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Speaker 1: So let me begin with a little public service announcement.

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Speaker 1: And maybe I should have known this, but I always

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Speaker 1: get thrown off by this. It's not a surprise. It's

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Speaker 1: not a shock that sometimes common sense or other things

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Speaker 1: elude me. Okay, now allow me to ask this to you,

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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison. Yes, sir, do we When did it begin?

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Speaker 1: And maybe this has always been the case? And I understand,

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Speaker 1: I respect, I appreciate, I enjoy that Saint Patrick's Day

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Speaker 1: and the parade for it in Indianapolis is largely I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't say largely. I mean this in a positive, not

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Speaker 1: a negative way, but it is, you know, a parochial

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Speaker 1: school celebration. A lot of times, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: Catholic school kids are down for the Saint Patrick's Day parade.

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Speaker 1: That seems to be a large percentage of the people

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Speaker 1: maybe it's for that reason that they do it this way.

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Speaker 1: But someone else can let me know this. When did

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Speaker 1: it come to be that the Saint Patrick's Day parade

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Speaker 1: to obviously fall on a Friday. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Makes sense that I don't know the answer to your question.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, though it's a great day.

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Speaker 1: It is a beautiful day, absolutely gorgeous day outside, and

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Speaker 1: it is a glorious day in the world at basketball

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Speaker 1: as well. Happy beginning celebration of Saint Patrick's Day. How's that?

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Speaker 1: That sounds good? Even though Saint Patrick's Day is I'm

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Speaker 1: going to guess here, would it be on Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I have my tradition that I do every

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Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day. I look forward to doing it again

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Speaker 1: this year on Tuesday. But for those who are show

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Speaker 1: I'm ready this weekend out and have a beer. That's correct,

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Speaker 1: Go and have a green beer or a Guinness. After

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Speaker 1: you've had a Guinness that is in the Guinness factory

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Speaker 1: in Dublin where they use the little machine that puts

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Speaker 1: your picture in the foam. Then it's hard to hard

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Speaker 1: to top that, right, correct, but nonetheless we shall try.

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Speaker 1: But it's a beautiful day because not only is it

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Speaker 1: a gorgeous day in Indianapolis. And thank you for tuning

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Speaker 1: in to Querying Company. My name is Jake Quarry, Eddie

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Speaker 1: Garrison the other voice you just heard. But it is

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Speaker 1: that time of year with basketball where everything basically is awesome,

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Speaker 1: and that includes last night. Two things that happened I

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Speaker 1: thought that were pretty cool in the Big Ten tournament.

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Speaker 1: The first being obviously seeing Purdue advance, and we can

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Speaker 1: get into the nuances of that game in a second.

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Speaker 1: The other being I did think that it was classy

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Speaker 1: And you know, Nick Martinelli had heat strong game, right,

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Speaker 1: one of the better scores in the Big Ten, and

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Speaker 1: last night was really good. And Northwestern you can say

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Speaker 1: it produced twenty four and eight. Of course they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to these regular you know, these postseason tournaments. Is it

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Speaker 1: So for that fact, it was a good win for Purdue.

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Speaker 1: Then the other glorious thing that happened last night, glorious, Eddie.

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Speaker 1: You and I had a brief discussion last evening and

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Speaker 1: What I'm excited for is I am excited for the

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Speaker 1: me a team that's had more adversity this year, and

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Speaker 1: yes it doesn't mean that they have gotten it in

432
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: the win column this year, but they are setting things

433
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Speaker 1: up for plenty of exactly those moving forward. Eddie, if

434
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: you could please lay out for me the game plan

435
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: of today's program and who we have lined up still.

436
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: Trying to work on. If we can Land Kyle Netderip

437
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: on the Today's Show to kind of talk about some

438
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: of the regional matchups and start getting ready for semi

439
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: state and State, maybe even sprinkling Jacob mister Basketball Missus

440
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: Basketball for the miss Basketball for the State of Indiana.

441
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: How that competition is going. I think we know who's

442
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: gonna win it on the girls side of things, but

443
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: I think the boy side's a fascinating discussion that could

444
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: be had. Kevin Bones on, It's at two o'clock. Well,

445
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: Kyle Kirkwood on to round out the show two forty

446
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Speaker 2: five and good for the heart Jake, we have a

447
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: doctor interview this week.

448
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: We do talking about the importance of those heart scans

449
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: that we're always talking about when we come back. It

450
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: is in Chicago, but should it be in indye And

451
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the Bears and the Colts and

452
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: whether or not and that seems to have gone on

453
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Speaker 1: the back burner, does it not.

454
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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny how this news always comes out

455
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Speaker 2: like on the eve of something happening, the eve of

456
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Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs, the eve of the NFL combine, and.

457
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Speaker 1: Then it just goes away. Yep. The ham and Bears.

458
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: Why not Indiana bring it here? But instead chicag is

459
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: borrowing something from us, and I think it's time to

460
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Speaker 1: take it back. I'll explain next right now, the Big

461
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: Ten Tournament up in Chicago. It is that rivalry game,

462
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Speaker 1: so to speak, Michigan Ohio State Wolverine's out to a

463
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Speaker 1: twenty seven to sixteen lead in the first half of

464
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Speaker 1: that game. Of course, later today it will be Wisconsin

465
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Speaker 1: and Illinois. Wisconsin to me, Oh, I.

466
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Speaker 2: Love the Badger's Jake, do you yes? I think they're

467
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Speaker 2: one of those teams that can make a real real

468
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Speaker 2: push in March, because I still believe to win the

469
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Speaker 2: NCAA tournament you need quality say what's that again?

470
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Speaker 1: Tournament?

471
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: You need quality guard play. They've got two very experienced

472
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: cards and Nick Boyd and I forget the Blackwell's kids

473
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: first name, but those two guys are really a dynamic.

474
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: They can score the rock and they've got two guys

475
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Speaker 2: down low that can rebound the basketball with some I

476
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: think the Badgers, if they can defend Jake, I think

477
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: the Badgers are a sneaky team.

478
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Speaker 1: They're playing right now in the Big Ten. What what

479
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Speaker 1: do we call this?

480
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Speaker 2: The tournament?

481
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Speaker 1: Do we have do you have been have the breaking

482
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Speaker 1: news sounder? By the way, Eddie, uh yeah, this just in.

483
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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison's actually from New Jersey. We did not know

484
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Speaker 1: that Eddie Garrison. By the way, it's John Blackwell. Did

485
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Speaker 1: not know that Eddie Garrison is an East Coast kid.

486
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Speaker 1: But that is Eddie. You would fit in nicely at

487
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Speaker 1: Rutgers or any of those other schools.

488
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Speaker 2: I've been listening to so much Joe Lenardi, It's worn

489
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Speaker 2: off on me.

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Speaker 1: I guess right. You know, realistically, I've always said tournament,

491
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Speaker 1: and I'm old enough to remember there was a brief

492
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Speaker 1: period of time, a brief period of time. Does anybody

493
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Speaker 1: else remember this? There was a brief period in like

494
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Speaker 1: the lates seventies or early eighties where they called it

495
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Speaker 1: the n C two. As I've always said, Let me

496
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Speaker 1: ask you this, Eddie. When it comes to the and

497
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Speaker 1: now you are correct, technically speaking, the first syllable of

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Speaker 1: the word is tour, tournament would would theoretically be correct. Okay,

499
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: With that said, I still think of it as tournament.

500
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Speaker 1: But when it comes to the National Collegiate Athletic Association,

501
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Speaker 1: most people say.

502
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Speaker 2: What NCAA or NCAA.

503
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Speaker 1: Does anybody else remember what it was, the n C

504
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Speaker 1: two A, the n C two A tournament, or if

505
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Speaker 1: you were listening to somebody from Jersey or Eddie Garrison,

506
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: the NC two A tournament tournament. Yeah, the Big Ten

507
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Speaker 1: Tournament being in Chicago. I know that I'm stating probably

508
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: the obvious, and I get it. Like Indiana and Northwestern,

509
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: there were two hundred and sixty four people at that game,

510
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: at least it felt like it on television. And the

511
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: problem you run into, there is no denying that Chicago

512
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: is an epicenter for the Big Ten. Obviously, it's where

513
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: the conferences base there, the Big Ten Tournament, excuse me,

514
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Network, all of it out of Chicago.

515
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: I get it. It's the home of the Big Ten.

516
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Speaker 1: And certainly if you go out in Wrigleyville and you

517
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Speaker 1: go into any bar, there are Michigan state flags and

518
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Iowa flags and Minnesota flags. I mean there are alumni

519
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: from every single school of the Big Ten represented within Chicago.

520
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: I get it. The one challenge you run into, and

521
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Speaker 1: the same thing is true when they tried to hold

522
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in New York City or the Final

523
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Speaker 1: Four in New Jersey in ninety six when you mass

524
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Speaker 1: went that John and I talked about yesterday. In the

525
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Speaker 1: big metroplex large city era, there are just so many

526
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Speaker 1: things going on that the city doesn't get consumed by

527
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten tournament or the NCAA tournament or things

528
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Speaker 1: going through. It's just another and a long line of

529
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Speaker 1: events taking place within that area. And the area is

530
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Speaker 1: so spread out and so already busy and I won't

531
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Speaker 1: say chaotic, but so many different things going on that

532
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: it becomes difficult to allow it to absorb an area.

533
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Speaker 1: That's why this is where it should be every year.

534
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Speaker 1: And I say that as a complete homer for the city.

535
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Speaker 1: I realize, but I was walking down the street a

536
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, even before the Big Ten Women's

537
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: tournament got underway, and I look up and I'm like, oh,

538
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: there's the sign for you know, Golden Gopher Lane or

539
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: whatever the city literally turns into in our downtown quadrant

540
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Speaker 1: in USA. And the crowd reflects that.

541
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: It does look like a pretty decent crowd today. And

543
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: maybe it's easier to do once you get to Friday,

544
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: but the early round games, for example, it's a I

545
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: don't know, it just feels like you don't get the

546
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Speaker 1: umph and maybe that's because I live here and so

547
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: it's hard to watch it be anywhere but here, right,

548
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: But nobody does it better, There's no doubt about that.

549
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Now you talk about Wisconsin, Wisconsin is the team I

550
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: think Nebraska you would say this about, except for the

551
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: Nebraska has been good all season long. There was a time,

552
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Speaker 1: it feels to me and this is what you want,

553
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: Eddie that and you are correct in March. You always

554
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: need good guard play. I mean that is very critically important.

555
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: That's what concerns me about. Like Duke, for example, they

556
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: have Cameron Boozer, but outside of that, they don't really

557
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: have a dynamic guard to kind of help alleviate some

558
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: of the pressure off of Boozer. Yeah, and you saw

559
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: that yesterday in their game against Florida State. Like that

560
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: game went down to the wire and for the most

561
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: part it was back and forth, and Duke found a

562
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: way to win. And it's a great test for them

563
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to figure it out here because

564
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: their starting guard is going to be out for some time. Well,

565
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: and for Wisconsin, I mean it of the teams in

566
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: the Big Ten and Michigan's outstanding Okay, no doubt about that.

567
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: They've been great all year. Yeah, but it does feel like,

568
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Speaker 1: in comparison to where teams have been over the course

569
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Speaker 1: of the year, it feels to me like Wisconsin is

570
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: absolutely clicking at the right time. I mean, if you

571
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Speaker 1: look at the way that they've closed, they have, what

572
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: have they won like eight of their last ten games

573
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: something like that, and they were but now it's really

574
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Speaker 1: come together. It feels like for them. I mean, what

575
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Speaker 1: they did to Purdue was really impressive obviously.

576
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: And Wisconsin, it used to be that Wisconsin in the

578
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: NC two A tournament, that Wisconsin was the team from

579
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten that would give teams the most fits

580
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: because they just played such a unique style. And now

581
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Speaker 1: it is weird to see Wisconsin, as Dave Revson talking

582
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: about playing at a fast pace and.

583
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: More modern, like they've got five guys on the floor

584
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Speaker 2: pretty much, I can shoot a three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's the lull you to sleep.

586
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: Bennett Arab Badgers. No more. We have not and it

587
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: has been probably a record for this week. We have

588
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: not yet discussed the Colts and free agency and some

589
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: of the interesting things that Daniel Jones had to say.

590
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: But we'll get into it next Yesterday, Daniel Jones, fresh

591
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: off his contract extension with the Indianapolis Colts two year,

592
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: eighty eight million that could be worth up to one

593
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: hundred joined JMV on this radio program or this radio station,

594
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I should say, of course J ANDV coming on every

595
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: day from three o'clock until six. I believe he is.

596
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: Is he at Joe's later today? He is, indeed, But yesterday,

597
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: let's go back to some of the things that Daniel

598
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Jones had to say, because this is a guy as

599
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback of the Colts that we don't you know,

600
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: we don't hear from a tremendous amount. Obviously you do

601
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: after each game and throughout the course of the week.

602
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: But for him to come on and spend a lot

603
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: of time on this station and with John yesterday was great.

604
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: And it began with J and V talking to Daniel

605
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: Jones just about the process of contract negotiations. And you know,

606
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: I told John yesterday, I remember one of the things

607
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: that I was curious about was it did was this

608
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: deal strictly because Indianapolis is where you wanted to be

609
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: or was it also because you realized that the market

610
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: maybe was not as hi for Daniel Jones, especially now

611
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray ending up in Minnesota. That happened yesterday.

612
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: But here is Daniel Jones on the process of the

613
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: contract negotiations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always always is that always is a process

615
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 3: and figuring it out, you know, it's not necessarily my job.

616
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: Kind of let my agents and representation handle that. But

617
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: I made it clear early on that I wanted to

618
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: be here, and you know, I wanted to be back here.

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Speaker 3: Wanted them to find a way to figure that out. So,

620
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: you know, I think very appreciative, grateful for everyone involved

621
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Speaker 3: in the process, and certainly grateful to the Colts organization, uh,

622
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: the URSA family and Chris ballout his staff, the coaches here, everybody,

623
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Speaker 3: and thrilled.

624
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Speaker 1: To be back. I mean that kind of answers the

625
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: question of how much he wanted to truly look around, right,

626
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of it. Perhaps maybe some

627
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: of the markets softened for him because of the injury.

628
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: Come off of the Achilles injury and that Achilles tear.

629
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: That does change things a bit in terms of figuring

630
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: out what player the Cults are retaining. We would assume

631
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: that it's going to be the same player and then

632
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: he will come back. I mean, it's funny. It's almost

633
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: like the elephant in the room that we don't talk

634
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: about as you forget that he is coming off that

635
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: injury and the assumption is that he will be available

636
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: and ready to go in week one. But he certainly

637
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: in this town has a fan base that is well

638
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: familiar unfortunately with achilles tears, because that's exactly what happened

639
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: to Tyrese Haliburton. Every Body is different. I realize that

640
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: in terms of repair recovery. In addition to that the movement,

641
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: the strain, the stress on the achilles from one position

642
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: or responsibility to another. But it is a good question.

643
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, did he talk to or has he consulted

644
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: with Tyree's Haliburton about the injury.

645
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked a little bit, you know, talk to

646
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 3: him initially when I was when I was injured, and

647
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: then yeah, through the rehab process a little bit.

648
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Speaker 1: You know.

649
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: I think his his process has been, uh been going well,

650
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: and like you said, he's a little ahead of me,

651
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: so it's helpful to hear someone who's been through uh,

652
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: you know, pretty recently. A lot of the things I'm

653
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: going through now, so we had the same surgeon, and

654
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: and so our process, our rehab, the kind of the

655
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: whole thing that's set up for.

656
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: Us is pretty similar.

657
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: So, uh, you try to learn as much as you

658
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: can from from everybody and and people who've been through it,

659
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: you know, definitely have a helpful perspective.

660
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: The other curveball in all of this curveballs by the

661
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: wrong word. I think that we have a tendency fans media,

662
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: all of us in Indianapolis, we have a tendency to

663
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: forget odd as that sounds that there is another quarterback

664
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Speaker 1: in the equation here. I mean, yes, of course Riley Leonard,

665
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: I get it. But the saga that is Anthony Richardson

666
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: and what with Anthony Richardson the future holds. Last night,

667
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: when I was walking into the Pacer game, I looked

668
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: up in one of the TV monitors and there I

669
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: see Kyler Murray sitting at the podium, and I think

670
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: it's a one year deal with Minnesota if I'm not mistaken,

671
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: And basically that means, okay, it's kind of put up

672
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: or shut up. Does he become Sam Darnold or does

673
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: he become Geno Smith? I don't know. I think Murray's

674
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: a really talented guy. Haven't watched him a lot in Arizona,

675
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: but I saw him in college and he is a

676
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: dynamic playmaker. I mean, there's no doubt about that. He

677
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: has unbelievable ability to extend plays and you know good

678
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: arm and you know lightning bug quickness. But you feel

679
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: for JJ McCarthy because it feels like in that area

680
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: that page has been turned. And the same holds true

681
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson when Daniel Jones was acquired and Daniel

682
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: Jones won that job, and then very shortly thereafter, clearly

683
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: the Colts it were saying, this is our guy, and

684
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: would you like to have a rookie contract talented guy

685
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: who does things differently under center or brings a different

686
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: skill set under center, then you typically see at that position. Sure,

687
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: and to have that as your backup and your emergency

688
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: go to outstanding, let's go sign me up. But as

689
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I always say, there is something to be said about

690
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: how you were acquired dictates and sets the tone for

691
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: the way that you are interpreted or slotted or used.

692
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's the case with Anthony Richardson, because

693
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: if Richardson was not if Anthony Richardson was the exact

694
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: same player with the exact same number of starts under

695
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: his belt, but the Colts had drafted him in the

696
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: fifth round, then probably you're perfectly content saying, yeah, well,

697
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: just keep it. He's a valuable backup and he can

698
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: do some things different and all's well, that ends well.

699
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: But because he was acquired inside the top five, because

700
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: it's what he represents, and what he represents is not

701
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: just the face of what was supposed to be the

702
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: new direction of your franchise, but in addition to that,

703
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: what he represents is a swing and amiss by the

704
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Speaker 1: front office of the Colts.

705
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: And so.

706
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: Do they hold on to that when everyone knows that

707
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: it represents the swing and the miss or is simply

708
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: change of scenery necessary? And if that's the case, we

709
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: haven't heard any rumbling of it at all. So what's

710
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: the market for Anthony Richardson? And if there's no market

711
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: for him, what does that mean for him in terms

712
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: of where he could be slotted in Indianapolis or if

713
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: there's a role or a space for him anywhere? And

714
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones talked about that as well with John which

715
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Speaker 1: way for you to with with Anthony.

716
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Speaker 3: He's a super super good dude, you know, cares about people,

717
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: who treats people the right way. I think, you know,

718
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 3: last year coming in and I was obviously competing with him,

719
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: and we were both you know, trying to play and

720
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: and and wanted to be on the field. And at

721
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: no point was there any you know, we we got

722
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: along grade and supported each other. I felt like he

723
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Speaker 3: was supporting me. It wasn't at all, you know, there

724
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Speaker 3: was there wasn't animosity that it was competitive, and we

725
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: both wanted to wanted to get the spot. But you know,

726
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: it was always fun working working with him, being in

727
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: the room, pushing each other. I've got to you know,

728
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: I uh, you know, really really enjoyed being around Anthony.

729
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 3: I think he's an extremely talented guy and I'm sure

730
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: he'll be successful. I'm looking forward to to, uh watching

731
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Speaker 3: the rest of his career.

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Speaker 1: Now, there is one thing I think that most separates

733
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones from Richardson, and it might have been something

734
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Speaker 1: that showed itself within the first week in Grand Park

735
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Speaker 1: and Westfield. I'll let you hear from that from Daniel

736
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: Jones and get you caught up on what's going on

737
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: in Chicago Big Ten Tournament. Wise, Kevin Bowen coming up

738
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: by the way an hour from now, Kyle Neddrip bottom

739
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: of the hour talking high school sports on this parade

740
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day day? Is the parade over? I'm looking

741
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: out and it looks like traffic's moving. Is the parade over?

742
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: Do we know? Is it just a one hour parade?

743
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: I will figure it all out. Querying company here the

744
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: fan Big Ten Tournament up in Chicago. Michigan leads Ohio

745
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: State at the half thirty nine thirty five. Let me

746
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: ask you this, Eddie, at what point in it, like,

747
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: for example, if you are Michigan, Okay, Michigan's playing their

748
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: first game in the Big ten tournament because they had

749
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: the double buy. Yes, I think we know for certain

750
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: and without question that Michigan is the number one seed

751
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament. Correct, I don't think so. Who

752
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: would you say, are the locks at number one?

753
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 5: Then?

754
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 6: Oh?

755
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: I thought you met like O're all number one?

756
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 5: No?

757
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm sorry a number one seed?

758
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the others, I would say, Arizona, yep,

759
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: that excuse me? That fourth one is up for debate?

760
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: Really is it? Houston? Is it Florida.

761
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: I have Florida's made a pretty strong surge here, right,

762
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: But if you're Michigan, do you need to win a

763
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: tournament game in the Big Ten tournament to hold on

764
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: to that number one? Or is that done? And if

765
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: that's the case, does it really hurt them if they

766
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: drop this game?

767
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: Ill think it hurts them.

768
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: Okay, second question.

769
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: Unless they wont the number one overall seed.

770
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: So Ohio State by beating Iowa and being competitive against

771
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: Michigan here, Now, I mean they may still get blown

772
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: out of this game. We'll see. But if Ohio State

773
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: hangs around and this is a you know, a six

774
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: or eight ten point game, there's Ohio State. Now are

775
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: they safely in the field in your mind?

776
00:46:59,680 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

777
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: I think they're safely in. Yes, they're now twenty one

778
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: and eleven. And if they're safely in, does that mean

779
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: that they have completely replaced Indiana or does Indiana still

780
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: have a chance with attrition elsewhere, of getting in based

781
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: on lack of anybody else taking claim. Let's see.

782
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 2: According to Joe Lenardi, he updated his bracketology.

783
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: I get a guess. Here's a guess. I have not

784
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: looked at many guests that he has Indiana as the

785
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: third listed his team out, Yes, and who is in

786
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: front of them Auburn, who lost last night in their

787
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: conference tournament and Oklahoma Auburn. What are we doing here?

788
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: And I'll play Daniel Jones by the way, and the

789
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen thing here in a second. What what are

790
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: we doing with Auburn?

791
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: Auburn was fourteen and seven. That means they're three and

792
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: nine on the last twelve. Yeah, and I mean she's

793
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: much better for Florida. Okay, I mean Northwestern won at Purdue?

794
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: Are we putting Northwestern in? Northwestern didn't win at Purdue?

795
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: Northwestern? Sorry that they they were four?

796
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry. I was a week ago at Northwestern.

797
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess Indiana doesn't matter because Indiana's not in probably,

798
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: but you get what I'm saying. I mean, okay, I

799
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: mean the Auburn thing to me, I will never understand.

800
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: And I think Auburn's this is just a guess. Auburn

801
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: in a couple of years is going to be in

802
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: a predicament because Bruce Pearl's kid is going to be

803
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: coaching them and they're going to be seventeen and fifteen again.

804
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: And then what do you do? Yeah, right, yeah, Okay,

805
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: So Daniel Jones yesterday his conversation with JMV. I just

806
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: got done talking about Jones and Richardson and that whole

807
00:48:52,719 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: quarterback saga, right, And from the time that Daniel Jones

808
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: was brought in, And this is why, when there was

809
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: discussion about Kyler Murray, I'd never thought that would be

810
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: even I don't think it was. But if if they

811
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: got into a situation, let's just say, for the sake

812
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: of discussion, that Daniel Jones had, let's say he couldn't

813
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: come to terms with the Colts. Let's say his representation said,

814
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: now we need sixty sixty five million a year, you

815
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: know whatever. I'm throwing out a ridiculous number for the

816
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: sake of the point. If Daniel Jones had not been

817
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: able to be re signed here, and let's say Anthony

818
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: Richardson had found a home elsewhere, was Kyler Murray a

819
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: place they would have turned? And I believe that answer

820
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: is no. And I think I illustrated this the the

821
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: other day. But the reason why I don't think and

822
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: why I didn't think it necessarily worked for Richardson here

823
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: and I want to be very clear here, It has

824
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: nothing to do with intellect. It has to do with

825
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: quick process. There are certain quarterbacks. Johnny Manziel comes to

826
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: mind early. Josh Allen comes to mind. Josh Allen's a

827
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: good example of this, Okay. Josh Allen when he was

828
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: in high school was not a big time recruit. Josh

829
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: Allen grew up in a small farming town or rural

830
00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: community in California, dreamed of playing for Fresno State. Tapes

831
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: to Fresno State coaches on the regular, begging and pleading

832
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: for an opportunity to be the Bulldogs quarterback, and Fresno

833
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: State said, we're good. If you want to come walk on,

834
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: that's cool, but we're good. We got quarterbacks. So Josh

835
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Allen went to junior college. And Josh Allen again in

836
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: junior college, after his first year, sent tapes to Fresno

837
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: State and they said, we're good. If you want to

838
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: walk on, that's cool, but we're good. And then in

839
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: his second year of junior college he set national junior

840
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: college passing records and he sent tapes again to Fresno State,

841
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: and Fresno State said, you know what, it looks like,

842
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: you have some potential if you want to come here

843
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: as a preferred walk on you might be able to

844
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: earn a scholarship. But Wyoming said, you want to come

845
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: here and play, We're going to give you a full ride.

846
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: So josh Allen said to Fresno State, you know what,

847
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: somebody else is going to give me a full ride.

848
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to go there. And he went to Wyoming,

849
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: and he threw up huge numbers in Wyoming. And one

850
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: of the things that probably helped him is Laramie, Wyoming

851
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: is a day. Every day is like it is out

852
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: here today. It's windy as heck, and Josh Allen was

853
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: forced to learn to throw in the wind, and for

854
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: a while it interfered with his throwing motion and his

855
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: throwing pattern. But he had become so reliant on his athleticism.

856
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: He was so able to just tuck and run and

857
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: extend plays with when all hell was breaking loose, just

858
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: getting the heck out of dodge because he was an

859
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: elite level throwing athlete. And then when he got to

860
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: larry Meye, Wyoming and the wind was there and everything else,

861
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: it forced him to basically have to make adjustments to

862
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: his motion of throw because you had to have more

863
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: control and more strategy and the way you were throwing

864
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: the football, and it took a while because his athleticism

865
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: allowed him to extend plays and then hit guys that

866
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: were open once plays broke down, which allowed for this

867
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: huge passing record, but his accuracy was a huge question mark,

868
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: and the conditions and the elements forced him to basically

869
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: have to sit back in the lab and relearn accuracy.

870
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: But he never had to know that stuff initially because

871
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: he was so darn athletic and naturally gifted. In Johnny

872
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: Manziel when he was at Texas A and M and

873
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: he got to the NFL and fell flat on his

874
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: face because there's the famous video of Johnny Manziel looking

875
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: at the iPad and hitting himself in the forehead with it.

876
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Because Johnny Manzel could fall out of bed and instantly

877
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: solve a long division problem. But when it got to

878
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: the point where he had to then not only recognize

879
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: but solve trigonometry, he was screwed. And you get that.

880
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: You get that with a lot of players that have

881
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where they are in the NFL

882
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: with just natural god given ability of being ahead of

883
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: what needs to be done, and a Daniel Jones. While

884
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: he does have wheels, he can run, there is no question.

885
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: But Jones's running was done as an accentuation to his

886
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: stand in the pocket passing ability. And I don't know

887
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: that he necessarily is able to process and recognize at

888
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: the quick computer level of a Philip Rivers or a

889
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, But the ability to mix in the run

890
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: with the throw, and being able to look over a

891
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: defense to find out which one was going to be

892
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: the more conducive in that situation, those things appear to

893
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: have benefited Daniel Jones in terms of the symbiotic nature

894
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: of what Shane Steichen's offense repor because Shane Steichen's offense

895
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: represents coming over, looking over, quick process, NonStop boom boom boom,

896
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: and Jones has been conditioned for that kind of a

897
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: computer esque quarterback, whereas an Anthony Richardson or a Josh

898
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: Allen earlier in his career, they have been so reliant

899
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: upon just basically being able to free wheel it because

900
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: they are so athletic. But the NFL, the windows are

901
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: just shorter. So Jones did talk about the fact with

902
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: John yesterday. Daniel Jones on the fact of just basically

903
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: having the same mindset when it comes to know and ball,

904
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: like Shane Steiken.

905
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

906
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: I think we both it's very, very very important to

907
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: both of us. And you know, I think you like

908
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: being around guys like that. I think we have a

909
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: lot of guys here who coaches players, you know, a

910
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: lot of guys who who have that same level of

911
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: intensity and.

912
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: You know, love for it, you know.

913
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 3: And I think when you're around a lot of people

914
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: like that, you work well together, and you know, you're

915
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: constantly constantly working on things because it's what you what

916
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: you want to do and kind of how you structure

917
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: your your days, how you structure everything. So it's been

918
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: fun working with Shane. I'm not sure I met anybody

919
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: who loves football as much as much as Shane. He's

920
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 3: always always thinking about it, always working on it, and

921
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: it's fun to be around that.

922
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: That's the thing that you could tell from the beginning

923
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: when they arrived at Grand Park and we initially were like, hey,

924
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is being brought in to compete with Anthony

925
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: Richardson and lift up Richardson. I think it was pretty

926
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: clear from the get go that and when it came

927
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: down to it, And it's interesting because I said, and

928
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: I will admit when I'm wrong, I was wrong once

929
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight, and then there was one other time.

930
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: I can't remember where I was wrong, but I was wrong.

931
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: On this when you said Indiana was going to go

932
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: into the Big House in upset Michigan.

933
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: Oh No, I was right there because I said first

934
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: quarter they were going to put a scare in them,

935
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: and they did. They were up seven nothing at one point,

936
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: So I was right about that. I also, Eddie what

937
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: I've and I when I was set there and I

938
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: rubbed my temples to see the future when I said

939
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: that about Indiana going into Michigan, and that particular what

940
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: in my mic clipped off that day. But what I

941
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: said was Indiana's going to go in and win the

942
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: first quarter against Michigan and then dominate them in a

943
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: couple of years when they become national champions. That that's

944
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: that's what I meant to say. Although they didn't play

945
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: Michigan this year, did they?

946
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: No?

947
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: They did, uh, And you're one of Kurt Signetti, right,

948
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: and they beat him, right, they dominated him, They didn't dominate.

949
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 6: They got that.

950
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: About to say, if that game is another quarter they

951
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: probably lose.

952
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: That's probably right. But yeah, either way, I was wrong

953
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: about this when I said that I thought Anthony Richardson

954
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: was still going to be the starter despite Daniel Jones

955
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: coming in and as time went on in Grand Park.

956
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: The one thing if you look back on it is

957
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: you can say, if we went back and pulled the

958
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: audio and the timeline of what everyone was saying over

959
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: the course of that quarterback battle and amusing battle in

960
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: air quotes, one thing about that that you can say

961
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: is we kept saying, you know, Daniel Jones may have

962
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: a chance here, not because he's done anything to separate

963
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: himself from Anthony Richardson, but more specifically because Anthony Richardson

964
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: has not done anything to separate himself from Daniel Jones.

965
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: And that's why Jones was brought in to push Anthony Richardson.

966
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: And if that doesn't jumpstart Richardson, then maybe, just maybe,

967
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: maybe just maybe, you know, the guy is here, right

968
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: in Jones. And when it came out that in fact,

969
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was the guy, I think it's we can

970
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: safely say it's because Shane Stiken just from the get

971
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: go felt like, okay, this is an extension of me

972
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: out on the field, and I just have that kind

973
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: of telepathic thing. Ohio State and Michigan are tied, by

974
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: the way in the second half, so the Buckeyes, I

975
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: think now safely, and let's take a look at the

976
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: and if you're just joining us on the program, Eddie

977
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: early referred to it as the tournament, not the tournament,

978
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: but the tournament. And we were discussing whether or not

979
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: it's the NCAA or the n C two A tournament.

980
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: Eddie's in the He's not aware that I'm talking about

981
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: her right now because he's in a fishbowl and people

982
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: keep coming in and talking to him. Who is the

983
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 1: latest visitor over there, Eddie.

984
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: That would be J and V.

985
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I think I see him walking around here.

986
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: JMV is getting ready to take off right to get

987
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: ready for his big show on the road.

988
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: I know, were you talking about me?

989
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh?

990
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: Good or bad?

991
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: You'll never know.

992
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: I can just go back and listen to the tape.

993
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you could listen live. Okay, here we go.

994
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 2: Are we talking about tournaments again?

995
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, yeah, Eddie refers to it as a tournament. Now.

996
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: The bracketology we mentioned it earlier, the latest one, and

997
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: I listen, it seems foolish to sit here and rely

998
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: on a mock bracketology. There is only one bracket that matters,

999
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: and it's that that comes out with the NCAA selection committee.

1000
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, Lenardi is he has it. I mean,

1001
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: his seating usually it's pretty darn close. But in terms

1002
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: of the understanding of what the selection committee is looking

1003
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: for and where teams slot in terms of their resume,

1004
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: he's pretty dialed in. And right now, the last four

1005
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: that he has in Virginia Commonwealth, they are twenty four

1006
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: and seven, and I believe they won the Atlantic ten

1007
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: either turn regular season correct. Yeah, that alone, that should

1008
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: have you safely In Missouri twenty and twelve, seventh in

1009
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: the SEC SMU. Now this one's interesting to me. Twenty

1010
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: and thirteen and eleventh in the ACC and they have lost.

1011
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: They literally if you look at their last month, it's

1012
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: been a disaster. Lost at Cal lost at Stanford, lost

1013
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: to Miami, lost at Florida State, beat Syracuse, lost at Louisville.

1014
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: And it goes back to that conversation that we've been

1015
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: having for the last week. Jake, like all these teams

1016
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: on the bubble have been losing for the last two weeks.

1017
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: And it used to be and maybe maybe we just

1018
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: bragged on this because I grew up a fan of

1019
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: Indiana and Bob Knight's team has always got better or

1020
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: as the year went on. But it used to be

1021
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: one of the selling points or one of the things

1022
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: that we were led to believe that the NCAA Selection

1023
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: Committee paid attention to was basically how they're playing of late,

1024
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: like the last month. What kind of basketball are you

1025
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: playing at the end of the year when it matters

1026
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: most Texas is listed as the last team in eighteen

1027
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: and fourteen and tenth in the SEC, the first four out,

1028
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: the Sooners of Oklahoma nineteen and fourteen, eleventh in the SEC,

1029
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: Auburn seventeen and sixteen tied for eleventh in the SEC.

1030
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: What the hell, let's bring the whole SEC in why not?

1031
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: And then Indiana. The problem is these teams that are

1032
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: listed as last four in and first four out, many

1033
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: of them their season is also complete. So it's not

1034
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: like they and you know what I mean, like everybody's

1035
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: in a holding pattern and teams can't demerit themselves any

1036
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: further To help Indiana.

1037
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: Like VCU, for example, they haven't played yet in their

1038
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: conference tournament, so like if they if they lose early,

1039
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: are they a team that gets out of the field.

1040
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: Well then, but they won the right they're the number

1041
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: one seed in the A ten, right, you would have

1042
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: to think they absolutely are in.

1043
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: They were tied with Saint Louis, Okay, who just extended

1044
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: Joss shirts earlier today.

1045
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: If if VCU were to lose Eddie, I mean, then

1046
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: a bid steeler comes into play. It would assume, because

1047
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm assuming what Lenardi is saying right there is VCU

1048
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: would be still in even if they don't win the

1049
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: A ten tournament because they had such a good year

1050
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: and with the top ranked team in the A ten

1051
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: over the course of the year. So if somebody sneaks

1052
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: in and if Rhode Island comes out of nowhere and

1053
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: wins the A ten tournament of fighting Archie Millers, that's right,

1054
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: then then do you have a bid stealer in Rhode Island?

1055
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: Because do they keep VCU in. Nonetheless, Josh Shurtz, by

1056
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: the way, yesterday had sent a post with a pair

1057
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: of raising eyeballs and everybody's like, wha wait a minute.

1058
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: What's this means? Somebody threw them a bag as the

1059
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: kids say, but that apparently was Saint Louis right. Yes.

1060
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, who do you think VCU is

1061
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: playing today?

1062
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: Do you know? In the Atlantic ten tournament? Yeah? I

1063
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 1: love these kind of guessing games, so let me guess. Okay, okay,

1064
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: and I do get a little confused sometimes because of

1065
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: conference realignment as to where some of these teams are.

1066
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: But is there any let me ask you this, Eddie,

1067
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: is there any sort of tie in to this radio show,

1068
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 1: to this team?

1069
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 7: No?

1070
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: Ducaine do Quesney?

1071
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 6: Yes?

1072
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: Is it really? Yes? Look at the big brain out jact. Okay,

1073
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, who began their college career at

1074
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: du Quesney? T J.

1075
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: McConnell.

1076
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: That would be correct. They're in Pittsburgh, right right.

1077
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: I believe that would make a lot of sense for

1078
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: him being a Pittsburgh guy.

1079
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: So Ducaine is who opens up with I like VCU.

1080
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: You have been on VCU's campus, I have not kind

1081
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: of reminds me of aund but I like VCU. I've

1082
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: always kind of liked him. I like them. When Shaka

1083
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: Smart was there and they had that tournament where it's

1084
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: like They're beating everyone by thirty five points. They blew

1085
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: Kansas out of the building.

1086
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pittsburgh, PA, and.

1087
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: Then played Butler. When is that. I've always thought the

1088
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: A ten Tournament would be a fun tournament to go

1089
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: to because I think the A ten is an underrated league.

1090
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a well coach league, and I've always

1091
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: thought they have good teams. Where is it in Philadelphia,

1092
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: the A ten Tournament?

1093
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: It is in the pp G Paints Arena. That sounds

1094
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It's a home game for

1095
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: the Duquesny it is.

1096
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: It is right, huge disadvantage for VC that has to

1097
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: be factored in when it comes to the bubble.

1098
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's like Northwestern in the Big ten tournament

1099
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: here in Chicago.

1100
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: Do you know the Northwestern poster of the first ever

1101
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament and then was not invited for like seventy years.

1102
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that's so rude.

1103
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were nice enough to have everybody

1104
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: over to their party, and everybody showed up and crashed it.

1105
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: And that first year Oregon got drunk and you know,

1106
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: broke stuff. And then the next year Indiana did the

1107
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: same thing. And Northwestern sat there the whole time, like

1108
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: when are we getting invited back? And they're like yeah, okay.

1109
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: Lenardi has Miami of Ohio in the last four byes category. Okay,

1110
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 2: so he didn't even have been playing in Dayton. He's

1111
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: the last They are the last team are the red Hawks.

1112
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 2: So they are team whatever? Sixty three of sixty eight

1113
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: are there actually red hawks?

1114
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: Do we know? Do we know? I think that I

1115
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: think of hawks as either being but I guess a

1116
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: black hawk is like a falcon, right? But then I

1117
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 1: think of hawks as more of like a lighter brown tent.

1118
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: Wouldn't a red hawk just be an overgrown, deroid, mongered

1119
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: cardinal like was is Mark maguire? Technically a red hawk?

1120
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: It is a red tailed hawk, and it is the

1121
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: most common hawks in North America, known for its striking

1122
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,439
Speaker 2: reddish brown tail. Really, and yes, what about the rest

1123
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: of the to various habitats including deserts, grasslands, and urban.

1124
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: What about the rest of the body though? Does it

1125
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: have a full does it have a full body picture?

1126
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: Because if it's just a red tailed hawks, shouldn't they

1127
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: be called the red tailed hawks instead of the red hawks?

1128
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 5: I know?

1129
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: This is all because they changed away. They were formerly

1130
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: the when I was in college, the Miami Redskins. I

1131
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: get it, But shouldn't they be the red tailed hawks

1132
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: the Artie hawks. Wouldn't that be more applicable? I think

1133
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: of them as having more of like the a light

1134
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: brown and white color, like when you look up and

1135
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: that you're like, wow, look at the bird up there.

1136
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: It's a huge hawk, right, ginger hawks? Do we not

1137
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: call them the ginger hawks? No? Should we not go

1138
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: with like I guess? Can we say firecrotch on the radio?

1139
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 3: Is that?

1140
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: Well you just did? Sokay? Kyle Nednarep mercifully joins us.

1141
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: Next talks a little IHSA regional action and I we

1142
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: have some tickets to give away, do we not? We do?

1143
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: Indeed, Jake query.

1144
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: And those tickets would be and you would like to

1145
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: do so in what fashion?

1146
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: On the text line? What number is the question? Two

1147
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: seventy I knew that, okay, okay?

1148
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: So this is three one seven two nine ten seventy

1149
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: three one seven two nine one zero seven zero. The

1150
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: tickets that we have to give away are for what event?

1151
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: Eric Clapton with special guest Jimmy Vaughan, Tuesday, September eighth,

1152
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 2: that Heritage Bank Center in Cincinnata. Nice.

1153
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: So we have tickets to give away for Clapton, but

1154
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to drive to Cincinnati. Correct?

1155
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who wouldn't want to go to Cincinnati and who

1156
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to see Clapton, especially in September?

1157
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: Are you right? Have you been to that is a

1158
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: jungle gyms? Is that what it's called? The big grocery

1159
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: store down there?

1160
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 4: That?

1161
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: Butody, Yeah, he's about I haven't been there though. Okay,

1162
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: so Cincinnati, of course you would have to drive down

1163
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: seventy four. I'm not gonna say text number seventy four,

1164
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: but how about number seven for the beginning of that.

1165
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm seventh person to text you, but they have to

1166
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. They have to text you the title

1167
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: of an Eric Clapton song and that does not include

1168
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: Derek and the Dominoes, just a straight Eric Clapton solo song.

1169
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

1170
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: The seventh to do so will be on their way

1171
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: joining us now on the Java House Colebrew Coffee guest line.

1172
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: He is with the Indianapolis Star Regionals are upon us.

1173
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Neddrip joining the show. Kyle, how are you Hey,

1174
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: doing well. How are you, Jake? I'm all right, actually,

1175
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, I'm gonna really

1176
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: good mood. I'm a little concerned about speaking of Java House,

1177
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: Java House, Grand Prix of Arlington. This is an IndyCar

1178
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: race in the suburban Dallas area. Kyle kurkod going to

1179
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: join us about an hour from now. But it's really

1180
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: windy out and I think it's going to be a

1181
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: little bumpy getting up in the air. Would that concern you?

1182
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: Are you a nervous flyer?

1183
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 6: I am not not really. I guess you have had

1184
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 6: a few experiences that have been you know, don't enjoy

1185
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 6: the turbulence necessarily. But yeah, normally I'm pretty pretty good

1186
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 6: to go once I once I get in the airplane.

1187
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of them where you're like, whall,

1188
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: wait a minute. I always look at the flight attendants.

1189
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: If the flight attendants start getting nervous or buckle in,

1190
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, we might be in for

1191
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: a problem here. But okay. Some teams have had perhaps

1192
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: turbulent seasons, but yet they find themselves at cruising altitude

1193
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: now in the regionals. And I want to begin with

1194
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: Lawrence Central, who takes on Eddie's alma mater, Decater Central

1195
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: in Southport and the for A regionals. When I look

1196
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 1: at LC and I see that they're fourteen and eleven,

1197
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: I kind of then I jump out and I say,

1198
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: is this a team that righted the ship at the

1199
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: right time? Or is fourteen and eleven simply indicative of

1200
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: a grueling schedule that is now paying itself off.

1201
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's partly partly that for sure. I

1202
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 6: mean they played, they played a difficult schedule in the mick,

1203
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 6: you know, they they in the county. I did see him,

1204
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 6: you know, I covered the the quarterfinal game in the

1205
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 6: county and they played Ben Davis and beat them, and

1206
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 6: I was really impressed within that night. And then they

1207
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 6: came back in the semi final at Southport and Pike

1208
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 6: just picked him apart Limb from Limb. It was a

1209
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 6: thirty point game. You know, did not perform very well

1210
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 6: in that game. But you know, in the back of

1211
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 6: my mind I knew going into the sectional. You know,

1212
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 6: they if they got to play Lawrence North in the championship.

1213
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 6: You know, that's a rivalry game. That's a team they

1214
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 6: played early in the year. And I covered that game too.

1215
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 6: They only lost by two, and it was up and

1216
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 6: down and they were right there at the end of

1217
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 6: the game. And I think too, when you look at

1218
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 6: teams this time of year, you know, you look at

1219
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 6: point guards, and they have a good one. And Deron Harris,

1220
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 6: who is a senior, He's been through a lot of

1221
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 6: these tough games, you know, so he's got you know,

1222
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 6: he's got that moxie about him. He knows what it takes.

1223
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 6: And then so they go out and be Lawrence North

1224
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 6: in the championship game of the sectional. And you know,

1225
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 6: they got a big performance from Jeremiah Bellamy that game,

1226
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 6: who's a talented player. They have a shooter Caleb Williams.

1227
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 6: They have a good player in Gavin Petty. You know,

1228
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 6: they have a lot of pieces of a team that

1229
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 6: you would expect to be here this time of year. Now, now,

1230
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 6: like you mentioned, they don't have the record of a

1231
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 6: team you would expect to be here this time of year.

1232
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 6: They're only fourteen and eleven. But you know, I think,

1233
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 6: you know, based on who they play in the county,

1234
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 6: you know, there's just a lot of you know, losses

1235
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 6: on there that are understandable. But they just haven't put

1236
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 6: it all together until now, so you know, you get

1237
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 6: it together at the right time. They'd beat a Warren

1238
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 6: Central team in the semi final that had beaten Carmel

1239
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 6: the week before, so they were that's a good win.

1240
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 6: So now you get into this game on Saturday, and

1241
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 6: you know, I know it's not the marquee game of

1242
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 6: the day at Southport, but I think it's going to

1243
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 6: be just as interesting against the Cator Central team. That's

1244
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 6: one more games than they have in the history of

1245
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 6: their program, So that will be a fun game. I

1246
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,879
Speaker 6: can't wait to see both those games. Actually on Saturday.

1247
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: One would assume that Pike at twenty three and three,

1248
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: and I know, you know, Jeff Teeks done a great

1249
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: job with that team this year. You just referenced them

1250
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: that that puts Pike kind of is the favorite in

1251
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: for it. But then I look at Carmel and I go,

1252
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: if you beat Fishers and end that streak, then you know,

1253
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: let's be real here. Obviously Carmel is one to contend with.

1254
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: Let's start with that. What did Carmel do against Fishers

1255
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: that allowed them that upset?

1256
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 6: Well, they hung in there when they're they're starting point

1257
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 6: guard had to leave the game, you know, because as

1258
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 6: he came off the bench, you know Cash Daniels, you know,

1259
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 6: there's a little skirmish there second quarter. Cash Daniels came

1260
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 6: off the bench and he ended up getting ejected for that,

1261
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 6: and that's just the rule. You know, he didn't do

1262
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 6: anything malicious, but he came off the bench and you

1263
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 6: know you can't do that, so so he went out.

1264
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 6: And then you know, Carmel's a veteran team. You know

1265
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 6: Ben Bremer, you know he'd played point guard before. You know,

1266
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 6: he's a guy who can handle the pressure in a

1267
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 6: big game. And and you know Evan Harrold played a

1268
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 6: great game for him too. They just have a lot

1269
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 6: of veteran pieces, you know, Julian Vote. They didn't allow

1270
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 6: themselves to get sped up and turn the ball over.

1271
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 6: And you know, if you go back and watch that game,

1272
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 6: I probably watched it three times, you know, just to

1273
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 6: just to get a handle on, you know, everything that

1274
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 6: happened in that game. But but it was, you know,

1275
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 6: it was just a big time game. You know, they

1276
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 6: they really played well defensively. I joked with Ryan Osborne,

1277
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 6: I said it was at the end of the game

1278
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 6: there they scored to go ahead with you know, Bremer

1279
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 6: hit that big three. I think there's twenty six seconds

1280
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 6: left and then it was almost like first and goal,

1281
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 6: second goal, third and go fourth and goal because Fisher's

1282
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 6: had about four chances there to on different plays out

1283
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 6: of bounced plays coming out of timeouts, and it just

1284
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 6: felt like they you know, they had to hold the

1285
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 6: fourth there, and they did and McGrew had a good,

1286
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 6: pretty good look there with as the in the final second,

1287
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 6: but just to just missed it by a little bit. So, uh,

1288
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 6: you're able to survive.

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 5: Man.

1290
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 6: You know that it's a cliche, but man, that game

1291
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 6: could have gone either way. You know, there's so many

1292
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 6: different things that happened, and Carmel came out of it,

1293
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 6: you know, the victory with the victory. But but yeah,

1294
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,799
Speaker 6: I mean they I don't know if they're the favorite,

1295
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 6: but they are definitely in the in the you know,

1296
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 6: in the North. You know, that's that's gonna be interesting

1297
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 6: because I think they should win this week, but then

1298
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 6: next week, you know that'll be loaded up with you

1299
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 6: get a crown point and then the winner of North

1300
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 6: Age and South Bend Saint Joe I think is really

1301
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 6: going to be a factor as well. And then the

1302
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 6: other team is probably going to be Homestead. It would

1303
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 6: be their homestead or Harrison probably the underdog there. But uh,

1304
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 6: but yeah, it's going to be a North for a

1305
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 6: will be really interesting next week if it goes like

1306
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 6: we think it might.

1307
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: The job that Jeff Tigue has done at Pike, you know,

1308
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: Pike has always had a ton of talent that has

1309
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: come through there. Is this a matter of him simply

1310
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: messing that talent or is he getting more out of

1311
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: what you anticipated at twenty three and three.

1312
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 6: No, I think he's getting more out of him than

1313
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 6: than you know early in the year, for sure. And

1314
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 6: I talked to Jeff after the game on Saturday, and

1315
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 6: you know, he's he's. I did said, yeah, I've got

1316
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 6: a lot to learn as a coach, you know I

1317
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 6: And I think he is learning on the on the job,

1318
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 6: and he's he's learning from his staff. He's you know,

1319
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 6: he's uh. And I really I like his demeanor. I

1320
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 6: think he's a little bit more uh. He's a pretty

1321
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 6: laid back coach is demeanor wise. But but I think

1322
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 6: the to me and I'm just I've covered a lot

1323
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 6: of Pike games this year, I sensed a little bit

1324
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 6: of a change that Fisher's game when they you know,

1325
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 6: for three quarters, Fishers kind of took it to him.

1326
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 6: The fourth quarter Pike played really well well and came back,

1327
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 6: made a run, got back in the game. And ever

1328
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 6: since then, I think there's a little bit more fire,

1329
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 6: more urgency to Pike's team, and and and ever since then,

1330
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 6: they have won a ton of close games against really

1331
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 6: good teams. You know, you go back and look at

1332
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 6: you know, they lost in the county Championship to l N.

1333
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 6: But other than that, you know, they have you know,

1334
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 6: they beat Carmel, they beat a lot of really Plainfield,

1335
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 6: you know, the sectional semi final, they're down fifteen in

1336
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 6: the early and the third and they have to come

1337
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 6: back and win in front of a standing room only

1338
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 6: crowd at Plainfield, which was just an awesome environment. And

1339
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 6: you know, so I think that kind of speaks to

1340
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 6: their mental toughness and their ability to just to kind

1341
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 6: of dig in and do what's necessary. And you know,

1342
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 6: people talked about their talent, and they're not wrong. You know,

1343
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 6: they do have a lot of talent, but the talented,

1344
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 6: most talented teams a lot of times are sitting home.

1345
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 6: You know about now, you know, it doesn't that doesn't

1346
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 6: always matter. You have to you have to perform and

1347
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 6: play together as a unit, and I feel like Pike

1348
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 6: is done that. And you know, it's also been the

1349
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 6: progression of you know, players like Landon Lampley, who's a

1350
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 6: sophomore in my opinion, you know, he's one of the

1351
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 6: best players in the state, regardless of class, and he's

1352
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 6: he's had a great season. You know, Jari Miller and

1353
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 6: Isaiah Hill. I think people knew about those guys, but

1354
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 6: then bringing along the other pieces like Ian Macon who's

1355
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 6: had a great year for him, a super underrated player. TJ. Davis,

1356
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 6: you know, has been super important to that teams. Kenneth

1357
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 6: Lampley had a great Sectional championship game. So it's just

1358
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 6: been a lot of different players in that. You know,

1359
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 6: on that Fike team there they go about ten deep,

1360
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 6: and you know it could be any one of them

1361
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 6: having a big game. So yeah, I think he's done

1362
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 6: a great job. I mean, honestly, you got you have

1363
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 6: Marion County Coach of the Year, and I think it

1364
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 6: was well deserved. I feel like that team is much

1365
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 6: better now and they were really good at the start,

1366
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 6: but I just feel like they're a tougher just a

1367
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 6: tougher team now than they were earlier.

1368
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: Kyle ned Rep is my guest from the Indianapolis Star

1369
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: covers high school athletic for the Star. He's on the

1370
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 1: Java House Colebrew Coffee guests. Like, all right, Kyle, mister

1371
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: basketball front runner right now as we head down the

1372
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: home stretch is who.

1373
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 6: Definitely Luke Girdle And that's the that's the the the

1374
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 6: challenge for Pike. And Jeff Tigue did say, you know,

1375
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 6: after the game, he's like, we get we're playing against

1376
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 6: the best player in the state on Saturday, and he

1377
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 6: met Luke Gurtle and and Lucas. You know, he'll he'll

1378
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 6: have something for Pike. I'm sure it'll be It'll be

1379
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 6: really fun to see kind of how he goes about

1380
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 6: attacking Pike and and what Pike throws at him. But uh,

1381
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 6: but yeah, he's just been so good all year. In

1382
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 6: the first game they played each other, he had a

1383
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 6: great game, and that game was awesome. It was eighty

1384
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 6: forty one. Pike won in overtime, and you know, mal

1385
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 6: Vernon made about everything that night. So we'll see how

1386
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 6: this one goes. But yeah, I think Luke is and

1387
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 6: I will say, you know, the Kenby Shaw from Crown Point,

1388
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 6: his team is still playing, he is his his efficiency

1389
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 6: numbers are off the charts. Noah Smith from Plainfield, Hey

1390
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 6: on if they would to beat Pike in the you know,

1391
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 6: in that semi final, who knows, they may be still

1392
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 6: playing now too. But uh, he had a great year

1393
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 6: as well. But I really I feel like Luke is uh,

1394
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 6: you know, kind of put himself in a good position.

1395
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: He's a Purdue comment Am I correcting that?

1396
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's a Purdue commit and you know, the

1397
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 6: point guard of the future for the boiler Makers.

1398
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: Okay, last question for you the other side of it,

1399
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: miss basketball frontrunners for that. It was actually announced this

1400
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: morning this morning. Okay, yeah, great, and ever had the

1401
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: breaking news sounder if you could there you go announced

1402
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: this morning, but we're calling a breaking news go ahead, Kyle. Yeah.

1403
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 6: Grayson Gilliard from Crown Point on on the we It

1404
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 6: was about probably ten thirty or eleven this morning.

1405
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 3: Uh.

1406
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 6: But yeah, she voted by the media and the coaches,

1407
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 6: and very well deserved they were. She was undefeated this

1408
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 6: year with Center Grove State champion in class four A

1409
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 6: and and had great numbers as well. So yeah, one

1410
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,799
Speaker 6: of those kids who you know, just kind of refused

1411
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 6: to lose all year and going to Davidson to play

1412
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 6: college basketball. So a big honor for her and for

1413
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 6: her Center Girl program.

1414
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: You will beware tonight.

1415
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 6: I will be at home because we have no bore.

1416
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you'll be covering which game? Sorry about that.

1417
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 6: I'll be at south Ford tomorrow center up.

1418
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: Sorry.

1419
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, the games we talked about mault Vernon Pike and

1420
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 6: LC Indicator, so be two, four o'clock and seven o'clock.

1421
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: I forget that by the time we get the regionals.

1422
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: Then you get into those games right where. It's the

1423
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: weekend affair for Kyle Netrip. Kyle, appreciate the time as

1424
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 1: always and probably talk to you again next weekend.

1425
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 6: Absolutely appreciate you, guys.

1426
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: H Kyle Nedrip joining us from the Indianapolis Star on

1427
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line. All right, we'll

1428
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: come back. We'll reset. Kevin Bowen joining us fifteen from

1429
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: now and Kyle Kirkwood from down in Texas at about

1430
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: forty five. Now here's a question for you. I get

1431
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: this regarding the Eric Clapton tickets, right, hey, Jake, I

1432
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: spent fifteen hundred dollars on Clapton tickets and hotel rooms

1433
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and right before he went on stage,

1434
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: my wife had a panic attack and we had to leave.

1435
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: I can't stand it with the panic attack. I mean,

1436
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make light of that. I certainly

1437
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: hope his wife is okay, But wouldn't that give you

1438
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: a panic attack? Fifteen hundred bucks for Clapton tickets? And

1439
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: did we give them away? Eddie already h yeah we did.

1440
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: And that was who to Steve and Kenny? What song

1441
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: did they go with?

1442
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: Kenny went with White Room Wow? And Steve went with

1443
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: Wonderful tonight nice fair enough?

1444
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: Did you remember? Do they still make Kenny's shoes?

1445
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: No? You should don't know. I'm not familiar with Kenny shoes.

1446
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: One of the was that Tom McCann had, I think

1447
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: is the one that had Stadia who had Kenny John?

1448
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: This is this is right up, Jay and v Sally?

1449
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: What what shoe brand maker? Whatever was it that had

1450
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: Kenny shoe? Was it just was Kenny strictly Kenny? Is

1451
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: it their own brand? Was our Kenny store? Because I

1452
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: remember stride Right had zips. Might have been stride Right

1453
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: that had the stadia, but Kenny was kind of like

1454
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: an off brand shoe. I don't know if they still

1455
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: make him or not. By the way, five minutes remaining

1456
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: Big Ten Tournament, Ohio State leads Michigan. Now, other than

1457
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: losing to your rival, if you're Michigan, does it do

1458
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: anything to you at all if you lose this game,

1459
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: other than not being able to say you're the Big

1460
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: Ten Tournament champions?

1461
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 2: Wonder what it would do for the seed line.

1462
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: I think they're in as a one, don't you.

1463
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: I would I want to anticipate that, But like, are

1464
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: you the fourth number one overall seed and get shipped

1465
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: off to somewhere else?

1466
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think here, So the number ones you've got,

1467
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, as of right now, Michigan's clearly won, right,

1468
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: Duke right, Duke yep, Arizona Arizona, Yes? And then who

1469
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: who's slotted so forth?

1470
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 2: It would it be so right?

1471
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: That's right? Florida, Yeah, I mean the way Florida's You've

1472
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: heard me say it a billion times. Florida every year?

1473
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: Is that team? Every year? I said it the other day.

1474
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: I did the trivia on it every year. It's like, wait,

1475
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Florida's there, what again? I just want Florida to play

1476
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: in an NCAA tournament game against a sixteen who's who's

1477
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: going to be a sixteen seed? There was the one school,

1478
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 1: who's the new school that just got in, and you

1479
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: would when you hear it, you would think Queen raadd elsewhere,

1480
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's not Queens New York. It's Queens out

1481
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: of you know, Charlotte's known as the Queen city, so

1482
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,839
Speaker 1: to a Cincinnati, but I think they're in North Carolina.

1483
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: I want Queens to play Florida because I want Florida

1484
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: to get up forty. So they put in the seven

1485
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: foot eleven guy, that's it. That would be I want

1486
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: one shotting moment, to have at least one shot of

1487
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: the seven foot eleven guy.

1488
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: Michigan. By the way, Jake hasn't made a shot in

1489
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: like five minutes. And earlier we were talking about just

1490
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: like bubble teams and in general, I mentioned that I

1491
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 2: like Wisconsin as a potential, you know, sleeper in the tournament.

1492
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: The thing that I have against Duke applies to Michigan

1493
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 2: because the Blue Devils are dealing with injuries at the

1494
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: card position, and even prior to losing their point guard,

1495
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like they had the dynamic guard play

1496
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: enough to make, you know, like a championship run. They

1497
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: may get there, but they not win. Same thing with Michigan.

1498
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: They don't really have a dynamic guard.

1499
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: They are very reliant on their bigs, no doubt. Yes,

1500
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: they we saw it against Indiana. I mean they can shoot,

1501
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I mean they can if

1502
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: they get going, they can shoot from the outside. So

1503
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: two can their bigs, I'm saying. But yeah, you know,

1504
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: the thing that will be fascinating this year's NCAA Tournament.

1505
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a really good one because

1506
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,560
Speaker 1: it does feel like it's ten to fifteen d You

1507
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: know the years that Connecticut won it with Danny Hurley,

1508
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: the back to backs, especially the second year, I mean,

1509
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: they were a machine. You can't when Purdue got to

1510
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: the final game and lost to Connecticut, you're like, yeah,

1511
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean I get that that team was playing at

1512
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: as high a level as anybody we've seen in a

1513
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: long time.

1514
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the year before, were they like an eight seed

1515
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: or something.

1516
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: They were just a buzz saw right, Yeah, Kevin Bowen,

1517
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 1: a lot to catch up on with the Colts, because

1518
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: it's been a flurry of week, but it's kind of

1519
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: calmed down a little bit. And now that the carousel

1520
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 1: has stopped and nobody puked, we'll find out exactly where

1521
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: things stand for the Colts roster dex. Kevin Bowen, you here,

1522
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: not just right there, but also each and every morning

1523
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: from seven until ten o'clock on the Fan Morning Show

1524
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: along with James Boyd and Jeff Rickard. He joins us,

1525
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: and I know it's the highlight of his week.

1526
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: And Mark Dyton, don't forget about that person, Jay, come

1527
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 2: on now.

1528
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: Sure you know I ran into Dyton's entire family down

1529
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: at the garage, not literally like a garage, but the

1530
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: garage and bottleworks a couple of weeks ago, and talking

1531
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: to Dyton's dad immediately it made sense because his dad

1532
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 1: was like, super witty, super funny dude. So too is

1533
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton. But Kevin joins us now on the Java

1534
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: House Colebrew Coffee guest line, and Kevin a flurry of

1535
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: activity when it came to free agency in the NFL,

1536
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know, you know, it kind of I

1537
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: felt like there was this surge of expectation that the

1538
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: Colts would have some big splash and they took Canada

1539
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,560
Speaker 1: their own. I mean, Chris Ballard has always stressed that

1540
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce. But the question I

1541
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: will ask to begin is this, are they better, worse,

1542
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: or basically the same team as they were on paper

1543
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: three months ago?

1544
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 8: By the way, the garage is a great spot. It is,

1545
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 8: and it is great of the garage. They are as

1546
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 8: of Friday at two of four, I think undoubtedly they're

1547
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 8: a worse team than they were. I can't recall really

1548
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 8: being and if you want to call Monday to start

1549
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 8: a free agency being five days into free agency in

1550
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 8: the Ballad era, and are remembering a time where there's

1551
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 8: been this many subtractions with so little additions. Now the

1552
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 8: addition's part is pretty far for the course of the

1553
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 8: Ballad history, he usually is quiet week one. But again,

1554
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 8: these subtractions I think are at like a very notable level,

1555
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 8: and some of them make a little bit more sense

1556
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 8: than others. But you know, if you look at it,

1557
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 8: I think I'm actually talked about this before the show.

1558
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,480
Speaker 8: If you go back to the Ballard hiring twenty seventeen.

1559
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 5: You've got four guys gone that have started.

1560
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 8: I want to say, it's seventy more or more games

1561
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 8: for you quit he pay Michael Pittman, Junior, Braden Smith

1562
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 8: or Franklin. Now again, some of them, you know, were

1563
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 8: probably you know whatever, either should have gone or priced

1564
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 8: themselves out. But who is replacing them a little bit

1565
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 8: more of a question mark as we sit here, you know,

1566
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 8: Friday afternoon.

1567
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: The some of it, Kevin, me, let me word it

1568
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: this way. Is there the possibility that a few of

1569
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: the departures for the colts are somewhat an addition if

1570
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: you will, because it means that they didn't overpay or

1571
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: get pulled into committing to something that somebody else pulled

1572
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: away from them that would have taken financial resource from

1573
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: them and it wasn't necessary. Does that make sense the

1574
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: way I'm wording that?

1575
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, a little bit, and feel free if I'm

1576
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 8: not necessarily reading it right. I mean, you know, when

1577
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 8: you look at Franklin and Pittman, for example, they were

1578
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 8: glorified salary dumps, you know, correct.

1579
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: And I guess that's what I mean, Like, did did

1580
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 1: could that actually be of benefit to them? Oddly enough in.

1581
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 8: The long run, well, I just you know, maybe a

1582
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 8: little bit like financially, but you also got to feel

1583
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 8: the football team. So my question then becomes, you know,

1584
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 8: where or how are you replacing those guys? You know,

1585
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 8: if you look at like the offensive line with Braden

1586
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 8: Smith's leaving, Jalen Travis, theoretically is the new right tackle.

1587
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 8: You know, that's kind of the passing the torch thing

1588
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 8: they've done at right guard with Mac Gonzalveez, and it's

1589
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 8: center with Hanna Bordalini. You know, it's worked out, I

1590
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 8: would say, for one year, but you know it's all

1591
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 8: we can go off of, you know, at at center

1592
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 8: and right guard.

1593
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 5: You know, are you going to win that again? You know,

1594
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 5: are you going to go three for three there?

1595
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 2: That?

1596
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 5: You know two for three? He'd probably sign up for

1597
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 5: that a year or two ago.

1598
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 8: You know, Quitty pay to me that was like, oh,

1599
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 8: you're going to upgrade, like he will leave and you

1600
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 8: will upgrade. But again, as we said here right now,

1601
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily know how that's going to look. Honestly,

1602
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 8: if you look at the available defensive ends right now,

1603
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 8: it reads like you and I having this conversation doing

1604
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 8: the Morning Show four years ago. Right, it's like, oh

1605
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 8: Joey Bosa, Oh, Cam Jordan, Oh you know, Hassan Reddick,

1606
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 8: Leonard Floyd. Well it's like, well, Kevin Jacob's twenty twenty six,

1607
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 8: not twenty twenty two, not twenty twenty one.

1608
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 5: So again that's where you know a little bit of that.

1609
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 8: You know, Nick Cross, you know back at Safety, I

1610
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 8: the key is a player that actually you would.

1611
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 5: Have wanted to resign.

1612
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 8: So you've gotten the salary cap relief per se with

1613
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 8: Franklin and Pittman, But where is it going? Like they

1614
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 8: wanted Ray Hendrickson, They made a legit big offer, and

1615
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 8: it's like, okay, they missed. Now where do you pivot.

1616
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 8: That's where there's some unknown in it. And I don't

1617
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 8: have a great idea exactly.

1618
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 6: What the plan is.

1619
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: Did making the trade and I realized the desire Franklin

1620
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 1: thing maybe, like like you said, I mean, there's a

1621
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 1: lot that goes into play with that, right, But getting

1622
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: Wooden back from green Bay and somebody that gives you

1623
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: an insurance policy on the D line, do we read

1624
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: into anything on that in terms of that perhaps implying

1625
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: something that they may anticipate moving forward with contractually Grover Stewart.

1626
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:39,600
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

1627
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 8: You know, honestly, the question that I've heard from more

1628
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 8: people is not Grover. It's more of deforce Buckner in

1629
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 8: the neck.

1630
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: You know.

1631
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 8: Is there anything to read into that? And you know, again,

1632
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 8: I don't think so. Now, Frankly, I think they've put

1633
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 8: they have literally said a divorce.

1634
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 5: Buckner and Grover Stewart.

1635
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 8: Now for the last five or six years, here is

1636
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 8: a thinks giving plate weekly like we need you to

1637
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,560
Speaker 8: eat all of it. And I think it's just a

1638
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 8: lot for those guys to continue to sustain that, you know,

1639
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 8: as they both have reached the age of thirty. And

1640
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 8: in Buckner's case, you've seen now significant injuries really, I mean,

1641
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 8: you know, not every day you're just going to Panama

1642
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 8: on getting treatment and the needing, next surgery.

1643
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 5: And remember he battled it back there for a little

1644
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 5: bit as well.

1645
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 8: I think he's had the elbow, if I remember correctly,

1646
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 8: I think that that needed some Tommy John. So you know, again,

1647
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 8: his just invincibility, which he's had for so long, you know,

1648
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 8: is that starting to add up? And you know, do

1649
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 8: you look at these moves and say, all right to Forest.

1650
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 8: Instead of playing forty five snaps a game, are you

1651
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 8: playing thirty snaps a game?

1652
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 5: That, to me is what it reads.

1653
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 8: I forget if it was Ballot or Spike in one

1654
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 8: of them instead of the combine, they feel like he'll

1655
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 8: be ready for training camp. So again, I don't view

1656
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 8: either Buckner or Grovers like we wake up tomorrow and

1657
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 8: they're a cap casualty or you know they're they're traded

1658
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 8: or anything like that. But is it more of just

1659
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 8: a hey, you know, we used to ask you to

1660
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 8: run ten miles, let's ask you to run four miles now.

1661
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Kevin, I thought that Kevin Bowen's my guest from the

1662
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 1: Fan Morning show. He's on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee

1663
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: guest line speaking of Java House, by the way, title

1664
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: sponsor Indycard this week in Kyle Kirkwood, we now know

1665
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: about thirty five minutes from now is going to join

1666
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 1: us from down in Dallas. Kevin, it seems to me

1667
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 1: so much was made, and in particular from Chris Ballard

1668
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 1: about his excitement his optimism in landing Leatu Latu in

1669
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 1: the draft. And yet and I get it. I mean,

1670
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: the Buckner factor is the bigger answer to this riddle.

1671
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: But are they still actively looking for past rush? Does

1672
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: that tell us anything about what they think of Leatu Latu?

1673
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 8: No, I don't I get the question. I don't think so,

1674
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 8: And honestly, I I'm intrigued by a Lots Entering year three.

1675
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,719
Speaker 8: I thought, you know, maybe his rookie season you would

1676
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 8: have liked. I think he hit a little bit of

1677
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 8: a wall, and you know, considering what he did.

1678
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 5: At UCLA those last two years, I think the thought.

1679
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 8: Was, hey, he can kind of walk into the NFL

1680
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 8: and he's not going to be like that project ye

1681
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 8: like some pass rushers are even around one. You know,

1682
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 8: this past year, I thought he had some more legit production.

1683
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 8: I still think you would like a little bit more.

1684
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 8: But you know, Trey Hendrickson's a great example of it

1685
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 8: of a guy that really didn't have the full NFL

1686
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 8: assent until really probably year three four five was kind

1687
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 8: of when he took off. So you know, it's certainly

1688
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 8: not a ringing endorsement based off the others.

1689
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 5: But you know, of all the high draft.

1690
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 8: Picks, Ballots had a defensive end, A Lot two's easily

1691
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 8: had the best start to his career. Now it probably

1692
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 8: says more about the others than it does lots too,

1693
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 8: But I think he's got some real promise, I guess

1694
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 8: so again to me, I don't look at it like that.

1695
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 8: It's more of a all right, if Buckner is kind

1696
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 8: of walking up the seventeenth hole eighteen tolls of his career,

1697
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 8: and now the double teams that were constant towards him,

1698
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 8: now are they going to a lot to Okay? Does

1699
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 8: that mean you need to rely more on an opposite

1700
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 8: defensive end? And that's where I think, you know, this

1701
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 8: sort of approach this offseason, Like I if you would

1702
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 8: have if we had this conversation last Friday, I would

1703
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 8: have told you by this week they would have made

1704
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 8: a notable move at defensive end, Like I am very surprised.

1705
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 8: We sit here and again Hendrickson was was the try

1706
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 8: and Baltimore came in and said, sorry about you, but

1707
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 8: you know, to have nothing else.

1708
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 5: Monday, all these guys came off the board.

1709
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 8: The Colts waited on Hendrickson, they felt like they were

1710
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 8: in a good spot, and then boom, ironically, it's Baltimore

1711
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 8: that you know, gets them.

1712
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 1: More likely Indiana makes it into the NCAA tournament or

1713
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson stays with Indianapolis.

1714
01:36:56,120 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 5: That's a good one. Yeah, I don't. I mean, there's

1715
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 5: no way, there's no way for either. I'll say Richardson.

1716
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 8: I mean, if Daniel Jones tomorrow goes and tears his

1717
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 8: other achilles, then all of a sudden, you're back to

1718
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 8: scramble mode here.

1719
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 5: I don't unless they is.

1720
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: There a market for Richardson Kevin? I mean, I mean,

1721
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: that is no disrespect to him, But like we've heard nothing,

1722
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: no team allegedly adventures Kyle kind of Murrayan's up in Minnesota.

1723
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the market for Anthony Richardson?

1724
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say again, the only way that I

1725
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 8: think any animates the tournaments that they've they announced that

1726
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 8: they've expanded it as seventy two or seventy six teams.

1727
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's immense.

1728
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 8: But like, if I were a team out there and

1729
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 8: I had seven Day three draft picks and my quarterback

1730
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 8: depth chart was not filled with great answers, would you

1731
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 8: not just give up one pick and say, you know what,

1732
01:37:56,680 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 8: five million dollar cap hit or whatever. I think it's

1733
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 8: split in halfings the colt would eat five and then

1734
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 8: the other team would take five. Would you not take

1735
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 8: a fly? I mean it's quarterback, you know, like it

1736
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 8: means a whole whole lot.

1737
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 6: So I.

1738
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 5: Tend to think at some point we will see, you know,

1739
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 5: a Day three pick. I don't, I don't know.

1740
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 8: Maybe I'm totally misreading the situation. I don't think you

1741
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 8: would just outright cut him for nothing. I mean you

1742
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 8: imagine the fourth overall pick and three years later it

1743
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 8: turns into literally nothing.

1744
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 5: I can't I don't know, I can't see that.

1745
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 1: And it's not like Kevin in defense of Anthony Richardson.

1746
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 1: It's not like it's JaMarcus Russell or somebody or you know,

1747
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Whedon where instantly you're like, this guy just can't play.

1748
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 1: He has shown some moments and you know, I mean

1749
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,560
Speaker 1: the Jets game, you know, places where he had to

1750
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: have drives. It's not like he has been completely inapt, right.

1751
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 5: Right, Yes, I think that was well said. Yeah, how

1752
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 5: you put it there?

1753
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 8: And I do think there is a level of First off,

1754
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 8: there's no real deadline with Richardson, like you could call

1755
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 8: maybe the draft.

1756
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 5: Of deadline, but there's no real deadline.

1757
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think a lot of people are all right,

1758
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 8: let's get through this wave of free agency. You know,

1759
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 8: Kyler Murray find a home, Daniel Jones find a home,

1760
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 8: Malik Willis find a home, you know, And I don't know,

1761
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 8: maybe now the next wave is Kirk Cousins and those

1762
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 8: guys find homes, and then Richardson you know, falls a

1763
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:19,719
Speaker 8: little bit more to the picture.

1764
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 5: But you know, I I've always kind.

1765
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 8: Of felt like, okay, late March, early April, because again,

1766
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 8: if you're trading a draft pick for twenty twenty six,

1767
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 8: you don't really care about that until the draft gets here,

1768
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,600
Speaker 8: and then some might say, well, you know, maybe you

1769
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 8: give up a twenty twenty seven draft pick that has

1770
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 8: like some parameters on it, like I, e, hey, if

1771
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 8: he gets whatever, you know, if he starts seven games

1772
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 8: this season, the pick becomes a fourth rounder. You know,

1773
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 8: I want to say the Carson Wentz parameters had some

1774
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 8: playing time associated with it. But yeah, I to answer

1775
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 8: your question, I yeah, I can't see better chance. You know,

1776
01:39:58,760 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 8: I would in the DY five hundred.

1777
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: But by the way, are you already are you already

1778
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 1: excited for the Indy five hundred, because I'm starting to

1779
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: kind of get excited for the Indy five hundred.

1780
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 8: Very it's funny you say that. The reason I think

1781
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 8: I brought that up my my in law. So we

1782
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 8: go to the five hundred with just got a group

1783
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 8: sex form, my brother in law trying to initiate.

1784
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 5: Okay, where we have on tickets? What do we need?

1785
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 5: What what's the plan all that. I'm like, let's go

1786
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 5: March thirteenth. We're getting on it.

1787
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: So the so Kevin, I don't know if you heard

1788
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: on the show or if you saw last year when

1789
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: Indy Car was at Road America, which is up in Wisconsin,

1790
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 1: Santino Ferrucci at the end of the race his car

1791
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 1: he ran out of fuel on the cool down lap,

1792
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 1: So he gets out of his car and he's just

1793
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: walking along on the track after the race, and some

1794
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: fan lobs him a beer over the fence and Ferrucci

1795
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: like shotguns and on the on the track right. So

1796
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,600
Speaker 1: I ended up getting a hold of the fan. We

1797
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 1: had him on the show. The dude was just an

1798
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: awesome personality. He uses pride of Wisconsin the way you

1799
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: and I do about Indiana, and so I on the

1800
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 1: air said, listen, I could use a spotter for the

1801
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: five hundred if you want to, you know, take me

1802
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: up on it. And he called me last week and goes, hey,

1803
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 1: I got it. You know, I'm in. I talked to

1804
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 1: my dad and now we're driving down. So that's my spotter,

1805
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: and like, how much fun is that going to be?

1806
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 5: I love that.

1807
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 8: Two things to note while we're on this, I'm very

1808
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,560
Speaker 8: happy I bought ten tickets a few years ago to

1809
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 8: start to get priority.

1810
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 5: In my name.

1811
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 8: You know, obviously it's very difficult to try and get great,

1812
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 8: great seats, right, So I'm excited that this year some

1813
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 8: of my tickets have moved up to rowe Pee. I'm like,

1814
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 8: all right, you know, higher we get the alphabet, the

1815
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 8: better there. You know, hopefully we can give the double

1816
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 8: letters at some point. So I'm very happy about that.

1817
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 8: And then two, your conversation with Joseph Neugarten last year

1818
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 8: was awesome.

1819
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 5: Can you can you walk me through what happened there? Well?

1820
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so going for a jog so New Garden In

1821
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 1: the final minute here with with Kevin simply New Garden,

1822
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: his car was disqualified from qualifying that. I looked up

1823
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 1: on the video board and it showed that he had

1824
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 1: gone for a jog instead. He jogged on the backstretch.

1825
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: I was up by myself in turn three. Actually, there

1826
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,680
Speaker 1: was a fan from Ohio I brought up with me.

1827
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 1: Yelled at New Garden. He came up into the stands,

1828
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: put on the headset, talked about how great the view was,

1829
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 1: and then said that Robert Schwartzman was going to win

1830
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: the poll. And Schwartzman won the pole. It was awesome.

1831
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 8: I remember he had a bold statement and yeah, okay, yeah,

1832
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,719
Speaker 8: it was Yeah. He called Robert Schwartzman.

1833
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 5: Gosh, that was so good.

1834
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: It was awesome work. It was very cool, all right, Kevin,

1835
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: enjoy the weekend, have a wonderful weekend, and keep your

1836
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 1: fingers crossed for me, because I'm on my way to

1837
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 1: Texas in a bit and I'm thinking it's gonna be

1838
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: a little windy upon takeoff, so we'll see what happens.

1839
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: Good luck.

1840
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 5: Enjoy Arlington. It looks awesome.

1841
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 1: It does look awesome. Appreciate it. Kevin Bowen joining US

1842
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: Fan Morning show seven o'clock in the morning. You will

1843
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 1: hear him along with James Boyd and jeff Rickord coming

1844
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: up on Monday, and of course they'll have the first

1845
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 1: crack at being able to break down and look at

1846
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 1: the tournament bracket and whether or not, and I do

1847
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: think yeah, I think probably the final sands of the

1848
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: hour have gone through for Indiana in terms of their

1849
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: tournament hopes. Now, Ohio State one of those that was

1850
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 1: on the bubble with them. Ohio State now is in

1851
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: sit and wait mode because they just got bounced by Michigan.

1852
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: They did play well though seventy one sixty seven. Michigan

1853
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,799
Speaker 1: has advanced past Ohio State in the Big Ten tournament.

1854
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 1: But the Buckeys at twenty one and twelve the eight

1855
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: seed out of the Big Ten, and one would assume

1856
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: that they have punched their tickets secured themselves into the

1857
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. All right, it's a Friday. You know what

1858
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: that means, Franciscan health, feel good, good for the heart Friday.

1859
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 1: We've got a very important conversation about the importance of

1860
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 1: those heart scans coming up. And then IndyCar as I

1861
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 1: mentioned in Arlington, going around the Cowboys stadium. Kyle Kirkwood

1862
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: just wrapping up touring the practice facility for the Cowboys

1863
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,799
Speaker 1: and he's going to join us in about twenty five minutes.

1864
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 1: It is a Friday, Bottom of the hour. You know

1865
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 1: what that means. It is a Franciscan Health feel good

1866
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: good for the heart Friday. And on my way to

1867
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 1: and I'm excited about going down to Arlington a new

1868
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,560
Speaker 1: event for indiecar and will be headed there shortly. The

1869
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 1: crossover with JMV coming up in just a little bit.

1870
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 1: But wanted to get to a very important topic because

1871
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 1: we have talked plenty about heart scans. You hear me

1872
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 1: mentioning it regularly. As a matter of fact, the forty

1873
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 1: nine dollars non invasive, in so important heart scan from

1874
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Franciscan Health, And a lot of people ask me, They said, Jake,

1875
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 1: I know that you get the heart health risk assessment

1876
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: with it. What exactly is the heart scan? And I thought,

1877
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: you know what, I basically interpret ball scores for a

1878
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: living So I thought I'd bring somebody on who is

1879
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 1: an expert in exactly that from a comprehensive standpoint. As

1880
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he is a comprehensive cardiologist for

1881
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 1: Franciscan Health. He joins me now on the Java House

1882
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: guest line. Babu Dotta Panini, who is a doctor in

1883
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: Franciscan joining me now on the program. First off, Doctor,

1884
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. How are you good?

1885
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you for having me.

1886
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 1: Let's begin with exactly what I was just talking about.

1887
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 1: You know, I think that people hear heart scan and

1888
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 1: when you think about the heart and then scan combined,

1889
01:44:58,479 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: they think, I don't know that sounds like it would

1890
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: hurt or I don't know exactly what it is. People

1891
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: are intimidated by it. Doctor, What exactly is the process

1892
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 1: and its goal is to do what?

1893
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 7: So?

1894
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 4: Yes, A good question to start with. So heart scan

1895
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 4: is it's a very rapidly acquired outpatient procedure and it

1896
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 4: is a non contrast CT scan of your heart. That

1897
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 4: means you don't need any injections, you don't need any

1898
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 4: ivs put in, and it can be done in less

1899
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 4: than ten minutes. And yeah, very quick procedure. And the

1900
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 4: goal is is to find out whether one has significant

1901
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 4: cardiovascular UH disease.

1902
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 5: UH.

1903
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 4: What I mean by that is we're trying to find

1904
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 4: out if there is significant calcification of the ryas, which

1905
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 4: is an indirect marker of cardiovascular disease.

1906
01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: And doctor, with that, when you talk about the red

1907
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,560
Speaker 1: of the heart scan and just the calcium score that

1908
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 1: can come you know, you hear people say, hey, heart scan,

1909
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 1: and my calcium score is you know, say one hundred,

1910
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it may be. What does the score

1911
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 1: exactly mean and what sort of imperfection might you be

1912
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:15,560
Speaker 1: looking for?

1913
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 4: Yes, so, the it's been pretty well studied. And so

1914
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 4: what calcium score really means is, first of all, it's

1915
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 4: a very powerful predictor of presence of coronary athrosclerosis. What

1916
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 4: that means is athrosclerosis or plaque build up in the

1917
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 4: coronary arteries that supply your heart muscle. And also it

1918
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 4: is a marker of extent of the athrosclerosis. That means,

1919
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 4: the higher the score, the more amount of plaque you

1920
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:49,799
Speaker 4: have in the arteries.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And the higher the score, the more plaque and

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Speaker 1: the arteries. The step then for somebody would be what

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Speaker 1: in terms of if someone goes in and you were

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Speaker 1: to discover something there, what then becomes the procedure towards

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Speaker 1: getting things back into where you would like it to

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Speaker 1: see or where you would like to see it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So the best option is to immediately consult your

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Speaker 4: health care provider or a cardiologist and to just start

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Speaker 4: the discussion, you know, so you can look into your

1930
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Speaker 4: risk factor profile and what can we do about the

1931
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Speaker 4: risk factors and how can we prevent more plaque build

1932
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Speaker 4: up and really to talk about a heart healthy lifestyle.

1933
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Speaker 1: Doctor Babu Dota Pinini is my guest. He is a

1934
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Speaker 1: comprehensive cardiologist from Franciscent Franciscan Health. We're talking about heart scans,

1935
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Speaker 1: the importance of them, what they mean. Doctor. One of

1936
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Speaker 1: the things I wanted to clarify because I know that

1937
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Speaker 1: when we talk about heart health, you know, we hear

1938
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Speaker 1: about calcium and we hear about cholesterol both. Can you

1939
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Speaker 1: detect cholesterol build up on a heart scan?

1940
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Speaker 4: Yes, well so calcium scoree where like I mentioned earlier,

1941
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Speaker 4: what we're really looking for is the calcium that can

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Speaker 4: be detected by the cat scan. What it is showing

1943
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Speaker 4: is just by detecting the calcium, it is really showing

1944
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Speaker 4: the plaque with cholesterol in it. But the cholesterol is

1945
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Speaker 4: not quote unquote photogenic, So the calcium is the one

1946
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Speaker 4: that's photogenicon that shows up on the scan. So once

1947
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Speaker 4: you have calcium high calcium score, that means you have

1948
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Speaker 4: cholesterol plaque in there.

1949
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Speaker 1: Who should get a hard scan any specific risk element

1950
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Speaker 1: or age factor that you look towards and say yes,

1951
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 1: you should be getting a heart scan or is there

1952
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Speaker 1: a certain age where everyone should be getting one?

1953
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Speaker 4: Sure? So the first thing to remember is this is

1954
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Speaker 4: purely for patients who are not having hot symptoms. Like

1955
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Speaker 4: if somebody is having chest pain or some concerning symptoms,

1956
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Speaker 4: that's not who we should go through this procedure. So

1957
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Speaker 4: this is for asymptomatic patients. It typically ages between forty

1958
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Speaker 4: to sixty five with at least one to two risk factors.

1959
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Speaker 4: And when I say risk factors, I'm talking about diabetes,

1960
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Speaker 4: high blood pressure, or tobacco use, family history, high cholesterol,

1961
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Speaker 4: those kind of things.

1962
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Speaker 1: And doctor, I assume and you say tobacco use, let's

1963
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Speaker 1: say cigarette smoker, that means former as well. You know

1964
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Speaker 1: if somebody says, hey I quit smoking ten years ago,

1965
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Speaker 1: well that's not to say that there might not still

1966
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Speaker 1: be some things that could be present from.

1967
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Speaker 4: That, correct, You're absolutely right?

1968
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay. And with that again, if one is to

1969
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Speaker 1: go in and get the heart scan, and let's say

1970
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 1: everything looks great, doctor, is there a period of time

1971
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: that it is thought that that then gives you a

1972
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: window towards In other words, how long after that should

1973
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Speaker 1: one return for yet another scan.

1974
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Speaker 4: Yes, so if let's say somebody has a low score.

1975
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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, any score is abnormal. Low

1976
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Speaker 4: normal score is zero. So let's say if somebody had

1977
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 4: a score of zero, but they do have a lot

1978
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Speaker 4: of other risk factors like I just mentioned, then it

1979
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Speaker 4: is really worthwhile to repeat a scan in five to

1980
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Speaker 4: seven years from the original scan.

1981
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Speaker 1: Okay, and we hear so much about you know, calcium score,

1982
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: calcium build up. You know, I know, calcium is present

1983
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Speaker 1: in a lot of things. A lot of dairy products

1984
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 1: have calcium, A lot of your supplements have calcium. Is

1985
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: this the same sort of a thing. Is there a

1986
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 1: correlation between calcium intake and calcium build up?

1987
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Speaker 4: Yes, that is an excellent question. So it has been

1988
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Speaker 4: looked at in clinical studies and so diet the calcium

1989
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 4: that you get in the diet. When they looked at it,

1990
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Speaker 4: it is actually associated with lower risk of developing approsclerosis

1991
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 4: or or quote unquote calcium build up. In contrast, when

1992
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 4: you take calcium supplements over the counter prescription, that is

1993
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Speaker 4: actually been shown to increase the chance of developing athrosclerosis

1994
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Speaker 4: by as high as twenty percent and one of the

1995
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Speaker 4: potential causes for that is when you take supplements, it

1996
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 4: tends to cause more rapid rays in your serum calcium

1997
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 4: levels compared to dietary calcium, so that the calcium that's

1998
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,679
Speaker 4: already present in the diety is absolutely safe to consume.

1999
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Speaker 1: Again, doctor Babu Dota Pinini is with Franciscan Health. He

2000
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: is a comprehensive cardiologist. Talking about the heart scans, Doctor

2001
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. It is a great and again

2002
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 1: I think the simplest way of saying it is, especially

2003
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: if you're between forty and sixty five, there's almost no

2004
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: reason to not get the heart scan because it is

2005
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: simple you mentioned ten minutes or even under that, non invasive,

2006
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,600
Speaker 1: there is no needle involved, very easy to do, and

2007
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: this is something that can get people on the right

2008
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 1: path if they didn't even know they were heading down

2009
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 1: the wrong one. So a very important discussion for sure.

2010
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Speaker 1: Doctor I appreciate the time.

2011
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Speaker 4: As always, thank you very much and thanks for having me.

2012
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Speaker 1: Again it is a pleasure to speak with them. Doctor

2013
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 1: Babu dot A Panini from Franciscan Health and again a

2014
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: comprehensive cardiologist. Folks are reminder the number one heart program

2015
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Speaker 1: in Indiana for cardiology by health grades and number one

2016
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,839
Speaker 1: in Indiana for interventional coordinary care and major cardiac surgery

2017
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 1: by care checks is Franciscan Health. And that heart scan

2018
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 1: is affordable just forty nine dollars. You can self refer,

2019
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 1: pay out a pocket and you get a free heart

2020
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Speaker 1: health risk assessment included with every screening. Simply put, you

2021
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 1: cannot afford to not get the scan, why not do it?

2022
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 1: Simply schedule it for forty nine dollars at Franciscanhealth dot

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Speaker 1: org slash screening bundles. That's Franciscanhealth dot org slash screening

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Speaker 1: bundles or call eight three three two three eight zero

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Speaker 1: six eight eight. That is eight three three two three

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Speaker 1: eight zero six eight eight all right. Other side, he

2027
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 1: has a pair of top fives in the IndyCar series

2028
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 1: and on the way now. As a matter of fact,

2029
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,879
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to him from down in Texas,

2030
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: Dallas Arlington specifically new venue for IndyCar and Kyle Kirkwood

2031
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 1: sits second in points, just five behind the leader Joseph

2032
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 1: Neugarten through two races, and he is scheduled to join

2033
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Speaker 1: us next. We'll do it other side here at Querying

2034
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Company Friday. I'm the fan, all right, new event in

2035
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: IndyCar coming up. As a matter of fact, I'm on

2036
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: my way to the airport here in just a little bit.

2037
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 1: But it is now they say the streets of Arlington

2038
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 1: at Eddie Young Amas with you, it's more like a

2039
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 1: parking lot around Jerry World and the stadiums of Dallas

2040
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 1: and joining us now in Texas. He is currently sitting

2041
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 1: second in points. I'm talking about Kyle Kirkwood, who drives

2042
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 1: with Andretti Global and has two top fives so far

2043
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,720
Speaker 1: on the year. And Kyle, let's get to this first

2044
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 1: and four foremost. I'm always fascinated by this a new track,

2045
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: so it's new to everybody, I guess. But how long

2046
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 1: does it take to kind of learn the track itself?

2047
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 1: And do you guys get any sort of indication or

2048
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 1: walk through or anything before you strap into a car

2049
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: when it's a new event to know what it is

2050
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 1: and where it is that you're racing.

2051
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jake, thanks for having me first, First and foremost.

2052
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 7: It's an interesting question, right because we haven't had a

2053
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 7: new street course in a couple of years, a few years,

2054
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 7: I think it's been since Detroit and then prior to

2055
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 7: that was Nashville, and we kind of have a good

2056
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 7: system and how we go about and how we learn.

2057
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 7: Obviously we're constantly learning and we have to learn so much,

2058
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 7: especially in our first practice that's coming up. And for us,

2059
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 7: all the prep that we do beforehand is all simulation based, right,

2060
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 7: and we don't get that much simulation because it takes

2061
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 7: it takes data from the car to run us simulation.

2062
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 7: It takes track scans, it takes everything that you get

2063
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 7: from the racetrack, and then you correlate it. So doing

2064
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 7: a correlation prior to a brand new event it's very

2065
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 7: very hard, but we can.

2066
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 1: Still do it to some extent.

2067
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Speaker 7: So we have a CAD model of where the walls

2068
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 7: are and then we kind of have a guestimate of

2069
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 7: what the bumps are going to look like, so we

2070
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 7: can try and match ride heights right, because every millimeter

2071
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 7: in ride height is performance in one of these INDI cars,

2072
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 7: So every team's trying to get as much as they

2073
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 7: can out of it, and that's probably the most important thing.

2074
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 7: Then you go into set up things like springs packages

2075
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 7: and then driving right. Driving very important around a street

2076
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 7: circuit like that we're we're able to push the limits.

2077
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Speaker 7: So yeah, we'll go do a track We've already done

2078
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Speaker 7: a track.

2079
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Speaker 6: Walk actually, and.

2080
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Speaker 7: Learn the circuit a little bit, look at look at

2081
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 7: some of the bumps, maybe maybe understand what our sim

2082
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 7: correlation is different from what is actually at the track,

2083
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 7: and and go from there. And then we're drinking from

2084
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 7: a fire hose from practice one where we go out

2085
01:55:57,920 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 7: there we try and figure everything out. We have to

2086
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 7: look at a million different sensors on the car to

2087
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 7: figure out exactly where we need to be in a

2088
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 7: window to make this car operate as fast as it

2089
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 7: possibly can around this pretty long and high speed street course.

2090
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 7: So there's a lot that goes into it, especially in

2091
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 7: a day like today.

2092
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: You know, for you personally, Kyle. You know, a year

2093
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: ago you were right there hanging in the points championship

2094
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 1: for the vast majority of the season. And I say

2095
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: this respectfully, but you know, towards the set, probably the

2096
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 1: last third really, I guess if we put it in

2097
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: racing terms of the last stent of the year, you

2098
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: faded back a little bit there. It is such a

2099
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 1: grind the course of the season itself, and you're off

2100
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 1: to a great start obviously, but what did you learn

2101
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 1: last year? I guess maybe even mentally just about making

2102
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: sure that you're staying with it over the totality of

2103
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 1: the season that you can apply to this season.

2104
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, consistency is key, right.

2105
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 7: We got to we got to win races, we got

2106
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 7: to get podiums, which we've done. Now we've got to

2107
01:56:57,560 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 7: continue to get top five. The reason why we tapered

2108
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 7: off at that middle of the later part of the

2109
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 7: season was because we just weren't even finishing in the

2110
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Speaker 7: top ten.

2111
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Speaker 5: Right.

2112
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 7: We did enough good to keep us solidified at the

2113
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 7: front of the championship, but not enough to even contend

2114
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 7: for even second, right, So consistency is key. We got

2115
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 7: we got to get better at some of these short

2116
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 7: ovals that were going to which we just proved at Phoenix.

2117
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 7: We got to get better at some of the road courses.

2118
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 7: Portland is a big one for US, any GP is

2119
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 7: a big one for US, Laguna. Those will be true

2120
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 7: tellers and how we do in our championship run, because

2121
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 7: everybody knows that we're good at Indianapolis, we're good at

2122
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 7: all the street courses, we're good at some of the

2123
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,200
Speaker 7: some of the road courses, but there's some key factors

2124
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 7: that play big role into how our championship is going

2125
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 7: to formulate.

2126
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 1: This weekend for IndyCar, it will be the Java House

2127
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 1: Grand Prix of Arlington. And by Arlington, that doesn't mean

2128
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 1: the street on the east side of Indianapolis. It is

2129
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: the area of the suburb of Dallas where IndyCar will

2130
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 1: be racing. And Kyle Kirkwood and Dretti Global joins me

2131
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 1: right now on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line. Kyle,

2132
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: this is cool because of the circuit itself. You know,

2133
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are kind of the de facto host for

2134
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 1: you here. You've got a chance to go around their

2135
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: practice facility. Is that true?

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 7: I'm actually yeah, I tore it a little bit a

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Speaker 7: little while ago, so yeah, it was. It's it's incredible

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Speaker 7: what they've been able to build here and what Jerry

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01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 7: Jones is and they've been a great partner to us

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Speaker 7: at IndyCar and bringing this whole event together with the Rangers,

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys, IndyCar. It's just some of the biggest names

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Speaker 7: in sports in the US are all coming together to

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Speaker 7: make a great event for the people here in Dallas.

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Speaker 7: And Fort Worth area.

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Speaker 1: So we we love it.

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Speaker 7: This is this is a great venue. It's it's one

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Speaker 7: of the nicest street courses that we've been able to

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Speaker 7: run on. And and just the length of it, the passability,

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Speaker 7: the race ability, the roughness of the road, everything is

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01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 7: top notch. And and if you're if you see some

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01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 7: videos online or stuff of the hospitality units that they

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Speaker 7: have here, it's it's second to none. It's what you'd

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Speaker 7: expect at at a top tier worldwide race event.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: So it's yeah, this is this has been great so far.

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Speaker 7: We've We've had a great trip. The practice facility was incredible,

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Speaker 7: everything has been It's been awesome, top notch. Expect what

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Speaker 7: you would expect from the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Right, you grew up in Florida. If I'm not mistaken, right,

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Speaker 1: you better Florida. That is correct. So and and I

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Speaker 1: if I recall it, I'm going up memory here. I

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Speaker 1: think I might be confusing you with Spencer Pigot, another

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Speaker 1: Florida guy who liked soccer growing up. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what your sport was. Did you watch a bunch of

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Speaker 1: NFL growing up?

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't watch it.

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Speaker 7: I've actually got more into NFL and probably the last

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01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 7: three or four years than than I than I was

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Speaker 7: interested when I was When I was young, I was

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01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 7: actually into soccer, and I think Spencer Pigot was too,

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01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 7: So we have a common denominator there. But so he

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01:59:57,200 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 7: might be confusing, might not be, I would say, I mean,

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Speaker 7: my team has always been the Dolphins, being the South

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Speaker 7: Florida guy. But I've got a lot of family in Dallas,

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Speaker 7: so I guess a sarrogate Cowboys fan as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, then it's got to be cool to go through

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Speaker 1: the facility and practice around it. Kyle Kirkwood my guest,

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Speaker 1: and Dreddie Global the team. You have a new teammate

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Speaker 1: this year in will Power, And I'll be honest Kyle.

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Speaker 1: For me personally as a broadcaster, it still does my

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02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 1: eye and my brain coordination hasn't registered it yet, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and Malucas is a great talent, but when

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Speaker 1: I see that twelve Verizon car, I still think will Power.

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Speaker 1: It takes a second to get acclimated to that. What

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02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 1: about for you, like just as a teammate in meetings

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02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:46,880
Speaker 1: things like that, does it take a second.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, it's been so fluid, like it's a

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02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 7: little strange not having Colton right, and he's off to

2190
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Speaker 7: massive things in Europe and we're very proud of him

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02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 7: and we're watching very closely. So it's a little bit

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Speaker 7: a little bit weird not how to Colton as a

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Speaker 7: as a teammate. But it's also been incredible having Will

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Speaker 7: as a teammate because he is filled in perfectly. He's

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Speaker 7: been very analytical, he's been he's been pushing the team

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Speaker 7: in great directions. I think some of our Oval performance

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Speaker 7: that we just saw this past weekend where we had

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Speaker 7: a chance at winning, both Will and I did have

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Speaker 7: a chance at chance at winning that race, it was

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Speaker 7: a lot of it was due to what he's been

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Speaker 7: able to bring to the table and in the direction

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Speaker 7: that he's pointing us. So there's been massive positives with him,

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Speaker 7: and he's been a great teammate and just a great

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Speaker 7: friend and has been pushing the whole team along. So

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Speaker 7: it's been a very fluid, nice transition from what most

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Speaker 7: people would consider a loss not not having Colton on

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02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 7: the team right. So yeah, it's it's been great. To

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Speaker 7: be honest, we can ask for a better teammate, you know.

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Speaker 1: When you're sitting in like an engineering room, yourself, Kyle Kirkwood,

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Speaker 1: my guest, yourself, Marcus Erickson, will Power. Do you guys

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Speaker 1: all have a similar style and feel of a setup

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02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,480
Speaker 1: for a car or is there a strength in trying

2213
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody kind of has a different

2214
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 1: viewpoint so you can share information on the different style

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02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 1: that each of you might bring to the table.

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Speaker 7: So we all we all pretty much have a similar style.

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Speaker 7: There's a couple couple of nuances that that Will has

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Speaker 7: I think to his driving style that I won't go

2219
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 7: into great detail with that might affect the balance of

2220
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Speaker 7: the car a little bit, But in general, I think

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Speaker 7: we can all drive a very similar setup and and

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Speaker 7: expect to have pace out of out of each setup,

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Speaker 7: which was very similar to Colton, Marcus and I. So

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Speaker 7: it's it's been quite easy. You know, when you have

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Speaker 7: a teammate that goes out on an island on on

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02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:46,920
Speaker 7: setup stuff and makes you a little bit wary to

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Speaker 7: to make a big setup change to what they might

2228
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 7: be running if they're fast, it creates a question mark

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02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 7: and in your teammate's mind. So it's nice to have

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02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 7: a teammate that is very similar in driving style. Can

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02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:05,920
Speaker 7: drive the same setups and still do similar lab times

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Speaker 7: with those setups.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, Kyle Kirkwood my guest, because I know you

2235
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:12,760
Speaker 1: got a busy day. You want to get back out

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Speaker 1: on the track. I appreciate the time. A couple of

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02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 1: years ago, a guy that listens to this show reached

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Speaker 1: out to me and Chiefs fan Steve we call him.

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Speaker 1: He's a huge Chiefs fan, and he said, Jake, I

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Speaker 1: want to get in an IndyCar. I've always been a

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Speaker 1: football guy. I've never really followed racing, but I need

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Speaker 1: a driver. And so I gave him a description of

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02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: each of the drivers in the field and you know,

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02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 1: what would be a fun thing to root about for them.

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02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 1: And so he wrote me back and he said, I'm

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Speaker 1: all in. Kyle Kirkwood is my guy. Kyle Kirkwood is

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Speaker 1: my guy. This was when you were first driving with

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02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 1: AJ Foyt, and you know the I think we saw

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02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:50,520
Speaker 1: that the acumen was there, but the results took a

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Speaker 1: while to come. Now you've arrived. I saw Chiefs fan

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Speaker 1: Steve the other day and he's all in on Kyle

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02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 1: Kirkwood now and he's waving the flag for you. Right.

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02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:01,800
Speaker 1: What is it about now where it is a arrived

2254
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:04,440
Speaker 1: for you and what lesson can people take from Kyle

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Speaker 1: Kirkwood Just about perseverance and staying with it and letting

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Speaker 1: things come to you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, I've definitely got the group

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02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:16,080
Speaker 7: around me. It's important that you that you have good

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02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 7: people around you to have success. And you know, honestly,

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Speaker 7: I've calmed down a little bit. I've enhanced my craft.

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Speaker 7: What used to be one hundred percent for me is

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Speaker 7: now ninety percent, and I'm able to do things in

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Speaker 7: a more consistent manner without putting so much risk or

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Speaker 7: there's not as much risk involved.

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Speaker 5: So it's all.

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Speaker 7: It all comes a little bit easier when when things

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02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 7: feel easier, right, So that's pretty much all in simple ways,

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Speaker 7: that's all it's been, right is everything has gotten a

2269
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:50,760
Speaker 7: little bit easier because I think I potentially have gotten

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02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 7: better as a driver, the team around me has gotten better,

2271
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:56,080
Speaker 7: and everything is kind of just clicking and you get

2272
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:58,600
Speaker 7: that momentum. Momentum is a real thing in any sport,

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02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 7: and that's that's what we have right now.

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Speaker 1: So instead of Chiefs Fan Steve, we're now going to

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Speaker 1: call him Kirkwood Fan Steve is that Cool's house. Good Kyle,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man again, IndyCar running twelve thirty Everything

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02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 1: gets underway on Sunday. It is the Java House Grond

2278
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:19,120
Speaker 1: Prix at Arlington and on the Java House Cold Brew

2279
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Speaker 1: Coffee guest line, he is Kyle Kirkwood driving for and

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02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:24,440
Speaker 1: Dreddi Global. Appreciate it. We'll let you get back to

2281
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 1: work and certainly appreciate the time today. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Talk to Sin.

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Speaker 1: Appreciated Kyle Kirkwood. Again. It is the Java House Grond

2284
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 1: Prix of Arlington coming up twelve thirty on Sunday. Reminder,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that will be heard on our sister

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Speaker 1: station ninety three WIBC and it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: great weekend for that. But it is time for the crossover,

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Speaker 1: I know you're at one of your favorite locations and

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Speaker 1: Coors Light making it possible today.

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Speaker 9: I've got an Allie and a Miller siding. We are

2294
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:03,320
Speaker 9: talking Joe's Grill in Castleton with COR's light. But The

2295
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 9: big question for me is are you going to South Fork?

2296
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 9: Have you been to South Fork? I'm assuming you have.

2297
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 3: You know what?

2298
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 1: There was one year where Mark James and Nick Hillman

2299
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:12,800
Speaker 1: went down there and I can't remember what I was doing.

2300
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:15,920
Speaker 1: I have not been there, not seen Jr. Yet. Maybe

2301
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 1: that'll be on the docket right your.

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Speaker 9: Favorite on the show Dallas all through those years? Everyone,

2303
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 9: who's your favorite?

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Speaker 1: Listen, you're gonna you're gonna laugh at me here. I

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02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 1: didn't watch it a lot, but there's no way in

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02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 1: our era that you did not know of Jr. And

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02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:35,760
Speaker 1: who shot him? Who did shoot him? By the way, Kristin,

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02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 1: So there's my favorite Kristens.

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Speaker 10: To Ellen's sister Kristin, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this. Somebody Herey Crosby, the

2311
02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:47,320
Speaker 1: actress Steve Shunk asked me this the other day, which

2312
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 1: is a great question. Who's the greatest Dallas cowboy of

2313
02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 1: all time? See if we give the same answer, I.

2314
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Speaker 9: Think most people of this era would probably say, what

2315
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:00,680
Speaker 9: Emma Smith, he's up there?

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02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 10: But man's that's a good one. Let me think I'll.

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02:07:07,480 --> 02:07:08,880
Speaker 1: Tell you who I went with. There's there's kind of

2318
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:10,240
Speaker 1: two different answers you can go with here.

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Speaker 9: I probably would initially have gone with like Tom Lander,

2320
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Speaker 9: the head coach over everybody else back then, because he

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02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 9: was just such he was so iconic, and that's kind

2322
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 9: of what I'm thinking of. But I would probably suggest

2323
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 9: this because he's the quarterback on the Super Bowl winning teams.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be Aikman, right, Okay, Aikman would be

2325
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Speaker 1: very high on the list.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now again age bias here, but because he was kind

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Speaker 1: of the og, I would say starback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can.

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Speaker 10: I can get that too.

2331
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 9: The most popular or the best of all time or

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02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 9: the favorite? Your favorite? You got a favorite Cowboy? I

2334
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 9: was never a Cowboys fan.

2335
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 1: I was not either. But I have to admit Tony

2336
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 1: Dorset was pretty smooth.

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Speaker 9: I have to admit that every time, because we watched

2338
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:54,560
Speaker 9: them so much in Pat summer All and this was

2339
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 9: back in the days of Pat summer All and Tom Brookshire.

2340
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 9: Every time he said Rafael Septian was pretty damn awesome, wasn't.

2341
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:06,960
Speaker 9: How about Thomas Hollywood Henderson, Yeah, that's way up there

2342
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:08,120
Speaker 9: at too tall Jones and.

2343
02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 10: Getting hot, getting high on coke and winning the lottery.

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Speaker 1: That's some nutty stuff, right, you know the I think

2345
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:17,040
Speaker 1: about that offensive line in the Landry era and how

2346
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: they would always do that on the show up and

2347
02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 1: the back down. It was pretty cool.

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Speaker 9: But I think about North Dallas forty as well, the

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Speaker 9: film from nineteen seventy nine with Nick Nolty.

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Speaker 10: They created in the image of the Dallas Cowboys other players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for example, if you were to say, like,

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Speaker 1: who's the best defensive Like somebody asked me, who's the

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Speaker 1: best defensive Cowboy of all time? Well, Dion Sanders is

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Speaker 1: not immediately associated with the Cowboys, but amongst players to

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Speaker 1: have played there, he's pretty hard to argue. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: what's that too Tall Jones and too Tall Jones good

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Speaker 1: Radio Bob Lilly. I mean there's a ton of them,

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Speaker 1: but there are Oh there's that line that HIMT. Smith

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Speaker 1: had was pretty not good too. Yeah, it was too

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Speaker 1: Newton was great. Hell, I mean Larry Allen, which Mark?

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Speaker 1: Which Martin? Is it from here? That plays there? I

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Speaker 1: always get back in Nick confused, But yeah, the one

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Speaker 1: that was a cowboy is an elite level player, no question.

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Speaker 1: All right, big show lined up and obviously being out

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Speaker 1: of Joe's pretty cool, right.

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Speaker 10: You got that right by the way to Victoria Principal.

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Speaker 9: My favorite person on Dallas, but my favorite character was

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Speaker 9: Jock Ewing the late great Jim Davis, because he had

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Speaker 9: loved his gruff, his attitude, his no nonsense stuff. He

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Speaker 9: was ready to screw over an enemy in a moment's notice.

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Speaker 9: I love me some Jock Ewing back.

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Speaker 1: Larry Hagman Dallas or I Dream a Genie? Oh whis jr.

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Speaker 10: Ewing is one of the greatest characters of all.

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Speaker 1: Time on TV. That is hard to argue, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. All right, John's up next. He is out

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Speaker 1: at Joe's. Plenty of time to get out there and

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Speaker 1: enjoy a cold core's light and his conversation. I will

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Speaker 1: be back with you coming up at noon on Monday.

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Speaker 1: And I thank you for listening to Query and Company.