WEBVTT - Best of JMV 8/20/26

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<v Speaker 1>Meantime, back at drop Light Grant Park, we're in Westfield

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<v Speaker 1>where they continue the second of two joint practices with

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<v Speaker 1>the Falcons and the Colts and DeForest Buckner. A little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on, but on the any More Automative Group hotline,

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<v Speaker 1>it is our friend from the Star who covers the pasters,

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<v Speaker 1>Dustin de Puic, joining us. Hello, Dustin, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>John about yourself? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Dustin fantastic?

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, if all of a sudden I

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<v Speaker 1>disappear and it's Caleb, Caleb is going to take over,

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<v Speaker 1>So don't let that surprise you just in case.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Pal sounds good man. All right, let's start with

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<v Speaker 3>the zone.

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<v Speaker 1>How has the overall response been from what you've gathered

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<v Speaker 1>so far from Pacer fans regarding their content providing announcement

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<v Speaker 1>of earlier today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I actually asked that question just on Twitter, just basically,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you guys think? More or less? That's something

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<v Speaker 2>an assignment I got for my boss, uh, and it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it's what I would have expected. I think

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<v Speaker 2>what's interesting is anybody who has been getting the broadcast

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<v Speaker 2>through FanDuel or through balleies and using the apps for

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<v Speaker 2>those companies is happy because this is an upgrade and

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually cheaper. Anyone who is actually buying the app

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<v Speaker 2>will be spending less money than they were spending on that.

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<v Speaker 2>As I understand it, I can't remember what the subscription

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<v Speaker 2>prices were for that, but I think if you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>the early bird price, you're actually paying less money than

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<v Speaker 2>you were for that. The people that are bothered by

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<v Speaker 2>this are people that already have subscriptions to some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cable or cable ish service, you know, something like

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<v Speaker 2>Spectrum or Direct TV or something on those lines. People

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<v Speaker 2>who are already paying money are a little bit annoyed

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<v Speaker 2>by this because they're like, Okay, it's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think there's a general feeling of being bothered

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<v Speaker 2>by this whole thing because so many people have just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they're you know, just washed in subscriptions. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just constantly being asked to pay something more for something

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<v Speaker 2>else that they didn't used to have to and they're remembering, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this was just part of my cable package. I paid

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred bucks a month whatever it was, and that

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I got everything. Now, you know, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>still kept that cable package and you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>all these additional things that you used to just get

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<v Speaker 2>as part of that, and so I think they just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they're paying, you know, paying more for less

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<v Speaker 2>than they used to get it. We're paying a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more for what they used to get. So there's I

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<v Speaker 2>think again, I think it's positive for the people that

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<v Speaker 2>were already watching paces games through an app of some

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<v Speaker 2>kind and they look at the price and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's totally doable for me. But the people that have

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<v Speaker 2>been paying for something like cable and we're holding onto

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<v Speaker 2>it that way are not pleased that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dustin to Pirac at the start, the Zone is

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<v Speaker 1>the content provider for the Pacers now, at least for

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<v Speaker 1>the foreseeable future. So if you wouldn't mind recapping for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that may be a bit in the dark about

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<v Speaker 1>this announcement earlier today, what does the Zone and the

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with the Pacers entail dollar figure amount and then

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of access to the pacers and other situations

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<v Speaker 1>like the Pacer fans have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't know what the dollar figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>mount in terms of what the Pacers are getting out

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<v Speaker 2>of this. It's a five year deal. There are opt

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<v Speaker 2>outs involved. Basically the way this came down in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place. Obviously, the company their owned valleys was called

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<v Speaker 2>Diamond Sports Group. They went under a Chapter eleven bankruptcy

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<v Speaker 2>and in May of twenty twenty three, Main Street Sports

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<v Speaker 2>kind of formed out of the wreckage of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>they basically Won't. Won't wound down at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the basketball season, so they were in a position where

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<v Speaker 2>they had to pick somebody new in the NBA basically

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<v Speaker 2>told all these teams that were in that position, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>try to get something where you have an opt out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, basically because they're they're looking into the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of having what mel Rains referred to as an aggregated solution,

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<v Speaker 2>just basically that there would be kind of a hub

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<v Speaker 2>for these regional sports networks run by the league. But

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<v Speaker 2>what mel Rain's pointed out, she said that the das

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<v Speaker 2>that the Zone is interested in being a partner for

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<v Speaker 2>that hub, so they're there. It's a longer term agreement

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<v Speaker 2>because there is kind of, I guess on hope on

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<v Speaker 2>both parts that this will be compatible with whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>league does after that. So pricing numbers as far as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for fans are concerned, A season pass at

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<v Speaker 2>regular price is one nineteen ninety nine, but I guess

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<v Speaker 2>there's an early bird and I think that's what people

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<v Speaker 2>were excited about. Is if you buy the subscription before

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<v Speaker 2>October fifteenth, it's fifty nine to ninety nine for the year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also nineteen ninety nine per month if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go that way. But if you're a season ticket holder,

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<v Speaker 2>you get a complimentary season pass, and I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be free trials for everybody who signs up

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<v Speaker 2>for a subscription. Beyond that, there will be I think

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two games that will be broadcast in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the paywall, so you can watch for free on the zone.

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<v Speaker 2>They're also looking for a local broadcaster that they're hoping

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<v Speaker 2>will take fifteen of those twenty two games that will

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<v Speaker 2>be able to broadcast live over there. So they're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for somebody that would be a local affiliate for one

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<v Speaker 2>of the for one of the networks, basically for whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's ANCCBS, NBC, Fox, one of those four. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>look and they're gonna get hope to get a local

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast partner out of that. So that's the whole rundown

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<v Speaker 2>for this consumer. But I don't know exactly what the

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<v Speaker 2>team is getting out of this from what their financial

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<v Speaker 2>end of it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you mentioned the whole local broadcast entity as

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility. From what you have you heard, what options

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<v Speaker 1>are out there? We know what Channel thirteen does along

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<v Speaker 1>with the fever. Is it Channel thirteen or might it

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<v Speaker 1>be somebody else out there that could be that local

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<v Speaker 1>provider for a handful of games?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they wouldn't. They wouldn't tell us. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you would have to think THHR would probably be

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<v Speaker 2>a favorite for that just because I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>they did. I think it was THHR that did maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it was it six seven games last year. So you

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<v Speaker 2>would think just having started that already, that would make

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<v Speaker 2>them I'm sorry, okay, anyway, sorry I heard cambsay something

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<v Speaker 2>I thought. But yeah, I think that they there. You

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<v Speaker 2>would think they'd be the leader in the clubhouse for

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<v Speaker 2>that just by having done this already. But that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know at this point, and there they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't giving us too much information on that. But but

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<v Speaker 2>still you would think that. But those would be kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the options, whether it's you know, WISH or WTHR

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<v Speaker 2>or or or one of those options. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think of all the other call numbers in my head

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not remembering right now, but any of those

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<v Speaker 2>sort of local broadcast affiliate networks would be the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that they would be targeting potential partners there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a Dustin to pierrack of the Star, the

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<v Speaker 1>Zone and the Pacers are together for your streaming Pacer

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<v Speaker 1>season coverage. Here fifty nine ninety nine for the early bird.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get back to that price in just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the whole full court or in season package for

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA is that's still intact? Is that still an

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<v Speaker 1>option for Pacer fans out That's what I'm going with

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<v Speaker 1>as a part of Direct for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's I mean it's an in the market, out

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<v Speaker 2>of market thing. I mean, I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be Direct different for Direct TV or anything

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<v Speaker 2>on those lines. You know, this is for basically it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's for sort of in market subscribers. So like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're out of market, you know, and you're getting League passed,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still going to get the patients the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be part of your League Pass subscription as I

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<v Speaker 2>as I understand that that will still operate the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know where kind of all the market

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<v Speaker 2>lines are specifically in terms of where you get League

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<v Speaker 2>Pass versus where you get the zone. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the zone listed like a long list of

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<v Speaker 2>states including I think Missouri and Iowa that were considered

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<v Speaker 2>in market. So I don't know if that takes you.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't seem that it would make sense that if you're

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<v Speaker 2>in Iowa you wouldn't be able to watch a Pacers

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<v Speaker 2>game as part of your League Pass subscription. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make a lot of sense. I mean that the lines

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<v Speaker 2>don't seem to go that far for other things. It's

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<v Speaker 2>far similar packages are concerned, so I would be surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know how it will work, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>in this market. I mean I think that like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I get MLB TV. I know, like Red's games are

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<v Speaker 2>blacked out on MLB TV, I have to watch on TV,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, Cubs games, White Sox games the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it would probably be similar with the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacers and maybe the Bulls, but I'm not totally sure

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<v Speaker 2>about that how that's going to shake out.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh dusted to Piroc right there, the Zone and the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacers for the foreseeable future. Do we know what type

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<v Speaker 1>of negotiation went into getting down whittling down this price tag?

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<v Speaker 1>And then how does that compare two other NBA squads

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<v Speaker 1>that also are utilizing the Zone for their content provider.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. We're still figuring out there. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like I think the second in what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a the Zone rollout. I mean, out of these

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen teams that were on, I guess main Street Sports,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, among the group that we're being represented or

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<v Speaker 2>partnering with Main Street Sports, the Timberwolves or I think

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<v Speaker 2>the first ones that came down and I didn't look

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<v Speaker 2>at their pricing. I had to do that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think one thing that they said, we we got a

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<v Speaker 2>briefing with Mel Reins and Joey Graziano on Wednesday that

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<v Speaker 2>was embargoed UH to get a better sense of how

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<v Speaker 2>this was going to shake out, and they were very

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<v Speaker 2>adamant about saying that they they tried to push for

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<v Speaker 2>the best pricing that they could do given this circumstance. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Zone is only a streaming service, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to go get a channel.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're not going to be able to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>make up for this with you know, rights fees or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever from TV. You know, this is going to help.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how they operate. But they tried to push,

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<v Speaker 2>as they explained it, to get the best deal that

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<v Speaker 2>they could uh for fans that way, I think because

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<v Speaker 2>they they know that there's going to be some level

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<v Speaker 2>of backlash to even having to pay anything more for

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<v Speaker 2>this at all, So they tried to whittle that down

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<v Speaker 2>as much as they could. And and and again I

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<v Speaker 2>think fans that have been getting stuff through streaming see

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<v Speaker 2>it as a pretty good price.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they were they really pushed on that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing Mel made a point of saying is that

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<v Speaker 2>de Zone was the only potential partner. And they said

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<v Speaker 2>they talked to maybe a dozen, but de Zone was

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<v Speaker 2>the only one that came into market. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they basically like really made a push. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Zone is making a push for almost all of

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<v Speaker 2>these properties. And you know, they they came in town.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, basically they met there trying to get an

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of how the market works. They're not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do this just from a distance. And so that was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that they got across, basically, was

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<v Speaker 2>that this has to be you know, accessible, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, relatively inexpensive, you know, for fans

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<v Speaker 2>as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So can I share this with my mom in southwestern

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana the dream if I get it?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I do that? That's really weird for me saying

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<v Speaker 3>that my apology.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I I I'm not totally sure how

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<v Speaker 2>it shakes out. I mean, because I think you can

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<v Speaker 2>get it on a lot of addresses. I think somebody

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned this to me that I and I hadn't seen this,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's I think it's two. It's like it's eighty

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<v Speaker 2>for two devices or eighty for two IP addresses, So

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be forty each in that case. So, but you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't just give your sixty dollars subscription away, I guess. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's so I'm a little bit foggy on those

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<v Speaker 2>details in terms of Okay, well, what if you do

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<v Speaker 2>it this way, what if you do it that way?

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<v Speaker 2>What if you have this into that you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>was on the impression coming out of there that it

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<v Speaker 2>was okay, if you're subscribing to this thing, you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's available. I mean, I know, I get a

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<v Speaker 2>Direct TV subscription and that's available from my laptop, my phone,

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<v Speaker 2>and my TV, and I don't have to have three

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<v Speaker 2>different numbers for that, and maybe in this one you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not totally sure.

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<v Speaker 5>John can't heart Yeah, John, I think John, you cut

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<v Speaker 5>out there, Dustin. One of the questions that I had

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<v Speaker 5>was how does and you brought it up earlier with

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<v Speaker 5>the Bally deal, how does it compare to those deals?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it more expensive? I maybe maybe you'd have to

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<v Speaker 5>look back at the numbers, but like, do you think

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<v Speaker 5>this is a better deal than what they've had in

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<v Speaker 5>the past for fans?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I interestingly enough, I mean I hadn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have that number off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody that's been telling me about basically their experience

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<v Speaker 2>has said, you know that it is cheaper. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember what Bally had, I Camember, what Vandal had.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so if it's less, it must have been

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<v Speaker 2>more than sixty and it might have been eighty or

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<v Speaker 2>ninety somewhere in that range. And so you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure. I have to double check that certainly before

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<v Speaker 2>I write my story to make sure I've got that right.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I understand that it is cheaper and the

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<v Speaker 2>difference is there. You know, Fandel and Bally at least

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<v Speaker 2>appeared on some either cable or cable ish packages if

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<v Speaker 2>you will. I know it was part of my direct

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<v Speaker 2>TV streaming package at home. I don't know. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they had some issues with a Spectrum and I know

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<v Speaker 2>they had issues with a Hulu and some other of

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<v Speaker 2>those kind of streaming services being a part of those things,

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<v Speaker 2>Dish and whatnot. So it really depended on what you

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<v Speaker 2>got on kind of what your overall you know, cable

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<v Speaker 2>or satellite or whatever package it was, whether it was included.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think if you were going via the app,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this app is actually less expensive than that

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<v Speaker 2>one was.

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<v Speaker 1>Can they promise that the streaming issues that were taking

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<v Speaker 1>place a year ago won't be taking place this season?

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't use the turn promise, But I'd say the

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<v Speaker 2>zone is very proud of itself, is the best way

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<v Speaker 2>that I could put it. Uh, you know, it's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a very very different it's you know, it's obviously a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different organization. So you know, they're they I think

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that their guy. They had a representative at

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<v Speaker 2>this briefing, Xander Berlinski, said, I think they've got two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand somewhat engineers, I mean, and they've got a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>big overall caseload internationally. I mean, they're they're a very

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<v Speaker 2>big global you know, basically grow global proprietor here. Much

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<v Speaker 2>of what they do at this point is still overseas,

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<v Speaker 2>like much of most of their overall bandwidth is either

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<v Speaker 2>in Europe or Asia or something along those lines. And

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<v Speaker 2>basically they're I think they're I think La Liga in

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<v Speaker 2>Spain and Serie A in Italy or entirely their properties

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<v Speaker 2>basically in country.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And they also are I think one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>distributors for the NFL out of the United State. And

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<v Speaker 2>so basically they've had to stream a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I don't understand the technicalities as much

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<v Speaker 2>to get okay, what would make them better at this,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have a lot of practice, I guess, is

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<v Speaker 2>the basic point. And they had to broadcast some very

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<v Speaker 2>very big events in in places where if you mess

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<v Speaker 2>this up, you're going to pay for it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you get Serie A wrong in Italy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's gonna be a pretty big embarrassed embarrassment to

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<v Speaker 2>you companies. Same deal with La Liga, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of these other big boxing events, and you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>domestic baseball in Japan was another big property they have.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you were screwing this up regularly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you were screwing up international broadcasts of NFL games,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there would be a price to pay. And

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like they've done pretty well. So it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like this is a thing that they understand, a game

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<v Speaker 2>that they really really get. So whether that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>show out, you know, we'll see. But you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>presumably it seems like a company that's better equipt. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>both Diamond and Main Street Sports went under pretty fast,

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<v Speaker 2>and those were, you know, seemed to be doomed situations

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<v Speaker 2>from the beginning. This you know, this company has been

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<v Speaker 2>standing for ten years on its own prior to taking

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<v Speaker 2>on on these networks, so it seems to have more

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<v Speaker 2>practice in what it's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Dustin, what do you think about the whole package?

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<v Speaker 1>Personal opinion?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think you know, I I I

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely sympathize with anybody who's looking at this and saying,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, I got to do something else. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think we're all like just as people in

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<v Speaker 2>the world right now, you're just like, man, like how

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<v Speaker 2>many you know, how many like monthly chunks are taken

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<v Speaker 2>out of my paycheck just in terms of subscriptions, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like you've got this. To get this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to you have to go, you know, apply

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<v Speaker 2>for this, and you have to go apply for that.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to spend money here, and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>spend money there, and it's just like, oh man, how

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<v Speaker 2>many things do I have to sign up with just

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<v Speaker 2>to get what I used to get? And so that

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<v Speaker 2>is I think bothersome. But I mean like having heard

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from Melon from and from the Pacers and

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<v Speaker 2>from his own, it's it's also like, well, like this

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<v Speaker 2>is where the world is going. I mean, like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason why these networks went under. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>why these rsns went under because there's been so much

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<v Speaker 2>cord cutting and because just the model hasn't worked. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when you're dealing with a situation where everybody who

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<v Speaker 2>tries to do something goes out of business, then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to do something else, and you've got to ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>embrace what's next, because you know that you're just not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to raise this banner over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again and and just try to do it the

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<v Speaker 2>same way. You know, I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>were hopeful that it was people. I wouldn't say people

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<v Speaker 2>were hopeful, because it's not like the Pacers indicated they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to be able to do this, But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people would like to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to a time when you could get a local

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast channel to just take this on. And as we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't work that way, and it's there's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>something in this market. She pointed out that some of

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<v Speaker 2>the teams have been able to do this, have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to do that with what we're basically dead channels.

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<v Speaker 2>They were able to take this over, and she said

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't basically able to find something similar in the

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana market that they could just take over and turn

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<v Speaker 2>into a Pacers channel. You know, that just wasn't an

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<v Speaker 2>option where it has been an option someplace else.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a Dustin the Puak of the Star.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group pot line, and

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you this my brother. The next time you're on,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about hoop and under this geeky technology,

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<v Speaker 1>costly bull crappy. Okay, buddy, sounds good man, excellent, Dustin

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<v Speaker 1>Puak there by the Andy Moore Automotive Group pot line.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for the time. Thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, a couple of things here. Did you see me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost catching stuff out here and everything I'm invaluable

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<v Speaker 1>to this operation. Caleb jump on here. Earlier dude, you

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<v Speaker 1>were flashing hands. Just in case this happens again. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to reiterate that you take over and you run

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<v Speaker 1>it because I trust you. We trust you, and it's twofold.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how you learn. And I'll give you a

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<v Speaker 1>quick story before I had a break when I was

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<v Speaker 1>working with Mark Patrick and Mark Patrick started to do

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<v Speaker 1>his show from his house. Sometimes he would go he

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<v Speaker 1>paint a room or calk a bathtub or something during

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<v Speaker 1>the break and forget to come back. Sometimes he would

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<v Speaker 1>forget to come back and then I would do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's that's how you learn. Man. Everybody trusts you.

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<v Speaker 1>So if something goes food bar and technology, especially up here,

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<v Speaker 1>that is completely out of.

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<v Speaker 3>Our hands, you take the Baton and you run with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, okay, that's Caleb's I'm John at drop Light,

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<v Speaker 1>Graham Park Speed, Greg raidylaws here. He's gonna win this.

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<v Speaker 1>Top of the power. The Forrest Buckner is still to come, Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>still to come. I've got tickets to give away to

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas Deep Purple and thanks to Mett Gowins and Triple

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<v Speaker 1>A at Triple A dot Com, Alabama shakes tickets to

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<v Speaker 1>give away as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So you guys sit tight for all that and more.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not go anywhere where.

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<v Speaker 1>This is ninety three to five and one oh seven

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<v Speaker 1>five the fan. Hey, welcome back to drop Light. We're

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<v Speaker 1>in Westfield and it is over the second of two

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<v Speaker 1>practices with the Falcons and the Colts preseason Game two

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up on Saturday. If you're watching on the

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<v Speaker 1>stream right now, he can wave at you and he's

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<v Speaker 1>right right behind him right here, the Forest Buckner, the

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<v Speaker 1>Colts is with us.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, man, doing well?

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<v Speaker 4>Doing well.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you guys for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Look like you feel I know you just had practice

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<v Speaker 1>and you're tired as hell, but you look like you

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<v Speaker 1>feel good. Yeah, look like you're in good nut shape.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always in good shape like everything. Oh yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling really good.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, being able to especially these past two practices,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, is the most us I've got, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>all camp and everything we've been ramping up to it,

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<v Speaker 6>and yeah, I been feeling really good, you know, being

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<v Speaker 6>getting back in the mix of things and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 6>just wanted to be back out there with the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>How dark were those times when you really didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to be able to do this again?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know I was. It was.

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<v Speaker 6>I definitely got to a pretty dark place. But I

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I was very lucky to have people in

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<v Speaker 6>my core her like my wife, you know, to kind

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<v Speaker 6>of you know, help drag me out of that whole

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit, you know what I mean. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's especially the first month after surgery, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I'm saying, not being able to do anything, just pretty

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<v Speaker 6>much be on bed rest for the for most of part.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a struggle. It was a struggle for sure

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<v Speaker 6>early on. But you know, having somebody like my wife

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<v Speaker 6>and a lot of other loved ones around me, and

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<v Speaker 6>obviously you know, having my kids around and a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of prayer. I mean, it's it helped me get through

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<v Speaker 6>those times and I'm just blessed to be here today.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there a signature moment when you knew, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I am coming back?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know it was really you know, I had

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<v Speaker 6>a great conversation with my wife. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>she she just you know, she really just made me realize.

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<v Speaker 6>She was like, you know what, you never quit anything

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<v Speaker 6>in your entire life, and you're not going to start now.

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<v Speaker 6>She was just like, you know, we're gonna take it

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<v Speaker 6>one day at a time, recovery, rehab, and just take

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<v Speaker 6>it one day at a time. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I did, and and that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 6>what really helped me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there are so many things that I think psychologically

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<v Speaker 1>can work against you because you've done all this, you've

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished all this, you've feel set, and you got a family,

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<v Speaker 1>spend more.

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<v Speaker 3>Time with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But ultimately, man, it's that juice of competition that has

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<v Speaker 1>to pull you back in.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 6>And uh, you know it's I'm very happy, you know,

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 6>it's that I made it through that time because you know,

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.200
<v Speaker 6>being out here, being back on the field, competing, Uh

0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.120
<v Speaker 6>is no other place like it.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, DeForest Buckner is with us. What do you

0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>think about the way the defense is coming together?

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I mean I feel like, uh, you know,

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.520
<v Speaker 6>we put together a solid couple of days. I mean,

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 6>obviously there's things we can still clean up, you know,

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 6>so a bunch of time before the season starts, but

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<v Speaker 6>I like, well, like what I'm saying so far, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we just got to you know, some minor things we

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 6>got to clean up in little things like that, but

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 6>continue to communicate, especially with all the different faces in

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 6>there in the mix, and I feel like we can

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:43.280
<v Speaker 6>be something special.

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>So your your teammates, especially though it's coming off the edge,

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like lay out to lat too, what have you seen

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.679
<v Speaker 1>from him from your angle where you've seen improvement and

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit of an upgrade in results coming

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>off the edge and more of a consistent pass rush

0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Speaker 1>this season.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just I would say the confident, you know

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.720
<v Speaker 6>what I mean in his rushing abilities, you know, each

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.399
<v Speaker 6>and every day, he's just got to continue to, you know,

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 6>build that confidence and build off of what he did

0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 6>last year. And I feel like he'll be able to

0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:09.400
<v Speaker 6>be set up for a great year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know him very well because he's from here.

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Kayden Curry. I don't know how well you know him.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously a teammate. Now what have you seen from the

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 1>rookie from Ohio State so far?

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I mean he's like a Swiss army knife, you

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 6>know what I mean. You can put him wherever, you know,

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 6>whatever you need, he'll do, you know what I'm saying.

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 6>He can be inside, outside, and uh, I mean he

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 6>has that natural past fish ability, you know, if you know,

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.560
<v Speaker 6>he goes from one move to another. He's he's uh,

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.919
<v Speaker 6>he's really good at what he does, you know, with

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 6>his craft and you could tell he's been he's been

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 6>working on it, you know, rushing inside and outside to

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.120
<v Speaker 6>have that ability, and you know he's he's a technician.

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's been fun to watch him.

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 1>So knowing you have at the back end, whether it's

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Mooney or Sauce Gardener or whomever. How how nice is

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>that to know you have this incredible playmaking.

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Ability in the back end of this defense.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, it definitely brings a lot of confidence to

0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 6>the front, you know what I mean. And you know,

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.119
<v Speaker 6>we know we you know we can get there. You know,

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 6>we're having guys like Mooney and Sauce and Wally and

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 6>uh and uh Cam back there, you know, all those

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.400
<v Speaker 6>guys back there. I mean it's it's definitely some confidence,

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, annoying you. You you have a little time

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:12.959
<v Speaker 6>to rush.

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>It is buying them the one he's to figuring everything

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>out for you on defense, making calls and such. Right, Yeah,

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>So how different is that for it? Because I know

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that used to do that is now in

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. How was that for you with him taking over?

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean I feel like it's been good. You know,

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 6>uh Cam's been doing a really good job with taking

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 6>over that spot, you know, owning it and everything, and

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, getting the calls, you know, relate to everybody,

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 6>and I feel like it's been it's been good so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Deforce Buckner is with us.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this rank as far as this defense in

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<v Speaker 1>this group compared to defense as you've been a part

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 1>of either here or in First Go in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>No, Yeah, I mean it's it's up there, you know

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying. I feel like it's one of the

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 6>top defenses, especially on paper, you know what I mean.

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 6>You know, but on paper doesn't mean anything's out there,

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:53.400
<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying.

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Improve it.

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 6>So we're definitely up there, you know, on the defense

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 6>that I've been on the past, and you know, we

0:23:58.520 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 6>just got to go out there and prove it.

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Lou and Remo and uh, what he asked for you?

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<v Speaker 1>What what is on the top of that list? What

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>he asked for you? What is your job description on

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>top of the list each and every week, each and

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>every game for me personally?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dominating my one on once Yeah.

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you do you allow other people to take

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>advantage then when you do that too, So that's job

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 1>number one.

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Now that's a tough that's a difficult gig.

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah right, No, yeah, I mean, uh but you know

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 6>it's you know, it's what's required for me, and you

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<v Speaker 6>know I wouldn't have it any other way.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had a summertime where you're rehabbing a neck

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.479
<v Speaker 1>and and your back. Did you do anything that was

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>was fun at all besides just getting back to it?

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, took my kids to Disneyland. Well heck yeah, hit

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 6>did a bunch of golfing, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get back to Hawaii very often?

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 6>I try to every year when when I can, you know,

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.640
<v Speaker 6>to take my family out there this this year during

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 6>the summer, wasn't really able to, you know, get out there,

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 6>just because we had so much going on, you know,

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 6>with with the with the kids and everything throughout the summer.

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 6>So I'm hoping to get others how much of how

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 6>much of your families? Dell and pretty much all of

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 6>my mom's side. That where you see yourself one of

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 6>these days getting back there. Ye, visiting a lot, Yeah,

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 6>visiting a lot. So yeah, but it seems like a

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 6>hell of a place to grow up. Yeah, honestly, right there,

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 6>all right, I gotta ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oregon Ducks, out of the Big ten, I believe

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>preseason rank second, had a little difficulty with the Indiana Hoosiers,

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the defending national champions a couple of times a year

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>ago in Eugene and in the Peace Toll.

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 3>What about the Ducks and the season coming up here?

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 3>You feel it? I''m filling I feel it every year.

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:32.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm optimistic every year.

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 6>So you know what I mean, I'm gonna be I

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 6>got a couple of you know, I got I got

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 6>a couple of guys on my side. I know here

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm not the lone Duck anymore out here. So you

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 6>know what I mean, we're gonna be We're gonna be

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 6>repping a.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Lot of brown.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were in Eugene, what if I would have

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>told you that a handful of years down the road,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the Indiana Hoosias are going to win the national title?

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 3>What would you have told me? I would have laughed. Yeah,

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 3>when I was back in school. Yeah, it is, it

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 3>is it.

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 6>It's awesome though, to see that the way that program

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 6>was turned around in every thing, and it's been fun

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 6>to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>How would have you been in the n I L

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Era as a collegiate player? Have you ever thought about that?

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Had the NIL era been a part of your era?

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>How wo had that been for your the transfer portal?

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Would you have stayed or would you have bounced around?

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 3>I think like that. I mean I think I would

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 3>have stayed, to be honest. I mean that's just that's

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 3>just that's just kind of how who I am.

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you get one place and you stay,

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I kind of wonder that's tested in nature.

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's definitely tested for sure. I Mean I couldn't

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 6>imagine having the portal and the NIL back in my day.

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>It to me, there is something to say about legacy though, Yeah,

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 1>for sure, and so many of these guys end up

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 1>losing their legacy.

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 6>That's been one of our main points and talking about

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 6>the whole, the whole you know deal. I mean, like,

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 6>where do they go back to, you know, when they

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 6>want to go back and visit you know as a lum. Yeah,

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 6>what school do you go to? And if you've been

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 6>to three different schools? You know what I'm saying, Like,

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 6>what school's going to claim you is? You know what

0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying, Like, that's hard.

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>No, Well, I go back to college in the nineties

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's like stratospherically different. But do you imagine how

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>different it is even for you going back, Not as

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>far as I go right now, it's completely different from

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>when you were there.

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 3>But I would agree with you on that.

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know if a lot of people would

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>be on the same page monetarily over legacy. But we

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>see that on a high school level all the time too.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>It just seems like a legacy is becoming less important.

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>But for guys like us, I think it's understandable. Right there,

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>What can this team do this season?

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Divorced?

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think we can honestly, we can definitely,

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 6>how do I put it? Exceed expectations?

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you read the expectations or look or watch what

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>people view you as record wise this year?

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 6>I mean you motivated by that or you too know?

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 6>I definitely get motivated by it, you know what I mean.

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean I'd be lying if I said I didn't

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 6>see it, you know what I'm saying. And with the

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 6>guys that we have on this team and the trust

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 6>that we have in one another, the belief we have

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 6>in one another, I mean that's how I feel.

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Is there something that we don't know about this group

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that that you see because you've been around this game

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>long enough as a teammate, about this group that maybe

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>we don't see from the outside looking in.

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 6>No, I just feel like everybody's hungry, you know what

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean, just just hungry to get out there and win.

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I mean just the way we started last

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 6>year obviously and the world we were on and then

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 6>obviously the way it ended. I mean, you know, it

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 6>is a bad taste in our mouth, and I just

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 6>feel like the guys are are are hungry this year.

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>The words of your owner carly Ers Gordon saying this

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<v Speaker 1>is a a must have, must win type of season

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that resonate to you as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hungry is a good way to put it though,

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>because it has been a while. Hey, congratulations on be

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>it back, getting back from that dark spot. One of

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the bright spots always right here is this guy. Go

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>ahead and wave to the folks out there watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>DeForest Buckner of the Colts joining us here live drop lit.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks man, Thank you, stay healthy. Pal. We appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>That is DeForest Buckner. Thank you very much for joining

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<v Speaker 1>me and uh we'll see you again soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Pal.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>The Forest Buckner right there. Mike Chappell's gonna join us.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to go early today, do you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what. Let's take a break. We'll get

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<v Speaker 3>Mike coming up on the other side as well. Caleb.

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<v Speaker 3>We can do that. Drop Light. Westfield Graham Park is

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<v Speaker 3>our location.

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<v Speaker 1>DeForest Buckner will put that on a podcast at one

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven five the fan dot Com.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ride with JMV. We'll be in a professional arena.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be in front of a lot of people House

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<v Speaker 3>Sports at E three five and one oh seven five.

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<v Speaker 3>The fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Dev is the on site engineer Caleb has done a

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<v Speaker 1>great job.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, both have done a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks for the scrambling folks down off of Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's for getting things done. Busy day so far to

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<v Speaker 1>Forest Buckner on the show, Greg Rakestraw and Dustin Depurek.

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<v Speaker 1>The Zone is the content provider of the Pacers for

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<v Speaker 1>this season and upcoming years.

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<v Speaker 3>And what was it again, Caleb? Fifty nine ninety nine? Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>If you go for the early Bird special.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, fifty nine to ninety nine it's gonna cost one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and nineteen if you don't. So you really want

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<v Speaker 5>to get in on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a lot of people split right down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle on this. I told you I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any room to really gripe because I will have to

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<v Speaker 1>get it. I don't know, like Mike Chappel, who's with

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<v Speaker 1>us right now when Rejoins had a great point about

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know how that is going to affect I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming this is just going to be a streaming service

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get via Roku or something like that itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, that's all that's going to be. It's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be offered anyplace else.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's above my pay grade. Yeah, when I turn

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<v Speaker 4>it on in the first game and I can't get

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<v Speaker 4>it on my AT and T, then I'll say, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>People are gonna be griping. So people like me that.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't look ahead and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I mentioned this, how am I going to

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<v Speaker 3>I get my mom for this?

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get her qualified for it, which is

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, sharing the stream and then making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>she can get it. Because there's no bigger Obie Topping

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<v Speaker 1>fan than my eighty year old mom down in Green

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<v Speaker 1>County and Owensburg, no doubt about that. So more on

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<v Speaker 1>that story coming up in a bit. Mike Chapel rejoins us.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned right now, I asked.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey real quickly a shout out to Steve Girardi.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he set me up for before the flood too.

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<v Speaker 4>It was amazing because it was kind of messy all day,

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<v Speaker 4>it cleared up great weather, and then about an hour

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<v Speaker 4>after the concert's over, I guess I had to shut

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<v Speaker 4>it down because of flooding, so we hit the window.

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<v Speaker 1>So Steve Girardi is an excellent dude. Another excellent dude

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<v Speaker 1>is Jaylaw. Jaylaw's fu Bar lounge is not too far away.

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<v Speaker 1>The pool is fixed and the beverages are flowing if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to wait out that rush hour traffic before

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<v Speaker 1>we head back to Beats Grove.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an idea right there.

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<v Speaker 1>With our good friend Jaylaw, I should mention tomorrow Ingles

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor's Pub and Table, Brent Halverson and Tony Rinz and

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Williams. Can you guys all join us coming up tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully so, because you know how Fridays go in a

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<v Speaker 1>place like Taylor's. With this show in mind, that is tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>we start at three in Ingles, right off of I

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine at Taylor's. Hoping to see you there also

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<v Speaker 1>before I get back to Mike and about this Colts

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<v Speaker 1>team right now, two three nine ten seventy, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do this on the phones number nine, two three nine

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<v Speaker 1>ten seventy. It is on Monday, ever wise, Amphitheater downtown,

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Purple in Kansas, number nine, and do not disappoint

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<v Speaker 1>two three nine ten seventy. You'll win those tickets Deep

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<v Speaker 1>Purple in Kansas, ever Wise, that is on Monday, number nine.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a winner. How is the kicking battle going to

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<v Speaker 3>this point with this team?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, right now, statistically, groupies, you know, got a huge lead.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like ninety sixty nine percent over Spencer Trader,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Trader makes those two monster kicks in the

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<v Speaker 4>opener to tie to tie it. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to get rid of a good kicker. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I sort of have an idea what they might do,

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<v Speaker 4>but uh again, you've got it's funny. You've got a

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<v Speaker 4>guy who holds the official franchise record with a sixty

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<v Speaker 4>yard field goal at Seattle, and then you got a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that kicked a sixty one yarder unofficially in preseason.

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<v Speaker 4>So and the whole thing with Trader. He's coming back

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<v Speaker 4>from too, you know, two major ligament damage in his

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<v Speaker 4>kicking knee, so that that sort of set him back

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit obviously in the kicking competition. But he

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<v Speaker 4>was as good as it got before he got injured.

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<v Speaker 1>How in the world you look at uh Grouppie over there,

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<v Speaker 1>How does he get all that energy behind that football

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<v Speaker 1>kicking at it?

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<v Speaker 4>He looked and we see him in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>Looks like he needs to go to class.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like he said he's coming into see to

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<v Speaker 4>get everybody's you know, cafeteria orders. He's not a bit

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<v Speaker 4>he looks he's not even big in shoulder pads, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's got it's that golf leverage, yeah thing. And I'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell you when that that sixty yarder he kicked and

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<v Speaker 4>it should have won the game for him, yeah, in

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<v Speaker 4>the last minute, and it didn't. So again, it's really

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<v Speaker 4>been fun to see Trader again. He's had a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of Missus encamping and for the most part they've all

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<v Speaker 4>been just left and whether that's something still from the

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<v Speaker 4>from the rehab or whatever. But again, I won't be

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<v Speaker 4>shocked at the keep Spencer Trader. I know they like him,

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<v Speaker 4>but group he's gonna finish camp with the numbers, if

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<v Speaker 4>that matters to anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Keenan Allen a little bit earlier, signed about

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours ago, made official, and the impact you expect.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been a guy that's put up good numbers. Whoever

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<v Speaker 1>he has been most of the time with the Charges,

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<v Speaker 1>but a year with the Bears. He did that with

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Williams as well. What's your expectation for results from

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<v Speaker 1>Keenan Allen, of which this offense needs and needs dramatically.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking that if you had an over under

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<v Speaker 4>of catches at sixty just because of the people around him.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've thought he'd give you sixty catches falling out

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<v Speaker 4>of bed, because that's what he does. I have never

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<v Speaker 4>ever considered and this isn't meant as a criticism, I

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<v Speaker 4>have never considered Keenan Allen Hall of Fame level. He

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<v Speaker 4>needs like forty eight catches to be number five all time.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll surpassed Marvin Harrison and catches now, not the yards.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think what he does, and we'll see we

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<v Speaker 4>were talking here all right about it a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>tonight is the I think the player who will be

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<v Speaker 4>most impacted by Keenan Allen is Josh Downs, because all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, this receiver group is back where it was.

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<v Speaker 4>You've exchanged Michael Pittman traded to Pittsburgh with Keenan Allen,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, an older version of pitt So I just,

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, you know, well, with pitt gone,

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<v Speaker 4>Pierce is gonna get more, and Downs is gonna get more.

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<v Speaker 4>All of a sudden, you're you're you're adding a guy

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<v Speaker 4>that's gonna get barring injury, eighty ninety targets and there's

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<v Speaker 4>only so many plays in a season, and let's say

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<v Speaker 4>eleven hundred snaps, but JT is gonna get three twenty

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<v Speaker 4>because they're gonna run the ball. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be they're gonna test Josh Downs's patients again, because

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<v Speaker 4>that's kind of the function of this offense now, which

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<v Speaker 4>is which is a really good thing for the team.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just want to see how they You get

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<v Speaker 4>your best players under field, and you maximize your best players.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the old Tom Moore philosophy. So it's really

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be up to Shane and Jim Bob to find snaps,

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<v Speaker 4>define targets and if they do, great, But somebody is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be getting less than what they thought like four

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<v Speaker 4>days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you sure that we're going to see Alec

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<v Speaker 1>Pierce in week one? Absolutely? Positively?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Well no, but but ninety percent sure. I think again,

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 4>what we don't see. I think he's working his butt

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<v Speaker 4>off on the side behind, you know, before practice. I

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 4>think he's really doing stuff, but he needs to be practicing,

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<v Speaker 4>uh within a week, I mean off of pupp and

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 4>practicing when they get back to town or get back

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 4>to the complex. And I think if he's got three

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<v Speaker 4>weeks to be back back, you know, to be back

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 4>with the team. He'll be fine, but he's uh. It's

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 4>the thing people need to remember. He hardly ever came

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<v Speaker 4>out the field last year. He was like ninety snaps

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<v Speaker 4>of game. You know, he and Pitt. We're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to see that. But I am pretty sure everybody that

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<v Speaker 4>I believe tells me. And we talked to Ed Dodds

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<v Speaker 4>the other day. He said, I'm not worried about Alec Pearce. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I understand we're you're coming from it, and you've got

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 4>more than enough evidence to say, well you have what

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<v Speaker 4>about back here? But we are past the timeline that

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 4>they gave us. I'd have to go back and check

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 4>my notes, but I thought it was first it was

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 4>a clean up surgery, but it was more than that.

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 4>It was at left heel and the ankle, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was three to four months is and we're past that time,

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 4>which is one reason teams don't like to give to

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 4>give time frames. When you missed it, well, hey, I

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 4>thought you said, but yeah, yeah, So I think if

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 4>he's back and has three good weeks, two really good

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 4>weeks the practice, he'll be okay. But that's why And

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 4>again people need to realize they didn't sign Keenan Allen

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<v Speaker 4>because of Alec Pierce's situation. They were going to do

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<v Speaker 4>this anyway because they needed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I'll get much more concerned if at the

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 4>end of next week he's still on pupp which means

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 4>he cannot actors with the team. The longer it goes,

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 4>then all of a sudden, you're intena really start tingling.

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<v Speaker 4>Mine are tingling a little bit, but not where they

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 4>they're hurting my ears.

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 3>So what does he need to do?

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>He used to be taking the top off, going down

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the field and stretching the field.

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 3>But we know this. You get a raised at that position,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to have to be asked to do a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we start in what you ask Alec Pearce

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<v Speaker 1>to do and be production wise for this team this season.

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<v Speaker 4>I never believe that he was going to get that

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 4>many more. Yes, more targets, of course, but you can't

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 4>increase the volume and lose the impact. Now, he's not

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 4>going to average twenty yards of catch. It just it

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 4>won't happen. But he still needs to average sixteen seventeen.

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 4>But when with him being more involved underneath it's gonna

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 4>make receiver DB's play up a little tighter, which if

0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 4>he's successful nderneath, then it frees him up over the top.

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 4>All So, if I'm a dB, I'll tell peer's hey,

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 4>if you want twelve yards, go ahead. You're not going

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 4>to beat me deep. But him expanding his route tree

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 4>is going to open up the deep, especially with everybody

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 4>else doing what they do with Tyler Warren and Josh

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 4>Downs and all of that. But I think anyone who

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 4>thought he was gonna all of a sudden get one

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirty targets was wrong. But he's going to

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 4>be increase. But they can't lose the chunk plays because

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 4>that's part of the reason he's getting that money, not value,

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 4>but what he brings to the team.

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Keithan Allen was a guy that they signed, obviously, and

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it took a lot longer than what we thought. But

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 1>he had said when he was introduced to the media

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 1>here that it was his decision to come here.

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that?

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And we saw that the Texans were compromised with an

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>injury yesterday as well, and the.

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Wide receiving corps.

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Without a doubt, would he have been someplace else playing

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>football this year, had it not been the Colts that

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>ask him and he made that decision to play here?

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 4>What he's still yes, he'd played somewhere else, but the

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 4>fact that the culture answered, and let's let's not underplay

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 4>Shane Stikeen's influence. They were together for seven years in

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 4>San Diego slash Los Angeles, and except for the one

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 4>year I think when Allen was hurt, he was he

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 4>was one hundred and twenty targets and one hundred catches

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 4>and eleven hundred yards. So there's something there. There is,

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, he calls Shane syke In a genius and

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 4>and and I can't remember the last time Shane Syken

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 4>talked about a player the way he did Keenan Allen,

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 4>maybe Daniel Jones he has So this was always going

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.919
<v Speaker 4>to be a matter of when not if. I don't

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 4>think that Houston or somebody could have could have swept

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 4>in and changed things. It's funny Shane Stacken mentioned how

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 4>and even so did keenanw How they talk all the

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 4>time every week? I don't know, but you know, I'm

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 4>constantly and I asked Shane Stike and when did your

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 4>talks go from Hey, how you doing to Hey, when

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 4>are you coming to Indy?

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 4>You know it can't really legally, it couldn't happen until

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 4>mid March when his contract expired. But they've been talking.

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 4>There was dialogue and keithan all even said, you know,

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 4>we had talks without my agent. So this was going

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 4>to happen. This is not going to be signing Andre Johnson,

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 4>who was so done when he came here. This is

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 4>a guy that still can play. Uh, and he'll he'll

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 4>give him. It's a it's a one year thing and

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 4>that's and then they'll worry about twenty twenty seven next year.

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.439
<v Speaker 4>But this was going to happen. And when he walked

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 4>in the media yesterday, he's he looks a little bigger

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 4>than six two now he's not Michael Pittman. Well, he's

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 4>a good sized guy. He got work with the ones today.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 4>I think Shane's toady, like twelve or fourteen snaps, so

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 4>he will be Now. Now, you would have won the

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 4>bet if you said who practices first with the Colts,

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 4>keenan Allen or Aley Pierce. So you know that's again

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 4>the Pierce thing is a problem until it's not. But

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 4>I feel a ton better now with this offense with

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Keenan Allen than without him.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I said my chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine.

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>You'd mentioned the running game is not up to where

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be yet. Obviously you believe in Jonathan Taylor,

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>so it will be. But what comes next? And it

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>looks like it's a rookie that comes next as of

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>right now. And I don't know if we got any

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>update on DJ Giddens. He went practiced a little bit today,

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>but he went out individually yesterday, didn't perform in the

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>team orientation.

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Was it kind of the same scenario today.

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know if he was out on the field

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 4>with the twos or threes, but he was out there

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 4>running tests on the hamstring. So I think he's okay.

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 4>But every day he misses it pushes him further down

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 4>SETH mcgallen's had a really good camp. It's funny how

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 4>whenever I see players anymore, I when I see the number,

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 4>I think that was who in the last twenty I

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 4>remember was Jordan Wilkins, who was a pretty good running back.

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 4>And if that kind of guy you's your number two,

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 4>you're in pretty good shape. But what you need from

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 4>a two barring injury is come in and give Taylor

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 4>a series off to where in the fourth quarter he's

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 4>really healthy. And right now you think it's gonna be McAllen,

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 4>but you don't know. But you've got to find somebody

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 4>that you trust when Taylor comes out. Yes, there's gonna

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 4>be a drop off, it just can't be where he's

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 4>a non factor. And so far, so far, you like

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 4>what you've seen.

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.839
<v Speaker 1>We saw Matt Gonzalvez out here a moment ago too.

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>How's the offensive line?

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 4>Look?

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.879
<v Speaker 1>We know all about how solid the group is as

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the starters, but there seems to be a lot of

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>unknown after that.

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not crazy about the backups. I think they can

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 4>get by a guard, whether it's Dalton Tucker or Josh

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Sills or Farmer, he'll probably the top guard backup. I

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 4>don't worry about the starting five, but I worried that

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 4>the starting five rarely rarely starts every game with the

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 4>last time here was it in twenty eighteen or nineteen?

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 4>And who's your who's your backup swing tackle? All right?

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 4>I would argue that right now Mowaly Cox is your

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 4>third tackle. Uh, so they've got they've got to solve

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.479
<v Speaker 4>that backup center and also shout out the ball stake.

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 4>Danny Penner with a torn patella. Gosh darned, I hate that.

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 4>And he was the guy they were gonna miss because

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 4>he could play the three spots inside out that Quentin

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 4>never comes off, so they need to get and again

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:49.959
<v Speaker 4>today the backup center, whether it was Morrissey or whether

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 4>it was Tucker, the quarterback doesn't know where the ball

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 4>is going to be in shotgun, So how do you

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 4>play quarterback when you're not even sure you're going to

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 4>get the ball. That's a can you've got had. You

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 4>normally like to have eight or nine guys that you know.

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 4>If this guy has to play, we're okay, And right

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 4>now they don't have that.

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Shavarius Ward and the red flags going up

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>with the back situation. Let's start right there, and this

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>thing doesn't work without the dudes in that secondary conclusion.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with him, this will be the best secondary they've had.

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm including the safeties because the safeties are deep without him,

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 4>then everybody moves up a run. Then probably justin Wally

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 4>instead of being your nickel, maybe he goes outside. He

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 4>had a great pick six yesterday, and they thought he

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 4>was gonna start outside last year, so that would work.

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 4>But then you're gonna put Cam Taylor Britt either inside

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 4>or outside, and he's gonna miss the first game when

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.359
<v Speaker 4>you lose again. This is doctor rich von Turry. All

0:46:55.400 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 4>the time football the NFL comes down to how good

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 4>are your top ten or twelve guys as opposed to

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 4>the other team's top ten or twelve guys. Yeah, and

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 4>when you take a Mooney Ward out of there, it

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 4>it just weakens you. It just it for It's like

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 4>again not to go about to Keenan Allen, but when

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 4>you bring him in, all of a sudden, the guys,

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 4>the guys who are like fours, Ashton, Doolan and Treadwell,

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 4>they were going to be threes. But now Keenan Allen

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 4>lets those guys go back to really be what they are.

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 4>And that was Mooney Ward. If he's out for any

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 4>length of time, which we'll see, it moves everybody up,

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 4>and it jockeys around other guys to where instead of

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 4>being a backup or the fourth corner, than he's your

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.799
<v Speaker 4>third corner. And it just MUCKs things up.

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Mike Chappel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine with us.

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 3>How concerned are you about the ward situation right now?

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 4>Probably more so than I am Pierce. So you know,

0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where you put him. Whether Pierce is

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 4>a five and when he's a seven. Yeah, I don't know.

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 4>When you're not practicing, there's a concern. When you're one

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 4>of the top players and you're not practicing, it's concerned.

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 4>When it's a back, it's a real concern. That's why

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm so impressed by Buck. You had him on. Yeah,

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 4>I've had that my mind's lower back, and I'm still

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 4>not over it. The fact that he came out here

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 4>after herniated disk in his upper neck and play a

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 4>man's game is amazing.

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I I asked him this because I was curious about

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the answer. When you've accomplished so much in all levels,

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you have a family, you like to be around, right,

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to do a lot of things, and you

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>want to try to maintain a.

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Level of post career health. I didn't mention making all

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 3>the money, but that stands to reason. He's made all

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 3>the money. Well, he's made all the money.

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>How difficult that is to come back when you have

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:58.320
<v Speaker 1>an injury of that nature. And it comes down to,

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>as he explained it, that you of the challenge of

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:02.760
<v Speaker 1>wanting to compete.

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he was very upfront with us, whether it

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 4>was in June or whatever. Maybe maybe it was in January,

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.399
<v Speaker 4>he said. He said he had some dark moments when

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 4>you're thinking about that, because you're thinking about, you know,

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 4>you played this game for twelve fourteen years. If you're

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 4>extremely lucky, but then you then you get the rest

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 4>of your life.

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 3>He said.

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 4>After he had that surgery, he couldn't even lift his

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 4>kids for several weeks. So, but that tells you how

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 4>these guys are wired. It does. And he whenever I've

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.359
<v Speaker 4>mentioned this before, and I mean it, whenever you hear

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 4>Carl Orsay, Gordon or Chris Padder talk about horseshoe guys,

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 4>that that's what they're talking about. They're talking about that

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 4>kind of a guy. I still would like to know

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 4>in one of his private moments, why he's still here.

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Why didn't he try to jump ship and go somewhere

0:49:55.840 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 4>he's lost, He's lost, like I guess a ten and

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 4>focused nationally because he's played in a market that hasn't

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 4>been very successful. He goes somewhere else, and people follow

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 4>over themselves because he's still an elite player. But I

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 4>like Buck. It's his last year here under contract. If

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:17.279
<v Speaker 4>he goes back and play as well, maybe resigning again.

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 3>One of the things we.

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:22.919
<v Speaker 1>Talked about was how college athletics is now, and I said,

0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's so dramatically different than when you were

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at Oregon. I said, if nil money, would that supersede

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 1>in this case, legacy at Oregon? And he mentioned, you know,

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I would choose legacy at Oregon over making

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>money and bouncing around in all places in college athletic.

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 4>That's what I say. It's hockey, but you know, a

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 4>horseshoe guy, that's what you want. You know again, could

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.800
<v Speaker 4>he have made more money elsewhere? Maybe? I don't know

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 4>if he could have made more money elsewhere here because

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 4>they've made him pretty good, but he could have chased more,

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, all pros and all that kind and maybe

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 4>a super Bowl elsewhere. But I think some guys, and

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 4>there's not a lot of them that they it means

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 4>something to know I'm going to finish it here. I mean,

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 4>we've been building something that's taken longer that they wanted.

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 4>But he wants to build something here. He wants to

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 4>be part of. If they get over the hump this year,

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.800
<v Speaker 4>he wants to be part of that. And it's funny

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 4>now when they have the draft, the first check round pick.

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 4>He's played three places. It's hard to keep track of

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 4>these guys.

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.240
<v Speaker 3>You know what you have in him when he's healthy.

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>We have seen and know what we have in the

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 1>past at Sina Grove at Ohio State, and I guess

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 1>we've seen it so far with Cayden Curry. What's been

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>your impression on the rookie from Sina Grove from what

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you witnessed so far.

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 4>I hope they find a place for him by the

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:50.320
<v Speaker 4>active roster as opposed to the practice squad. The George

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 4>Gumps guy, they like him as well. And I think

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 4>if you put either pass rusher on your practice squad,

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 4>you're probably gonna lose him, probably uh. And it'll be

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 4>some special teams they'll be They'll be like Robert Mathis

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 4>as a rookie and trying having to make your mark

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:10.319
<v Speaker 4>on special teams and then you earn reps, but it's

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 4>you're really you really hate to get rid of a

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 4>potential pass rusher because they're just hard to find. It's

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 4>gonna be the it's gonna be dependent on how the

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 4>position breaks down. One thing that's gonna help him is

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:27.400
<v Speaker 4>I guess they keep four linebackers. If I gave you

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.800
<v Speaker 4>one hundred dollars for every time they've got three linebackers

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 4>on the field, you might have one hundred dollars, right right,

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:36.319
<v Speaker 4>So so, but but but again, I like, you see

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 4>the potential and what he's done when when he was

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 4>out there in the fourth, third, and fourth quarter against

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 4>guys that it was on the level on the depth chart.

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 4>But he's not dominating. But but but he's being successful

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:50.759
<v Speaker 4>against them. That's what you want. If you're gonna play

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 4>against those guys your own level, then be the guy

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 4>that people notice.

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Can't see anything I guess dramatic in practice. But is

0:52:58.640 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 3>it just me?

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Or I have we not heard out to Latsu's name

0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>at all? Oh, he's had a good camp. Is that

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 1>why we haven't heard his name at all?

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? This is one of those that when you're watching

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 4>the seven on seven, eleven on eleven on eleven, you

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:13.680
<v Speaker 4>know we got Daniel Jones eleven of thirteen and in

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 4>the defenses with coaches just think, well, you know LATCHI

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 4>would have had a sack here, would have had a

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:19.919
<v Speaker 4>sack here. I think we talked to Louis and Rumo

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.359
<v Speaker 4>next week and I want to ask him through their

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 4>tapes had they charged how many sacks Lots who would

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 4>have had At this point, he's had a good camp.

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 4>He's got it's you know so what. He had a

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 4>good camp last year. He's got to do it in

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:38.319
<v Speaker 4>the season. They've put a ton of pressure on him

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 4>to be the guy. There's no right now, there's no sidekick,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no there's no MATHISTAFREENI not that I'm saying Lots

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<v Speaker 4>is freeie, but right now he's the guy, and that

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<v Speaker 4>that that makes things tougher on him because you can

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<v Speaker 4>slide your protection to him. But uh, I think he's

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<v Speaker 4>had a very good camp. It's very hard when you're

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<v Speaker 4>at all not allowed to smack quarterbacks to pull up

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<v Speaker 4>and say, well, I got him right. I think he's

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<v Speaker 4>I don't worry about him until the season starts to

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<v Speaker 4>see that these near misses turn into hits.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>he is right here with us. Anybody surprisingly on the

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<v Speaker 1>cut line here No, what's.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to be interesting is Keenan Allen was always worn

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<v Speaker 4>number thirteen. Yeah, now he's wearing ten, which I had

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<v Speaker 4>flashbacks to ad Mitchell. But we asked him about approaching

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<v Speaker 4>tread well and he said, he said if he's a veteran,

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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't want to create any waves. So we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see if thirteen is available on cut day or not.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but no, not really, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he say it that way. We'll see if thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>is available on cut No. I said, oh, you're saying no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he said. I thought you were saying, like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Please, folks. That was me.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that was me.

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<v Speaker 4>That wasn't Keenan Allen saying yeah, I'll wait a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of weeks to get out. Okay, but but no one

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<v Speaker 4>really Jalen Jones hasn't really done a lot. Remember he

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<v Speaker 4>started was at thirty four to thirty seven games, and

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<v Speaker 4>last year he hardly got on the field. And whenever

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<v Speaker 4>they have the development mental period out here with the

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<v Speaker 4>younger players where they really hit people, he's out there.

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<v Speaker 4>So what people need to do is watch the fourth

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<v Speaker 4>quarter and guys that are out there, they're fighting for

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<v Speaker 4>that last couple of spots, which is not which is

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<v Speaker 4>great for them to still be fighting, but at some point,

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<v Speaker 4>these rosters, these coaches and the personnel guys for the

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<v Speaker 4>most part, know who they're keeping and who they're not keeping.

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<v Speaker 1>And they shout out to Steve Girardi by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>because we had to get my guys right time to

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<v Speaker 1>see the Seager tribute. Yep, Ay Connor Prairie right there,

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<v Speaker 1>outstanding time. I appreciate all you do for the station.

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<v Speaker 4>Pal.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>he is right there.