1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't look like much. You might say. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: What he looks like is inconsequential. His name is Graham Lenahan, 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: l I inny l I n e h A N. 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Here's the story, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys, good 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: to be with you, Good to be here. 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Let's walk through the story. 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: Graham Lenahan was arrested under law called the Public Order Act. 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: Officers involved in the arrest had reasonable grounds to believe 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: an offense had been committed. 10 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: Why was he arrested. 11 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: He was arrested for tweets that he put out, posts 12 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: he put out on social media, and then he while 13 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: he was in the US, he arrives at Heathrow. He's 14 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: he's Irish. He arrives at Heathrow. He's detained by five 15 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: armed officers in his sub stack. He said that his 16 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: arrest was related to these posts on x from April. 17 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: The first post said, if a transidentified male is in 18 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: a female only space, he is committing a violent abusive act, 19 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: make a scene, call the cops, and of all else 20 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: mails punch him in the uh. 21 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: Punch him in the uh in the in the lowers. 22 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: He didn't say lowers, Yeah. 23 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: He said something else. I'm not sure I could say 24 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: on radio and I will. I will protect my affiliates, right, 25 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: that was one of the posts. Somehow that's a crime 26 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: in the UK. He wasn't in there, as I understand 27 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: that he wasn't in the UK when that took place. 28 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: The chat room is now coming out with different terms 29 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: for the lower areas. 30 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, good one, you good. 31 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: You go to YouTube and go to Tony katsutube dot com 32 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: slash Tony Kats and you can see it for yourself. 33 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: It's not a crime. It's not a crime to do this. 34 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 2: Except we see things in the view of America believers 35 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: in free speech, including speech that might be considered offensive, 36 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: we see things differently. The Brits don't believe in free speech. 37 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: Europeans don't believe in free speech. That post got this 38 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: dude arrested. This brings us to somebody on Twitter by 39 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: the name of baby Beginner. Jennifer is their name. That's 40 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: what she says. And what Jennifer noted was that jk 41 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: Rowling writes in defensive women and gets these messages sent 42 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: to her. Graham linehem stands up for her and other women, 43 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: and he has five officers come to the airport to 44 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: arrest him. What are the posts jk Rowling, I'll kill you. 45 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: Here's another one. 46 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: I'll kill you. 47 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: I'll kill jk Rowling myself gotta hate jk Rowling. Please 48 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: kill her for my eighteenth birthday. Hear me out kill 49 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: jk Rowling on ironically This goes on for pages twelve 50 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: to a page. This goes on and on and on. 51 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: Kill yourself, fix your hard or die die And they 52 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: call her a they call her a kind of witch. 53 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: This goes on and on and on and so what 54 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: Jennifer put here? Baby beginner on Twitter X. I don't 55 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: know her, but I like it is. 56 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: Check out how they view things. 57 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: Look what you could say about British citizen jk Rowling 58 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: if you're in Britain or elsewhere. This guy can't say 59 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: one thing, can't say one thing about about trans by 60 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: the way men who think they're women are mentally ill 61 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: need help should not be allowed in women's spaces. We 62 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: should protect women no matter what. Not apologizing for that? 63 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Does this mean I can't stop footing in the UK? 64 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: Now? Am I now not able to visit London? 65 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm an American citizen with all the free speech capabilities. 66 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: In the world. 67 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: If I go to London, do I get a arrested? 68 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: And now I gotta ask you know what I think 69 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: I gotta do. I think I got to go to London. 70 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: I think I think I I. 71 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: Think I have to go just to see if I 72 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: get arrested. What do you think of British jail is Like, 73 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I'm assuming the food is terrible. 74 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: Like that's the only thing so far that that that 75 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: I know for sure. In addition to these. 76 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Things that I just shared with you, remember this. 77 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: Guy Graham who has a has a career. He's created sitcoms. 78 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: He's a comic I want to sitcom called father Ted 79 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: and one called the it Crowd. 80 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: He is. He got arrested for this statement. 81 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: So now this woman, Jennifer Baby Beginner starts posting all 82 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: of the violent people in the trans movement. Here's a 83 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: woman with a T shirt that reads, I punch turfs. 84 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: Turf is transeclusionary radical feminists. So you support women, but 85 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: you don't support men who claim their women, So you're 86 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: trans exclusionary. I punch turfs. Here's another one with a 87 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: man wearing a wig wearing a rainbow scarf and a speedo. 88 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: The things I do for you. 89 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: I have to look at this so I can share 90 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: the story with you. Don't have a question whether or 91 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: not I love you, all right, you you take your 92 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: time and listen to the show. I appreciate it. I 93 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: am willing to sacrifice my eyeballs for you. 94 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: That's how much I love you and appreciate you. 95 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: So this dude is saying, pride, mother blinkers, punch a 96 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: t in the neck. Then you have all these posts. 97 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: Trans rights are human rights. Punch a nazi, blank fascism, 98 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: throat chop a turf, curb stomp, truscum. 99 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what that's supposed to be. Is that 100 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be. 101 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: A Trump reference? Make racist scared again? Well, who's a 102 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: racist better? I disagree with check out the advocating for 103 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: violence every day should be punch a turf in the 104 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: throat day. I hate them, And if I ever get 105 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 2: a chance to punch a turf, I'm gonna punch a Nazi. 106 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Kick a turf. Happy Christmas to all who observe. And 107 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: this goes on for pages. 108 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: Fix your heart or die, bigot. 109 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: It goes on and on and on. Here's an image. Right, 110 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Here is an image, a cartoon image, and it reads 111 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: shut the blank up turf and the cartoon character is 112 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: holding a gun pointed at the screen, pointed at you. 113 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: UK has nothing to say about this. 114 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: Here's one fix your heart or die transphobe. Transphobe. They 115 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: just love the fobe stuff. They think they're good and 116 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: decent people. By the way, it's turf t e r 117 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: f is how it's spelled. It's a great point being 118 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: made here about what we will and don't except what 119 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: it is that's happening, the violence that's taking place, and 120 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,119 Speaker 2: from whom, from Where. 121 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Is the violence coming from? Whom is the violence coming? 122 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: And the violence is coming from the political left, It's 123 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: coming from this trans movement. 124 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: If I notice who's being violent in the UK, do 125 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: I go to jail? 126 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: Jk Rowling is right and all these people opposed to 127 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: her are wrong. 128 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: If I go to London, do I get arrested? Yes? 129 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: Or no? I don't have an answer. I don't actually know. 130 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: I've yet to get to London. I want to go. 131 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: There's a lot of traveling I need to do. I 132 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: want to do. Some people wait until they're retire. They 133 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: do all the traveling I would like to travel while 134 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 2: my knees work. I have things I want to see. 135 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: It's time to start doing that. 136 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: Can I go. 137 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: It's a fascinating bit of conversation here, how completely and 138 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: purposefully blind people are. I don't think this comic Graham 139 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: Lenahan Lenahan did anything wrong. 140 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he did anything wrong at all. And 141 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: that he was arrested is madness. 142 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: That's not a healthy society, that is an endangered society. 143 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: Will they ever self correct? 144 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: The answer is I don't think so, because the self 145 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: correct from this would mean they'd have to self correct 146 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: with some other things, like allowing the country to be 147 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: overrun by Islamists. 148 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: But maybe it's one thing at a time. We're not 149 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: all built alike, you know, to quote Kendrick Lamar, They're 150 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: not like us. They're not. 151 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: And I think that the United States needs to be 152 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: very clear with the UK that we have free speech, whether. 153 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: They like it or not. 154 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: And if they want to say to people in the 155 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: United States that somehow you're violating our law for discussions 156 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: you have in the US, that that's an injustice that 157 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: won't stand. You can be as crazed as you want, 158 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't affect our people in the slightest. I'm Tony Katz. 159 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: Oh by the way, if you're in the United States, 160 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: why should it affect you? Yeah, this guy is Irish, 161 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: but he's in the United States. Why should Why can't 162 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: he say that? Oh, all of a sudden, if you're 163 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: from another country, the laws don't apply. 164 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: Good to know. 165 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: We'll be sure to have that conversation regarding illegal immigrants. 166 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: This is Tony Catch today.