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Speaker 1: We have a resolution in this case. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it's Kenlln Casey Show and Rob Casey's here. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us today. We have a resolution in the

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Speaker 1: case of the man who was charged with what stalking

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Speaker 1: Caitland Clark Rank Clark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Michael Lewis is his name. He's from Texas.

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Speaker 2: He was sentenced to two and a half years in

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Speaker 2: prison after he pled guilty to threatening and harassing her.

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Speaker 2: He sent some explicit and violent messages to her via

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Speaker 2: social media for about a year, and he received the

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Speaker 2: maximum sentence for his felony charge. Two and a half

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Speaker 2: years doesn't seem like very long to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and you know, obviously a variety of things

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Speaker 1: go into it. What there was a plea deal obviously,

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Speaker 1: so you get a reduced whatever. Now, some feeszing things

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Speaker 1: came out The Indie Star amongst others. Have you know,

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Speaker 1: big expose as on this if you want to read

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Speaker 1: all about it. One that was interesting was this guy

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Speaker 1: traveled from Dallas, the Dallas area to Indianapolis. He was

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis when the police encountered him. So very serious, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just some guy in his bedroom

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Speaker 1: doing something. He had traveled across the country. Now he

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Speaker 1: was at a hotel and he had sent these messages.

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Speaker 1: The police had an encounter with him. They actually went

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Speaker 1: to the hotel, had a conversation with him, did a

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Speaker 1: welfare check, and then he proceeded to keep sending. It's

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Speaker 1: like they, I guess, decided not to apprehend him or

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Speaker 1: detain him at that time, and then he kept going.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, they warned him and he did he kept going.

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Speaker 2: But now he has a no contact order and he's

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Speaker 2: got to stay away from Gamebridge in all Indiana Fever events.

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Speaker 2: But he continued to send her messages via social media.

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Speaker 2: He said he got banned from Gamebridge, but maybe he'll

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Speaker 2: go to road games. Yikes, that's scary for her.

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Speaker 1: Well, the judge, I think, even alluded to this that

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Speaker 1: the guy has some mental health issues, obviously. And I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to read the Star article and I thought I

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Speaker 1: thought there was something where the judge had said something

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Speaker 1: about him needing to get mental health you know, evaluation

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Speaker 1: or help or whatever. And I'll try to try to

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Speaker 1: find that I'm not seeing in the article I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at from you. But anyway, I mean, the guy has

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Speaker 1: you know, some serious issues that are going to need to

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Speaker 1: be vetted out beyond just being incarcerated. It obviously takes

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Speaker 1: him off the street, which is good, but it does

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Speaker 1: also underscore, right, like everybody thinks it's cool to be

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Speaker 1: in the public eye, thinks it's cool to be a

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Speaker 1: public figure. Wouldn't it be neat to have people recognize

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Speaker 1: you when you go places, or people want your autograph

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Speaker 1: or want your picture. There's also a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that that are just completely messed up in this world

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Speaker 1: and want to do harm. Yeah, and you know, for

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Speaker 1: someone like her, she's not bringing the heat on anybody.

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Speaker 1: She's just some person out there playing basketball. And you

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Speaker 1: feel really bad for her because she subjected to something

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Speaker 1: like this when all she wants to do is just

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Speaker 1: entertain people and give people a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think about this, like, you know, everybody always

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Speaker 2: comments on how popular and how skilled she is athletically

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Speaker 2: and how much money she has for all of the

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Speaker 2: brands that she's promoting. But at the same time, you

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Speaker 2: have to think this was a twenty two year old

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Speaker 2: woman in a strange town who just moved here, recent

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Speaker 2: college graduate, and you've got this guy sending her creepy

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Speaker 2: messages who's in an imaginary relationship with her, Like it

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Speaker 2: kind of brings it back down to like, yeah, she's

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Speaker 2: just a young woman who's starting out in her career

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, think about this, she's basically the same age as

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Speaker 1: your daughter.

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Speaker 2: She is the same age as my daughter who has

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Speaker 2: just moved across the country starting her career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just touched on a great point, which is

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Speaker 1: we lose sight of this not just with her, but

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Speaker 1: with these athletes collectively because we see them as super

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Speaker 1: like because of the attention and you get. You see

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Speaker 1: them because they're in an adult world and they're in

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Speaker 1: an industry which is consumed by adults, that you lose

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Speaker 1: sight of the fact that picture what you were like, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I think about all the like when I was

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Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four years old. I started my

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Speaker 1: like all the stupid stuff I did, Like what I've

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Speaker 1: been able to handle the magnitude of it's one thing

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Speaker 1: But the magnitude at that age of being the navigate

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Speaker 1: these people they don't I mean, you get experience over time,

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Speaker 1: they don't just PLoP you down and then you have

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Speaker 1: to do this. Obviously she is as she elevated, but

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Speaker 1: that they are basically just young kids. And think about

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Speaker 2: Right when I think about that, and when I was

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Speaker 2: twenty two, I mean I was living in an underground apartment.

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Speaker 2: you're just starting out those sort of things and you're

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Speaker 2: trying to navigate. Oh my gosh, this is how I

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Speaker 2: learned to pay bills and just provide for yourself out

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Speaker 2: of your parents' house. Now, obviously she's got a much

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Speaker 2: much larger, substantial paycheck in which to help her enable

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Speaker 2: that situation, but still just a young person and you've

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Speaker 2: got this guy who's being a total creeper, and it

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Speaker 2: also shows that, you know, just the online harassment, how

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Speaker 2: it can turn into the real world situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you lose. Look, it's what you give up.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, don't cry for me, Argentine. These people

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Speaker 1: live charmed lives, but you give up. You don't realize

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Speaker 1: how much you need normalcy until you don't have it.

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Speaker 1: And these people give up, whether it's a Kaitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: of any sort of high profile give up. There really

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Speaker 1: sounds weird to say, but like they're right to normalcy.

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Speaker 1: Like that's the trade off is you get all this money,

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Speaker 1: you get this fame, and get this agulation, get this stuff,

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Speaker 1: You get this lavish lifestyle, and you can turn it off.

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Speaker 1: Like when you're not in season, you can in the

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Speaker 1: off season go retreat to whatever compound you've got, right.

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Speaker 2: But in season, you can't go into an Rby's right,

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Speaker 2: you can't.

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Speaker 1: You simply you give up the ability to do that.

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Speaker 1: And it's just something we lose sight of until something

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Speaker 1: there there are crazy people?

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Speaker 2: Did you know that she was dealing with this? How

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Speaker 2: does it affect her gameplay and her environment around her

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Speaker 2: teammates because she's living in fear when she's unprotected true.

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Speaker 1: Drew asked on the YouTube, has anyone ever asked me

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Speaker 1: for my autograph at the night with WIBC. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: kind of think it, like, we get a lot of pictures,

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Speaker 1: people want to take pictures.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm famous enough that people would want

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Speaker 1: my signature, Like it's not going to appreciate in value.

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Speaker 1: But we do get a lot of people who want

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Speaker 1: pictures or whatever. People want to come up and talk,

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Speaker 1: And I don't pretend to any anyway be close to

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Speaker 1: anything to this, although we do get a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who hate us, and we do get a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun things in the mail and things like that,

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Speaker 1: but nothing we.

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Speaker 2: Have had threats before. I don't think, yeah, I've been

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Speaker 2: asked for my autograph before. More than anything, what I

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Speaker 2: noticed is people, what do you think of this?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they hear us talking about it every day,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, like my neighbor is always asking

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Speaker 2: me