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Speaker 1: They're using your resources, your money that you aren't actually

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Speaker 4: Okay, So they have appointed five people, all Republicans. There

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Speaker 4: So this is very much like gos, like setting the

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Speaker 1: He admitted it's not happening. Yeah, And it's all fun

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Speaker 1: By the way, yeh bo, if you'd like to have

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Speaker 4: So, the Indianapolis International Airport, they hit a historic high

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll read it. It's Peter is the guy's name.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, he says, Hey, Rob, you and I have

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Speaker 4: Oh, if you need a guy in this department, I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's saying, Well, the goal is to make avery

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Speaker 1: You know, where you never missed a connecting flight, where

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Speaker 1: the bronze the big announcement on related to utility bills.

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Speaker 1: About this new advocate for your utility bills. It's Utility

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Speaker 1: of Paloza with Nicki Kelly.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, it's.

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Speaker 2: Kennelly Casey on ninety three w IBC.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Casey, I know we touched on this earlier, but

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Speaker 3: have you heard the good news?

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Speaker 1: What's that there's a new person that's in charge of

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Speaker 1: trying to ensure we get screwed less than our utility bills.

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Speaker 2: And do utility consumer counselor? Is that what you're talking about?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 1: I was a small boy, That's what I desired to

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Speaker 1: be a utility consumer counselor.

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Speaker 4: Supposed to be Indiana's rate payer advocate. Yeah, this person

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Speaker 4: will be advocating for us.

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Speaker 2: I hope so.

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Speaker 3: Guy hasn't been doing so well.

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Speaker 1: Let's find out about this person and how they're going

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Speaker 1: to help us. Joining us on the WAWC hotline. She's

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the business. Nicki Kelly from

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Capitol Chronicle Nikki Kelly.

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Speaker 7: Hello, good morning.

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Speaker 3: All right, so tell.

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Speaker 1: Us about this new person that is supposed to make

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Speaker 1: all my wildest utility dreams come true as a ratepayer.

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Speaker 7: Look, yeah, so I think the OUCC, the Office of

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Speaker 7: Utility Consumer Counselor, has been advocating for rate payers four years.

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Speaker 7: The problem is is that the people actually making the decisions,

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Speaker 7: the commission members, have been ignoring them. So you know,

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Speaker 7: we're going to get someone new on the counselors counselor side,

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Speaker 7: but we're also going to get three new i u

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's sort of like this person who was

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Speaker 1: there before, This lady that's there now, Abby Gray, Right,

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Speaker 1: that's her name. Yes, the bill was Bill Fine? Was

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Speaker 1: that the guy's name that was there before?

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 7: Yep?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're telling me he was advocating on my behalf.

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Speaker 1: He was just being ignored in the order in which

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I basically submit, you know, if

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Speaker 7: of stuff. You know, fighting against these major rate increases,

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Speaker 7: and it has become like a little game in recent

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Speaker 7: they'll permit a little, you know, to make it look good,

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Speaker 7: but then they approved still a big rate increase. So,

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Speaker 7: like I said, I think Abby Gray. I have friends

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Speaker 7: But I think the bigger change will be the actual

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Speaker 7: know why to fill that. And now two other people

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Speaker 1: Nicky Kelly from the Capitol Chronicle as our guest, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the latest with energy policy. So help me

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Speaker 1: square this because nobody is more level headed than you. Yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: we should do something together sometime. NICKI Kelly will be

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Speaker 1: like a wild odd couple because you're the most level

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Speaker 3: Here's my problem. Everything he did legislatively.

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Speaker 1: Or from the power of his pen in his first

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Speaker 1: The incentives for the four new data sitters that'll use

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Speaker 1: all the power, the ability for the utilities to get

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Speaker 1: eight reimbursed, all this money when they doctor Frankenstein, the

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Speaker 1: new you know, energy initiatives, like, all of this stuff

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Speaker 1: means the bills will prbably going up. But then he

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Speaker 1: Help me make sense of all of this.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think he and lawmakers are seeing, you know,

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Speaker 7: people are talking about utility prices, not anything else. And

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Speaker 7: so I think, you know, we have to sit down

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Speaker 7: because I don't think they have any choice. And a

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Speaker 7: you know, the consequence of decisions lawmakers have been making

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Speaker 7: for years to allow them to recoop costs. Recoop costs,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you think if you had had a little

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Speaker 1: take action on this. This will be a bunch of

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Speaker 1: I don't see how they're going to do anything but

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Speaker 7: Well on the data center issue, I think. I think

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Speaker 7: the law basically says they have to generate eighty percent

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Speaker 7: that would be a huge difference, I think, but that

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Speaker 4: Nikki Kelly is joining us from Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Okay,

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Speaker 4: back to the Utility Consumer counselor BRON has directed Gray

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Speaker 4: to ease the burden on rate payers. How can she

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Speaker 4: possibly do this because you had mentioned most of this

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but they work in tandem, you know. Basically, when

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Speaker 7: And I think Braun's things specifically said we need to

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Speaker 7: So part of it is just an approach and a

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Speaker 7: And I think he's hoping that will make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Kelly for the Capital Chronicles. Our guest, all right,

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Speaker 1: another story that thought was interesting, And look, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to use overzealous phrases like highly fraudulent or trying

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Speaker 1: are all in on requesting these names of five hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty five thousand registered hoo's your voters, and they

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Speaker 1: sent this to the federal government to verify citizenship. So

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Speaker 1: before we get into this, because you wrote the article

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Speaker 1: on this, is there any documented cases that you can

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Speaker 1: twenty five years of coordinated wide scale voter fraud in

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Speaker 1: the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 7: Not wid scale. There of course examples that have come

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Speaker 7: up over the years. You know, people are human and

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Speaker 7: one two, three vote kind of level, but not widescale.

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Speaker 1: No, because that's what they try to make it out

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Speaker 1: like that, like they control everything. But yet they still

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Speaker 1: giving them the impression that, like these elections could be

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Speaker 1: just misinterpreting what they're saying on a it seems like

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Speaker 7: No. I think that's generally what we've seen from Republicans nationwide, right,

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Speaker 7: we've definitely seen that, and they focus a lot on

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Speaker 1: All right, So tell us about this lawsuit, because, like

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Speaker 1: I said, Roketa Diego, they're trying to get in some

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Speaker 1: Then this group, it was the Indiana Citizen in fact,

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Speaker 1: They basically initially told them to bugger off, then told them,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So, you know, the Indiana Citizen filed an Apple request,

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Speaker 1: Because the former public Access counselor sided with the people

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Speaker 3: Diego were like, oh, that's cute. Yeah, we'll just keep

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, so, yeah, the former public counselor said you can't

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Speaker 7: have the list. You can't take pictures of the list like.

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Speaker 2: Way, that seems like that's a theme in that off.

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Speaker 1: Wait, mikkyil, you're telling me the Secretary of State said

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Speaker 1: you could see some look shady document is kind of

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're telling us?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then they retracted that even that, Oh, the

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Speaker 7: then they retracted that, and then they filed a new

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Speaker 7: I guess they're asking the new Public Access counselor Jenny Ruby, yes,

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Speaker 7: to basically reconsider the case.

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Speaker 1: All right, find them over at Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com.

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Speaker 3: Nikki Kelly, you're the best. Thank you, all right, have

444
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Speaker 3: a good night.

445
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Speaker 2: Yeah you too.

446
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Speaker 4: It's Kennily Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to talk about the Epstein stuff, yes,

448
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: because I was fascinating yesterday what went on in which

449
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: the victims now have spoken to Congress behind closed doors

450
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: and then they had.

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Speaker 3: The big press rally yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: It's very interesting to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the victims were claiming that the government

455
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: was shielding wealthy, powerful individuals from accountability by keeping all

456
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Speaker 4: of the documents secret.

457
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Speaker 1: No kidding, you don't say none of this makes any sense.

458
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: It's the smell test of none of this makes any sense.

459
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Speaker 3: And what I mean by.

460
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: That is you have this guy who clearly was involved

461
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Speaker 1: in some very bad behavior.

462
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Speaker 3: Now keep in mind Epstein.

463
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Speaker 1: Before all this stuff broke, was charged with some very

464
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Speaker 1: serious stuff before and then ended up pleading it down

465
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Speaker 1: and served a very brief jail sentence. I believe it

466
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: wasn't like he wasn't on people's radars. It wasn't like

467
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: this came out of out of nowhere. This guy was

468
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Speaker 1: a just evil, evil, horrible human being who did horrible

469
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Speaker 1: things to young women, and we're just acting like he

470
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Speaker 1: did it all for himself and no one else was involved.

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Speaker 1: And that's utterly ridiculous. And people say, if you won't

472
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Speaker 1: come clean on the most basic of stuff, why wouldn't

473
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Speaker 1: we think the absolute worst?

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Speaker 2: So Massey and Conna.

475
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Speaker 1: Thomas Massey represented it from Kentucky Republican Row Kanna Democratic

476
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Speaker 1: represented from California.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're urging the Trump administration to release all the

478
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Speaker 4: federal files related to this. But Donald Trump and the

479
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Speaker 4: Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, they opposed the resolution

480
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Speaker 4: and Johnson supports an alternative bill which is focused on

481
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Speaker 4: expanding the existing House over Site Committee investigation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the thing the man Trump is

483
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Speaker 3: not helping.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Trump continues to call this all a hoax, Right,

485
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Speaker 1: he continues to make it all about himself, and people

486
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: are looking at this going, dude, it's not a hoax.

487
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: Epstein was a real dude. He really did some stuff.

488
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Speaker 1: For you to act like that didn't happen, this is

489
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Speaker 1: not Russia Gate, Like, we know this guy lived, we

490
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Speaker 1: know there are these women who are victims. We know

491
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just for Epstein's own personal pleasure. And for

492
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Speaker 1: you to say it's a hoax, people are like one,

493
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Speaker 1: totally disrespectful, totally heartless, and you come off as a

494
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: complete ass because you're saying this because you're somehow linked

495
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Speaker 1: into it.

496
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Speaker 3: Not linked into.

497
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Speaker 1: It in the sense of he was doing any abusing

498
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Speaker 1: of women, but linked in to it in the fact

499
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Speaker 1: that it is clear that there was some relationship between

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Speaker 1: Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of clips that I want to play

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 4: The first one is the attorney for the Epstein victims

504
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 4: saying that Donald Trump actually helped his clients back in

505
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Speaker 4: two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: I'll go first, and.

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Speaker 6: Then I'll let them.

508
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Speaker 8: They're much more important than me. But I don't understand

509
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 8: why it's a hostile act. I can tell you that

510
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 8: I talked to President Clinton, I'm sorry, President Trump, back

511
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 8: in two thousand and nine, and several times after that.

512
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Speaker 6: He didn't think that it was a hoax.

513
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: Then, in fact, he helped me.

514
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 8: He got on the phone, he told me things that

515
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 8: were helping our investigation. Now our investigation wasn't looking into him,

516
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 8: but he was helping us. Then he didn't treat this

517
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 8: as a hoax. So at this point in time, I

518
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 8: would hope that he would revert back to what he

519
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 8: was saying to get elected, which is I want transparency.

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Speaker 8: This about face that occurred. None of us understand it.

521
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 8: I don't understand how this is an issue that's even

522
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Speaker 8: up for debate. How do you not stand behind these

523
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 8: women after you've heard their stories and know that hundreds

524
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 8: of them were abused and it was only because files

525
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 8: are being kept in secrecy the world to know who

526
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 8: he is, who protected him.

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00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I've said this before, and this is the perfect example.

528
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is basically Michael Scott from the Office, like

529
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: he's a real Michael Scott. You ever watched The Office,

530
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: so most people, I'm sure have that hear my voice

531
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: just in case you can't.

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00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 3: Steve Carell played this.

533
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: They call it a mockumentary type deal where it's a

534
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: comedy but there's no laugh track. And Steve Carell played

535
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: this just wacky guy that ran a paper company. And

536
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: one of the things about the Michael Scott character is

537
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: he was so incredibly self absorbed, but yet almost naive

538
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: or unaware to the nauseating way that he was self absorbed.

539
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: And there was There's an episode where Michael Scott accidentally

540
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: he makes bacon for himself every morning in bed, but

541
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: he's too lazy to leave the bed, so he plugs

542
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: in his George Foreman grill.

543
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 3: Next to his bed.

544
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he accidentally steps on the grill and burns

545
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: his foot, and he makes it out to be this

546
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: like you know, he's been suffered you know, third degree

547
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: burns in a fire or something, and reality is like,

548
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: they're like, just put some you know, cream on it,

549
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: it'll be fine. But he's hobbling around on crutches.

550
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 2: He got his feet all wrapped up.

551
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: And in the same episode, Dwight who's his assistant, suffers

552
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: a serious head injury while going to check on on Michael,

553
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: and they have to take him to the hospital. Well,

554
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: Steve Carrell, who this guy supposed to be Dwight is

555
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: supposed to be like his best good buddy, is so

556
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: inconvenience that he has to go help his friend. And

557
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 1: then when they get to the hospital, they do what's called,

558
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: is it, the cat scan to see if there's any

559
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: head injuries. While he's there, he's trying to put his

560
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: foot in the cat scan machine because this writ being

561
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: told by multiple people this is not an issue. It's

562
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: just a small burn. It'll be fine, put some cream

563
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: on it, he'll be okay. He's so absorbed with himself.

564
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Everything is about him, and this is trump right. Nobody's saying.

565
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: No reasonable person is saying that you were on Epstein Island.

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00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: We've kind of moved past that.

567
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: I think that's been even these women refuted like, hey,

568
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: nobody did anything with Trump.

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00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: It's all been like, you're in the clear. And instead of.

570
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Looking at that going hey to do anything, let me

571
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: help you however I can, because he's implicated from the

572
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: stamer of his relationship with Epstein. Yeah, like not that

573
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: you did anything nefarious with these women or amuse young

574
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: girls or anything. But he's so self absorbed he can't

575
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: stand any sort of criticism, which the criticism is, hey,

576
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: you were kind of paling around to some degree, allegedly

577
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: with a pretty rotten dude.

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00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

579
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: He has to make everything about him. He's Michael Scott

580
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: sticking his foot in the cat scan machine, and he

581
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: just can't stand the fact that he is in any

582
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: way looks bad.

583
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: And so he's being.

584
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: An obstructionist and totally demeaning these women and these serious things, yeah,

585
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: versus just being a helper being done with it.

586
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: He's gone from release the files and a campaign promise

587
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 4: to now it's a total hoax. But as you mentioned,

588
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: some of these victims said, you know, noe, Donald Trump

589
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: was not there doing anything bad.

590
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 9: I do have to ask, and I know, and it's

591
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 9: just something that I think were compelled to at this

592
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 9: moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions,

593
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 9: aroun a part in did anybody see or hear of

594
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Speaker 9: the president himself doing anything inappropriate as a related to

595
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein?

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00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, so it's that.

597
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: And then somebody said this in the YouTube chat and

598
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: the right. The other aspect of this is Trump knows

599
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: whatever Epstein was. And by the way, because the government

600
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: won't come clean on what he was, there is no

601
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: theory that's too extreme. Some people wanted to mean people

602
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: if you said, oh, he was connecting to Masad or whatever, Well,

603
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: to those people, why won't the government just tell us

604
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: what he was? Until the government is honest, then there

605
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: is no theory too extreme because there's a reason there.

606
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: There's a reason. I'm not saying he was Masad. I'm

607
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: saying until they come clean with that, every theory is

608
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: valid because they're clearly protecting something very big about this guy.

609
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's bigger than just the people that

610
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: he engaged with. So if any person like to have

611
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: that conversation with me, I'd be more than willing to

612
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: have it.

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00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: One of the victims said that she was taken on

614
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: a trip to Africa with President Clinton and other notable figures.

615
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: A lot of these victims and survivors, they say that

616
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: they're going to be releasing their own client list. The

617
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: question that keeps coming up is why now, Why haven't

618
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: you before? And I think part of the answer to

619
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 4: that is because they were afraid and.

620
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Speaker 2: They'll get more protection.

621
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Speaker 3: No nobody.

622
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Speaker 1: The problem Casey now is there have been so many deceptions,

623
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: so many what are perceived as lies.

624
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna believe whatever you show him anyway.

625
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: Now, everybody believes there's something massive here, and until that

626
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: massive thing is revealed, they're just going to assume you're

627
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: still hiding things.

628
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: From right, You're still covering something up.

629
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: Hammer's next.

630
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: It's Kendell and Casey on ninety three WYBC.

631
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Speaker 6: Jesse.

632
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: It's gonna take too long to get to the book.

633
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 10: Rob starts dancing because you're like a pretty young dude,

634
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 10: but you dance like Rodney Dangerfield and Cadgshi. We need

635
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 10: to do another wedding where we get robbed out on

636
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 10: the dance floor.

637
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 3: You and I were.

638
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: That's Jason Hammer, by the way, from the Hammer and

639
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: Nigel Show.

640
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: You and I were, Let's dance You and I were.

641
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: Texting last year we went to that wedding. We said, look,

642
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: we've been doing weddings for years. You obviously more than I,

643
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: but sometimes I was your evil assistant wedding DJ. Yeah,

644
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: as a wedding DJ. And we said, we just want

645
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: to go to a wedding. Invite us to your wedding

646
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: and we'll try to come. We're just gonna hang out.

647
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 10: We're going to bring a gift, but you know, we

648
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 10: want to eat your food, drink your pooze, and mingle

649
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 10: with everybody and have a good time.

650
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: And we went to a wedding. Where was that? It

651
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: was on the state line. Somewhere was a green Where

652
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: was it that we were at the state line? It

653
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: was close to the state line.

654
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: You guys had a good time.

655
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: We had a good time. Even know where you were. Well,

656
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Speaker 3: I kept trying to remember. I go so many places.

657
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 10: Right, there's the day of the IU Michigan football games, right,

658
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 10: and they have the game on the screen somewhere fability.

659
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you said you'd like to do

660
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: that again this year.

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Speaker 3: I think it'd be fun.

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Speaker 10: So if you are having a wedding coming up sometime

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Speaker 10: in the near future, I know my Saturdays. I've got

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Speaker 10: a couple of weekends where I'm traveling. But Rob never

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Speaker 10: does anything. So if you have a wedding coming up

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Speaker 10: in even September or October, and you'd like Rob and

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Speaker 10: I in casey, if you want to come to to

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Speaker 10: crash your.

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Speaker 3: Wedding, we will bring a gift, but we're going to

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Speaker 3: do all the wedding stuff. Yeah, we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: to everybody, or get out on the dance floor.

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Speaker 2: Might even mix some drinks and cots working.

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Speaker 3: I will drink a mixed drink, but.

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Speaker 6: I asked you to be Hey, Rob, come back here

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Speaker 6: and make a drink for us.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't do it for then you gotta give them

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Speaker 1: a gift and make drinks at the bar. Yes, that

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Speaker 1: seems like nothing in my favor, which is how every

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Speaker 1: entanglement I get in with you usually ends up us.

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Speaker 10: I paint you moron, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 1: I did a lot of work for that money. I

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Speaker 1: did a lot of work for the money. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: really did nothing.

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Speaker 3: Rob's here right support.

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Speaker 10: But if you got a wedding coming up on a

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Speaker 10: Saturday in October or September and they're big IBC fans, yeah,

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Speaker 10: and you want us to just come by hang out

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Speaker 10: and bs. We be open to it. So send me

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Speaker 10: an email and we'll look at the dates that if

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Speaker 10: we can coordinate something, we'll make it work. Hammer and

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Speaker 10: Nigel at WIBC dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, very good. Okay, football starts tonight. NFL football starts.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is on.

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Speaker 6: We got the NFL season back tonight.

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Speaker 10: We will have a new gambling podcast coming out right

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Speaker 10: around one o'clock this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It's the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Edition of the Degenerates next Door.

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Speaker 10: Anywhere you get your podcasts, I know that's like the

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Speaker 10: thing you have to say.

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Speaker 3: Right, but it's available anywhere.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, anywhere you get a podcast, subscribe Degenerates next Door.

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Speaker 3: Rob and I.

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Speaker 10: We crunch the numbers, we use AI math, we get

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Speaker 10: everything together, and we also work with two professional gamblers

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Speaker 10: and we make them give you free plays.

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Speaker 1: So our game of the week this week, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that everybody's picking, is the big one, the Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Night game, right, yes, the Ravens at the Bills, Ravens

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Speaker 3: at the Bills.

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Speaker 10: We always make our game of the week the biggest

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Speaker 10: game and a game people actually want to watch.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And then you and I will take an additional game.

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Speaker 1: You're mister Thursday Night. I'm mister Monday Night. I get

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Speaker 1: this joy of the Bears and the Vikings. Hey, thanks

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Speaker 1: for that, Listen.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to give too many things away, but

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Speaker 10: had that not been the Monday game, it would have

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Speaker 10: been one that I would play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I basically stole your bet. Fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 3: I've got action tonight, big point spread.

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Speaker 10: Cowboys are getting eight and a half at Philadelphia, a

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Speaker 10: lot of points taking on the Eagle Eagle a lot

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Speaker 10: of points yet, But I will have a play on

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Speaker 10: that and a couple of different prop bets that you

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Speaker 10: can make tonight as well.

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Speaker 6: And when we drop the new.

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Speaker 10: Podcast, all your favorite segments are back, we will do

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Speaker 10: the prop shop, mister Monday Night. Our professionals are each

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Speaker 10: going to pick the game of the week and a

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Speaker 10: game of their choosing, and again follow it on the

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Speaker 10: Twitter accounts. We're trying to grow that out a little bit.

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Speaker 10: So if you have Twitter x whatever you want to

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Speaker 10: call it at gambling stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and think about Look, I've always reasoned sports betting

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Speaker 1: like this. If you got some self control, now you

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Speaker 1: have no self control. Now that if you're the other

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Speaker 1: two guys. The pros have no self control either. But

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Speaker 1: for people like me, let's say you, Betsy, where else

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Speaker 1: are you getting even if you lose three hours of

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Speaker 1: entertainment for five bucks?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean if you do two college games, two pro games,

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Speaker 1: that's twelve hours of entertainment the max. You could be

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Speaker 1: out of twenty bucks if you lost all your bets.

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Speaker 10: If you had the worst gambling day ever, you're out

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Speaker 10: in twenty bucks. If you bet like Rob, now, if

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Speaker 10: you bet like me, you may be out a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit more than right, no risk, no reward.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: Your wife ever gotten angry at you for losing a bet?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever bet so much that she got angry

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Speaker 1: at you?

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Speaker 10: It's cute when new married people try to get me

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Speaker 10: a lecture. Rob, You're gonna learn this as you get older.

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Speaker 10: It's about leverage, right. I'm willing to let all of

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Speaker 10: these Amazon purchases come to my house, all of these

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Speaker 10: trips to the spa and the nail place. I say,

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Speaker 10: go ahead, look beautiful by your stuff. But I don't

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Speaker 10: want to hear a single word when I'm betting on

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Speaker 10: Western Kentucky and Toledo this week, Because that's the guy

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Speaker 10: with the guy with the name right Aick mcgiver.

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Speaker 6: He's the quarterback of Western.

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Speaker 3: Because that's a strong it's.

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Speaker 1: Like a Homer Simpson name when he was choosing someone

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Speaker 1: an anonymous.

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Speaker 10: Name, Max Power Maverick mcguiver. What an awesome name to

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Speaker 10: be a college quarterback. Like, if you can't get chicks

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Speaker 10: with that type of name on campus.

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Speaker 2: Or if you can't get it done, there's no hope

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Speaker 2: for the rest of.

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Speaker 6: Us, and that dude can't get it done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's it.

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Speaker 1: You make an interesting point because life like what a

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Speaker 1: head start in life you get if you get a

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Speaker 1: cool name. Now he gets stuck with, you know, Thurston

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Speaker 1: Howe or Hugh Janis.

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Speaker 2: Harrison Right.

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Speaker 10: I was high school class president and I used to

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Speaker 10: have to go to all these like events, you know,

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Speaker 10: back in the day. I think he was from Warren Central,

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Speaker 10: the kid that was in charge of their student council.

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Speaker 10: Swear to God, last name Whacker, first name, Pete, oh

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Speaker 10: boy the way, oh yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: If you go by the full name, he becomes Peter

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Speaker 1: last night, so Baddy can't even say it.

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid to.

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Speaker 10: I've been talking to a few times what.

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Speaker 3: Are we doing this afternoon? Hey, you're gonna come by

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Speaker 3: and go off the rails. Right.

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Speaker 10: You went on like a tweet storm last night against

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Speaker 10: Governor Braun.

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Speaker 3: Were you drunk?

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Speaker 6: There was like one right after the other, like like

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Speaker 6: I do that all the time.

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Speaker 3: Now that's some big deal to you.

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Speaker 10: No, I just noticed it last night, Like I didn't

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Speaker 10: know if you were pulling a Nigel and drunk tweeting.

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Speaker 6: So we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, sammer It is Kendell and Casey on ninety three WIDC.

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Speaker 3: Mom call me

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Speaker 6: Long distance yesterday