him. Let's just call and ask him.

1490
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 4: We just as we chat around and talk about Bettel. Now,

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. Now, I think Zilich is probably

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Speaker 4: gonna come with Justin Marx. Who else is it? So

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Speaker 4: there's probably some other names. And knowing Zach Brown, he's

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Speaker 4: probably got something that I haven't thought about yet that

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Speaker 4: will be quite interesting. That's why he's good at his job.

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Speaker 4: He markets.

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Speaker 2: Well, what about Elliot.

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Speaker 4: Other than he's a co owner of Meyer Shank Racing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but you know, I just think commercially they're going to

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Speaker 4: want him in the car again. But he's chumming with

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Speaker 4: Tony Kanan. Yeah, I can't rule Tony Kanan saying, you

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Speaker 4: know what, I was actually getting kind of excited about

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Speaker 4: jumping in the car. Maybe I will go ahead and

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Speaker 4: do it. And that's why maybe they're joking about a

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Speaker 4: rookie test, because he would have to go through the

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Speaker 4: rookie test right.

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Speaker 2: To do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why the rookie part was why I didn't

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Speaker 1: think about somebody like kind of Ray.

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Speaker 4: But sure, when you're a rookie, we're thinking someone in

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Speaker 4: NASCAR or Formula one or whatever. But just stand by.

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Speaker 4: That's what we can talk about in the off season.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well we missed in more is coming up

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Speaker 4: next on track side? Hi, this is what powe and

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Speaker 4: you're listening to TRACKSD all right, final segment. What we missed. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I forgot to mention that there was some testing in

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Speaker 4: Portland today. I knew ANDRETTI was going there. I heard

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Speaker 4: somebody mention that, and then I saw a social post there.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if anybody else. I saw some others

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Speaker 4: that said that they were going to be testing at

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Speaker 4: Nashville Superspeedway before we got there. I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: this week, but there's still a little bit of testing

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Speaker 4: before the season is over. To Twitter, Matt Arcoletta, when

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Speaker 4: Kurt mentioned the Weeny five hundred shirt that I have on,

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Speaker 4: he found a screen grab from the broadcast with someone

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Speaker 4: standing in full view with the back of one of

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Speaker 4: those shirts that says there's only one Wiener still getting

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01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 4: a lot of life. Mark Zastro says interesting that IndyCar

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Speaker 4: listened to hitchdown on the VK incident. Full course caution

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Speaker 4: was held until the leader's blended. But seeing cars at

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Speaker 4: full pace for so long as Jarring proposal a timing

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Speaker 4: loop caution when the road when race controlled declares won

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01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 4: all cars can pass, all start finished lined and blend

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Speaker 4: lined once then position is frozen. You have to think

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Speaker 4: about that and see that play out. But you're right,

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Speaker 4: it would be nice to see something with technology, if

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Speaker 4: it's available, to figure that out, because that's part of

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Speaker 4: the challenge, is that, all right, you hold the yellow

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01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 4: until everybody pits, but unless you get the outlap to go,

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Speaker 4: then there is a huge advantage for those that pit

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Speaker 4: right just before that caution because they don't have to

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Speaker 4: do the outlap. And they did try to make them

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Speaker 4: do at least half the outlap and get back up

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Speaker 4: to speed, but that means you have somebody sitting there

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01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 4: not being able to move for even longer. One other time,

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Speaker 4: for I saw someone for the love of INDI said

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Speaker 4: it was Newman Haas that I mentioned that went to

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Speaker 4: Indy five. It was Bruno jung Kara that got hurt,

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Speaker 4: not Borda who had a late crash in that race,

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Speaker 4: so thank you for that. Bruno jan Karra, by the way,

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Speaker 4: is racing and Michelin pilot challenge in a TCER card.

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Speaker 4: Now I think I haven't gotten my statuet, but I

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01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 4: think he's racing this weekend of Road America, So hope

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Speaker 4: you can watch US Saturday and Sunday on Peacock. We'll

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Speaker 4: see you next Tuesday here on track side