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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan Morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 2: The fan.

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Speaker 3: Cults were on seven and one, and now they will

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Speaker 3: play out the string on Sunday against the Houston Texans

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Speaker 3: and just trying to break a six game losing streak.

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Speaker 1: On the way out of Dodge.

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Speaker 3: And there are so many questions, and we seem to

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Speaker 3: say this every year, but Kevin Bowen, is this one

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Speaker 3: of the biggest off seasons in the ministry of the

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis cultsu Are we just saying that every year?

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Speaker 4: Now, that's actually a good question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel like we say it annually. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I can call it that when you don't

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Speaker 2: have a first round pick, like when you had the

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Speaker 2: fourth overall pick. I mean, that was a monumental decision

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Speaker 2: to potentially shaping or reshaping your franchise. Obviously it didn't

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Speaker 2: work out, So yeah, I mean it could very well

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Speaker 2: be obviously if you change leadership. But you know, from

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Speaker 2: a roster building standpoint, the fact that you won't draft

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Speaker 2: until whatever forty nine overall is a little different.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's ask our next guest, Steven Holder, how the

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Speaker 3: cultson has done so for quite some time. He works

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Speaker 3: at ESPN dot com and he joins us on the

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Speaker 3: Payless Lickers hotline right now. Good morning, Steven, ask you

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Speaker 3: the same question we were just talking about. Are the

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Speaker 3: Cults about to face their biggest off season in a

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Speaker 3: long long time or do we just say that every year?

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Speaker 5: Now it does feel like we say that a lot.

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Speaker 5: I will admit that is true. Every season is or

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Speaker 5: every off season feels like a pivotal off season, a

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Speaker 5: big off season. I don't know that this is necessarily

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Speaker 5: the case this year unless there are changes. I think

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Speaker 5: that is maybe what is influencing that phrasing. That's probably

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Speaker 5: what's happening there because people are interested in whatever decision

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Speaker 5: hand in hand with that is that there is new leadership.

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Speaker 5: So we're not entirely sure how the decision gets made

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Speaker 5: because different people are making the decision. So I think

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Speaker 5: in that respect, it's a different off season. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it's their biggest off season or pivotal off season,

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Speaker 6: So Steven, I know you have been in the battle

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Speaker 6: online about how this could be a little more nuanced

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Speaker 6: and fire everybody, bring everybody back. But in the case

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Speaker 6: of Chris Ballard, the debate that we've had here on

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Speaker 6: the show is how much do you weigh this one

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Speaker 6: season twenty twenty five versus the nine seasons overall that

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Speaker 6: have kind of led up to this point. So if

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Speaker 6: you had to put it on a scale or give

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Speaker 6: it a percentage, is it eighty twenty, is it seventy

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a hard question. I think I would say this,

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Speaker 5: and this is not entirely your question. But if you're

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Speaker 5: the Coals, I realize that jim Irsay is no longer

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Speaker 5: things last year. But I'm just but just you know,

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Speaker 5: were satisfied or at least willing to move forward with

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Speaker 5: Chris Pollard last year, I don't know what changed this

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Speaker 7: I hate this guy, because in fact, as much as

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Speaker 7: people don't want to acknowledge this, this was one of

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Speaker 5: I will listen. People can boycott men, they can hop

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Speaker 5: horns at me, they can do whatever the hell they want.

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Speaker 5: It's true. He actually did everything that the fans had

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Speaker 5: been asking.

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Speaker 1: Him to do all along.

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Speaker 5: He was more aggressive in free agency on defense, for sure.

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Speaker 5: They got the quarterback largely right until he wasn't available anymore.

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Speaker 5: And the sauce gardener trade, even though a lot of

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Speaker 5: people have turned it on, turned it around and made

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Speaker 5: it as a as a negative against Chris Ballard, that's

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Speaker 5: the kind of move people said he never made.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not saying that's that's the reason to keep him.

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Speaker 5: All I'm saying is if you, if you was an

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Speaker 2: So what changed?

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Speaker 5: Right? I think that's why I think if you're going

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Speaker 5: don't think it has It can't be about.

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Speaker 2: This year for me. I mean, if you're firing.

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Speaker 5: Somebody based on this year, then you're your a ridiculous

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel. Steven Holder with us here on

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Speaker 2: the Payloss Liquors hot Line. Good luck to your Hurricanes tonight, Steven,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I actually do. Actually, Mimi almost.

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Speaker 5: A new year, It's almost a new year.

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Speaker 2: Hate Ohio State. I mean, I hate Ohio State so

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Speaker 2: much and actually think Miami can look to the club.

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Speaker 3: So you got a notre dame guy rooting for your

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's Ohio State. Does anybody root for Ohio

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Speaker 2: State casually?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: Listen, listen, Ohio State brings people together for the wrong reason.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm yeah, where are you going with that?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 2: Said here to close out twenty twenty five Stevenholder with

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Speaker 2: us ESPN. Stephen, did I hear you correct earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week? You are? And again, let's just I guess

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Speaker 2: assume everybody's brought back. You're a little skeptical about Alec

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Speaker 5: Well, just because there's not been momentum on that. And

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Speaker 5: I mean it's no secret that this you know, they

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Speaker 5: have this this reality that they are facing coming down

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Speaker 5: the pike, and they there's been there's been Let's just

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Speaker 5: put it this way. There have been many conversations between

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Speaker 5: Alex Pearce's representation and the Colts, and there's not been

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Speaker 5: And the reason I say that is because the Colts

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Speaker 5: we don't know if we are in position to do

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Speaker 5: that at wide Receiver this coming year. Now, let me

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Speaker 5: be clear. This is kind of the Chris Ballard approach.

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Speaker 5: He never gives you a good offer early. Okay, so

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Speaker 5: let's just be clear about that. I'm not surprised by that,

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Speaker 5: and it wouldn't stun me if again we're talking hypothetically,

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Speaker 2: Has done that before. Right, But can't they just franchise

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Speaker 2: tag him?

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Speaker 9: You could?

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Speaker 5: That is true. I don't know what that number is,

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Speaker 4: It's about twenty six million older.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say upper twenties.

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Speaker 2: For sure, that's a big number. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: I think Pierce's crazy as sounds to some people. I

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Speaker 1: I think he turns into a clear cut number one

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Speaker 5: I have no doubt. I actually think he is their

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Speaker 2: Just watch him.

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Speaker 5: And here's the thing, there's the rumor mill is already

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Speaker 5: turning out there. The teams are very interested. I'm just

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Speaker 5: telling you, they're very interested.

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Speaker 2: And I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: KB that number, whatever he gets in free agency, if

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Speaker 5: he's a completely free agent, I think it's going to

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Speaker 5: stun some people. I really do, because I think there's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a competition for him and that will drive

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Speaker 5: the number up. So anyway, I'll shut up now, But

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Speaker 5: I do think, I do think that the Colts are

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Speaker 3: Stephenholder ESPN dot Com covers the Colts joining us on

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Speaker 3: the Payless Liquors hotline this morning. On Sunday, the Colts

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Speaker 3: take on the Texans. Riley Leonard will be the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: What's the realistic ceiling for what his day looks like?

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Speaker 5: Boy? I like Riley Leonard even though he even though

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Speaker 1: No I listen.

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Speaker 5: A tough, tough assignment. I mean, you could not you

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Speaker 5: could not put a rookie quarterback in a tougher spot.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you know, uh, look, it's going to

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Speaker 5: be good for him, don't get me wrong, but it's

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Speaker 5: kind of like you know, taking your medicine when you're

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Speaker 5: a kid, right, who wants to take that gross cough medicine?

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Speaker 5: You know, but the alternative is, you know, keep coughing

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Speaker 5: all night, So you got to do it. But man,

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Speaker 5: you wish it was a better way.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's like where the Jets or the the you know,

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Speaker 5: gonna be tough. I don't know what to expect other

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Speaker 5: than a really ugly performance. I don't think this is

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Speaker 5: I think the ceiling or the I think success. Let's

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Speaker 5: put it this way, success would be to have some

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Speaker 5: the big colossal mistakes. That's really it. If he does that,

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Speaker 5: then I think he was successful.

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Speaker 6: Well there you have it from Stephen Holder, the ringing

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Speaker 6: endorsement of Roy Leonard.

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Speaker 1: You considered what to say before you said that.

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Speaker 6: Damn, I was trying to I was trying to find

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Speaker 6: a way or you know him, Yeah, him, It's not.

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Speaker 5: About him, it's it's it's what he's facing.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, you scored sixteen points with Daniel Jones

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Speaker 5: Know, right, go ass Herbert, right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like they made him look mortal at times. I mean,

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Speaker 5: although he had great moments in that game. But all

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Speaker 5: I'm saying is like that, we're saying a super Bowl

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Speaker 5: people are are fully recognizing that. I see a super

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Speaker 5: Bowl caliber defense. I don't know if offensively they have enough,

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Speaker 5: probably not, but certainly the AFC is wide open. So

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Speaker 5: with that defense, it's a game changer, right, It is

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Speaker 5: a game changer. If there was ever a team that

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Speaker 5: could go further than you expect because of one side

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Speaker 5: think their offense can get them there, but that defense could.

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 5: And I know that sounds crazy. I don't believe it,

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Speaker 5: but I'm not ruling it out. So that's what he's facing.

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Speaker 6: I just expect Ry Leonard to have this audio holder

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Speaker 6: playing in his ears before he takes the field this

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Speaker 6: up coming Sunday, along with a little DMX, you know,

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Speaker 6: And so we'll see if we gets bullets and board

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm instigating.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to do my part. I'm happy to do

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh no, you know I'll play both sides, baby.

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Speaker 5: But I like what they're doing. They look really good,

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Speaker 3: Always good to talk to Steven, enjoy your New Year's Eve,

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Speaker 3: whatever that entails, and have fun watching football to Moto

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 5: I'll see you guys in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: It's good see you next year. How many times we

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Speaker 2: You all cornballs say that is the oldest you've ever

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Speaker 1: Oh that's saying something right there.

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Speaker 2: Hick and his Hurricanes tonight Miami and Ohio State. I

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Speaker 4: I'll take the other The hell with that.

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Speaker 1: Just for conversation's sake, I'll take the other side.

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Speaker 3: We were all in on him going all in on

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And to be fair, I do get what he's saying,

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Speaker 4: He did all the things that we asked him to do.

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Speaker 6: But when your team loses sixth straight, possibly seventh straight,

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Speaker 2: I think that that's that's hard well, and I think

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Speaker 10: What goal?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: What goal?

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Speaker 2: Of all the preseason goals? What goal did you cross

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Speaker 2: didn't win a playoff game, didn't win, didn't win in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 4: So how much?

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Speaker 2: How much is where I I? It's more of a again,

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Speaker 3: That's what we do with That's what we do in sports.

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Speaker 3: Literally four of his five best players were hurt almost.

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Speaker 4: Boom boom boom boom boom okay, the.

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Speaker 1: I do not.

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Speaker 6: I can see the sun come up. It's great.

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Speaker 1: And where's the sun? And I'm looking for it.

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Speaker 6: But secondly, and more importantly, I go back to the

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Speaker 2: Ye, San Francisco is the reference, so you brought up yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Seems like John Lynch is always making the right.

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: What happens if Jonathan Taylor's normal running back health? What

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Speaker 3: but right now, Kayleb, let's check it down. New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 3: That means tomorrow is New Year's Day. It's the game,

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Speaker 3: end the day we've been waiting for. If you're a

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Speaker 6: James doesn't seem real, but it is indeed going to happen,

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Speaker 3: So you talk about Kevin that that's spread. It's a

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Speaker 3: part of the early national championship run with Nick Saban

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Speaker 3: when he spent four seasons there.

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Speaker 2: Had a laugh at this sick answer yesterday, asked by

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Speaker 2: Chris Hagen about the Alabama brand if you will, and

444
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Speaker 2: in true Kurt Signetti fashion, he shared this, you probably.

445
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Speaker 1: Know more about them stick than they do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, guys just know what they see on tape. Short,

447
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 2: sweet to the point from Kurt Signetti. Yeah, the brand

448
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Speaker 2: of Alabama a little different than this product here and

449
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: I full expect Indiana win by two scores.

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Speaker 3: Do you believe that Kurt Signetti was able to get

451
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Speaker 3: his team hungry and humble again after the win of

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Speaker 3: the Big Ten Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. It's Signetti on the

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Speaker 2: day podium inside of Lukasol Stadium. That was one of

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Speaker 2: the first things he mentioned.

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Speaker 4: He's a he's.

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Speaker 2: A different cat, dude, He's a I mean, we debate

458
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Speaker 2: this in the NFL more than college, the ceo versus

459
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Speaker 2: the offensive play caller. If you will tell you what

460
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Speaker 2: Churtzy Natti defines football CEO.

461
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Speaker 3: Man, it's gonna be a fun day tomorrow again, first

462
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Speaker 3: game of the day will start at noon, and we've

463
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Speaker 3: got actually, uh later on tonight.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: We've got some playoff brackets coming your way this evening

466
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Speaker 3: at least one football game. And of all these, aside

467
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Speaker 3: from Indiana, of these four.

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Speaker 1: Quarterfinal games, which one are you looking forward to the most?

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Speaker 6: Ships Probably one tonight looking forward to Ohio State Miami

470
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Speaker 6: just because of the history there between those programs. I

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Speaker 6: believe Jeremiah Smith is Miami native, so there's been a

472
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Speaker 6: lot to talk about had Miami been better when he

473
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Speaker 6: was coming up to the high school ranks, would he

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Speaker 6: have gone there? I think he actually said he would have.

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Speaker 6: So just curious to see how that on folds. And

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Speaker 6: also they're trying to rebound from their first loss of

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Speaker 6: the season, which was to IU in that Big Ten championship.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And of course tonight seven point thirty Miami Ohio State

480
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Speaker 3: that will be the Cotton Bowl tomorrow at noon. Oregon

481
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech that'll be the Orange Bowl, followed by the

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Speaker 3: Rose Bowl with Alabama, Indiana and the night cap, which

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Speaker 3: will also hear at ninety three five, one oh seven

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Speaker 3: five of the fan h Georgia and Old Miss.

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Speaker 1: It's down to the big boys and the big programs.

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Speaker 2: I do have to laugh at that Old Miss game.

487
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Speaker 2: So you're telling me you've got six coaches on the

488
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Speaker 2: Old Miss sideline that are coaching LSU and the transfer

489
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Speaker 2: portals opening up on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that yesterday, folks, But oh boy, can

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Speaker 2: you imagine what those conversations have been like.

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, I don't we gotta get to break,

494
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Speaker 6: but like, can someone explain why that is even allowed?

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Speaker 6: When there was such a big uproar about the coach staying,

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is just okay with that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's it's a weird situation.

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Speaker 2: I think if you're the Old Miss ad, it's a

499
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Speaker 2: really difficult situation. You have your best football team in years.

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Speaker 2: You obviously want them to try and something here in

501
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: the playoff. Yeah, you want some sort of continuity. But

502
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Speaker 2: then the weird elephant in the room is ls use

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Speaker 2: nil looks a little different than your nil. And how

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Speaker 2: many of these dudes are gonna be wearing an LSU

505
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Speaker 2: jersey next year.

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Speaker 1: I know by the way you play for as early.

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Speaker 6: As front till I'm saying I like you guys threw

508
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Speaker 6: a fit for lang Kiff and trying to coach his team.

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Speaker 4: I'll just send my minions to do it and recruit

510
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Speaker 4: for me, all right.

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Speaker 1: Very weird college basketball. Last night Creighton a winner over

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Speaker 1: Butler eighty nine eighty five.

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Speaker 3: Bulldogs dropped a ten and four they play against Saturday

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Speaker 3: against Villanova. Was a nice game for Michaelajai. He had

515
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Speaker 3: sixteen points and thirteen rebounds. Johann Treire had twenty points

516
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Speaker 3: to lead the way. NBA tonight, Pacers have really this

517
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Speaker 3: afternoon at home against the Orlando Magic. Our coverage starts

518
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Speaker 3: at three pm here at ninety three five and one

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Speaker 3: of something five the fan. Kevin trying to snap a

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Speaker 3: nine game losing streak this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: It's two checkdowns. Now you've bypassed Notre Dame basketball. That

522
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Speaker 2: will not sit well with me. God do that?

523
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Speaker 1: Did I do that again?

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Speaker 2: James?

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Speaker 4: No, you need to buy a past.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Some of that basketball, you know set the country back.

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Speaker 2: Three and a half point underdog. The Pacers so again,

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Speaker 2: there have been many of these games this season where

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Speaker 2: like the opponent is also missing some notable players, Franz

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Speaker 2: Wagner being the guy for the magic. In this one,

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Speaker 2: we'll see about Jalen Suggs. I think he's been banged

533
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Speaker 2: up as well. Shout out to Desmond Bane. We'll see

534
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Speaker 2: how many people make the truck over. I seventy to

535
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Speaker 2: come and watch Desmond Bay. Now he's in the Eastern Conference,

536
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Speaker 2: so he makes I think a couple appearances inside a

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Speaker 2: game with field. Yeah, seating Catholic out there, so get

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Speaker 2: health wives. Ben Shephard potentially could be back. I think

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00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: McConnell's questionable. You're getting a little bit healthier, but damn

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00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: you need to win. Boy. I hate to use the

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Speaker 2: word slumpbuster on New Year's Eve because that could lead

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Speaker 2: to quite a few issues.

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Speaker 1: Have any suggestions.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers certainly need one, and we'll see if they

545
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Speaker 2: can find it. The Mattine game here at three o'clock

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Speaker 2: this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: James got any slump busting suggestions?

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Speaker 4: Play some defense. I feel like they have not done

549
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Speaker 4: that for a month.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you say wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: At Texans on Sunday.

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00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: The Colts have lost six straight games, Riley Literary.

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Speaker 1: That's another version of defense at quarterback. Coming up in

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Speaker 1: a moment. We'll talk more about Ellen.

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Speaker 2: River's joking there somewhere, and I'm just gonna let it sad.

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Speaker 3: Rose Bowl Tomorrow. We'll get to the text line for

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Speaker 3: the first time today. Two three nine ten seventy. You

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Speaker 3: can also call us up. We've got something to say.

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Speaker 3: Two three nine ten seventy, same number. It's all next

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Speaker 3: to ninety three five and seven to five. Fan you asked, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: you get And there's James dancing now we're all good Calem,

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Speaker 3: good job out of you making everybody happy over here?

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Speaker 10: Can we wait for the beat to drop of this long?

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Speaker 10: Could I just you guys talk over this as it

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Speaker 10: comes on here?

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Speaker 1: This is a New Year's Eve song cat all right?

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Speaker 6: Go oh man, kay, you got even thinking about some

568
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Speaker 6: memories right there, all right, from college.

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Speaker 2: To the rock lobster siren neon lights flashing.

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Speaker 10: Yeah man, you said you said you went back to

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Speaker 10: uh Indiana on New Year's Eve when they played Ohio

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Speaker 10: State and basketball, right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah up.

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Speaker 2: So that was a top five upset for Tom Crane.

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Speaker 2: William Buford is who I'm imagining for Ohio.

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Speaker 1: State at high school.

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Speaker 10: Played William Bufford to get some great player smooth.

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Speaker 2: I loved watching William Beauford play. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Sollinger was still there, but that was a big

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Speaker 2: h that was a big win.

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Speaker 9: Boy.

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Speaker 2: I'm tasting. I'm tasting the grape Karkoff right now, kayl,

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Speaker 2: thank you brother for that.

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Speaker 3: Owen Household is going to be partying tonight right up

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Speaker 3: until midnight.

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Speaker 1: Probably passed it.

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Speaker 4: Nelly's first rave coming at midnight.

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00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: Right, You're gonna get to the glow the glow sticks

589
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: and everything like that.

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00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: Anything to make or fall asleep.

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Speaker 1: It's the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 3: It's New Year's Eve, twenty twenty five, ninety three, five

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Speaker 3: one or some five, the fan last day of the year,

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Speaker 3: and we've been counting down the top ten Indiana sports

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Speaker 3: stories of the year.

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Speaker 1: We are down to the top three, Kevin Bowen, correct.

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00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, down to the top three.

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Speaker 1: All right, a little production with that, then, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to do there, Caleb? All right, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you start, James Boyd. We'll go from your school.

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Speaker 4: Number over three for you.

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Speaker 6: Boy, I'm gonna go with what we just saw the

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Speaker 6: last time. IU took the field they beat Ohio State

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Speaker 6: in the Big Ten Championship. That cannot be understated in

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Speaker 6: our moments of the year. And honestly, we might be

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Speaker 6: looking at a bigger moment for the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 6: list if they knock off Alabama in advance further in

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Speaker 6: the Kaghtawall playoffs.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, just that moment.

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Speaker 6: I remember watching that game down in Jacksonville on a

611
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Speaker 6: big screen and we were actually sitting next to me

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Speaker 6: and Nathan Brown of Indy Star great colet s reporter

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Speaker 6: who's now on the beat. We were sitting next to

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Speaker 6: a table of Ohio State fans and they were actually

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Speaker 6: pretty respectful, like, man, we did not expect Au to

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Speaker 6: kind of give us some go like this, and that

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Speaker 6: to me was a big moment for that program.

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Speaker 4: I know, it really didn't mean anything like materially.

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Speaker 6: You look into the Coasgotball playoff, but to have that victory, boy,

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Speaker 6: that was not something I had on the Bingo card

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Speaker 6: coming into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I had to talk about things not having put down

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Speaker 3: on your Bingo card. My number three moment Fernando Mendoza

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Speaker 3: getting the Heisman Trophy to stand there in New York

625
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Speaker 3: and for in Indiana quarterback to pick up the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 3: That was my number three moment in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: And it was all about moments. It wasn't about overwhelming

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Speaker 3: statistics with the most touchdown throws ever, the most yards ever,

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Speaker 3: or the highest rating ever, although the rating was pretty high,

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Speaker 3: but just the moments that he just delivered again and

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Speaker 3: again and again. Every time it seemed like they needed

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Speaker 3: something from Fernando Mendoza, he delivered all year long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my I use spots will be higher on my list.

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Speaker 2: I will go and you know, again this is part

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Speaker 2: of I guess whatever journalism or sports stories, unfortunately they

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Speaker 2: all can't be great sports stories. Number three on the list,

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Speaker 2: I had the passing of Jim Mersey. When you think

638
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Speaker 2: about figures in this state, certainly from a sports standpoint,

639
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how much bigger they get than him.

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Speaker 2: So you know that passing that occurred, you know, back

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Speaker 2: in May. Obviously philanthropically, you think about what he's done.

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00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: You know, NFL wise always thought he just did a

643
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Speaker 2: great job of, you know, going to bat for Indy

644
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: on a bigger market scale, and you know, certainly Peyton

645
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: Manning was a huge, huge part of it. But I

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Speaker 2: also think Jim Mersey's constant pressure of, you know, telling

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Speaker 2: the NFL, hey we can host a super Bowl was huge,

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Speaker 2: and that twenty twelve super Bowl. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it happens with just an ordinary owner, if you will,

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Speaker 2: and I think Jim Mersey was certainly not ordinary. I

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Speaker 2: had iu than one B, and I kind of grew

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Speaker 2: big ten and Mendoza together. Obviously, as James points out,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six list could look a whole lot different.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, winning that game the Mendoza story, that to me,

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Speaker 2: I technically I got a one B on my list there,

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Speaker 2: so I got a little gaps.

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Speaker 3: Oh I had olvery say a number four. So we're

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Speaker 3: kind of all in the same ballpark right there. All right,

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Speaker 3: Then let's move on to the second largest story.

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Speaker 1: Number two. So number two.

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Speaker 6: This actually kind of goes with what Kevin just said,

662
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 6: and so Caleb on the sound there. My number two

663
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 6: moment was the death of Jim Mersey, I believe the

664
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: same night that Halliburton hit the game tying shot in

665
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 6: Game one against the Knicks in the Conference Finals. So

666
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 6: just the dichotomy of the emotions that the city was

667
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 6: going through. I remember doing the show with you all

668
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 6: the next day and trying to balance that because on

669
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 6: one hand, it's like you feel like you have this

670
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 6: team of destiny after making that shot against that team.

671
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 6: In that moment, I mean, you got Tyre's Halliburton doing

672
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 6: the regimular choke song with the guy sitting courts I

673
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 6: call in the game versus obviously someone who, like you said,

674
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 6: Kevin was a big pillar in this city. And really

675
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 6: when they brought the Colt here changed the landscape of

676
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 6: the city. So the death and then the joy of

677
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 6: the Tyres Halliburton shot all kind of in the same

678
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 6: twenty four hours. That was my second biggest moment of

679
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 6: twenty twenty five in Indiana sports.

680
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: All big moments, no question about that.

681
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: I went with Indiana beating Ohio State as the number

682
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: two moment we keep talking about. This is the biggest

683
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: moment in IU football history. Yes, the game was in

684
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: some ways meaningless. It was about seeding for the College

685
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: Football Playoff, but to finish off your regular season undefeated.

686
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: And then played the juggernut.

687
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: That has always vexed you the power in your conference.

688
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: Ohio State had beat them in thirty years right somewhere,

689
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: and to.

690
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: Beat them on a quote unquote neutral field the way

691
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: your defense performed the way again Mendoza stepped up in

692
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: big moments at key times with Becker and the other

693
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: wide receivers. That to me was the number two sports

694
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: moment of the year because of just the century of

695
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: gravity that it carried with it.

696
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only other thing I'd add on I you

697
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: obviously again like I said I had at one Bee

698
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: would be they were on freaking sixty minutes. Like how

699
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: many times have we seen, you know, the state of

700
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Indiana have a sports story qualified for sixty minutes. Okay, well,

701
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: I guess Caleb, should we go number one since I

702
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: already gave out my number two one b if you will,

703
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: here we go number one. The cinema of the Pacers

704
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: run all the Halliburton game winners, just all of it.

705
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: It's not obviously getting to the game seven is probably

706
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: worthy of the number one spot enough, I think, And

707
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: it's saying something because this list, to me has got

708
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: a lot of great, great stories or super unique stories

709
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: or big stories every want to label it all, But

710
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: getting to that moment and having the layup on Giannis

711
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: having the shot in Cleveland with a comeback the knee

712
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: Smith put back dunk, then doing it Game one in

713
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden where the ball seemingly hangs in the

714
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: air forever, and then the NBA Finals doing it against

715
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder on the road, setting the tone for

716
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: a real opportunity to upset. You know what, is one

717
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: of the best champions we've seen in the NBA, And unfortunately,

718
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: I think when you tall, when you talk about the

719
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: Pacers story in the cinema of it, you have to

720
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: include the tragedy of Game seven. You know, all of

721
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: it I think is qualifying of it's worthy of a movie.

722
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: So for me, the Indiana story is great, great, great,

723
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: and in most years it would probably take the cake

724
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: number one. But the Pacers cinema get into Game seven,

725
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: all the shots, all the heroic moments, all the big comebacks,

726
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: and obviously the Haliburton tragedy as well. That is my

727
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: number five Indian a sports story.

728
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: I like the way you phrased the cinema of the

729
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: Pacers run and I had that collective in my top ten,

730
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: but not as my number one. And to me, it

731
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: started with the regular season unbelievable falling out of bounds

732
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 3: three against the Milwaukee Bucks in that regular season game.

733
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: That kind of, to me.

734
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: Kicked off what would be just we talked about moments

735
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: all morning long that the Pacers just delivered moment after

736
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 3: moment after moment. You just detailed a lot of those,

737
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: But my specific number one moment of the year.

738
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: Good, bad or otherwise.

739
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: I believe the Pacers were on the way to winning

740
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: the NBA Championship when Tyrese Haliburton lost his achilles heel

741
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: and everything kind of started to unfold as game as

742
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: the rest the Pacers squad was for a while in

743
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: that one to keep it going and keep it close.

744
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 3: That moment was within thirty seconds you had the highest

745
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: of high's thinking they're gonna win the NBA Championship.

746
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: To oh my gosh, is this young man gonna be okay?

747
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: All at once. It just that moment was everything about

748
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: this year.

749
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

750
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 6: I actually I feel like I'm kind of cheating off

751
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 6: everybody's exam here, But my number one moment or moments

752
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 6: rather were, to your point, Jeff, the opposite ends of

753
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 6: the spectrum. You had the game winner in Game one

754
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 6: from Halliburton and that was after and him not having

755
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 6: really a great game leading up to that moment. They

756
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 6: steal the first game and you're thinking, boy, they have

757
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 6: a chance to really do this. And then you get

758
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 6: to game seven he makes the three threes and then

759
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 6: he tears the Achilles and so I know it's a

760
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 6: negative moment so to speak, because of the Achilles injury,

761
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 6: but it undoubtedly in my mind is the biggest moment

762
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 6: that we had for Indiana sports. The implications, the stage,

763
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 6: the moment. But if you're looking for again a more

764
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 6: positive spin on it, that game one game winner, boy,

765
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 6: that was Who's your esque? And again just the whole

766
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 6: right of it. It was fun, man. I enjoyed it.

767
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 6: I mean, I got a chance to cover NBA Finals

768
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 6: games the first time in my life. Have no idea

769
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 6: winner if I'll get that chance again. So thank you

770
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 6: to the Pacers for that.

771
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again everything changes on a dime. We've been

772
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: talking about it all morning long. To me, that was

773
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: the number one moment.

774
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 3: But what an unbelievable twenty twenty five As a whole, Kevin,

775
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: You've grown up here your entire life. I've lived here

776
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: for almost a decade and a half now, it's got

777
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: to be the most amazing run.

778
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we had a Super Bowl for

779
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: the for the Colts, but.

780
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 3: It's got to be one of the most amazing years

781
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: all time in Indiana sports history.

782
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you obviously try not to be prison

783
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: of the moment, but yeah, you'd be hard pressed, I guess,

784
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: to find something different. I mean, you know, it's a

785
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: list that has a college football program playing for a

786
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: national title, like fifth or sixth on it. I mean

787
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: some of I don't even think everybody had Notre Dame

788
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: on their list. Some you know, Purdue was a shot

789
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: away from making the Elite eight in the football stadium

790
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: in our state, and how many times does that happen?

791
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: The Fever story was pretty freaking wild as.

792
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 6: Well, over a time period away from being in the

793
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 6: w NBA Finals without Caitlin Clark.

794
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: All the NY five hundred drama was number six, by

795
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: the way, Alex Plow and you know, Roger Penske and

796
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: and just all of that, all of those stories there,

797
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: and I know we like laugh at it, certainly we do.

798
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: But Caleb thank you, and Mark Dyton, thank you. Like

799
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: the off the field stuff, the Mark Sanchez story, the

800
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: the John Halliburton Giannis Like, I mean those were I mean,

801
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: the Mark Sanchez story was like pretty national there for

802
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: you know whatever a handful of days something like that.

803
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 2: Indian is not always in that sort of spotlight there,

804
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think all you know, WNBA All Star Game, we.

805
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Didn't even mention the WNBOL Star.

806
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Caleb had that his list, So you know, I

807
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: think all of that, uh get a pretty good honorable

808
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: mention here in twenty twenty five for some of the

809
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: top ten.

810
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: I don't know that any other state in America, just

811
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: off top of my head, had more drama, big, meaningful,

812
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: consequential stories week in and week out than the state

813
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: of Indiana.

814
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: James, I mean, I don't know that you can't be

815
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: the states that I was going to say.

816
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

817
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 6: I'm not as plunged into the other places in America.

818
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 6: But it was a great year here. I can say

819
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 6: that for sure.

820
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: I say it all the time as someone who's been

821
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 3: on the national sportscasting scene for a long time. Indiana

822
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: is his fine a place to watch sports and joy sports,

823
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: love sports, and celebrate sports as.

824
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Any place in the country.

825
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: It just is, and they've done it consciously, whether it's

826
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: attracting big ticket items like college football championship games, the

827
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: consistency of the Big Ten Championship Game, an NBA All

828
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: Star Game at WNBA All Star Game every few years,

829
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: of Final Four, always nc DOUAA Tournament Men and Women, NFL,

830
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: NBA Big Ten, not even starting on the home of

831
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: IndyCar Racing and all that that brings not just the

832
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: month of May, but throughout other portions.

833
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Of the of the year as well. And you talk

834
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: about swimming and swimming championships and.

835
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: Big tick events like that. We didn't even bring that up.

836
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: It was it was kind of last year. But it

837
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: just goes on and on and on.

838
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: Kevin, I love that about this place.

839
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, swim trousers on my list the previous year. Yeah,

840
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: And I guess it'll dentially be on in here coming up.

841
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: And it's still one of the coolest things I've ever

842
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 3: seen to see an Olympic sized swimming pool on the

843
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: floor of Lucas Oil Stadium.

844
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: Man, that was really cool.

845
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: As early as what tomorrow at eight o'clock, we're going

846
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: to have potentially a game that might be hard to

847
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: remove off number one. Yeah, of the list, I guess.

848
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: For next year.

849
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: I almost wanted to put it there, perdue basketball might

850
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: have a chance to, you know, speak to that in April.

851
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: And I don't think the Pacers going to have some

852
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: magical run here by any means.

853
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 6: But well we'll have something on that list. Think at

854
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: the number one pick. Number one moment might be.

855
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, it'll look at a little different here.

856
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: Pacers, by the way, need a nineteen game winning streak

857
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: to get back to five hundred.

858
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: Right now, bring me aj De Bands instead, man oh.

859
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: Man, all right, Caleb, anything else you want to point

860
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: out before we wrap up the top ten list here.

861
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 10: I was just gonna throw into Kevin. I know, you

862
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 10: know you brought up the passing of Jim Rsay. I

863
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 10: was also gonna throw in the passing of Nancy Leonard

864
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 10: right with that, just two real important figures to this

865
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 10: state and the sports in the state and made both

866
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 10: of those sports, basketball and football professionally big in this town.

867
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 10: So instrumental to that, and yeah, just really cool and

868
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 10: really James, you threw in a lot of your personal

869
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 10: kind of tie ins to those moments, and I would

870
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 10: just say, like, pretty cool to move this state this

871
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 10: year and have a lot of this stuff happened while

872
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 10: I was here, So just Ohio's.

873
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: Going to be in your review mirror any.

874
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 10: Day, any day now, right, But I repeat a lot

875
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 10: of things you said, Jeff about what a great state

876
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 10: this is to be a sports fan.

877
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, then Nancy Leonard one, Yeah, that's yeah, job all

878
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: done there, Caleb, I would agree wholeheartedly on that. And

879
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: you think about figures, so yeah, there's a lot here.

880
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot from obviously the games itself,

881
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: the figures itself on the floor, off the floor, unfortunately passings,

882
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: but at his life. So hell of a twenty twenty

883
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: five when you look at it. From Indiana sports standpoint man.

884
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Oh Man on to twenty twenty six.

885
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: And let's get it started off right with a big

886
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: game tomorrow.

887
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: James Boyd tell you all about that.

888
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: Right here, right now, we are getting closer and closer

889
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: to a four pm kickoff tomorrow afternoon at the Rose Bowl, Pasadena, California.

890
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 3: It'll be the Indiana Hoosiers and the Alabama Crimson died

891
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 3: James Boyd. The Hoosiers start the day with a seven

892
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: point favorite status.

893
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 6: How about that, Dy've earned it number one team in

894
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 6: the country. And as Kurtzignetti said, they're not playing the

895
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 6: mistique of Alabama. They're playing the tape, and the tape

896
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 6: to me says that I use the better team.

897
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: You wanted to get them hungry and humble from the

898
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: Big Ten championship game till tomorrow.

899
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: The way that they were.

900
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: Talking yesterday, it kind of sounds like they've been.

901
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: Able to accomplish that.

902
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: Kevin, Yeah, we'll see what mother nature looks like here

903
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: over the next twenty four to thirty six hours. Sounds

904
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: like good amount of rain in there when I Houston,

905
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 2: Randy Rose bulls by any means, but potentially could clear

906
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: out in time for the one o'clock local kickoff out there.

907
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, again, I think Indiana far more of the

908
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: consistent team. And twenty four to thirteen, I'll go, Hoo's

909
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: yours all right?

910
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: First quarterfinal game, all of the college football playoff comes

911
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: your way. Later on tonight, seven thirty kickoff at the

912
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: Cotton Bowl. It'll be second seed Ohio State to Caleb

913
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: taking on Miami. How does this one play out this?

914
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: Miami have a chance. Miami has a chance.

915
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 10: I think a lot's been made about their front four

916
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 10: in front seven specific and how that matches up with

917
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 10: Ohio State. You're kind of a little nervous because Ohio

918
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 10: State got pushed around against Indiana in their last time out.

919
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 10: So I think I think Kevin's right when he says

920
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 10: that nine and a half spread is probably a little

921
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 10: too big. I do expect Ohio State to win, but

922
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 10: should be a good one to kick off this quarterfinal.

923
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: All right, And then tomorrow twelve noon, the first game

924
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: will be Oregon taking on Texas Tech. That's the five

925
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: seed versus the four seed at the Orange Bowl. Then

926
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: of course Alabama Indiana at the Rose Bowl. That'll be

927
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: followed tomorrow night eight pm kick Ole Miss and Georgia.

928
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: And we've been talking about ole Miss and a scattering

929
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: of their coaching staff still around to try and coach

930
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: the Rebels.

931
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: Through that one.

932
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: Welcome to college football in the year of twenty twenty five.

933
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: It is a bit awkward, a bit shady, a bit yeah,

934
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: it's just it's messy. Butt's a bit Yeah, Let's just

935
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: play some games and try to forget about it.

936
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: There were three bowl games last night.

937
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: The Independence Bowl won by Louisiana Tech twenty three to

938
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 3: fourteen over Coastal Carolina Illinois James a winner over Tennessee

939
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: thirty twenty eight at the Music City Bowl in Nashville.

940
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Did you even pay attention to that game?

941
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 6: No, I haven't paid attention to since they lost about

942
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 6: thousand tie you, but shout out to the Alma Water.

943
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: I'll pay attention again when I'm out of debt, so

944
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 6: it might be a little while.

945
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: All right.

946
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: The TCU horn Frogs started a quarterback for the first time,

947
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: and Ken Seals led them to an overtime victory against

948
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: usc by a score of thirty to twenty seven. He

949
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: threw for two hundred and fifty eight yards and a touchdown.

950
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: That catches you up on college football college basketball. It

951
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: was Butler losing at Creighton eighty nine eighty five. They

952
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: fall to ten and four. Now they'll play again Saturday

953
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: at Villanova. Was there anything else we need to mention

954
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: for college basketball games?

955
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: Well, thing you know about the Butler game. For those

956
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: that didn't watch last night, Evan Haywood was trying his

957
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 2: best Tyrese Haliburn there at the end. It was wild

958
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: watching him bang in some threes as Butler tried to

959
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: make it interest seem But with that Jalen Jackson injury

960
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: and Michael Jaya and foul trouble is just not a

961
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: game they can play. So that's the round and finley

962
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: Bizjacks got to get back to what he was doing

963
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: earlier in the year. Still very competitive road at creating

964
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: a place of the Butler's not had success at all.

965
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: So big weekend game with Villanova, Big one Tuesday with

966
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Saint John's for some Quad one opportunities.

967
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: Also after the game, coach McDermott said, that is a

968
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: really good basketball team.

969
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: He was talking about Butler. He was giving him all

970
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: kinds of kudos after the game. Anything else college basketball?

971
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 4: Do you want to talk about?

972
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: You've neglected Notre Dame already twice this morning, so might

973
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: as well do the third time Notre Dame. Say Notre

974
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: Dame fall on the list of teams that you read off.

975
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: Were they playing with peach baskets in that game last

976
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 3: night against Stanford?

977
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: Eighty five Bears, two thousand Ravensivetemver Broncos.

978
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 6: One day bricks shot in that game could build a

979
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 6: new stadium one day.

980
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: Jeff will respect Notre Dame basketball, Well.

981
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 4: He shouldn't respected that. The last night I'll say.

982
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: The road winning conference.

983
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 4: Hey, I respect it. I stayed up for a half

984
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 4: last night.

985
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: How many teams have two true road wins before the

986
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: new year?

987
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 4: Do you again?

988
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 11: Fifty six shots? Two Stanford team, By the way, they

989
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 11: each shot fifty six times. The one teammate eighteen shots,

990
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 11: the other one made thirteen. The amount of bricks that

991
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 11: were thrown in there. People should be getting insurance claims.

992
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: Wow.

993
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: Later on this afternoon, Pacers at home for a three

994
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: point thirty tip against the Orlando Magic three pm. The

995
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: airtime here at ninety three five one oh seven five.

996
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: The Pacers trying to snap a nine game losing streak,

997
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: currently with the worst record in the NBA at six

998
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: and twenty seven. And again I pointed this out a

999
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: couple of hours ago, but Kevin, in their defense, they

1000
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 3: have now used twenty four different players this year.

1001
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane they I would have to look this up,

1002
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: but they might have more transactions this season than the Colts.

1003
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: That might be true. Colts of Texans on Sunday. They

1004
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: have lost six straight.

1005
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: The Colts have Riley Leonard will start the game at quarterback.

1006
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: Who will and who won't plays kind of a question

1007
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: for various different reasons.

1008
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 6: James, Yeah, I will say I just don't think that

1009
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 6: Sauce Gardener should play.

1010
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: I know other players.

1011
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 6: You have to, you know, factor in injuries, and I

1012
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 6: do think there's a certain element of you get paid

1013
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 6: a whole money to play football, so if you're healthy,

1014
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 6: you should play. But he's not healthy, So why even

1015
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 6: risk it considering that he is literally the two first

1016
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 6: round picks you gave up in that trade.

1017
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: Jaguars will be hosting the Tennessee Titans. With a win there,

1018
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: they can win.

1019
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: The AFC South outright and.

1020
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: Move on to the NFL playoffs. Alorry in the playoffs,

1021
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: but the Jaguars are on a roll right now. If

1022
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: you're wondering the latest Super Bowl odds, the Seattle Seahawks

1023
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: at plus four seventy five are the favorites right now.

1024
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: The Rams at plus five fifty, Broncos at plus seven hundred,

1025
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers at plus eight fifty, and the

1026
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 3: Patriots at plus nine hundred. Beginning of the season, would

1027
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: you have selected those five teams to be on top?

1028
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: And we talked to you a little bit about this

1029
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: the other day. I cannot recall a week eighteen entering

1030
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: the playoffs where we've had this much indecision on Super

1031
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 2: Bowl favorites. So you know, you asked TOEPHN hold it earlier.

1032
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: Who's the best team in the AFC, who's the best

1033
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: team in the NFC, Who's the best team in the

1034
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: NFC West?

1035
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: Would you say San Francisco right now? Or would you

1036
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: say Seattle?

1037
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, if I had to stretch the NFC,

1038
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: what about Philly? What about Chicago?

1039
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: Philly just won in Buffalo as a.

1040
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: Green Bay at sneaky seven seed. That looks like a

1041
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: pretty sneaky seven seed to me. So yeah, I.

1042
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: Think nobody's bringing up Mark s Bears.

1043
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: I did say Mark Spears. I think you know both

1044
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: conferences right now, there's a lot, a lot of unknown.

1045
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: It could be an exciting playoffs. I wish the Colts

1046
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: were going to be a part of it. That's just

1047
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: the way the cookie crumbles, so to speak. All right,

1048
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: coming up in a moment, Rick Carlisle, the head basketball

1049
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: coach of the Indiana Pacers, stops by for his weekly

1050
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: conversation with JB and KB.

1051
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: We'll hear it next.

1052
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, everybody out there, certainly safe endeavors tonight

1053
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: for those that are out there, it's kind of become

1054
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: typical for the Indiana Pacers where they are hosting this

1055
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve game. It's the matinee game, if you will,

1056
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: so three o'clock right here in these airwaves. It'll be

1057
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: the Orlando Magic as the Pacers tried to end their

1058
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: nine game losing streak. They've got Victor Webbin Yam and

1059
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: the Spurs then coming up on Friday. Talk more about it.

1060
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: We headed the Payoffs Sickers hotline right now. He is

1061
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Pacers. He is a Rick

1062
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: Carlisle coach. Happy New Year to you, Good morning.

1063
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1064
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: Likewise, I guess let's just start with the uniqueness of

1065
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: the three o'clock start. That definitely doesn't happen too too often.

1066
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: What does that do from a schedule standpoint for you

1067
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: guys in terms of preparation on a day like today.

1068
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 8: It just moves everything up a few hours and so

1069
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 8: on game days at home, normally we come in in

1070
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 8: the afternoon three hours before game time and we'll do

1071
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 8: a film session, we'll do an on court walk through

1072
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 8: run through, and then and then get ready to play.

1073
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 8: So instead of coming in at four we'll be in

1074
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 8: there around noon today.

1075
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: Rick.

1076
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 6: Throughout this nine game skid, do you see any overlapping

1077
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 6: themes throughout it that you all need to change to try?

1078
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 6: You know, obviously snapping tonight in the year on high note, Uh.

1079
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we got a we got a fight

1080
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 8: in consistency, and there have been a lot of different

1081
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 8: things that have come up. Certainly, you know, in the

1082
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 8: Miami game there were twenty six turnovers. You know, it's

1083
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 8: it's great to have a good offensive nights and get

1084
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 8: thirty assists, but then when you get twenty six turnovers

1085
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 8: or whatever it was, thirty seven points or something like that,

1086
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 8: you just can't you just can't survive. So at times,

1087
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 8: rebounding has been a big thing. Obviously the game against Houston,

1088
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 8: you know their with their ability to rebound, that was

1089
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 8: going to be a Challenge's.

1090
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 9: Been a lot of things, but no excuses.

1091
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 8: You know, another opportunity today against a very good Magic

1092
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 8: team and uh we'll have to be ready.

1093
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: Okay, that's three o'clock today, Pacers in Magic. Rick Carlisle

1094
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: with us here. Do you think was over the weekend

1095
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: both Pascal Siakam and TJ McConnell had some comments after.

1096
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Speaker 2: I think it was the Boston game. You know, Sam

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00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: says something effective. You know, it didn't feel like you

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00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: guys tried it hard enough On offense. I think McConnell,

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00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: you know, mentioned, you know, not fighting the way that

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Speaker 2: we usually do. I know, the effort word is probably

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Speaker 2: a word that gets a lot of attention. Have you

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Speaker 2: been pleased with the effort amidst a season that's obviously

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00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: been very trying?

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Speaker 9: Overall, we can all do.

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Speaker 2: Pacer, said coach Rick Carlos. With this year on the

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00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: Payloffs Lookers hotline starting lineup, Johnny Furfrey's gotten a little

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00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: run here as of late. I know Aaron E. Smith

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00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: is getting back to work. You've mentioned Furfrey easy guy

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00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: to root for when you say that, or easy guy

1110
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: to like? Maybe what is it about his game that

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00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: from a coaching standpoint, he's a guy that you like

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00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: having out there.

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Speaker 8: He goes hard, He you know, unconditionally gives you everything

1114
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 8: he has. You know, a team where running is a

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00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 8: real priority, he always runs hard. He always does his

1116
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 8: job in that. In that respect.

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00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 9: The other thing is, you know, there there are are

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00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 9: other things. I guess I should say.

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Speaker 8: He rebounds the ball, He's a very active crasher offensively

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Speaker 8: and a very good defensive rebounder. And he's he's just

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Speaker 8: super unselfish, you know, in plays with with a with

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Speaker 8: a boundless energy and.

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Speaker 9: Always a very very good spirit.

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Speaker 8: So you know, guys like that are winning type players,

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Speaker 8: and you can never have enough of them, I guess,

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00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 8: I guess, I guess you you should say you never

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00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 8: have too many of them.

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Speaker 6: Rick, you talk about, you know, not having too many

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00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 6: of those types of players. One of those I would

1130
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Speaker 6: imagine is Pascal Siakam ninth in the All Star fan

1131
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 6: voting for the Eastern Conference. How do you have you

1132
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 6: have you seen him navigate this season and be a

1133
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 6: leader when you know obviously he wants to win it

1134
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 6: all costs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a it's been a difficult challenge for for him,

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00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 8: and uh, really all the guys.

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00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 9: Coming into this, you know.

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Speaker 8: So look, it's it's important to communicate with all the players,

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00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 8: particularly the leaders. So I spent a lot of time,

1140
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 8: uh talking with him and Andrew Nemar and hearon Ne

1141
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 8: Smith and just you know, keeping a pulse on things,

1142
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 8: hearing them out what they see and feel on the court.

1143
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 8: And you know, we always all the time, have to

1144
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 8: be in a problem solving mode even when things are good.

1145
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 8: And you know, right now it's you know, we're not

1146
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 8: in one of those periods. But in the NBA, it's

1147
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 8: you know, it's difficult. You know, every game is hard,

1148
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 8: every team is good, Margins are always slim, mars are

1149
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 8: particularly slimming this year, and we got to understand that,

1150
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 8: and uh, we got to do everything we can, you know,

1151
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 8: the fush things beyond the point where you know, an

1152
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 8: ordinary effort just isn't enough. So again today another another

1153
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 8: really strong challenge.

1154
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 9: But the magic but.

1155
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 8: Great thing about the NBA and never rest way too

1156
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 8: long to play again.

1157
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's afternoon game again, Pacers, some magic three o'clock.

1158
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: We appreciate Rick Carlisle joined us on a game day

1159
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: kind of going off James's point with Siakam, you know,

1160
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: for you as the head coach. I mean we talked

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00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: in the previous segment. I mean, you guys might have

1162
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: as many transactions right now as the Colts have had

1163
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: over the course of the seventeen game season. I mean

1164
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: it's north of I think twenty players have scored a

1165
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: bucket for you, and we're you know, not even close

1166
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: really to the halfway point of the season. How big

1167
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: I guess of a challenge has it been for you?

1168
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: Just from a coaching standpoint a A How unique and

1169
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: be how difficult?

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Speaker 9: Both? Yeah, No, it's both.

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Speaker 8: It's this has been unlike any year I've had, uh

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Speaker 8: and I've had I've had years. You know, we went

1173
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Speaker 8: through the brawl year where we went through difficult times, suspensions, injuries,

1174
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 8: everything else. Uh, but it's a long season, and so

1175
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 8: you know, hope, hope springs eternal. I mean, you've got

1176
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 8: to keep things positive. You know, we're starting to get

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00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 8: a little healthier. That's a good sign. But nobody wants

1178
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 8: to Nobody wants to hear about how hard things are.

1179
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 9: And you know, uh, any you know woe is me

1180
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 9: type stuff. You know that's not that's not going to

1181
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 9: get it.

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00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

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00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 8: We gotta we gotta, we gotta circle of wagons and

1184
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 8: do better, simple as that.

1185
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Speaker 6: Rick you talk about not having a woe is me

1186
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 6: attitude and one of those guys I think you'd probably

1187
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 6: referred to in that same realm Miss Tyres Halliburton. What

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00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 6: has it been like seeing him get to rehab on

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00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 6: the court before some of these home games recently and

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00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 6: perhaps feeling the injury of the crowd and the excitement

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00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 6: of his potential return obviously next season.

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Speaker 9: He's doing great. He's doing great.

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00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 8: I would have to think he's I had a schedule

1194
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 8: by some pretty good margin.

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00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 9: But yeah, like technology and rehab.

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00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 8: And those kinds of everything is so so much better

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00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 8: than it was a few years ago. That look, he

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00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 8: was just seeing the injury. I forget what time it was,

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Speaker 8: but in less than twenty four hours, an injury happened

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00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 8: in Oklahoma. In less than twenty four hours, the surgery

1201
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Speaker 8: was completed.

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Speaker 9: And so you know, you've got you've got a lot.

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Speaker 8: Of things working in the favor of today's at me,

1204
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 8: certainly the timing element there, Uh, private airplanes and all

1205
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 8: that kind of stuff. And you know, doctor O'Malley has

1206
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 8: become a trusted friend of many NBA teams are are

1207
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 8: certainly included. And uh he made the time.

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00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 9: And and and that was.

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Speaker 8: That was done very quickly, and that always helps to facilitate

1210
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 8: a more more.

1211
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Speaker 9: Positive rehab situation.

1212
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 8: So I'm sure people have seen, you know, a lot

1213
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 8: of the a lot of videos posted. You know, he's

1214
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 8: going to basketball, He's doing a lot of sprinting, He's

1215
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 8: doing a lot of you know, everything gets ramped up,

1216
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 8: and I think every couple of weeks there is a

1217
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 8: new element introduced to the rehab. And to this point

1218
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Speaker 8: he's done very very well with everything.

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Speaker 2: Rick oneto this and again we appreciate the time here

1220
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: on a game day. I believe this is the final

1221
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: day for you as the head of the Coaches Association,

1222
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: A very lengthy run for you in that role. Any

1223
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: partying gifts an any final day, I guess the virtual

1224
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: party that they're having for you now.

1225
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I had a call a couple of days ago with

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Speaker 8: JP Beckerstaff, who is the incoming president, and just you know,

1228
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 8: went through with him sort of you know, all the

1229
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 8: things that have kind of.

1230
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 9: Gone on over over my twenty years, a.

1231
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 8: Lot of the situational things, a lot of the people

1232
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 8: that you know, I've had the great opportunity to work

1233
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 8: with in the league office and in many other places,

1234
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 8: and just giving him a few recommendations about the starting

1235
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 8: point for him and stuff. But I'm very very excited.

1236
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 8: I mean, this is this was this was the right

1237
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 8: time to pass the torch. Twenty years, you know, is

1238
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 8: a very very long time to do.

1239
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Speaker 3: This.

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Speaker 8: He is a great selection by our membership, you know,

1241
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 8: in the election process. Passionate guy, Uh, natural leader, you know,

1242
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 8: very very very enthusiastic about the coaching profession. His dad,

1243
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 8: Bernie Becker Staff, is the guy.

1244
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 9: That you know, I believe at some point we'll be.

1245
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 8: In the Hall of Fame as a contributor, you know,

1246
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 8: first ever African American president of an NBA franchise.

1247
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 9: He was a great coach and he's.

1248
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 8: Been a great mentor for many, many decades to so

1249
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 8: many young coaches and players, myself included.

1250
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Speaker 1: And so.

1251
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 8: Jab's learned many great lessons from his dad. And uh,

1252
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 8: this will be, uh, this will be an amazing.

1253
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 9: Experience for him. You know, there there are a lot of.

1254
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 8: Good things on the horizon with the league. There are

1255
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 8: some there are some challenges to be faced, but things

1256
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 8: are in a in an overall a good place. And

1257
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 8: I'm excited for him and uh, you know, excited to

1258
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 8: be transitioning out of that position.

1259
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: Well, congrats on that. Happy New year to you and

1260
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 2: Donna and the family, and good luck this afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Coach