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Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan morning

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Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 2: Cool looking football, to say the least. Yeah, I thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, we had Rick Carlisle on there to end

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Speaker 2: the show yesterday, and you know when he was chatting

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Speaker 2: about Kurt Signetti and he referenced, you know, it was

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Speaker 2: kind of like Babe Ruth calling his shot, you know,

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Speaker 2: to me when Kurt Signetti operated in the manner that

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Speaker 2: he did those first twenty four to forty eight hours

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Speaker 2: on the job. Yeah, you could call it Babe Ruth,

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Speaker 2: like whatever, Joe Namath at the pool, you know whatever

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Speaker 2: reference you want to be.

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Speaker 3: Larry Bird, who's coming in second? But the three point?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 2: But okay, Larry Bird, who's coming in second? I guess

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Speaker 2: is a pretty good example for it. That was not

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti just running his mouth like James you might

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Speaker 2: run your mouth at Center Grove on a Sunday morning.

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Speaker 3: That was what I thought you gonna talk about. I

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Speaker 3: you in Illinois, I remember mouth for a month.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, well we can throw that analogy in there.

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Speaker 2: You ran your mouth without substance, I guess, or without

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Speaker 2: reason behind it. Kurt Signetti He didn't run his mouth

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Speaker 2: just to run his mouth. He wasn't trying to be

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Speaker 2: some cocky teenager, you know on the playground here. He

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Speaker 2: ran his mouth because he felt like it was needed.

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Speaker 2: It was necessary for everyone to hear, and not just

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Speaker 2: the fan base to hear. But I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people internally in the eight one to two area code,

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Speaker 2: within the walls of that athletic department, that university, that

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Speaker 2: football program. That's why he babe ruthed it, if you will.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a little different than just you know,

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Speaker 2: we have people that you know, run their mouths on

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Speaker 2: daily basis and professional sports or in college sports, you know,

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Speaker 2: welcome to a big part of sports. Hell, we had

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Speaker 2: an owner in the NFL yesterday run his mouth like that.

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Speaker 2: Why that is different than what Kurt Signetti was doing.

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Speaker 2: There is a very specific reason why he did the

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Speaker 2: things that he did in the first twenty four to

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Speaker 5: We talked about it yesterday and go back to the

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Speaker 5: discussion we had about alignment. Everything from the president of

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Speaker 5: the university to probably the board above her, to the

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Speaker 5: athletic director, to the head coach, to the players, to

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Speaker 5: the student body to the town of Bloomington and the

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Speaker 5: fan base all over America. What he has done in

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Speaker 5: the space of eighteen months is bring all of that

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Speaker 5: into complete and total alignment.

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Speaker 1: Yes, winning will do that, but he did it the

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Speaker 1: first season when they were ripping off all those wins

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Speaker 1: at the beginning.

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Speaker 6: Of the year.

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Speaker 1: James.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you get the people who say you're a fraud.

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Speaker 3: And when you run this real competition, you couldn't hang

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Speaker 3: and you just come back to next year run the table.

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Speaker 3: So that's a good way to set everybody up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it'll be interesting to see does it change

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Speaker 5: where Indiana starts to spend money in the portal, that

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Speaker 5: they start spending the same kind of cash at the

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Speaker 5: same levels that the usual suspects do all the time.

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Speaker 5: My suspicions are that they will Mark Cuban standing on

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Speaker 5: the field and being drenched and confetti. The other night,

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Speaker 5: was asked why he decided to start contributing to that

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Speaker 5: program and what that was all about.

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Speaker 7: You're an investor, right, That's all you've done throughout your

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Speaker 7: whole life. Shark takes about investing. You've given a lot

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Speaker 7: to this program, and I'm always curious to know, from

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Speaker 7: a donor's perspective, we're not getting a building named after

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Speaker 7: your When money goes director to the players, what is

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Speaker 7: the return on investment?

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Speaker 1: Is this it?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 7: What is this what you expected when you started donating?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 8: Not really, I mean honestly, I really jumped in because

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Speaker 8: of how he approaches building a program. They weren't about, Okay,

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Speaker 8: give me enough money to go get you know, to

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Speaker 8: win the portal right, to win this vidting war. He

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Speaker 8: had a very specific approach to his culture. He had

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Speaker 8: the whole thing about, you know, I want production, not

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Speaker 8: you know, futures, not potential.

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Speaker 1: He understood the roles.

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Speaker 8: And how to get got because you know, it's not

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Speaker 8: like even like the NBA where you might keep a

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Speaker 8: right here, it's like you might have him for one year.

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Speaker 8: And that takes a very special way of putting together

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Speaker 8: a program. You need the right players, you know, the role,

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Speaker 8: the right coaches, and so once I understood that, it

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Speaker 2: What I did want was somebody give me more.

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Speaker 8: Let me go bit on this guy. That's why you

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Speaker 8: see us with no five stars, seven four stars, because

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Speaker 8: that's how you build a program, and I think that's

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Speaker 8: the difference for a winning and that was the Shark

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Speaker 8: Tank Fitch right, We're not going to chase, you know,

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Speaker 8: and spend the most, but we're gonna be the smartest

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Speaker 8: and put together a real program that knows how to win.

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Speaker 5: Find it interesting that the guy who makes his living

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Speaker 5: investing and weighing the risks and rewards of businesses all

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Speaker 5: the time, certainly in the public eye on shark tak,

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Speaker 5: but even behind the scenes with other businesses, had the discussion,

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Speaker 5: looked into it deeply and guys, he was like, this

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Speaker 5: is where I'd like to invest my money. I thought

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Speaker 5: that was pretty cool. I know he's an IU alum

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Speaker 5: and so that makes a lot of sense. But he

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Speaker 5: also doesn't sound a guy who's just gonna throw money

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wish I had enough money to invest.

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Speaker 3: You know, always easier to invest when you can lose

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Speaker 3: the money, There's no.

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Speaker 1: Question about that.

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Speaker 5: But he's demonstrated over the course of his lifetime that

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Speaker 5: generally he throws his money in on things that he's

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Speaker 5: going to really think give him big returns Kevin, and.

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Speaker 1: This one did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the return of Joy right right, A fandom, yeah,

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Speaker 2: not a financial return, a joy of you know again,

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Speaker 2: sheer jubilation, something you haven't experienced at all. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's definitely a unique way, and it certainly

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Speaker 2: will be something that Indiana continues to rely on. And

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Speaker 2: to be fair, I'm pretty sure Cuban wasn't really doing

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's where this story is different.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a bit of a misconception of like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: obviously the portal helped, it helped immensely. All the JMU

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Speaker 2: I think there's a misconception of like Indiana's roster is

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Speaker 2: I mean, for Nanda Mendez is not making you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I like, you know, you go back to

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Speaker 5: what Troy Yikman said a couple of weeks ago. These

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Speaker 5: guys they don't want to get into bidding wars. That's

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Speaker 5: not what they want to do. They wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Support their program in a positive way. And hopefully we

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Speaker 1: see a little bit more of that. But something tells

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Speaker 5: I want to spend a lot of money to outbid

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Speaker 5: the other school for the next Qurter. Well, there's going

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's not act like we were born yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Indiana is definitely going to be in bidding wares. They're

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Speaker 2: in bidding wars in the transfer portal. They didn't get

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Speaker 2: of it, I think that's what the misconception is for me.

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Speaker 2: You know, powerful five schools were not knocking on the

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Speaker 2: angelo Pond's or even Curtis Rourke for that manner. Now

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's different. Indiana is largely sitting at,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it'll be fun moving forward to see what

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Speaker 5: they do with this national championship. And I saw a

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Speaker 5: really interesting piece on your site, The Athletic James by

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Speaker 5: will Leach about what's next in college football? Does Indiana

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Speaker 5: keep this momentum going? They keep it going? Is this

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Speaker 5: Is it going to incentivize, as I call the usual suspects,

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Speaker 5: little of all the above? I thought that was a

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Speaker 5: fascinating piece. I don't know if you had a chance

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Speaker 3: No, I have not. I feel like I've read so

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Speaker 3: many different pieces about IU, whether it's in our publication

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Speaker 3: I will say this to you all. It was pretty funny.

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Speaker 3: I saw a video on Twitter yesterday of Kayln Black.

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Speaker 3: I guess he didn't fly home with the team after

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Speaker 3: winning the National championship, so he was on a regular

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Speaker 3: It looks like I don't know to row twenty on

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Speaker 3: the plane, and I'm thinking to myself, he needs to

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Speaker 3: be in first class, right behind the pilot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: National champions It's like, all right, well, I think I

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Speaker 3: if Kaylen Black is sitting by the window by choice,

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Speaker 3: that's one thing. But if that's because he hasn't write ticket,

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Speaker 3: we got to get some of the nil money over

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Speaker 3: to his flight.

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Speaker 2: He should fly the plane right if he wants to.

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Speaker 3: I ain't say all that now on a plan. I

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Speaker 3: love you, brother, but you know I'll take flying a

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Speaker 3: little seriously. But jokes aside. I think you might have

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Speaker 3: thrown this question at Stephen Holder yesterday, Kevin, and feel

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Speaker 3: free for all you guys to weigh in, so I'll

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Speaker 3: throw it back at you realistically, what player do you

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Speaker 3: think will be a really good fit for the Colts.

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Speaker 3: When I say realistically, everyone would love to have friend

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Speaker 3: in the Mendoza if they are in quarterback need right now.

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Speaker 3: But realistically, knowing you don't have a first round pick,

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Speaker 3: knowing Daniel Jones is probably going to be your quarterback

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, what other areas do you think

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Speaker 3: of when they can overlap with what Indiana has.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go with olmar Cooper Junior.

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Speaker 1: First.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a great wide out.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've said Deebo Samuel Vibes kind of what

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Speaker 2: I get from him now. He saw us to declare

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Speaker 2: we will await that. But I think you saw it

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Speaker 2: even in the National Title. I know, statistically it wasn't

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Speaker 2: some you know, star sort of game, but if you

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Speaker 3: Think about this though, if you retain Alec Pierce and

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Speaker 2: know it's a difficult ask from a draft class. I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And look, you never know if the local kid

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Speaker 1: Roster next year? To you, Kevin, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean no, if you got what ten Indiana guys is

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Speaker 2: going to be drafted, obviously that's a that's a decent

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Speaker 2: of Terry Paguli's comments yesterday Bill's owner there and in

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Speaker 3: Do you want to explain that for those listening?

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Speaker 2: We obviously have seen them dump Sean McDermott, retain their

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Speaker 3: I believe he interjected, Yes, Brandon Bean got asked a

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Speaker 2: Right, a second round pick has not worked out so far,

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Speaker 2: obviously if you watch the Bills, I think the wide

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Speaker 3: Well? I go back and forth with it because on

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Speaker 3: Jermaine Pratt had played pretty good football in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 3: not pretty good football. No, especially for your second team

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Speaker 3: he's not pretty good football this past year. That's just

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Speaker 3: As someone who's in the media, you want real answers,

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Speaker 3: these conversations and then say, well, who's fault he is

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Speaker 10: And what are you doing with Ken Coleman anyway, because

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Speaker 3: That's a terrible look. But then the other thing to

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Speaker 3: That's a bad look for you. But let's keep in

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Speaker 3: I mean you've got sacked like he did nothing all year,

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Speaker 3: think the owners tried to later clarify, well, I wasn't

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Speaker 3: I'm truly naturally mean this. Nothing will make me jump

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: If the Bills are a mess and they've won six

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Speaker 1: I think we've discussed us say these words on these airwaves.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, I had to watch my mouth.

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Speaker 5: That was sol I will say, just for the sake

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Speaker 1: When they were seven and one, we were digging everything.

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Speaker 5: But then it fell apart, as it tends to do

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Speaker 2: There was a comment Pagula made yesterday maybe we can

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Speaker 2: It's something we haven't really discussed in great detail. I

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Speaker 2: it's probably worth bringing up again. There could be some

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Speaker 2: You know, I think here maybe an eight o'clock hour,

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Speaker 3: Staying on Josh Allen's tears. I saw my quarterback crying,

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Speaker 2: How I would feel if I were a Bills fan.

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Speaker 5: Like they're not happy based on social media, right.

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Speaker 2: Like you could not be happy with Terry Pegoula's comments yesterday,

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Speaker 5: What I've read on social media a lot of it

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Speaker 5: they don't agree with McDermott getting fired necessarily, they think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, most of them did.

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Speaker 2: They want the GM gone, but the head coach retained.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a similar vibe to here in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 3: here Shan Shan steichenh. I'm sorry, isn't the guy, but

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Speaker 3: it isn't nearly as much victory all for him as

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Speaker 3: it is the GM.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I saw a lot of you yesterday, people saying the

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Speaker 5: problem was sitting at that podium.

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Speaker 1: Those two guys and me got a promotion out of this.

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Speaker 10: I was gonna say, he didn't even get fired, he

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Speaker 10: got promoted, He got a payper what.

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Speaker 2: It is another reminder, and boy, we could probably play

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Speaker 2: that here in our own local market. But make sure

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Speaker 2: that your boss likes you, right, Jeff, I love you man?

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Speaker 2: You look great? Have I ever said how good looking

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Speaker 2: you are? And smart you are? And do you need

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Speaker 2: a backscratch during the brew?

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Speaker 4: You not?

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Speaker 1: Do you not read the comments people send us every day?

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Speaker 1: You might be the only guy?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I am here too, I was about to say

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Speaker 2: something I was probably I know.

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Speaker 5: We got a special tree for you later on tonight

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Speaker 5: the Indiana Miami football game.

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Speaker 1: We'll replay that at seven pm this evening.

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Speaker 5: If you didn't get a chance to listen to Don

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Speaker 5: Fisher the first time around, this is a fantastic opportunity

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Speaker 5: for you to do that. Thanks to some stuff we've

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Speaker 5: worked out with lear Field Communications, we're going to do

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Speaker 5: it again on Someday afternoon at one If you have

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Speaker 5: another opportunity there, that's right, and we will give you

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Speaker 5: live coverage of the celebration at Memorial Stadium at one

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Speaker 5: o'clock on Saturday afternoon, which, if you are a cold

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Speaker 5: of verse, might be the way to celebrate that. Just

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Speaker 5: listen to it on the radio, or I think you

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Speaker 5: can watch it on Big ten Network too, can't you Kevin,

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Speaker 5: didn't I see that yesterday?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that or not.

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Speaker 5: But a lot of things to look forward to and

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Speaker 5: just again bathe in the celebration of the Indiana University

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Speaker 5: football team and its national championship.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue a moment at ninety three five and one

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Speaker 1: o seven five the.

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Speaker 5: Happy Thursday Morning. Welcome into the Fan Morning Show with

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Speaker 5: James Boyd, Kevin Boma. I'm jeff Rickord Mark Dyden over there.

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Speaker 1: Still.

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Speaker 5: I know that was a loss, but you still are

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Speaker 5: feeling Caleb william vibes all day long over there, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to make sure you guys look good

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Speaker 2: with the lighting is do we look good?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 10: I can see James, what do you say? You're usually

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Speaker 10: are James? Teeth and eyes.

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Speaker 9: And eyes.

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Speaker 2: We've moved past this.

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Speaker 3: I have you guys, and we're looking at the YouTube

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Speaker 3: strain myself. I'm still black, which is not as black,

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Speaker 3: so that's good.

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Speaker 2: Probably good progress progress.

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Speaker 1: We are making huge progress.

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Speaker 5: We continue to put this studio together one day at

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Speaker 5: a time, apparently, but we're getting there and.

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Speaker 1: We're happy to have the light today. We're happy to

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Speaker 1: have you.

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Speaker 5: James Boyd and we're happy to be celebrating the Indiana

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Speaker 5: Hoosiers victory in the National Championship Game for at least

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Speaker 5: another day, and it'll go on and on and on.

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Speaker 5: I had mentioned in a moment ago if you want

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Speaker 5: to get your hands eyes I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: get your hands out of, but your eyes on the trophy.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be down in Bloomington today four to

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Speaker 5: seven at the Walmart down there at what is the

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Speaker 5: actually the address is thirty three to fifteen Indiana forty

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Speaker 5: five between four and seven if you want to continue

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Speaker 5: that celebration. As I mentioned a couple of times this morning,

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Speaker 5: we'll replay the National Championship Game tonight beginning at seven PM,

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Speaker 5: and we'll have live coverage of the celebration from Memorial

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Speaker 5: Stadium on Saturday afternoon at one can I.

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Speaker 10: It's my cart by the way at Walmart, like I

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Speaker 10: just you might be able to you get hairs, get

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Speaker 10: some mozzarella sticks.

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Speaker 1: Open here stepping.

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Speaker 2: Over kids that lost their fantasy football league, and after

518
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Speaker 2: you spend twenty four hours and the checkouts not ringing

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Speaker 2: this up.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic stuff.

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Speaker 5: I saw a lot of Indiana either the little flags

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Speaker 5: that you put onto your car yesterday. I saw those

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Speaker 5: quite a bit. I saw all kinds of in the

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Speaker 5: last couple of days. Indiana, garb and gear.

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Speaker 6: Everywhere.

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Speaker 5: People are excited, they're fired up, and it's just fun

527
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Speaker 5: to watch the continuing adventures. Kevin of Fernando Mendoza going

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Speaker 5: on LinkedIn yesterday to post the three business things he

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Speaker 5: learned about his run to the national championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, James Boyd, I think I've gone to Twitter a

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Speaker 2: time or two to see what someone I cover is

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Speaker 2: up to. Maybe Instagram, maybe a stress there on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Certainly I've listened to Isaiah Franklin podcaster or too, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever gone to LinkedIn. I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you, man, my Raiders beat writers, beware, if you

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Speaker 2: won Fernando Mendoza dirt, You're going to LinkedIn yesterday. The

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Speaker 2: three keys. Yes, here's what winning a national championship taught

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Speaker 2: me about. Did you guys laugh at when he said

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Speaker 2: B to B sales?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, kidding kind of which I guess nowadays. College football

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Speaker 2: is kind of business to business, is it not.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he's an honest young man. Are you questioning his integrity?

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Speaker 2: Number one, believe in yourself. Four years ago as a

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Speaker 2: two star recruit playing high school football thirty minutes from

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Speaker 2: hard Rock Stadium with the dream of playing at the

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Speaker 2: highest level. Two days ago, I became a national champion

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Speaker 2: in that same stadium, surrounded by the family who never

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Speaker 2: stopped believing in me. Number two, take the risk. When

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Speaker 2: it's fourth and five of the twelve yard line, you

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Speaker 2: go for it. And number three, remember who got you there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to my teammates, coaches, support staff, professors. How

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Speaker 2: about that shout out my colleagues down there on Bloomted

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Speaker 2: and everyone behind the scenes who helped make this happen.

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Speaker 1: Everybody going to be following him now on LinkedIn, you think.

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Speaker 2: God bless him. I adorsed him for PowerPoint and effort yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Those are the two things that he addorsed him for.

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Speaker 3: I was reading through the comments and I won't expose

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Speaker 3: those here on the air, But boy, as I told

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Speaker 3: you earlier, it is so performative. I should write one

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Speaker 3: friend of the Mendoza, it was awesome to see you

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Speaker 3: stay before the sun and just attack the day and

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Speaker 3: seize the moment.

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Speaker 2: It's really better than LinkedIn language.

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Speaker 3: I mean my goodness. I think I changed my profile

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Speaker 3: picture actually to the one I have on Twitter where

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Speaker 3: it's me on a hockey sled back when I was

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Speaker 3: in college, because I was like, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: be the guy, mainly because I don't have a real job.

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Speaker 3: As you say, Kevin with the suit and the tie

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Speaker 3: when I never wear that. I think I wore a

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Speaker 3: suit twice in twenty twenty six. So yeah, the picture

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Speaker 3: I have up there is more of who I am.

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Speaker 1: Here is the profile for Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 5: You're ready to hire this kid, process driven and detail

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Speaker 5: oriented leader studying business administration at Indiana University's Kelly School

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Speaker 5: of Business after graduating from UC Berkeley. In three years

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Speaker 5: as a quarterback for Indiana football, I apply a strong

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Speaker 5: foundation in leadership, time management, and communication to excel both

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Speaker 5: on and off the field. I'm passionate about leveraging my

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Speaker 5: background in business, real estate, and finance to build a

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Speaker 5: career that combines strategic thinking, teamwork, and community impact. I

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Speaker 5: take pride in fostering positive team culture, adapting the new environments,

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Speaker 5: and driving success through preparation, accountability, and collaboration. One hundred

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Speaker 5: and twelve thousand followers now I'm LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: He might you think there's only one job he wants

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Speaker 1: right now though, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it comes with about fifty million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to the Las Vegas Raiders. Boy, I

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Speaker 3: think that's a franchise. Talk about bad ownership and bad

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Speaker 3: organizational structure, that is one of them. I think when

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Speaker 3: you go to the Raiders, that's where your career goes

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Speaker 3: to die. So if there's anybody who can resurrect the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: it is the guy resurrected Indiana.

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Speaker 2: He's got his idol there, Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: That is true. But you know, I have my fears

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Speaker 3: about that. I told you I don't think that great

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Speaker 3: players become great team builders and great owners and great structure.

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Speaker 2: With the Broncos had some success, John, give me a

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Speaker 2: couple more because some success right now, I.

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Speaker 3: Gotta go back a few years for this man.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's hard to even break into

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Speaker 1: that level. I think for a lot of guys.

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Speaker 3: Is Trump I woul thinking more basketball. I I just

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Speaker 3: think of Michael Jordan and the Wizards, and he was

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Speaker 3: god awful. By the way.

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Speaker 2: I feel like something we obviously understandably haven't really talked

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Speaker 2: about the championship weekend coming up here as we get

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Speaker 2: Seahawks and Rams. I saw the Broncos are the biggest

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Speaker 2: home underdog and Championship weekend history. With Jared Stidham starting,

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Speaker 2: they are five point underdog to the Patriots. You think

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Speaker 2: we're done with the building of outdoor stadiums.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you can just.

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Speaker 1: Make a lot more money with a lot more events.

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Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, it doesn't make any financial sense to

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Speaker 3: build an indoor stadium or an outdoor stadium anymore.

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Speaker 2: It kind of bums me out.

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Speaker 5: But I think, don't you like the fact, like a

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Speaker 5: Lucas Oil you can be an outdoor stadium?

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Speaker 2: Totally get it? Well, let's not get into marrying Lucas

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Speaker 2: Oil as an outdoor stadium here to what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Look at the divisional sites we just had. Did you

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Speaker 2: see the weather in Seattle? Did you see the weather

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Speaker 2: in Chicago? Denver? Was I guess the only good weather?

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Speaker 2: I mean, still outdoors though, football weather this weekend? Where

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Speaker 2: are we going to get it? Seattle on Denver?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Those days are gone? I mean we're in the next

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Speaker 2: Mark's girls, my kids, James Boyd, your little run so

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Speaker 2: that it'll be running around. One day they will grow

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Speaker 2: up with an NFL that it is controlled climate for

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Speaker 2: all thirty two sites.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean think of where it's come from.

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Speaker 9: Though.

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Speaker 5: Back is as late as the early eighties used to

636
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Speaker 5: had West Coast teams like San Francisco, Oakland, San Diego,

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Speaker 5: even Cleveland for a while playing the early September games

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Speaker 5: with dirt infield on part of the football field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the Raiders had that like four

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Speaker 2: years ago, still happening again. I totally get it. I

641
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Speaker 2: want to be very clear. I understand the financial element

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Speaker 2: of being able to be a twelve month out of

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Speaker 2: the year venue.

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Speaker 3: Obviously motaalistic society man money.

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Speaker 2: Talks benefited Lucas Soil. But the football purists out there,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Mark, you want a little dome there

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Speaker 2: and Ham in Indiana, Gary, Indiana or are you guys

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Speaker 2: still football weather?

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't mind a retractable roof. I think we would

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Speaker 10: get more more use than.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so hear me out, but you have a retractable roof.

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Speaker 2: The Bears make the NFC Championship game, it's thirty degrees outside.

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Speaker 2: Open it? Are they really going to open it?

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Speaker 10: I would like to think that they would say, this

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Speaker 10: is an advantage for us to open the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: open it up.

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Speaker 3: No, Mark, I can't. I can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 10: Close it up when Taylor when it comes to town.

660
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 10: Open it up when we're playing the Rams again.

661
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 5: Don't you miss the tweets of Jim Mersey saying what

662
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: the roof was, the status the roof was going to

663
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 5: be on game day, the first thing in the morning.

664
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Speaker 3: And to be honest, I always thought those were kind

665
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: of pointless ones who got to like late October. Of

666
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: course it's gonna be closed. It's freezing, So I.

667
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: Mean, I appreciate the consistency.

668
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: I get that now, But no, we'll get to a

669
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: point in about twenty years where there's just nowhere else

670
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: outdoor games outside of like Lambeau. I think the day

671
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: we see Lambeau get a dome is like the day

672
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: of the world will end.

673
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Cleveland.

674
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: Cleveland supposed to be building a dome.

675
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo, what's Buffalo's keeping outdoors?

676
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: Canopy?

677
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: It says it's open air with a canopy.

678
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

679
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 10: I know, it says an open air canopy with heating,

680
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 10: possibly heating accessible I'm like, what does that mean.

681
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't understand.

682
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 10: It says an open air stadium with a large canopy

683
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 10: and advanced heating set to open in twenty twenty six.

684
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: I told you my hot take about Northern Canada. It's

685
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: trying to get you to come there.

686
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 10: It says the Jaguars Stadium is also going to have

687
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 10: a canopy roof.

688
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: We can't be talking about Florida. Well, these canopies.

689
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: One thing I'll say about Jacksonville, which is joy Ericson's

690
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: favorite place to travel, I'm laughing because it is not well.

691
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: When they build a new stadium, let's hope it's not

692
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: leaky like the last one. Every time I go down there,

693
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: you all, and I know people don't care about this,

694
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: they don't cover the games, but just imagine going to

695
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: a different office for a day and the roof is

696
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: leaking every time you go there. And that's a real

697
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: thing that happens there. There's towels inne down there. No, no, no,

698
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: I guess it, you know, I guess it matches up

699
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: pretty well. But there's a literal trash can in the

700
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: middle of the press block that catches the water because

701
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: it leaks down there. So it's about town they build

702
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: something new.

703
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: I also want to say that as recently I don't know, Mark,

704
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 5: what would you say, twenty twenty five years ago, before

705
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: field turf completely erased all the astro turf. I remember

706
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 5: summertime a lot of baseball games that had AstroTurf. They'd

707
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 5: go down and the on field temperature would be like

708
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five one hundred and thirty degrees.

709
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: You can't have on the other side till you remember

710
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: those days, Mark, Oh yeah, man, So.

711
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 10: That looked like the worst pain of all time landing

712
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 10: on astro turf with like concrete underneath you.

713
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: That that looked like him sound horrible.

714
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: So we have come a long way in the.

715
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: Paint of the concrete light green. Yes, pretty much what

716
00:31:59,640 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 2: it is.

717
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 5: And you cannot convince me in your Reds guy that

718
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: the decade plus of Ken Griffy Jr. Playing on that

719
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 5: god awful concrete AstroTurf with the Kingdom didn't lead to

720
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: all of his late career leg and back problems.

721
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: You'll never convince me. So that wasn't the problem.

722
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: So I have a question when it comes to the

723
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 3: cold to do plowing turf. I believe looking at their

724
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: free agent class, how many of these guys are being

725
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: brought back. I'll outlist some of them off. You got

726
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: Brad Smith, Daniel Jones, Samson, abucom Quity Pay, Mary Cox,

727
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: Danny Pinser, Alec Peers, Nick Cross, not many other big

728
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: names on here. But like I've thought about, they're usually

729
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: like the Colt's way of doing things is to keep

730
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: their guys. How many these guys are worth keeping? We've

731
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: been trying to.

732
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: Keep well Jones and Piers one on one a Nick Cross.

733
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: That's not how I'm staying on table for anybody else. Cross,

734
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: I think is one.

735
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Of the more that's an interesting difficult.

736
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: Ones to gauge.

737
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: James.

738
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: I think he has become a very quality player. You

739
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: thought when you drafted him it would kind of take

740
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: a little while, and it did. But can you pay

741
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: two safeties big money? That would be the biggest question

742
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: I would have. I don't know if you can now

743
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: having said that, James, if I said to you, who's

744
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: the starting safety next year of Nick Cross, Walks, Hunter Wohler,

745
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: Liz Frank injury, He's never played a stap in the NFL,

746
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: you know, but we never seen him play right, I

747
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: mean to be totally unfair to hand him starting keys

748
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: like that. So that's where again I can get torn

749
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: on the Nick Cross thing. Also, let's think about the

750
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: safety market. Remember Julian Blackman's fre agency a few years ago.

751
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: He was very upset that the market did not merit

752
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: much of a deal for him. He actually came back

753
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: to the Colts what three or four weeks into free agency.

754
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: So is the safety market going to look at Nick

755
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: Cross in the same light. He's more of a box

756
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: safety and does that, you know, diminish a little bit

757
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: of his value as well. So I think Cross is

758
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: a difficult one. You know, there there's a couple of

759
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: dudes i'd bring back on vet minimums. Are you bringing

760
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: back Jermaine Pratt at linebacker?

761
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: Possibly? He was on a minimum deal.

762
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 5: He's going to make this season just under the market value,

763
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: according to spot track is about two point eight.

764
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: Million for him.

765
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Jermaine Pratt at two point eight

766
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: million or Desire Franklin at whatever he's making ten.

767
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm proud at that price.

768
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: Well, I've already talked about how now is that a

769
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: conversation the Colt should have If you're trying to create

770
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: more money, you know, younger, faster. There's really not much

771
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: of a difference between Pratt and Franklin.

772
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: No so like, and Pratt actually played for Luonromo, assuming

773
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: that he stays your defensive coordinator right rapport there as well.

774
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: You gotta have you have to create some cap space

775
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: at probably multiple places. Michael Pittman Junior is the obvious one.

776
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: We keep on coming back to the twenty nine million

777
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: dollar cap hit. But you know, I think those are

778
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: some of the conversations that they have to have and to.

779
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: Call the Dodgers and figure this out, call the Dodgers,

780
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: figure out how to move a couple zeros in different places.

781
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: And Dodgers don't care. They'll pay whatever tax. We're just

782
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: gonna sign whatever.

783
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: Can we defer some of these payments to make sure

784
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: you have enough cap space. But yeah, jokes aside only

785
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: the Dodgers. They got to get creative and I think

786
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: that is the hardest part.

787
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: Which they haven't really done in the Ballad era.

788
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: I know, but again he was a lot different last

789
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: year asking him.

790
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: But this is different difference, different than ye that was

791
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: spending money they had just on outside of the building. Guys,

792
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 2: you're asking Chris Ballard to say you handed these dudes

793
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: notable second and or third contracts. Now you have to

794
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: admit it's time to let them go, right with years

795
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: with money still left in their deal. That is not

796
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: something he's done it all. I mean, James, we could

797
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: do this exercise one day. Let's think of the nine

798
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: year history of Ballard and non quarterbacks he's literally let go.

799
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: The list is not as long as you would think.

800
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: I mean, it is a short list of you know

801
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: guys that at the very least you have to restructure.

802
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Is he feeling a higher sense of urgency?

803
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: Kevin, Well, you know what I did ask that question?

804
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: Is it playoffs or bust? You know? Carly Ers Gordon

805
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: said that the urgency was higher than last year. When

806
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: I kind of pressed her on that, what do you

807
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: mean it's higher than before? Wasn't it high last year?

808
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: And she said, what's higher than last year? All of

809
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: that I think means a bunch of nothing. But the

810
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: one tangible part of it is he doesn't have an

811
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: extension and for the first time in his ten year tenure,

812
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: now he's going into the final year of his contract.

813
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 3: So does that put some extra fire under your butt.

814
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, but my overall thinking is, whatever you do,

815
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: whether it's via the draft or free agency, you have

816
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: to put yourself into contention. Otherwise it is a complete

817
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: waste of time. And I know it's hard to do.

818
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 3: And honestly, watching the playoffs you all was thinking to myself, boy,

819
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: the Colts might not have the quarterback and they sure

820
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: don't have the defense. Watching some of these teams perform,

821
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: but how do you get there? How do you close

822
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: the gap? Because if you're telling the fan base and

823
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: the core players of his team, probably more importantly guys

824
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 3: a Quentin Nelson and others, oh we're getting there. Well, brother,

825
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 3: we like the Israelites. We've been out here for forty

826
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: years in the wilderness. Get me there, you know, I

827
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: want to see something man, not have israel Lites on

828
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: the waiting on some manner from the.

829
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: Sky eight eighteen eight sixteen Bingo card here. That was

830
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: really good.

831
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: James of attention in Sunday School.

832
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: James waiting for somebody to deliver him this the outdoor stadium.

833
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: The man will fall from the sky. Open that room.

834
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: He amen. Brothermen, Well it gets down to that.

835
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: You just have perfect brother all the time.

836
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: Did we go to church on a Sunday, snowy Sunday

837
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: here in India and you got James Boyd and Kevin

838
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: Bowen preaching?

839
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: Oh Man. Take a look though at the four teams.

840
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 5: That are left in the NFL playoffs, New England, Denver

841
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: and obviously the Seattle Seahawks and Los Angeles Rams. I

842
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 5: didn't it feel like this year right now, like this

843
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 5: was as wide open as the NFL has been in

844
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 5: a long long time.

845
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what makes this thing for the Colts

846
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: because as much as I've criticized them, I do think

847
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: the trajector of your season is totally different if you

848
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: have a healthy Daniel Jones. And I'm not just saying

849
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 3: keeping his achilles intact, I mean the broken leg as well,

850
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: if he has his lower extremities hold up. I do

851
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: think that they're a playoff team, and once you get in,

852
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: the weird part about the NFL is that you really

853
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 3: do kind of have a chance if you got somewhat

854
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: of a pretty good quarterback, because it can go either

855
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 3: way on any Sunday when we've seen some of these games. Yes,

856
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: the Rams are in the NFC championship, but they were

857
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: a drive away from not being past the first round

858
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: against the Panthers. So it is disappointing, but hey man,

859
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: we can't live in what IF's got to live in what.

860
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, I mean it is funny. I thought it

861
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: was wide open entering the playoffs and then look who's

862
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: left one seed, one seed, two seed, and everybody thought

863
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: the Rams were the pick.

864
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

865
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: You know, it is kind of wild how it's unfolded now.

866
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: The games have been terrific. James, to your point, they

867
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: could have lost in Carolina, and you know, you look

868
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: at some of these other games. Denver easily could have

869
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: lost as well. Seattle obviously was absolutely dominant, but you know,

870
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: it could have changed in some other areas. I did

871
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 2: see the Rams. If they do make the Super Bowl,

872
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: I believe the NFL sent this out, they'll be the

873
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: second team in the last fifteen years, the non division

874
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: winner to make the Super Bowl. The only other team

875
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: in the last fifteen years to have done that would

876
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: be the Tom Brady led Bucks. So again, the road

877
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: games for them, Carolina, Chicago, and then we'll see if

878
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: they can get it done Seattle. It's eerie how similar

879
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: the stats are with the first two meetings of Rams Seahawks.

880
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: It's like right there, neck and neck. So looking forward

881
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: to that one again. That'll be the I believe that's

882
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: the first game. Is that correct?

883
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 3: On Sunday?

884
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: That's second? Okay, so AFC will start is five point

885
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: underdog on that with Jared Stidham, biggest home underdog and

886
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: championship history, and then thank you Mark rams Seahawks to follow.

887
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 5: So right now, the Seahawks are plus one fifty, the

888
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 5: Rams are plus two ten, Patriots are plus two forty

889
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 5: in the Broncos are now plus twelve hundred. Boenick's having

890
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 5: a little bit of an impact on that or the

891
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 5: absence of bo Nicks.

892
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jared Stetham, you're up? How about that?

893
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: He has a chance to do the funniest thing ever.

894
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 5: Right, last time the Patriots played a championship type game

895
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: against a backup?

896
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: How'd that work out?

897
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: Did not go?

898
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: Well?

899
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: Boy, you couldn't tell me nothing about with Nick Foles,

900
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: I outdueled the goat in the biggest game of my life.

901
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 3: Build a statue and he has good morning.

902
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: Talking some college basketball today ninety three five and went

903
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 5: o seven to five. The Fan, Kevin Bowen, James Boyd,

904
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 5: I'm jeff Rickord, Mark Dyton on the Ones and Twoes

905
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 5: this morning. Quick on that buzzer though, Man, I've always

906
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 5: quick on the buzzer.

907
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 10: Hey, Kevin's made a couple of errors today about the

908
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 10: same player, like eight times.

909
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm c J.

910
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: Stroud in Foxborough.

911
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 9: C J.

912
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Stroud or Josh Allen.

913
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess you go either.

914
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who's not been fundling the ball lately.

915
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 5: The Butler Bulldogs. They've won a couple of games in

916
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 5: a row. Now they call back home tomorrow night. And

917
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 5: here to tell us a little bit more about how

918
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: things are going is the head coach, the Bulldog's dad, Matta,

919
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 5: who joins us every Thursday morning here on the Fan

920
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 5: Morning Show. Coach, good to talk to you after a

921
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 5: couple of straight wins. You got to be in a

922
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 5: pretty good mood this week.

923
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, things are good. We, like you said,

924
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 6: we've had a couple of wins. But you, guys, thought

925
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 6: is in the Big eastudent college basketball, in any league,

926
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 6: I don't care what what division you're in. I mean,

927
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 6: anytime you get wins, it's huge for you. And I

928
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 6: thought the Seton Hall game Saturday was was a big

929
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 6: win for us, just in terms of, you know, being

930
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 6: able to sustain the lead. You know, Seaton Hall have

931
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 6: been a team that is shown them to make these

932
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 6: unbelievable comebacks all season long, and we held them off.

933
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 6: And then the Paul game Tuesday night, you know, kind

934
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 6: of the same thing. We're down at halftime by a

935
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 6: couple of points and come out and go on a

936
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 6: heck of a run and able to finish it off.

937
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 6: And like I said, I keep telling our team, I

938
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 6: don't think we've played our best basketball yet. We've got

939
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 6: to keep building a lot of that, just on us

940
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 6: of having the mind right to play collectively the best

941
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 6: that we can coach.

942
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: Came out to practice I think in October, and I

943
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: remember walking out a Hinkle that afternoon thinking to myself, Wow,

944
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: Michael Jay is a grown man, and that dude might

945
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: be all Biggie's first team. I'm not gonna lie. He

946
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: maybe has been better than I even thought he would be.

947
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: I know you said the other night sick as a dog,

948
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: weren't sure if he was going to play in the game.

949
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: How would you kind of assess what you thought you

950
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: were getting in him out of the transfer portal, and

951
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: then what he's provided you, Yeah.

952
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 6: Tell you what, what a tremendous talent. I think. I

953
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 6: think he's one of the best all around college players

954
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 6: in the country. I really do. What he does for

955
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 6: us offensively, what he does for us defensively, it is amazing.

956
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 6: And you know, he's one of those guys that and

957
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 6: I've always liked to coach. He say, guys that have

958
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 6: a motor. His his motor never stops. You know, Day Tuesday,

959
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 6: find out he's sick, and I didn't know if he's

960
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: gonna be able to play, and sure enough he did.

961
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 6: And and you know, it's funny because I don't think

962
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 6: to the common eye they could see. I knew he

963
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 6: wasn't all the way there, but you can never tell

964
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 6: it by watching him. I mean, just to kid, cares

965
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 6: so much and does so much. And you know, we're

966
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 6: we're lucky to my I thought he was gonna be

967
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 6: a really good player for us when we got him

968
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 6: in the portal. I you know, he's exceeded my my

969
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 6: expectations and and uh and the good thing about him

970
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 6: is he'll be in the gym here in a few

971
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 6: minutes wanted to work on his game, and he just

972
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 6: he never stops that.

973
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: I know, when you talk about your program, defense is

974
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: always one of the pillars, as is most coaches in

975
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: the country. But when you look at that the Paul performance,

976
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: Sure there's some things you want to clean up, but

977
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: when you have three first half shot clock valation that

978
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: you forced, what do you think that says about the

979
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: connectiveness of your team on that side of the ball.

980
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 6: I thought we were good defensively. I didn't know until

981
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 6: I went back and watched the game. We forced them

982
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 6: to make some really tough shots, especially in the first half,

983
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 6: and then they were to their credit, they were they

984
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 6: were going in. But uh, you know, defense, as you said,

985
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 6: that is something you want to always hang your hat on,

986
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 6: and it's been a little problematic for us at times

987
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 6: throughout the season this year. We've given up a lot

988
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 6: of points, but we were playing faster. We've slowed down

989
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 6: a little bit now and I think that's helping our

990
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 6: defense some. But I know that's you know, we got

991
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 6: Marquette Friday night and they played as fast as anybody

992
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 6: that we've played this year. So you know, getting back

993
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 6: in our defense set is going to be huge for us.

994
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: And that's voice of fad Manitu in a row for

995
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs. As he said, Marquette coming up the checkered

996
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: out inside of Hinkle, A little racing theme inside of

997
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: that building coming up tomorrow night at a coach. Right now,

998
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: the talk of college basketball seems to be nationally rooted

999
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: so much around players that have signed professional contracts and

1000
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: yet going back to college. And I guess having eligibility

1001
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: part of me is like, boy, could you call Greg

1002
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: Odin or Mike Conley or you know, Gordon Hayward dial

1003
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: them back up? Do you have an opinion on that

1004
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: happening right now across college basketball?

1005
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 6: I don't know if you can truly call it college

1006
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 6: basketball anymore. It's nothing, nothing surprises me anymore, to be

1007
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 6: honest with you. And I don't know where they draw

1008
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 6: the line and what's right and what's wrong anymore. But

1009
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 6: you know, I just I'm I'm as old school as

1010
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 6: they come. And you know, just from the standpoint of

1011
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 6: of you know, coming in and getting your degree and

1012
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 6: you know, back of this kind of an anomalyes guys

1013
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 6: after early and now why not do it? And I

1014
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 6: know this is coaches. I mean, I don't fold the coaches.

1015
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 6: You know, we got to stay on our toes and

1016
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 6: be creative of you know, how we can get players nowadays,

1017
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 6: and it's not like it used to be. I think

1018
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 6: when I was at Ohio State, we had three freshmen

1019
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 6: in high school commit to us, you know, And those

1020
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 6: days are gone in terms of the recruitment and to

1021
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 6: know the families, the kids, and now it's amazing the

1022
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 6: channels you have to go through to in the recruiting process.

1023
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: If there was one guardrail you could establish portal nil

1024
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: eligibility anything. If there's one guardrail you could establish tomorrow

1025
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: in college basketball, what would that be?

1026
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I don't know.

1027
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: I just.

1028
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 6: I don't know if I can answer that, honestly, because

1029
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 6: there's a lot of things and I'm not as in

1030
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 6: tune with you know. I'm sort of like, Hey, whatever happens, happens,

1031
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 6: you deal with it because I have no say so

1032
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 6: in it. But I wish you could get the purity

1033
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 6: of the game back a little bit. But like I said,

1034
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 6: I think those days are gone in terms of you know,

1035
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 6: it's like when Tony Bennett called me and told me

1036
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 6: he was thing about retiring and told me. He was

1037
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 6: asking me a lot of questions about retirement, and I

1038
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 6: told him, said, look, you won one of the last

1039
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 6: national championships when it was pure, when it was you know,

1040
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 6: the right way before all this stuff in il and

1041
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 6: you know, no set out and transferred that sort of thing.

1042
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 6: So I think the older ones are probably a little

1043
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 6: bit more of what college was meant to be.

1044
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 5: I'm talking to that mada head basketball coach at Butler University,

1045
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 5: brought to you every week by Thompson Furniture and Mattress

1046
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 5: and Columbus in business since the year before KO field

1047
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 5: House opened in nineteen twenty seven.

1048
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you more about that in a second.

1049
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 5: Coach, we know you love football, we know you pay

1050
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 5: attention what's going on.

1051
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: I believe what were you thinking Monday night? As as

1052
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: a coach of college sports?

1053
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 5: What are you thinking when the gun goes off and

1054
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: Indiana is celebrating Monday Night?

1055
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 6: I honestly, I could not be happier because you know,

1056
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 6: I grew up as a kid an Indiana fan, and

1057
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 6: and obviously Bob Knight and all that stuff, and then

1058
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 6: just seeing all the trials and tribulations of football program

1059
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 6: had gone through and how you guys felt. But that

1060
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 6: was a they were not going to lose that game.

1061
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: It was it was.

1062
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 6: Almost like death. It was almost like the Pacers last year.

1063
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 6: If trese w uh one got hurt, I think they

1064
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 6: were going to beat Oklahoma City. Just everything was right

1065
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 6: at the end of the season. And you know, and

1066
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 6: that's how it was for Indiana. You know, really the

1067
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 6: last two years, if you think about it, they win

1068
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 6: the close games. They I don't know, just uh did

1069
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 6: it did my heart good? I'll be honest with you.

1070
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 6: And like I said, for for Indiana and Scott Dolson

1071
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 6: to win the national championship is so so.

1072
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask this for a while, and not

1073
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: just to you specifically, but the coaches in general. You

1074
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: do the work, the preparation, you got the game plan,

1075
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 5: you go through the plays.

1076
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: The players know the plays. You know, they know the plays.

1077
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: That call is on for fourth and five at the

1078
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: twelve the other night.

1079
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 5: But as a coach, when a player takes that play,

1080
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 5: elevates it and does something special, what's that do for

1081
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 5: you as a head coach?

1082
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think.

1083
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 6: That's the gratifying thing and coaching when you see guys

1084
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 6: make plays and you see the preparation come into fruation

1085
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 6: right right before. You're very eyes and I know there's

1086
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 6: they had all the faith in them. And I've called

1087
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 6: plays for guys for game winners that I trusted. I

1088
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 6: saw it in practice. I've seen it, you know, in games.

1089
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 6: And you know, a year we beat Illinois, met Sovester

1090
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 6: was one for five for three and I call the

1091
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 6: game winner for him to win it, just because I

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Speaker 6: knew he'd hit big shots before he made big plays

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Speaker 6: and so we probably have a little more insight to

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Speaker 6: what we're doing there. But no, that was fourth and five.

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Speaker 6: It was an amazing call.

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Speaker 1: And just an amazing run.

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Speaker 5: And again the player to elevate that the way that

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00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: he executed that are you do you become for a

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Speaker 5: second like the rest of us.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh my.

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Speaker 6: Gosh, absolutely yeah. I was is jumping off my couch

1102
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 6: and as excited as I could be.

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Speaker 5: As for sure, Well, coach, thanks as always for joining

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00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: us and spend a few minutes with us each week.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it and we look forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: you play tomorrow night at home. It'll be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun.

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Speaker 6: All right, sounds good, guys.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Hello with James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, Mark Dike, and

1110
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Speaker 5: I'm jeff Rickard. Welcome into the Fan Morning Show. We're

1111
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 5: talking a little NBA basketball. All the Pacers falling to

1112
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 5: the Celtics last night, they struggling again and it's all

1113
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 5: been almost all Pastcal Siakay, who covers the team day in,

1114
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 5: day out, night in, night out, year in, year out,

1115
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 5: joined us now in the Payloss Lickuers Hotline. That would

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Speaker 5: be Scott Agnes from Fieldhouse Files. Good morning, Scott, Happy

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00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 5: championship week to you, man.

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00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: I know you were excited this week.

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00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an incredible experience these last seven weeks

1121
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: following the IU football team, but especially nothing better than

1122
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: this past week down in Miami.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've had an amazing run here.

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00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: You've had NBA Finals, you've had WNBA semi finals, now

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00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 5: you've got a national championship run.

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Speaker 1: These years don't happen like this very often, my man,

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00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: not at all.

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Speaker 4: No, And you can even throw in lesser things like

1129
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: Big ten tournaments in town and w NBA All Star

1130
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: before that NBA All Star. So really, for the last year,

1131
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 4: sixteen months, it's been quite the run.

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Speaker 2: Scott, congrats man, I know how much IU football's meant

1133
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: to you and your family throughout the years. You've certainly

1134
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: been a Day one guy. What was Monday night like

1135
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: down there in Miami.

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00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, I still go back. You've probably

1137
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: been down there, but it's just a bizarre spot. You know,

1138
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: it's ten miles from everything, and so everyone was just

1139
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 4: concerned where to get go.

1140
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 9: And I mean our.

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00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 4: Tailgate spot KB was literally on the F one track, So.

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00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 9: That was that was quite hilarious.

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00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 4: And the group we were in there with, we are

1144
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: surrounded by IU fans, so it felt like the other games,

1145
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 4: and it's like, all right, this is a good indication

1146
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 4: of what it'll be. Though you knew that Miami was

1147
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 4: given at least twenty thousand seats as well, and so

1148
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: then you get in there and it probably with sixty

1149
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 4: five percent IU fans yet again, and it was just

1150
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: remarkable the number of people and familiar faces new and

1151
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: old that that I ran into as everybody just continued

1152
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 4: to kind of celebrate everything we've been through over however

1153
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 4: long you've been following the team. So that was probably

1154
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 4: my favorite thing, is seeing it through through the eyes

1155
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: of people that have been there through the sick and

1156
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: Thin one.

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00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: More on that, Scott, did you sleep at all or

1158
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: did you just stay up to make sure it was real?

1159
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 4: So, I'll be honest, until I never really truly understood

1160
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: the thought of like it hadn't sunk in yet.

1161
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 9: This hasn't sunk in yet.

1162
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 4: I don't know why. But I was up exactly that

1163
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 4: family went to bed. It was five am. I was

1164
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 4: down in the lobby with a few others just trying

1165
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: to like make sure this was real. Yeah, so you're

1166
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: exactly right. I got a handful of hours and then

1167
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: my flight wasn't until the night the next night, Tuesday night,

1168
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: and so tried to soak it in and still him

1169
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: as much as possible.

1170
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: Love that, Love that now. Pivoting to the Pacers, Scott,

1171
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: we saw them taking other loss last night. It does

1172
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: feel like Pascal Siakam has despite the loss, is a

1173
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 3: all star campaign. What are the chances do you think

1174
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: of him actually getting that nod?

1175
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say slightly above fifty fifth.

1176
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 4: The challenge in all this, he's going to need it

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00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 4: from the head coaches, but they're the ones that are

1178
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: really watching the games. It's not a popularity contest like

1179
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: the starting lineup is and so.

1180
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 9: These coaches talk.

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00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 4: We know Rick Carlisle probably talks to more coaches than

1182
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: anyone else as the outgoing president of Basketball Coaches Association

1183
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 4: for the last twenty years now, he's made his case

1184
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 4: for several opponents in addition to Pascal and Show that

1185
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 4: usually comes up in all this the challenges getting past

1186
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: the record, I'm sure, but there's about seven, eight, nine,

1187
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 4: ten different guys that he's in that cluster right now.

1188
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 4: I generally think he'll be one of the last in,

1189
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: but we'll see.

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 5: He also has a little bit of a track record too.

1191
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 5: It's not like he hasn't done big things in the

1192
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 5: NBA prior, and that matters sometimes as they try and

1193
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 5: figure out who's going where.

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Speaker 1: It's just going to be a tough season. Man.

1195
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 5: You're going to try to scratch out whatever you can

1196
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 5: and look at players whenever you can. But what is

1197
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 5: the rest of James in February look like for this

1198
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 5: Pacers team?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just trying to see more growth

1200
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 4: every single game. It's trying to be more consistent. The

1201
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 4: challenge has just been the same things reappearing every single

1202
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 4: game and becoming season long themes, whether it's a couple

1203
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 4: giving up a couple of big runs throughout games Like

1204
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 4: last night, it was that second quarter that was spelled

1205
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 4: doom for them. Ultimately they had a better second half,

1206
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 4: but by then it was too much to overcover. So

1207
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Speaker 4: I'm looking at guys getting healthy. I'm looking at individual development.

1208
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: Like Walker scoring wise, was really good last night. They

1209
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 4: tried some different things on who he was guarding and

1210
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 4: things like that. The furfee we continue to see sharp things.

1211
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: He remains in the starting lineup. And then what are

1212
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 4: they doing at the center spot? I think that's the

1213
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 4: number one question beyond health, that they will have to

1214
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 4: answer for now and especially for next season.

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Speaker 2: Scott, you might have just answered it there and again.

1216
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Speaker 2: Scott agnesfield House files or you can find his work

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Speaker 2: as we talk to you on this Thursday morning. It's

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Speaker 2: two weeks out from the trade deadline. Would Benedict Matherin's

1219
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: situation be one on the curiosity list and then center

1220
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: B two? Anything else I'm missing here in regards to

1221
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: the trade deadline? Or is that kind of where you're

1222
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: looking here in the next two weeks?

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Speaker 9: No, that really sounds about right there.

1224
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 4: I just I you can just choose the pun that

1225
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: you can just see the Pacers' issues at the center

1226
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 4: of it is literally that center spot. And we kind

1227
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: of expected that going into the season before health took

1228
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 4: the overwhelming scene to this season. But you got to

1229
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 4: figure that out, and then, which I'm sure they have

1230
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 4: at this point, is what's their approach. How much are

1231
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: they willing to spend potentially on Benedict Mathern, who's on

1232
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 4: a contract here, And if you know you're far apart,

1233
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 4: if you don't see any agreement possible, then you do

1234
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 4: have to reach out and decide about moving on. But

1235
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a given. I don't think that's

1236
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: a lock by any means a player of his caliber.

1237
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: But I also know the salary cap onifications and right

1238
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 4: now they are right up against it, certainly for this year,

1239
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 4: but then you're going to project that out several few years,

1240
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: and they've really lined up contracts quite well around Tyreese Halliburton,

1241
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 4: and it would almost questionably, especially when you add in

1242
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 4: them needing to solve the center spots of them being

1243
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: a tax team next year. But with Tyree's being back,

1244
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 4: they have to go for they have to be a

1245
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 4: tax team. If they need to to make it possible,

1246
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: no excuses.

1247
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 5: Scott agnesfield House Files joining us on the pay Less

1248
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 5: Liquors Hotline this morning, talk some Pacers basketball.

1249
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: What do we know now about Obi Toppin? Is he

1250
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: getting close? We still got a month ago. Where are

1251
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: we at?

1252
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 4: We have not gotten any update of any kind, Jeff

1253
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 4: from there. Rick Carlisle was very strict saying right after

1254
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: the surgery, hey, don't ask us about him until February first.

1255
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 9: So we're approaching that.

1256
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: We've seen him do some things, but not a ton,

1257
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: nothing a significant note to pass along, and so yeah,

1258
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 4: we're kind of still.

1259
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 9: In the dark with that situation.

1260
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: He's the guy they minced all season long, and he

1261
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 4: would have really helped, I think, clarify what they were

1262
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 4: able to do and how they would have been able

1263
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: to fill the void in the short term at that

1264
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: center role.

1265
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: Last one for me, Scott, kind of an open ended question,

1266
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: but what defines success for the Patier's the rest of

1267
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: the way. Is he just making sure, as Kevin Bowen

1268
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: alluded to earlier this morning, keeping Pascal Siakam in bubble rap,

1269
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 3: making sure he says healthy for win. Everything kind of

1270
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: gets back on track next year? Is it trying to

1271
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: see if you can still get some growth out of

1272
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: Jarris Walker and Matted if they're on the team pass

1273
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: the trade deadline? Like, how do you view again, what

1274
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: success is for this team?

1275
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1276
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 4: No, that's a really good question of how setting the

1277
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: standard for not only the team, but what to expect

1278
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 4: and what you need to be demanding of this bunch. Look, guys, players,

1279
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 4: they're thinking about the team. They're thinking about wins, They're

1280
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: thinking about having a good day tonight and tomorrow. They're

1281
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: not thinking about the lottery or the draft like many fans.

1282
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: All fans probably are at this point, which is totally understandable.

1283
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 4: But from the team standpoint, I go back number one

1284
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: to a quote Rick Carlisle said several years ago when

1285
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 4: he said, earning your culture is an everyday thing.

1286
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 9: So I think it's continuing to play up to a standard.

1287
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: And I think if anything, that James is what we

1288
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: learned from IU football.

1289
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 9: It's not the personality, it's not the coach.

1290
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: It's the standard and disciplined that is asked and demanded

1291
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: of the guys every single day.

1292
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 9: So to me, that's number one.

1293
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 4: Secondly, you want to continue to see more growth as

1294
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 4: a reference from some of the younger guys, because maybe

1295
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 4: you make decisions on them more. If anything, maybe they

1296
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: could be become chips that you utilize for a potential trade.

1297
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I don't know if you can limit

1298
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: Pascal's minutes just a little bit so that you're managing

1299
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 4: his workload in a more comfortable spot. With all that,

1300
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: and then I think I would in there getting back

1301
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 4: to what we knew this could this team could do defensively,

1302
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 4: because there's been a there's been a lot of good things,

1303
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 4: but there's also been some great challenges. And then I

1304
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 4: believe that's what's really trickled in and spoiled what they've

1305
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 4: done on the and been unable to do on the

1306
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 4: offensive end many of these nights.

1307
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: Scott last last one shifteen gears. Here we saw the

1308
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: Fever announce their schedule for next season on May ninth.

1309
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: I want to say the opener could be Kaitlyn Clark

1310
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: and Page Beckers. Are we just under the impression that

1311
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: they'll figure out the CBA thing like I don't, I

1312
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: don't know. It seems a little odd how this is

1313
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: all played out.

1314
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think we should assume anything.

1315
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 4: First of all, I don't think this is a great

1316
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 4: indication or a bad one.

1317
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 9: I think this is the WNBA.

1318
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 4: Going in status quo, trying to make sure probably number one,

1319
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 4: more than anything beyond selling tickets or drumming up excitement.

1320
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 4: To me, number one, this was making sure they have

1321
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 4: those dates booked at these arenas. Because if I'm one

1322
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 4: of these arenas and I don't have any thing locked in,

1323
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 4: aren't you going to sell a concert or Disney on

1324
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 4: ice or or anything like that. And so I think

1325
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 4: they felt they needed to proceed forward with all of

1326
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 4: that because the reality is, it doesn't feel like they've

1327
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 4: moved any any closer in their communication or getting closer

1328
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 4: to a deal here. And so, yes, it's all nice

1329
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 4: that we have potential dates, but there's also more pressing

1330
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: issues that need to be attended to. There's a couple

1331
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 4: of new teams that have zero players right now, so

1332
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 4: that's that's where it makes it difficult to discuss teams

1333
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 4: in their schedules when we don't know how an expansion

1334
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 4: draft looks like, and so many other line items.

1335
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and just speaking specifically about the fever, they got

1336
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 5: a lot of roster questions to take care of aside

1337
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 5: from what you're just talking about there.

1338
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: As most teams do, this could get really dicey for

1339
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: a while entirely.

1340
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can't assume even when you come to

1341
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 4: an agreement, oh yeah, then you're good within the next

1342
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 4: week or two. No, these things take time organization. How

1343
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 4: are you gonna handle this? I'm sure through back channels

1344
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: and such, the league's trying to keep league executives updated

1345
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 4: on potential dates, you know, for certain things, so that

1346
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: they can plan ahead. And it's you know, the scouting

1347
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 4: is not stopping, but this is this is certainly a

1348
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: yellow flag, borderline red flag at this point.

1349
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 9: This is about the time that I fully expected.

1350
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: A deal to be done, kind of mid January. It's

1351
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 4: what happened the last time they had a CBA. I

1352
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 4: was not concerned. If it goes another week or two,

1353
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: I would get really concerned about everything starting on time,

1354
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 4: Jeff and playing a full forty four game schedule.

1355
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, thanks as always for the time.

1356
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 5: We'll talk to you every Thursday and in between if

1357
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 5: anything big breaks.

1358
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: But great job, and I'm glad you've had.

1359
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 5: A the season and the year that you've had because

1360
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 5: it doesn't happen that way very often.

1361
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: Man, it's been fun.

1362
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, grateful for sure. I appreciate it.

1363
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: He's got questions, how about a game? They've got answers.

1364
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm more of a you know, a corn hole man myself.

1365
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: Sports music, movies, what cit high fashioned?

1366
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: Bet pants is so hot right now?

1367
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: And everything in between.

1368
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 6: Have you ever seeing a foot with four toes?

1369
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: Each time? To get a glimpse into the mind of

1370
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: Mark dyked.

1371
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 2: In, stop that you're scaring me each time?

1372
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: For I gotta know.

1373
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I want a good, clean fight. Let's get it off,

1374
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 3: all right, boys.

1375
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 10: We just had Scott Agneson talk to a little Indiana Fever, so.

1376
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: I thought it was appropriate to start there. Fever schedule

1377
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: came out yesterday.

1378
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 10: The regular season schedule starts Saturday, May ninth, hosting the

1379
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 10: Dallas Wings, but the current CBA negotiations still ongoing. Do

1380
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 10: you see all forty four games being played?

1381
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes, because I think were you talking

1382
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 3: about holding out and not playing and those women need

1383
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: that money perhaps more than the men's leagues do. I

1384
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 3: don't see some long holdout. I just don't see that.

1385
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: I think they're what the closer we get to the

1386
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 3: sea in, we'll see some momentum being built towards playing

1387
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: basketball and getting all forty four games in.

1388
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: I think you're probably right, James.

1389
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 5: I think a lot of it has to do with

1390
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 5: there will be pressure put on the league by these

1391
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 5: media partners that are all of a sudden investing millions

1392
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 5: and millions of dollars, and they don't want to start

1393
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 5: things off after they've made this promise of investing and

1394
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 5: spending money. I think the league will come around a

1395
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: little bit. There'll probably be a little concession made by

1396
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 5: the players, but I.

1397
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: Think economics at this point in time, what an own.

1398
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 5: Goal, Kevin, it would be if they can't find a

1399
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 5: way to start this particular season on time.

1400
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be horrific. I mean, it'd be malpractice

1401
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: beyond belief that all parties involved here. So yeah, I

1402
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: they believe our deadline spur action. I think back to

1403
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Saturday and Robert Kraft and that picture there. So

1404
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: I assume all forty four will be played and if

1405
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: it's not.

1406
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 10: Oh boy, well, speaking of Robert Kraft, let's go there, Kevin,

1407
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 10: Patriots under Robert Kraft said the league is pushing for

1408
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 10: an eighteen game regular season with a double buy liliminating

1409
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,959
Speaker 10: a preseason game and giving every team an international game.

1410
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 10: Is this all inevitable or is there a thing called

1411
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 10: too much NFL football?

1412
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: I think this is going to happen. I don't think

1413
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 3: it's a good thing because it's a very violence spurt.

1414
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 3: We see year in year out how brutal it can be.

1415
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 3: But I also think whenever I have to ask this

1416
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: question to players for like an anonymous poll for the athletic,

1417
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 3: the majority of them are like, well, if the money's

1418
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: a lot more, we'll do it. That's usually what it

1419
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: comes down to.

1420
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: I think the last thing you said is true.

1421
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 5: And we've seen this over and over and over with

1422
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 5: NFL owners in the NFL and their partners. They want

1423
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 5: more games, they want more international games, they want more exposure,

1424
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 5: they want more money. How long will it be before

1425
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 5: they open up an international network that just plays over

1426
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 5: in Europe?

1427
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: The games they're going to be held on foreign soil every.

1428
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: Week, I feel like they're trying to ship the Jaguars

1429
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: there as it is they bark overseas every year.

1430
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: Did you say two bye weeks double bye? So double by.

1431
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: You know, I've always thought if you won't, if you

1432
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: had to give up an international game once every four

1433
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: years one of your home games. I kind of like that,

1434
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that's that much of an

1435
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: ask in trying to grow the game, But yeah, eighteen,

1436
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, And I'm kind of the nerdy historian.

1437
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, what about these records? You know, I feel

1438
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: that way about the seventeen game schedule right now. It's like,

1439
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: you know, one actual game can influence a lot of

1440
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: that too.

1441
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was like a big debate with like

1442
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. You said, the sack record in seventeen games,

1443
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 3: but then people were like, well, we played less snaps

1444
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: than the other guys, but it gets convoluted. But I

1445
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: honestly think the players don't have to agree to this.

1446
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: They didn't have to agree to seventeen games, right, but

1447
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: they always do because money rules the world.

1448
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 5: And reminder too, way back in the day, it was

1449
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 5: a twelve game schedule, then it became for a long

1450
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 5: time a fourteen game schedule. Then it was a big

1451
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 5: deal when it became a sixteen game schedule, and now

1452
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 5: they've been playing seventeen games and like, are.

1453
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: We doing with Super Bowl and President's Day? Is that

1454
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: what we'd be looking at at that point? Now, I

1455
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: would like to see college football start things a little earlier,

1456
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: playoff wise. Next year you see the championship dates like

1457
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: January twenty fifth. The super Bowl next year is on

1458
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. I mean, like college January twenty fifth, It's

1459
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: like three weeks into the spring semester.

1460
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 3: It needs to be done the first week of the

1461
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 3: new year.

1462
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree, I'll start things Thanksgiving weekend.

1463
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 10: Let's stick to the NFL here. Let's stay a local.

1464
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 10: Do the Colts have any untouchables on their roster? And

1465
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 10: if so, who are they? If a team comes calling

1466
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 10: saying we want so and so, are you saying no, no, no,

1467
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 10: we need a first round pick or bust or are

1468
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 10: you shipping off anyone and everyone?

1469
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: I've always said no one would fall into that category,

1470
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: at least, you know, no one not named whatever if

1471
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: you had an unbelievable franchise quarterback. But I would just

1472
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: want to listen for intel. So if you think somebody

1473
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: on my roster you want, all right, tell me what

1474
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: that trade package is and then I just put that

1475
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: in the back of my brain and some way, somehow,

1476
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: maybe down the road, it's a good morsel information. But

1477
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: you know, as far as core guys, I mean, I

1478
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: think Sauce Gardner, I think Bernard Ryman giving his contract situation,

1479
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, Tyler Warrent, you know, some of those guys

1480
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: I would probably put into the It would take it

1481
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: a lot to get them off my plate.

1482
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm probably in the camp of you're not selling. So

1483
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 3: while you can listen, I mean, what good is trying

1484
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 3: to get a first round pick or something now when

1485
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 3: you already gave that up. And the only person I

1486
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 3: could think who could possibly land a first round pick

1487
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: and I probably still wouldn't give it up VO as a

1488
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 3: team is Quentin Nelson. But I mean, how much is

1489
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: the left guard are really worth? And if you're trying

1490
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: to win now, you can't get rid of that guy.

1491
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 3: So they've kind of binded themselves Mark in a way

1492
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 3: where they don't have much flexibility in that regard.

1493
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: I think you hit on it too there, James.

1494
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 5: Who are the first round worthy draft pick trade bait

1495
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 5: guys that the Colts have at this point in time.

1496
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 5: Quentin Nelson, Yes, but he's also getting towards the back

1497
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 5: half of his career. Their best player on d is

1498
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 5: a guy coming off a major neck injury and divorce Buckner.

1499
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 5: Maybe Sauce Gardner is the best player also coming off

1500
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 5: an injury. Johnthan Taylor running backs not at his age,

1501
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 5: is not going to get a first round draft pick.

1502
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Kevin, you're right too.

1503
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 5: You sit and you listen, you figure out what people

1504
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 5: think about your roster. But I don't think there you're

1505
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 5: in a real position to do a.

1506
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: Lot at this point in time.

1507
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 3: Not good.

1508
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 10: Okay, what would you do if you're the Pacers. We've

1509
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 10: talked about shutting down passcal Siakam trading some guys for

1510
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 10: pieces of the deadline. What are you doing of given

1511
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 10: that power to run the Pacers organization up until the deadline?

1512
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 5: Boy, at this point in time, I know it doesn't

1513
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 5: make me the most popular guy. I think you're gonna

1514
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 5: get Tyrese Haliburton back next year. You're gonna get a

1515
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 5: first round a top first round draft pick. I think again,

1516
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 5: like the Colts, you listen for offers for your guards,

1517
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 5: but I don't.

1518
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: You'd have to to me, you have to really sway

1519
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 1: me to get one.

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Speaker 5: I think they probably stay put and just deal with

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01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 5: what they have right now.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, what do you think?

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've obviously been a huge Mathering guy.

1524
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: I think it's all of a sudden. I see this

1525
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: discourse where like, boy matherens such a bad season. I'm like,

1526
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he's had two notable injuries, and you know,

1527
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: getting you're asking his role to change a whole whole lot.

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: But I also can live in reality and you can't

1529
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: cure all. With that top five pick, you can help

1530
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: out a lot. And if you look at the draft

1531
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: next year, what's up there? A bunch of high level

1532
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: wings is the thought. So do you trade matherin for

1533
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: potentially a center to.

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01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 3: Help you out?

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01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: And then do you go out there and with that

1536
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: top five pick you draft you know, potentially a really

1537
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: high level wing that on paper that probably makes the

1538
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: most sense. I would just be curious what you would

1539
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: a get for a Mathering. And really the guy that

1540
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: I think I've been most disappointed by the season is

1541
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: Jeris Walker.

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01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, i think I'm offloading one of the two.

1543
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 3: Whether it's been a nig mather and Jeris Walker, I

1544
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: don't think both can stay with this team in the

1545
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 3: future or really pass the trade deadline. So I'd make

1546
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 3: a move there, and I would not be against moving

1547
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 3: on from Matherin either. And I'm saying he isn't a

1548
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 3: good player and someone who can be a part of

1549
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 3: your future. But to Kevin's point, if you think this

1550
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: is gonna go downhill, which it has, and it stays

1551
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 3: that way, you get a top five pick, then I

1552
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: think you can appease some other roster holes that you

1553
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 3: might have if you move on from him.

1554
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 10: Oscar nominations out today, Sinners leads the way with a

1555
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 10: record breaking sixteen nominations, including Best Picture and Best Actor.

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 2: In Michael B.

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01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 10: Jordan, what was the best movie you saw in the

1558
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 10: past year.

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: I'll go Ciners, and second, I'll probably go Superman. I

1560
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 3: thought Superman was like a good, wholesome superhero movie. I'm

1561
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: used to like the Marvel movies where it's like really

1562
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 3: deep in world issues and stuff like that. I thought

1563
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 3: Superman was solid.

1564
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 2: Evan, I thought you're gonna say super Bad.

1565
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no.

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01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: I will go with Zutopia too, Mark, that.

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: Was actually really good.

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: I enjoyed. I say that in all seriousness. Yeah, that

1569
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: was good. Like, right now, I try to push that.

1570
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: I used to try to push the kids, like in

1571
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: different directions, and now I'm like, you guys want to

1572
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: running back with Zutopia and they're like yeah, and I'm like,

1573
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 2: let's go.

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01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 10: That was a good one. We saw that in theaters.

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01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 10: That was really good. Ashley and I watched Sinners finally

1577
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 10: last night.

1578
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: It was awesome.

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 10: I would highly recommend that, and then one Battle after another,

1580
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 10: the Leonardo DiCaprio one that's also for Best Picture, that

1581
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 10: was outstanding.

1582
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 2: I would recommend all three of those Sunday night for Oscars.

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: Is that is that what you said?

1584
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 10: Not Sunday? No, the nominations just came out. I don't

1585
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 10: think it's still mid to late February. It was like,

1586
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 10: I feel like we just had an award show that

1587
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 10: was Golden Globes.

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: If you got one, you you talked about it a lot.

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01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 5: In fact, you got me to go check it out

1590
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 5: because you liked it, and you said you didn't want

1591
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 5: your your parents or your grandma to know that.

1592
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: You'd seen it.

1593
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 5: But Sinners, I like any movie that starts off with

1594
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 5: guys are investing money that they've essentially sconded from the

1595
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,919
Speaker 5: from the crime mob family, the Syndicate.

1596
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: That's a good starting point for me.

1597
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 3: Well, you know, my hot take about movies and shows

1598
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 3: is that it always gets better when somebody dies. If

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01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: you're watching the show and it's supposed to be a

1600
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 3: drama or something and it's taking too long to get

1601
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: to the point, you need somebody to keel over, and

1602
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 3: then I'll up the any a little bit.

1603
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 1: But that movie had a couple of twists and turns,

1604
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,879
Speaker 1: and not a lot of movies.

1605
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 5: I think we've all seen so many movies it's hard

1606
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 5: for twist and turns to kind of get to you anymore.

1607
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: Sinners got to me. That was a good movie, man Mark,

1608
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: how about you.

1609
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: Utopia, Sinners, Utopia two and one Battle after Another.

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01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that one yet.

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Speaker 10: Excellence on HBO Max Outstanding