1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to Rob Kendall. When we talk about sending 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: money somewhere, we're talking about printing the money because we 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: have no money. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: And Casey Daniels, my government would never lie to me, 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: would they. On nighty three wy PC, the Lieutenant Governor 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: still won't release the supposed investigation that cleared his guys 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: in ai Porngate. So the story, well, it goes on, 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: and let's get to the bottom of the latest and 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: what's allegedly happening. It's Kennelly Casey Show and Rob Casey's 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: out today. Jerry Lopez Indie Spanglish on Twitter. In four Casey, 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: let's go to the WIBC hotline. The guy who broke 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: the story and has been putting out updates on it 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: on the regular. Freelance journalist Tom labianco joins us Now. 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 3: Tom, Hello, Hey, Hey, how's it going all right? 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: So you had a big thing, Yester, big update even 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: sort of putting these out on the on the regular 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: as information comes your way that Braun and the Lieutenant 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Governor Micae beeck With had a meeting. This was allegedly discussed. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Do we know what took place in the meeting between 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: the Governor Mike Braun and Lieutenant Governor Michael Beckwett. 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: Pretty hush hush about what they talked about. Inside. There 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: also some competing stories from the folks I talked to 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: about whether this was planned or unplanned. The Lieutenant Governor's 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: office says, this is a regular meeting that they have, 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: but of courses, you know, we know if the regular 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: WIBC listeners know. If you listen to Governor Braun on 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: the Tony Kats Show, he said that he called them 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: in specifically to talk about the deep fake story. 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: And nobody nobody's made any comment on this, Like Braun 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: didn't come out and so I had a great chat 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: where you don't get to the bottom of it. Beckwett 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: didn't say anything, which is weird that he so nothing. 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: I it is strange to me as somebody who has 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: covered politics for about twenty five years now, it is 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: strange to me how loud beck With and his team 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: war at the beginning of this story for about a 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: week and a half and how quiet everybody has gotten now. 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Tom labianco freelance journalist, joins us. Now he's the guy 39 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: who broke the AI Porngate story. All right, So let 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about that for a second, because I just 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: want to see the investigation if indeed there is an investigation, 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: and Tom no offense. You seem like a nice enough guy. 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: But if indeed there's some sort of investigation that proves 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: in one day that Micah beck With cleared these guys 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: and that you have made this story up, I want 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: justice for those guys because you named them and I've 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: said they should see you for everything you've got. I 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: guess you would welcome seeing that investigation too. That would 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: prove you wrong. 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And you know, look for everybody listening, head 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: on over to twenty four site news. It's number two 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 3: four sight dot News. You know, as I wrote in 53 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: my latest piece, I have filed two public records requests 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: with his all office. One is for the new employee handbook, 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: which was just issued this week. 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Wait wait, okay, so so expand that for just a seconds. 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: I don't want to beer off course too much here, 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: but this was a part of the breaking piece you 59 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: put out the other day, which is now there's supposedly 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: this new employee handbook or guidelines or whatever. 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: Yes, right, According to the folks I've talked to, are 62 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: familiar with this, they said. A new handbook was issued 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: on Monday. Now the Lieutenant Governor's office says that they've 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: made they characterize it as minor edits, and the easiest 65 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: way to answer that is the easiest way to answer 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: the investigation question, which is, okay, public document. This is 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: being done on public time with public money. Rob, you 68 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: paid for it, I don't know, like a penny or 69 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: something maybe whatever that is. It's like, so, I mean 70 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: I think that you know if this is a public 71 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: I know it's a public document, so just you know, 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: distribute it, which is super easy. Same thing for the investigation. 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: You okay, So let's get back to the investigation because 74 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: people are like, you know, Rob's manipulating this proj tos Like, 75 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to do with any of is. 76 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I didn't break the story. I'm not in the Mary 77 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Ketty Prosecutor's office. I'm not in this alleged grand jury 78 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: which were talking about in a second. I'm reporting the 79 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: news and commentating on the news. You have covered Indiana 80 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: politics and government for a long time, You've covered national 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: politics for a long time. Have you ever seen somebody 82 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: do an investigation, especially one that involves forensics in one 83 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: day on a weekend. 84 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: No, that is no. I would be supremely interested to 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: see what that looks like now. I would like to 86 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: see a real investigation. And something that I've noted before 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: is a peace on Tuesday of this week when when 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: State Ref. Craig Haggard, whose wife was targeted in the 89 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: deep fake video. According to my sources, I noted in 90 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: that story, worry that the Beck within his core team 91 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: seem to be spending more time investigating. Who's talking to. 92 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: Me Tom la Bianco freelance journalists as our guest, he 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: broke the AA Porngate story. We're getting relates on his 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: reporting on that. Okay, So one of the things that 95 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: I think is fascinating is I want to get to 96 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: this alleged grand jury in a second. One of the 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: things that's fascinating to me is the attacks on you. 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: How you they you know, basically you've made all this up, 99 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: You've concocted the story. It's a you know, it's a 100 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: variety of allegations. My question to you is, have you 101 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: ever in all your years of reporting, whether it's for 102 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 1: Indie Starr, Associated Press, your freelance journalists in the books 103 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: you've written. Have you ever been sued for defamation for 104 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: making up things about somebody you've written a story on. No, never, No, 105 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: And you've been at this how long? You've been at 106 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: this for not twenty five years now? So in the 107 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: in the near twenty five years have been doing this. 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: You have never been sued by somebody for making up 109 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: for defamation, for making up allegations in a story about them. 110 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: Correct? Okay, it's a pretty it's a pretty high bar 111 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: to clear. I mean, you know, look, this is something 112 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: that as a professional journalist, and you know at twenty 113 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: four SAT News, I adhere to the training that I 114 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: got at the Associated Press. I you know, we we 115 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: work very hard to verify. There's an old saying in journalism. 116 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: All right, if if your mother says she loves you, 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: check it out, Okay, because that's what that's the bar 118 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: that you have to hit. And you know I tried 119 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: to explain this when you know I talked with beck 120 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: with on that Saturday about two weeks ago now before 121 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: it published. You know, try to make it clear that hey, 122 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: I would not be calling if I was not certain 123 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: of this. 124 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: And what other thing Tom that I think is important 125 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: to point out because they've tried to like label you 126 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: as some sort of a smear merchant, a radical leftist 127 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. Beck With earlier this year invited you into 128 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: his orbit. Correct, Yes, yes, can you explain that what 129 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: went down with that, because I think that's super important 130 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: when they're trying to say these horrible things about you, 131 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: that they let you come They thought enough of you 132 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: to let you come into their orbit for multiple days, right. 133 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is for a separate project I was working 134 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: on called It's a profile of him, So you know, 135 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 3: reporting that for a number of months earlier this year, 136 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: and you know when I reached out to him, you know, 137 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: that is a separate project from this, and I stopped 138 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: reporting on that a little while ago. But when I 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: reached out to him, and this is what's so funny. 140 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: I know that he talks regularly with Caleb Blakesley up 141 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: in Fort Wayne. And I actually, funny enough as a journalist, 142 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: I actually called in the correction to her radio station. 143 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: So she's she's the morning host on WHOA Woe, which 144 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: is the big talk station in Fort Wayne. 145 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, And I called in a correction to 146 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: something that he said on her show. I said, could 147 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: you just, you know, please add this to your story, 148 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: I said. He says that he doesn't know what twenty 149 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: four site news is, and that is incorrect, because when 150 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: I here, I'll pull up the I'm gonna read it 151 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: to you here. He knows. He says that you know 152 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: everything is on the record, so I don't think that's 153 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: you know, it'd be no surprise. This is fairly perfunctory. 154 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: Here's the text that sent him setting things up. When 155 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: I was working on the profile for him. Okay, and 156 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: I said, Hi, Lieutenant Governor Tom Lopianco here, hope you 157 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: were doing well. I'm reporting a profile of you for 158 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: the Indiana Citizen, and twenty four site News wanted to connect. 159 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm at the state House today. Cheers, and then you. 160 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Back, and then you I didn't mean to cut you out, 161 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: but then you proceeded to and I want to hear 162 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: what his response. But then you proceeded to like you 163 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: spent a going to events with him, You were in 164 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: the in the the infamous car with him. Yes, okay, 165 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: go ahead, response. 166 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: Yes it was. I spent a day on the trail 167 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: with him. Basically, I mean, this is you know, it's 168 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: something i'd do. Is somebody who covers politics, you know, 169 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: you go out on the road with politicians all the time. 170 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: And it was great. Look I enjoyed it and I 171 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: learned a lot about him. I think I got a 172 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: lot of key insights into his style of politicking, his 173 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: style of governing. It was very interesting. We had, you know, 174 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: hours of you know, interviews done in the car. Cory 175 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: the driver, real nice guy, he was driving us around. 176 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: We did a oh boy, what was it? It was 177 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 3: the I think it was the Rotary up in Monticello 178 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: and then over to a Lincoln day in Marshall County. 179 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: So for him to say so, for him to say 180 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't know who you are, I mean that's or 181 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: what you're doing, or what that website is, that's complete crap. 182 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's lying about that. 183 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: And that is the real occurring theme. Whether it's the 184 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: car or the stuff that he told us on air 185 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: that proved to be lies, or the how he can't 186 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: tell a consistent, coherent story and how he ended up 187 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: with a high profile known felon, or now this stuff 188 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: about this supposed investigation that was done in one day 189 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: over weekend, Tom, I think that's what's so frustrating to me, 190 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: is it just one story that doesn't compute after another? 191 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: And now him saying this like he has no idea 192 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: who you are when you spent all that time with him. 193 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, you know, you know, I 194 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: don't want to, you know, sound cynical or anything, but 195 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: I mean he is a professional politician, and you know 196 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: that kind it does come with the territory. He's just 197 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: he's very at I will say, at the outset. One 198 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: thing I have found in, you know, in covering him, 199 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: is that at the outset, a lot of people are 200 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: very drawn to him because he is very charismatic. He 201 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: is very engaging in his retail politics is one on 202 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: one politics, but promises do not bear out over time. 203 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: And I think that's where he starts to get into 204 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 3: the lying territory, saying things like he's like, oh, I 205 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: don't know who this reporter is. Well, it's you know, 206 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: documentarily based on documentation. 207 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: Incorrect, Hey, Tom, before I let you go, got it? 208 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: Just a couple of minutes left here. The husband of 209 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: Mike's chief of staff alluded to that there was a 210 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: grand jury. Abdul came on here the other day and 211 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: said there's a grand jury, Abdul said, they're looking into 212 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: way more. This grand jury is looking into way more 213 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: than the AI porn stuff. What do you know about it? 214 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: Here's what I could tell you about the process, so 215 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: I can, you know, start looking into how these things work. 216 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: And you know, my understanding is that in Indiana, you know, 217 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: each county has its own prostutorial process. So for Marion County, 218 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: all right, the grand jury isn't paneled for six months 219 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: at a time, and it takes testimony, you know, on 220 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: a rolling basis basically, So this is not the same 221 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: thing as a federal grand jury where it has to 222 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: be called in. All right, this is this is the 223 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: Marion County grand jury, so it is in place right now. 224 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: The other thing I've learned about this process is that 225 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: when you're speaking with if it's a witness, whoever, is 226 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: speaking with the prosecutor's office. And we do know that 227 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: people have begun talking with the prosecutor's office in this 228 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: investigation that they're doing and to back with and the 229 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: deep fake porn and potentially more. I don't want to 230 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: violate any off the record agreements I've made with sources, 231 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: but could be more. I think that's safe to say 232 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: is that that when you speak with the prosecutor is 233 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: the prosecutor's office, that also can be used as testimony. 234 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: It can be later presented as testimony to the grand jury. 235 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: So there's a couple of ways that could happen. Somebody 236 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: could be called in to testify directly before the grand jury, 237 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: or could actually be you know, just tape to the 238 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: interview with somebody from the prosecutor's office, whoever, Ryan Meers, 239 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: you sit down at the Padda show, you name it. 240 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: Probably not there would probably be a little republic. But 241 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: wherever it happens, that would be then you provided to 242 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: the grand jury. And the other part of this too 243 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: is if they if all right, and then the question 244 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: then is do they decide that there's enough of a 245 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: case whatever it is, to pursue charges. So my understanding 246 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: of the entire thing is that we're pretty early in 247 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: this process. I mean, look, they only started doing this 248 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: after we published the story over at twenty four site News, 249 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: So that was what August second, so about two weeks ago. 250 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: So this is you know, we're still very early in 251 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: this process, all right. 252 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: I people want to stay up to date on your 253 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: reporting on AI porngate and all things related to this story. 254 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: How can they do that? 255 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: Head on over to twenty four site dot news number 256 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: two four si g h T dot News sign up 257 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 3: help support independent journalism. Got more coming. This is a 258 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: don't let, don't let. The cord field of Folio Indiana 259 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: is not boring. There's always wild stories. 260 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Tom Lobianco, thank you, Thanks man. It's KETTL. Casey Show, 261 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC. You said you've never heard of Bob 262 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: Dylan song. 263 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you it was a Bob Dylan song. 264 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: I'm sure I've heard a lot of them. 265 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: Did we have this conversation on the air. 266 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: There's a lot of songs I know. I have no clue. Season. 267 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that just blew my mind. Yeah. It's Kennel 268 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Casey Show and Rob Jerry Lopezan for Casey today. keV 269 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: is here. So thirty year mortgage rates hit their lowest 270 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: level in ten months, but they're actually up from a 271 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: year ago. So the long term thirty year rate, according 272 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: to WTHR and I think this story originated out of 273 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: the Associated Press, fell from six point sixty three to 274 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: six point five eight. However, a year ago it was 275 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: six point four to nine. Now Freddie Mack is the 276 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: source on that. So it's like it's better than it was, 277 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: but it's still it's still higher than it was, and 278 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: it's still largely in the inflated home price world we live, 279 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: prohibited from many people, prohibiting many people from being able 280 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: to buy a home. 281 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: It kind of sounds like when gas was like four 282 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: to seventy five and went to four to twenty, and 283 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: they want you to be happy about it. 284 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: That's right, that's perfect, Yes, it is. It's much better 285 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: coming down. 286 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: You're like, it's still up four dollars. This is crazy. 287 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: Now, you, for the most part, are are a career renter. Yep, 288 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: you have owned a home before, but you, as a 289 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: unmarried man, have spent most of your life in a 290 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: rental dwelling of some sort. Yeap, I have done both 291 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: both own homes and rented them. Is there a reason 292 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: you have avoided of your own volition owning eyes like 293 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: to just go. 294 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: Out and get a house. 295 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 296 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: I think just the thought of being like, I want 297 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: to lock into something for fifteen twenty years, ten years 298 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: is just that has never been my life per se, 299 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: And maybe that's from the military I've been here for 300 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: twenty years, right, I could have done it, but I 301 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: just I don't know because. 302 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: There used to be the old saying that and years ago. 303 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Pete the Planner who you can hear weekend Sunday, I 304 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: think a Sunday afternoons you're on WIBC. He he's a 305 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,479 Speaker 1: financial guy, well known media personality here in Central Indiana. 306 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: He did a big thing on whether it was actually 307 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: bet this was probably ten years ago, to rent or 308 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: own a home. 309 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: It's probably more fiscally smart for me to rent right now. 310 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, so that my situation it's been totally turned upside down. 311 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: I almost equate it to like how it used to 312 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: be so much cheaper to eat at home versus eating 313 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: out where they were like, well if you just made 314 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: the food at home and be cheaper, but because of 315 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: the cost of food at the grocery store is so 316 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: high now, it's almost in many cases cheaper to just 317 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: go somewhere, especially have a coupon of some sort, like 318 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: like I do a stack of them, a stack of them. 319 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: And I think home ownership is almost the same thing 320 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: now with the interest rates coupled with the inflated housing prices. 321 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: Like how much does your rent go up every year? 322 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 4: Like, I mean it's not much. 323 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean probably last year it went up like one 324 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks a month. No, I mean totally 325 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: the last year, Like for a month maybe fifty dollars, 326 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: which is not a lot to me. So you're saying 327 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: maybe six hundred dollars for the year, correct. Okay, So 328 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: when you compare that, and I don't know what your 329 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: base rent is, I'm not going to ask you, but 330 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: when you think about the rather riskless environment you live 331 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: in while renting. 332 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: If something breaks, they'll come fix it. 333 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: I don't have to cut grass, I don't have to 334 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: worry about property tags on the shovel snow, I have 335 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: to pay AHOA fees, have to pay any of this stuff. 336 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so a risk you are in a completely riskless environment. Basically, 337 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: that's six hundred dollars increase versus like somebody who owns 338 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: a home. But if they're paying something even remotely close, 339 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: which they probably are because of if they bought at 340 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the house recently with interest and inflated prices, you're in 341 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: a much better position because you go to sleep with 342 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: your head on the pillow each night worrying like Hey, 343 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: my water heater breaks, it ain't on me. Right, if 344 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: my refrigerator stops. 345 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: Run and then if they come at me and go 346 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna raise it one hundred, I just go somewhere else. 347 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I'm not stuck. 348 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: You know when the property tax sunk comes out, like 349 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: people have to figure that out. 350 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 4: You can't just leave. 351 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. I Like, it's just the whole world 352 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: is so topsy turvy now. 353 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 4: But isn't this how they want it? They don't want 354 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 4: us to own anything. 355 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: Well, that's a great point. There's a lot of people 356 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: who really believe that. And look, when you see all 357 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: of these things that keep happening and keeps moving towards that, 358 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: and life keeps getting more and more affordable or less affordable. 359 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Things keep getting more and more expensive that make my 360 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: life less affordable, you do kind of start to give 361 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: credence to that, being that there's a there. I'm not 362 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: trying to be conspiracy theory. 363 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 4: I mean, but if you look around, all you see 364 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 4: is multi tenant housing. 365 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: That's all you see. 366 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: Going up, And then you're wondering who's even. 367 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: Moving into these places because a lot of them look empty. 368 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about this before. I've lived 369 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: for basically most of my adult life on the same street, 370 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: and I've lived in a basically a one mile geographical 371 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: area almost my entire life. And I think about the 372 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: street that I live on, and there are still some 373 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: very nice middle income houses and people who keep their 374 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: yards up, et cetera. But on the same street where 375 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, every house was kept up right. 376 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: Almost every house was occupied by a family who owned it, 377 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: who had some sort of steak kids. 378 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: You went to school with, the exactly community we talked 379 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: about yesterday, That community was there. 380 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: I drive down that street now and go my neighborhood 381 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: looks a little rough compared to the way you used to. 382 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: And a big portion is if you go online you 383 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: can see this in your neighborhood and you see this 384 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: on your street. You start seeing more and more of 385 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: these houses being rentals where in which people are not 386 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: invested in in the outcome of the thing, because, like 387 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: you said, a year from now, they don't have to 388 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: be there. 389 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: But if you look at places in Hamlinon County, they're 390 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: trying to get rid of that where they're going to 391 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: limit the amount of rental they can even be in 392 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: a neighborhood for that exact same reason. 393 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: But the one thing I worry about with that just 394 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, just totally veer off the topic here, But 395 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: the rental cap on homes seems to then elevate these 396 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: Soviet block style apartment complexes, because if people can't rent 397 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: a home, they're gonna have to go somewhere, and they're 398 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: being to stay in the dorms. Like, who thought putting 399 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: those on the main strip there in Noblesville was a 400 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: good idea? You lived there. 401 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: As soon as you start telling me, I saw what 402 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: you were talking about, right there, right across from the 403 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: from the field. 404 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: So what is that thirty two? Yeah? 405 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: Is that thirty two? 406 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Right as it gets into Noblesville? Can you go over 407 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: the bridge and then boom, you're right before the square. 408 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: If you've never been to Noblesville it for years, had this, 409 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: I assume it still does. This uber quaint, beautiful talent downtown. 410 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: It's the county seats, the courthouse is. 411 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: Right, beautiful square and pop shops. 412 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: And for some reason, this idiot mayor Jensen thought it 413 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: would be great to take these ugly, lifeless, soulless Soviet 414 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: block looking apartment things and stick them right on the 415 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: main drag heading towards that which is surrounded by quaint houses. 416 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: Definitely stands out. Yeah, it definitely stands out ugly. 417 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, and it's happening everywhere. It seems like these 418 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: things are happening everywhere. 419 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know what y'all's deal is in Hamilton County. 420 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why people just keep looking around, going 421 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: this is fine, this is okay, give us more of this. 422 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: But whatever it is, the pushback, it doesn't seem to 423 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: be sufficient. 424 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: No, there's no, there is no. 425 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. When we come back. 426 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: An Indie Star columnist is advocating for the end of 427 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: the post office. We have to review this column and 428 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on this, Jerry. It's 429 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: Kennel and Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. 430 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 3: So. 431 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: An Indie Star columnist is advocating we get rid of 432 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: the post office. 433 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Let's discuss this. This is interesting. It's Kennell and Casey Show. 434 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm Rob. Casey's out today. Jerry Lopez in for Casey. 435 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: keV is here. Jacob Stewart. We've had Jacob on our 436 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: program before. He's the new He's like the Republican James Briggs. 437 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: He's a columnist an Indie Star. He worked for the 438 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Republicans in the Senate, so kudos on the Indie Star. 439 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: They brought in a Republican to write featured columns for them. 440 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: And he has, like I said, he's been on this 441 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: program before. He's got some interesting topics that he chooses 442 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: to delve into. And one of the things he's delving 443 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: into this week is getting rid of the post Office. 444 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: And in this column he is essentially advocating for what 445 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: has been floated out there, either to totally dismantling the 446 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: post office, privatizing the post office, et cetera. And I 447 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on this because the post 448 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: office is two hundred and fifty years old. Now that's 449 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: pretty crazy to think essentially the entire length of the 450 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: United States of America, from the very very infancy or 451 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: idea even of the post office or of the country, 452 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: there has been a post office. And it's hard to 453 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: imagine a country without it. And I love my mailman. 454 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: I have the greatest mailman in the world. He's awesome. 455 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: He's always on time and. 456 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: Mail checks you use the idea. 457 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: I am a user of the post yes, and for 458 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: most people know I don't do anything online. No, none 459 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: of that stuff. I still send it on its merry way, 460 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: send the stuff where it needs to go. But Jacob 461 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: Stewart points out, and I would be in big trouble 462 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: if this happened. Fifty the revenue the mail market, dominant mail, 463 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: which he claims is the biggest source of revenue for 464 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the Post Office, fell fifty three percent, so more than 465 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: half in the past fifteen years. And the reality that 466 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: is because we live in an electronic world. 467 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you not advertise on TV and social media 468 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: and internet, and you don't need to send mailers. 469 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I'm a dinosaur, right, There's almost no 470 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: people my age that are doing what I'm doing. I'm 471 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: saying what probably two three percent of people hope not 472 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: that many under the age of forty five are probably 473 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing. And so if you're and I 474 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: don't mean to be mean by saying this, but if 475 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: your customer base is literally dying off, how do you 476 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: sustain a business model where your customer base is literally 477 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: dying off and fear and freebiel are needing that thing, 478 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: which is the real monopoly that the Post Office has, 479 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: which is we can touch the mailbox and nobody else can't. 480 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 4: Yep. 481 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: He also pointed out Jacob Stewart did in this Indie 482 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: Star column that the Post Office loses nine and a 483 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: half billion dollars a year. 484 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: They lose nine and a half billion dollars a year, 485 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: that's right. How do they so we just keep funding 486 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: or as. 487 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: He describes, burns through nine and a half billion dollars 488 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: a year. So if you can't make it work, if 489 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: you can't make it work, the projected loss this year 490 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: is six point nine billion. 491 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: They've done some restructuring. It's so better doing better. Didn't 492 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: it didn't wasn't I working with you? And we just 493 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: found out that the post office guy got didn't have 494 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: AC in his truck. 495 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, I think that's that's correct. And so 496 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: the post Office now is in this the package business 497 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: to try to make revenue to offset what they're losing 498 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: doing our mail. But clearly it's not working from a 499 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: revenue standpoint because basically what they end up doing any 500 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: points out in this in this column is the post 501 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: Office ends up subsidizing for profit companies like Amazon, right 502 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: because their tie into them. And it's sort of like, 503 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: there's some things that are so big you can't even 504 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: imagine your country without them, And you think about the 505 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: amount of there are tons of very good, hard working 506 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: people that work for the post Office, but when the 507 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: business side of it, right, is so flawed, and clearly 508 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: at this point, the sort of holes we're talking about 509 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: are not holes that likely can ever be plugged. Don't 510 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: you have to get everybody in a room and go, 511 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: this must stop at some point. 512 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: I mean, the best way to fix it is to 513 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: privatize it and let some business who's out there to 514 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: make a profit do it the best they can. 515 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: But then how do you make that work? 516 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: You're just going to give one company the right to 517 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: run everybody's mail. 518 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: Because I do wonder like every year it seems like 519 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: the stamp goes up. I remember when I was a kid, 520 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: the price of a stamp going up as a big deal, 521 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: like that was national news, right, Like you would always 522 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: remember as a kid, So what was like twenty three cents? 523 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: I distinctly, very vividly remember the thirty two cent stamp, and. 524 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: They go with like a forever stamp because they just 525 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: kept raising it so much. Well, that's right, you could 526 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: buy them in advance, right if you could. I remember 527 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: very vividly the thirty two cent stamp, and it seemed 528 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: like it was thirty two cents. Let's see, the internet's 529 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: a fabuus. 530 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 4: It's a stamp these days. 531 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I just buy them in, you know, 532 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: as a price of a stamp. Boy the internet. Let's 533 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: see here, what are we doing? Seventy eight cents is 534 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: the price of a price of a stamp over time? 535 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Here we go. Is there a website that would tell 536 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: me this the price of a stamp year by year? Okay? 537 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: For example? Oh, this is great in you want to 538 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: guess what a price of a stamp was in twenty eighteen. 539 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: Take a guess, keV. You want to get in on this, 540 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: what a price of a stamp was in twenty eighteen. 541 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: So we don't have to go back to when I 542 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: was a boy. This was a better country. 543 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 4: Did you already say what they are now? 544 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: Seventy eight cents? 545 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: All right? 546 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: So twenty eighteen, let's go eighteen less than twenty twenty cents. 547 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: You're saying it's twenty cents, keV, I'm going to say 548 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: twenty five, Well, you guys are way low. It's fifty cents. 549 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: That's still pretty pricey. 550 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: So seven, well, so in seven you super than the 551 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: five dollars to use the online service. Well, this is 552 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: the point, right, So in seven years you have seen 553 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: the price of a stamp go up twenty eight cents. 554 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: It's almost a it's over a fifty percent increase in 555 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: the price of a stamp. And I pondered this myself, like, 556 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: at what point will I just give in and say 557 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: it's not worth it for me to waste the five 558 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: bucks a month or whatever it is to pay my 559 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: bills to buy the stamp. Yeah, but the problem is, 560 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: like I said, then you go to an online service 561 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 2: and it's if you call and speak to somebody, well, 562 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: there's a ten dollar fee for that, or if you 563 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: do it on the online sert, there's a five dollars 564 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: fee for that. Wait, wait, you got a fee to 565 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: pay your I get a fee to pay some of 566 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 2: my bills. If I pay my auto loan by speaking 567 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: to a representative, it costs me extra money. 568 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: So you can't just go to your computer and do 569 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: it. It's like five dollars, No, kidding. Yeah, well so it is. 570 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: Still so if I do that, and I do that 571 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: for water and electricity has something like there's your book 572 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: of stamps already. 573 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: So it is cheaper for me to do what I'm doing. 574 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: So the post office still has me. They got me 575 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: in a ringer for now. Yeah, there's no way this 576 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: is sustainable, though, I mean, I think he lays out 577 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: it's an interesting column. Wait till noon then go uh oh, 578 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: here's the rate over time. Let's see here when was 579 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: this because I remember thirty two cents okay from nineteen 580 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: ninety five. Yeah, see iron trap here from nineteen ninety 581 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: five through nineteen ninety nine, it was thirty two cents 582 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: surprised of a stamp. So I didn't make that up. 583 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: That was in my mind. Well let's see it was 584 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: twenty cents when I born. What was the highest jump? 585 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: Uh oh give me like in one yeah, like oh 586 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: thirty two. Now they're sitting. Uh there's a three, there's 587 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: a three. Oh, there's a five. So it went from 588 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: January and Jai. 589 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Okay, see this is where and this has shows you 590 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: the unsustainable business model here right, So in July of 591 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: twenty three, it was sixty six cents, So think about 592 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: it's got a twelve twelve cents in just what two years? Right? 593 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: So July of twenty three was sixty six cents, January 594 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: of twenty four it went up to sixty eight cents, 595 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: and then July of twenty four it went up was 596 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: seventy three cents. 597 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: So every six months they hit you with yeah. 598 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: And now it's and now it's according to the which 599 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: that sounds about right. AI told me, Hey, I told 600 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: me this, and a I would never lie to me. 601 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: That's seventy eight cents now, which that sounds about right. 602 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: M Did I imagine that? Or is it still the 603 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: post office? Oh, they requested the Really maybe it still 604 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: is seventy seven. Maybe it's still seventy three. I'm sorry, 605 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I misread that the Post Office requested and other increased 606 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: to seventy eight cents effective July fourteen, twenty twenty five. 607 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Can somebody let me know if it went up to 608 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: seventy eight cents. I've not bought stamps in that time, 609 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: so I don't know it's either seventy three says. 610 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: In July twenty five, the price of first class mail 611 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: Forever stamp increased by five cents from seventy. 612 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 4: Three to seven. 613 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so I've not bought it. 614 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: Overall increases seven point four. 615 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. Yeah, so I've not bought stamps. 616 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: They all went went up from sixty nine to seventy four. 617 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: Domestic postcards fifty six to sixty ten. 618 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Cheese, all right. It's something that is timeless and never 619 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: goes up in price. Jason Hammer and joins us next 620 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: Kenn Only Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 621 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: Okay, we have a very important topic to geta bete. 622 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: You were gonna do that. Jason Hammer's here, all right, 623 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: So before we talk about this thing that you and 624 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: I were debating yesterday. Lopez, Jerry Lopez in for Casey. 625 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: We had a big discusion about ho Little League has 626 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: put out some disclaimer rejecting anyone betting on a Little 627 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: League Baseball ahead of the World Series or during the 628 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: World Series, which means, but he must be doing it 629 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: if they have to put out the disclaimer telling you 630 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: not to. You have said you're all in on this South. 631 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: Carolina money line and the over free money. I'm in. 632 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: I am all in on betting on the Little League 633 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: World Series. I want to call on Governor Brown to 634 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: open a special session to bring this to. 635 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: The You would rescue your hard earned money on a 636 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: twelve year old, I. 637 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: Risk it on seventeen year olds in college. 638 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: Why not? 639 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 5: Now, Like, there's no difference if these kids break the 640 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: law to getting charged as miners, I might. 641 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: As well benefit financially from it. And coming soon from 642 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel Productions, we're gonna up the Annie. Not 643 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: only are we gonna gamble on the Little League World Series, 644 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: we're going to create the Little League World Series of poker, 645 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: and we're gonna get all these kids around and we're 646 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: gonna film it, you know, and it's gonna be fantastic. 647 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 5: These like ten and twelve year olds just you know, 648 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 5: pins and needles hoping they get that Queen on. 649 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: The river coming into a middle school near you wait, wait, wait, 650 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: like think about it. 651 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: So your boy played baseball, Chris play baseball When Chris 652 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: was twelve, you would have had some level of confidence 653 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: in betting on the outcome of a game he was 654 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: involved in. 655 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, oh yeah, I coached baseball. I could tell 656 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: you right now. We'd play some teams. I'd be like, oh, 657 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: this is like seven run games. 658 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 5: Say we have inside information. We can go full Pelosi. 659 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 5: If Pelosi can get away with it, why can't we? 660 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 5: Is Pelosi better than us? 661 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: Rob? All right? So you and I, You and I 662 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: were having a conversation yesterday. I don't remember how we 663 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: got on this. We've had this conversation before about people 664 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: who are never the star, but they just make whatever 665 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: they're in better. 666 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: Right, So we're talking about like character actors. Yes, I 667 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: always say that the actor Gary Cole, he was Lumberg 668 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: and Office Space. He was Mike Brady, Ricky, Bobby's Pot, 669 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: Deal and Daddy. He's never the star usually, right, He's 670 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: never the main star. But everything he's in, even if 671 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: the movie sucks everything, he he's good. 672 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he delivers every time. So I want Jeffrey Tambour 673 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: the rest of development. I think his shining role. He 674 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: was a Larry Sanders show. Hey Hey, he was. But 675 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: the movie Mister Mom, which was sort of Michael Keaton's 676 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: breakout movie in the early eighties. He is Michael Keaton's 677 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: boss when Michael Keaton gets fired at the beginning, and 678 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: he is and he's like reoccurring throughout the movie. He's phenomenal. 679 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 5: Oh, such a sleezy, like he yells at Michael Keaton's 680 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 5: kid at one. 681 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: Point we're having a meeting. Wasn't there some line when 682 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: he'd like, I tried to save you or something, I've tried. 683 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: To stick up for you the best I could. He's 684 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: always this just dismissive, sleezy, a hole guy. It's Jeffrey Tambar. 685 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: I think is that that he is never kind of 686 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the usually not the star, but he's great and whatever 687 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: he's in, Like think about The Hangover. 688 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 5: Right, the star power the comedy of the Hangover. He 689 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 5: steals every scene, even away from Allan. 690 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, like what he's talking about Vegas. 691 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: You never walk away the table when you're on a heater. 692 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: He's always got this like disinterested arrogance about him and 693 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: whatever when he's delivering his his lines, no matter what 694 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: the role, uh spanglish. Who you got so? 695 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: I don't even know if these guys qualify, but you 696 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: got me so, Zach Galfanakis. I like the goofy dude 697 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: that he's always like the side guy, but he always 698 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: plays the same role. 699 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 4: And Rain Wilson would be another one, but those are 700 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: kind of the same character. 701 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: Rain Wilson was Dwight White who. 702 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: In the office. Yes, keV had an interesting proposon does 703 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: this person qualify? Is this version a star or would 704 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: he fit into our little debate and discussion here. 705 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I threw Steve Boushimi out there. 706 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: Okay, Now this is tough because I think Steve Busimi 707 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 5: is a bigger star than the people that we've listed here. 708 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: But he also is never really like the main guy. 709 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 2: Though only in Boardwalk Empire. Yeah, that was the only 710 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: time that he was like the main character. 711 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 5: And he'll play quirky, weird roles like when he does 712 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 5: the Sandler movies. Now Sandler's his buddy, so he's willing 713 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 5: to be like the cross eye. 714 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 4: Guy and the it plays a really good petal, the. 715 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: Guy with the broken arms and grown he was conn Air. Yeah, 716 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: he plays a really good petal. Oh man a conn Air. 717 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 2: He was fantastic, like the Hannibal Lecter Careah, the Cannibal. 718 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: You had a run in the Sopranos in one of 719 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: the seasons of The Sopranos was Tony b Yeah. Yeah, 720 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: but like, is he a much bigger star though than 721 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 2: Gary Cole, then Rain Wilson, than Jeffrey Tambour like, if 722 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: you said there's a new TV show coming out, I 723 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: could see Steve Buscemi being the star of it, like 724 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: maybe not a movie, but like a Netflix streaming series. 725 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you would say starring and it would have his 726 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 4: name because it did. 727 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: Though, what was a Boardwalk Empire? Was it the name 728 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: of the show? It was on HBO. 729 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 5: Now, Gary Cole has been in some high profile stuff, 730 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 5: but I still think of that Brady Bunch movie. 731 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: It was Shelley Long that was the star. 732 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. And by the way, like when he 733 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: was I like, because the Brady Bunch moan was the 734 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: mid nineties, I think, wasn't it when he was Lumberg? 735 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: Did you look at him and go, oh, that's Mike Brady. 736 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. Most people didn't even like put two 737 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: and two together. 738 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 5: Now, But no matter what role he does, he delivers 739 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 5: another one. Eugene Levy, Yeah right, Shit's Creek that show. 740 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 5: He's a big part of that, and maybe you consider 741 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 5: him the star. 742 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: I don't know American Pie, but like. 743 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 5: The movies from the eighties, like The Used Car Salesman 744 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 5: in Vacation, Yeah you didn't order. 745 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: The Metallic Pete. 746 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: He's the second father of the Bride movie. He has 747 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: a very small role where he's the guy who is 748 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: buying Steve Martin's house and that Steve Martin has a 749 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: meltdown and tries to buy it back from him, right, 750 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: And he is just like like you said, it's just 751 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: a you know, one or two scenes and he's fabulous. 752 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: The very calm collected dad in American Pie. We'll just 753 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: tell your mom that we all like Jim's dad. 754 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: Another guy that you would think of the guy who 755 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: played Roy Wally in The Vacation and then he was 756 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: also the owner of the Cubs in Rookie of the Year, right, 757 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: and he was in the Home Alone movie. He was 758 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: the guy who owned the Duncan's toy chest. 759 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: We got a couple from the YouTube chests and I said, 760 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: Stephen Root, Rob Schneider, KNUCKI Thompson. Stephen Root is another 761 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 2: one that's Milton from Office Rice. Yeah, he was in 762 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: the Dodgeball movie. He had a run in The Big 763 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 2: Bang Theory too, as one of the supervisors in the office. 764 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: You know, And he's a guy who got known as Milton. 765 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: Like a lot of times the character act like you 766 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: see him and it's like the why the Seinfeld guys 767 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: never could do anything else because you just saw them as. 768 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: The Carlton he is in the same way, Yeah, exactly. 769 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: But he's a guy that even though you still see 770 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: him and every time, because he was sort of in disguise, right, 771 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: you kind of know it's him, but you don't just think, well, 772 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: there's Milton. You can kind of get past that he 773 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: was the Milton guy. 774 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 5: He almost played the same character in Dodgeball, but I 775 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 5: didn't keep thinking that it was Milton. 776 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah it's weird. 777 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah you're you're yeah, you're right. So, yeah, there's a 778 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: whole bunch of these guys. 779 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: And you and I've had the conversation before, would you 780 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: rather be one of those dudes who went on forever 781 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 2: like that, like Eugene Levey, or would you rather be 782 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: a Nick Cage You had about a five to seven 783 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: year window where he made a good billion dollars but 784 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 2: then totally flamed out. I think I'd almost rather be 785 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: a dude that works every year, because one I like 786 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 2: to work too. And let's say there's some sort of 787 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: major life situation that happens. You know, you've got to 788 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: pay for medical treatments or something. 789 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 790 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: You want to make sure you've got income coming in 791 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:17,959 Speaker 2: in the future, and. 792 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 5: Just the royalties. I don't know if that cuts it 793 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: for Nick Cage. So I would want to be somebody 794 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 5: like Gary Cole where you've got five six projects lined 795 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 5: up every single year and you're gonna have a pretty 796 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 5: solid career earning. 797 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 4: I want to be like Leo. Let's reboot him at 798 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 4: twenty six. 799 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: Every year. 800 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: It's the uh It's skittle gazy show. It's coming up 801 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: this hap today for you beer sample Friday. Man, We're 802 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 2: gonna have a good time. We got a good time yesterday. 803 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep it rolling. We got Trump and Pooty 804 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: Tang and Alaska. We are gonna have a good time. 805 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: Everybody do it with me. 806 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 4: Here we go. 807 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: Te