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Speaker 1: It's a commercial or a PSA that did not run

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is kind of a strategy that we've

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Speaker 2: extremely expensive. Eight million dollars for thirty seconds this year.

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Speaker 2: So if you've got a brand or a business and

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Speaker 2: Bowl commercial, what a lot of places are doing is

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Speaker 2: they're producing the commercial and then releasing it on social

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Speaker 2: media on Super Bowl Sunday, trying to kind of catch

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: The placement of this commercial might have been actually better

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Speaker 1: if they played it during the Turning Point USA halftime show.

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Speaker 1: They could have gotten some legs off of that.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I think the TPUSA halftime show was commercial free

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Speaker 2: correct that being so, but maybe next year, who knows,

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Speaker 2: if they do it again next year, they might start

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Speaker 2: selling some ads during that.

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Speaker 1: So this is a spot of Epstein's survivors and here's

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Speaker 1: what they had to say.

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Speaker 3: After years of being kept apart, we're standing together, standing

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Speaker 3: standing together because this girl deserves.

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Speaker 1: The truth, because she deserves the truth, because we all

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Speaker 1: deserve the truth. Now what you're being shown is the survivors,

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Speaker 1: and their mouths are redacted.

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Speaker 2: It was a powerful commercial. Yeah, I wish it had

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Speaker 2: been air during the Super Bowl yesterday, but it did

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Speaker 2: day a year that people are interested in commercials, and

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Speaker 2: that was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So you've got this headline and this comes from our

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Speaker 1: newsgathering partners at WISH TV, and they said FBI concluded

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein wasn't running a sex trafficking ring for Powerful

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Speaker 1: Men file show. Okay, So they're saying that the FBI

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Speaker 1: reviewed the Justice Department records and investigated Epstein's finances, communications, homes,

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Speaker 1: and interviews with victims, and they found that through extensive research,

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Speaker 1: that there were not evidence that Epstein's sexually abused any

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Speaker 1: underage girls. According to this.

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Speaker 2: Article, I think what they're talking from We've got two

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Speaker 2: things here. You've got what you can prove in a

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Speaker 2: I'm sure don't, But it's what you can prove in

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Speaker 2: a court of law and what just looks awful, terrible,

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Speaker 2: creepy bad behavior. And I think that's why ultimately everybody

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Speaker 2: know if any of these people can be prosecuted because

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Speaker 2: I don't have enough evidence, and you sit there at somebody.

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Speaker 2: One of the big discussions this weekend came out Howard Lutnik,

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Speaker 2: who is Trump's Secretary of Commerce, was mentioned a lot

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Speaker 2: in the Epstein files.

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Speaker 1: Here was neighbors with them.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of discussion about Lutnik being at

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Speaker 2: Epstein's island, and there's a lot of circumstantial evidence that

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Speaker 2: looks like Howard Lutnick either did something wrong or something illegal,

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Speaker 1: So what this article is saying, though, that regardless of

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Speaker 1: all of the conspiracy narratives about an organized network of

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Speaker 1: these powerful elites. The article is saying, they're simply not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again this is coming from the FBI. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's coming from them from an official. You know, evidence

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if there's enough there to prove

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Speaker 1: So according to the Associated Press, they said videos and

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Speaker 1: photos sezed from his properties did not show abuse to

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Speaker 1: or involvement of other men. Investigators said no client list

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Speaker 1: over it. And then you have Thomas Massey and he

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Speaker 1: said that he's prepared to invoke the quote nuclear option

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to do that if the victims want me to.

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Speaker 3: They believe that the best way to get justice is

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Speaker 3: to force the DOJ to release these names. I've already

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Speaker 3: read one name in a committee with the FBI director there.

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Speaker 3: That's Jess Staley. And again he may or may not

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Speaker 3: willing to do that. But again, the best way is

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Speaker 1: So he warned that if Pam Bondi's Justice Department refuses

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Speaker 1: to release them, he'll read the names publicly himself. He

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Speaker 1: even put a post out on x and said what

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Speaker 1: file do you want me to look at? And then

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Speaker 1: he said, don't you know, just like if you see

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Speaker 1: had millions and millions of views in thousands of comments.

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Speaker 2: This is why people love Thomas Massey because, look, we

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Speaker 2: talked about earlier. Look, if you want to be outraged

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Speaker 2: about bad Bunny performing at the halftime show the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: knock yourself out. Not something I'm outraged about. I try

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Speaker 2: and save my outrage for things that really matter, and

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Speaker 2: this really matters. And man, this is why people love

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Speaker 2: Thomas Massey because he is just not stopping. It's not

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Speaker 2: enough for them to slow roll these files out and

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Speaker 2: make them heavily redacted. He's talking to these victims. He's

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Speaker 2: trying to fight for them, and he's not afraid to

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Speaker 2: push back against Donald Trump and Pam Bondi and other

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Speaker 2: get this information out there, fine, I'm gonna walk myself

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Speaker 2: right down to the DOJ. I'm gonna get that and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start reading names. So we can do it.

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Speaker 2: As Donald Trump said, we can either do it the

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Speaker 2: easy way or we can do it the hard way.

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Speaker 2: And again, this is why we need more people like

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Speaker 2: challenge the institutions, to challenge the people in power, to

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Speaker 2: Epstein case can't get any worse, This can't get any worse,

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Speaker 2: can't get any bigger, can't get any worse. Oh yeah

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Speaker 2: it does. It gets worse. So so transparency is what

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Speaker 2: we need in this. And I love Thomas Massey fighting

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Speaker 2: for these victims families.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he better be careful though, because there are people

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Speaker 1: who don't want that information getting out.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And and so when when when you want to

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Speaker 2: challenge the establ establishment, when you want to challenge powerful people,

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Speaker 2: you put a target on your back. Which is another

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Speaker 2: reason to give props to Thomas Massey because it's not

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Speaker 2: I would I would just love to see him walk

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Speaker 2: down to the DOJ, get these documents unredacted and just

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Speaker 2: get on, get on the you know, on the floor

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Speaker 2: of Congress, and start reading them off