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Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. I like the smoking.

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Speaker 1: It's the art. It's a story of how the cigar

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Speaker 1: comes to be, how these these blenders come up with

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Speaker 1: these ideas. And every now and again you learn something

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Speaker 1: like the one oh nine cap it's eat, drink, smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers

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Speaker 1: with loy, And this is the Crux marblehead that we

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Speaker 1: are smoking right here. This is the Toro, which is

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Speaker 1: a six x fifty, which means it's six inches long.

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Speaker 2: Tea always makes fingers will oy laugh.

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Speaker 1: And it is a fifty ring gauge. That's the diameter

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Speaker 1: again with the laughter. So a sixty four ring gauge

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Speaker 1: is a full one inch around, So fifty really easy,

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Speaker 1: good mouthfeel nice in the hand, really in the range

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Speaker 1: of where we do like to be, and find ourselves

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Speaker 1: smoking most of the cigars really in that forty eight

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Speaker 1: to fifty two. Of course, we'll try anything. What the

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Speaker 1: heck is a marblehead? So first Croux Crux cruckcigars dot

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Speaker 1: Com they did this in twenty fourteen, and a marblehead

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Speaker 1: refers to the cap, which is known as this one

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Speaker 1: oh nine style cap, Cuban style cap, where it's a

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Speaker 1: cross between your standard everyday kind of normal cap rounded

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Speaker 1: and a bellicoso. So a bellicoso think of like if

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Speaker 1: you've seen a torpedo cigar, right, how it slowly works

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Speaker 1: its way up to a point, but it's a little

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Speaker 1: more rounded of a point. That's a bellicoso. This is

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Speaker 1: a mix. So it's like they start the process and

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Speaker 1: then they say, okay, we're done, we're good. Here, we're tired.

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Speaker 1: the rest of the cigar and that's why they call

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Speaker 1: it the marblehead. And so they did this as a

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Speaker 1: cigar in twenty fourteen. Then they brought the cigar back.

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Speaker 1: So this debuted at the Premium Cigar Association trade show

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, and then it got released and

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Speaker 1: now it's in stores, I think on the regular and

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Speaker 1: that's why I did it. I've got it for today.

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Speaker 1: And Fingers loves this because the band is on the

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Speaker 1: foot and it just slides right off, super easy. Am

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Speaker 1: I wrong?

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Speaker 2: I know I've been nitpicky about this link. You've been

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Speaker 2: angry and vicious and bitter about the well because listen,

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Speaker 2: a lot of times it feels like some cigar manufacturers

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Speaker 2: will use industrial strength glue on their band and they'll

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Speaker 2: I've taken to my father Fingers Boys Senior twice to

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Speaker 2: wrecking the wrapper up by the cap because it was

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Speaker 1: Like a young man trying to undo a bra for

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Speaker 1: wants to smoke? After that? Everybody's out of the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so crocs excellent. If for any reason this band

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Speaker 1: That's the positive. Now, this is an Ecuadorian habano wrapper,

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Speaker 1: its an Indonesian binder Nicaraguan in the filler. Let me

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Speaker 1: give you what I saw on what Fingers saw immediately

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Speaker 1: as the negative here This is nothing. This isn't about

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Speaker 1: how the cigar smokes. I've never had it. We're about

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Speaker 1: to find out. This is about this cap, this one

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Speaker 1: o nine style cap. Where the heck do I cut

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Speaker 1: this thing? If I cut where it starts to kind

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Speaker 1: gonna feel like it's it's way too wide of a cut, right,

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Speaker 1: it's not shallow enough, and I'm missing out a cigar.

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Speaker 1: But if I only cut where it flattens out, it

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Speaker 1: seems like there's gonna be a terrible draw. This is

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Speaker 1: a weird cap. I understand that there's a history here

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Speaker 1: and that something you've done before in this this Cuban style,

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Speaker 2: So I used a cigar cutter that's got the little

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Speaker 2: cutting it, which really is not a deep cut at all.

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Speaker 2: You would agree, right Tony by looking at.

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Speaker 1: That, No, not at all. It's not really very shallow,

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Speaker 1: but it's so tapers in that it's like I almost

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Speaker 1: What happened? I don't know. I used that one years ago.

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Speaker 1: Now it's like and my youth. My V cutter and

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Speaker 2: That is one of the reasons why I struggle with

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Speaker 2: you want a good cutter to make a nice clean

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Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, somebody found a new cutter.

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Speaker 1: I use a V cutter. So rarely spend your money

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Speaker 1: on cutters. Spend your money on humid oors, not on lighters.

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Speaker 1: It's fire, people, It's just fire. But the cutter matters

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Speaker 1: because you can ruin your cigars. That's my take.

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Speaker 2: So my cut is pretty shallow and so far, I

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Speaker 2: I've got a really nice draw on this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: about cutters, I'm gonna use my opus X Society Military

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five dollars cutter. I had a

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Speaker 1: said thank you, and I bought two of these, all right,

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Speaker 1: You shut up, don't you lecture to me. Tell me

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Speaker 1: how this goes? All right, I'm cutting this. You started smoking.

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Speaker 1: This is the Crux marblehead. So ECUADORI and Habana. We

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised at how little spice there is. There's a

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Speaker 2: It is so far smoking wonderfully, only a wood note

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Speaker 2: I'm at right now. And again the draws nice to

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little light, maybe a little light. I'm absolutely

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Speaker 1: Hef This is the Crux marblehead. Now we are smoking.

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Speaker 1: See are Ux Crux Cigars dot com. This is the Toro,

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Speaker 1: the six by fifty. All right, I've cut. I cut

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Speaker 2: Well, I've said this many times, Tony. I've either said

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Speaker 2: when we're talking about life in general, live, laugh and love,

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Speaker 2: and the other thing I say is the first cut

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Speaker 2: was by Gary Glitter the original. Ah, look at you,

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Speaker 2: I just made that.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to say.

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Speaker 1: That is a very nice that is a very nice

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Speaker 1: I I'm a little I'm a little leathery in that.

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Speaker 1: There is a little there's a little bit of saddle

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Speaker 1: that is a very not you're you're right, not spice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the first time I've heard you reference that's

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Speaker 2: And that's actually a good pull.

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Speaker 1: Right, that it's saddle, that that's the flavor. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the other. But we'll get into more of that, dear Lord.

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Speaker 1: Another recall I'm telling you it's not it's not you

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Speaker 1: and me. It's not US Heat Drink Smoke Nation. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of recalls. This is getting silly.

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Speaker 2: The showshit called Eat Drink Smoke Recall.

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Speaker 1: It should not, Oh, it should be called total recall

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Speaker 1: because that's very original.

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Speaker 2: Titled by Philip Class.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Sea Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's

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Speaker 1: America's favorite Averagur drinker. Fingers molloy. Now, sometimes the recalls

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Speaker 1: are just dumb. They recall at Costco for butter because

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Speaker 1: doesn't say may contain milk, which if I don't want

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Speaker 2: Just it's butter or the recall we did what last

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Speaker 2: warned that peanut m and ms have peanuts in them.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's not a recall, that's a reminder when you

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Speaker 1: didn't figure it out from peanut m and m. This

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Speaker 1: one's serious. Three million pounds of frozen food for potential

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Speaker 1: glass contamination. This comes from the USDA, from the Food

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Speaker 1: Safety Inspection Service, which knows the FSIS or frozen chicken,

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Speaker 1: fried rice, in the US and Canada from Ajinomoto Foods.

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Speaker 2: I think it's that's how I'm pronouncing, right, A G

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Speaker 1: They're Yakatory chicken with Japanese style fried rice and Trader

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Speaker 1: Joe's Chicken fried rice because so they could be contaminated

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Speaker 2: This goes back to twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Oh dang, really this was produced between September and November

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: But it's frozen, so people people throw it in the freezer,

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Speaker 2: forget about it until you know they're in a jam.

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Speaker 1: They need Oh yeah, Neil, you gotta go, look, you

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Speaker 1: gotta go. Look the we're gonna we'll post this over

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Speaker 1: at Eatdrink smokeshow dot com. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: do it right now, post it these tending we will

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Speaker 1: get it posted. Yeah, that's serious stuff. It has the

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Speaker 1: That's inside the USDA Mark of inspection. You can get

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Speaker 1: more at the USDA's a website.

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Speaker 2: Good Lord, that terrifies me more than an ingredient that

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be in it. That is actually food or spice.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is from a tasting table dot com and

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Speaker 1: Bernie madeoff. But a smoker the tragger cannot make a steak,

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Speaker 1: that's why I got a grill. It's not the same.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem with this is because prime rib is

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Speaker 1: And I just don't think that's a way to live.

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Speaker 1: to risk. And for the record, nothing's ever wasted. That's

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Speaker 1: why God made chili. And that's the answer. Tacos. You're

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Speaker 1: still going to use it. It's not a waste you

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the state conversation briefly. You've never

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Speaker 1: No, I don't like that idea. I don't want any

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Speaker 1: could be that some people really love that. I tried

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Speaker 2: So you wouldn't like a steak that I cooked on

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know because I don't know

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Speaker 2: I'm right here, okay, right now, I'm waiting.

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Speaker 1: Eat drink. Smoking is your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers malloy.

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Speaker 1: We are smoking the Crux marblehead. A six by fifty

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Speaker 1: marblehead refers to the cap design based on the one

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Speaker 1: Uh No, I'm not getting a big spice, but there

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Speaker 1: room and that new car smell leather. That's maybe that's

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Speaker 1: how we're saying it. I very much like how how

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Speaker 1: top of the palette, it is. It is brighter than

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Speaker 1: other cigars, and it is playing in a very very

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Speaker 2: For me, it is a nice balance between I'm getting

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Speaker 2: That spice is there, but it's not something that's overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: It's not as spicy as I thought it was going

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Speaker 2: to be. But I don't mean to take out my

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Speaker 2: jump to conclusions Matt Tony. But if you were, if

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Speaker 2: if I were going to start coming up with cigars

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Speaker 1: Me really yes, even though this is this first of all,

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Speaker 1: this is playing towards full This is more than a

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Speaker 1: medium I would go that would be me this cigar.

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Speaker 1: There is actually quite a bit happening. And what's crazy?

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Speaker 1: And where did I find the story? There was a

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Speaker 1: up this this cigar, and it was not my space,

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Speaker 1: it was not Tom did not do this. Okay, It's

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Speaker 1: a site called gentlemen Pursuits Gentleman's with a plural pursuit

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Speaker 1: they wrote about it. Cruck Cigars crux. Cruckcigars dot com

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Speaker 1: rolls out budget friendly marbleheadline. This cigar fingers willowy six

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Speaker 2: And that's why I said it may end up on

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Speaker 2: This is this. If this spice stays where it is

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Speaker 2: and doesn't pick up to me, this could be for

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Speaker 1: When you're talking about a Hobano, you have the opportunity

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Speaker 1: I'm with you there. I spice is solid, right, whether

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Speaker 1: But when you see a cigar that they refer to

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Speaker 1: it's too overwhelming. It's not where I want to be.

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Speaker 1: There's a there is a there is a real amount

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Speaker 1: twenty yeah? Oh god, yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Grab

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Speaker 1: a couple of friends, split it, you know, four friends,

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Speaker 2: If this stays the way it is. As far as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh sure, oh absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Even though you said it's leaning towards full, I still

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Speaker 1: affect your palette. What'd you eat today? What'd you drink today?

433
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: All those kinds of things affect your palate. You want

434
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: to write that down and then break the scar up

435
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: into the third's first third, second third, final third right

436
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: of the cigar, the first third starting on the foot

437
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: where you light it, ending with the final third the

438
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: cap where you're smoking from. Then write down the flavors right.

439
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: What are you getting from each third? It doesn't matter

440
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: how esoteric or bates it is. Then when you try

441
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: that cigar month from now or six months from now,

442
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: you do it again. You compare your notes, get your

443
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: through line. What are the flavors that you got again

444
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: that you got the first time. That's what you get

445
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: out of that cigar. That's what you're getting from that wrapper,

446
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: binder and filler. Then you can maybe go about finding

447
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: cigars that may be match a profile that you like. Yeah,

448
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: but it's time fingers Moloy for News of the week.

449
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: But don't don't He started with a sigh. You didn't

450
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: even like say, no one said anything yet you're already like,

451
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: oh it all sucks.

452
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: Come on, No, this is you are Johnny good news.

453
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: This is another story that breaks my heart. Last week

454
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: we talked about how coca Cola announced that they were

455
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Speaker 2: gonna drop the Minute Made frozen concentrate product line entirely,

456
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Speaker 2: which was a part of my youth.

457
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: So no more frozen orange shoes, no more frozen lemonade.

458
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: Another part of my youth apparently is on life support

459
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: and almost dead. The Street is reporting that Sears, which

460
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: in its heyday had over three thousand brick and mortar locations,

461
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: is now going to be cut down to just five locations,

462
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Speaker 2: and Sears my goods. I can think back to when

463
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Speaker 2: I was just a young Fingers digit maloy back in

464
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Speaker 2: that day, going through the Seers catalog and making my

465
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Speaker 2: Christmas card or my Christmas gift list, and how I

466
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Speaker 2: wanted something like a Merlin electronic football game, things like that,

467
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: And Sears used to send out catalogs for you kids

468
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Speaker 2: under the age of forty where you would thumb through

469
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Speaker 2: and look through what Sears had to offer, and you

470
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Speaker 2: go to Sears and they would have the craftsmen tools

471
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Speaker 2: right now to the candy counter where you could get

472
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Speaker 2: all sorts of different treats. Down to five locations, Tony.

473
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Speaker 1: The most shocking thing about the story Sears still has locations.

474
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Speaker 1: I had no clue I had absolutely no idea they

475
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Speaker 1: still have locations where where are? Do we know?

476
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Speaker 2: We don't know where they are. Apparently Sears may not

477
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: even know where they are. But it it's sad to

478
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: me because oh yep, here we go. The Seers locations

479
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Speaker 2: are that are still available are open are in Coral Gables, Florida, Orlando, Braintree, Massachusetts, Concord, California,

480
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Speaker 2: and El Paso, Texas.

481
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Speaker 1: Well, the answer is road trip.

482
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Speaker 2: You don't have to twist my arm in this weather

483
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Speaker 2: to make a road trip down to Florida to go

484
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Speaker 2: to a Sears. I would do that in a heartbeat.

485
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: You know, that's the dumbest thing that's ever been suggested.

486
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: Any excuse to get out of thirty degree weather to

487
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: go down to Florida is not dumb. What do you

488
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: think Sears still sells mattresses and sport coats?

489
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: Seriously? Like where the brand wasn't purchased by like a

490
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Speaker 1: Cohls or somebody else along the line.

491
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is I wonder because Craftsman has been

492
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: I believe sold twice. I think, if I'm not mistaken,

493
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: maybe Low's owns Craftsmen now rights crafts.

494
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Which is a real line. I mean, that's solid stuff.

495
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: I wonder if they even sell craftsmen anymore.

496
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: I think that got sold off.

497
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Speaker 2: If they sell candy, that's reason alone to go down

498
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Speaker 2: to Florida. You can't just get good candy anywhere. Sears

499
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: sold candy and a candy counter by bulk candy, and

500
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: they'd have popcorn popcorn. I remember, yeah, candy.

501
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: Remember, oh, right there on Route thirty five and uh

502
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Speaker 1: was that? I forget the King's King's Highway in Middletown,

503
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, sewn, That's where I grew up. Oh, Miletown,

504
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: New Jersey. They don't even have a statute of meeting

505
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: that's coming soon. No, it's not. Everybody knows by now. Then,

506
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: In addition to the work we do at Eat, Drink,

507
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: Smoke and our individual radio shows A Fingers Maloy heard

508
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Speaker 1: in Michigan, me a morning host in Indianapolis, and the

509
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Speaker 1: nationally syndicated in the midday. In addition to all the

510
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Speaker 1: other radio work we do, Fingers Maloy and I are

511
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Speaker 1: relationship experts. It's true, nay.

512
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Speaker 2: Gurus, absolutely correct. We've often thought about releasing a relationship

513
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Speaker 2: type advice show, and we're gonna call it Romance Lines.

514
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Speaker 1: Oh, I was gonna call it, dear Abby see drink smoke.

515
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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That's America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers maloy.

516
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Speaker 1: I would, I would gladly do a relationship show. I

523
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Speaker 1: forgot to mention. Of course, you are also known as

524
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: a fitness influencer, and you are an expert at monitoring

525
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: social media outrage. That's true.

526
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: Some call me a fitness guru.

527
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: That's that's what they that's what they call you. This

528
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: was from CNBC. I'm a psychologist who studies couples. People

529
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: in the happiest relationships do seven things on weeknights that

530
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Speaker 1: most neglect.

531
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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a little creepy. That's there's someone

532
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: out there that says I specifically study couples.

533
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's creepy if they do it from a van

534
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: fair enough outside your house. If the couples don't know

535
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: they're being studied, then yes it's creepy. So here are

536
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: no fingers and eye being experts, We're going to break

537
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: down this list and determine whether or not this a

538
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: so called psychologist wink wink, you know, is on the

539
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: up and up. So let's start with we are you ready, yes,

540
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: let's start with couples. Start with decompression time. Healthy couples

541
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: build in fifteen to thirty minutes of guilt free alone

542
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: time for each partner. One decompresses while the other handles

543
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: a light task. Then they switch. Why does anybody have

544
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Speaker 1: to handle a task? What is this? But as a

545
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: concept absolutely the spouse walks in the door and then

546
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: they get overwhelmed with you won't believe this, and oh

547
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: my gosh that and let me tell you about this.

548
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: No bad idea, terrible idea. Of course, you need time

549
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: to take a breath.

550
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: You mentioned how I like to monitor social media outrage,

551
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: and you do it better than almost anybody.

552
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Thank you.

553
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate that the amount of videos I see on

554
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: social media from a male perspective talking about coming home

555
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: from work and pulling into the driveway and for five

556
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: or ten minutes just sitting in the car before they

557
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: go in. Not because they don't love their wife, they

558
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: don't love their family, but the drive home is not

559
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: a time for decompression. It is you're dealing with traffic

560
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: and you're thinking about what happened at work that day.

561
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: For a lot of men, they feel like they need

562
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Speaker 2: that five minutes before they go in to decompress and

563
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: just kind of relax before they enter the other phase

564
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: of their day. That seems reasonable this whole we have

565
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: a list of tasks and one partner needs to do

566
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: the task while the other person decompresses. And then you

567
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: do some sort of weird tag team where you say, okay,

568
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: now you're it, and then you go do task. Why decompress?

569
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Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense to me.

570
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Speaker 1: It's absolutely ridiculous. No light task has to be done.

571
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: It's okay to have twenty minutes of no tasks. It's fine,

572
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: it's acceptable. Relax, relax. You know the idea of if

573
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: we talk about in the old fashioned way, the man

574
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: comes home from work to Scott his briefcase, sorry, Scott

575
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: his lunch pail, and the drink's waiting for him right

576
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: the very concept of that might seem outrageously old fashioned.

577
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: So take it out of that where you might actually

578
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: have an old fashioned waiting for you, and bring it

579
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: into today's world. First of all, nothing wrong with making

580
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: your partner a drink, nothing wrong with that. But the

581
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: idea of just a moment to breathe and to rest

582
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: and to readjust is good. Why wouldn't we want that

583
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: for the people we love.

584
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Speaker 2: I feel like that what you just laid out has

585
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: been replaced by sitting in your car for ten minutes

586
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: before you go in.

587
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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I think that's said. I

588
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: think that's sad because you look at being in the

589
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: house as the drudgery, like it's another job and it

590
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. That's the part that drives me not But.

591
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Speaker 2: I think it goes back to what you mentioned earlier

592
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Speaker 2: about you open the door and say you do have

593
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Speaker 2: your partner. Because it doesn't have to be a woman

594
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: at home stay at home while the man works. It

595
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: can be vice versa stay at home dad and then

596
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Speaker 2: the mom goes out to work when they are home

597
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Speaker 2: all day. If they are, if you're fortunate enough to

598
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Speaker 2: be a one income family, they're so happy to have

599
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Speaker 2: an adult in the house to where they can immediately

600
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Speaker 2: have a conversation that they immediately launch into things that

601
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Speaker 2: the person coming home isn't ready for. So they're like, Okay,

602
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Speaker 2: I just need five minutes of listening to whatever I

603
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: want to listen to on the radio, or just have

604
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Speaker 2: everything off, have complete meditate for crying out loud before

605
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: I go into the house. You may think that's sad.

606
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: It may be necessary for some people.

607
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the fact that they can't have it in

608
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Speaker 1: their own home, that's a lack of communication.

609
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Speaker 2: And I don't think people should live like well, but

610
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: that is a hard conversation to have with your significant other. Hey, listen,

611
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Speaker 2: I need ten minutes of not talking to me when

612
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: I walk into the house, or five minutes. I just

613
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: need a moment to not have all the problems at

614
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Speaker 2: work then come home and immediately have to address problems

615
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Speaker 2: of the household.

616
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Speaker 1: And so why can't you say I need ten minutes

617
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Speaker 1: because people are cowards, good to.

618
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Speaker 2: Be home, love you ten minutes.

619
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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't Why wouldn't a partner, a spouse want to

620
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Speaker 1: give that to their spouse you hate them so much

621
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Speaker 1: they can't have ten minutes. They haven't earned ten minutes.

622
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Speaker 1: They don't deserve ten minutes. What kind of spouse? But

623
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: male or female? What kind of spouse?

624
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Speaker 2: Because I'm sure the reaction for someone who may be

625
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: a little reactionary would be, oh, you.

626
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Speaker 1: Need ten minutes.

627
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: I haven't had ten minutes all.

628
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Speaker 1: Day, So you haven't had ten minutes all day. Now

629
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Speaker 1: you're going to attack.

630
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: Me for it? Why do we always fight?

631
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: We're not fighting. I need you to understand what it

632
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: is that I need and for this to work. And

633
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: if you can't offer me ten minutes, where I could

634
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: then offer you an hour. I don't know what we're

635
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: doing here. I should have married your sister. She's quite

636
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: a bit older than you. Well she knew at least

637
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: how to give me ten minutes, did she?

638
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: And then I was more than happy to give her

639
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: an hour. There it is.

640
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: See it's all in how you say it. It really is.

641
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: Then there is this. They silent sink when they're drained,

642
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: and at that moment I hate this article Some nights,

643
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: even after a decompression session, See it's not a session,

644
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: forget it. You may still feel drained. Happy couples don't

645
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: force it. They start their evening together, but quietly sitting

646
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: on the balcony, lying side by side, taking a slow

647
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: walk on a balcony. I don't understand. Where are they

648
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Speaker 1: laying side by side outside in the yard hoping for

649
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Speaker 1: sweet death to come? Where are they?

650
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: What is a sweet angel of death to come down

651
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Speaker 2: and gets them on the forehead at the smod I

652
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: don't I think there's something to this though, because there

653
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Speaker 2: are people and fortunately I'm not involved in something like this.

654
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Speaker 2: They can't just sit for ten minutes without opening their mouths.

655
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Speaker 1: That's true.

656
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Speaker 2: There's something very comforting when you find someone that you

657
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: can just sit on a couch for ten minutes.

658
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Speaker 1: And I'm not.

659
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Speaker 2: Talking about both of you doom scrolling at the same

660
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Speaker 2: time on your phone, just sitting back and not having

661
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Speaker 2: to say a word.

662
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Now, that's true. The people are are definitely afraid of silence.

663
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: They're incapable of handling silence. Silence is not necessarily indicative

664
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Speaker 1: of a problem. Silence is okay. I have spoken with

665
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Speaker 1: people who they they They've said clearly, it's not that

666
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: we have to always be talking to each other. We

667
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: just want to know that we're around each other. That's

668
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Speaker 1: That's another that's the connection part. And then the talking

669
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: of course comes and other things come. But doesn't have

670
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: to be talking all the time. And it doesn't have

671
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: to be.

672
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: But if you're sitting in the same room, how do

673
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: you not recognize that there's someone close to you?

674
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: You do, but it doesn't have to immediately, like, it

675
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be agenda driven.

676
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right for me, I'm not like that because I'm

677
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: a chatty kathy and like to talk to everybody.

678
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Speaker 1: That's me.

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681
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682
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Speaker 1: we've never tried before.

714
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Speaker 1: Set Drink Smoke, I'm Tony Katz. That right, there's fingers

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Speaker 1: from on. I find everything we do at Eat Drink

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Speaker 1: Smoke show dot com. We try bourbons that you've heard of.

718
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Speaker 1: We've tried bourbons that cost a crap ton of money.

719
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: We try things that don't cost much money at all,

720
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Speaker 1: and then of course we try things that aren't even bourbon.

721
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: It's about letting you know, hey, this is interesting. And

722
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: here's why. Never once are we about expertise. We're about

723
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: what we like, what we don't and at a price point.

724
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: Is it in our humid or this liquor cabinet, liquor cabinet. Oh,

725
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: cigars go in the humid or? Yes.

726
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: My first day on the show, this is Hirsh.

727
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: Hirsh the Horizon, straight bourbon whiskey coming in at ninety

728
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: two proof. No applause, fingers will life, no applause. He

729
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: only applaudes for things that are one hundred proof or more.

730
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: Very interesting. A little bit of bourbon here, because this

731
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: comes from two different mash bills. Ninety four percent of

732
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: this bourbon is four year, eleven month bourbon. Six percent

733
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: of this bourbon is six year, eight month bourbon, both

734
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: of them with a pretty good amount of corn seventy

735
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: five percent or sixty percent corn, and also with a

736
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: bit of rye twenty one percent or thirty six percent.

737
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: So you would expect a little bit of sweetness, a

738
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: little bit of spice, a good mix in this bourbon.

739
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: Why they do it ninety four percent six percent? I

740
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: have no idea.

741
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: Did you say just eleven month, because that doesn't four

742
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: years eleven That doesn't drive at all, four years eleven months.

743
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: First before anything, I don't know why I dig this bottle.

744
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: It's a squared off bottle, but it's got this kind

745
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: of groove on the side. I dig it, and I

746
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: love the colors of this that that kind of deep

747
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: teal with the gold. And then it's it's it's like

748
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: a sextant. A look here at the bottom where it

749
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: says hirsh hersh It turns out h I R S

750
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: C H is an older name in Bourbon that the

751
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: hoteling group or hoteling in company h O T A

752
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: L I n G. I think they took that name

753
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: and then then brought it back to something. They get

754
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: the bourbon itself from MGP Lawrenceburg, Indiana. They make an

755
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: incredible amount of bourbon. And some people will look at

756
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: MGP and say, oh, it's MGP. Oh yeah, I've had that.

757
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: Not true. They are are They've been able to create

758
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: tremendous bourbons in very very different styles, very different gradations,

759
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: and so even though it may come from MGP, those

760
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: products are often very very different. This right here is

761
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: very orange fingers from boy. Yeah, not not amber, not

762
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: not dark right, not not not light, but not that

763
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: that richness. But it's really really orange, is what this

764
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: looks like.

765
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: I would agree with you on that. I'm gonna go

766
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: in for the nose. I'm assuming this is gonna be

767
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: the Hirsh. The horizon is going to be a lot

768
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: better smelling than the Hirsh of the taxi.

769
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, jud Hirsh gone too soon. But he's dead, right,

770
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: I don't think, oh boy, we're gonna look that up. Yeah,

771
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: we may owe the Hirsh family in apology. Yes, all right,

772
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: a slight bit of oak. Did you get a little

773
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: bit of beautiful. Did you get a little bit of

774
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: apple right on the nose? And then it goes to

775
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: like a no, I have vanilla, Yeah, I have vanilla.

776
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: But all right, maybe maybe like a fruit loop back okay, right,

777
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: oh no, no, not not fruit loop fruit punch, minute

778
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: made fruit punch, which I don't know if they have

779
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: that as a frozen concentrat anymore.

780
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: Other don't don't keep ruining my childhood.

781
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: Vanilla and a little bit of mini made fruit punch.

782
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: I'll buy that.

783
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: That is very nice.

784
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: But what's interesting not really sweet at least on the nose.

785
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: You mentioned the amount of rye in the mash. Bill,

786
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm not getting any kind of rye spice on the nose.

787
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: So ninety four proof and hitting very very.

788
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 2: Simple, no ethanol, nope.

789
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's fun. That's fun. But we're not here

790
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: to sniff fingers with boy. We are here to drink

791
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: the Hirsh which this is the Hirsh Horizon Bourbon fingers

792
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: with oo.

793
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: Are you ready for this, Tony? I've been ready for

794
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: this all day.

795
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: Fingers with Oi is doing what is known as the

796
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Kentucky chew, taking a sip, moving the juice around the palate,

797
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: really getting a feel for the flavors. I'm a believer

798
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: in the two SIPs methodology. The first sip to set

799
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: the taste buds, the second sip to really get an

800
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: idea of where those flavors are. What say you, fingers

801
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: Horatio Ignatius Maloy, Okay, that.

802
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: Vanilla's there, there's smoke, there's a It feels very traditional bourbon,

803
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: except there is a little bit more of that rye

804
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: spice than you would have expect from a traditional bourbon

805
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: because it's it's got that rye spice in it. It's

806
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: very nice, very little sting on the tongue. Okay, this

807
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: just must be me. In the last couple of weeks,

808
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: I've been noticing bourbon has given me a little bit

809
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: more of a fire in the belly. There is, Yeah,

810
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: there's there's warmth in the diaphragm, that in the torso

811
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: that wasn't there before. Because you've said on several occasions,

812
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm dead inside. It's very nice, very pleasant. I'll be

813
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: interested to see what it's like with a little bit

814
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: of water in it, because right now I don't want

815
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: a monkey with it.

816
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: By the way, it is a sextant as the logo

817
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: and it reads the spirit of the journey. Get it

818
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: journey sextant, We'll chart your course mottel in life, the

819
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: spirit of the journey. That's that and live laugh, love,

820
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: that's true.

821
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: The heirsh h I R S c H.

822
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: The horizon straight bourbon whiskey again in sextant, the horizon,

823
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: setting your course. They got it all coming together. Here

824
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: I go.

825
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: It's all coming together right now for Tony Is he's

826
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 2: going in and he's doing what we like to call

827
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: the sagon of swish, the Memphis munch chad nooka chomp.

828
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: Oh.

829
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: He's going in for seconds, ladies and gentlemen. He's doing

830
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: the two sip method, as he liked to say earlier.

831
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: And Tony your thoughts. Yeah, I gotta believe you like

832
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: that extra little rye kick. It's not overwhelming, but just

833
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: let you know it's there.

834
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh, that's tremendously good. See, I would love is that oak?

835
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: Is that oak on the palette moving into the finish,

836
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: Because there's definite cinnamon, definite definite cinnamon. There is that

837
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: little bit of almost like a vanilla cream sweetness that

838
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: is there, and I think that what's cutting it is

839
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of oak that is staying with you

840
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: through the finish. I wonder if a purist it would say,

841
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: there's not there's not enough kick, there's not enough punch

842
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: to that, not enough oak, not enough vanilla, right, I

843
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: think I think that's going to annoy some people. Holy cow,

844
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: could this work for the room? That is a nice

845
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: that is a nice, easy, easy piece. And I'm gonna

846
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: say for the record that that they they may call this,

847
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: the people at Hirsch would refer to this as a

848
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: high rise straight bourbon. Umm, no, no, not at all.

849
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: But you're a rye guy.

850
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: Not Yeah I am, and not not at all. But

851
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's it's limiting the suite and

852
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: I think that's what's doing this so good.

853
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Do you feel like this could be a good base

854
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: for several cocktails?

855
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: Oh? You can make all fashions with this, like it's

856
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: your job. Yeah, you really can. I'm curious how that

857
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: cinnamon would play in it. But maybe this is your

858
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: hot toddy bourbon. Maybe this as as some other kind

859
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: of I'm trying to think of what mixed drink do

860
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: I make with them? We gotta we gotta find out.

861
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: Would you make my hat on with it. I to

862
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: see the cinnamon throws me off, So I don't.

863
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: Know see that centnamon to me. I see what you're saying.

864
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: It's subtle. This is milkshake bourbon. Okay, how buy that?

865
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: Ten? This is milk and which I love. By the way,

866
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: this is eggnogbourbon. Okay if you want to do it

867
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: that way.

868
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like this is it's versatile.

869
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: This is working for me. I wish I had some

870
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: more oak hersh h I R S c H. The

871
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: horizon straight bourbon whiskey. Is it in our liquor cabinet?

872
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Is a cigar in our humid or? We will get

873
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: to the answers of both of those coming up. Find

874
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: everything at each drink smokeshow dot com. According to sources,

875
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 1: fingers well, you can't go home again.

876
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: That's not true.

877
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: They say that once one you have grown up, you

878
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: become an adult. All those things that you love as

879
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: a kid, well they're never coming back and you can't

880
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: you can't relive your youth.

881
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: Can't go home again. Well that's true. Oh so you agree?

882
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: Yes, see drink smoke up Tony Katz that is America's

883
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: favorite amateur drinker. Fingers below and over there at eat

884
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: This not that dot com, which is a website. I

885
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: think we are single handedly keeping in business by using

886
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: their information on our show. Here five popular breakfast cereals

887
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: that shoppers say don't taste the same anymore. Now, couldn't

888
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: we say that over time, things that we grew up

889
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: with they do change, because, after all, tastes change, and

890
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: ingredients change, and companies change. And I mean, does a

891
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: Dunkin Donuts donut taste the same now as it did

892
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: when you were a kid?

893
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: I never got done.

894
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: Well, I'll allow me to answer the question.

895
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: No, I feel like, would you say, maybe it's a

896
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: situation where it's not so much that the ingredients have changed,

897
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: but maybe your palette becomes tired, and not tired, that's fatigued.

898
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: And I don't know, old man, these flavor profiles that

899
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: once gave you some, it gave you some zazz, some zing.

900
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: All of a sudden you're like, I've had this a

901
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: million times, it doesn't taste the same.

902
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't give me that.

903
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: So much of what food is is an emotional connection

904
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: and been there, done that doesn't taste as good to

905
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: me as it used.

906
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: To all I know is there are people out there

907
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: who we shared the video of my explaining to America

908
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: that Sonny D is terrible and you're like, D is great.

909
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: There are people out there who actually agree.

910
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: With you, and I'm not gonna lie. I weep for

911
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: the future, Oh boy, Sonny D. I mean, they're more

912
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: than welcome to be in business. But that stuff is

913
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: not good.

914
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: I weep for your past. You don't, uh, I weep

915
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: for your past.

916
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm just fine. You didn't enjoy that childhood minute made

917
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: fruit punch. That was the treat of treats that you

918
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: got when you were sick. Ah, the Minute made fruit punch.

919
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: You didn't have five Alive?

920
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: No, five alive? And Sonny D? What did they do

921
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: to you in the Midwest?

922
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Five alive? When I drank it, I said, it's six

923
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: alive because I've never felt so alive?

924
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: Is what you say? Yes?

925
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: And then when you were seven? Yes? And then the

926
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: jug said serves twelve and I said serves twelve, serves one.

927
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: That's what I said, Oh good at seven? Playing my Merlin.

928
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: Good? What is happening? So there's this list five popular

929
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: breakfast cereals that choppers say don't taste the same Mom,

930
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start number five. We start the bottom, working

931
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: my way up. Okay, Now, there are some cereals here

932
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: that I have never ever had, and I want to say,

933
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: for the record, I believe that I am. I've only

934
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: had two of the five in my whole life. Maybe

935
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: I had one once, but I didn't have it certainly

936
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: as a regular thing. Number five is cocoa puffs at all. Five.

937
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: Of course you had all five today Today people saying

938
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: that the cocoa puffs don't taste like cocoa anymore, they

939
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: don't taste like anything.

940
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that far. It has been a tick

941
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: since I've had coca puffs. But one thing I remember

942
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 2: as a kid, when you'd have cocoa puffs, you would

943
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: consume the cocoa puffs and then there were so much

944
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: chocolate flavor that it would bleed into the milk, and

945
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: then it tastes like when you finished up and you

946
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: drank the milk that you were drinking chocolate milk, which,

947
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: by the.

948
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Way, the flavor in the milk afterwards of your cereal

949
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: was once referred to. Was explained to me, that is

950
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: actually cereal wine.

951
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. It's brilliant.

952
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: If I could just get and go to a store

953
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: and get the milk flavored as cereal, which I'm sure

954
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: people have tried before unsuccessfully.

955
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: I want to say, wasn't there a time where they

956
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: actually marketed a product that was fruit loops milk and

957
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: cocoa puff's milk and it came in a little tiny bottle.

958
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: I never saw it.

959
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to ask Jeeves.

960
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: Now. Number four on the list is corn pops. I've

961
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: had corn pops before, not the same since they got

962
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: rid of the foil bag, because now they go stale

963
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: and they lose their crunchiness.

964
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: I forgot about the foil bag.

965
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't recall it.

966
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: Oh, corn pops to me, locked in the freshness, yes,

967
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 2: because foil locks in freshness. How many times have I

968
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: had this conversation all the time I read your thesis.

969
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: Corn pops to me, I would never grab take to

970
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: that as a kid in the cereal aisle because there

971
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: just wasn't enough sugar. Corn pops was sugar curious to me.

972
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: It was there's a little bit of sweetness there, but

973
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: it didn't pack the sugar punch that I expected in

974
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: my breakfast cereal.

975
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: Number three like number five, Count Chocula. I never had

976
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: Count chocolate damelf, I never I never never had that.

977
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: Wow, to me, that's another cereal back in the day

978
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: where when you were done you got to consume what

979
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: was it, cereal wine, cereal wine, cereal wine. It was

980
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 2: another one when when you were done you had chocolate milk.

981
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: It was a twofer for a kid.

982
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: I have not.

983
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: I have had count Chocula in the last five years

984
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: or so, and it didn't taste as chocolatey as I

985
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: remember it as a youth.

986
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: Number two is Kicks, kid tested, parent approved. Kicks to

987
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: me is the kid's version of grape nuts. Yeah. Yeah,

988
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: Now maybe my mother did once or twice by Kicks,

989
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: I just don't remember it as a staple in the house,

990
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. This is the very berry flavor of Kicks.

991
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: I didn't know they still make this. Well.

992
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: I remember my mom saying to me when she bought

993
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: it for me once, Kicks like Kicks for what Kicks

994
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: has got. But Mom's like Kicks for what Kicks is not.

995
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: Was that their thing? Yeah? Kid tested, mother approved. Now

996
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: it says kid tested, parent approved. See it was kid

997
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: tested mother approved. You bastards? Did you PC kicks?

998
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: General Mills. We have demoted you to Colonel Mills for

999
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: that right there. Second, Louis, Wow, that's where we are

1000
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: kid tested, mother approved.

1001
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: Yes, they change.

1002
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: You know what, this is a non political show and

1003
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it that way.

1004
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: Good for you.

1005
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: I want to riot, this is this is this is it.

1006
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: I just want to break things, but this is my

1007
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: studio and all of our stuff and I can't. I. Oh,

1008
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm outraged. Oh my god, that's horrifying.

1009
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: In this situation, your outrage would be mother approved.

1010
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: Number one on the list. I'm Midley. I haven't had

1011
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: them in a while. But this is the cereal cereals.

1012
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: This is the top line cereal, ladies and gentlemen. This

1013
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: is the benchmark from which one measures all other cereals.

1014
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: And you're gonna say to me, Tony, you're talking about

1015
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: frosted flakes. I'm not talking about frosted flakes. Tony, you're

1016
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: talking about fruit loops. I'm not even talking about fruit loops.

1017
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: But that would be closer. This is honey nut cheerios.

1018
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: You haven't had it in a while. We've talked about

1019
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: how nut cheerios to the point where I thought the

1020
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: Eat Rink Smoke studios should have been sponsored by honeynut

1021
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: cheerios coming from the honeynut cheerio studios in Central Indianas.

1022
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: I love honeynut cheios. Are you telling me they don't

1023
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 2: taste the same anymore?

1024
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: To me?

1025
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: Honeynut cheerios should be reached named box of disappointment?

1026
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? Not enough honey?

1027
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: There's no nuts?

1028
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: Is there?

1029
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 2: Honey nuts?

1030
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: It's the right amount of sweet? Ridiculous? Eat Drink smoking

1031
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: is your scar Bourbon footy extravaganza, am Tony Katz. That's

1032
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: fingers woy. You find everything we do at Eat Drink

1033
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: smokeshow dot com smoking the crooks marblehead this six by

1034
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: fifty with the Ecuadorian habano Robert ECUADORI Nebano. Yeah, I've

1035
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: got that right. It was Indonesian in the binder, Nicaraguan

1036
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: in uh the filler. It's been a very nice presentation,

1037
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: very very nice. That you're not having any problems. I've

1038
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: had a couple of light problems. It could be for

1039
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of reasons. I'm gonna go with the

1040
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: tail end of this cold and a little bit about

1041
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: how I'm engaging with the cigar. But I am able

1042
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: to pick up plenty of the notes, and I don't

1043
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: think that spice has picked up. I think that spice

1044
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: is certainly present with that kind of saddle leather that

1045
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: I've been getting from the cigar. I'm serious when I

1046
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: say this plays in the medium full but for eight

1047
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: dollars a stick. As I'm in now the second third

1048
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: of the cigar, you are, you're in the final third

1049
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: of this.

1050
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm experiencing just a little bit of canoeing, but

1051
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: not all that bad.

1052
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: This is a nice, nice cigar at the price point.

1053
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of movement in the flavor. I could

1054
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: see people enjoying this and listen. It's a very attractive rapper.

1055
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: Not necessarily an oily rapper by any starch, but a

1056
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: nice bit of a standard kind of brown in there.

1057
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: Nice piece, well done, well played.

1058
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that spice hasn't really picked up for me. The

1059
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: wood is there and there's almost like a little bit

1060
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: of earthiness as I'm getting into the final third of

1061
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: this cigar. No complaints other than, like I said, a

1062
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: little bit of canoeing, and that could be my fault.

1063
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: I'll believe you so all in all my goodness again

1064
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: when we talk about lists for the end of the year,

1065
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: A combination of the flavor profile that's been nice, the

1066
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: thought that this could be in everyday smoke and eight

1067
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: dollars a stick eight bucks.

1068
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is in my humidor Yeah, the Crux Crux,

1069
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: the Crux marblehead and we are drinking hersh h I

1070
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: R s c h. This is the Horizon straight bourbon

1071
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: whiskey coming in at ninety two proof.

1072
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: My cubes melting a little bit.

1073
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Uh oh, there we go.

1074
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: Got rid of that extra water. I'm just gonna dump

1075
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: it in there. There we go.

1076
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: That's the sign that it's fresh. And you know when

1077
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: we add things to a cube. Fingers boy adds a

1078
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: little water to his water brings down proof. That's that's

1079
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: what it does. But also changes the the feel of

1080
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: the bourbon. Some flavors more pronounced, some more muted. And

1081
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: so we try it in all the ways. We start

1082
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: with it neat. We then move it to the cube

1083
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: or a little bit of water to see how it goes.

1084
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: Hersh h I R s c h. We're gonna figure

1085
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: o if this is in the liquor cabinet.

1086
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: He's going in ladies and gentlemen and he wow, not

1087
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: the biggest sip I've ever seen. Ah, there he goes.

1088
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: He's going in for seconds and boy, so how did

1089
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: that cube change things for you?

1090
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: That's really nice, that's really nice. I think it took

1091
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: out a little bit of the cinnamon that's that's present

1092
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: in the in the palette. This nose was was was vanilla.

1093
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: This nose was was oak, a little bit of a

1094
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: I like a fruit punch back, but not overly sweet.

1095
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: There's still a little bit of the fruit that happens

1096
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: on the palette. There's definitely a vanilla there. The oak

1097
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: it does exist. It's got a little bit of creaminess

1098
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: going on. Uh. This is really pleasant, like super pleasant.

1099
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: This would be, as I said, milkshake bourbon ten. We

1100
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: were trying to think of mixed drink bourbon. No, we

1101
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: always start with the old fashion. I don't know how

1102
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: that cinnamon would play it at old fashion. But there's

1103
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: a lot here to enjoy. Now you add a little

1104
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,479
Speaker 1: bit of water to yours.

1105
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: Now, of course, in old fashion, if they're making it, uh,

1106
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: you know, in a shaker, and we'll have some of

1107
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: the ice that may dilute the a little bit and

1108
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: maybe take some of that cinnamon away.

1109
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe it will be up.

1110
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: I took out my droplet and I put a couple

1111
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: drops of cool water in mind.

1112
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: You know you're not you. People have sent you eye

1113
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: droppers to add a little bit of water, and you

1114
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: still don't use it.

1115
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: I see them every week in my studio and I

1116
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 2: mean to grab them, and for some reason, I'm listen,

1117
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm just your typical blue collar joe who is aging

1118
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: a little bit and sometimes I'm a little bit forgetful.

1119
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: Just write yourself a note.

1120
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: Write myself a note. Yes, nineteen seventy two.

1121
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: Those people didn't forget their droppers.

1122
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: Well that's fair, all right. I'm going in.

1123
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: He's going in. He's at a little bit of water

1124
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: to see if that will change the complexion of the

1125
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: complexity of the bourbon. Right there, fingers will woy for me,

1126
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: for you.

1127
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: It brought out a little bit more of the oak,

1128
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 2: took away a little bit of that rye spice. See

1129
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: I was getting a little bit more of the rye

1130
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: than you were.

1131
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not getting that in the slightest. It's

1132
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: all They say that it's a higher rye. Yeah, and

1133
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: I was picking that up on my palate. That's gone away.

1134
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: The vanilla is still there. But none of these notes

1135
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: really hits you. Everything's subtle. And for me, I would

1136
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: rather have the vanilla. I would rather have the oak.

1137
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Not that you don't like rye, but I would like

1138
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: a little less rye. So this actually plays pretty well

1139
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: for me, but I would like a little bit more oak,

1140
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more vanilla. Is this in your liquor cabinet? Now?

1141
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: I gotta go through three prices with you. Okay. They

1142
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: say that the MSRP on this is forty dollars? Okay,

1143
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: at forty dollars. Is this in your liquor cabinet? Yes?

1144
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: I have seen it on on the shelves for thirty

1145
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: five dollars. Yes, I got this for twenty four ninety niners.

1146
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

1147
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: I would have a couple of bottles of this in

1148
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: my liquor cabinet, not just for me, but when I

1149
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: have guests over. This plays for the table. Now, like

1150
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: you said, would it be something that a hardcore bourbon

1151
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: drinker is going to say, oh my, this is this

1152
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: is the juice right here? Probably not probably, but for

1153
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: the entire table everyone could enjoy absolutely.

1154
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: Twenty four ninety nine all day, not a question, absolutely,

1155
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: not easy, enjoyable, Definitely something to talk about, Definitely some

1156
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: flavors to engage hersh hio. And by the way, at

1157
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: forty dollars, I can see it. Thirty five dollars. I

1158
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: psychologically like, okay, yeah, I give this a go.

1159
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 2: Twenty four ninety nine. Undoubtedly this is the gift giving.

1160
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: Hey, try this.

1161
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering as we move further and further into

1162
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, if we're gonna see more bargains like

1163
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: this in the bourbon market because people have juice and

1164
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: it's not selling because there's not as much bourbon.

1165
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe, but it's time fingers. Why for news of

1166
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: the week.

1167
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: Tony, let's stick to the theme of things don't taste

1168
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: quite like they used to. The story comes from People magazine.

1169
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's where I go for all my what

1170
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: do things taste like?

1171
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: News?

1172
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: Brad Reese, the grandson of candy maker HB. Reese, the

1173
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: gents who created Reese's Peanut Butter Cuffs, or so it

1174
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: is pronounced reeses. I was gonna say, Tony, calls it

1175
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: reces In a letter posted on LinkedIn, claimed that Reese's

1176
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: identity is being rewritten by replacing milk chop and peanut

1177
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: butter with compound coatings and peanut butter style creams.

1178
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: He's saying that.

1179
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: Hershey Company is not making Reese's Peanut butter cups like

1180
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: they used to Reese's or excuse me. Hershey Company responded

1181
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: to people saying, we're making him the same way we

1182
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: always have. So my question to you is, now, I

1183
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: know you're not a huge Riese's Peanut butter cup guy, Like, what.

1184
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: Are you even talking about?

1185
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: I feel like whenever we talk about Reese's Peanut butter cups,

1186
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: it's always the oh wow, you know what. Ree's Peanut

1187
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: butter cups are good? But have you tried the Riese's

1188
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: Easter Egg or the Christmas Tree?

1189
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: I want the basics. I don't want any of the

1190
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: other crap. The Reese's Peanut butter cup is fantastic.

1191
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it has changed over time?

1192
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. And what I think has to happen

1193
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: is that the people at Hershey, which owns Raesis, they

1194
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: need to invite us right now to Hershey Pennsylvania. So

1195
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: we fingers Moy and I at Eat Drink Smoke and

1196
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: Eat Drink Smoke Show can investigate on behalf of each

1197
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: Drink Smoke Nation to ensure that the Reese's Peanut Butter

1198
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: Cup is living up to its name and has maintained

1199
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: the proper standards.

1200
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: What I like about you is that you're willing to

1201
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: sacrifice for each drink smokation I am.

1202
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: Do you know I? Why is that? Because I love?

1203
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: Would you say that your life's mission is to live,

1204
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: laugh and love?

1205
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: No, it is to make sure that the scoundrel corporatists

1206
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: are not destroying the youths of America by making a

1207
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: subpar peanut butter chocolate product.

1208
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: I agree with you, comrade, one hundred percent. And having

1209
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: said that, what we need to do well I heard

1210
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: what did you say, corporate corporatists? Corporatists? I will say this,

1211
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: at the very least, if we can't make it to

1212
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: the Hershey's factory next week, we need a bucket of

1213
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Reese's Peanut butter cups right in the middle of the

1214
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: table and we'll just keep consuming them throughout the show.

1215
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: For the record, we have time to make it to

1216
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: the to the factory. We will make that out. We'll

1217
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: drive ourselves. We have the time, we have the know how,

1218
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: we have the insulin. We can we can do this.

1219
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: Two gold medals, the women's hockey team, the men's hockey team,

1220
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: both in overtime, both against Canada.

1221
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: Very cool te drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

1222
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: That's America's favorite amateur drinker fingers maloy, And I will

1223
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: tell you when the Olympics started a couple of weeks back,

1224
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what was starting. I didn't know

1225
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: where the fanfare was. There was, you know you. We

1226
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: would watch the opening ceremonies, right, and it's always this

1227
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: cool thing. I didn't hear anybody talking about it now,

1228
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: maybe because I don't watch any more broadcast television. In

1229
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: that way, it's changed how we see things and how

1230
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: we do things. But then you started watching some of

1231
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: the curling stuff and some of the crazy things I

1232
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: happened to did curling as a sport. I think that

1233
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: thing can be nationwide. I think people will watch it

1234
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: because they they can see themselves playing the sport. You

1235
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: could see like these these aren't like what you see

1236
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: on a basketball court or on a football field, you

1237
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: could do this. You could figure out the angles. It's

1238
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of pool, it's a little bit of shuffleboard,

1239
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: it's a.

1240
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: Little bit of what did you call it, it's cornhole

1241
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: on ice.

1242
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: Awesome. People could do this, and I think that people

1243
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: will watch because some of the shots were unbelievable in

1244
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: how they're figuring out the angles and moving the other

1245
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: people's stones on team stones out of the way. It

1246
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: was very, very very cool. But the hockey stuff where

1247
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: you have these two insane overtime wins, you have the

1248
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: US defeating Canada because well it's Canada and it's hockey,

1249
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: and it's there, it's their sport. And then you have

1250
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: all the political stuff that's taking place with tariffs and

1251
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: and and angers. The former Prime minister Justin hud know,

1252
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: the current Prime Minister Mark Carney, and of course America's like, ah,

1253
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: we beat the Canadians and just how they did it,

1254
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: and these teams and they're cheering, they're like they're singing

1255
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: God Bless America, they're singing the national anthem when the

1256
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: gold medals are given, and that the guys are just

1257
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: going absolutely nuts. And so people were posting about it

1258
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: left and right, And then people who are just these

1259
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: constant trolls on social media are like, oh, sure, now

1260
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: you're hopping on the bandwagon. You mean the bandwagon of

1261
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: seeing America win a gold medal. Yes, I'm totally hopping

1262
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: on that bandwagon. People get angry about everything all They

1263
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: can't even celebrate America winning, can't be like, hey, glad,

1264
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: everyone's celebrating this thing. Good on them, very cool. Ain't

1265
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: that fun?

1266
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: Anyone who's been alive for any period of time who

1267
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: has watched the Olympics realizes that the Olympics is one

1268
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: giant bandwagon, the whole thing ridiculous to make a statement

1269
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: like that. You know, being from Michigan, hockey is a

1270
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: big deal in Michigan. When I lived up there, I

1271
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: never missed a regular season Red Wings game when it

1272
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: was on TV, And I argue, in all of sports,

1273
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: there is nothing more exciting than overtime playoff hockey. For

1274
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: both of these games to end in overtime, yeah, one shot,

1275
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: boom and it's over. It's just so incredible to watch.

1276
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: And if you didn't see the women's overtime win, I'm

1277
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: forgetting her name right now? Would you look it up?

1278
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: Would you look it up please? I want to make

1279
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: sure she gets a credit. That move, the centering of

1280
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: the puck to herself to be able to take that

1281
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: shot is an absolute work of art. It's fat. The

1282
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: only way it's better if she had done it.

1283
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: Behind her back like it was Megan Keller.

1284
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: Unbelievable that move, the one on one and then being

1285
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: able to take the shot. With the Men, it was.

1286
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Speaker 1: It was being able to get the break and keep

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Speaker 1: control of it, and then being able to cross the

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Speaker 1: ice there to be able to set up that final shot.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic for the Men is the first time they have

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Speaker 1: won gold since the Miracle on ice since nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: And for those of you playing the home game, that

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Speaker 1: was nine thousand years ago, twenty six sorry, forty six

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Speaker 1: years ago. And there were guys from the eighty team.

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Speaker 1: Michael Ruzioni is the name we all know, but there

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Speaker 1: was a whole team there. We're there, crazy, crazy cool,

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Speaker 1: But people are like are somehow they want to be

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Speaker 1: angry about this thing. I'm only stunned that a the

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Speaker 1: Olympics didn't get more fanfare to begin with, and then

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Speaker 1: the first thing we heard is the Olympics started were

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Speaker 1: these skiers and snow. Some others are like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: America's got some problems, and they started getting political. You

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Speaker 1: can have different politics than me, you can disagree with things,

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Speaker 1: but this is the Olympics. If you're not interested in

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Speaker 1: celebrating your country or at least supporting your country, don't

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Speaker 1: ask for our support. And don't be stunned that when

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Speaker 1: you see these women singing the national anthem and the

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Speaker 1: crowd is singing the national anthem. When you see these guys,

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Speaker 1: these men, how much they love the country and so

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be able to do it for the country

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people are like, awesome, that's great.

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Speaker 1: That's all we could ever ask for. Good on you.

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Speaker 2: Well, for the longest time, it was a tradition, whether

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Speaker 2: it was sports or politics, all those debates about what's

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Speaker 2: happening in the country at the particular time to the side. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in the country, it was okay to have those debates.

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Speaker 2: But once you left the country and you went overseas,

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Speaker 2: you put all that aside because you're representing the United States.

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Speaker 2: The soorry of you know, the guy who got the

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Speaker 2: game winning goal for the Americans in men's hockey Jack Hughes.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he did that while he had one

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Speaker 2: tooth knocked out and another one chipped, and there's a

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Speaker 2: photo circulating of him smiling and seeing his mouth jacked

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Speaker 2: up right and he continued to play. That's just the

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Speaker 2: toughness of hockey players coming through right there in one photo.

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Speaker 2: And then there's the you know in the In the

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Speaker 2: follow up, there's the story of Alyssa.

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Speaker 1: Lou and Eileen gou So. Aileen gu is an American

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Speaker 1: who decided that she was going to compete this the

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Speaker 1: second time she's done this for China. She competes under

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Speaker 1: the Chinese flag, and she won a gold medal, and

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Speaker 1: she's a skiing halfpipe I believe it is, and she's

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Speaker 1: she's very good, but she's an American. She's competing for China,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, don't ask me to cheer for you.

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Speaker 1: And she's taken, you know, criticism for this, and she

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Speaker 1: said she feels like a punching bag. You feel like

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Speaker 1: a punching bag that's filled with Chinese cash. Millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars have been given to her for doing this, and

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Speaker 1: don't be surprised when people are like, well, we think

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Speaker 1: that's pretty ugly. Alyssa lou on the gold medal in

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Speaker 1: figure skating, which is the crazy story. She was like

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Speaker 1: a national champion when she was thirteen, and she stopped

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Speaker 1: and then she said, I want to come back four

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Speaker 1: years break and you think you're gonna come back now

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Speaker 1: she's only eighteen. It's an unbelievable story. It's a remarkable story.

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Speaker 1: And yes, a couple things had to happen with some

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Speaker 1: of the other skaters for her to be in this position,

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Speaker 1: but she still did the thing, and she was She's

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Speaker 1: extraordinarily graceful. If you saw her gold medal routine, it

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Speaker 1: really is something else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go back to something you said earlier,

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Speaker 2: because I think it's really important how people don't consume

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Speaker 2: content anymore in the traditional way of broadcast television. I'm

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Speaker 2: so divorced from all this because I have cut the

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Speaker 2: cord and I don't come home every night and turn

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Speaker 2: on what's on ABCCBS, NBC. I could not even tell

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Speaker 2: you right now as we're speaking where the Olympics was.

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Speaker 1: It was in your backyard. If you had just opened

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Speaker 1: up your.

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Speaker 2: Bark that's why all those people were there Milan Milon

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Speaker 2: Quartina in Italy.

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Speaker 1: You've seen pictures. It looks like a boot, but don't

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Speaker 1: be so. But the point is like Alyssa lu Wins

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Speaker 1: were like congratulations. And her father was a dissident from

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Speaker 1: Tianaman Square, came to America. The Chinese were trying to

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Speaker 1: pressure him and everything else. It's an amazing story. We

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Speaker 1: do attract ourselves to those stories. We do gravitate them.

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Speaker 1: We cheer these people. And yet you have people who

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Speaker 1: are like, oh, you're only cheering because of this, and

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Speaker 1: oh you're only on vandwagon. God, people are miserable.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Olympics. I mean, go back to the

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty miracle on ice right, that was nothing but

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Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty on a grand scale. But then

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Speaker 2: magic happened and they wanted us magical run and they

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Speaker 2: beat the Soviets. People were jumping on the band That's

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Speaker 2: what the Olympics is.

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