WEBVTT - Episode 4685: Tony Katz Today Hour 1 - 08/21/26 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:10.600 Live from val hartbind and the Crossroads of America. Joe Today, 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.720 It's Tony Katz Today, It's nuts some Tony Katz. Let 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:21.000 the radio show begin. Let's go to work. So what 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:28.000 we have here is the story of he said, he said, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.240 and he said he said? Is Donald Trump and JD. Vance? 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.040 Now nothing about to engage in is going to surprise 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.559 you at all. We are talking about two men with 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.080 two very different views of what the job is. What 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.279 are we talking about. We're talking about Iran and in 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.479 the job. It's a conversation, maybe to a larger extent, 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.240 of how they view America and America's role in the 0:00:55.240 --> 0:01:00.760 world and their job regarding America. I would say that 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.920 if you were to ask both of them, pull both them, 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.120 the President and the Vice president of the United States, 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.800 they would say that American safety and security is job 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:13.920 number one. President Trump understands that sometimes American safety and 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:18.679 security means handling it where it is. JD. Vance believes 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.640 that American safety and security comes from only thinking about 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.959 America and not paying attention to the rest. We don't 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:29.360 have to get involved. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.440 to be here, Good to be with you. Find everything 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.560 I do over at tonycats dot Com, live streaming YouTube 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.920 and rumble tony Kats. You have Twitter which is known 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.920 as x tony Kats and Facebook, Tony CAATs Radio. This 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:46.160 was the story over there at ABC News. Trump contradicts 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:54.440 Vance says nukes, not oil prices number one priority in Iran. Now, 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.280 for those of us who have been paying attention, man, 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.200 you could have called that one one hundred billion miles away. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:11.800 There is a difference between these two men. There is 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:17.280 a difference in philosophy. And I'll start where I start, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.680 which is I don't think jd Vance is a dumb guy, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.840 not at all. Jd Vance approved that he was a 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.400 capable guy in terms of when he broke through. And 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.160 he said to Martha Raddits, do you hear yourself? It 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.880 was during the it was during the run up, and 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.079 he was still the candidate. He is a senator from Ohio. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.320 And Martha Raddits of ABC News is talking about trend 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.240 de Aragua gang members who had taken over apartment complexes 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.880 in Colorado, and she said it's only a handful of 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:54.720 apartment complexes and jd Vance said, only a handful. Do 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.720 you hear yourself, Martha, and his voice kind of cracked 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.720 a little bit because it was the incredulousness. It was, okay, 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.880 all right, he's he's got this, he's he's handling this. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:10.560 There's no problem. And then we went to the Oval 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:16.640 Office and Ukraine and Vladimir Zelenski. You see, everybody else 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.520 wants to remember it for the dust up, remember it 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.239 for Trump putting Zelenski in his place. Well, Trump was right, 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.639 I say that now just like I said it then. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:32.360 But everyone forgets how it happened. How it happened is 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.800 that jd Vance got way over his skis, and when 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.360 the talking was done, jd Vance, sitting on the side couch, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.160 decided to jump in because he was going to talk 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.280 about how great the president is doing and say that 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:53.080 they were finally going to use diplomacy. Use diplomacy for what? 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:59.520 For thwarting Russian aggression? Is that right, you're gonna use diplomacy. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.040 This was a fantasy of jd Vans of the vice president, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:10.160 a fantasy. And Vladimir Zelenski, I don't necessarily think it 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.320 was a great guy. I mean, he could have run 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:17.599 away when Ukraine was attacked and he didn't. There's got 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.719 to be some level of respect for that. He did 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.600 a poor job of asking for help. He just assumed 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.680 it would all come so quickly, and he acted impestuous, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:33.400 and he acted spoiled, and I deserve this. That's not 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.719 the way the world works. It's not the way anything works. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.080 That's leftism, horsecrap, and nobody wanted to be around it 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.960 or be a part of it. Even Joe Biden had 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.400 to say to him sometimes, would you please be easier 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.360 to deal with I'm giving you billions of dollars and 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:51.520 all this weaponry. Could you be a little nice? And 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.800 now that part was always legit, and that's what jade 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.080 Vans tried to pivot to when it was already too late, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.600 because jd Vance said we're going to use diplomacy, and 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.320 there's Vladimir's Lenski saying, oh, blah blah. We signed this 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.039 with Russia. They didn't listen to it. We signed that 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:10.719 with Russia, they didn't listen to it. We agreed to 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:12.480 this with Russia, they didn't listen to it. We'd wanted 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.520 to do that with Russia. They didn't listen to it. 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.479 What diplomacy are you talking about. We've tried all the 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:25.360 diplomacy under the sun. What diplomacy are you getting at? 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.840 And that's when JD. Vance, the Vice President, said, I 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.880 don't appreciate you coming to the Oval Office and arguing 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:38.200 with us. Have you at least said thank you? And 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:44.400 that's when Vladimir's Lensky, not perfect with the English, started 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.640 talking about your problem is you don't have a Russia 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.440 to deal with. You've got a nice, big ocean. But 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.800 soon you will see. And that's when President Trump stepped 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.240 and said, don't tell us, we'll see. Don't tell we 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.719 have the cards. We have all the cards, the beautiful cards, 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.680 they playing cards, my faces and all the cards. I'm 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.039 the king and the Queen of the jack Oh. I 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:05.080 really have a terrible impression of Trump. It's so bad 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.839 because it's not gritty enough. It's not gritty. I think 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.640 Shayon gillis changed the idea of what a Trump impression is. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.080 It's a little higher. But it's not that I gotta 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.520 I'll work on it. I swear I will. Trump was right. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:27.520 Vance is the guy who stepped in it. And that's 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.440 when you first learned that JD. Vance is a very 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.720 different view of American policy. When JD. Vance started talking 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.320 about the idea that America is not the idea, America 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:42.760 is the soil, because his great grandparents were buried in Appalachia. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.400 I never took that one well. Never once did I 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.560 take that one well. I never took well that we 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.880 had a Department of Homeland Security. Are we people who 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.320 think of homeland, land of the free, home of the 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:04.520 brave number one? Since I put it together as homeland, Okay, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.880 home on I don't know. We're the land and we're 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:13.200 not the idea. We have land that we should protect, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:19.360 but we are an idea. The idea is what's powerful. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.679 The idea is what lights the world. The idea matters. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:29.880 I said, Okay, that is not where I'm at. And 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:35.480 then we have heard him when discussing Iran and discussing 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.720 this alleged deal the MoU He said it to Megan Kelly, 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.240 said it to others with this, it allows us to 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:45.360 get out of there, as if taking out the Iranian 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.880 terrorist threat is somehow not worthy and not worth our time, 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.960 not our problem a lah Tucker Carlson and all the 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.760 rest of that crowd. That is clearly, in my view wrong. 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.960 I don't argue that we should be fighting every war. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.559 I don't argue that we should be writing every check. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.040 It's a terrorist organization that is doing us harm the end, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.120 what are we waiting for? You want to bide into 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:15.840 the idea that this is Israel's bidding. It's pathetic and 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:20.840 it's sad. It's weak, and it's nonsense. None of what 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:25.440 the Iranian regime wants to do has anything to do 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:30.520 with Israel. It has to do with their wants. And 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.960 if you think Iran is not a threat to America, 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.880 it's like you've never read a book. You don't understand 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:42.600 their goals, their desires. It's weak, it is pathetically ignorant, 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.640 and we should say shame on those people. If you 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.040 don't think Trump has gone about the war properly, we'll 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.800 see that would be different. That would be different, right, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.920 Because that's a policy conversation. I'm cool with that, kitten. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:59.840 That's a worthy discussion. If you want to argue that 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.760 we should not have gone into i Ran, that could 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.400 also be a policy decision. If you want to argue 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.800 Iran is not a threat to the United States, that's laughable, ignorance, 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.640 bull crap. There's the difference. I can handle all the 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.680 other stuff. But that first that the idea never a 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.439 threat to us. It's just it's pathetic. It is pathetic. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:27.960 I say so anywhere at any time. Now we hear 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.319 that about JD. Vans. Let's just get out of there. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:36.400 It's like, okay. Different. Now, this the President coming out 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.040 on a social media post saying that the number one 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.719 goal is and always will be Iran not having a 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:48.880 nuclear weapon. But it was last week where JD. Vans 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.840 said that the goal number one for the administration amid 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.320 the war was to quote keep oil and gas cheap 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.559 for Americans all over the country. And then obviously goal 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.440 number two is ensure that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:05.319 I feel confident we're accomplishing both of those goals. Now, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:11.880 one could argue that a it's a little it was 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.040 a little bump, it's a little thing. It's just the 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.760 way he said. He said the first one, first, he 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:20.200 said this one. This, it's all the same. I don't 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.000 believe it is all the same. And we should be 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.440 clear that there is a divide here. This is not new, 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.200 This is not new. But I think this divide is 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.559 where the divide of the country is going to come, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:42.880 not left, right, right, right. I said last week that 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.640 you know we're in We're in midterm season. Everybody knows this. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.840 Midterm elections have begun. Everything is is focused on this. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.200 This is what the next two months are thousand percent, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.960 this is what the next two months are all about. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.800 Every focus is there, and certainly you'd rather have lower 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:03.480 oil prices to make it easier on your cant Can 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:10.880 I also put something else out into the ether? The 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:18.080 post Trump America has begun. Trump fans may not want 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.080 to hear it. You may not want to hear it 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:26.120 wherever you are on the spectrum, but it's here. The 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:33.760 post Trump America has begun. Vance very clearly, very obviously, 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.920 is trying to figure out his next moves as he 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.880 runs for president of the United States. That is obvious. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.520 New York Post reporting that Rubio's outperforming Vance in a 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:51.640 twenty twenty eight matchup hypothetical. Vance, however, had a fundraiser 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.880 with Donald Trump Junior and some people who were the 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.800 original funders of what was It? Tucker. They started on 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:58.880 the left. They may still be on the left for 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.880 all I know. One hundred thousand dollars a plate unless 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.920 you wanted the special meet and greet it was two 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:10.880 hundred and fifty thousand dollars a plate. He's raising money 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.679 and he has got Donald Trump Junior on his side. 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:21.880 Hard Donald Trump Junior has lied, not lied. I'm sorry, 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.480 don't read other things, Tony while you're doing the show. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:34.079 That's Foolhardy. Donald Trump Junior worked aggressively to get jd 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.560 Vance to be the vice president. He has talked about this, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:45.240 bragged about this, bragg about moving President Trump into picking 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.960 JD Vance. I say, as clear as day, jd Vance 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.480 was never my guy. He was not the guy I 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.360 would have selected for vice president. The guy I would 0:12:55.360 --> 0:13:00.720 have selected for vice president Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I would 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.640 have picked the governor of Arkansas ten thousand. If you 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.480 want to talk about somebody who got through the first 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:11.680 term smelling like a rose, turned herself into a player 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:18.640 and has capacity, Sarah Huckemy Sanders. What have we not? 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:25.800 The should we discuss this? Now we are in it 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:33.800 and in the post Trump world. The right versus right 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:41.240 argument isn't actually about Israel, and isn't even a specific 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:51.040 conversation regarding foreign policy. It is the idea of is 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:59.800 America a leader or is America America better leaving alone 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:08.560 isolationist America versus Allied America. Now I say Allied America. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.640 I do not say entangled America because I think that 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.400 there are a lot of places where a bunch of 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:21.760 us we have crossover, don't. I have no issue with 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.200 taking on the Iranian regime. I do have issue with 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.360 the idea of nation building. You know how much nation 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.520 building I want to do in the Gaza strip zero 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:40.760 less than zero. Do I want to help thwart the 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.720 Chinese presence in African nations? Yes? 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:44.080 Do. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.720 I absolutely want to eliminate it in South America and 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:56.880 Central America. You bet, you bet I do. What's the 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:01.480 take from jd Vance on that jd Vance a Monroe doctrine, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.800 Guy Monroe doctrine. President Monroe was about limiting European influence 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.920 in the Western hemisphere. Now we have to discuss it 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.720 as a limiting of Chinese influence in the Western hemisphere. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.800 And Dad, we now engaged the idea that we keep 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.600 this hemisphere and they have that hemisphere. We move the USS, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.880 George Washington out of theater. It's now in the Middle East. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.840 We're leaving the USS. Abraham Lincoln. We supposedly are going 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.120 to be replacing that carrier group in the Pacific. When 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.800 will be a question is it already there steaming its way? 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:36.200 Will it's good question. Maybe we are already into these things, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:43.280 and maybe this will appease the Vance types. But this 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.040 divide between Trump and Vance, I don't think it is 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.200 just a little bit of a little hiccup thing. I 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:54.160 think it is a real fundamental difference about not caring 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.400 whether or not Iran as a nuclear weapon. The people 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.200 who say Iran was never getting a nuclear weapon, It's 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:04.080 just it's so so laughable. Just deal with the reality 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:05.880 of who they are, what they want, what they're doing. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.280 Dear Lord, they could be enriching uranium right now. I 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.160 don't know what's going on in Pickaxe Mountain, and neither 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:15.600 do you. I'm assuming America as a whole, our apparatus 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:21.120 has an idea what's going on. But Trump Advance are 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.840 talking about actual different visions for America, and Rubio and 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.960 Vance definitely are, and you and I might be. And 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.840 this is where we're at. This is where the right is. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:38.040 It starts now, it starts now. What's the vision for 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:45.040 America going forward? What's our vision of the world going forward. Yeah, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.720 got a lot more than midterms to contend with. Keep 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.680 it here. This is Tony Kats today. President Trump out 0:16:51.720 --> 0:17:00.920 with a statement, No, I'm not you tell me. I 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:06.119 mean you're buying ground beef too. Today I concluded a 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.280 deal to substantially lower the price of ground beef for 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.920 working American families. Tony Katz. That's me, by the way, 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.840 Tony Katz today, good to be with you. As everyone knows, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.600 under President Biden, beef price is swored at their fastest rate, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.439 and the American beef herd fell to its smallest size 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.360 in modern history. As we work to rebuild this herd 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.199 and help our ranchers. For the next ninety days, the 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.760 United States will allow up to three hundred thousand metric 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:39.159 tons of product for ground beef to be imported with 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.480 no out of quota tariff. We have a commitment that 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.760 this beef will be sold at twenty five percent below 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:50.440 current market prices. This will this deal will reduce prices 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.080 for Americans while giving space for our great American beef 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.600 herd to grow again. Thank you for your attention to 0:17:55.640 --> 0:18:00.600 this matter. President Donald J. Trump. We can talk about 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.560 the herd and if there are farmers out there who 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.359 want to address this. I'm all ears, I'm all ears. 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:11.440 Email me Tony at tonycats dot com. So we're gonna 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.160 bring in foreign beef and we're gonna bring it in 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:23.400 at a reduced price, and that's good. Ho I honestly, 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.280 I I my my off the cup. Well that's not good. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:32.760 That is that is pretty far from good. No, not 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:38.320 not good at all. I could be seeing it wrong. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:43.280 People are gonna be thrilled to have cheaper beef. It's 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:51.400 cheaper beef compared to American beef. That's that's not something 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:59.320 that I'm thrilled by. Maybe maybe people will just say, hey, 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.560 we could afford ground beef this week. Fantastic, Everyone gets 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:10.040 a burger if you tell me this actually will put 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:15.200 less pressure on cattle ranchers and therefore the herds can grow. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.160 And this is a short term thing for a long 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:21.320 term benefit. Maybe maybe that's what he's getting at here. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.639 I need to talk to some farmers off the rip. 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.280 It sounds like we're bringing in beef and screwing American 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:35.000 cattle ranchers. That's what it sounds like. This is Tony 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:41.200 Kats today. The story came out of Westfield Indiana, which 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.560 is not too far from where I'm at right now. 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:50.080 If I if I threw a rock and then picked 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:51.760 it up and threw it again a few more times, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.840 I would hit Westfield, Indiana. The arm is not what 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.199 it used to be. Oh ever, since tearing the bicep 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.000 tender na no, no, no, no, no, not not at all, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.040 Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:11.959 Westfield is really a lovely place, growing place, massive in 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.600 its growth. It has one of these. It has this 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.240 area in it called Grands Park, where they decided as 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.280 a city, you know what, we're gonna build baseball fields, Well, 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.439 how many as many as we can fit. Why because 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.119 people they play organized baseball and they bring their kids 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.680 and it'll be a good spot for them to play. 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.639 You're just gonna build baseball diamonds. People are gonna show up. Yeah, 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.880 and quite literally, it was build it and they will come. 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:44.679 It's madness, the millions of people who come through for 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.480 all of these tournaments and everything else. Westfield Live Golf. 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:50.640 This is the second year in a row they brought 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.520 one of the tournaments. They're closing out their season and 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:58.520 possibly closing out the entire league. In Westfield, Indiana. It's 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:04.560 a nice spot. And in Westfield, Indiana, the high school, 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:10.040 they have a Turning Point USA chapter. And at this 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:14.720 Turning Point USA chapter their president. Her name is Sophie 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:24.119 Hunt hun T. She was at a school event. Now 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.600 I didn't know about school event, not having any kids 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:31.679 that go to Westfield High School, but something happened that 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.720 got publicized by libs of TikTok and it has made 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:40.920 this girl and what happened quite famous. Let me tell 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:44.840 you in her own words. 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.800 Sophia Hunt and I'm Turning Point USA's Club America chapter 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.760 president at Westfield High School in Westfield, Indiana. At our 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:52.960 local Brock the Block. 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:53.440 Event last week. 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.080 It's a back to school event. I was working with 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.000 my Turning Point chapter, my secretary and treasure and we 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.240 were talking to families about what Turning Point was, what 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.119 it does and within our school and what we stand 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.720 for and handing out the cutest redway and blue bracelets. 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.480 A little boy came up to our booth and he 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.480 tried to grab a bracelet and I saw a mom 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.080 come and drag him away. I then looked at her 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.600 and I said, hey, are you okay? She then immediately responded, 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.240 why the f are you asking me if I'm okay? 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:22.240 I was flabbergasted. I then said, your son wanted a bracelet, 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.199 here's a bracelet, and she slapped it out of my 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.520 hand and started cursing at us, screaming at us and 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:30.480 calling people we support racist, homophobic, and disgusting, saying, quote unquote, 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.840 you guys are supporting a piece of and I said, 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.520 I hope you have a better day. She then stormed 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:37.679 off and was still yelling at us in front of 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.160 parents and children, probably between the ages of six and ten. 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.080 And the crazy part is that she admits it in 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:44.919 her own video that she flipped out and that she 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:46.359 was seeing red. 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:51.919 Now I had to edit her video. We'll get to 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:58.159 that in a second. The setup from uh, Sophia Hunt 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:03.240 is clear school event. It's the school chapter. They're handing 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.919 out bracelets. A kid wants a bracelet, as a kid 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:08.399 would want anything somebody's handing out of it's got some 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:12.119 pretty colors in it, and the mom says, you can't 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:17.920 take that and decides to yell at her. Now, I 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:22.159 would state for the record that anybody who thinks Charlie 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.600 Kirk was a bigot is a fool. They know nothing 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.920 and they don't care about knowing anything. They hear Charlie Kirk, 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.520 they go to this Pavlovian response, they don't care about 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:37.520 the truth. We cannot convince them otherwise, that will take time. 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.800 They cannot even begin to respect the idea that they 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.920 can disagree with a politics, or disagree with a policy, 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.760 or disagree with an idea, but it doesn't make the 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:54.440 person who has the idea you disagree with a racist 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:58.560 or a bigot, or this, that or the other. They 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:04.240 can't start themselves now. You know, before I even had 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:09.000 to say anything that the woman who yelled at Sophia 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:13.960 Hunt was one of these liberal white women. Liberal white 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:17.920 women are a problem. I've said it before, I'll say 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.320 it again. I'll say it to the liberal white women. 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:24.399 I will apologize for nothing. This is the group. Dad 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:28.199 Sad refers to this as suicidal empathy. This is the 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:34.040 group that is quite literally the most susceptible group to 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:39.840 all levels of guilt and radicalness you have ever seen. 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.760 They are the ones most susceptible. When you see people 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:48.960 out there engaged in protests, it's the women. Not only 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.240 because they are susceptible to it and We can go 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.520 through this on a philosophical basis, we can go through 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.960 this on emotional basis, We can go through this on 0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:05.159 a structure basis. But also we can discuss when we 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:10.840 can discuss this in a multiplicity of ways. These are 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:14.160 also people who believe that they can do the most 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:19.320 because they have the social contract on their side. The 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:23.560 social contract says, what, you hit a woman, there's no 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.200 reason to hit a woman. You don't hit a woman. 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.119 You don't hit women. Yeah, you don't hit women. You 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.639 shouldn't be hitting anybody. You don't hit women. What women 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:34.560 believe that means is they can do anything and a 0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.800 guy just has to take it. And what that has 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.000 become since they've been able to mouth off here, there, 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:44.480 and everywhere, and no one has ever said to them 0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:48.439 shut up. They've never had to worry about getting a 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:53.440 backhand as a man would. They've lost sense of reality. 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.639 Now that's a really tough thing to talk about. Is 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.119 anybody questioning whether or not I'm right? Of course, you 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.560 shouldn't hit anybody. Don't hit anybody? What's wrong with everybody? 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.920 Don't hit anybody? Some of us learn the hard way. 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:11.680 Some of people are smarter, don't hit people. Don't rip 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.480 things out of their hand. You don't like what they 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:20.040 have to say, don't go near them, you know, like 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:21.760 what I have to say in radio, don't tune in? 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.560 What do I have? I have people in the chat 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.399 room threatening me. Not everybody. Most people are good people. 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.840 But today's been an interesting day. Of course, this was 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:36.520 a liberal white woman. What became interesting is that it 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.000 was learned as people are posting and I'm not using 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.760 her name, because this woman was actually on the cover 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.520 of a local magazine like Westfield Living I think was 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.720 the name of it. And then it was learned that 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:53.600 she's listed in on some website as an influencer, an 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:58.080 Indianapolis influencer. She also uses pronouns. It was like, okay, 0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:04.000 absolutely not she's listed as an Indianapolis influencer. Allow me 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:08.960 to be clear, No, she's not. She is not an 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:13.840 influencer of any kind in any way. No one had 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:18.720 ever heard of her before. I am in my state, 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:24.080