1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Line from Baal Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today the Federal Open Market Committee, which is 3 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: just second in popularity to the Taylor Swift fan Club. 4 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: They are going to be having their meeting. 5 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: And releasing the info on whether or not they are 6 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: going to be setting a new rate on overnight borrowing. Translation, 7 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: are we bringing down interest rates? That isn't what we're 8 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: doing now. I will put forth to you that I 9 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: stare at this economy and I have said to you 10 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: as clear. 11 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: As I can that I don't think we're in great 12 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: place from an advertising point of view. In terms of radio. 13 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: Everybody, of course, is still trying to compete for the business, 14 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 3: but it's been tougher. The tariffs have an absolute, real 15 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: legitimate effect, absolute real legitimate effect. 16 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: They just do they they are. 17 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: They are causing a fair amount of problems. Inflation is 18 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: not gone better, Absolutely positively better, but not gone not 19 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: by any stretch of the imagination. So the question before 20 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: us is do we think that the rate cuts are 21 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: going to come? If you don't want Trump screaming at you, 22 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: The answer is yes. But even if you were to 23 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: drop them half a point fifty basis points. He's still 24 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: going to scream at you. You're not going to win 25 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: this battle. You are going to get yelled at. You 26 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 3: are going to be called the names. I mean, that's 27 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: very very obvious. You are going to be called a 28 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: tremendous number of names. That said, I'm still fifty to fifty. Like, 29 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: there were times where I was, Okay, I know what 30 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: he's gonna do. I think the money is on a 31 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: fifty basis point cut. I think that's where the money is, 32 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: which is to say half a percent. 33 00:02:54,880 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: I just we will wait, we will see. 34 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: You have got the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, 35 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: Tim Scott saying that a fifty point basis cut. 36 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: Is possible this week. We'll find out soon enough. 37 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: You've got Israeli troop movement pushing forward into Gaza City. 38 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: The decision has been made. Hamas will be destroyed. And 39 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: there was a very weird statement from President Trump. I 40 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: mean it was it was a very odd statement, and 41 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: it was about the idea of human shields. And it 42 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: was odd because President Trump knows the answer this question. 43 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: He knows the answer regarding human shields and what it 44 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: is that Hamas does. 45 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: Well, of course, he does rounded out underway in down 46 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: the city. 47 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: Your reaction. 48 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: We're going to see what happened, because I hear Amas 49 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: is trying to use the old human shield deal, and 50 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: if they do that, they're going to be in big trouble. 51 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: They're gonna be in big trouble. 52 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: They put it out two days ago that they're going 53 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: to use the hostages as human shields. But that's something 54 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: that hasn't done for a long time. 55 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: You know, with all due respect, mister President, they've been 56 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: using the hostages as human shields since the beginning. They've 57 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: been using people as human shields, putting themselves under schools, 58 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: putting themselves under hospitals, in hospitals. This is the modus operenda. 59 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: This is who they are. This is what they do. 60 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: So when you tell me that if they do that, 61 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: there's gonna be big trouble, well they're doing that. 62 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: Now, what what is the big trouble, mister President? I 63 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: am curious. I am curious to know what the big 64 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: trouble is. 65 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: Is the big trouble that you are going to assist 66 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: Israel in eradicating Hamas. You're gonna go to cutter and 67 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: say you're gonna turn over every hamas member or not 68 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: only are we going to stop you from donating to 69 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: any school, we're gonna freeze your money, and we might 70 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: slap you around a little bit. We might slap you around, 71 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: laugh out loud, and while we do that, mock your sister. 72 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: What's the what does it mean? What in the world 73 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: does it mean when the president says they're gonna be 74 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: in big trouble? Don't don't use lines, sir, that would 75 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: be reminiscent. 76 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: Of Barack Obama. And as red lines. 77 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: Don't say things that you don't mean, don't say things. 78 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: That you're not going to follow up on. Don't do that. 79 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: Then there is, as there's always a hearing on the hill, 80 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: there is a hearing involving the former CDC director and 81 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: a conversation, in this case about vaccines. 82 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 5: The CDC is the cause of vaccine hesitancy. 83 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: That you are the problem that because of COVID and 84 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: and you're forced forcing these vaccines on people that weren't 85 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 4: ever really proven or justified, that the benefics didn't out 86 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: weigh their risk. And you all set there with your 87 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: hands in your. 88 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 6: Pockets, and you let that happen, and then you let 89 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 6: this happen Titus that scene be at one day of age, 90 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 6: be forced upon everybody, and all of a sudden, the 91 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 6: moms and the grandma's never trust you because you're trying 92 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 6: to force a vaccine that's not necessary at age at 93 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 6: day one. If you're going into nursing school, medical school, 94 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 6: absolutely you should consider that hepatitis vaccine. But basically, what 95 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 6: the CDC does is act like a mandate and you 96 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 6: force doctors that don't agree with you to kick patients 97 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 6: out of their clinics because they don't want their child 98 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 6: to be exposed to a vaccine that was approved after 99 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 6: just like one hundred and forty patients took it, being 100 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 6: followed up for five days. It just makes no sense 101 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 6: to me that every person needs every vaccine. 102 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: But regard now. 103 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: This right here is a very interesting conversation, and I've 104 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: discussed in my own life. 105 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: That Senator Roger Marshall was speaking there. 106 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: That when we took a look at our children, we 107 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: took a look at the vaccine schedule, we said this 108 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: is ridiculous. My wife and I went to our doctor 109 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: and said, kid is X number of weeks old and 110 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: you want them to take all of this. 111 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: We're not We're not in one one day. We're not 112 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: doing that. We're not doing that. 113 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: Our doctor, to her credit, was like, well, why don't 114 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: we just break it up? 115 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 2: Will spread it out? Great? 116 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: That was our decision to make and that's how we 117 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: made the decision. Engage a vaccine, see. 118 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: The result, then move on to the next thing. I'm 119 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: not an anti vaccine guy. 120 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: I am a guy who thinks it's very acceptable to 121 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: say out loud, what do you mean a child that's 122 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: a day old needs so all of us, all. 123 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: Of a sudden, get VIEP right. So that's my that's 124 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: my sound effect for getting a shot. I don't know. 125 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: I just don't think I have any good shot sound effects? 126 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: Right there? I do. 127 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 3: I do have a good one, Like, like you know, 128 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: I should it? One day old, get a get a shot. 129 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: I wasn't bad. I wasn't bad. 130 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: He's bringing up a rational point that you may have 131 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: had a discussion of, your spouse may have had a 132 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: discussion of. 133 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: It's a rational argument being made here. 134 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: But more than that is the recognition that the CDC 135 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: is responsible for people saying I don't trust the way 136 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: you handled COVID was absolutely horrific, and I am not 137 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: somebody who's opposed to the quote unquote vaccine the first 138 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: one or a post operational warp speed. It really did 139 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: change how we do things in America and for the 140 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: better for the future. But it is very clear that 141 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: the vaccine of the first was not the vaccine for 142 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: any other types of COVID that came around. 143 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: And did you see that it was? 144 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: It a Kathy Hokel, the governor of New York, is like, 145 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: I just got. 146 00:09:51,960 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: My booster shot. Who who is still getting boosters? People? 147 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: There are people who are still wearing masks, people who 148 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: still get boosters. People so afraid of their own shadows, 149 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: so afraid of happiness, who what still believe that we're 150 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: going to get them killed, even though that was never 151 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: the case, never ever, never ever. 152 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: They used to scream. 153 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: That if you don't get vaccinated, you're going to kill 154 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: My grandma had nothing to do with me. If I 155 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: didn't get vaccinated. The only person who I could be 156 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: hurting was me. You were never ever, ever ever in danger, 157 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: never once. And then there was Mark Wayne Mullen who 158 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 3: engaged in this conversation. 159 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 7: Okay, so let me ask you something. Your conversation with 160 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 7: the Secretary you said that he said he didn't trust you. 161 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 7: That is that really how that conversation went, because there's 162 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 7: other people in the room, and when I think the 163 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 7: conversation was can. 164 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: He trust you? So this is the senator from Oklahoma, 165 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: Mark Way Mullen. 166 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: Speaking to the former CDC director, and I'm starting by 167 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: challenging her characterization of the conversation with Secretary Robert Kennedy. 168 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 7: So let me ask you something. Your conversation with the secretary. 169 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: You said that he said he didn't trust you. 170 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 5: Correct you testifated? 171 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 7: That is that really how that conversation went, because there's 172 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 7: other people in the room, and I think the conversation. 173 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: Was can he trust you? 174 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: And your answer was he said he could not trust me. 175 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 7: No, the answer, ma'am. It was a recorded meeting. So 176 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 7: you can testify one way, or you can prove that 177 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 7: you're lying or and be honest with this committee. 178 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: Oh my, So that senator saying, I've got it, I've 179 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: got it right here in my hands. You're not telling 180 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: the truth about your meeting with the Secondary of Health 181 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: and Human Services. Maybe you should be honest, to which 182 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: she is gonna, I don't know, double down. 183 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 7: And I'm giving you the opportunity to be honest here 184 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 7: because you've been really walking around. 185 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: The edges. 186 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 7: And not being truthful. So did he ask you the 187 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 7: question can he trust you? And your answer was. 188 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 8: He told me he could not trust me, and I 189 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 8: told him if he could not trust me, he could 190 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 8: fire me. 191 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 7: That isn't how that conversation went. And you know that, 192 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 7: don't you. 193 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 8: He told me he could not trust me, and I 194 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 8: told him if he could not trust me, he could 195 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 8: fire me. 196 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 7: Ma'am, all we're looking for is you to be on 197 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 7: and you haven't been. You're not You're not being honest 198 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 7: with the conversation you're having, You're not being honest with 199 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 7: the timeline, and you won't even give the answers of 200 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 7: who your attorneys were. And all we're looking for is 201 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 7: to be honest. If we're gonna have a hearing and 202 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 7: we're going to discuss certain things, let's make sure we're 203 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 7: talking with someone that we can trust your answers. 204 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: It's like my kids. 205 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 7: I tell my kids all the time, you know one. 206 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 2: Thing I want from you. 207 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 7: I can deal with any situation we walk into as 208 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 7: long as I know you're being one hundred percent honest 209 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 7: with me. The minute, I can't tell you're being honest 210 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 7: with me. I can't trust you. Then on everything you 211 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 7: say is questioned, and you have to question you because 212 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 7: your personality and your answers aren't correct. 213 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: Oh dang, by the way, her look of defiance like, 214 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm I'm smarter than you. All right, you're also looking 215 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: for a job. There's this weird thing and you heard 216 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: it in some of the UH testimony with cash Betel. 217 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 2: As I was. 218 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: I was sharing that watching that earlier where look at you, 219 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: FBI director and you fired all these people, these good 220 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: people who really know what they're doing, and you don't 221 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: know what you're doing, but these other people they. 222 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: Knew what they were doing. Are we sure. 223 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 4: You know? 224 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: It goes back to our conversation, does the institution exist 225 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: to serve the people, to serve the citizen or does 226 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: it exist for the sake of the institution existing? 227 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: And every single time there's. 228 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: This idea that it exists for the sake of the 229 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: institution existing. 230 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: According to the left, some people need to get fired. 231 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: I'm not saying every day, I'm not saying all the time, but. 232 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: It's not surprising some people need to get fired. Some 233 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: people the day is done, and her look of smugness 234 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: kinda sends that to me. Maybe she doesn't mean to, 235 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just nerves, maybe it's just the I don't 236 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: know her just pleasing disposition. But man, if she's not 237 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: telling the truth. And there is a transcript somewhere, I 238 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: really want to see it. I really want to see it. 239 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. Well, it 240 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: seems that Representative Promila Jaya Paul she I don't know 241 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: if she still does or used to share the Progressive 242 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: Caucus in the House. 243 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: She's from Washington State, losing her mind with cash. 244 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: Buttel have women come forward to you regarding Jeffrey Epstein. 245 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: Remember the Democratic Party doesn't actually care as much as 246 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: they see a political. 247 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: Opportunity to hit on Trump. You and I and I will. 248 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: Say that there are other people out there, regardless of 249 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: the side of the aisle, really want the information and 250 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: want bad guys in jail for abusing children. 251 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony kats Today, good to be with you. 252 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: I haven't heard all this yet. Finger on the dump 253 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: button producer land and let's hear her lose it is 254 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: the only one that has welcomed any new information in. 255 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: This character, Yes or no, Present new. 256 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 6: Credible information, present new information, the victim's credible victims. 257 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 8: Nut I'll tell you what happened to the last Trump administration. 258 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Incredibly came forward, and you know what happened. 259 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: President Trump authorized the indictments Jeffrey Epstein, Paul Biden, not Obama, 260 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: some one else. 261 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 6: The entire thing a democratic oax. 262 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: So I would like. 263 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 9: To ask generlated toms expired, and I gave her the 264 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 9: additional forty five seconds he requested the general lady yields 265 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 9: back the gentleman's Okay. 266 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: That wasn't as crazy as I thought it was going 267 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: to be. 268 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: Trump's conversation with democratic hoax is you aren't serious about Epstein. 269 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: You want to make this all about me, You want 270 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: to see how you can attack me. That's his argument. 271 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: I don't think all it a hoax. Was actually a 272 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: great line from him, or a great argument from him. 273 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: I don't think he should have gone down that road. 274 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: But Promila Jayapaul, I've seen her go nuttier. I've seen 275 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: her go crazier than that. Who hasn't seen an audience 276 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: go crazy in anger? Is Beyonce and Beyonce and jay Z. 277 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: Here's the headline Beyonce and jay Z face MAGA accusations 278 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: after Avanka Trump and Jared Kushner sighting during a casino 279 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: night quote she dines with fascists. There's a justice Reform 280 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: organization co founded by jay Z had its second annual 281 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: casino night and gala in Atlantic City, and eyebrows were 282 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: raised by Beyonce and Avanka both being there and talking 283 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: to each other. You see, Beyonce is there because her 284 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: husband co founded an event and a charity and they 285 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: got people who have a lot of money to support it. 286 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: But those people are on the wrong side of the aisle. 287 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: So therefore Beyonce must be destroyed. I did the math right. 288 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: I did the right. These are the same people who 289 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: believe the two plus two equals five. Why because they 290 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: feel that way with Jared and Ivanka? Deplorable, disgraceful, disgusting. 291 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: You mean because they're supporting this justice reform organization co 292 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: founded by jay Z. 293 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: That's disgusting. 294 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 3: Everything must be seen in the parlance of good and evil. 295 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: Either you agree with me one hundred percent or you 296 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: are evil. Everything not a good for them for being 297 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: a part of it. 298 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: There, I am talking about the governor of New Mexico. 299 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: I might disagree with the e Lujan Gresham, Governor Grisham 300 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 3: about a million things, but calling him the National Guard 301 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: to make Albuquerque safer for the people of Albuquerque, that's 302 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: the right thing to do. 303 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: Congs Win Steve coming at Tennessee. 304 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: I am not a fan in any way, shape or form, 305 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: but there he is saying, good work by the FBI 306 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: for helping to reduce crime. I don't think we need 307 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: the National Guard, but this has been very helpful. 308 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: Great. 309 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: We could be rational people, or we could be the 310 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: people saying that Beyonce is dining with fascists. I hope 311 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: Beyonce knows you cannot outrun the hatred and the anger 312 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: of the progressive monster. 313 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: That yes, in many ways you have helped me. 314 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: I thought it was odd when the retired General Kellogg, 315 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: who's a special envoy for President Trump, said that he 316 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Dan Raisin Kane, 317 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: told him that Rush. 318 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: Is lou using this war with Ukraine because the data 319 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: has not said such a thing. 320 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: Now there are ebbs and there are flows that we 321 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: should be clear that the Russians don't have a great 322 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: army and that they were supposed to be able to 323 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: take Ukraine all those years ago, three years ago plus 324 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: in three days, and then they decided to drive tanks 325 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: across muddy fields, and now here we are still stuck 326 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: in the mud in almost this level of World War 327 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: One esque, a trench warfare regarding taking a little bit 328 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: of land, losing a little bit of land, taking a little. 329 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: Losing a little bit of land. 330 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: But in the main, Russia owns seventy to ninety percent 331 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: of the Dunbos, Stonetsk and Luhansk. They owned sixty to 332 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: eighty percent of another region called Zaporsia, working its way 333 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: down to Krimea. They attended Vladimir Putin attended the meeting 334 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: with President Trump, and then nothing has happened, except for, 335 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: of course, a drone attack on Poland. 336 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: And they don't seem daunted. 337 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: They seem like they're moving forward, that they have the 338 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: upper hand and they can get more concessions. But the 339 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: Ukrainians are willing, and their drone strikes with these very 340 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: weird looking drones. 341 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 2: Drones that look like they were made by the. 342 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: Wright brothers a kiddiehawk, are ruining and destroying oil refineries 343 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: and forcing the Russians to not be able to export gas, 344 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: export energy, which is affecting them financially. 345 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 346 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 3: Major Mike Lons joins me right now, retired United States 347 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: Army military analyst. 348 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: I want to get into the. 349 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: Russia story, but first, just quickly, as I brought it 350 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: up earlier. You have the Israelis making the decision to 351 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 3: make moves on Gaza. They are moving in. People are 352 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: trying to avoid what might be coming. You have the 353 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: President saying that there's a real concern if Hamas is 354 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 3: using the hostages as human shields, that's going to be 355 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: a real problem. But they've always been using Hamas as 356 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: human shields, or a pou Stittians as human shields, or 357 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: anybody that they can as human shields. Is there something 358 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: different about Israel's move now and does it signal something 359 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 3: to you about where this war is going? 360 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 5: Tony? 361 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 9: Yes, what's different is that it's this is the beginning. 362 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 5: Of the end now for Hamas. 363 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 9: From Israel's perspective, I think they will go into the tunnels, 364 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 9: likely knowing they won't pull a hostage out alive than 365 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 9: the ones they might not get the remains back of 366 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 9: the ones that have already been killed. I think that 367 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 9: this is the perfect combination of political pressure plus military 368 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 9: application of it, because I do think that maybe Nityaho 369 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 9: is running out of time with regard to getting this 370 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 9: thing over. I think the president, our president, wants it 371 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 9: over as soon as possible. So this is the quick 372 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 9: application of a military operation flooding those tunnels. That those 373 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 9: tunnels remain Hamas's sword and shield and all those things 374 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 9: about it, and something that you haven't seen in history, 375 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 9: you know, going back to the Vietnam War and other 376 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 9: places when the enemy used that kind of a system. 377 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 9: But this is the beginning of the end now from 378 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 9: Hamas's perspective, the attacks on Doho started that the decapitation strategy. 379 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 5: That's what Israel always leads to with anyway. 380 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 9: But I think I think Israel is going to look 381 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 9: to declare victory within the next few weeks. 382 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 5: Let's say, you, what do. 383 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 3: You believe has changed to make Israel say and getting 384 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: back these people has been the only thing on their mind. 385 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: We can't get them back because they knew they would 386 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: have to destroy Hamas. We knew this was always coming. 387 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: October eighth, the entirety of Israel changed on that subject. 388 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: But this is an admission of they're going to die 389 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: or they're already dead and there's nothing we can do 390 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: about it. That's a very different approach. What brought net 391 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: in Yahoo and his cabinet to this place. 392 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 9: I think the clock and I mean by that is 393 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 9: I think our president's running out of time of supporting 394 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 9: Israel and who does not want to be a political 395 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 9: liability for Donald Trump, recognizing that we have elections in 396 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 9: our country next year and it's important that from his 397 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 9: perspective that Trump and the Republicans maintained control of the 398 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 9: Senate in the House, and so I think that's what's 399 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 9: driving this again political decision and the application of the 400 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 9: military in order to support that, so that the time 401 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 9: is now to get this done, to get it done as. 402 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 5: Fast as possible. 403 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 9: Israel has recalled all the reservists in order to do this, 404 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 9: hundreds of thousands, so the country remains all in, and 405 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 9: I think that's that's what basically drove this train, is 406 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 9: that they don't want to volatile President Trump telling them 407 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 9: eventually that's I think that's it. They'll have to cut 408 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 9: off any kind of support we have for Israel that 409 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 9: would be just unsatisfactory from Israel's perspective. 410 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 3: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired in the United States 411 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 3: Army military analyst. Now let's move it over to Russia 412 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: and Ukraine. What we see is these very weird looking drones. 413 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: Sir uh. 414 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: And when I say very very weird, they they they 415 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 3: don't look like drones. 416 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: They they look like here, let me see if I 417 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: can pull up a photo for you. These things. They 418 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: they look like what's the what's the best word I 419 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: can I can come up with. They look like planes 420 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: from kiddiehawk. They look like something. 421 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: You would build with your dad in the backyard out 422 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: of plywood. 423 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: They don't look like it should fly. 424 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: And these things are flying over one thousand kilometers to 425 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: hit Russian oil refineries with great success. Talk to me 426 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: about what these these planes are. How did they get 427 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 3: this technology to the even though it looks so crude 428 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: and rudimentary, And what effect is it having? 429 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, basically the laws of physics, I mean those are 430 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 9: just think of gliders. During World War Two, we didn't 431 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 9: have to necessarily put every paratrooper inside airplane. We could 432 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 9: put them in a glider and have them pulled along 433 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 9: by another aircraft. The fact that they could put them 434 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 9: in a plane that size and fly low out of 435 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 9: the Russian air defense systems and the like. They're quiet, 436 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 9: likely run by electronics and not necessarily gas. They don't 437 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 9: make a lot of noise, and because of the size 438 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 9: of them, because of just playing physics, they could gate 439 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 9: the distance that they need to attack deep strike. 440 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 5: It's very primitive, You're absolutely right. 441 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 9: But it just shows the creativity on the Ukraine side 442 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 9: when it comes to the kinds of weapons that they're 443 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 9: creating in order to be disruptive on the battlefield and 444 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 9: to do what it can against Russia. I just actually 445 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 9: got back for a conference on a lot of things 446 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 9: drones and autonomous devices. The next battlefield is getting very 447 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 9: much looking like Terminator from the things that I saw 448 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 9: demonstrated with regard to this capabilities autonomous systems. It's not 449 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 9: just the simple drone as you and I have seen 450 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 9: that you have four propellers and flies above. 451 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 5: It's like that. It's like you say, what you've just shown. 452 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 9: It's an air an old model airplane that's full of 453 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 9: explosives that could go great distances. It's vehicles that don't 454 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 9: have any that can transport things without any people transporting them. 455 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 9: So it's pretty amazing where Ukraine has taken the United 456 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 9: States in particular. So we're not a combatant in this, 457 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 9: which is often difficult. 458 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 5: We get lazy. 459 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 9: Countries that are not combatants in these kinds of operations 460 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 9: get lazy and don't recognize what they have to do 461 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 9: to evolve, while the Ukraine has evolved and done these things. 462 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 9: So we've got to pay close attention to make sure 463 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 9: that our warfighting capability remains up to park. 464 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 5: Because this is what the next battlefield is going to 465 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 5: look like. 466 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: There's been talk that the Trump administration has reduced the 467 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: number of weapons, the number of whether it's it's a 468 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: patriot not necessarily a patriot conversation, but whether it's guns 469 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: or whether it's missiles. Reduced that number to Ukraine. And 470 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: the original thought was was that this is trying to 471 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 3: apply a pressure point to Ukraine to better come to 472 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: the table and agree to more of what Russia wants, 473 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: so we could say so Trump could say, got a deal, 474 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: this is done, this is finished, We've got peace in 475 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 3: our time. One of those kinds of conversations which never 476 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 3: really ends well, then you had Russia engaging to these 477 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 3: drones flying into Polish airspace. The polls shot a bunch 478 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: of them down, which I thought, again was Russia trying 479 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: to say, listen, you're gonna give in to more of 480 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: our demands or we're just gonna keep this saber rattling 481 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: up to the drones that were flying in Polish airspace 482 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: and Poland invoking Article four, which is basically when you 483 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: call your friends and you're like, are you ready to 484 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: roll because we might have to roll? 485 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: Is what was the response from Poland? 486 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: And did that encourage and signal to you that Russia 487 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: is trying to further saber rattle to get more concessions 488 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: to put a quote unquote end to this war. 489 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: No, I think that was a mistake. 490 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 9: I think the Russians don't have full control over some 491 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 9: of their autonomous systems. 492 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 5: That's likely a mistake. 493 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 9: That does not further Russia's negotiating power on any level. 494 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 9: In fact, it could also cause the NATO countries to 495 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 9: increase what they're doing already. So that was a mistake 496 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 9: that they made. They're trying to get close to the border. 497 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 9: There's assets there, there's some trains, train tracks and roads 498 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 9: and cities that are in western Ukraine that Russia feels 499 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 9: they have to do from a deep strike perspective. 500 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 5: We've seen it before. 501 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 9: We've seen some of their missiles go off off course 502 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 9: and land inside the boundary there as well. 503 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: I think that was a mistake. 504 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 9: I don't think Russia is looking for, you know, try 505 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 9: to saber rattle any more concession out of this. 506 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 5: There's no more saber rattling to do. 507 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 9: And I think right now the sticking points to be 508 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 9: troops on the ground and what the future of Ukraine 509 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 9: looks like. 510 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: I go, allow me to push back on you, on you, 511 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: Sarah talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army 512 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: military analyst, how can we say for Russia there's no 513 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: more saber rattling to do. You sit there in the 514 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: meeting with President Trump and Angriage and anchorage, you say, 515 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: you know this wouldn't happened if you were president. You 516 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: leave the meeting, You're like, I don't care. You keep 517 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: at it, You keep on the bombings. You do it 518 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: with the rather indiscriminateness. You know Trump's going to be 519 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: upset with you. You don't care. It would seem to me, 520 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: it's only a level of saber rattling and more aggression 521 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: to be able to get more level of concession. 522 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: That's yeah. 523 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 9: I think the reason why I don't think so is 524 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 9: because if it's not a repeated offense, if it's repeatable, 525 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 9: and if they start doing it more and more, then 526 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 9: I'll come back and agree with you. But I think 527 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 9: this was, you know, a mistake that's made by a 528 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 9: very imperfect country that you can't negotiate many simple military tasks. 529 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 9: They had a tremendous numerical advantage at begin any of this. 530 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 9: It's completely been squandered. They've this has been a tremendous 531 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 9: cost of resources. So for the amount of volume that 532 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 9: they're flying into Ukraine. From my perspective, this is an 533 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 9: aberration that that took, just took play some mistake because 534 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 9: unless nless you come back next week and it's been repeatable, 535 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 9: then I'll agree with you. But it's not in their 536 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 9: best interest to get NATO involved in the United States 537 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 9: more involved and to do from Russia's perspective, because Russia 538 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 9: knows it would definitely lose. 539 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: Then well, I've got about thirty seconds with you, Sir 540 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: General Kellogg for the retired general now Special Envoy and 541 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: General Cain, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, according to Kellogg, 542 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 3: told the President that Russia is losing this war in 543 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: your view, is Russia losing this war? 544 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 9: No, they're not losing because they're not. Their behaviors not 545 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 9: changed in order to stop it. They're not winning either. 546 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 9: I mean, you've got winning and you've got not winning. 547 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 9: You've got losing and not losing. So I put them 548 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 9: in as not they're not losing it, and neither as Ukraine. 549 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 5: They're not winning it either. 550 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 9: As well as this to your point about World War 551 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 9: one warfare that's taking place there with the trenches in 552 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 9: regard to how the situation is revolving. But the bottom 553 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 9: line is Russia has suffered tremendous casualty and tremendous costs. 554 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 5: But also they're not stopping. They're going to continue to 555 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 5: do this, so they're losing. 556 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 9: Maybe strategically you can maybe say that they've not won yet, 557 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 9: but to say they're losing to the point where they're 558 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 9: going to negotiate, they're not going to do that. 559 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: Certainly, the oil fields and the refineries has shown a lot. 560 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army, appreciate you being 561 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: with us. 562 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: More coming up. 563 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, the mayor of Chicago, whom we all 564 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: know is a totally normal, well adjusted individual. He has 565 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: signed an executive order, and that executive order protects the 566 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: free speech rights of the residents of Chicago. What in 567 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: the heck is he talking about? 568 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: What is he doing? Tony Katz? 569 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, can you write about what a terrible 570 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: mayor he is? Keeth you write about what a bigoted 571 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: mayor he is? 572 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: Is that allowable? Why in the world would would you 573 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: do this? 574 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: The executive order designated to protect the rights of the 575 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: city residents protesting the increased presence of federal immigration enforcement. 576 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: Now I thought that this operation Midway Blitz wasn't really 577 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: going to go forward if the President decided, ay, if 578 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: Chicago isn't interested in protecting itself, I'll go places where 579 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: they want to, Which was the Memphis conversation. 580 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: The Mayor's like, how dare you? 581 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: But I've now got members of Congress saying to the FBI, 582 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: good on you. The governors are Republicans, like, yeah, we'll 583 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: take the help, which is of course the correct answer. 584 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: The craziest thing about Chicago is. 585 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: That they had the opportunity after Lori Lightfoot to elect 586 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 3: somebody who was still on the left, but wasn't Nutty 587 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 3: seemed like a pretty focused cat. 588 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 2: Forgetting his name right now, and they. 589 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: Went with the quasi socialist Brandon Johnson. And I have 590 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 3: no faith that when the opportunity comes to have another 591 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 3: election that they won't do exactly the same. It's like 592 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: the New York conversation was on Mondani, you had the 593 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 3: insanity of Bill de Blasio. We thought you were trying 594 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 3: to engage some level of self correction with Eric Adams, 595 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 3: and now you want Momdani. These people don't learn. And 596 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: if you ask the Midwest, the question is why are 597 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: we supposed to care? 598 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: I argue the only. 599 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: Reason to pay attention to care is that when agressive 600 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: socialists win elections, it encourages other people to run. 601 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: And they're going to run in your city. 602 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: It's cheaper to run in your city. They build on 603 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: these things, and what we need is for them to 604 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 3: be thwarted. 605 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: I'm with you, do we care. 606 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: About what happens to New York? Not really, they're doing 607 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: this to themselves. But when it comes to our neighborhood. 608 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: When it comes to your city, what do you think? 609 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: Then that's why we pay attention. This is Tony KATX 610 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 3: today