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Speaker 1: Why from ball Heartland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. The markets really do like it

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Speaker 2: when you protect the Strait of Hormuz. Oh, they're never

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Speaker 3: And it's just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And of course the US is saying there's a peace

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Speaker 3: Now, if you ask.

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Speaker 2: Me, I'll tell you I have no idea what the

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Speaker 2: day when it comes to the idea of a peace plan,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the idea that somehow magically we

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Speaker 4: The city terrain as opposed to Iran. We're roaming free.

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Speaker 4: We can do whatever we want. And as you know today,

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Speaker 4: we were going to have the privilege of shooting down

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Speaker 4: the plant. It collapses, and we held off based on

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Speaker 5: What do you think was the turning point to make

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Speaker 5: you want to pursue a cease fire? A few days ago,

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Speaker 5: you know, you said you wanted to continue bombing around

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Speaker 4: Was there something that they're talking to us and they're

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Speaker 4: talking sense? And remember it all starts that they cannot

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Speaker 4: have a nuclear weapon. Just you know, I said yesterday,

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Speaker 4: And we're talking about that. I don't want to say

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Speaker 3: They've agreed to that.

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Speaker 2: The question, of course is who is agreed to that?

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Speaker 2: Who possibly has agreed to that? But neither here nor there.

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Speaker 2: The markets here are we've got peace, and they're like

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Speaker 2: who market goes nuts? Tony Katz Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 3: Guys, good to be here, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Find everything I do over at Tony kats dot com.

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Speaker 2: The show sheet didn't get up yesterday. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what I did wrong. I apologize. I apologize for that.

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Speaker 2: I'll make up for it today snacks for everybody. Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz dot com. I don't know who this peace deal

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Speaker 3: I'm not opposed. I will admit that I am.

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Speaker 2: Opposed to the idea that there's gonna be some kind

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Speaker 2: if any part of the regime is still in place,

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Speaker 2: if we're dealing with this Iranian Parliament speaker Mohammed bagger

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Speaker 2: Gadibuff he's a hardliner. Oh, but he's a pragmatic hardliner.

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Speaker 3: Stop it. Does he want.

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Speaker 2: Dead Jews, dead Israel, call America the Great Satan and

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Speaker 3: Yes? Or no? As he waits for the twelfth Emam, because.

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Speaker 2: If so, it's just a guy with a different hat.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want us to lie to ourselves. I

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Speaker 2: We may have delayed something here, and there is a

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Speaker 2: pragmatism to that, but we haven't done something if we

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Speaker 3: Pursuit of nuclear anything.

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Speaker 2: And then President Trump yesterday, this was an odd moment

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Speaker 4: They're going to make it do They did something yesterday

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Speaker 4: worth a tremendous amount of money. And I'm not going

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Speaker 4: I wasn't nuclear related. I was oil and gas related.

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Speaker 3: Well, who doesn't like oil and gas?

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Speaker 2: And since this whole conversation is about oil and gas,

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Speaker 2: straight of hormones. You can't trust the Iranians at all.

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Speaker 2: Now what exactly did we talk about? Just think maybe

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Speaker 2: what an opportunity that is. Let's not kid ourselves. Let's

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Speaker 2: not pretend. And when you're dealing with the United States

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Speaker 2: in a personality like Trump, these nations actually get a

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Speaker 3: Tough against him.

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Speaker 2: All politics are local, whether you agree or disagree, leave

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Speaker 2: It's not that okay, here's how they view it, but

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Speaker 2: based on what we see. That's what influencers say, But

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Speaker 3: Rational people.

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Speaker 2: Take a look at the conversation and then of course

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Speaker 2: are better off saying whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You

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Speaker 2: and we're not here to just clean up your mess.

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Speaker 2: And but now here comes Britain, because remember Britain wouldn't

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Speaker 2: there was a report about a Ran firing missiles at

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Speaker 3: In the days ahead.

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Speaker 2: It was Naval Today that had the story, as I

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Speaker 2: Right, we've got a piece deal, but they're still firing missiles.

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Speaker 2: Now we should also note everything is about telling a story.

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Speaker 2: what you're going to say, do I care. No, I'm

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Speaker 2: Maybe that got the interest of the United Kingdom, and

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Speaker 2: Cure Starmer, because there was a conversation between President Trump

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Speaker 2: You knew it the minute I brought it up. You're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: I can see that. Politically now he's leading something. Now,

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Speaker 2: Of course, that's different, And of course you would be

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: But does Trump get out of it what he needs

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Speaker 2: We are trying to do this thing for the world,

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Speaker 2: and you attack one of our ships. All the world's

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Speaker 2: not going to stand for that. And Great Britain has

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Speaker 2: All politics are local. Once you start taking a look

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Speaker 2: But the move helps the United States and the move

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Speaker 2: tell you specifically what that means.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get an answer to that.

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Speaker 2: And if you guys know, if somebody knows who knows

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Speaker 2: this business, Tony at tony kats dot com, send me

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Speaker 3: I'd love to get.

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Speaker 2: if it's just no, it's just because these things are

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Speaker 2: traveling through the oceans. It's just taking a little bit longer. Right,

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Speaker 2: there could be a bunch of reasons.

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Speaker 3: But the the.

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Speaker 2: And the markets today, you.

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Speaker 3: You know them right. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today Speaker Mike Johnson delivering a

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Speaker 2: thanks for being here talking me about the murder of

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Speaker 2: Sheridan Gorman. She was killed in Chicago by an illegal

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Speaker 2: How dare you speak poorly of immigrants? We're talking about

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Speaker 5: And we know that Medina Medina entered the United States

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Speaker 2: I very much appreciate this kind of talk. They did this,

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Speaker 2: It's actually a takeoff of a line Donald Trump used

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Speaker 3: In Venezuela. It's not that socialism has.

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Speaker 2: Been implemented improperly, it's that it was implemented faithfully.

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Speaker 3: That's why it's a disaster, and that's why democratic policies

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Speaker 3: are disasters. Remember that come the midterms. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: It's more than probable, more than possible. It's probable that

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Speaker 2: you're not familiar with the name Kara Swisher, which is

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Speaker 2: okay because you're not somebody reading the New York Times

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Speaker 2: or watching CNN. Because mostly you love yourself. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today, Good to be here, good to be

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Speaker 3: What. I'm not in charge of CNN's programming.

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Speaker 2: If I was in charge of CNN's programming, I would

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Speaker 2: I had said when when Jim Acosta, in the most

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Speaker 2: like seven hundred and fifty grand. Now you could argue, hey,

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Speaker 3: And he was like, I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go about starting my own podcast. Okay, man,

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Speaker 2: go start your own podcast. I'm not here to stop you.

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Speaker 2: But for anybody thinking of starting their own podcast.

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Speaker 3: You start the podcast.

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Speaker 2: If you're on traditional media, you do not start the

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

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Speaker 7: He is married to a woman of Indian descent. He

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Speaker 3: So to all of the.

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Speaker 2: Defend his kids from? What? What are you possibly referring to?

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Speaker 2: Her name is Jennifer Welch. She's like this new face

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Speaker 3: She is the poster child of being a Karen.

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Speaker 2: Whatever affluent suburb is near where you live, that's where

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Speaker 3: And guaranteed she's on the HOA board.

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Speaker 2: Why you bring up his kids? What do you mean

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Speaker 2: He married the woman, and I'm pretty sure he may

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Speaker 3: You don't think he noticed? What argument is this? What

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Speaker 2: But this on the political left, as Chris Hayes is

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Speaker 3: Jim Acosta was never a journalist.

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Speaker 2: Jimcassatu was a leftist who was on CNN and his

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Speaker 2: job was to attack President Trump. Not because Jim Acosta

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Speaker 2: I will take midnight to two. I do a morning

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Speaker 2: midnight to two am. Pay me half of the seven

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Speaker 2: just round it up to four hundred, and I will

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Speaker 2: have better ratings than Jim Acosta ever had in six

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Speaker 2: I will have better ratings, will be a more entertaining show.

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Speaker 2: You will love it. And then you'll what you paid him,

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Speaker 2: You know what, You'll pay me a little bit more

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Speaker 3: That's the business. Boo boo. That's how it works.

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Speaker 2: By the way, follow me on YouTube, Tony Katz, be

442
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Speaker 2: sure to subscribe Jim Acosta two hundred and forty eight

443
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Speaker 2: thousand subscribers. That is a lot of people living in

444
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Speaker 2: their mom's basement and angry liberal white women.

445
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Speaker 3: Kara Swisher, She's got a show.

446
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: Coming to CNN. Kara Swisher wants to live forever. So

447
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: I guess it's about tech and it's about longevity and

448
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: how people will will survive and are trying to survive.

449
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Speaker 3: And that's what the show is about.

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Speaker 2: Except now she's come out to say that with the

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Speaker 2: new purchase of CNN by Paramount Skydance, because Paramount Skuydance,

452
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Speaker 2: which is owned by Ellison, is purchasing.

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Speaker 3: Would want her own CNN.

454
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: Ellison, Larry Allison, of course, Oracle David Allison is the Sun.

455
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: They purchased Paramount, which is of course CBS.

456
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Speaker 3: They put in Barry Weiss.

457
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Speaker 2: As the editor in chief, and layoffs started to happen.

458
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: They just ended the whole radio world of CBS. CBS

459
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 2: radio was around for almost one hundred years. It is

460
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: kind of nutty that it took place, but it's also

461
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: the way things go and people quit and then they

462
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: were laid off, and it's funny. One of the guys

463
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: who was laid off said, hey, I got a new job.

464
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Speaker 2: It's the most liberal outfit possible. It's called Midas Touch

465
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: and their whole job is to be anti Trump the

466
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: whole that's their whole purpose.

467
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Speaker 3: That's where he got a job. So really no change for.

468
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 2: Him because of this purchase, and because of people hating

469
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Speaker 2: Barry Weiss, who is not a conservative, but she believes

470
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Speaker 2: in free speech and she actually wants to build a newsroom.

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Speaker 2: Kars Swisher is now saying that when this takeover takes.

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Speaker 3: Place, she's going to leave.

473
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: The moment Paramount's guidance completes the takeover of Warner Brothers, She's.

474
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Speaker 3: She's leaving.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea what's gonna happen. You're going to

476
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: quit before they have a chance to fire you. That's

477
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: clearly the way to take this right. That's clearly what

478
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: it is. That's Whatcher's saying here. She knows she's going

479
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: to be fired because she knows that everything that she discusses,

480
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: because somehow she's been allowed to be this opinion person,

481
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: is all progressive nonsense and nothing that is rational. Now,

482
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: when CNN hired Chris lived, I had high hopes for.

483
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Speaker 3: Him as the CEO.

484
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: His job was to reset CNN into a to a

485
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: worthy model, and it didn't work. Lots of resistance, lots

486
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: of leaks, and then and he was let go. It

487
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: really stinks for him Now, maybe he wasn't the leader

488
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: that was necessary. I don't know the man, I don't

489
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: know all the internals, but I do know that CNN

490
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: wants to be this a progressive outfit claiming to be decent.

491
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: They don't apologize for pushing Russa, Russia, Russia, they don't

492
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: apologize for pushing any COVID scams, they don't apologize for

493
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: hiding Hunter Biden, and they still have the audacity to

494
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: claim that they're the decent ones. You watch Abby Phillip

495
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: on her show Abby Phillip Tonight, a show that could

496
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: have been monumental for CNN in making this pivot and

497
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't have taken much and instead support every leftist on

498
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: the show attack Scott Jennings all day, all night, all

499
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Speaker 2: the time, and that guy handles himself like no one

500
00:28:53,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: you've ever seen. It's super impressive, super duper oppressive. CNN

501
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: hasn't changed a bit. They are still the Jim Acosta place,

502
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: They're still the Jim Acosta station. If she is indeed

503
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: telling the truth that she's going to be gone. The

504
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: question being asked was actually asked by Garrett Seawright in

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Speaker 2: one of the radio trades called Barrett Media Barrettmedia dot Com.

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Speaker 3: It's the right question.

507
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: Is kar Switcher on her own or other people going

508
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Speaker 2: to follow suit? Will other people quit CNN because of

509
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Speaker 2: the takeover? And my answer is gosh, I hope so.

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Speaker 3: Good. Let them leave.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how much talent is out there, Tony,

512
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: you're just talking about yourself. Oh yeah, sure, though, be

513
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: a great opportunity as long as I didn't have to

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Speaker 2: do one of those kinds of shows, right I I

515
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: know I could do it, like as a host. I'm

516
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: fully aware that I could do the Hannity type show.

517
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's what I want.

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Speaker 3: Could I do the Brett.

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Speaker 2: Bar kind of show, Yes, I could. I would be

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00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: more interested in the Tim Russer esque kind of show.

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Speaker 2: And you could argue, isn't that what Brettbaar does? And

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Speaker 2: I would say, I would think that there's a little

523
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Speaker 2: more rigidness to Brettbear's timeslot, and I would want a

524
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: little more expansiveness. So that's where I make the difference,

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Speaker 2: not disparaging Brett Baer in the slightest.

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Speaker 3: But what I really want is late night. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, what I really want to do

528
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Speaker 2: is direct. No, what I would really want is late

529
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Speaker 2: night for sure. Absolutely, I think there's more room in

530
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Speaker 2: that space. And I think that if you mix comedy

531
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Speaker 2: with kind of the the interview long form interview concepts

532
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: Larry King, Oh, who's the guy who ended up taking

533
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: off his pants in front of people?

534
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Speaker 3: Charlie Rose.

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Speaker 2: The name Charlie Rose, right, that kind of stuff like

536
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: I always wanted to do the longer form meets Playboy

537
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: after dark with the cigar, with the bourbon, everything else

538
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: and kind of get kind of get.

539
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Speaker 3: Into it with with all sorts of people.

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Speaker 2: That's where I'd like to be a little more comedy,

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Speaker 2: willing to be.

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Speaker 3: To laugh, kind of focused.

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Speaker 2: I would say that's where i'd want to be, and

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Speaker 2: I would show I absolutely want.

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Speaker 3: To do and still want to do.

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00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot of people out there, and

547
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Speaker 2: you could probably name one hundred people, you know what,

548
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: maybe not one hundred, you can name five. You give

549
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: it five minutes a thought, you'll come up with five

550
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: people you listen to.

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Speaker 3: They'd be like Yep, they would do a great job.

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00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: There's so much good talent out there that doesn't get

553
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: the chance. And you say to me, who would want

554
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Speaker 3: to be on CNN?

555
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: And what I would say to you is, we don't

556
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Speaker 2: know what CNN is going to be yet.

557
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: We don't know. And with the new ownership, if you're

558
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: going to.

559
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: Lose these people, there's a chance to remake it into something.

560
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be a conservative something, no, but

561
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: it could offer up perspectives and ideas and thoughts and

562
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: simply not be hateful maybe more to the point, and yes,

563
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: hateful is a huge part of it. Not be so

564
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: full of crap. CNN is full of garbage. They lie

565
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: to themselves and they lie to us every single day

566
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: about them not having a slant and not having a.

567
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: Bias at least say so.

568
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Speaker 2: My name's Tony Katz. I'm a conservative. I don't apologize

569
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Speaker 2: for a damn thing. And if you don't like it,

570
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: tell your mother to kiss off. I don't care.

571
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Speaker 3: This is it, kittens, This is.

572
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Speaker 2: Who I am, and this is what I'm doing. And

573
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: if you want to give me Katari money to change

574
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: my mind, I'm gonna say sorry. There are other guys

575
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: out there that you might want to go to. This

576
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: is it, This is the show want to do. These

577
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: are the conversations I want to have. This is how

578
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: I want to engage. And I think that there's room

579
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: for a whole bunch of stuff. I don't think that

580
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: you have to not listen to other people, not engage

581
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: with other people. But I surely sell don't want to

582
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: engage with other people who are gonna start with, well,

583
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: you know Trump's a pedophile.

584
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: No he's not. That's crap, and that's the stuff you dismiss.

585
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: But people who might disagree with the policy of Trump,

586
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 2: well I'll talk to them. Disagree with the policy of

587
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: Israel and talk to them too, or England or France,

588
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: which I disagree with many of their policies, specifically immigration policies.

589
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: There's a great opportunity here. Why would I say no

590
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: to it? Why would anybody? We don't know what we're

591
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: gonna get. That's my point about Kara Swishes. She doesn't

592
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: know what she's gonna get, but she's already out the door,

593
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: which means she knows what she's giving. What she's giving

594
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: is needed, what she's giving isn't good, What she's giving

595
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: doesn't get ratings, and most importantly, what she's giving precludes

596
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: the importance of honesty, which is what happens when you

597
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: disagree with your own team. You got to say so

598
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: and you see it and people won't do it. So yeah,

599
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: let the takeover happen. Show these people the door, and

600
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: no one is going to miss kar Switcher.

601
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Speaker 3: No one. Let me say it again, no one. I'm

602
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Speaker 3: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

603
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Speaker 2: So Meta is found guilty and has to pay three

604
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five million dollars in fines. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. The claim is that Meta failed to

606
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Speaker 2: protect kids from sexual predators and misled users. They're appealing

607
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: the case, but that's not the part I think we

608
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: should pay attention to, although we should see how the

609
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 2: appeal goes. It's not a court is willing to say

610
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: to a tech company, to a social media platform, you're

611
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: not doing enough, which now leads to two things. Number one,

612
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: what happens when they start doing enough? What gets curtailed?

613
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: Does that mean your ability to speak gets curtailed? Does

614
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: that mean the bots and all the fake users suddenly go?

615
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: And if they go where is their money because don't

616
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: they make a lot of money from that? This case,

617
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: which isn't getting much play because of course everything happened

618
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: with Iran and oil prices and is there really going

619
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Speaker 2: to be an end to this war? Who in the

620
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: world could you possibly be negotiating with? This case has

621
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Speaker 2: ramifications that we don't even know yet. Does this cause

622
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: smaller players to get out of the game? Does it

623
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: require them to have less users? I'm telling you remember

624
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: this because we're going to be hearing about this and

625
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: it's reverberations for a while.

626
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Speaker 3: Find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow. Everyone, take

627
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Speaker 3: care

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Speaker 6: In a NA