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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone. Welcome into a Tuesday. A little bit

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Speaker 1: win try outside today, and I've seen it worse, but

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Speaker 1: I've seen it a little bit better. Just gonna go

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Speaker 1: a little bit slower today, a little icy in spots.

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Speaker 1: I came up from the north side, probably took me

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Speaker 1: about ten minutes longer to get here. Everybody was kind

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Speaker 1: of just plodding along doing their thing. A patch or

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Speaker 1: two of ice here and there. I know that, James,

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Speaker 1: you're fairly close here in the city. I was your

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Speaker 1: commuting probably not too bad, right.

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Speaker 2: No, it was fine. It's winter, snow is on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Drive slower. I always feel like accidents happened in the snow,

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Speaker 2: not because of the snow, because people do not know

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Speaker 2: how to drive in the snow.

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Speaker 1: Slow down, KB, you're kind of in between the two

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Speaker 1: of us. What was your commute like in this morning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of minutes longer side rows meh. Main

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Speaker 3: roads I thought were pretty fine though, So yeah, safe

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Speaker 3: travels to everybody out there. I know a lot of

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Speaker 3: two hour delay, so definitely check that out. WBC's got

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Speaker 3: an updated list for those that it's part of the

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Speaker 3: morning routine. Make sure you check that out and I

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Speaker 3: think snow on November thirtieth and December first, just to.

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Speaker 1: And I'm over it. I'm over it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: ever since I had the heart attack six years ago,

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Speaker 1: I have to take those blood thinner in the morning, right,

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Speaker 1: and so I get colder a lot easier. I'm just

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Speaker 1: letting y' all know now. I am full Long John

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Speaker 1: underneath the pants. I got the bass layer, long sleeve

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Speaker 1: bass layer underneath the shirt that's underneath my sweater. I

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Speaker 1: am toasty and ready to go.

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Speaker 3: James Boyd, you look like you're ready for Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: IU Outdoors. Let's go years ago.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Put them on and I'll be there.

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Speaker 4: Ricord's rocking the Long John's, Oh yeah, yes, are up here.

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Speaker 1: Get those nice little tech ones. They're all black, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, they very nice, very warm. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Everything is nice and toasty, as it should be.

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Speaker 4: Marked Dan, Dan, this is more information than I need.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I will say we got some relatively positive news.

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Speaker 2: I would say, Kevin on the Colt's injury front, if

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Speaker 2: you want to fill people in for those who.

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Speaker 5: Only have a few minutes here early in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I was curious how you a transition. Were you going

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Speaker 3: to go, Well, the pay weren't very toasty last night,

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Speaker 3: but the Colts injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured I wouldn't take too many shots at

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Speaker 2: the Pacers right now?

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Speaker 5: Did they want to their last three?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sauce Gardner just a strained calf. And I say

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Speaker 3: just a strain calf because you know, anytime you see

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Speaker 3: the manner in which he went down yesterday, I was

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Speaker 3: actually listening to a little bit of Pat McFee. Tyrese

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Speaker 3: Haliburton mentioned, I guess to Pat and the sweet when

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Speaker 3: he saw it, he thought, oh no, and obviously Tyres

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Speaker 3: Haliburton would be quite the source unfortunately when it comes

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Speaker 3: to that. So, yeah, strain calf going to miss some time.

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Speaker 3: Shane Stekind said, IR is not a possibility. So that

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Speaker 3: means within a four week window expect the return of

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Speaker 3: Sauce Gardener and the Achilles is good to go. So

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Speaker 3: I think by far the disastrous scenario has been avoided

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Speaker 3: with that. Obviously he's going to miss some time and

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Speaker 3: that is notable. But at some point here in the

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Speaker 3: next month, again there's only five games left, but at

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Speaker 3: some point here in the next few weeks, you should

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Speaker 3: probably expect him back.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic news, But I don't know you. They were

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Speaker 1: more nervous yesterday because of the way he was answering

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Speaker 1: questions in the locker room post game, right, James, because

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Speaker 1: you couldn't get a read on yeah, I mean what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said both things like I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: an achilles, but I can't say it's not an achilles,

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Speaker 2: and so you wait for more information, which you got yesterday,

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Speaker 2: which was positive. Now they did say, and shout out

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Speaker 2: to Kevin for asking this question, that IR is not

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Speaker 2: a possibility injured reserve, meaning if you were to go

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Speaker 2: four more games, which would knock him out until the

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Speaker 2: regular season finale. However, Shane Stikeen said, they're not considering

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Speaker 2: that he gave a defensive yes when asking if sauce

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Speaker 2: Gardner will play again this year. So perhaps it's more

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Speaker 2: like the kennymore the second situation from about a month

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Speaker 2: or two ago where he missed some time with an

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Speaker 2: achilles strain, and I think it was a three game

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Speaker 2: app since Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Anything else of note that Shane Stikeen was talking about.

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Speaker 1: Asked about let everybody in on yesterday.

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Speaker 5: After that game, Kevin's best friend Michael Bagley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see about a kicker try out. I think

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Speaker 3: there will be something, but we'll keep an eye on

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Speaker 3: that throughout today. You know, last time they did the

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Speaker 3: kicker try out on a Tuesday, that is player's day

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Speaker 3: off for those unfamiliar with how the Colt schedule works.

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Speaker 3: Then they'll get back to work coming up tomorrow in

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Speaker 3: full earnest. And I do say this half seriously. I

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Speaker 3: am curious how the weather will impact that. I mean, James,

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Speaker 3: you remember what this is about a month and a

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Speaker 3: half ago, Like Brett Rippen couldn't get here on time

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Speaker 3: in perfect weather. You know, he missed the first practice

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Speaker 3: as a cult. So you know, I you know these

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Speaker 3: kickers are not you know, you're not sending there say

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Speaker 3: jets to go pick up. You know, Matthew Wright and Harrison.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to win. You don't want to win.

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Speaker 3: Who are random kickers out there? Is Eddie Pinero kicking,

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Speaker 3: Marcus Cairo Santos kicking. There you go. So yeah, Shane

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Speaker 3: was very noncommittal on it. He played the all defer

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Speaker 3: to Chris unfortunately is not available during.

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Speaker 5: The seasons again by Joel A.

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Speaker 2: Erickson, and then he hit us with the well, I

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Speaker 2: love badge of the player, and I feel like whenever

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Speaker 2: I was growing up, he took coach.

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Speaker 3: Michael Badgeley a little bit, a little bit more like

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Speaker 3: in the He's my son light than I recall.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's definitely.

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Speaker 3: And he loved him. How many times he said that

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Speaker 3: he loves players on well, he says he loves.

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Speaker 2: A lot of players, at least earlier this year. I

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Speaker 2: would think, backup, kicker, that's my thing though. I feel

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Speaker 2: like when you're struggling and the coach says I love you,

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Speaker 2: not a good sign perhaps for what's to come.

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Speaker 3: He does have history with Michael Badgley, for what it's worth.

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Speaker 3: They were together in a previous stop. But still we'll see,

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Speaker 3: you know, there are anyway, if you guys want to

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Speaker 3: get into names, there are still some names from the

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Speaker 3: tryout back two months ago that are still out there.

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Speaker 3: Matthew Wright, you know I bring up that name. He

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Speaker 3: has kicked for three teams since then and has kicked

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Speaker 3: fairly well. They could you know, maybe sign a guy

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Speaker 3: it plays out here coming up today, because this is

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Speaker 3: when the kicker try had occurred last time.

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Speaker 1: But if he's kicked for like three teams, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: stuck with anybody, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, So their situations usually involved an injured kicker. Actually,

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Speaker 3: so yeah, kicked well, made all his kicks extra points

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Speaker 1: Oh the guy got healthy and that was that right,

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Speaker 1: all right, It makes a lot of sense. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: I got a lot to talk about today. It is

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Speaker 1: a winter full on. That's what happened sometimes the first

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Speaker 1: week of December, I felt like there was a nice

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Speaker 1: The winters just weren't that severe and we might have

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Speaker 1: got spoiled by that.

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Speaker 5: Do you think there's.

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Speaker 3: Anything louder than the hit of an upright in an

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But it's more.

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Speaker 3: Of the louder noises I feel like I hear that's loud.

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Speaker 2: I do think the mics at Pacers games are loud,

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Speaker 2: Like when you've shoot a brick at a Pacers game,

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Speaker 3: Is there a mic inside the upright too. There might

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Speaker 3: be can we get one on it for fair Baron's

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Speaker 3: extra points? We probably need that, But damn, I mean

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Speaker 3: I went badhen was watching the game yesterday and I

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Speaker 3: hear that badgely missed extra point. Yeah, it sounded like

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Speaker 5: Not ideal.

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Speaker 1: I felt that in my soul when that one hit

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Speaker 2: Party, I would ask you the question, there's got to

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Speaker 2: be a mic on there.

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Speaker 5: There's got to be a mic.

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Speaker 3: It was so loud, and that extra point started left

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Speaker 3: to the upright. It was a miracle that it got

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Speaker 3: back to the upright.

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Speaker 1: But it was closure of going through than the one

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Speaker 1: that was counted good by tennessee later on or by Uh.

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Speaker 5: I can't go that far.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I've watched it a million times. Was not good.

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Speaker 5: One guy like clearly hit it that that that just see.

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Speaker 1: The other guy missed it. I'm telling you, if those

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Speaker 1: doesn't even hit the upright.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can get into this.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's move on there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm holding it. I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: I'll fight on the hill till I know the Pacers

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Speaker 3: matched the weather last night, just no for in that

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Speaker 3: first quarter. I thought that was really disappointing for me

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Speaker 3: second night of a back to back, and yeah, Donovan

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Speaker 3: Mitchell obviously is unbelievable, but that first quarter lead was

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Speaker 3: built by effort with Cleveland and a lack of effort

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Speaker 3: by the Pacers. I think that's what's disappointing. It's, you know,

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Speaker 3: talent wise, you're out of deficiency, that's obvious. But the

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Speaker 3: second chance points just a huge, huge number played from

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Speaker 3: behind the whole game, and you're not going to get

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Speaker 3: back in that game. So, yes, the shame says, you've

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Speaker 3: won two of three. But still last night, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think Vegas had it a four and a half

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Speaker 3: point spread. You know, you felt like, okay, is this

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Speaker 3: one of these where you're catching the team in the

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Speaker 3: right scheduled mindset, you know, in terms of back to back,

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Speaker 3: could you be a little bit more competitive, and boy,

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Speaker 3: you just got you just got beat to every loose

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Speaker 1: No like that, but turnovers were a problem, and they

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Speaker 1: just to your point one one more. Not just loose balls,

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Speaker 1: but rebounds too, the rebounds and turnovers with a difference

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Speaker 1: in that game last night, because I don't think I

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Speaker 1: think ultimately what Cleveland shot like fifty one percent, Indiana

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Speaker 1: shot forty nine percent, and it wasn't that big sta.

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Speaker 3: Points killed you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta go get those other rebounds, possessions. Possessions will

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Speaker 1: get you, And that's what happened last night. But there

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Speaker 1: was a moment, did it feel when they got to

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Speaker 1: within six at the very end, towards the end of

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, like maybe a second night of a

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Speaker 1: back to back for Cleveland, Maybe they're starting to run

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Speaker 1: out of steam. Maybe Indiana can get on a little

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Speaker 1: run here. I thought that was gonna be the case.

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Speaker 1: Then I think Cleveland finished the third with a three

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Speaker 1: and scored the first few points of the fourth.

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Speaker 2: His girlfriend is no Mark, No Coco Jones, who is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: You shovel his pathway away.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen straight And they've played, haven't they played in that

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Speaker 5: The announcers jinks the Kevin Bonen Kiss of death.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Butler will play on the radio here

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Speaker 1: ninety three five, one of seven. Five to the fan

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Speaker 1: Missouri plays Who tonight Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna be brewing the midnight Oil in the

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Speaker 1: Nine pm. Tip for Missouri Notre Dame this evening. Missouri's

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Speaker 3: By the way, Yes, Notre Dame really needs it, really

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Speaker 1: I will be asleep probably, but thanks for the invite.

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Speaker 1: You gonna be rocking Nelly to sleep.

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Speaker 5: I ain't say all that.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 7: Man off for the extra point is Michael Badsley and

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Speaker 2: That's a gong shout out to Matt Taylor man from

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Speaker 5: It sounds like a firework one.

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Speaker 1: the Colts on Sunday play.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather do that or do what the whe

439
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Speaker 3: kid did last night? Bad week for hose yep, first

440
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Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin and then Kicker. I immediately thought of Kevin

441
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Speaker 3: when that happened. What I saw last night, that's worse,

442
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Speaker 3: that's terrible. How do you pump fake a field goal?

443
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Speaker 5: Attempt.

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Speaker 3: How did he not get hurt? That's my first thought.

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Speaker 1: When you just drag your your kicking foot into the

446
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Speaker 1: ground a good foot and a half.

447
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Speaker 3: That was no drag. That man chunk it. That divot

448
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 3: when further than the rope, He's lucky. That was in

449
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Speaker 3: a grass field there. That looked like some of my

450
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Speaker 3: golf shots back in the day. I thought it was

451
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Speaker 3: an AI video when I first saw it, I thought,

452
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Speaker 3: no way, an NFL kicker is kicking this far behind

453
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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 1: I was watching the Manning cast. They were having a

455
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Speaker 1: great time with that one last night, because you know

456
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Speaker 1: Peyton loves kickers. I don't know if you were aware

457
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Speaker 1: of that or not.

458
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Speaker 2: By the way, like vander Jack very close, the Giants

459
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 2: are a complete joke. I know this isn't a New

460
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Speaker 2: York station, but I just want to get that off

461
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Speaker 2: my chest. They are complete garbage. That kick attempt a

462
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Speaker 2: dual car number three pick. I guess sleeping through meetings

463
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: and not showing up, getting bench to start the game again,

464
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Speaker 2: and then Jackson Dark getting lit up on the sideline

465
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Speaker 2: because you can't get out of bounds, and then saying afterwards,

466
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Speaker 2: well it's football, you should probably watch my high school

467
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Speaker 2: tape and how I played. All of you are clowns.

468
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Speaker 5: All of you.

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Speaker 1: Uh, this is not high school anymore, Jackson. These are

470
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Speaker 1: guys that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm all right, I hope I don't

472
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Speaker 2: like look up in five years not playing in the

473
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Speaker 2: NFL anymore, dude.

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Speaker 6: Man.

475
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Speaker 1: By the way, that one game in the NFL last night,

476
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Speaker 1: New England did beat the New York Giants thirty three

477
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Speaker 1: to fifteen. The one thing that did stuck stand out

478
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Speaker 1: in that game. I don't know if you guys were

479
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Speaker 1: paying to Drake may Can play football. There were a

480
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Speaker 1: couple of throws he made. They were just yeah, a

481
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Speaker 1: couple of really impressive deep balls. So now New England

482
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Speaker 1: heads to the by eleven and two. They are the

483
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Speaker 1: one seed, a half game up on the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: So just four weeks left and right now the AFC

485
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Speaker 3: will go through Foxborough, which in this market we have

486
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Speaker 3: said quite often over the last fifteen twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Anything else you guys want to throw him before we

488
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Speaker 1: move along here. All right, we'll talk more about the

489
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Speaker 1: Colt Spacers and some highly ranked basketball teams locally as

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Speaker 1: we continue through the morning. Here, it's ninety three five

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Speaker 1: and one oh seven five to the face.

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Speaker 7: Alec Pierce with thirty eight receiving yards on that possession.

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Speaker 7: Man off for the extra point is Michael Bagsley and

494
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Speaker 7: as you heard in the background, it's smacks off the

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Speaker 7: left upright and it's no good.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard this one for quite a while, Mark Dykeden,

497
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Speaker 1: Where did you come up with that one? There?

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Speaker 5: Going bank of songs here?

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Speaker 4: I like the day figured ice cube is always solid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But speaking of ice cube, it's mid twenties right now.

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Speaker 1: I just went across the hall at WIBC. All the

502
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Speaker 1: school delays are on their website right now at WIBC

503
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Speaker 1: dot com. And they did tell me two hour delay

504
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Speaker 1: for all IPS schools at this point in time.

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Speaker 5: So we start to list. We used to have to

506
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Speaker 5: watch the TV like it was a Super Bowl, like

507
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Speaker 5: it was the raft.

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Speaker 1: Wait for the crawl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like watching them for the lottery.

510
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Speaker 5: Now it's all on Twitter, it's all online. These kids

511
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Speaker 5: don't know.

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Speaker 3: Nothing flipping channels. Are they closest to my letter in

513
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Speaker 3: the alphabet?

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Speaker 6: I know? Man?

515
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Speaker 2: And then if you missed your letter, you're like, oh

516
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Speaker 2: my gosh, do I wait here does mom, just trying

517
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Speaker 2: to see if the school's open.

518
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Speaker 4: You turn it on and you just missed the letter.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can wait another fifteen minutes now.

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Speaker 3: For those at the end of today morning commute, I

521
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Speaker 3: didn't think it was too too bad by any means.

522
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Speaker 3: Side roads pretty math, but I thought once you got

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Speaker 3: to the main roads just kind of wet, so save travel. Certain,

524
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Speaker 3: But I think we're all in the general agreement from

525
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Speaker 3: our different areas of town that the morning commute maybe

526
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Speaker 3: a little bit longer, but nothing too strenuous today.

527
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they've got a lot smarter as time

528
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Speaker 1: has gone on. Back in the old days, when it was,

529
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Speaker 1: you know, just horses and wagons. For me, James growing

530
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Speaker 1: up in Colorado, we missed. I missed my entire life.

531
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Speaker 1: They sent us home in the middle of the day

532
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Speaker 1: one time in Colorado uphill both ways. No, it was

533
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Speaker 1: just it was snow. You deal with it, put the

534
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Speaker 1: chains on the car and go. It's probably a little

535
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Speaker 1: smarter now with insurance and everything else going on they

536
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Speaker 1: used to have, so these kids they've got it better today.

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Speaker 1: People got smarter as we got older. I think, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: there is what happened.

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Speaker 4: So did they even have snow days anymore.

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Speaker 2: They just do like imact like is that a thing

541
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Speaker 2: where they just well, like so if Jake and Grant

542
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Speaker 2: can't come in for school, they say, Okay, we're gonna

543
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Speaker 2: hop on the iPad for the day. I would hate that.

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Speaker 2: I kind of liked the era I grew up in

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Speaker 2: where like we didn't have We had some technology, but

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Speaker 2: we didn't have And.

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Speaker 3: I always feel like e learning for like the elementary kids.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are these dudes just hopping on these

549
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Speaker 3: young kids just hopping on their zooms?

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Speaker 2: Lear any means that you're going to be e learning

551
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Speaker 2: as well, right, So no child care for you, Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I trust me. It seems very difficult.

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Speaker 1: So check your specific school and district. But a lot

554
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Speaker 1: of folks in the area are working on at least

555
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Speaker 1: one and a half hour two hour delays this morning

556
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Speaker 1: on their way to school. And like I said, coming

557
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Speaker 1: in from the north side on the highway, a little

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Speaker 1: bit slower, Kevin, But I didn't find it too terrible.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that bad?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple extra minutes from me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like right around the corner, James. You

562
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Speaker 1: could probably walk the work as quickly as you drive

563
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Speaker 1: the work, didn't.

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Speaker 2: You, No, not at all. That would be a very

565
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Speaker 2: long walk. But I enjoy driving and living close enough

566
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Speaker 2: to drive here.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's what's going on on a Tuesday morning here.

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Speaker 1: It's ninety three five, one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 1: The Colts coming off a tough loss at home, a

570
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Speaker 1: divisional loss against the Houston Texans. They get ready for

571
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Speaker 1: another divisional game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and all at

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Speaker 1: all for a Monday games, it sounds like pretty good news,

573
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Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. The guy you just traded two first round

574
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Speaker 1: picks and Ady Mitchell for is not going to be

575
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Speaker 1: lost for the season at this point in time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Shane did say he expects him to play

577
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Speaker 2: and be back this season. And then on top of that,

578
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Speaker 2: it was a great question by Kevin to follow up

579
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Speaker 2: and then say, okay, Well is injured reserve of possibility,

580
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Speaker 2: which means an automatic four game absence, and he.

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Speaker 5: Definitively said no.

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Speaker 2: So they'll put more on the plate of the other guys,

583
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Speaker 2: starting with Shavarious Ward. And then I would say less

584
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Speaker 2: heralded players being Jayleen Jones and Makai Blackman.

585
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Speaker 1: How do we feel about the state of the secondary

586
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Speaker 1: right now without Sauce Gardner and a diminished Mooney right now,

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Speaker 1: Mooney Ward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, let's play this audio from Mooney Ward yesterday.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talked a little bit about it on

590
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Speaker 3: yesterday's show. I feel like over the last couple of weeks,

591
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Speaker 3: Ward in particularly is a step slow, since coming back

592
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Speaker 3: from the concussion and cornerback to me is a position

593
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Speaker 3: where when you are step slow, everybody sees it. Everybody

594
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Speaker 3: can see it. And I thought, and I guess, just

595
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Speaker 3: go over everything with money War. The man has been

596
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Speaker 3: through just unimaginable, frankly things over the last year year plus.

597
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Speaker 3: Lost his young daughter a year ago. You know, we

598
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Speaker 3: talked a little bit about the concussion symptoms that he

599
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Speaker 3: had last month, was pondering if he would play football

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Speaker 3: ever again. So whether you want to look at it

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Speaker 3: from the personal tragedy or his professional life, he clearly

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Speaker 3: is dealing with a lot. And I think he's been

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Speaker 3: pretty candid throughout this past year about how that stuff

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Speaker 3: has clearly impacted him, and he mentioned yesterday it's impacting

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Speaker 3: his play right now on the field.

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Speaker 8: I just just got to get my mind right and

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Speaker 8: my heart right, you know, once you know, once I

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Speaker 8: get my mind right, my heart right, I think my

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Speaker 8: physical physical body and the way I perform.

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Speaker 1: That'll be good.

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Speaker 8: But like I said, as long as my mind claudy,

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Speaker 8: I don't really play good all the time. So I'm

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Speaker 8: just trying to you know, focus in like and get

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Speaker 8: you know, get get focused in. I think I started

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Speaker 8: playing better.

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Speaker 5: Definitely feel for him.

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Speaker 2: That was in response to when I asked him, what

618
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Speaker 2: areas of your game do you think you need to improve.

619
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Speaker 3: Because he said he wasn't playing to his standard previous exactly.

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Speaker 2: And again this was not me thinking, oh, he'll take

621
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Speaker 2: this on a more personal journey route. It was in

622
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Speaker 2: my mind, I don't know something about technique or film

623
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Speaker 2: study or being a little quicker with your hands whatever.

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Speaker 2: And he really kind of opened up his heart a

625
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Speaker 2: little bit and vented about, well indirectly, about some of

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Speaker 2: the things he's been through. So I do feel for him,

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Speaker 2: and I do wonder how much of that weighs on him.

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Speaker 2: Just all of a sudden, he's been through clearly, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and say, you know,

630
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Speaker 2: it's time for you to move on or it's time,

631
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Speaker 2: but it is a point where I think professionally the

632
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Speaker 2: Colts have to ask themselves, can't he get back to

633
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Speaker 2: that level?

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Speaker 5: And how can we help him do that?

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Speaker 2: And I just wonder what that process looked like when

636
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Speaker 2: he mentioned this more mental than physical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you look at the rest of the season,

638
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Speaker 3: James five weeks to go against Sauce Gardner, the expectation

639
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Speaker 3: based off a change I can said yesterday's he will

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Speaker 3: return sometime the next four weeks. If you look at

641
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Speaker 3: the schedule at Jacksonville at Seattle home to the forty

642
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Speaker 3: nine ers, those are the next three games. You know,

643
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Speaker 3: Kenny Moore early in the year deal with the calf injury,

644
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Speaker 3: missed three games. Okay, let's say Sauce misses those three.

645
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: That means he'd be back for Jacksonville Houston in the year.

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Speaker 3: Which you know, again, if you're ranking these games, they're

647
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Speaker 3: all important, but those two could be absolutely vital. Now,

648
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: of course, you got to position yourself to be in

649
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: a decent spot come week seventeen, but you know, if

650
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Speaker 3: you're going to rank these games, the NFC games would

651
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Speaker 3: be formed five on that list of just general importance. Again,

652
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Speaker 3: right now, without crowd of the AFC is, AFC South is.

653
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: Everything is important, But if you're gonna rank them, if

654
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Speaker 3: Sauce is going to miss games, those would be the games,

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Speaker 3: okay whatever. If you're gonna lose any those would be

656
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Speaker 3: the ones that you would want to lose there. But yeah,

657
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Speaker 3: I just I really feel for Mooney war and I

658
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: think it is clearly impacting his play on the field.

659
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: I would like see Kenny Moore and a little bit more,

660
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: just like of their base personnel. It seems like when

661
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: they have just seems like Mikaile Blackman's on the field

662
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: too much, I guess to summarize it succinctly, in my opinion,

663
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: they continue to outsnap Jaalen Jones with those reps. I'd

664
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: like to see Kenny frankly just be that outside corner

665
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: with Sauce out the next couple of weeks. But you know,

666
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: the Jags are really banged up at wide out, so

667
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: you know that's a little bit promising. But the week

668
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: after that, Jackson Smith and jigb has been the best

669
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: receiver in the league this season, so there you go that.

670
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: And he's been roasting everybody like no one has been

671
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: immune to what that guy's been doing. And you make

672
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: a great point, James. You always want a guy to

673
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: be able to get room to heal whatever is going

674
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: on with him physically, mentally, emotionally, whatever it is. You're

675
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: on his side. You want him to get better. But

676
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: there is a point where a team has to say, hey,

677
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: we're going to help you get better. But right now,

678
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: what's better for the cults is maybe we need to

679
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: do something a little bit different while you're on that

680
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: healing journey.

681
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just curious about that.

682
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: You know, can you get back to the love you're

683
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: supposed to if your mind and heart aren't one hundred

684
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: percent in it? And I'm not questioning the love of

685
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: the game. I mean clearly if you look at the

686
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: guy's story comes from nothing undrafted Jue Corau all the

687
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: above to getting not one but two pretty hefty deals

688
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL, being a second team All Pro, most

689
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: past defenses in a single season. I think of forty

690
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: nine er history, all the above. But yeah, how do

691
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: you again? I don't want to say get passed that

692
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: because you can't get past losing a kid or lose

693
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: anybody you love, But how do you try to find

694
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: the best version of yourself in this, I guess new

695
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: normal for yourself or new state of your life where

696
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: there is going to be some tragedy in the hard days.

697
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: So again, I feel for him.

698
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: Definitely don't want to speak out of turn when it

699
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: comes to what he's going through, but I appreciate the

700
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: candor as well. I mean, this is a guy who

701
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: he definitely when he gets in front of Mike, there's

702
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: probably some things that I don't know if I wear

703
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: his shoes, maybe I don't say, or I don't share.

704
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 5: But he's as real as they come, and I can

705
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 5: always respect that.

706
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just all wish the best for him, and

707
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: I hope that he continues to get through whatever he's

708
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: going through, because two of the three of us here

709
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: are dads. I can't even fathom what that must be

710
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: like Kevin, and you just hope the best for him

711
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: and his family and everything else. But on the other side,

712
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: there is a point for the Colts where they need

713
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: what they need as a football team.

714
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: How about al Pierce Well hail Mary bat Down on

715
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: Sunday show, Al cam.

716
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: Bine him too for saying that he would have picked

717
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: it because he was like, could you imagine he was like,

718
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: you're taught to bat it down, and Alix Piers did

719
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: when he was taught. But he was like, could you

720
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: imagine catching a touchdown pass in a game and then

721
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: catching a pick in the same game and you're not

722
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: high school anymore.

723
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: I mean when that ball was thrown, I mean he

724
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: obvious Pierce fashion, He literally positioned himself perfectly. Yeah, it'd

725
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: be the first one to touch it. I thought to myself,

726
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: if he picks us off, we might have an interesting

727
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: little fifty yard run back and see how long he

728
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: can make this happen here. But Alec Pierce, ever, the smart,

729
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: the former defender at Cincinnati.

730
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 5: That's his problem. He's not selfish enough.

731
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 3: Maybe he should play Maybe he should play corner right now.

732
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: Maybe you should have a little talk with him when

733
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 5: you meet the guy.

734
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shout out to Alex Pearce, who's actually from

735
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: near where I grew up, so I know him in

736
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: the family pretty well.

737
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: Man. He's turning into a terrific wide receiver. It's been

738
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. He saw last night

739
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Patriots got to win over the New York Giants in

740
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: a game that wasn't even nearly as close as the

741
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: score might indicate Drake may look fantastic. The Patriots are

742
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: sitting there at eleven and two on top of the AFC.

743
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Denver keeps winning games somehow, some way, by by crook,

744
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: they're ten and two, and then after that it's Jacksonville

745
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: eight and four. They will put the Ravens in the

746
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: fourth spot right now because they're leading their division at

747
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: just six and six, and then after that the Chargers

748
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: are eight and four and the Colts are eight and four,

749
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: So two are the Bills eight and four, And now

750
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: with that win, Houston is seven to five, just a

751
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: game behind Indianapolis. And losing three of these last four,

752
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: they've kind of lost that cushion they built up the

753
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: first ten weeks of the season.

754
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, there's no kind of about it. They have

755
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: lost it. So yeah, right now they are in the wildcard.

756
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: They have the sixth seed. Huge week, not only obviously Colts, Jaggs.

757
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: You mentioned Steelers and the Ravens right there, they are

758
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: tied atop the AFC North, So that is a big,

759
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: big game speaking from an AFC standpoint, and also Texans

760
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: Chiefs Sunday Night football right there, So yeah, we mentioned

761
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: it a little bit yesterday. I know people want just

762
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 3: get Kansas City out of there. Colts can't be greedy.

763
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: They need to root for the Chiefs on Sunday Night

764
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: football to beat Houston, and so I will continue to

765
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: keep an eye on that and again, any kicker movement today,

766
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: any kicker truts. Look, every option has warts when you're

767
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: dealing with a backup kicker. The problem for me with

768
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: Michael Basi right now is he has got warts in

769
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: two areas, three point shooting and layups. You can't have

770
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: warts in both. So who cares if you can't kick

771
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: from fifty plus your r It's fine. He's got to

772
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: make the layups and right now, those are the issues

773
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: that you have. So can you try and just band

774
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: aid that? Can you try and find somebody that at

775
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: least can give you steadiness from a layup standpoint. We'll

776
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: see how active the Colts are with kicker tryouts today

777
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: and what the rest of the week looks like.

778
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: Man all for the extra point is Michael Bagsley.

779
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: It's the loudest sound in sports, and I feel like

780
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: it's only happened in the last four years that all

781
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: of a sudden so loud. I think it started with

782
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: what's his name? Was it Parky Double?

783
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: How could I forget?

784
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that was right in your wheelhouse there, hunk.

785
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: Yep, Matt Naggy look like a buffoon on the sidelines.

786
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 5: What just happened? Your kicker stinks? And we knew that

787
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 5: all year?

788
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: By the way, shout out to Daniel Jones's college roommate.

789
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 3: I heard them say in the telecast that his roommate

790
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: from Duke made the pad that he wore around his

791
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: injured fibula, and earlier in his career he had developed

792
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: some sort of medical device that he used for a

793
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: I think it was a calf injury earlier in his career.

794
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: Can you imagine, like those are your college roommates?

795
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: Well, I liked how I was like, JJ Watt, what

796
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 4: are your roommates?

797
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 9: So?

798
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: And he's like probably drinking beer and being stupid.

799
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: I mean, my college roommate j got thirty seven parking

800
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: tickets in a month span. I mean, like that's the

801
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: most thing he's proud of.

802
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: Now, my cous roommate is living out in California, justice

803
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: side of LA and just bought a house, so he's

804
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: doing fairly well for himself.

805
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: Well, maybe. Yeah, I guess that's due education for you.

806
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shout out to my costroom is a mechanical

807
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: engineer and he is living the life. But yeah, I

808
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: did see that video and it looks like the pad

809
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: is on his left leg and it was three D printed,

810
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. And so yeah, smart roommates, and

811
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: I actually want to ask him about it, like, you know,

812
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: is this something where you really trust your you have

813
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: to really trust your college roommates with something like that,

814
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: Like how legit.

815
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: Is this business? Just going to team Yeah, I'm good, guys,

816
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: I've got my college to know.

817
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: He probably won't get into it, but I'm very curious

818
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: about how that whole process goes, because this isn't just oh,

819
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: my friend gave me a hat to wear and promote,

820
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: like this is legit. I need this to go out

821
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: there and perform at the highest level.

822
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 3: Buddy's got a printing T shirt business.

823
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: Remember who was the running back who got the big

824
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: hats started? And he wore the big hat after the

825
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: game and it became like a big hat. I don't know,

826
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 2: but it became like a thing for a little while.

827
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, yeah, my friend made this company

828
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: and it's big hats and it took off.

829
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 5: This is not that.

830
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: This is I need you to make sure my leg

831
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: holds up throughout the most crucial point of my career

832
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: in a very violent gang.

833
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: W do you Lane Kiffin rock in the big hat

834
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 3: at as LSU introductory pressor?

835
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 5: Did you see the left is closed just like outside? Husband?

836
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: I love that his war.

837
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: Sec, I love it.

838
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: He said that ole miss fans, we're trying to run

839
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: him off the road on the way to the airport,

840
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: and he said, I understand it.

841
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 5: It's the passion of the sec. I was gonna is nuts.

842
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: I believe him. Boy. The other part different down there, man.

843
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: The other part of that is, he also says, but

844
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: then I get here, l s U. It's been so

845
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: warm and everybody can't wait to see it and congratulates.

846
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, go on a three game losing streak

847
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: at streetport and find out how that works out.

848
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 10: Chef Kelly, how things are going right now? I'm sorry, Yeah,

849
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 10: they baton rouge. That whole area, Treeport baton rouge. Uh,

850
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 10: They'll turn on you so fast.

851
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: So Kevin, I don't know.

852
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm on a tangent here, but you are like my

853
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: resident college football watcher, expert type of guy.

854
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: I love college football.

855
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: Can you explain, I guess, briefly, if that's even possible,

856
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 2: what the heck happened with that? Because I'm so confused

857
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: he wanted to coach ole Miss. There's no way you

858
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 2: should be able to do that if you take another job.

859
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: But also it's unprecedented because you had a chance to

860
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: win a national championship, best program season they've had in

861
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: a long time, and you leave, but you would have

862
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: got paid the same amount of money, but LSU has

863
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: more resources. So I'm just like, Okay, I understand that

864
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 2: you made the move, but it's just weird. I feel

865
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: like there's so many tentacles, and every time I read something,

866
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: I'm more confused than before.

867
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: By the way, it's a great college of basketball. Sleeate tonight,

868
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: not just locally here if you're looking for something to

869
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: watch on Tuesdays, it's true. Basically, what I've gathered about

870
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: the Kevin story is Florida and LSU both wanted them really,

871
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: really bad.

872
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 6: Right.

873
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: Florida was more hesitant about letting the lanekiff and operation

874
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: be run in their backyard. There's a lot that goes

875
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: with Lane, and a lot of it maybe might be

876
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: a little bit questionable.

877
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 5: Did you kind of get like.

878
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: Not banished way? He was like not the hot ticket?

879
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: Do they go to Florida Atlantic?

880
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean hel Nick Saban fired him on

881
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: the tarmac and and you know he's got the U,

882
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: the Tennessee drama, the USC drama. So yeah, there's a

883
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: lot with Lane. I you know, I need.

884
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 5: A book on this.

885
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 3: So basically I think he views LSU is a little

886
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: bit more of a it's really hard to screw up.

887
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: But again, Brian Kelly is one of the few that

888
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: screwed it up. You know, when you look at it

889
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: from a head coach standpoint, what Les Miles at Ordron

890
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: and who else wanted to Yeah, I mean you know

891
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: all of it. You know, all those coaches seemingly just

892
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 3: followed a bet and you win there.

893
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: But also the only one that didn't get fired eventually

894
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: was Saban, who moved on to Alabama. The other two

895
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: guys that won national championships were fired not too long

896
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: after they won those nationals.

897
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: I think the old Miss nerves comes back to like

898
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: if we get back to being old Miss and you

899
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: start to have whatever seven win eight win seasons, will

900
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: they treat you like seemingly every other SEC program treats

901
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: you that seven to eight wins is not good enough?

902
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: And and I think Lane is also somebody that craves

903
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: a challenge and craves you know, wanting challenge to me

904
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: is the right word. But once a new opportunity.

905
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 5: He's only fifty when it comes to coaching.

906
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: Holly did the NFL thing.

907
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: When it comes to coaching exits, Lane Kiffin is on

908
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 4: the Mount Rushmore. He's all four heads because he's got

909
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: Al Davis given a PowerPoint as to why he's fired

910
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: in the NFL and escaping to Old the LSU and

911
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: all that it is.

912
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 6: I mean, read this story.

913
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: I read the story yesterday. It is from CBS Sports

914
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: about the Kiffin exit from Old Miss, and in there

915
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: they were describing the scene at the airport of the

916
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: Old Miss fans going the one finger salute towards coach

917
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: Kiffin as he boarded the plane. And I guess Charlie

918
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Weiss's son, I didn't realize Charlie Weiss's son was the

919
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator there. Charlie Weis Junior is also heading to LSU.

920
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: UH great writing detail here, James. You can appreciate this

921
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: boots on the ground journalism. It was mostly college age

922
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: young men decked out in new balances, but there were

923
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 3: alsoultiple children, including one infant wrapped in a blanket and

924
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: sucking on a pacifier. It's never too early, after all

925
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: to teach hate who what a bar? Well, if I

926
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: told Maddie, I'm heading to the local airport with Nelly,

927
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: we need to get out of the house into.

928
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 5: The regional airport. Gotta flip this guy off.

929
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: I've got outside.

930
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: When you get I got a middle finger to get

931
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: up in the air.

932
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

933
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: I love it.

934
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 2: The only thing I will not necessarily well, I guess

935
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: the defend laying on is when people tell me, oh,

936
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: we like he's in it for the money.

937
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 5: We all are. I'm gonna I'm gonna be very honest here.

938
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: What you getting the money, if you would have been.

939
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 5: Would have been the same if you're the old mess

940
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: side of that, right, it would have been the same, right, right.

941
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: But for those saying like oh, even if they didn't

942
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: give him the money, then then you're a liar. If

943
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: if anybody comes to you and say, hey, you can do

944
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: the exact same job in a different state for six

945
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: million dollars more.

946
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: You're leaving now.

947
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Again, a lot of that has to do with the

948
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: money would have been matched, but the resources I think

949
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: at LSU are probably better.

950
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: Can we all get on board of this opening night

951
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: of college football next year?

952
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 6: Yes?

953
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought about this, Yes night game, Yes, LSU

954
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: at I need this. Yes, inject into Vegas.

955
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 5: I actually think that he would have to have a

956
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 5: ton of security to go back there.

957
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: Yes, they said they go Ole Miss or LSU goes

958
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: the Ole Miss and Tennessee next year.

959
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: Oh, I just make make their schedule. All of Lane's

960
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: previous stops haven't played the Raiders to they're My only.

961
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Prediction is that whether it's two years, three years, four

962
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: years from now, it'll end the same way it always

963
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: ends with Lane Kiffeit it will not end well for

964
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: him there.

965
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: By the way, Florida at Duke, that's Cameron in door tonight,

966
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: Connecticut at Kansas Braylan Mullins back for the Huskies that

967
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: is at Allen Fieldhouse, And North Carolina.

968
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: At Rock is Darren Peterson back?

969
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: You think Darren Peterson The hope is he will play

970
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: him play in Vegas in that tournament there, so I

971
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: love that tonight he obviously got purduing Butler both playing tonight.

972
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: But from a local standpoint on campus venues, there should

973
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: be some great atmospheres and calle basketball.

974
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: When my kids were little, like like Nell he is,

975
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: my favorite thing to do was just sit on the couch,

976
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: hold them and watch sports.

977
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: I really thought for a second you were going to

978
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: say drive to the regional airport in Greek coaches.

979
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Never done that. Maybe I should put Maybe I need

980
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: to get that off my bucket list.

981
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who the Denver Broncos coach was

982
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: in nineteen, you know, ninety eight or something that you

983
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: could be booing Mike Shanahan.

984
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: It was Mike Shanahan at that point in time.

985
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: I guess you wouldn't be booing you.

986
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: He won two Super Bowls to walk it off there. Well,

987
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: it did end well for him.

988
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: Either Waite Phillips, you can give him the burden.

989
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: There you go. Coming up in a moment, we'll talk

990
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: Colts with Joel a Ericson right here on ninety three

991
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: five and one oh seven to five of the Fan.

992
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: This is the predictable moment in time for anybody who

993
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: works in sports, television, sports radio, whatever, the people you

994
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: kind of know all of them now want to know, Hey,

995
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: can you get me tickets to the game on Saturday?

996
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: Have you gotten that yet? Kevin the Indiana Can you

997
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: know where I can find some tickets? Are you getting

998
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: any of that? Yeah?

999
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: Good luck? Right, I just.

1000
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: Looked this up during the break, anything from if you

1001
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: want to go to like nosebleed seats right now, you

1002
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: can get secondary tickets at about four hundred and sixteen dollars.

1003
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: What do you think, James, you would be paying if

1004
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: you wanted to get Row one thirteen. I'm sorry, Section

1005
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: one thirteen, Row three. This is over at Lucas Oil YEP,

1006
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: Saturday night, Indiana, Ohio State.

1007
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 5: Oh, you're playing at least what five grand?

1008
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Three thousand, two hundred and forty two dollars?

1009
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 5: Get out on it now for at five grand?

1010
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have my high school principal reach out to me.

1011
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: I want to say, might have.

1012
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: Been Facebook because that Taylor Swift.

1013
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: Was coming to town a few years ago, Yeah, Indianapolis,

1014
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: and he was asking me, because the Colts player Lucas

1015
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: Oil Stadium, if I could help him get tickets for him,

1016
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: his wife and his daughter, and I like the guy.

1017
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 5: I respect him, but I wanted to.

1018
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: I responded and said, no, that is not necessarily something

1019
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: I can really help you with. But I wanted to

1020
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: send him ticketmaster dot com so badly because that was

1021
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: one of the dumbest requests ever got in my life.

1022
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 3: Gosh, what if you would have said that to him?

1023
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: How would that have been? Like any relief if you

1024
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: like finally saying to the principal, you're an idiot?

1025
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: No, I mean he's actually a really cool Dude's I

1026
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: never had any issues with him. I just thought that

1027
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: he was delusion or I honestly thought way too highly

1028
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: of me.

1029
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: Hardest football ticket in the last ten years for that building,

1030
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: is that what we have decided on. You got to

1031
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: go back to twenty thirteen for Peyton Manning's return. Sure

1032
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: seems like that twenty twelve for the Super Bowl. I

1033
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: guess Georgia Alabama national title was a big, big ticket,

1034
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: you know a few years back.

1035
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: But but you got a much wider pool of people

1036
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: looking for those tickets too well.

1037
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: And also it's driving distance for Indiana Ohio state fans.

1038
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's turn our attention very quickly. Now of the

1039
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. They'll be traveling to Jacksonville on Sunday, and

1040
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: boy do they need a win. They need some good news.

1041
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: And here to tell us nothing but good news. I'm

1042
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: sure joy Ericson in the Star covers the Colts joins

1043
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: us on the pay Less Liquors hotline. Right, Joel, nothing

1044
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: but good news today? Right?

1045
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 5: Uh?

1046
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 6: Maybe not?

1047
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: What can you tell us? Do we have any good news?

1048
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 11: Well, it's good that it's good that Zaus Gardner's calf

1049
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 11: injury is is not the season ending is not does

1050
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 11: not appeared to be something that's going to keep him

1051
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 11: out the entire time, So that that is good news.

1052
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 11: I know there was a lot of a lot of

1053
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 11: people who watched that happen and thought, you know, their

1054
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 11: mind went.

1055
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: To the worst right away.

1056
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 11: But it sounds like even after a lot of times

1057
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 11: when you talk to a player in the locker room

1058
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 11: after after they get hurt, they'll say, you know, I

1059
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 11: think I'm going to be fine, and then uh, it

1060
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 11: turns out that, you know, the MRI disagrees. But this time,

1061
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 11: this is this is one of the times that the

1062
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 11: player was right about their own their own injury and

1063
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 11: it's not a season ending or or something like that.

1064
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: I just remember standing in the scrum after the game

1065
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: with Sauce Gardner in front of us, and of course

1066
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of cameras and reporters and Sauces describing

1067
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 2: the injuries like, yeah, it felt like it was more

1068
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: high up in my CAF, not really lower. And then

1069
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I have Joel behind me. He's going it was high.

1070
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, it was high. And for a second

1071
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: there I thought he asked him are you high? And

1072
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: I was like whoall, Like this is not an appropriate

1073
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: time to be asking those questions. But nevertheless, Shoe positive

1074
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: news on that front. But we were talking about this

1075
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: yesterday on the show in regard to the poor port,

1076
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: and so I'll say the scene a little bit. I

1077
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: saw the flag not a flag on kennymore than second

1078
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: for the defensive pass interference, and I was thinking, man,

1079
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: I'm always making jokes to Joel, who is our poor

1080
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: reporter at these games, about having to do a poor

1081
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: port for something tiki tak, but went over this time

1082
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: and I was serious. I said, Hey, Joel, we might

1083
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: need a poor port for real. So can you give

1084
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: the listeners behind the scenes of what an actual poor

1085
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: port looks like if you're the reporter involved in doing it.

1086
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.

1087
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 11: You have to reach out to the league, usually through

1088
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 11: whoever's in charge at the game. You reach out to

1089
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 11: the league, and they want you to They want to

1090
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 11: know exactly what you want to ask about. So for example, uh,

1091
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 11: it wasn't enough to say, you know, the play work

1092
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 11: anymore was called for past interference because you also had

1093
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 11: to say you wanted to ask about the delay of

1094
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 11: game penalty.

1095
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: You can't just say.

1096
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 11: One play and and then and then they want to

1097
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 11: know that ahead of time.

1098
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: I get a phone call.

1099
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 6: I know.

1100
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 11: I saw some people saying, like I, I hope you

1101
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 11: guys were sitting in that room laughing at these these answers.

1102
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 11: But that's the thing. There is no room.

1103
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 6: It's it's it's a phone.

1104
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 11: Usually it's me in the tunnel because obviously we have

1105
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 11: to get in the locker room and and talk to players.

1106
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 11: It's it's a phone call. It goes through the league

1107
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 11: to the even though even though again Clay Martin, the referee,

1108
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 11: within the same building we were, it's a phone call.

1109
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 11: And then, like I said, the hardest part is I

1110
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 11: think the hardest part is that you go down thinking

1111
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 11: you know what the explanation is going to be for

1112
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 11: a call and getting ready to ask follow up questions

1113
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 11: on that, and then if it changes, you don't have

1114
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 11: the replay in front of you to come up with

1115
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 11: something to ask right away. So like, for example, with

1116
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 11: Kenny Moore's past interference, I was getting ready to ask

1117
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 11: a follow up question about whether or not tangled feet

1118
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 11: should be allowed to be a you know, be part

1119
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 11: of a penalty, because in my understanding it's not, and

1120
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 11: then the referee says that they called it because of

1121
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 11: an arm grab, and I got to be honest, I

1122
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 11: didn't see.

1123
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 6: An arm grab.

1124
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 11: Point in that play when I watched the replay up

1125
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 11: in the press box, and so then you know, the

1126
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 11: follow up I kind of lose it because I was

1127
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 11: thinking one thing and then I'm.

1128
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 6: Trying to think they're an arm rep.

1129
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 11: I don't remember there being much really any contact at all,

1130
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 11: and and it kind of throws you off a little bit.

1131
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 11: So that's that's another thing. Is the other thing is,

1132
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 11: like I know some people wanted us to ask about

1133
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 11: face masks. If you saw the answers that we get it,

1134
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 11: they kind of come back, and they just they just

1135
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 11: stated as if the the penalty was the most obvious

1136
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 11: thing in the world. We don't get really an explanation.

1137
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 11: They just tell us this this happened, and this is

1138
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 11: the way it works. And it doesn't really matter how

1139
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 11: you follow up either. That that's kind of just what they.

1140
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: What they do.

1141
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: Joel nothing against you, certainly. I just think the Pool

1142
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: report is so dumb, like, at least in the NBA

1143
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: town to minut report, they will admit if they're right

1144
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: or wrong. That's the day after the fact. The Pool

1145
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: report happens ten minutes after the game ends. They're never

1146
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: going to admit that they're wrong. They're just going to

1147
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: state exactly what you just said there about Kenny Moore.

1148
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: We thought there was whatever a grab at the top

1149
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: of the route. It's not like they're going to actually

1150
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: dissect the film, go over it, and then have the

1151
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: we were right, we were wrong, like the NBA two

1152
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 3: minute report, which I get, you know, people, I mean,

1153
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 3: there are a lot of fans out there that hate

1154
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: all these sort of two minute pool reports whatever, But

1155
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: at least from an NBA side of it, you'll get

1156
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: the right or wrong. The NFL you get none of that.

1157
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree. I mean I think the poor report

1158
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 11: system is essentially designed to make it so that there's

1159
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 11: less questions asked. Because if we're if all of us

1160
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 11: are shitting in a room and this the referee has

1161
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 11: coming in answer these questions, you know, Well, what happens

1162
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 11: in a press conference is your head might be going

1163
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 11: one way, my head might be.

1164
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: Going the other way. But that means we end up

1165
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: talking about.

1166
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 11: Both things that we're thinking about, Whereas with the pool report,

1167
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 11: you don't have that it's on the phone, you don't

1168
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 11: really have the chance to ask, you know, wide ranging questions.

1169
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 11: It's it also like there's also a piece of it,

1170
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 11: you know, I think James can James, you can back

1171
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 11: this up, Kevin, you can back this up. A lot

1172
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 11: of times when there's a call, we think about like, well,

1173
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 11: do we need a pool report on this? And we

1174
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 11: kind of know what you just said. We know that

1175
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 11: they're going to just say it as if it wasn't

1176
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 11: controversial or even really a tough decision at all, and

1177
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 11: so it's like do we need like do we need it?

1178
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 11: You know, do we need to go ask them for

1179
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 11: something that they're just going to kind of speak from

1180
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 11: like an alternate reality where this was really obvious.

1181
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 6: It is.

1182
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 11: It's designed, like I said, it's designed to to sort

1183
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 11: of to me, it seems like it's designed to sort

1184
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 11: of make it tamp down on criticism officials. I don't

1185
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 11: know if it works or not, but it doesn't give

1186
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 11: you a lot of leeway.

1187
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: No, it does not work. Joel A. Rickson from the

1188
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 3: Indiapols stories with us here on the Payloft Suckers hoighline.

1189
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: One thing before we move on, Joel, and you are

1190
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: a NFL Fashinado, you propose a rule change for you

1191
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: and see if you agree on it. I asked, and

1192
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: you walk down to us during the game on Sunday, Hey,

1193
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: what questions would you have for the pool report? And

1194
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: I said to you, and I think I already know

1195
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 3: the answer is delay a game reviewable? And I believe

1196
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: you did ask that, so I appreciate that. And it

1197
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: is not reviewable. Why don't we just do NBA shot

1198
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: clock for delay a game and when the red light

1199
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: comes on around the play the play clock, the play's

1200
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: dead and it's a five year penalty. Why is the

1201
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: unwritten rule there? You're allowed to have a forty first

1202
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: second to snap the ball.

1203
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 12: I'm told with you on this, I don't I don't

1204
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 12: know either, Like wait, the red, Like like you said,

1205
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 12: the red, the red comes up in the NBA, and

1206
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 12: we don't ever have to worry about this, and if

1207
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 12: there's ever a question, we just review it.

1208
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 11: They have replay assists. Now it doesn't have to take

1209
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 11: a long time. Like we have replay assists. They called

1210
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 11: down apparently to the refs, and they tell coaches things

1211
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 11: all the time that we don't necessarily know about. So

1212
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 11: why can't we make delay of game review? But like,

1213
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 11: it's not a subjective thing. It's not a judgment call.

1214
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 11: It is cut and dry, did you snap it or not?

1215
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 6: You know?

1216
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 11: Sunday's the way they basically answered that question was they

1217
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 11: just took us through the process of you know, well,

1218
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 11: if we see Zeros, we're supposed to look down and

1219
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 11: see if the ball snapped. And you know, if if

1220
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 11: they looked at if they looked at Zeros and looked

1221
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 11: down and see if the ball has been snapped on Sunday,

1222
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 11: and I mean it had to be that had be

1223
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 11: like the slowest lookdown of all time, right, that that

1224
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 11: play was that play was definitely a second or two off.

1225
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 11: If you have the red lights, if you have the review,

1226
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 11: the replay assist. I think that's a pretty obvious one.

1227
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 11: I think they should use that stuff for penalties. They

1228
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 11: don't like to do that in the NFL, but they

1229
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 11: should have replay four penalties that are cut and dry.

1230
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: Talking to Joeli Ericson and Andy Starr about the Indianapolis Colts,

1231
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: what do you think the head goes zero to one hundred.

1232
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: What are the chances Michael Badgeley is kicking field goals

1233
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: and extra points for the Cults on Sunday.

1234
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 11: Oh forty percent.

1235
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: That means we get tryouts this week, right, I.

1236
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 11: Thought, so? I mean I still don't. I went back

1237
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 11: and looked at what James takingsaid after he missed two

1238
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 11: kicks in Berlin, and he said, we have faith in

1239
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 11: Badge is what he said. Well, I was flying and

1240
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 11: James was walking around Berlin and all that stuff. That's

1241
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 11: what he said in the day after press conference that

1242
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 11: he usually does. He has not said that. He said

1243
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 11: he loved him. He said he's got to make those

1244
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 11: extra points. He knows that. And to me, that usually

1245
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 11: that kind of shift in tone with Shane's or shifting

1246
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 11: words or Shane's sake and means something it's not, it's not.

1247
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 6: Out of nowhere.

1248
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 5: I would agree.

1249
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: I would agree honestly when it comes to what Shane

1250
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: was saying. And I think Joel, your follow up yesterday

1251
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: he left the door open. He basically said the same

1252
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: thing he said after the game. We have faith in

1253
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: whoever we put out there, and that whoever My bows

1254
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: got raised little bit on that for sure.

1255
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:25,959
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1256
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 9: It.

1257
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 11: The other thing is like with with Badgeley, if he

1258
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 11: was missing fifty plus yard kicks that they were going

1259
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 11: to force to take, I think the Colts would be like, well,

1260
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 11: this is the trade off we made. We won the

1261
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 11: accuracy inside fifty. We didn't think that he was going

1262
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 11: to We knew he was gonna be a little bit

1263
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 11: dodgy outside of fifty. That's not what's happening, right, Even

1264
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 11: though he does have a mess from fifty, he's missing

1265
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 11: the kicks that they signed him to make.

1266
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's really, really well, said Joel A. Rickson

1267
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: from the Star with Us here on the Payloads Stickers

1268
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 3: hot Line. Joel, I the your one of the most

1269
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: stand up individuals I've come across in my time on

1270
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: this earth. You have three young boys. I would sign

1271
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: off on a marriage right now for one of my

1272
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: two daughters. Even Mark has said nice things about you before.

1273
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 3: Despite your Cubs and your Brewers' venom towards each other.

1274
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 5: We'd put a house divided.

1275
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: Sign up.

1276
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: That's fine, the Brewers and the Cubs sign up. Yes, exactly, Yes,

1277
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 4: house divided.

1278
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: If there's only one flagpole, who gets to fly the flag?

1279
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 6: Though?

1280
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: Whoever wins that day they both were rock paper scissors.

1281
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, Joel, I don't think there is a list

1282
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: of things you hate more in the world than the

1283
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: location of this game on Sunday. I have never heard

1284
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: a man talk about another city in the manner that

1285
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: Joel A. Ericsson talks about the city of Jacksonville, Florida.

1286
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: Now, this is the question. You have to ask him

1287
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: how long he's going to be in Jacksonville. That's the question, Joel,

1288
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: What is the itinerary? And do you hate anything in

1289
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: the world more than Jacksonville?

1290
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 6: Did he wise? Not?

1291
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 11: Not any city anybody's heard of, Not any city anybody's

1292
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 11: heard of. It's it's like there's like a few small

1293
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 11: towns in Wisconsin I still have beef with from high

1294
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 11: school football, but that's like, that's it. And so this,

1295
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 11: this is the great the great injustice of this season

1296
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 11: is that for the first time in like five years,

1297
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 11: I have to spend two nights in Jacksonville.

1298
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: Oh, how the hell did that press? Why don't I

1299
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: just drive? Why don't you just start, you know, leaving it?

1300
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, ten pm Saturday night. I don't know

1301
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: if you get there on time? Probably not.

1302
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 6: It didn't work out. My flight is supposed to land. James,

1303
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 6: James and Kevin know this.

1304
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 11: I frequently fly fairly late to games so I can

1305
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 11: make my kids games on Saturday. So my flight lands

1306
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 11: there at the normal time, which is very late, and

1307
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 11: I just go straight to bed and then wake up

1308
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 11: and go to this infernal thing they call a stadium,

1309
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 11: which I know they're putting up a new one. Suppose, yeah,

1310
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 11: you know that's gonna fix all whatever. It's still going

1311
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 11: to be in Jacksonville, Like there's it's I don't care.

1312
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 6: How new it is.

1313
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 11: It's not gonna be great. But normally I get leave

1314
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 11: the press box, do my thing, and go straight to

1315
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 11: the air to fly back out. I couldn't do that

1316
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 11: this year the flights did not work. My assumption is

1317
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 11: that any Colts fan who is going has heard me

1318
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 11: talk about this and thought, you know what, that's a

1319
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 11: really good idea, and so they're not saying in Jacksonville either.

1320
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 11: But I have I have many issues with Jacksonville. Number one,

1321
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 11: why is it so far inland?

1322
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 6: The ocean is right there.

1323
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: All of the cool people are like, well.

1324
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 11: Jacksonville's not that bad. There's this thing over here, Like

1325
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 11: that's not Jacksonville. That's like Jacksonville Beach, or it's done

1326
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 11: by PPC Sawgrass. Those are not Jacksonville. We have to

1327
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 11: spend our time in Jacksonville. The last time we were there,

1328
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 11: they had they were like doing road construction on the

1329
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 11: bridges or whatever, and instead of like making it look

1330
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 11: nice or whatever wherever you have to put this road signs,

1331
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 11: they just cut off pieces of old bridge and drop

1332
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 11: them by the side of the highway like you're just

1333
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 11: running a landfill at that point, like, come on with

1334
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 11: your with your city.

1335
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Speaker 6: All right.

1336
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: Fact, he just went on for over sixty seconds on

1337
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: the things he doesn't like about.

1338
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: You should jam in the media room.

1339
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 5: This's the pv PG version.

1340
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Gim me right now. I honestly think you know it.

1341
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: Tell Zyr Franklin, you go in the locker room early.

1342
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: They need to have Joel breakdown the huddle before this

1343
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: team heads into the locker room to describe Jacksonville on Sunday.

1344
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: If they told Joel, if you put a shovel on

1345
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: the ground and start digging, we'll move. We'll do Orlando

1346
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 4: a year early, he would start doing it.

1347
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 5: Probably, I'll do that.

1348
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: Would you rather the Jaguars be in London?

1349
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 11: Yes, oh, one thousand percent. London is a fantastic city.

1350
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 11: Jacksonville is a collection of buildings that just got stuck together.

1351
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: He's not wrong, He's not wrong. I just real quickly, Joel.

1352
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I just asked the computer for five random

1353
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: small towns in Wisconsin. You tell me if they're on

1354
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: your list or not. Okay, Okay, fish Creek now, Monroe now,

1355
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: Chipwall Falls. Uh.

1356
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 11: Chipple, where I'm from, is not small. Chipp is one

1357
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 11: of the larger towns around me.

1358
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: All right, Cedarburg, Peterberg is.

1359
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 11: We're getting closer there, but they're in the wrong part

1360
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:22,439
Speaker 11: of the state.

1361
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: So give me the one town that you just cannot

1362
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: stomach in Wisconsin. All right, I never would have gotten there.

1363
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 11: So made a big defensive they were, they're twelve, They're

1364
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 11: twelve miles away their arrival, and.

1365
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: Everything white out deeply to Joel on a crack legal crack.

1366
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 5: Speak there brother, it has been decades.

1367
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: He sounds like an SEC football fan going one finger

1368
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 3: salute to whatever that city is he just named.

1369
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: Joel, have a good day, man, Thanks for putting up

1370
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: with our nonsense.

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01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 6: You bet, guys, thanks for having me.

1372
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: There is joy ericson indies starting. Not a fan of

1373
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville I think, we know.

1374
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of truth behind that. I you know,

1375
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: I've probably been to that stage in three or four times.

1376
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: Not a big fan. And it's even more shocking the

1377
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 3: Colts have never won there. Do you believe in that?

1378
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: By the way, like, do you believe like there are

1379
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: players in the football team that actually think about the

1380
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: history and it's going to impact play on the field

1381
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 3: on Sunday.

1382
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: No, It's my favorite thing when I go through game

1383
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: notes when they say, especially when I was doing basketball,

1384
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: and I'd say the Cavaliers when visiting Indiana are thirty

1385
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: four and seventeen on Tuesday nights.

1386
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Nah, this is different. I do think this is

1387
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: a psychological thing. Seriously, Yes, I went there two years

1388
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: ago and they did score a point.

1389
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 5: A single point Daniel Jones on Sunday. Yes, it matters

1390
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 5: for all of them.

1391
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: But Daniel Jones has never been a part of these games.

1392
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: Well you mean, oh no, not for Daniel Jones, I

1393
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: don't I don't think anything matters to him.

1394
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 5: That guy watches film and whatever.

1395
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: But I do think just as a team, when you

1396
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: put the uniform on, Yes, gonna make any sense to me.

1397
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: But yes, so him included all of them. I don't

1398
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: care because it doesn't matter if you look at the streak.

1399
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: He doesn't matter who suited up for him. They all

1400
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: go down there and lose. So I think it matters.

1401
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's check it down all. I am open

1402
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: and ready to accept any Jacksonville slander at all, all

1403
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: week long, Kevin.

1404
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: All nervous, started off with I'm opening ready.

1405
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 6: I was nervous where you were there.

1406
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: I was like, let's just get into the Pacers or

1407
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: Monday Night Football or everyone has a long John's on.

1408
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: You just heard about the Colts and the Jaguars. Sunday

1409
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: at one o'clock in the City of Jacksonville. Sauce Gardner

1410
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: will not play, but will not be lost for the

1411
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: season either.

1412
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: It sounds like James about the best case scenario you

1413
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: can ask for. After he left Sunday's game with a

1414
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: non contact injury. It is just a calf and quoting

1415
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: Shane sich And, he said the achilles is good to go.

1416
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: All right, we wait to see whether or not there

1417
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: will be actual kicker tryouts today or sometime this week,

1418
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: usually on Tuesdays, though, right, Kevin.

1419
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you, I guess cult are gonna walk through.

1420
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: They didn't walk through again to Marrow James.

1421
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: I'll have to check the schedule.

1422
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: I think they are, but yeah, typically those would be

1423
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: on a Tuesday, and then Wednesday through Friday is kind

1424
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: of your big practice portion of the week. So we'll

1425
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: see if that news shriggles out at all today.

1426
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Indiana Pacers. They had

1427
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: one two in a row before last night, playing at

1428
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: the field House against the Cleveland Cavaliers. Cleveland got out

1429
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: to a quick start twice they built leads of twenty

1430
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: one points. The Pacers tried to come back a little

1431
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: bit in the third quart of it never got closer

1432
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: than six one thirty five one to nineteen the final score.

1433
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell leading the way with an electric forty three

1434
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: points for the Cavaliers last night, but they were out

1435
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: rebounded and they just had too many turnovers last night.

1436
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, you know, obviously Donovan Mitchell out talented. You know,

1437
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 3: so many players on the floor last night. But how

1438
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 3: Cleveland largely built that lead though, was through effort and

1439
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: second chance points. And given the Pacers makeup right now,

1440
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 3: that's inexcusable because you know, they played on second night

1441
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 3: of back to back Cleveland versus Indiana, had some rest there.

1442
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: I think that's what was disappointing, you know, even given

1443
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 3: you know what Mitchell did so really rough defensively after

1444
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: some promising efforts on that end of the floor here

1445
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: over the last week or so.

1446
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: And if you watch the game, you would have noticed

1447
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: that TJ. McConnell did play for about five and a

1448
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: half minutes last night, but then he was taken out

1449
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: of the game by Rick Carlile. Never entered again, coming

1450
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: off that hamstring injury that cost him the first month

1451
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: of the season. But after the game, Rick Carlile James

1452
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: said No, that was my decision. I just thought he'd

1453
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: played back to back a couple of nights ago and

1454
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: he just didn't quite look himself, and I didn't want

1455
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: to risk it, so I just sat him down.

1456
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: Boy, I know a lot of betters probably were mad

1457
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: about that because the Unders got crushed.

1458
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 5: Oh boy, well he always got crushed.

1459
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: PACER's Playback presented by CNJ Water, the official water treatment

1460
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: partner of the Indiana Pacers cnjwater dot com. We can

1461
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: also tell you that Wednesday night the field house will

1462
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: be busy again, this time that Denver Nuggets visiting the

1463
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. So if you want to go see one

1464
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: of the best players in the league and call it Jokovic,

1465
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: that's the probably a good time to go, Jokic said.

1466
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: Jokovic did that. Jok thank you very much.

1467
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: He's your tennis guy, right.

1468
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I got confused there, James, thank you very much.

1469
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: As you know, I'm well aware of Yoki. So, uh,

1470
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: that's coming up on Wednesday night. Meanwhile, NCAA basketball tonight, Kevin,

1471
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna be busy, uh, perdue. Rutgers starts at eight

1472
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: and then Missouri Notre Dame at nine. O'clock this evening.

1473
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably honestly with Butler. Let's start there seven o'clock

1474
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 3: for Butler, a great start to the season. We'll see

1475
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 3: about Jalen Jackson. That ankle injury. I think that could

1476
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: be of concern for Butler. He's battled that for the

1477
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: last few months. I think he's an important piece to

1478
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 3: sustaining the really strong start they've had. So they're a

1479
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: big favorite seventeen a half point favorite over Eastern Michigan tonight.

1480
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: That is true TV. If you're not able to make

1481
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: it out to Hinkle. As Jeff said, Perdue it Rutgers.

1482
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 3: I know that strikes fear. Honestly, any Big Ten game

1483
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: in the month of December strikes fear and Purdue fans

1484
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: with how they've played in that month recently. But Rutgers

1485
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 3: is horrific. So I fully expect to win this game.

1486
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: This would be a Quad three loss if Perdue were

1487
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: to lose it. That's how bad Rutgers has been to

1488
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: start this season. By the way, did you see, James

1489
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 3: that Alec Pierce's little brother visited Perdue.

1490
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 5: I did see that.

1491
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: He is from what I understand, I believe he's sitting

1492
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: out this year to maintain his final year of eligibility.

1493
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: Yes, he's in the IVY League at Princeton, so you

1494
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: can't do the grad transfer there. Really good player at

1495
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 3: Princeton and so yeah, he is looking to play basketball

1496
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: at Perdue or elsewhere. And I would think would be

1497
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: a really coveted guy, like six to six kind of wing.

1498
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the IVY League Player of the Year,

1499
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 2: you know, all Ivy League First team, second team, all

1500
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: of that during his couples.

1501
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: To be for next year, just to clarify.

1502
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, but he's a good player. I think he

1503
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: would certainly help any team he joints.

1504
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: Also tonight, Butler at home at Hinkle they'll be taking

1505
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: on Eastern Michigan. That one starts at seven o'clock if

1506
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: you want to listen to it right here at ninety three,

1507
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: five one or seven to five the fan. Our airtime

1508
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: starts at six thirty this evening. And CEAA basketball rankings

1509
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: are out again due number one, Arizona two, Michigan three,

1510
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 1: and Indiana checks in at number twenty two. Is they

1511
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: are rising through the rankings right now. And we can

1512
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: also tell you that the college football playoff rankings will

1513
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: once again be announced later on tonight. This is the

1514
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: last one to four conference championships, so I don't know

1515
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna see you see the rankings tonight is a

1516
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: pretty good indication of what's gonna happen depending on some

1517
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: of these conference championships.

1518
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, we haven't really had a lot of top

1519
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 3: ten upsets over the last few weeks, so it would

1520
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 3: just have to be I guess re looking at resumes here,

1521
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: and obviously for a team like Notre Dame, there's a

1522
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 3: lot of attention on that and the coaching cycle I

1523
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: think is also impacting some things to some of these

1524
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 3: playoff teams. We talked a lot about the lang Kiff

1525
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: and drama. Sounds like the BYU coach is rumored to

1526
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 3: be the front runner at Penn State, so we'll see

1527
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: how that impacts BYU. They could be a big time,

1528
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: big steeler for Notre Dame and other teams coming up

1529
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 3: on Saturday. So something keeping on beys seven o'clock tonight,

1530
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 3: we'll get the latest college football rank.

1531
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: To refresh your memory. Ohio State was number one last week,

1532
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: Indiana two, Georgia three, Oregon four, and Texas Tech fifth.

1533
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: All Miss is sixth what happens now?

1534
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mean A and M. Right, weren't they three

1535
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 3: last week? And now that they will drop And that's

1536
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: been the one, you know, big upset that we have had,

1537
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 3: or a notable upset that we've had. So I assume

1538
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 3: A and M will drop out of the buys.

1539
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: There were seven at eleven and one last time. I

1540
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: sick the well.

1541
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 3: They lost this week and that was our first loss.

1542
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, love it in one. So all right, we'll

1543
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: find out what those official rankings are tonight a little

1544
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: bit later on, So that's coming her way next as

1545
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: we get ready to talk a little bit more about

1546
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: the Pacers and also some more college football. I don't

1547
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: know if you've heard, Mark, but there is a little

1548
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: football game over at Lucas Oil Stadium on Saturday night.

1549
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,879
Speaker 1: We'll tell you about that and hear from the quarterback

1550
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: next ninety three five and one oh seven five of

1551
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: the Fan. I haven't really checked the text line too

1552
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: much this morning. A lot going on, but people are

1553
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: starting to wake up and get in on that. We've

1554
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: got one here, that's Anonymous, says, tuning in late after

1555
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: digging myself out of yesterday's second round of snow only

1556
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: to be told to stay and work from home. So

1557
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've already talked about this morning people.

1558
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people stay at home to work today.

1559
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: And I know that the most of the schools around here,

1560
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: I know IPS is on two hour delay. Everybody else

1561
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: around I know that our area up north there's an

1562
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: hour and a half delay. So check your check your

1563
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: specific school would be my guess.

1564
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 5: Looks like the guy had a question.

1565
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting there. Shane Stikeen's aggressiveness on fourth down?

1566
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: Do you think it's being exacerbated or aided along by

1567
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: the kicking mos Fourth and short? Sure, fourth and long,

1568
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: like we saw Sunday, harder to defend. Thanks fellas, stay

1569
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: safe out there. What do you think?

1570
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to think, James, fourth and long? What

1571
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: am I missing here? The end of the game, right,

1572
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 3: was there another fourth and medium or longs that they

1573
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 3: went forth on?

1574
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 2: You feel like when teams do not I have success,

1575
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: the low hanging fruge is saying the place is horrible.

1576
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't know long at the end of the game

1577
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 3: they had to do. Yeah, but we did have this

1578
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: conversation a little bit yesterday. Aggressive fourth is short. I

1579
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 3: don't know. I think the fact that Michael Badgeley is

1580
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 3: not a long distance kicker, I think there are some

1581
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 3: times around that whatever thirty to forty yard line range.

1582
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: Aus see what he Sam miss interpreted his question where

1583
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: they are.

1584
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: Going forward maybe a little bit more, or they're not.

1585
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 3: You know, they don't believe they need to settle for

1586
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 3: field goals in that distance. But as far as Sunday's concerned,

1587
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: I didn't think there were that many fourth downs the

1588
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: Colts actually went for that were questionable. I think a

1589
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 3: lot of people brought up the Tyler Warren to B

1590
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: sneak Again. I have no issue with that. Some people

1591
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: are like, too cute, too cute. It's a tight end.

1592
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 3: QB sneak. A ton of teams around the league run it.

1593
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren did it a million times at Penn State.

1594
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 3: By having Daniel Jones initially in the shotgun, you're saying

1595
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 3: to the defense, we're not QB sneaking it here. So

1596
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: the defense is not going to pay those D tackles

1597
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 3: in D linemen in whereas if you line up right

1598
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 3: over center right away, you know they're gonna do that. Yeah,

1599
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 3: you know, by motioning Warren in there you are, you know,

1600
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 3: planting a little bit of doubt. At the end of

1601
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: the day, professional athletes should execute a snap and a

1602
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: QP snake.

1603
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw I'm interpreted the question. I thought it

1604
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: was more like, you know why I see being so aggressive?

1605
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: This is more so about is the kicker holding you back.

1606
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 2: I didn't think that there were too many instances, even

1607
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: in the Kansas City game, where I thought, Wow, they

1608
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: have to go for this because they don't trust Michael Badgett.

1609
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: I think that Shane has kind of kept the same

1610
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: level of aggressiveness even throughout the kicking change. In my opinion,

1611
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 2: and even the last few weeks, I can't say, oh,

1612
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: since they don't have sister Trader anymore, they're definitely gonna

1613
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: go for this. I think he's been aggressive like he

1614
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 2: always has been, and to the point that Shane always

1615
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: makes Yeah, when it works, you're a genius. When you

1616
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: when it doesn't work, you're not. But I think the

1617
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: execution is what really lacked on Sunday, not only from

1618
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: the fourth down standpoint, but just overall. I mean, you

1619
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: had to drop pass from Tyler, sorry not Tyler Warren

1620
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: drop pass with Josh downs on a critical third down

1621
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: there in the fourth quarter where you have a chance

1622
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 2: to obviously be closer and convert that if he picks

1623
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: that up. I thought that there were times where the

1624
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: tackles didn't really play well. I know Bernard Ryman had

1625
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: one day he kind of got bailed out for because

1626
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: Josh has been another great catch and that got called

1627
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: back and then Alec Pirez got it all back on

1628
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,520
Speaker 2: the next play because of the pass interference.

1629
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 5: So I don't know. I don't think that that's been

1630
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 5: a big issue.

1631
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: I think this is a Michael Badgeley isolated incident issue

1632
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 2: where he's not making normal kicks. It's not really affecting

1633
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: your fourth down percentage, of my opinion, or your aggressiveness.

1634
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: It's this dude ain't making the chip shots, which in

1635
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: this case is the PAHs.

1636
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, just to go over everything again from Sunday,

1637
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 3: they had two fourth downs in the whole game they

1638
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 3: went for. One was the final drive they obviously had

1639
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: to go for that. The other was the Tyler Warren

1640
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 3: QB sneak. So it's not like there were many fourth

1641
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: down calls that Shane Stiken had on Sunday and in

1642
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: regards to Badslee, I think there are some coaches that

1643
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: if you feel confident in your kicker when you get

1644
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 3: around that again thirty five ish yard line, your play

1645
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: calling might be a little bit more resigned to, Hey,

1646
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 3: we don't need to be as aggressive here because we

1647
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: feel like our guy can make it from fifty five right.

1648
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: Like basically the kicker on Sunday Cam Little for the Jags.

1649
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 3: I mean he's got a leg and so you know,

1650
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen might have a little bit more of confidence

1651
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: frankly in his kicker where Shane Siken when they get

1652
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: around that area of the field, it's like, hey, guys,

1653
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 3: if we don't get it, we're in the no man's land.

1654
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 3: We probably should go for it versus punt.

1655
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: There's some one from Drew who says, I feel Mooney

1656
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: and Kenny really haven't looked great. I don't understand why

1657
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: lou doesn't like Jalen Jones. What do you think is

1658
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: going on there?

1659
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 6: keV?

1660
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jalen Jones saying has been kind of a

1661
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: mystery to me for the last few months. I think

1662
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 3: he should get more snaps than Makaile Blackman. And to

1663
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 3: go back to the conversation we had in the seven

1664
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: o'clock hour. I'd like to see Kenny Moore kind of

1665
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: exclusively be that outside corner when they're in the base defense.

1666
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 3: It seemed like Kenny came off the field a good amount.

1667
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: I understand when you go to three corners you want

1668
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 3: Kenny in the slot, but I think when you have

1669
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 3: two on the field, Kenny Moore is such a solid

1670
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 3: football player, I want him to be one of those two.

1671
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's something that has been a little head

1672
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 3: scratching for me.

1673
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: What do you think it looks like rotationally and guys

1674
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: getting snaps now that we're not gonna have Sauce Gardner

1675
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: coming back.

1676
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: Well again, I mean, look like I just said, I

1677
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 3: think Kenny should play every snap and be the base

1678
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 3: corner outside corner when you're in kind of your four

1679
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 3: to three alignment, which you really aren't in a whole lot,

1680
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 3: and then when you go to nickel you have a

1681
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: third corner in the field. I'd like to see Jalen

1682
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 3: Jones get more snaps than Makai Blackman, but I'm not

1683
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 3: holding my breath for it.

1684
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: Tom says we should discuss how many games of the

1685
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: remaining five that the Colts might win. How many do

1686
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: they need to win to make the playoffs? Three? I

1687
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: feel three and two required three would get him to

1688
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: eleven and six. That's probably what it feels like this year.

1689
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: Eleven might be what you have to get.

1690
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: I'd be stunned if you miss the playoffs with eleven. Honestly, Tom,

1691
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 3: it probably matters which of the three you win. I mean,

1692
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 3: if you win the three divisional game, if you're in Yeah,

1693
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: if you win the three divisional games, you're probably a

1694
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: home game. Yeah, you've probably won the AFC South. If

1695
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 3: the three wins are San Francisco, Seattle and you split Jacksonville,

1696
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 3: then we're probably looking at Houston. Yeah, winning the division title.

1697
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 3: So I think it really matters, not so much two

1698
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 3: and three, three and two, I think it matters do

1699
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 3: you get the AFC South games? And again, just to

1700
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 3: go over the final five in order, it is at

1701
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: Jacksonville at Seattle Monday night football against the forty nine

1702
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 3: ers in your own building, Jacksonville in your own building,

1703
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,919
Speaker 3: and then you close out the season at Houston week eighteen.

1704
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 3: Based off record, it's the hardest remaining schedule in the NFL.

1705
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: Man, it feels like a road win in Jacksonville had

1706
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: gone awfully long way, doesn't it.

1707
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they haven't done that since I was

1708
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: in high school. I mean twenty fourteen died to have

1709
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 2: armpit hair the last time. Yeah, twenty fourteen, no facial hair.

1710
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: And I think I was rocking the mohawk back then.

1711
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 4: And yeah, I was not married and didn't have kids

1712
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 4: the last time they won.

1713
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 5: A lot has changed.

1714
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the players who played

1715
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: in that game, I think it might have been Jake

1716
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 2: Arthur shouted Jake Arthur from Locked On Colts. He told

1717
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 2: me were sitting there at the game Sunday, and I

1718
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: think he mentioned that Darius Butler had an interception in

1719
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: that game. And now the younger generation probably recognizes him

1720
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 2: as a guy who's on the Pat McAfee show. And

1721
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck was in his third season, he's now in

1722
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 2: his what second career as the football operator general manager

1723
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: guy over at Stanford is alma mater.

1724
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 4: Who's running down the sidelines for U pick six.

1725
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne played in that game and now he's in

1726
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 2: his fourth season as the wide receivers coach. I believe,

1727
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 2: so that actually be probably a funny story to do. Like, Okay,

1728
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: let's let's take a look at it. What the world

1729
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: looked like, Well, what iPhone was out? What was our

1730
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: latest iPhone? Back in twenty fourteen.

1731
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: A mad Bradshaw's scored a touchdown in the game. Your

1732
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: three leading tacklers I believe were the Quel Jackson, larn

1733
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 3: Landry and Greg Toler.

1734
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 5: It's one of the weirdest streaks in all of sports.

1735
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's seally because the Jaguars have stunk, right, This

1736
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 3: isn't like you're eleven year drought at Arrowhead, yeah, or

1737
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: Foxborough or you know whatever this has been and you've

1738
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 3: lost all sorts of games high scoring, low scoring. Andrew

1739
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 3: Luck got shut out. There six' nothing To Cody kessler

1740
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 3: in twenty. Eighteen so, basically if there's one common, thread

1741
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: and again the personnel's, changed the common threat Is jacksonville's

1742
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 3: d line has whipped you annually and. Turnovers you think

1743
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 3: That colt's roster gets to Get they're like the seventy

1744
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 3: Two dolphins and Crack champagne every year that the current

1745
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: calls don't win At.

1746
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 5: Jacksonville where the last ones to do.

1747
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 3: It Andrew lux organizing a zoom.

1748
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 5: Grab the bottle.

1749
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 4: Opener here are the Scores pagano.

1750
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: Cheersing since since that, win when they were forty four

1751
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: to seventeen winners Over jacksonville in twenty, fourteen they've lost

1752
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: fifty one to, sixteen thirty to twenty, seven thirty to,

1753
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: ten six to, nothing thirty eight to, twenty twenty seven to, twenty,

1754
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: twenty six to, eleven twenty four to, nothing and last

1755
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: year thirty i'm, sorry thirty seven to twenty and last

1756
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: year thirty seven to thirty. Four so you're, right all

1757
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: different kinds of.

1758
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 3: Games season Opener Philip rivers lost. There you're playing for

1759
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 3: a clinch of a playoff berth With Carson. Wentz you

1760
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 3: get run out of the. Building so all shapes and,

1761
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 3: sizes by the, Way Rick carlisle coming up in fifteen

1762
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 3: nine o'clock today for The, pacers.

1763
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 4: Been twenty years since they hosted The Super. Bowl this

1764
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 4: is their Super bowl On sunday In. Jacksonville they're not

1765
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 4: getting any Actual Super bowls. ANYMORE i don't Think Joel

1766
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 4: erickson will lot stand for. That this is their Super

1767
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 4: bowl On. Sunday Mike drocco says as. Much The Jaguars

1768
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 4: reporter he, said the the fan base gets a little

1769
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 4: extra zest and they do step when they builds come

1770
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 4: to town these.

1771
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 3: Days, stop are there Really jaguars?

1772
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 5: Fans there has to.

1773
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 3: Be there're all no one's in.

1774
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 4: There someone's in that THERE td.

1775
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 3: Pool, yeah they're all making out in that pool up.

1776
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 6: There.

1777
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah Jackson deville's dropping from the sky some for some.

1778
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 4: People we're gonna.

1779
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: Talk Big Ten championship next ninety, three five one, SEVEN

1780
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of a football game coming up On

1781
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: saturday Night Lucas Oil, stadium second Ranked indiana taking on

1782
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: top Branked Ohio state for The Big Ten. Championship last

1783
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: time you can make your case for the upcoming college

1784
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: football playoff with both teams certainly getting in regardless of

1785
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: what the outcome of this football game. Is but, uh

1786
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: we see a five and a half point favorite For Ohio.

1787
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: State we saw some analytics this week that saw that

1788
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: Maybe indiana has a slight chance to win this. Thing

1789
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: that'll be. Interesting of the, players obviously a couple Of

1790
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: Heisman trophy. Contenders, James we've been watching our Guy Fernando

1791
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: mendoza all year, long and then justin saying has been

1792
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: playing great quarterback nearly, identical even somewhat superior statistics At Ohio. State,

1793
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 1: Julian julian me and names, Today, james thank you for

1794
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: being here for. Me that's WHAT i was. Saying. Man

1795
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: BUT i think AND i knew that was. Coming took

1796
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: you a second to find.

1797
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: It it's all, Good it's not, good but, continue.

1798
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: Sir my point being is there are a lot of

1799
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: names to look, for but defensively For Ohio, state there's

1800
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: a kid Named Caleb downs who's got a little bit

1801
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 1: of the story people around here might be interested.

1802
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 13: In.

1803
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah So Caleb downs is the, younger bigger brother Of Josh,

1804
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: downs because he is a little bit taller and, stature

1805
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: and he's an outstanding, safety one of the best safety

1806
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: in college, football one of the best players in college.

1807
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 2: Football many believe this to be his last year with

1808
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: the Buck eyes in college. Football he started his correction

1809
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 2: At alabama and that's been the last two years with

1810
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: the buck.

1811
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 5: Guys and he's.

1812
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: Outstanding and so during an interview, Yesterday Fernando mendoza had

1813
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: a chance to talk about. Him he's asked about, him

1814
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: AND i, thought, honest listening To, Fernando man, AGAIN i

1815
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 2: go back to the tour guy, Comment, kevin he could

1816
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: be a great tour guy because he explains a lot

1817
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: of things in. Depth it's, interesting it's, complimentary but it's also.

1818
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: Real so here's what he had to, Say, mark if

1819
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: you've got a dialed up for us About Caleb downs,

1820
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: again the younger brother Of colts wide Receiver Josh, DOWNS i.

1821
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 5: Would say it's.

1822
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 9: Versatility Whenever i'm watching. Film the way that he's able

1823
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 9: to rotate down affect the run, game the way that

1824
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 9: he's able to match whether it's zone or man and

1825
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 9: lockdown that, receiver or the way that he's able to

1826
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 9: flip his hips and drive on a seam ball or

1827
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 9: just any ball in, general is truly. SPECIAL a player

1828
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 9: that is able to play effectively at all three levels

1829
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 9: is always something that you got to. Consider AND i

1830
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 9: think that the nation has taken notice and given him

1831
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 9: the hype that he, deserves as he is one of

1832
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 9: the best defensive players in the country for a, reason

1833
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 9: and it's going to be a great opportunity to go

1834
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 9: against a safety like. That especially as a, quarterback your

1835
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 9: eyes are always on the safeties and you're always trying

1836
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 9: to evaluate the, safeties and that's a big part of

1837
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 9: the structure of the. Defense and that's why you always

1838
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 9: Hear Tom brady talking About Ed reid so, much because

1839
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 9: that was a great safety that he played, against AND

1840
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 9: i feel like NOW i have a great opportunity to

1841
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 9: go against a great. Safety he was going to play

1842
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 9: in THE.

1843
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: Nfl and, then, yeah.

1844
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 3: We Saw downs last. Year of, course have a huge

1845
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 3: punt return to the house Against. Indiana it was a

1846
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 3: really kind of a game changing play there in the third.

1847
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 3: Quarter mark double check These heisman. ODDS i think we've

1848
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 3: kind of been saying, this you. Know, YES i Think

1849
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 3: Jeremiah love is a, great great. PLAYER i think he's

1850
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 3: best player in college. Football BUT i realized that when

1851
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 3: he got hurt On saturday night and then he came

1852
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 3: back in the, game didn't put a great game by any.

1853
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 3: Means His heisman odds are now. Done it doesn't seem

1854
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,839
Speaker 3: like this is just the winner of the game wins The. Heisman.

1855
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: Though it seems like That vanderbilt Kid Diego pavia is

1856
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: really up there in the.

1857
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 4: Odds, Yeah saying And mendoza are both tied at plus one,

1858
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 4: sixties so they the, favorites But via is not far

1859
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 4: behind plus one ninety.

1860
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 5: Five so he's right there and.

1861
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 3: He's got the flair he's you, KNOW i don't know

1862
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 3: if you saw The heisman celebration him and his offensive

1863
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 3: line over the, weekend and you, know SAYING i thought

1864
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 3: had a couple of you, know nice moments certainly Against Michigan,

1865
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 3: mendoza you, know obviously didn't have that in The bucket.

1866
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 3: Game CERTAINLY i think Of mendoza and or, saying have

1867
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 3: a big Game saturday. Night it'll be huge With pavia

1868
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 3: not playing this championship. Weekend BUT i am curious how

1869
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 3: we see this vote split. UP i, mean that's pretty

1870
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 3: wild to have you said all of them are under

1871
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 3: plus two. Hundred, YEP i mean that's pretty. RARE i,

1872
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: mean you, Know heisman votes do you know by this

1873
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 3: time next, week and to have all of them that

1874
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 3: close is something you don't typically. See but, again should

1875
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 3: be a hell of a hell of an atmosphere inside

1876
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 3: Of Lucasolo stadium and a day That indiana fans dream.

1877
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 3: Of you imagine having AN iu basketball game Against, louisville

1878
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,440
Speaker 3: UNDEFEATED iu basketball Against louisville and that's the undercard.

1879
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 7: For.

1880
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: You that's, Crazy, yeah that is. Crazy in your state.

1881
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 2: Capitol i'm so mad THAT I i'll be In. JACKSONVILLE

1882
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 2: i fought Signing. Joel i'll be In jacksonville Is, saturday

1883
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: SO i can't be around BECAUSE i do think it'll

1884
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: be a great, admoteer even for those who don't go

1885
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: to the game in, person and that's most, people because

1886
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: the tickers are going to be.

1887
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 5: Expensive but, yeah it's somebody buzzing down.

1888
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 6: Here.

1889
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: MAN a lot of excitement and a lot of, OPTIMISM i,

1890
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: think and deservedly.

1891
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: So all, right coming up in a, moment we'll talk

1892
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: basketball of THE nba. Variety the head coach of The

1893
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: Nada pacers stops. By that's For carlisle next ninety three,

1894
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: five one to seven, five.

1895
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 3: All, right nine o'clock on A, tuesday and on some

1896
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: people might be just getting out of the house right.

1897
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: Now commute in wasn't too too. Bad granted that was

1898
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 3: whatever three hours, ago but certainly safe. Travels it's out side,

1899
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 3: Streets Little, mah but main streets weren't too bad on

1900
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 3: the morning. Commute, UNFORTUNATELY i think the weather probably impacted

1901
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 3: a little bit of the atmosphere last night inside Of

1902
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 3: Gamebridge Field house to talk more about The pacers and

1903
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 3: The cavs last. Night he is the head coach of

1904
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 3: The Indiana pacers and he's with us right. Now Rick, carlisle,

1905
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 3: coach good morning to. You how are you?

1906
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 6: Good sounded like you guys were slow jamming the news

1907
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 6: there for that, music little slowjam.

1908
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 3: Action can you get behind?

1909
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 9: That?

1910
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 6: Sure why?

1911
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 3: Not look At that's all? Right Mark dyton jot that.

1912
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 3: Down we might need that for A Rick carlile reentry

1913
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 3: here coming up later in the. Season. Coach, defensively you

1914
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 3: guys have been very good over the last week and

1915
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 3: a half two weeks or, so but last night a

1916
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 3: lot of second chance points early in the. Game did

1917
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 3: you see that as the biggest difference For?

1918
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: Cleveland?

1919
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah we didn't do a good enough job hitting

1920
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 6: first on, blockouts AND i think they hit us for

1921
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 6: nine or eleven second chance points in the first, quarter

1922
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 6: and that Was that was a bad. Start.

1923
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Rick when you look at these games and you're able

1924
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,839
Speaker 2: to kind of climb back into, it what's the message

1925
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: when you see the version of yourselves that obviously can't

1926
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 2: play the brand of basketball you want to? Like is

1927
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 2: that something that you revisit after the, game, Like, hey

1928
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: this is that we have to play the entire four

1929
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 2: quarters or you know how in your face with, it are.

1930
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 6: You well are you you're talking about how we're presently.

1931
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 5: Constructed, yeah because it.

1932
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: Is you, KNOW i don't want to say it's an,

1933
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: excuse but at the same, time there's some legitimate reasons

1934
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 2: maybe why you aren't playing your your typical brand of.

1935
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 6: Basketball, yeah we've had to adjust a, lot AND i

1936
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 6: think that's. Obvious and so, look we've made progress in

1937
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 6: the last seven, games so before last, night in the

1938
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 6: previous six, games we're number one in the league in.

1939
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 6: Defense so that's that's, progress and that's something to be proud.

1940
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 6: Of but as we, know it's you, know it's it's

1941
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 6: not a. DESTINATION i, mean this this all requires continued,

1942
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 6: work continued. Focus and, so, yeah we had slippage last.

1943
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 6: Night pretty. Obviously cleveland came in here on a three

1944
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:17,480
Speaker 6: game losing. Streak give them. Credit they were very determined

1945
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 6: and you, Know mitchell got going and we didn't have

1946
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 6: very many.

1947
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: ANSWERS i know you mentioned your defense really planned at

1948
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: a high. Level of, course some slippage last, night as you,

1949
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 2: mentioned but on top of, that looking At Jay huff

1950
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 2: and what he's really done for your team over the

1951
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: last week or, so how have you seen him find

1952
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 2: a groove offensively and? Defensively last TIME i, CHECKED i

1953
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: believe he was leading the league in blocks per.

1954
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 6: Game, yeah he's he's made great progress and he's he's

1955
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,919
Speaker 6: a terrific. Kid you, know he came into a situation

1956
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 6: that was quite different Than. Memphis there's been certainly an

1957
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 6: adjustment period for. Him you, know a lot of things

1958
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 6: with our team has changed this. Year but as we've

1959
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 6: gone along and had you, know some moderate success over

1960
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 6: the last seven, games he's Been he's certainly been a

1961
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 6: big part of it with his ability to stretch the.

1962
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 6: Floor he's rebounded, well and you mentioned the block. SHOTS i,

1963
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 6: mean he's pretty elite in that.

1964
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 3: Area PACER's nuggets coming up tomorrow night inside A Gamebridge Field.

1965
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 3: House Rick carlile with us here on The Payless Slickers.

1966
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: Hotline you mentioned that number one, defense you know there

1967
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: for about a two week. Stretch you, know what have

1968
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: you liked from a chain standpoint on that end of the. Floor,

1969
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 3: again we've seen some lineup, tweaks but what hasn't been

1970
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: on the defensive end that's given you certainly much more

1971
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 3: optimism about where you guys are, playing.

1972
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 6: Probably just simply the fact that we've been. Physical we've

1973
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 6: done a reasonably good job of keeping people off the

1974
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 6: free throw, line and we've had. Success our rebounding has been,

1975
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 6: better you, know certainly with the exception of last night and,

1976
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 6: so and you know it's NBA's is a difficult. League you,

1977
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 6: know it's it's a difficult. League it's become more. Physical you.

1978
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 6: Know we were certainly a part of that with how

1979
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 6: played the last couple of, years and so you always

1980
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 6: have to keep, adjusting and then you have to adjust your.

1981
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 3: ADJUSTMENTS i going to go back to over the, weekend. Coach,

1982
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 3: obviously you guys win the back to back Against washington

1983
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 3: And chicago and you See Pascal siakam hit that game.

1984
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 3: Winner you guys been on the wrong side of several

1985
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 3: those shots here throughout the early part of the. Season

1986
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: if you could from your, perspective like what did you

1987
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 3: see From siakam on that? PLAY i was particularly struck

1988
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 3: by just his entire, demeanor, cool, calm, collected seemingly knowing

1989
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 3: where the clock, is you, know the, pump, fake all of.

1990
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 3: It could you kind of walk us through what you

1991
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 3: saw From pascal in that moment to win the.

1992
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 6: Game, yeah he you know all the things you just.

1993
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 6: Mentioned certainly he had a good feel for the. Clock

1994
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 6: we tried to face the floor to give him an

1995
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 6: angle in an area to go to to get to a.

1996
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 6: Spot it was not an easy, shot AND i was

1997
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 6: right behind him in line with the, basket and in real,

1998
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 6: time just standing, there it looked like he just he

1999
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 6: went to a spot and rose, up but there was

2000
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 6: actually a hesitation and it reminded me a little bit

2001
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 6: Of Dirk. Dewitzky you, KNOW i saw many game winners

2002
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 6: during my thirteen years with. HIM i think eleven out

2003
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 6: of thirteen were with. Him And pascal has the ability

2004
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 6: to at the last, second you, know very calmly and very,

2005
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 6: coolly change the angle of the shot to back up

2006
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 6: a little bit and the ball goes a little bit.

2007
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 6: Higher you, can you can go up to try to

2008
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 6: block it all you, want but when he when he

2009
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 6: makes that geometrical change and gets, it know. It there's

2010
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 6: just no way to get to. It and it was.

2011
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 6: Perfection it's difficult as it. WAS i, mean the only,

2012
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 6: thing the only thing better would have been if you,

2013
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 6: know the red light had gone on while the ball

2014
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 6: was in the. Air but you, know point one on

2015
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 6: the clock is uh is pretty damn Good and it

2016
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 6: was an amazing shot and certainly much.

2017
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 2: Needed, YEAH i was saying watching that, game we got

2018
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 2: to get the home clock operator and give him the

2019
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 2: walk off win there with the point once he left

2020
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: on the.

2021
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 5: Clock But, rick you touched a little bit.

2022
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 2: There but how much value do you think it, is

2023
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 2: especially in a league like this where there's so many

2024
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: guys that can you, know do multiple things now as

2025
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 2: far as you, know, shoot drive past, Whatever but you

2026
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 2: still have that one guy at least on your. Roster

2027
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 2: AND i THINK benedicgg has some of this as, well

2028
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 2: that when you're kind of in a, bind he can

2029
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 2: still get a pretty good. Look you've been around the

2030
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 2: game for a long. Time how rare a talent is?

2031
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 6: That, well this is you, know this is the definition

2032
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 6: of a of a max. Player you, know a guy

2033
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 6: that can that can create consistently create an advantage for his.

2034
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 6: Team so, YEAH i, mean really the technical definition that

2035
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 6: is probably can consistently create an advantage for. Himself but

2036
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 6: In pascal's, mind it's it's all about the team and

2037
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 6: what he can do for the, team and so, yeah

2038
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 6: it's it's made, him you, know a very special player for.

2039
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 6: Us he's a very special. Person and you know how

2040
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 6: he's led through this difficult stretch has, been uh has

2041
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 6: been quite has been quite exceptional because he's remained very.

2042
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 6: Upbeat he's had great. Wisdom he he you, know he

2043
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 6: picks the exact right spots to to interject on what's

2044
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 6: going on and to help and, uh you, know his,

2045
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 6: consistency he's been.

2046
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 3: Impeccable Then Rick carlisle with us here on The Payless

2047
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 3: Slickers hotline as The pacers will get back to work

2048
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 3: coming up tomorrow, night it will be The patriers And

2049
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 3: nuggets inside of Gamebridge Field. House, Coach you've talked a

2050
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 3: little bit these last two days on the show about

2051
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 3: how this Weekend saturday specifically is kind of a dream

2052
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 3: scenario FOR i you. Fans their basketball team will play

2053
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 3: inside of your building coming Up saturday afternoon Against louisville

2054
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 3: and they'll play in The Big ten title one versus

2055
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 3: Two saturday. Night it kind of got me, THINKING i

2056
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 3: don't know if you've ever asked you, this did you

2057
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 3: have a do you have a favorite? Team you, know

2058
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 3: any sport when you were growing, up or a favorite.

2059
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 3: PLAYER i get you weren't filing up the league pass,

2060
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 3: necessarily but did you have a favorite, team favorite player growing?

2061
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 6: Up? Uh you talking about football or basketball, EITHER i guess.

2062
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 3: Any just like, Childhood Rick, carlile did he have a

2063
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 3: favorite sport or favorite?

2064
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 13: Team, YEAH i, mean you, KNOW i followed THE, nba you,

2065
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 13: know largely through magazines growing, up because you, know we

2066
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 13: didn't have CABLE.

2067
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 6: TV i THINK i probably told you this, story but you,

2068
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 6: know early, on you, know WHEN i was ten or

2069
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 6: eleven years. Old you, know that was When Louel sander

2070
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 6: was drafted by The bucks and he And oscar were

2071
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 6: playing together there AND i became a big fan Of Al,

2072
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 6: sander who Became kareem and then and THEN i kind

2073
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 6: of hooked on with The lakers in seventy two when

2074
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 6: they had their run and at one point won thirty

2075
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 6: three games in a, row AND i remember listening to

2076
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 6: game ON am, radio you, know during the playoffs that.

2077
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 6: Year you, know back in those days where we lived

2078
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 6: up Near, canada you could pick UP am radio, signals you,

2079
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 6: know late at, night and, uh it was it was pretty.

2080
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 6: Amazing it was it would come through very. Clear you.

2081
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 6: Know that was that was the year they had you,

2082
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 6: Know Wes, goodrich, McMillan, Happy hairston And chamberlain as their,

2083
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 6: starters and you know they were they were, great and,

2084
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 6: uh you, know and then after, That i'm just trying to,

2085
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 6: think you, KNOW i was somewhat of A nick, fan you,

2086
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 6: know in the in the early seventies as. Well you,

2087
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 6: know my dad grew up In, Elmsford New, york which

2088
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 6: is In Westchester. County we went to a couple Of

2089
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 6: knicks games early on at The. Garden those were very very.

2090
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,799
Speaker 6: Memorable you, KNOW i was in my you, know, eleven,

2091
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 6: twelve thirteen year old you know range of. Age and

2092
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 6: then you, KNOW i mean all that kind of came

2093
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 6: full circle WHEN i got signed by The knicks and

2094
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 6: this On december first of eighty, seven and that night

2095
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 6: had my best game as a, pro you, know In

2096
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 6: Massive Square, garden AND i just so much of that

2097
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 6: stuff was was so. Cool and, then, uh you, know

2098
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 6: when the when THE ABA nba merger, happened you, know

2099
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 6: doctor j was was the guy that was you, KNOW

2100
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 6: i was completely enamored, with you, know the style of,

2101
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 6: play the grace The, dunks you, know all that, stuff and,

2102
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 6: uh you, know of, course emulating a guy who you

2103
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 6: could you could never in a zillion years hope to

2104
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 6: play like was kind of idiotic in a lot of.

2105
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 6: Ways but it, was, uh you, know it was it was,

2106
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 6: inspirational you, know watching him and so uh and then you,

2107
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 6: know the irony of ironies was you, KNOW i was

2108
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 6: pretty much A celtic hater in those, days you, know

2109
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 6: because of my love Of DOCTOR j and the sixth

2110
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 6: and THEN i get drafted By, buston you, know and then,

2111
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 6: uh you, know ONCE i got there and made the,

2112
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 6: team of course all that. Changed and you, know very, interestingly,

2113
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 6: uh the opportunity to play With larry for three years In,

2114
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 6: Boston Larry, bird that, is and you, know became became

2115
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 6: friends with, him and it it was one of the

2116
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 6: reasons that you, know we ended up coaching together and

2117
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 6: then working, together you, know a little further on down the,

2118
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 6: line but you, know that's kind of the history of

2119
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 6: my of my favorite, teams et. Cetera you, know as

2120
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 6: far as far as football. Goes right, now it's The, colts,

2121
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 6: baby you, Know i'm Just i'm dialed, in and you,

2122
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 6: know it's damn officials the other. Day, wait you know

2123
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 6: what a what a what a screwing that.

2124
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 5: WAS i don't think they can find you.

2125
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 3: ACROSS i love to follow, up But i'm worried about your.

2126
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 3: POCKET i don't know if they. Can And Roger goodell

2127
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 3: can step in, there, coach.

2128
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 6: He ain't gonna get.

2129
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 5: ME i love That.

2130
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 6: Adam adam could get me by, that But goodell. Can't he,

2131
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 6: can't he can't get he can't touch.

2132
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 5: ME i love.

2133
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 2: It so last ONE i have for, You, Rick and

2134
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 2: actually this sparked is from a DEBATE i have my

2135
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 2: family During. Thanksgiving we always do, Like, okay whose era is?

2136
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: Better you know you're era With lebron and you Know

2137
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 2: sga now And yoki versus my dad's From he loves

2138
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 2: The Michael jordan And Larry bird and all those guys

2139
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: And doctor J like you said, so looking at we

2140
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 2: were looking at The Michael jordan. Game we scored sixty.

2141
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: THREE i believe you were On boston when this. Happened

2142
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 2: and looking at the spacing from that, Game rick is

2143
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 2: jarring to me because it's so. Different i'm not taking

2144
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 2: anything away from the skill level that you know each era,

2145
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 2: has but as a coaching as a player throughout the,

2146
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 2: years what has it been like to evolve with the

2147
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 2: spacing of the. Game and he talked about physicality a

2148
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 2: little bit earlier in this, interview but the spacing so,

2149
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 2: different and how is that maybe you affected how you

2150
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 2: coach in the rotations you have and things of that.

2151
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 6: Nature, YEAH i mean the other it was maybe a

2152
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 6: week and a half. AGO i WAS i was going

2153
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 6: through the. Channels AN NBA tv was on and they

2154
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 6: had game five of the playoff series Between philadelphia And

2155
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 6: New jersey and it was it. Was it was a

2156
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 6: series that went to a deciding fifth game in the first.

2157
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 6: Round every game in the first four games was won

2158
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 6: by the road. Team so you, know, Uh New jersey

2159
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 6: won the first two games In. Philly philly won the

2160
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 6: next two games In New. Jersey and this Is New

2161
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 6: jersey with you, Know Michael, Ray, Richardson Buck, Williams Albert, King,

2162
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 6: otis Bird, Song Darwin, cook you, know a lot of

2163
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 6: a lot of good, players And philly was you, know

2164
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 6: it was it Was Doctor jay and it really. Was

2165
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 6: there pretty much championship team. Intact you, know a COUPLE

2166
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 6: i think a year or two after the, championship and

2167
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 6: so watching that, GAME i had the SAME i, HAD

2168
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 6: i had the exact same. THOUGHT i, mean everything was

2169
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 6: so bunched IN i don't THINK i saw one three

2170
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 6: point shot. Taken in, Fact philadelphia was, down was down,

2171
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 6: late and they had a couple of possessions. Left they

2172
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 6: didn't even think about shooter, three you. Know so it

2173
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 6: was so so much has. Changed and, look there was

2174
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 6: a there was a scoring crisis in the nineties and

2175
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 6: headed into the early two, thousands and Then Jerry colangelo

2176
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 6: had a group that was put together By David. Stern

2177
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 6: david gave them autonomy to make some rule changes to

2178
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 6: make the game, better you, know to to help evolve

2179
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 6: the game. Forward so the big change was you could

2180
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 6: play any defense as long as you did not get

2181
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 6: a defense of three second. Violation and so all of a,

2182
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 6: sudden instead of grid lines that determined whether or, not you,

2183
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 6: know you were legal or, not you could now. Guard

2184
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 6: you can now double team a guy that didn't have the,

2185
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 6: ball and that that didn't used to be the. Case

2186
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 6: so the ball had to had to, move and as

2187
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 6: the ball had to move more with you, know the

2188
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 6: legality of zone, defense et. Cetera players had to develop

2189
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 6: a different skill. Set the game started to breathe. More

2190
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 6: the three point shots started to be realized as as

2191
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 6: the potent weapon that it that it's viewed as, today

2192
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 6: and that was kind of the beginning of the change

2193
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 6: of the. Game and then you, know nowadays you have,

2194
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 6: analytics you've got a three point, line a lot of

2195
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 6: these guys are shooting from what would be a four point.

2196
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 6: Line and you, know IT'S i love the way the

2197
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:13,560
Speaker 6: game has. Changed it's it's it's really the ultimate challenge to.

2198
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 6: Play it's the ultimate challenge to defend in. It and you,

2199
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 6: know it's, just, uh it's just super compelling because as

2200
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 6: we've seen over the last two years, especially you, know

2201
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 6: no lead is too large and no deficit is too,

2202
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 6: big you, know and the three point shot and the

2203
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 6: speed of the game is has has put a great

2204
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 6: deal of excitement into. It so, Yeah i'm with you on.

2205
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 6: That and watch that game five, Man i've never seen

2206
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 6: so many people bunched up together in the. Lane the

2207
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 6: only the only game that that THAT i would compare

2208
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 6: it to That i've seen THAT i went back years

2209
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 6: later and happened to see ON tv when we were

2210
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 6: Playing washington back in THE uh it was around two

2211
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 6: thousand and eight or something WHEN i first got To,

2212
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 6: dallas they had Our Virginia georgetown, games so that Was

2213
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 6: ewing Versus, samson and that game had no three point,

2214
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 6: line no shot, clock and and we were sitting in

2215
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 6: a zone and it was it was packed in and

2216
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 6: possessions were super, long and you, know it was it

2217
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 6: was like it was like watching paint. DRY i, mean

2218
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,879
Speaker 6: it was really it was really it was really. Arduous

2219
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 6: and SO i Just i'm thrilled with the way the

2220
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 6: games evolved over the. Years it had, to you, know

2221
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 6: in some, way shape or. Form there was there was

2222
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 6: always talk, about, hey the floor needs to be. Bigger you,

2223
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 6: know maybe the rim needs to get, higher all that

2224
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 6: kind of. Stuff you, know none of that stuff was

2225
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 6: going to happen BECAUSE NBA nba arenas are configured to

2226
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 6: be a certain. Size there are certain you, know the

2227
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 6: high revenue seats were not going to go, away and

2228
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 6: so the game had to adjust and it. Has and

2229
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 6: and as we move, forward you know you're going to

2230
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 6: see more five men that can stretch the, floor put

2231
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 6: the ball on the, floor and do all the skilled

2232
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 6: things as, well and it'll get harder and harder to.

2233
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 3: Guard always think of. Scoring you guys put up what

2234
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 3: eighty something On cleveland in the first half of a

2235
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,759
Speaker 3: playoff game last, year and you, know twenty years, Ago Pacers,

2236
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 3: pistons it was the first one to like seventy five

2237
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 3: would win that series in The East.

2238
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 6: Final, yeah But i'll tell you, one like my first

2239
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 6: year In, detroit you, know we we developed a team

2240
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 6: that was a tough minded defensive. Team that was our.

2241
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 6: Identity we gave up eighty six points a game for the,

2242
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:44,599
Speaker 6: season and you know that was that was kind of

2243
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 6: the beginning of this era that my first year of

2244
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 6: coaching was that. Year and it was also the first

2245
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 6: year of The colangelo rule, changes and so you, know

2246
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 6: we we were all. Adjusting but you, know we we

2247
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 6: had we had. DEFENDERS i, mean we Had Ben, wallace

2248
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 6: who really nobody really knew Who Ben wallace was at

2249
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 6: that point in, time but he Became Defensive player of

2250
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 6: The year his second year with us and went on

2251
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 6: to win it like three additional. Times and you, know

2252
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 6: under these under these new, rules you could still have

2253
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 6: a great defensive. Team and so everyone wants to have

2254
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 6: an identity and so right. Now you know with, us

2255
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 6: our identity is we we we have we have found

2256
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 6: a formula to defend. Well but it is it's great

2257
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 6: dependent on the right kind of offense and the right

2258
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 6: kind of. Execution at both.

2259
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 3: Fens PACER's have, one two of three. Again they Got

2260
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 3: denver coming up tomorrow night reminder AND i think it's

2261
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 3: a good reminder on a day like. Today you got

2262
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 3: The Lloyd Pier Samuel cote drive coming up uh three

2263
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 3: today over at The Goodwill Horizon house right off Of Washington.

2264
01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 3: Streets if you can make it out to, that certainly

2265
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 3: do coach as, Always thank, You Sarah well chat next.

2266
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 1: Week.

2267
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 6: Cheers Stick care Of carlisle.

2268
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 3: Right there on the Pay Less liquors. Hotline Mark dyton

2269
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 3: will have that up on the, podcast and he definitely

2270
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 3: wanted to make Sure Roger goodell that you can't get

2271
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:18,720
Speaker 3: his back.

2272
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:22,599
Speaker 5: Pocket, now he ain't gonna get. ME i love That.

2273
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 6: Adam adam could get me, that But goodell. Can't he,

2274
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 6: can't he can't get he can't touch.

2275
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 3: Me the thoughts on The colts game On sunday and

2276
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 3: the officiated.

2277
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 5: We'll screwing that was you got to get saying that

2278
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 5: to return the.

2279
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 3: Favor, now do not Think Shane stiken would react in

2280
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 3: that manner in front of a.

2281
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 5: Microphone be, glorious, though wouldn't?

2282
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 3: It, yeah it would.

2283
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 4: Be he should Hand carlile notes of what he wants

2284
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 4: to say to officials And carlisle can say, it and

2285
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 4: Then goodell can't Find, carlisle and then Anything carlile wants to,

2286
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 4: Say Adam silver there he gives The Shane stike and

2287
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 4: they passed notes like it's home.

2288
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 3: RUN i think, Teamwork, Mark.

2289
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 1: YEAH i think you're onto, Something mark.

2290
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah can't give cross league. PENALTIES i think they should do.

2291
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: THAT i have. It do you like?

2292
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 5: Me yes or? No do the? Circle you gotta do

2293
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 5: the five.

2294
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 3: Thing just pray that it doesn't fall on the ground

2295
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 3: and the, teacher.

2296
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 6: Do you like?

2297
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 2: Me yes or?

2298
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 1: No what a?

2299
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 5: Time maybe bubble gum bubble?

2300
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 3: Gums maybe.

2301
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Check it down Culture. Jackuars hopefully a better prepared officiating

2302
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 1: cruise shows up for that. Game colts try to win

2303
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 1: In jacksonville for the first time since twenty. Fourteen kick

2304
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: off at one o'clock airtime begins at ten. Am right

2305
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 1: here at ninety three five and one oh seven to,

2306
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: five the Fan Sauce. Gardner the ally doesn't have an achilles,

2307
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 1: blowout that's great. News it is a problem in the

2308
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 1: upper part of his. Calf but when does that mean

2309
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,919
Speaker 1: he can? Return James boyd not, sure.

2310
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 5: But he will miss some.

2311
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 2: TIME i would imagine he will return sometime within the next.

2312
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,759
Speaker 2: Month the so sense injurr reserve is not an option

2313
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,759
Speaker 2: in that would automatic knock you off for four. Games

2314
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 2: so no ir is a good sign for Soft.

2315
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: Cardner colts currently technically trail The Jacksonville jaguars for first

2316
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 1: place in THE Afc. South, obviously a Winning Jacksonville kevin

2317
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: would change all that, around and it would send The

2318
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: colts kind of back on an upward trajectory within the division.

2319
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:21,679
Speaker 1: Too they need this, one.

2320
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 3: Yes big of a game Of sunday was this one

2321
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 3: probably rises in some value, Here so, yeah it is absolutely.

2322
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 3: VITAL i think if you want a legit shot at

2323
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 3: one in THE Afc.

2324
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: South all, Right The Indiana pacers just hurt from M

2325
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 1: carlisle a moment. Ago they dropped one To cleveland last,

2326
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:40,920
Speaker 1: night one thirty five to. One. Nineteen Donovan mitchell led

2327
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 1: the way for The cavs with forty three. Points they

2328
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 1: will take on The Denver nuggets at The fieldhouse tomorrow.

2329
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 1: Night they'll be looking for their third winning four games

2330
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: if they can get that. ONE ncaa basketball coming up

2331
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 1: later on, Tonight purdue on the road to take On.

2332
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,560
Speaker 1: Rutgers rutgers is five and, three but that's kind of

2333
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: a deceiving five and. Three they're really not that, great are, They, Kevin, no.

2334
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 3: They are very. Bad SO i Know purdue fans they

2335
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,560
Speaker 3: think back To December Big ten, Games rutgers being one of,

2336
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 3: Them Northwestern Penn. State last. Year purdue was lost on

2337
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 3: the road in The Big ten here in the month Of.

2338
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 3: December but This rutgers team is not good at all

2339
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 3: produce like a sixteen seventeen point. Favorite Here indiana would

2340
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 3: to open Up Big ten play tomorrow that is up

2341
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 3: at The. Barn Another Big ten team that is not very,

2342
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 3: good The Minnesota Golden. Gophers SO i think a nice

2343
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 3: way to kind of ease you, know it's the, road

2344
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 3: but still a nice way to ease into the conference

2345
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 3: play for both of those. Teams and right, Now, Butler,

2346
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:35,600
Speaker 3: Indiana purdue all really strong starts to the. Year what

2347
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 3: we've yet to see a loss from Any, WELL i

2348
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 3: Guess butler did LOSE smu on that late shot, there

2349
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 3: but that's it right. Now so really strong starts and

2350
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:44,879
Speaker 3: a really good night for college, basketball some good games

2351
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 3: around the entire nation.

2352
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: Tonight you Mentioned butler that modest team will be At

2353
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 1: Tinkle Field house tonight taking On Eastern. Michigan they are

2354
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: six to one on the, year SEVEN pm, tip six

2355
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: thirty airtime here at ninety three five, one seven to

2356
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: five of the. Fan one game In Monday NIGHT footba

2357
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: last night for THE Nfl New england over The New

2358
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 1: York giants thirty three to Fifteen giants didn't look good at,

2359
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:08,719
Speaker 1: all but man Oh Man Drake may continues to. Impress

2360
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 1: does Any James.

2361
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah might be THE mvp front runner at the, moment

2362
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 2: AND i believe. What this is his third, year which

2363
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 2: is pretty remarkable that he's in THE vp conversation met

2364
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 2: early in his.

2365
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 1: Career he is getting it. Done also, Again i'm a uniform.

2366
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 1: Lover Those patriots red uniforms with pat The patriot on the,

2367
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 1: helmet those are. AWESOME i love.

2368
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 3: Those nothing better Than Young hoku's attempt at a field

2369
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 3: goal last night hit.

2370
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,719
Speaker 1: The ground a good foot behind the ball on attempt last.

2371
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 3: NIGHT i was right up there with The colts special

2372
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 3: team second.

2373
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 5: Year, yeah she give me a decade Of.

2374
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 1: Carolina good, lord that's When North carolina used to be

2375
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: competitive in THE. Acc sorry about? THAT i take? Another

2376
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 1: DO i take Another pelotics? Shot right?

2377
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 5: THERE i won't stop.

2378
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 1: IT i apologize for. That we get college football official

2379
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: rankings released again later on. Tonight you're, Right, Kevin TEXAS

2380
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 1: a AND m had been at number, three but then

2381
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 1: losing a. Game it'll be interesting to see what that

2382
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 1: top five looks like when they reveal. THAT i would

2383
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: Imagine Ohio state In Indiana state right where they're at

2384
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 1: at one and.

2385
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 3: Two, Yeah and obviously the big drama tonight will revolve

2386
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 3: are they reassessing those resumes on the backside of? It you,

2387
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 3: know Notre. Dame it's the. Resume obviously has been one

2388
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 3: that's been talking about a whole. Lot Is texas Or?

2389
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 3: VANDERBILT i, mean they had some notable. Wins does that

2390
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 3: do anything to kind of push themselves ahead of? It

2391
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 3: we've kind of seen status quo really with a lot

2392
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:36,880
Speaker 3: of the bracket here over the last few. Weeks so

2393
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 3: it's the final one before championship weekend coming Up friday And, saturday.

2394
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 1: And just when you think things have gotten even, crazier

2395
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 1: you could possibly imagine in college football around the. Game

2396
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 1: we saw what happened last night in Both oxford And Baton.

2397
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 1: Rouge As Lane kiffen Leaves Ole miss to go TO.

2398
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 1: Lsu he did not get a rousing send off at

2399
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,440
Speaker 1: The Oxford. Airport Diddy, James.

2400
01:51:59,360 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 5: No he did.

2401
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 2: NOT i would imagine there were a lot of fingers

2402
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 2: that we probably shouldn't.

2403
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 1: Raise craziness continuing in the coaching. Carousel we'll talk a

2404
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 1: little bit more about that in a. Moment gets you

2405
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 1: ready to go for The Big ten championship game On

2406
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: saturday night as. Well it's ninety three five and one on.

2407
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: Seven good. MORNING i hope your your day is going

2408
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,759
Speaker 1: to get warmer and easier and. BETTER i know everybody

2409
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: with kids had a little bit of adjustments to going

2410
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 1: on this, morning with delayed starts and. Whatnot did you

2411
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 1: ever find out If brownsburg had a delayed start mark

2412
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 1: or you've just.

2413
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 5: Been much of the disappointment Of Ashley the.

2414
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 1: GOODNESS i know the ips.

2415
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 4: Those kids jumping out to school was that broad wave,

2416
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 4: There it was so that there.

2417
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 1: Was another huge pile up ON i sixty five just

2418
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: south of town In Johnson. County you, know we probably got.

2419
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 4: Too another three and a half four inches out In

2420
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 4: bronsburg overnight.

2421
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 1: Snow so get him up and get him to, School,

2422
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: mark let's.

2423
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 5: Go, Well i'm not, Me i'm already, here all. Right

2424
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 5: the Problem in.

2425
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 1: The, meantime we got The bigs in championship game coming

2426
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 1: up on The saturday, Night. KEVIN i was just messing

2427
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 1: around during the break to see where the ticket situation

2428
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 1: is right. Now and you can get tickets right. Now

2429
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 1: you can go get, them but you better be prepared

2430
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: to spend if you want to go low like in

2431
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 1: section one, Thirteen row two, three four hundred and twenty

2432
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: three dollars per ticket right, Now so for you, know

2433
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 1: you And maddie could go for sixty eight.

2434
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 3: Hundred bucks by oh, sure, yeah not bad at.

2435
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 1: All.

2436
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah IF i give a quick shout out To jeff

2437
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 4: for giving us Early christmas, presents, yes, yeah, yes, sure

2438
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 4: he's SWEET a big.

2439
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 5: TEN i can't.

2440
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 1: Wait go wait at your office and don't move until those. Arrive, okay,

2441
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:34,440
Speaker 1: well don't go. Anywhere did? Breath so, ANYWAY i. ACCIDENTALLY

2442
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 1: i was looking at some tickets that were like six

2443
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 1: hundred just TO i was dialing around to see what's

2444
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 1: there and accidentally hit the next. Button he, said.

2445
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 4: PURCHASE i was, like we're going for, Real, well this

2446
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 4: scene's gonna be like what did you?

2447
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 1: Do BUT i hit the next button, accidentally which starts

2448
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 1: the process of you is going to my and they

2449
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: were gone. Already so if you're going to go spend

2450
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 1: a ton of money on this or up and go

2451
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 1: get it.

2452
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 3: Done what do you guys think percentage will be in?

2453
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 3: There indianna Versus Ohio state.

2454
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 2: Fans, well that's a good question Because Ohio state, travels

2455
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 2: they travel very, well and they're.

2456
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:09,720
Speaker 1: Drivable like you, SAID i bet sixty five to thirty Five.

2457
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 1: Indiana does you think for as close as it, is

2458
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 1: as long as they've been waiting for something like, THIS.

2459
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 4: I Think Ohio state is kind of like they're putting

2460
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 4: their money towards the playoff game more than the they've

2461
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 4: been to the big time. CHAMPIONSHIP i feel like basically

2462
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 4: every year for quite a few.

2463
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 3: YEARS i Think i'm more With. MARK i think it'll

2464
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 3: be north of. THAT i Get Ohio state. TRAVELS i

2465
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 3: mean they do in their alumni basis, Massive but this

2466
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 3: is the biggest day IN iu athletics in, decades maybe.

2467
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 3: Ever you have literally in the state, capitol you have

2468
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 3: the basketball team at two, o'clock the perfect little three

2469
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 3: hour gap in between, games and your team trying to

2470
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 3: win a football championship for the first time in their program.

2471
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 3: History so what you're saying like eighty, TWENTY i mean seventy.

2472
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 3: THIRTY i don't want to Underestimate Ohio state, fans but,

2473
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 3: YES i think it'll be north sixty five to thirty.

2474
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 5: Five, OKAY i think.

2475
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 3: It'll feel like a home game For indiana and there

2476
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 3: the game just.

2477
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 2: MEET i Think i'm rolling With jeff on this. ONE

2478
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 2: i really do Think Ohio state because there's so many of.

2479
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 5: Them they're. EVERYWHERE i get there's so MANY iu.

2480
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 3: Fans that's, true that's.

2481
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 2: True BUT i feel like you can't necessarily, say, oh

2482
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna say their money to go to the playoff

2483
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 2: game or.

2484
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 4: Whatever not every fan's gonna do. That, No BUT i

2485
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 4: Think buckeyes fans, like we've been, there done.

2486
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 3: That, Yeah Ohio. State, Man it's it's a weird feel

2487
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 3: to like one versus. TWO i. Saw it's the third

2488
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 3: ever time we've gotten it in The Big. TEN i

2489
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 3: remember the last Time Michigan Ohio state in six was

2490
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 3: one of the, games, frankly one of the college football

2491
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 3: GAMES i probably remember the. Most is the first time

2492
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 3: we've had. It but it doesn't feel like maybe it's

2493
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 3: at that, magnitude you, know because we're in this awkward

2494
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 3: state with championship games right now of like what is

2495
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 3: the meaning the winner hoisted? Trophy but from a playoff seeding,

2496
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 3: standpoint you're, left you, know uncertain exactly of what great

2497
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 3: benefits you get From Ohio state didn't even make the

2498
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 3: game last year and what did they? Do mm? Hm

2499
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 3: they won?

2500
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: It? All?

2501
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 3: YEAH i Mean oregon And Penn state played in the

2502
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 3: game last. Year what happened to?

2503
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 1: Them things have changed so much. Too you talk about

2504
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and, SIX i mean the winner of that

2505
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 1: game that was that meant something that.

2506
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 3: Exactly and that that's kind of What i'm getting, at you,

2507
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 3: know the true meaning of the. Game, again For indiana, football,

2508
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 3: obviously A Big ten championship is just absurd to even.

2509
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 3: Ponder but For Ohio, STATE i don't, know it just

2510
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 3: seems like it's a shrug of the. Shoulders a little bit. More, yeah,

2511
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 3: yeah a little bit.

2512
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 1: More, Okay shane h might have the right to attack

2513
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 1: to he, says those four hundred dollars tickets to get

2514
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: in the door, seats they'll be closer to two hundred

2515
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Dollars saturday. Morning you, think right, THEN i.

2516
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 3: Mean unless a snowstorms come. IN i don't why would

2517
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 3: they go? Down didn't we feel that way about like

2518
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 3: Notreed aiu last year and they only went?

2519
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 5: Up, yeah that was crazy the.

2520
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 3: Closer and closer we got to and that weather was.

2521
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 3: Awful you, know this is a controlled. CLIMATE i am

2522
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 3: very curious How indiana Will AND i Think Kurtzy gnetti

2523
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 3: has touched on. This he felt like At Ohio, state

2524
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 3: especially last. Year you, know if you go back and

2525
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 3: you think on that, Game indiana really played pretty good

2526
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 3: football through the first twenty twenty five minutes of that,

2527
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 3: game and then they dropped that snap on the punt

2528
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 3: and it started to unravel from. There and that was

2529
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 3: of course a road environment. There LIKE i IF i

2530
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 3: were a betting, MAN i would Take indiana with these?

2531
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 3: Points is it still five and a half?

2532
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 6: MARK i?

2533
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 5: Believe?

2534
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 6: See?

2535
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah to, ME i look At Ohio state Circling saturday

2536
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 3: With michigan a lot more than THE a circle on this,

2537
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 3: one Whereas, indiana you, know they really haven't played anybody

2538
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 3: in a month or, so so this has kind of

2539
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 3: been ever since Beating, oregon it's kind of been. This,

2540
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 3: hey as long as you show up and don't GET,

2541
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 3: covid and you're gonna make The Big ten title game

2542
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 3: down to four and a, half starting to get some

2543
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 3: money in on The, hoosiers that's what you're telling.

2544
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 5: Me, YEP i.

2545
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 1: Wonder IF i get close to like fourth three and

2546
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 1: a half by the time kickoff.

2547
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,879
Speaker 3: Comes you imagine these downtown.

2548
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 2: Businesses, yeah this is all hands on, deck right, This,

2549
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 2: yeah this is all hands on.

2550
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 3: Deck and what that scene is gonna?

2551
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 1: Be?

2552
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 2: Like, YEAH i almost feel like you you should just

2553
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 2: expect long lines and a lot of people, everywhere high

2554
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 2: prices for a lot of, stuff, parking.

2555
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 5: Whatever but, hey you only live. Once, yeah pretty.

2556
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 3: Fair stay out of four sixty five On, saturday for.

2557
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 5: Real it's gonna be.

2558
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 3: Crazy you might have Your monday In, april but this

2559
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 3: is gonna Be you're gonna hear this Is indiana blasted?

2560
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 2: Everywhere who? Who who who's. YOURS i might with the

2561
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 2: candy stripes On. Saturday we'll see In. Jacksonville why? Not

2562
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 2: have you seen everything else In? Jacksonville pretty wicky down,

2563
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 2: there that's. True they won't judge. Me you might be

2564
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 2: the best. Dressed actually.

2565
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: You. Might you might become the mayor Of jacksonville by

2566
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 1: the time this weekend's.

2567
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 5: Over, OH i don't know about.

2568
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 2: That, well first Thing i'll do as a mayor is

2569
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 2: make sure their press box doesn't leak true.

2570
01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 5: Story like every every year we, go they towels.

2571
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 2: That line the windows of the press.

2572
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 3: Box is the pool above? IT i don't.

2573
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,880
Speaker 2: Know it's it's very nique. Place to give you just

2574
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 2: some context of how weird that place. Is we have

2575
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 2: to scan our faces when we go into these games

2576
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 2: FOR nfl And, kevin you know how it.

2577
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 5: Goes they have a little stand. There but In, jacksonville

2578
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 5: you go.

2579
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 2: In this elevator to go up to the press, box

2580
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 2: so you scan your face to get on the elevator makes,

2581
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 2: Sense and there's literally no other floors between the floor

2582
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 2: you get in on and the floor takes.

2583
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 5: You to the press. Box that's.

2584
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 2: It so you go up one floor and then there's another,

2585
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 2: thing right when you get off to scan your face.

2586
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 2: Again AND i remember walking past it once on accident

2587
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 2: and the lady like stopped, me AND i was, like,

2588
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 2: wait we should like give a skan your, face but

2589
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:47,240
Speaker 2: like there's nowhere you can go in the elevator. Ride i'm,

2590
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 2: like DID i tell it port here or? What so

2591
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 2: the everything they do there makes no.

2592
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 3: Sense, well that's why The colts haven't won there and

2593
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 3: over a. Decade it's, true.

2594
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 1: All, right coming up at a, moment we'll finish up the.

2595
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 1: Show tell you what we're going to be watching, tonight

2596
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot of great color basketball on, tap and we'll

2597
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 1: take some of your final thoughts and comments on the

2598
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 1: text line as. Well two, nine ten. Seventy we'll do

2599
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 1: it next ninety. Three latest power rankings are out in

2600
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:12,920
Speaker 1: THE nfl ON espn dot com for whatever that's. Worth

2601
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis colts have fallen to number ten right, now

2602
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: and it says The colts are five and oh When

2603
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 1: taylor rushes for one hundred yards or. More that's a

2604
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:23,760
Speaker 1: bit of an oversimplification because he tends to close out

2605
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 1: wins by running the ball and chewing up. Clock but

2606
02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 1: there is a relationship between The colts having an efficient

2607
02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 1: offensive performance And taylor being. Productive in recent, weeks neither

2608
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 1: has been, true And india has lost three of, four

2609
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 1: With taylor averaging sixty two point seven yards in those.

2610
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 1: Losses how do you parse all of that? Out is

2611
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,160
Speaker 1: it one leads to the other or is it chicken

2612
02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 1: and egg kind of? There what's going?

2613
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 6: On?

2614
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,480
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean SOMETIMES i think pure rushing, yards as

2615
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 3: it's point out there can kind of be backdoored when

2616
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 3: you have a lead and you put a game on.

2617
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 3: Ice but you, KNOW i think it's also fair to

2618
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 3: say just the overall effectiveness of the run game first

2619
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 3: half or second half right now has not been at

2620
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 3: the level that you. Want it's putting more pressure on

2621
02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 3: the passing, offense and right now you're passing OFFENSE i

2622
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 3: think has some. Limitations With Daniel, jones is just inability

2623
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:13,040
Speaker 3: to move outside of the. Pocket you didn't see a

2624
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 3: whole lot of bootleg stuff from The, colts and The

2625
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 3: colts need more for some of their pass. Catchers Josh

2626
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 3: Towns Michael Pittman. Jr, SPECIFICALLY i Thought Tyler warren just

2627
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 3: looked a little he looked sick to. Me, FRANKLY i

2628
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 3: guess On, sunday not.

2629
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 1: With, himself which he.

2630
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:27,000
Speaker 13: Was.

2631
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah interesting Though James cults are still the highest ranked

2632
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 1: team in THE Afc south according TO espn dot. Com

2633
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 1: is that well having fun.

2634
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 5: At them LOVE.

2635
02:01:37,160 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 2: Espn don't care about their rankings because the real rankings

2636
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 2: have them as a second team in THE Afc south

2637
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 2: right now because of the tiebreaker with The, JAGUARS o

2638
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 2: a huge game coming up when it comes to both

2639
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 2: teams being eight and. Four you lose this, game your

2640
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:55,600
Speaker 2: grip on THE Afc south is very hard to get,

2641
02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 2: BACK i think at that point because of the tie

2642
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 2: breakers and losses you might have against other teams in your.

2643
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 2: Division so you definitely want to in that streak In

2644
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 2: Duval county having won there in, forever but more importantly

2645
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 2: for this singular, season get back on track and you,

2646
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:13,040
Speaker 2: know put yourself a position to not only win a,

2647
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 2: division but make the, playoffs because, boy it gets bleak

2648
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:17,120
Speaker 2: if you keep dropping these division.

2649
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 1: Games, clearly we know The texans have an unbelievably good.

2650
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 1: Defense that's that's carrying them and their. Offenses, look it's doing,

2651
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 1: enough Right what Is jacksonville about right? Now What's Liam

2652
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 1: cohen got? Going on with this, TEAM i got to

2653
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 1: dive into. IT i usually get into that third of

2654
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 1: stuff tomorrow And. Wednesdays BUT i do know that.

2655
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 2: They're a tougher team mentally nicer than to Be KEVIN i,

2656
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 2: Thought and this isn't even Like Trevor lawrence is back

2657
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:46,480
Speaker 2: in his ball and he's playing great.

2658
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 5: Football he's been.

2659
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 2: Okay but they're just a gritty team and they find

2660
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,160
Speaker 2: a variety of ways to, win WHICH i think speaks

2661
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 2: to what he's trying to build.

2662
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 3: There, yeah their offensive numbers aren't very. Impressive, defensively their

2663
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 3: run defens has been very, good so to talk About,

2664
02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 3: sunday you know that matters. Now Trayvon, Walker Eric, armstead

2665
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 3: two of their better defensive linemen didn't play in their

2666
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 3: win Over, tennessee so that will be something to keep

2667
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:11,560
Speaker 3: an eye. On And Liam comb is pretty honest that

2668
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 3: offensive line right, now they're banged up and they need

2669
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 3: to play better up. Front so you know that obviously

2670
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 3: would be an area that you would hope The colts

2671
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 3: would take advantage of. IT i didn't think The colts

2672
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 3: took advantage enough Of houston's offensive. Line, again that edge

2673
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 3: pass rush continues to be a concern for, Me but,

2674
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean just to put numbers behind What sunday

2675
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 3: means playoff odd, Wise, james you guys had via The

2676
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 3: New York, times if The colts win On, sunday your

2677
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:42,800
Speaker 3: playoff odds are at eighty five. Percent if you lose

2678
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 3: fifty one, Percent and for THE Afc, south a win

2679
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:49,840
Speaker 3: would still be right out about a coin flip fifty

2680
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 3: four percent a loss and it drops to fourteen, Percent

2681
02:03:54,920 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 3: so you're talking thirty forty percent difference win or loss

2682
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:04,360
Speaker 3: On sunday for the playoffs or the. Division so once,

2683
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 3: again as we've reiterated really for the last two weeks,

2684
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 3: now this is the definition of a Massive december football.

2685
02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 2: Game, yeah and it gives some perspective there of how

2686
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:14,880
Speaker 2: they kind of come to these. CONCLUSIONS a lot of

2687
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 2: it has to do with the fact that The colts

2688
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 2: end of season, schedule at least opponents they, face are

2689
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 2: more formidable than the other teams in the. Division because

2690
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 2: you look at The jaguars schedule down the stretch to The,

2691
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 2: texans they're not facing the litany of playoff.

2692
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 5: TEAMS i would think that The colts.

2693
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 1: Are it's definitely a game that needs to be won

2694
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 1: because just in terms of the, division you come out

2695
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 1: of that three and one already against the, division or

2696
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:45,320
Speaker 1: two and two and your next two divisional games against

2697
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:47,960
Speaker 1: teams you've already lost. To it's, tough is what.

2698
02:04:48,160 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 2: Is As Josh down, said this is what you play.

2699
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:52,520
Speaker 2: For you want to be in these moments at the

2700
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 2: end of the. Year so credit to him for having

2701
02:04:55,080 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 2: that mindset and we'll see if that carries them through Come.

2702
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,000
Speaker 1: Sunday all, right that's going to wrap it up for

2703
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:01,760
Speaker 1: us thanks To ricarli stopping by today along With JOEL. A.

2704
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 1: Ericsson Jay query comes away from noon to three today

2705
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 1: With koreer And company and then the ride WITH jmv

2706
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 1: begins at three. O'clock butler basketball tonight at six thirty