1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: So Bovino is out and home and is in. And 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: that's supposed to be a very very big deal. It's 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: supposed to be. 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 3: A major story. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the biggest thing that ever happened. And 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: they can't believe what it is that this means. In 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: Trump He's he's giving in and he's acquiescing and it's 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: a total failure. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: And now he's talking to. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: To the Governor Tim Walls, and now he's talking to uh, 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: he's talking to the mayor Jacob fray But. 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 4: I had two very good talks. I had Jacob Frye 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: and I had Governor Waltz, and I mean they were 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 4: they were great calls. So let's see how they reported. 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: But they were very nice calls, very respectful. 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: So is there a possibility President Trump of some type 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 5: of compromise. I read that some of the guard and 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 5: we leave in the state of Minnesota, some type of 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 5: compromise to I guess, make those guys feel like they're 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: in charge help us. 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well we're I think so, yeah, I mean, 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: I think so what we need is there criminals. You 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: know they have criminals, and all I said, just give 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: us your criminals. And if you give us the criminals, 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: it all goes away. They're there to pick up murders. 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw it, but it was 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 4: a couple of days ago now and said crime is 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: the lowest in the history of our country, the recorded 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 4: history of our country. That's a big statement. That's because 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: of us. That's because we go into cities and towns. 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: Usually we're embraced. Sometimes we're not. Chicago is like pulling 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: teeth with Pritzker and with the mayor, the mayor of Chicago, 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: low Iq person and usually we're embraced, but sometimes we're not. 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: And when we're not, it just makes. 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: It makes it much harder, makes it tremendously harder when 38 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: you you have people who are more interested in thwarting 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: ice and supporting a legal immigration and trying to tear 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: down the country than they are in people actually being protected. Now, 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: I forget sometimes if I say, hello, Tony Katz, the 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: show is Tony Katz today. 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: I hope you're staying warm out there. 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: It is very very cold in major parts of the country, 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: including where I live, and certainly in Minneapolis. But a 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: lot of people want to make a lot out of 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: this switch. Baveno is the chief of Border Patrol. Homan 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: Tom Homan is the Border Zar. The switch is, let's 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: call it political. You have two shootings that have taken place, 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: two people killed because of shootings, I should say, and 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: there's massive pressure, and you look at the tactics and 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: people are like, oh, I don't like that. They favor, 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: at least if you were to look at polling, the 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: idea of removing the legal immigrants, but they don't favor 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: what's happening here. 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: Well, what did they think was gonna happen? How did 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: they think this was going to go? 58 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: Did you think the illegal immigrants were just going to 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: give themselves up? And there's been plenty of self deportations, 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: But do you think that was going to be the 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: case for the criminal element, the violent element? 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: Do you think that was going to be the case 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: for the. 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: Violent left, attacking ice agents, attacking where they are in hotels, 65 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: bloodying ice officers, biting the fingertips off. 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: Of ice officers. Yeah, you didn't. 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: Maybe the problem is you're actually witnessing how the sausage 68 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: gets made. That's a really ugly thing to say, Tony, 69 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: an ugly thing to say two people died. I think 70 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: we should be very wary of that, or very aware 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: of that. We should be very aware of the fact 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: that two people died, one person who did not listen 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: to instructions, one person who put themselves in the mix. 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: And in both cases I still say investigate because maybe 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: they're not good shoots, and maybe based on the policies 76 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: of Immigrations and Customs enforcement, those policies weren't he too. 77 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: And those officers who don't adhere and put to it policy, 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: if they do not adhere to policy, they have to 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: deal with the consequences. 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: They are not above it, not by any stretch. 81 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: If you don't want real consequences for your actions, don't 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: be an ICE agent, don't. 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: Be border patrol, don't be law enforcement. Work a dairy queen. 84 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: But if we want to talk about having to deal 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 2: with consequences of actions, those people engaged in violence against 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: ICE agents, tracking ICE agents, trying to intimidate and impede 87 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: ICE agents. 88 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: Why aren't they in jail? Which is why I say 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 3: that I do not think the mission should change at all. 90 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Whether there could be a tactical change often a tactical 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: change in a battle. But if that tactical change does 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: not involve arresting those people who are engaged in violence 93 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: against ICE agents, we're doing it all wrong. I'll say 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 2: it again, for the people in the chiefs, arrest everyone 95 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: who is in the country illegally and arrest those people 96 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: engage in acts of violence against ICE. Do it now, 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: do it today, do it tomorrow, do it the next day. 98 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: Do not stop. Do not stop. 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: The chat room has someone telling me, I'm I'm on 100 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: the wrong side of history. 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: What's the wrong side? First of all, what a silly bit. 102 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: Of commentary there? The wrong side of history? That's a 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: that's what heck of a of a statement, that says 104 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of nothing. What's the wrong side here? 105 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 2: Believing that the law should be applied and upheld? What's 106 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: the wrong side here? Believing that those people engage in 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: Unamerican activities going not just opposed to what ICE is doing, 108 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: but violently fighting them, they should somehow be left alone 109 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: as if they're freedom fighters. They are not, not in 110 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: the slightest, not for a second. 111 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: No, maybe it's hard. 112 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: For some people to accept the fact that what we 113 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: are witnessing from these leftists is not protest. But let 114 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: me say it again, for the people in the chief seats, 115 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: it's not protest. It's nowhere near protest. Attacking an ICE 116 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: officer is not protest. If you think that you're wrong, 117 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: let's break this down a little bit further. 118 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: I'll say it slower. 119 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: Protest your government all day, protest their actions unquestionable. March 120 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 2: you go right ahead, stand on the street, corner, blog 121 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: or write or create videos, have concerts, all sorts of things. 122 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: Physically stop law enforcement from doing their job, not to 123 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: a protest, and you should be arrested for it. 124 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: Now at that moment, we're you're not. 125 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: Willing to accept the fact there's a difference between protest 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: and physically assaulting an ICE agent. There's no more having 127 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: a conversation with those people. Those people are willfully ignorant. 128 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: They don't want conversation. What they want is all or nothing. 129 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: And I have come to the conclusion that I'm going 130 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: to give you nothing. 131 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: You get nothing. 132 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: What is it? 133 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: What does it matter what you say the wrong side 134 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: of history. You're on the side of attacking ICE agents. 135 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Shawirdo I said the shooting should be investigated and if 136 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: policy was not followed, those agents are gonna have to 137 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: deal with the consequences, and that could very well include 138 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: jail time. 139 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: One thousand percent. 140 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: But you don't get too physically a cost ice agents. 141 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: You don't get to intimidate, you don't get to like 142 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: pin in their cars so they can't move. You think 143 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: that's advocating for a police state? What do you think 144 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: it is these people are doing? The left has decided 145 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: do everything we want, or we will be violent. Act 146 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: the way we tell you to, or we will be violent. 147 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: Don't speak out, or we will be violent. Where do 148 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: you think the police state is coming from? Who do 149 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: you think you're kidding with your lines of nonsense. Who 150 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: do you think this works on? Well, admittedly it does 151 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: work on some percentage of the population, but not here. 152 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: So why do you come at these stronger? 153 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: But maybe do it without the posturing and without the 154 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: sloganeering and get into the heart of the matter. You 155 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: want the illegal immigrant to be able to stay, say 156 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: the words you want the society where there is no 157 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: law and order, where you do indeed defund the police. 158 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: And somehow you think everything's going to be all right. 159 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: We've already proven that that doesn't work. They said, we're 160 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: going to defund the police. And then they defunded the police, 161 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: and they said, ah crap, we defunded the police when 162 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: we need them, and they refunded the police. The left 163 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: favors the ice agent being assaulted. They favor allowing the 164 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: illegal immigrant to stay, and they favor saying nothing about 165 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: their side, only that the rights should acquiesce, that the 166 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: independent and the modern should acquiesce, that young Americans gen 167 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: z should acquiesce to their monstrosity view, their attack view, 168 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: their violent view, and maybe we shouldn't say anything, we 169 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: shouldn't speak out, and that way we won't get hurt. 170 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: That's their argument. That's the society that they want. Protesters 171 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: can protest violence. People need to be arrested. And that's 172 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: what I said, Why are aren't we doing that? And 173 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: that's what I expect from Tom Homan. That's what I 174 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: want from Tom Homan. I don't expect any change in 175 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: going after people here illegally. And President Trump says he 176 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: spoke to Governor Wallas and he spoke to Mayor Frey, 177 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: and I want the people who are here illegally and 178 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: we want to get them off the streets. Do I 179 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: really believe that that Fray and Walls are going to 180 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: work with him? Not for a second, not a chance. 181 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: Do I believe another having some videos about all of 182 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: a sudden you see Minneapolis's finest on the streets, well 183 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: that I'd love to be wrong. That'd be great, that'd 184 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: be great if they're actually going to do something. 185 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: But how do they do that? 186 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: Jacob Fray, the mayor of Minneapolis, is the guy who 187 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: said Ice, get the blank out of Minneapolis. This is 188 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: the guy who cries over George Floyd. This is a 189 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: guy who puts out ads in other languages to get 190 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: to get voters and a p and and kind of 191 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: endear himself to the Somali community. This is not somebody 192 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: who is going to be able to turn away from 193 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: his leftist progressive bona fides and all of a sudden 194 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: work with law enforcement to get rid of illegal immigrants. 195 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls, You think Governor Tim Walls is all 196 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: of a sudden going to be a guy who says, Okay, 197 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: now I'm. 198 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: In let's uh, let's go about getting. 199 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: Rid of of of these of these terrible people who 200 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: are in the country illegally. 201 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. Let's go make that happen. The same 202 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: guy who makes this comparison. 203 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 6: We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses, 204 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 6: afraid to go outside. Many of us grew up reading 205 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 6: that story of Anne Frank. Somebody's going to write that 206 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 6: children's story about Minnesota, and they're one person who can end. 207 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: The Holocaust Museum is already taken that despicable comment to 208 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: task like this is somehow anyway comparable the Holocaust and 209 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: removing illegal immigrants from the United States. But they'll throw 210 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: anything out there. They don't care about decency, they don't 211 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: care about the facts, they don't care about history. 212 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: They don't care. 213 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: And the more they scream, the more they get angry, 214 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: the more the trolls come after me, the less it matters. 215 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: The argument before us is are we a nation of 216 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: laws or not? And what the left is saying is no, 217 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: We are a nation of emotion, and their emotion is 218 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: a violent emotion. And they're saying that you should give 219 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: in to their violence, and if you do, then everything 220 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: will stop. Put there, they'll be ready to be violent 221 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: if you should even think of disagreeing with them. I say, 222 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: we disagree with them, right, now I think that the 223 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: United States and President Trump and law enforcement and ICE 224 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: needs to follow the law every step of the way, 225 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: and we need to ensure that others are following the law. 226 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: And this has to be our Israel moment to their hamas. 227 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: Hamas kills twelve hundred Israelis and assume that Israel would 228 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: engage some attack, but it would be over soon because 229 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: the world wouldn't let them keep going. And lo and behold, 230 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: they went at it for two years and finally have 231 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: every hostage back. Yesterday, for the first time since October seventh, 232 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, there were no Israelis captured alive or 233 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: killed in Gaza, eight hundred and seventy three days. 234 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: I believe it was it's a long time. 235 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: The difference with Israelness response that got everybody all sorts 236 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: of upset and then they lied about genocide, is that 237 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: they weren't going to stop. They had had enough enough 238 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: of these terrorists, low life scumbags, enough of the people 239 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: who support them. 240 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 3: They're going to suffer. We're going to put an end 241 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: to this. 242 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: We're done pretending we can try, We're done actually trying. 243 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: The cities around the Gaza envelope that would hire Palestinians 244 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: and drive into Gaza to pick people up and drive 245 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: them to work. Those were the cities that got slaughtered. 246 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: Mayors that were working to bring manufacturing to these areas, 247 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: so people in Goz that would have jobs got slaughtered 248 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: by the people they knew, the Palestinians that were brought 249 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: here for work and for opportunities, the Palestinians they had befriended. 250 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: These were the people that gave Hamas all the coordinates 251 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: and how these kibbutzers were set up, and how these 252 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: communities were. 253 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: Set up so the attack could go flawlessly. 254 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: Israeli said, We're not putting up with this anymore. And 255 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: when the world said, okay, okay, now you've got to stop, 256 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: Israeli said, no. 257 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: We're done with these people. 258 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: I put forth to Ice, to the President and to 259 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: you that our job is not to put up with 260 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: these radical violent agitators. Protesters get to protest. The First 261 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: Amendment belongs to all of us. Those engaged in violence 262 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: must be arrested on the spot. Those who are pushing 263 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: against the doors of hotels must be arrested by the hundreds. 264 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: Don't stop, not for a second. The left will scream 265 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: and they'll call you an American, and they'll call you 266 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: a fascist, and blah blah blah blah. 267 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: Shut up. 268 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: We need to show America that we know how to 269 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: follow the law and that we will where the ICE 270 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: agents involved in bad shoots. When it comes to Renee Good, 271 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: I really don't think so. But I'm not a member 272 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: of ICE, and there might be things in proced I 273 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: don't know about. When it comes to Alex pretty doesn't 274 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: look good again, there might be things I don't know about. 275 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: Investigations have to happen, and people who have not acted 276 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: properly need to be held to account. That is true 277 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: of vice, That is true of the citizen violating some 278 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: basic tenets of the social contract shore but engaged in 279 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: violence to get their political ideology through. We don't do 280 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: that here. And I don't give a damn if they're happy, 281 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: and I don't care if people are upset with how 282 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: I speak. This is what has to happen. No change 283 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: of policy, change a tactic is up to you. Arrest 284 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: every violent person attacking ICE agents and do it now. 285 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. The United States is done with the 286 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: World Health Organization. 287 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: Man still good things happening out there. I love it. 288 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: I love it. 289 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, what's going on? 290 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: Everybody? Find everything at Tony. 291 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: Kats dot com the phone number eight three three got 292 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: Tony eight three three four six eight eight six sixty nine. 293 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: Live streaming on YouTube and X Find it there. Just 294 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: search for Tony Kats, Tony at Tony kats dot com. 295 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: Email me feel free. We are ending the relationship with 296 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: the World Health Organization. President Trump last year has said 297 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: the plan was to leave, and now it is done. 298 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: These organizations, I would argue, as a matter of concept, 299 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: do create value. Even the United Nations should as a 300 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: concept create a value. But we have seen the World 301 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: Health Organization in practice. They would not condemn China. They 302 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: would not condemn their actions. They would not condemn them 303 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: knowing what was happening with COVID and not telling the world, 304 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: profiting off of it. They engaged a level of cover 305 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: up to support China. 306 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 3: Why should someone be in. 307 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: Favor of this. They did not favor science. They favored control, 308 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to vaccines. And I'm not an 309 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: anti vaccine guy. 310 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: And who must have it and how you have to 311 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: have it? In order to exist. 312 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: And not saying, listen, we have this thing that's been developed. 313 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: You'll decide whether you take it. Here's what we know 314 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: about it. 315 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: They engage no trust of the people around the globe. 316 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: And I do think it is accurate that the United 317 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: States does not reward that with our membership, our dollars, 318 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: or our prestige. 319 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: We walk away. Let's start another one. Let's try again. Now. 320 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: Will it fall into some issues and leftism and all 321 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: the rest, Absolutely, of course. But I don't mind trying 322 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: because sometimes when you try something you end up doing 323 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 2: it right. You're never going to get it right if 324 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: you don't at least try. Pulling out the World Health 325 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: Organization is. 326 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 3: A good thing. I'm glad we did it. 327 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: The UN next please, because well, this isn't doing us 328 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: any good, idea. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony 329 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: Katz today. So I have a series of stories that 330 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: I want to get to. 331 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: Usually I leave it for three more things. 332 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: That I often a couple of stories that aren't really 333 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: being talked about. But the story about Trump and Canada 334 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: I think is quite important. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 335 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: and it started with President Trump putting out a post 336 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: on truth social where he said Governor Karney thinks he's 337 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: going to make Canada drop off port for China to 338 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: send goods and products into the United States. He is 339 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: sorely mistaken, Governor Carney, right like fifty first state. 340 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: Oh, these these things are not ending people. 341 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: Tony Kats Tony Katz today, good to be here, Good 342 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: to be with you. This has to do with some 343 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: trade deal that Canada signed with China. 344 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: A lot of people were posting. 345 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: On social media that, oh, Canada has caved to Trump 346 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: and now they're not going to do the trade deal. 347 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: Now they're doing They're doing the trade deal. 348 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: And even Trump what he heard about the trade deal, 349 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: said well, listen, Canada is supposed to. 350 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: Be signing trade deal, so good for them. Which is 351 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: which is the you know proper? 352 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: Of course, other countries are gonna be signing trade deals. 353 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, one of the trade deals 354 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: being looked at right now is the trade deal between 355 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: India and the European Union, which Mody Prime Minister Modi 356 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: had as termed or coined as the mother of all deals. 357 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. And the question before 358 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: us is are we going to see moves from Trump 359 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: on tariffs because of a deal that they're making. The Dow, 360 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: by the way, taking a nice big punch to the face, 361 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: and as we have all seen, and the data shows 362 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: that if you want to lie about it, sure the. 363 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: Market can take this big punch. 364 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: And then two days later it's back and right now 365 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: it's only affecting the Dow. Now there are some other 366 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: things because Trump has been saying that we're going to 367 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: keep Medicare rates flat, and so the healthcare stocks are 368 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: also taking I think they're down like midday today, they 369 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: were down like twenty percent. I don't know where they're 370 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: gonna end because they were hoping to get more dollars 371 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: and it turns out that they might not be begetting those. 372 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: The other one is how does this deal work and 373 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: how does it affect global trade? 374 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: And in a way does it make Trump angry? 375 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: And listen, tariffs are taxes and they drive me nuts 376 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: tyres for specific purpose. I have no problem with tariffs 377 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: is a generalized principle in philosophy. Nope, not interested, haven't 378 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: been interested. I know the people who are all Trump 379 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: all the time are gonna yell at me. I know 380 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: this guys, well, Tony, they've clearly worked. You're not clearly looking. 381 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: Trump has not had to deal with an inflation issue 382 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: because of the tariffs, and it is quite incredible. 383 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: It's incredible. It can't be denied. 384 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: Economists are like, wait a second, this isn't supposed to 385 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: happen like this. And we've made the argument here that 386 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: there's so much investment happening on the AI side. It's 387 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: countering the issues that the tariffs. Given that the tariffs 388 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: weren't there in the main, right, you can have specific 389 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 2: ones here and there, we would have greater growth, see 390 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: inflation go down. We could see interustrates further go down, 391 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: which is why when we talk about gold and silver, 392 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: gold is over five thousand announce, right, it costs fifty 393 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars an ounce. 394 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: Silver hit one hundred and thirteen. 395 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: Sorry, that's beyond belief, beyond anything I could have ever imagined. 396 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: But it's a hedge against inflation, and it's a real one. 397 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: It's very very real. So how Trump handles a deal 398 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: between the Europeans and India could have. 399 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: A big effect on the market. 400 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: But what Trump has said to Canada is don't think 401 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 2: you're just gonna take Canadian the Chinese goods and then 402 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: just send them to us like we're gonna buy them. 403 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 404 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no, that's not going to happen, 405 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: not in the slightest. We are not going to allow 406 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. We're not going to 407 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: allow you to simply utilize a deal with China to 408 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: abuse us. Now, I think that it's a little bit different. 409 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: Trump continued that China will eat Canada alive, completely devour it, 410 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: including the destruction of their businesses, social fabric and general 411 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: way of life. If Canada makes a deal with China, 412 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: it will immediately be hit with a one hundred percent 413 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: tariff against all Canadian goods and products coming into the USA. 414 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald 415 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: John Trump. Now with that his conversation, his focus was 416 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: on trade. My conversation and focus has been on the military. 417 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: What exactly can we accept and not accept in Canada 418 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: saying that there needs to be some level of new 419 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: world order and attaching themselves to China because they're not 420 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: happy with how trade has worked. In the tire of 421 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: conversation has worked with the United States, now, for the 422 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: sake of clarity, I do not believe Canada has reacted 423 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: one hundred percent improperly to the towers from the United States. 424 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: One of the things I always thought was weird is 425 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: when people are like, how dare they react? 426 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: How dare they respond? What do you mean? How dare 427 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: they react? Or how dare they respond? 428 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: It might seem small compared to our economic strength and capability, 429 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: but they're going to do what they do. There are 430 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: one thousand percent going to do what they do. They're 431 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: going to say, we have a country, We're going to 432 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: be proud of it. We're not going to just sit 433 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: here and take this garbage. They consider it garbage. 434 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 6: Right. 435 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: One can understand how they view it. 436 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: And so a lot of people looked at, for example, 437 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: the tariff's I'm bourbon, and oh, this is why Jim 438 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: Beam isn't producing bourbon, and this is why the whole 439 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: industry is falling apart. It isn't does make up a 440 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: small part of it that you saw the tariffs on bourbon, 441 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: the bourbon being taken off the shelves. And it's not 442 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: true in every province. It's only true in like two 443 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: or three provinces. Other provinces are carrying it. Some people 444 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: aren't buying it because they're not buying it, and that's that. 445 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: The real issue with bourbon in the United States has 446 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: to do with trends here in the US, younger generations 447 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: not drinking. People had their fill post COVID and then 448 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: a tremendous number of weight loss drugs that have people 449 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: not interested in drinking. There's a lot of things happening 450 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: here and people wants came out it's all about Trump 451 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: with the tariffs. 452 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 3: Don't look at the subjects like we do. Understand that. 453 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: I host the largest cigar and bourbon review show in 454 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: the country, radio show in the country called Eat, Drink, Smoke. 455 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: We get to talk to people, we are studying these things. 456 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: And to say that it's all just because of Trump 457 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: is people engage in their politics and not engaged in reality. 458 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: I have no interest for those people, and I don't 459 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: think you should either. But one should look at how 460 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: Canada's reacted and say, huh, all right, they stood up 461 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: for themselves. 462 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 3: That's what they did. 463 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: We would do the same, and you know you would. 464 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: And if the argument is how dare they stand up 465 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: for themselves? I'm sorry that is to not understand human nature, 466 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: which brings us. 467 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 3: To Canada and China being chummy and the military. 468 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: If Canada thinks we are going to let China engage 469 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: in any military operation or exercise off the Canadian coast, 470 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: they're out of their minds. 471 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: The Canadians are out of their heads. And if they 472 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: want to fight, you got it. 473 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: Well, Canada is an independent nation and we don't get 474 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: to say, well, yeah, we do. China is the enemy. 475 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: They're not welcome in the Western hemisphere. They cannot be 476 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: having alliances and allegiances with somebody that we are physically 477 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: connected to. 478 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: The answer is no. 479 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: So there is a place for Canada to say, Hey, 480 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: United States, we're gonna take this crap from you, And 481 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: there's a place to say you're going to take any 482 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: crap I tell you to take, because we are the 483 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: biggest guy on the playgrounds and we're willing to prove it. 484 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: Some people will see that as abusive. I'm not one 485 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: of those people. 486 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: I see that as a full understanding of the threat 487 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: that is all around us, the threat that comes to 488 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: us hourly from these people, and the protection of America's future. 489 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: Canada cannot be engaged in any type of military relationship 490 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: with China and the US just said idly by that 491 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: is not going to happen, not now, not never, not ever. 492 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: It's not and the President should should push back on that. 493 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: As for what's going to happen with goods and products 494 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: into the United States, I guess he's gonna raise tariffs. 495 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: I guess that's coming, and the markets will react as 496 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: they do, saying we don't like it, and then a 497 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: couple of days later, everything will just go back to 498 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: the way it was. I'm not paying attention to the 499 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: trade part of it. I'm paying attention to the military 500 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: part of it. That's the one to be concerned about. 501 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today Senator. 502 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: Chris van Holland. 503 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: Never Mama, he has thoughts, the Democrat from Maryland on 504 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: ice and our safety. 505 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 7: I was Senator Chris van Holland, a Democrat from Maryland. Senator, 506 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 7: thank you so much for being with us. So Bavino 507 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 7: is out, Homan is in. President Trump is talking with 508 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 7: Governor waltz In. Mayor Fry Allegedly, there are some changes 509 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 7: happening on the ground. 510 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: There. 511 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 7: More and more Republican senators are coming forward and members 512 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: of Congress saying they want an independent investigation. How satisfied 513 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 7: are you with what's been. 514 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 8: Happening, Tom, I'm not satisfied because what we need is 515 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 8: permanent changes with respect to how ICE and the Border 516 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 8: patrol folks conduct themselves. 517 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: And that will require raining in. 518 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 9: ICE as well as the border control folks, and it 519 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 9: also means creating a system for accountability. We need accountability 520 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 9: in this particular case, in both cases in Minnesota where 521 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 9: we've seen killings, but we also need an ongoing commitment 522 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 9: to make sure that there's accountability. The problem we've seen 523 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 9: is that these agents are essentially being told from the 524 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 9: White House by people like Steve Miller, people like Secretary 525 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 9: of NOME, people like President Trump, that they can go 526 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 9: out and kill Americans. 527 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: No, they're not, stop it, stop it, stop it. That's 528 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: not it. Know them had a two hour meeting with such. 529 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: There is no indication that Trump is going to fire 530 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: I will say this. I would argue that the immediate 531 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: on the shooting of Alex pretty of saying that he 532 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: was there to engage in mass murder of a vice agents, 533 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: it did. It hit people very much the wrong way, 534 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: Like who wha. 535 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa. 536 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 2: We don't know what's going on, and for five seconds 537 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: you're already doing this. Now the argument should be, well, 538 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: this is what the left does, immediately paint the picture, call. 539 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: Ice agents, this, that and the other. And that's how 540 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: you said a narrative. 541 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: And so you saw this with Renee Good domestic terrorist. 542 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: Can we take five minutes to find out what happened? Nope, 543 00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: boom calling it And I said interesting, interesting, in interesting, interesting, interesting, 544 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: that they're going right for the narrative set, which is 545 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: an interesting take and an interesting way to do these things. 546 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: You gotta understand, and sometimes that doesn't that doesn't work. 547 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: And the people on the political right, they're not the 548 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: people who buy into those things. And so that's the issue. 549 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: Nome is she in the hot seat? 550 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: I don't. I have no reason to think that she is. 551 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: No matter. 552 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: You know, when you see the left saying Nome needs 553 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: to resign and Tom Homan needs to resign. The political 554 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: left of the people who let Alejandro Mayorcis be the 555 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: h the Secretary of Homeland Security, not keep the border 556 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: safe and lie every single day that the border was 557 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: secure and more secure than it was a lie and 558 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: then the House impeached him, and the Senate under Chuck 559 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: Schumer refused to have a trial. So I don't listen 560 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: to them when they say this one has to go 561 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: with that wants to go. 562 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 3: It's just what they say. 563 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't care blah blah blah blah blah. But I 564 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: do recognize reality and the push for calling him a 565 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 2: potential murder and mass murderer. Man, it was a miss. 566 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: You didn't connect there. Give us data, give us facts, 567 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: show us what has been happening, what's going on, where 568 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: he's connected to, how he's connected, etc. 569 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 3: So what was the talk about. 570 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: I don't know how they are going to deal with 571 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: this in a pr way, how they want to change tactics, 572 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 2: if they want to change tactics. But I'll say it again, 573 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: Tom Homan is in, Greg Bavino is out, and I 574 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 2: don't think anything changes. The arrests still come, and I 575 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: think that you got to. 576 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 3: Move the violent out of there immediately. I'm turning kunts