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Hello, Robert, and you know him as the 36 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: owner and operator of Indiepolitics dot org a Dula keep Shabaz. 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: Hello, it is a beautiful day of the neighborhood, my friend, 38 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: A beautiful day. 39 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: All right, Let's see, Okay, where do we start, well, 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: you know, like it's all redistricting now, and I'll start 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: with you. You know, it's bad when you and I 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: are firmly in agreement on something. 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: And we both think it's a bad idea. 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is I mean, this proposal to rig these 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: maps further in favor of the Republicans. For no, at 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: least Texas can say, we've had a bunch of people 47 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: move in. There's no viable reason to change these maps 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: that they just declared fair a couple of years ago, 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: other than we want to use the electoral process to 50 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: score more victories in the US House for the Republicans. 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: And it is it will be a pyrhic victory at best, 52 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 4: because let's say you get more. First of all, Republicans 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: are already seven to two in the Congression delegation. 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: Cook, I think that's important Indiana. Basically, let's say if 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: you go off the last election is basically fifty eight percent. 56 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: Sixty forty. 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll even go higher, right, Okay, So by that center, 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: then it should be six to three, and it should 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: be sixty percent in the House and sixty percent in 60 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: the sent Instead, it's seven to two in the US House. 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: It's seventy percent in the Indiana House and it's eighty 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: percent in the Senate. So they've already drawn the maps, 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: like they people. Well, illinoy this, and illinoy that we 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: have already done this too. 65 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: First of all, for and being from both places. I 66 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: always thought it was interesting when when my when my 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: Indiana brothers and sister trying to use Ellinois as an example, 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: use this an example for what not to do. So 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: now Eloy is brilliant and genius because they redistricted and 70 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: drew the maps. So democrats have a permanent advantage. So 71 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: now you want to do the same thing. Yeah, okay. 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: This also means that you want to, you know, get 73 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: rid of charter schools and vouchers because Illinois does that, 74 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: and also want to get rid of right to work 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: because Ellinoid does that too. I love that. I love 76 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: the sort of the selected, the select division and all this. 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 5: But we're already doing this. That's my point, Jim. 78 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: We act like we're some moral high horse holy rollers here, 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: and it's like, no, you guys have already, like every 80 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: other state in the Union, drawn the maps to your favor, 81 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: to the most upwarding extent that it could still pass 82 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: some sort of legal muster. 83 00:03:59,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: You know. 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: It's if I was just thinking about this on the 85 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: way down today in Illinois. In Illinois, they have districts 86 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: for Supreme Court justices, and what they do is they 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: crowd them all around Chicago, and then they have all 88 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: of south of Illinois for one or two Republicans, and 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: you kind of wonder where we're going with this. But 90 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: this is something that is it's a bridge too far. 91 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: It's it's going to win when the governor calls them 92 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: the special session, and I don't think there's any doubt 93 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: about that. Now, it's going to cost money. It's going 94 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: to take time, yeah. 95 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: Real quick. He's trying to say one hundred and fifty thousand. 96 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 5: There's no way, there's seventy eight. 97 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: He has a number, yeah, because he was trying to 98 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: say hundred fifty the other day. There's no way they're 99 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: doing that one hundred fifty thousand dollars, well. 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: Two seventy eight. I don't know where they get that figure, 101 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: because they it's gonna take it's going to take some time, 102 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: probably twelve business of that figure. 103 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 4: Just pull it out of your backside. No, if you 104 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: if you a sort of the because there's in session 105 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: per DM, there's out of session per D him too, 106 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: because I don't know how long it's gonna last exactly. 107 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: But but the guests mean is if it takes a 108 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: week to get all this done. And by the way, 109 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: I also got committee hearings, and yeah, that's. 110 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 5: A pretty odd number. Good on you. 111 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: If it ends up being two seventy eight, you're gonna 112 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: win some sort of the first ever prize. 113 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: What they're gonna do, just think about staff time. What 114 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: they're gonna do is they're gonna try to prepare all 115 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: the all the maps, all the bill, the bill, if 116 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: you will, and and then bring the legislature in have hearings. Uh, 117 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: the maps have to sit on the desk for a 118 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: certain amount of time and then and then it's got 119 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: to go through the Senate or it's got to go 120 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: through the House, and then it's gotta it's got to 121 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: go to the Senate and then go through hearings. And 122 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: there's just a lot of time involved here. And then 123 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 2: you've got lawsuits yeps. 124 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: So as soon as the governor signs that, trust me, 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: someone's gonna press sin on odyssey. 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, one of your friends is gonna be getting rich. 127 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: Yes, but you know, several of my friends gonna be 128 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: getting rich with this because because I gotta remember, this 129 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: isn't just Indianapolis. I mean, you've got voting rights legislation 130 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: come in here, You've got Common Cause coming here, got 131 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: legal women voters come here. Basically anybody and everybody who 132 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: complained about the last round of maps, which by the way, 133 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: we're about as good as you could possibly get, are 134 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: going to be even more energetic, more more energized to 135 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: deal with this. 136 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: But what data and what districts are going to be impacted? 137 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: So this is and this there is the thing itself, 138 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: and and we I think, right, well, the thing itself 139 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: is the is they're redrawing these maps, and that's bad enough, 140 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: and I think we're all in agreement that that's bad. 141 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 5: But then there's the. 142 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: Just shady, dishonest behavior from some of these people, including 143 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: Craig Haggard, who came on our Kennel and Casey program 144 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: just last. 145 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: Week and I listened to it, and he was great. 146 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: He was adamant, like, hey, the maps are fine. Greg Stirwald, 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: who drew them, did a wonderful job. It's very fair. 148 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: Indiana's good, Okay, it's like cool, some guy who's saying 149 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: the truth. He's saying what he thinks. He may not 150 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: win the vote in the end, but at least they're saying. 151 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: In an interview, you said, well, you know, if you've 152 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: become members, we're going to call you out on we 153 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: could He said, call me out. 154 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so buddy boy, because because he within one 155 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: week has completely flipped, acting as though he never said this. 156 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: And what I think is the grossest part of all 157 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: of this is Craig Haggard is being bullied by Charlie 158 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: Kirk in Arizona. 159 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 5: That's pathetic. 160 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there there are a lot of bullies out there 161 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: and that's just one of them. And it's just amazing 162 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: how just kind of the the swear of the breeze 163 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden we've got we've got a 164 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: special session on the front porch. 165 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: I mean that that is a weird abdul that like 166 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk, who wouldn't be able to find Zionsville on 167 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: a map other than being born in Illinois, which is 168 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: a neighboring state. He has no ties I'm aware of 169 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: to this state that he can just put out some 170 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: sort of tweet and these lawmakers just fold. What do 171 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: they think Charlie Kirk is going to be recruiting candidates 172 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: in Reelsville or Kendallville to run for I mean. 173 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 5: Get out of here. See. 174 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: And and if if you did recruit a candidate, first of all, 175 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: you gotta have money. 176 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: Number one, what's he gonna be putting millions behind each 177 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: one of these people? 178 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: And then and then number two, what are what is 179 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: the challenge you're going to run on? 180 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 181 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: What property taxes? No? No, health care, no education. But 182 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: you know we're gonna complain about these maps? Okay, what 183 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: was wrong with like maps? You can't even get past 184 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: the maps? 185 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: Hard that's not even a campaign item ever. 186 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 5: No, the average versus is a care No. 187 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: And they don't know. I mean people are still getting 188 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: their kids back in school and they're still coming back 189 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: from vacation. They have no idea what's going on. 190 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: Right And by the way, people have October proper tax 191 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: bills coming out relatively soon. 192 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 5: Here and they're not focused on that at all. 193 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: No, no, no, So I just got my proper text bill, 194 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 4: my assessment went through the room. Try to figure I'm 195 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: going to pay this stuff. And you're talking about maps. 196 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: Well, you and I and again you know sad when 197 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: you and I are in a correct plate agreement, you 198 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: would you get you actually gave me credit for something 199 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: which rives well. 200 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 5: I should go on. 201 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: When you are as a state legislator or the governor 202 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: saying we will not call a special session to help 203 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 3: you with the SIGNATORI is you in the state, and 204 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: then you'll call a special session to rig the elections 205 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: in favor of your political party. Just tell people how 206 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: much you hate them. Just straight come out and say 207 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: we hate you. 208 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: You know it's I won't I won't say hate. I 209 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: will say that your priorities are not our priorities. Our 210 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 4: priorities are taking care of Charlie Kirk out of Arizona. 211 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: You wouldn't believe the the texts that I'm getting from 212 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: the establishment that that r imk is right, Rob Kendall 213 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: is right. These are the people that bug me about 214 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: once a month about why I'm giving you all the 215 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: credibility of being on your show, and I'm getting these 216 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm getting these this input about they can't you know, 217 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: because the establishment, the quiet establishment, can't believe we're doing this. Well. 218 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 4: That's because even a broken clock is right twice day. 219 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: Well look everybody, Look, if I'm if everybody likes me, 220 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: I'm not doing my job. If everybody hates me, then 221 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: I am doing my job right because we are insistent 222 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: and consistency says that if you're going to look at 223 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: the people of Indiana as they did a couple of 224 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: years ago and say these maps are fair, Okay, reasonable 225 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: people can disagree, but you the legislature, have made that 226 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: definitive statement that, to the best of our ability, these 227 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: maps are fair. Then you don't get to come back 228 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: a couple of years later and go, well, we need 229 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: to redraw these maps again. 230 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: Well yeah, with no data. I mean, where where is 231 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: the data they're going to take? And I think we 232 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: need to talk a little bit about these congressional districts 233 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: because you can't take Frank Mrvan's first district, Frank Mrvan, 234 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: Junior Member of Congress Democrat. You can't take that and 235 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: massage it if you will, terrible word, but you did 236 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: change it and not have an impact. Jim Barrett in 237 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: the Rudyakam or Rudyokam who represents the South Bend area, 238 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: you can't change it without you know, water finds its level. 239 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: And by the way, also it also impacts the fifth 240 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: district and the third district right right, and so and 241 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: actual those Democrat voters have to go somewhere, and I 242 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised be impacted the sixth and the eighth 243 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: of the ninth. 244 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: Right, It's all about It's all about balance and and 245 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: and you also have those factors out there that that 246 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: a court's going to look at. 247 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: And the thing is in the first district through through 248 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: natural demographic changes, the first direct is becoming more Republican 249 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: every every other day. So why even mess with it. 250 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about my lovely, late, lovely mother lately when 251 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: some things happening to a world and I wasn't her favorite, 252 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: saying I hate you, but you can't even. 253 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: Do wrong, right, Well, this this is the question. 254 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: So like Congress dot Gov has this if be able 255 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: to do a deep dive for it. But just to 256 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 3: kind of simplify this, like, there are things that have 257 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: to be considered when you're drawing them these maps, right, 258 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 3: equal population is one of them, the voting rights and 259 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: racial action, racial fairness. You gotta have the compactness, contiguity, 260 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: and the the job of these maps. 261 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: And by the way, also maps usually done at the 262 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: after the twenty twenty year that zero sens in the 263 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 4: one year. 264 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so like when you think about compactness, if 265 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: you're going to stretch my district, which is the fourth 266 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: up towards the region to try to help up there, 267 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: Now I'm what am I up in Portage? Like, like, 268 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: where what do I have in common with the region? 269 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 5: Nothing? There's nothing that there. 270 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: They don't think you have a combination both from Indiana exactly. 271 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 5: And you know. 272 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: In the past what is what is not talked about 273 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: is most of the time the map makers and that's 274 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: a terrible term, but the people that draw the maps, 275 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: the staff that does all the research, and they have 276 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: all the software for this and everything. But they also 277 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: try to keep the members of Congress in their current district. 278 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: And so that's going to be really interesting to see 279 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: how they can they can accommodate the actual incumbents. 280 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: Now, this is what I can't figure out because the 281 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: the theory is now they're not just going to go 282 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: for the first, They're going to try to go for both, 283 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: which is seven, which is Carson and Marion County. You 284 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: just had to draw Carson's disc district more safe because 285 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: Sparts is such a goof that you had to make 286 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: her district more Republicans so she didn't blow it and lose. 287 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: So if you undo. 288 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: That, like, how are you going to do draw car 289 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: the amount of Republicans you would have to put into 290 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: Carson's district to make that competitive. 291 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 4: You have to go well, actually, actually no, Here's what 292 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: you do is you do what you do with the 293 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 4: one map, and you basically put the seven disc like 294 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: a spinning wheel. Like this picture of the pie is 295 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: the fourth. The sex of the pie is the fifth. 296 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: The sex and pie is this, sex by this, pecks 297 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: by this, so it's a pie. Everybody kind of yeah, 298 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: everybody cuts a piece. 299 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: Of the pie. 300 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: But eventually, within because of the irresponsible, out of control growth, 301 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: eventually within the next six to ten years, all these 302 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: other districts are going to become blue. 303 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: Was see. But here's the actually when you have to 304 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: wait that far, because here's what's going to happen if 305 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: you start messing around with the seventh Congressional district. First 306 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: of all, you got voting right stuff out because you 307 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 4: only got one African American. Let me ask you that 308 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: real quick, because that's where it's gonna go to. 309 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 3: This is the one that cannot figure out how they're 310 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: going to get around, which is the Voting Rights Act. 311 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: And you got a factor in racial fairness, so you 312 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: can't dilute the voting power of minorities. I don't like, 313 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't understand how they're possibly especially you've got basically 314 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: a six to three court Roberts I think is regularly 315 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: ruled in favor on like on some of these other 316 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: maps from these other states. With the liberals. I think 317 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: Cavanaugh would, I think Barrett would like. I think I 318 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: think Clarence Thomas would act. Well, that's what I understand 319 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: is how they're going to screw with the seventh and 320 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: not violate that you can't. 321 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and. 322 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: You got the legal issues out there, but also you've 323 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: got the political issues because once word gets out, mate, 324 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: I would argue the words out right now from our conversation, 325 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: because you know, people listen to us on all sides 326 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: of the political spectrum. It's like, hey, those are you? 327 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: Even Republicans want to go after Andre Carson and get 328 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: rid of Andre Carson and make the district U break 329 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: it up. The h I keep using this term over 330 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: and over and over again. The crack ends with an 331 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: s that you will release because you've got all these 332 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: people who just don't really get vote, don't really get involved, 333 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: kind of say the truth. And not only will it 334 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: impact the seventh aggression district has impact, it has the 335 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: ability to impact Stayed wide because forty five fifty thousand, 336 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: Because in the end, it really is if you look 337 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: at the grand scheme of thing used what like thirty 338 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: forty thousand votes give or take Stayed wide, And if 339 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: they do this in two thousand and six, it's. 340 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: Why you guys folded on riff Ray. You didn't want 341 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: to wake a bunch of people up who otherwise weren't 342 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: going to participate. 343 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: Well, we did wake a lot of people up, and 344 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: that's why you. 345 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: And think about this. Could you, guys, what to do 346 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: for Diego Morales? 347 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: Well, this is what I just say was because die 348 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: I want to read his quote in a second. But 349 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: the big winner here, if indeed he decides to run, 350 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: will in it being bow By. Because if bo Bye 351 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: evan By's son decides to run for secretary serious, which 352 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: it certainly looks like he's running for something based on 353 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: the fact that he's and I think it's something bigger 354 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: than Congress based on that he's out there doing the 355 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: speaker circuit. Now, Diego Morales is already seen by a 356 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: large person of the population as a grifter onun ethical, corrupt, 357 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: and now you're going to throw this on top of 358 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: it motivate a bunch of people who otherwise wouldn't participate 359 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: in a midterm. He's the big loser on all that. 360 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: And I want to say, Diego came out in favor of. 361 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: He He would you like me to read you to 362 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: the please quote are us here? It's of course it's 363 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: always some bull crap with him, But I'll just read 364 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: you the final part of it. Maybe they'll subject the 365 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: prisoners at Guantanamo to the whole thing. The trust includes 366 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: the responsibility to draw congressional maps that reflect the will 367 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: of the voters. No, it doesn't maps that will send 368 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: a delegation to Washington committed to And this isn't all 369 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: in bold advancing President Trump's America First agenda. That is 370 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: so offensive from the guy who's in charge of elections 371 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: to say that the job of the map makers is 372 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: to promote Donald Trump's agenda. You are in charge of 373 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: enforcing election laws not just of this state, but of 374 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 3: this country. And for him to say that that is gross. 375 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: Actually it's legally damning because once again, if the maps 376 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: were drawn, the lawsuits come come out. One of the 377 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: first things in like, Ah, there's a statement that was 378 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 4: made by the Secretary of State, the guy who says 379 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: he's for free and fair elections. It's basically saying that 380 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: is to help the agenda of Donald Trump. 381 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: Well, you know, looking at the political end as well 382 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: as the underbelly of so many people, so many state 383 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: representatives and so many state senators, I can tell you 384 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: don't want this to happen. 385 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 5: So what do they say something? 386 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 4: Actually, actually I was thinking about that actually while Jim 387 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: was talking, and I think it's kind of talking out 388 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: of both sides of your ass, is what it is. 389 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: Because on the one hand, you're saying, you know what, 390 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 4: I don't believe this. I don't think we should do it. 391 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 4: But you know, actually, Todd Young had the best line. 392 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: He said, no, I trust the will the legistature to 393 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 4: do the right thing. 394 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: You can always count on Todd Young to not have 395 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: an opinion on anything controversy. 396 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: But but this, but this one is actually really this is 397 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: really threatened the needle because I'm not coming out against 398 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, not come that against a disctate. He said, 399 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: I expected the legislature. 400 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: But what is that? What is the right thing? Well, 401 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: the right thing is to do nothing. Well exactly, so 402 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 3: why didn't he say that? 403 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: But but this is this is also a governor Braun 404 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: who you know, you you would think that would be 405 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: forceful in calling them back into session, but he wants 406 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: them to have a conversation and then if they agreed, 407 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: then he would call them back into session and in 408 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: special session and and so you know it's a hotpitato 409 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: right now. 410 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Bron's playing the difference. It's like, well, I'm 411 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 4: not saying I'm in favor of it, but if they 412 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: decide to do it, then we'll have to go forward. 413 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: Like dude, come on, bro, help help me out here. 414 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall, build a Jabaz. Jim Merritt's program at State 415 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: House happenings are weekly. Looking what's going on with that? Say, NEDA, 416 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: Politics and Government. Yeah, this is the problem. Everybody's just 417 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: afraid of Donald Trump. Everybody's afraid. I mean the fact 418 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: that all of the Congress people within like six hours 419 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: of each other, after saying nothing for weeks, and then 420 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: within six hours, all the Republican Congress people issued statements 421 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: in favor like they were going one after another. Okay, 422 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: they're all in cahoots together. You've got again. I just 423 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: come back to. If you're Craig Haggard, who's a state 424 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: rep from what it's Morgan Johnson Hendricks County. He's got 425 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: one of them finally drawn districts, right, how do you 426 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: possibly look people in the eye going forward? And how 427 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 3: do you get past Because at least Jim Baird was 428 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: just like, yeah, I'm for it if you're Haggard. If 429 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: you're Baird, you running his Haggard. You just played this 430 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: guy lied. You can't trust him. 431 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 5: Well. 432 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: First of all, Craig Haggard left the legislature to go 433 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: to Israel when they're in session. 434 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to be talking about that a whole bunch. 435 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: So because things that get forgotten, you remembered real quick when. 436 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 5: You lie to me. 437 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, to take a vacation to Israel in the middle 438 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: of a budget session when you have sixty five thousand 439 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: constituents relying on you to make that vote, to voice 440 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: their interests uh. Then to run against a war hero 441 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: and Congressman Baird, and then this it just really it 442 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: just poses the question of. 443 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: What the hell are you people thinking? Yes, now, look, 444 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: Baird's a Baird. Would Baird would drop kick himself in 445 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 3: his own in his own face if Trump ordered him 446 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: to do it. So let's not act like he's some 447 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: independent voice of reason out here. I was gonna say 448 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: something else, but this is our family, is not Kendall 449 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: and base Uh. Like, it's just it's all awful. It's 450 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: all awful, and the voters are the what and what 451 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: blows my mind? And you guys got to help me 452 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: with this. People who have always seemed like rockside, I 453 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 3: stand on the constitution, I stand on the rule of 454 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: law are twisting themselves into these mental pretzels to support this, 455 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: and it's like they're just doing the things that you 456 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: lament the Democrats doing. So now you've lost any ability 457 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: to complain or anything else, because when you have an 458 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: opportunity to do it, you're doing the same thing. You're 459 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: for the same thing. 460 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: So well, back when, back when I was a kid, 461 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: Jimmy might remember this, there were these toys that you 462 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 4: could basically take the arms and stretch them and you 463 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: like with wrestlers. 464 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: Like the LN figure. 465 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is what Republicans are doing right now, 466 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: who are like, hey, I'm not in favor of this, 467 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 4: but I got to figure out a way to say, well, 468 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 4: the consoition doesn't allow us like a guy's this, this 469 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: is not going to end. Well, let's stop the madness. 470 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: Now Here's what I can't figure out, Jim If clearly, 471 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 3: because these lawmakers are basically saying it that there's nobody 472 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: beating down your door begging you to do it, then 473 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: what are you afraid of just say we're done. Hey, 474 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk, nobody told me they're for it. Bugger off? 475 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 5: Like what what? 476 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: Like? 477 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 5: What? 478 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: Why are they so afraid to just say my district 479 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: doesn't care about this, I'm not doing this. 480 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 5: Thank you, have a nice day. 481 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: When all this started bubbling up, if I were still 482 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: a caucus, sure, and I would say to all of 483 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: our members, do not speak on this whatsoever, and and 484 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: and and you don't. You don't have a voice on 485 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: if we're gonna go special session or not. Leave that 486 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: up to the governor and then we make a decision. Uh, 487 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: you have to go to session and it's a lot 488 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: like any other special session that you you you gabble 489 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: in and then you gabble out and they and they 490 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: call you again because you've got to stand for something. 491 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: And uh, it's it's it's just a it's really a 492 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: show of the times where people it's back to your TikTok. 493 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: It's back to TikTok candidates where it's all about the 494 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: it's all about the shot, it's all about the idea 495 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: of politics of the moment. And you're creating a precedent 496 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: here of of you could you know, Democrats if they 497 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: if they get into into power again, immediately they will 498 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: redraw because nothing stopping them from doing it. 499 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: One of the most incredible journeys I've witnessed seeing people 500 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: with intellectual and developmental disabilities, including autism, get the care 501 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: they deserve. It's life changing. A not for profits started 502 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: by Families for Families, DeMar helps thousands in Central Indiana 503 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: live more joyful and independent lives. 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But they also offer catering for small 511 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: and medium sized weddings and events, giving you the opportunity 512 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: to bring down home feel and charm to your special day. 513 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: Reservations preferred, but not required. The Honeysuckle Hill bestro In 514 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: Cottages open five to eight Friday and Saturday and Sunday, 515 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: featuring their incredible breakfast buffet from eleven to two. More 516 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: information called eight one two four four three, three zero 517 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: zero three. State House Happenings also wants to thank our 518 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: fine friends at Freedom Foods Indiana. Farmer Ryan Schleiman and 519 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: the folks at Freedom Foods Indiana have been delivering fresh 520 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: fruits and vegetables right to people's doors for years, and 521 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 3: Freedom Foods Indiana is a big supporter of State House Happenings. Now, 522 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: Freedom Foods Indiana has some big things coming. We can't 523 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: wait to tell you all about it in the near future. 524 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: Right now, though, we just want to say thanks to 525 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: our friends at Freedom Foods Indiana for supporting State House Happenings. 526 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall, Bill Kem Shabaz jam Merit the program of 527 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: State House Happenings, your weekly look at what's going on 528 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: with Indiana politics and government. A couple of minutes left here. 529 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 5: Wow, that was quick. Well he remember when we're like 530 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 5: every year, we're like, what are we going to do 531 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 5: all summer long? 532 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Benjamin, pendulum, pendulum really swings at times. 533 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: Well, this is the pit, this is well, this is 534 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: the point these guys after a disastrous session where they 535 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: totally screwed up property taxes, by the way, taxes, there's 536 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: a big rumor that if they open this special session, 537 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: if they're going to repeal the tax cut in the 538 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: property tax bill that was the big one of those 539 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 3: robo polls out there was asking about that. And they 540 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: screwed up property taxes. They couldn't pay their bills without 541 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: raising taxes by a billion dollars. They got this disastrous 542 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: SMR thing that is going to raise utility bills. 543 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 5: And you're not focused on fixing any of that. 544 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: You're focused on rigging the election system because you guys 545 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: aren't governing well in Congress. So we got to rig 546 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: the map to try to get a couple more seats 547 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: across this custal. 548 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: Also, they tried to figure out, and they did, how 549 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: to pay medicaid, and so they raised taxes. 550 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 4: Right and by the way, throw this in there too. 551 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: All this for a guy who say, is going to 552 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: threaten to primary challenge you with no primary? With what primary? 553 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: Richard Bagby, who's taken on Ronaltein, really this well, that's 554 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: the point. 555 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk doesn't have the time, the money, or, let's 556 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: face it, the interest to actually follow through on primarying 557 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: fifty sixty seventy Republicans. Right, It's like Fred Krueger, if 558 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: I just ignore you, this is what I've never figured 559 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: out what these politicians. Now, you ain't gonna be able 560 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: to ignore me because I got the OCD and I'm 561 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: a pretty neurotic guy, and I got nine months and 562 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm here every. 563 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 4: Day exactly and see, and that is the and and 564 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: that my friend once again well paying Rob Kendall compliments 565 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 4: to oh my god, thank you, thank you yeah, Because 566 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: this is how messed up stuff is. I want to 567 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: use another word other than messed up. The fact that 568 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: we are here every day you on the radio, me 569 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: and these people's faces every day to remind them and 570 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: the voters of what silliness these guys did with Charlie Kirk. Okay, well, 571 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: I'm all off to the next next thing now right. 572 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 2: Well, also, Donald Trump is gonna be gone, right, and 573 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: you know it's probably by twenty This is. 574 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: So short sighted because of the out of control growth 575 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: in these suburbs. If you draw the seventh into these 576 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 3: suburbs within like I said, the next six to ten years, 577 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: you were right, it could be even faster. I mean, 578 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: Sparks was teetering on the brink to begin with. In 579 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: the fifth you're gonna see a bunch of these districts, 580 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: I think, go democrats. 581 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: Well take it from me. From nineteen ninety all the 582 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: way to twenty two twenty one, Northeastern Indianapolis has changed, 583 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: Hancock County is changing, and Fishers they're all purple. Now 584 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: there are Democrats in Noblesville, there are Democrats in Carmel 585 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: and Zionceville. And it's gonna happen. And this may be 586 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: the one film sit. 587 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: It is two thousand and eight all over it. Yeah, 588 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: good good. I hope these people lose everything. I probably 589 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: won't get that lucky. But the big one, the big 590 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: one is if the Democrats can get bo Bai, who 591 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: would be about the best candidate they could run. I 592 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: think he could beat Diego Morales and that hopefully would 593 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 3: open some eyes from these Republicans about the job they're 594 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: doing and even there is a limit to people in 595 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: this state that they will tolerate. Jim Merritt, I do 596 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: look give Jabaz, thank. 597 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: You, thank you. 598 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Jim Dalton, President and CEO of Daymar. Daymar 599 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: is a critical resource for thousands of people in Central Indiana, 600 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: and it takes people like you to give them hope. 601 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: With over thirteen hundred employees and hundreds of volunteers, Daymar 602 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: is always looking for people to come aboard. Whether it's 603 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: a career or simply donating your time. There's a place 604 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: for you here at Daymar. Learn more about our mission 605 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: at daymark dot org. 606 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: At the Honeysuckle Hill bestro in cottage located off I 607 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 3: seventy in Beautiful Brazil, less than an hour from downtown Indianapolis. 608 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: Their specialty is hoos, your comfort food like Grandma used 609 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 3: to make, and just like Grandma's house. Their goal is 610 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 3: for you to leave more at peace than when you 611 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: came in. The Honeysuckle Hill bestro In Cottage feature some 612 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: of the best made from scratch food in the state, 613 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: and their chicken and pork is raised right here in Indiana. 614 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: The Honeysuckle Hill bestro In Cottage is open five to 615 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: eight Friday and Saturday and Sunday featuring their incredible breakfast 616 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: buffet from eleven to two. For more information call eight 617 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: one two four four three three zero zero three. State 618 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: House Happenings also wants to thank our fine friends at 619 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 3: Freedom Foods Indiana. Farmer Ryan Schliman and the folks at 620 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: Freedom Foods Indiana have been delivering fresh fruits and vegetables 621 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: right to people's doors for years and Freedom Foods Indiana 622 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: is a big supporter of State House Happenings. Now Freedom 623 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: Food's Indiana it has some big things coming. We can't 624 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: wait to tell you all about it in the near future. 625 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: Right now, though, we just want to say thanks to 626 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: our friends at Freedom Foods Indiana for supporting State House Happenings. 627 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall Dull gives your bas Jim Merritt, the program 628 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: is State House Happening. 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