1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: So they're identical twins. They're prominent political figures in Central Indiana, 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: and they're exact opposites politically. Let's make some sense of 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: all of that. It's Kennel and Casey Show. I'm Rob 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: joined in studio by Nick and Nathan robertson. This is 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: a fascinating story. I'm looking at both of you, guys. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm totally confused at who's who. Nick. I'll start with you. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: You are a member, a Democrat member of the Indianapolis 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: City County Council at twenty five years old, which is amazing. 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't even think I can remember where I was 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: at twenty five years old. But you are a staunch believer. 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: You are a loyal Democrat of the Indianapolis City County Council. 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: More or less. There are things I disagree with, but 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm a Democrat. 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I'm going to turn my right here 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the same guy, only it's a 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: different guy, Nathan Roberts who is the most loyal, hardcore 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Trump supporter imaginable. And you have started your own nonprofit 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: devoted to mass getting rid of massive legal immigration in 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: the United States. Save Heritage Indiana. 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely you will not see me make any bones about it. 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: I'm a loyal, die hired Republican one hundred percent. 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: This is the most fascinating Storry, and you guys have 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: been getting so much publicity about this. By the way, 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: have you guys ever pretended to be the other one? 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: Isn't that an identical twins thing? Like? Have you ever Nick? 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Have you ever pretended to be Nathan or Nathan Nick? 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Just to like your parents? Surely have never fallen for that, right. 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: They never fall for that. 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: We had an old grandfather who would get us mixed up, 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: but outside of that, everybody's been able to tell us apart. 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: I always wanted to switch up in school, but Nick 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: such a rule follower because he's a Democrat, and he 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: would say that would get us in trouble, so he 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: never let us switch, even though I wanted to. 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is fascinating me because you guys, like 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: I said, you're identical twins. Twenty five years old, you're 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: both now prominent people in the Indianapolis political scene, both 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: with your time on the council, Nick and Nathan with 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 1: your Save Heritage Indiana and the attention that that's getting. 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: When did you guys like, when did you figure out 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: we see the world so differently? Nick? And I've got it. 42 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't like who you are now, because no, I 43 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: do you sound the same? You look the same, Nick? 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, So I think we really realized in 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: high school. But even dating back to middle school. There 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: was a project though I did recently and I was 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: looking back at it and I read that I called 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: myself the Democrat. 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: That's sounds like a long time ago, but when we were 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: as young as you guys, like ten years ago, well, twelve. 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: Thirteen years ago, twelve thirteen years ago, and he called 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: himself the Republican twin. But really I would say it 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: was twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. 54 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: At the time. 55 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: We were both turning into political junkies. We were reading 56 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: and watching the news NonStop, and I remember, you know, 57 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: Trump going down the Gold escalators and I remember thinking, man, 58 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: this guy. 59 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: Is such an idiot. Whoever over the sky? 60 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: And my brother was like, he'd be the best president ever. 61 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 62 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: Our savior? 63 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: He'd be our savior. And from there it just naturally evolved. 64 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: And that's been over a decade since then, right, and 65 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: really nothing as much has changed. You know, I've always 66 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: been more democratic, he's been more Republican, and yeah, it's 67 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: really been since then. I'm a Republican, but I'll say 68 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: I'm not an air Culcombe Republican. 69 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a good person. 70 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one outside the Governor's mansion. It was April 71 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. I was one of like forty people who 72 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: were the Petri dish by the youngest person of human 73 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: was at the anti COVID lockdown rally. I had just 74 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: signed which said I want a haircut, and Nick took 75 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: a picture of it and posted it and it was 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: super viral. But I was at that one, and I 77 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: was at the twenty twenty one rally at the State 78 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: House because almost got fired from my job for not 79 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: getting the vaccine. 80 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so do you guys when you were when you 81 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: were figuring out where you're at on the spectrum, did 82 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: you guys have conversations about this? I mean, brothers hates 83 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: each other, tease each other. But it's so bizarre of 84 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: two kids who come in the same household at such 85 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: a young age to have different views, Like, how did 86 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: you work through this? We've you're Nathan by the way, 87 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: She pointed out out, Yeah. 88 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: The noises are probably hard to tell apart for the 89 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: specially on the radio. 90 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: No, we've honestly never ever, ever, I don't think I 91 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: had a heat of discussion about politics. 92 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: We talked about politics all the time too, Never we've 93 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: never I don't think we've ever had like a thing 94 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: where it's like, no, this is like you need to change. 95 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever had that. 96 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: Because we both respect each other and he's a smart Democrat. 97 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: Shockingly they exist. I think I'm a smart Republican. 98 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: It's like you're one of the ones who wanted to 99 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: pull the plug on hog set, right, Like you're that 100 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: kind of democrat. 101 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are times you have to have 102 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: you have to push back, but I would go all 103 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: the way on that. Okay, so I'm definitely more of 104 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: a moderate Democrat. 105 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: What did what did your did your parents like intervene 106 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: in this? Were they taking sides? Like? What was it 107 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: like for you guys as you're hitting your teenage years? 108 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: And again, it's like not even that brothers have different 109 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: political opinions, it's you're twins. Like it's like looking at 110 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: the same person who's just saying remarkably different things. 111 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think our family is a good microcosm of 112 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: everything because really, and my brother probably agrees this, we 113 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: have everything in our family. 114 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: By the way, this is Nick talking. 115 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: We have progressive Democrats, moderate Democrat. It's never Trump, Republicans, 116 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: conservative Republicans, mag Republicans, like, we have everything just to 117 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: our immediate family. Right. So, I think from the time 118 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: we were young, we don't not come we do not 119 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: come from a political family necessarily being in politics. But 120 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: everyone is interesting politics, which I think there was always 121 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: interesting dialogue at the kitchen table for dinner, which I 122 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: think lends well to having disagreements and respect, right, I 123 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: think it was a lot of it for us. I 124 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't say our family intervened. There are times where my 125 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: grandparents like, you need to we have an intervention with Nate. 126 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: Nate's gone off the deep end. But I'm sure the 127 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: other Republicans in my family have said the same about me. 128 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: Socause I was thinking, like, your thing this kind of disappointing. 129 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, your Thanksgivings and your Christmas are 130 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: gonna be wild, like people throwing things at each other. 131 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: The comment we always get on everything every CNN art 132 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: was like that Thanksgiving dinner must be crazy. Politics was 133 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: not brought up at Thanksgiving one single time. 134 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: Wild Because like at my at at my everything that 135 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I go to, and my wife has a big family, 136 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: everybody just wants to talk about politics, and they're always like, 137 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: I know, this is the last thing you want to 138 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: talk about, and then they proceed to make me talk 139 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: about it for the entire time. But you're saying with you, guys, 140 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: like even though this is your world now, really it doesn't. 141 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't come up that much. 142 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: I think part of it is the fact that we 143 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: know that if we enter Thanksgiving, theirs all kinds of beliefs, right, 144 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: And like I'll give an example, my great grandmother. She's 145 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: the sweetest human alive. She is very much Republican, right, 146 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: And I just want to bring it up. 147 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: Out of respect for her. 148 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to ruin the vibe completely and make 149 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: it so awkward every dinner, right, Like you want to 150 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: have respect. 151 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: And I think when you know people are going to. 152 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: Disagree, it's a lot harder to always bring it up 153 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: and be the perse threat. 154 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: Interject politics and everything. 155 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: But also I'll say I don't bring up politics anymore 156 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: I've warned that lesson. But when I was fifteen and sixteen, 157 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: I was the number one person. I would not be 158 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: a politics I'd bring up the most controversial stuff to 159 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: try to get the juices of the room. 160 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: Yes see, he was me. I was that way when 161 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: I was And then you'll you'll phase out of that 162 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: and realize it just gets you heartache and the reward 163 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: for it. Nick and Nathan Roberts are our guests. They're 164 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: identical twins. As a member of the Indianapolis City County Council, 165 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: He's Democrat. Nathan has started a very now prominent group 166 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Save Heritage Indiana, devoted to getting rid of illegal immigration 167 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: in our state and across the country. And I like, national, 168 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: is it weird to you guys that people are so 169 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: interested in this? I mean you get it right, Like 170 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: this is like it's like going to the something you 171 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: see at the circus, right, see the same guy with 172 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: two different opinions. I mean, national publications have picked up 173 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: on this story. 174 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: It's very weird. I mean, just tomorrow that Washington pos 175 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: is coming here and call us around for the day. 176 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a day in the life. Like, yeah, 177 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: that's crazy, Like we're not that important. I've been on 178 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: Newsmax four times now and. 179 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: He's already passed me at twenty five. Right. 180 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: But I think it's surreal, obviously just for our entire lives, 181 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: that it's now national. This has been what we've dealt with, 182 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: Like everyone's always thought it was funny, but now that 183 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: we're both doing our own thing and right parties, it's 184 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: obviously more of a story. I think part of it 185 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: is I've not seen how we were looking at it. 186 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: I've never seen we've done research identical twins being involved 187 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: politics and different parties. It's the first time it's ever 188 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: happened as far as I know. There's a novelty to 189 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: it that's fascinating. Like these people are so interested. 190 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: Nathan did when Nick was elected, did you help him? 191 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: You know? 192 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: Unfortunately you vote for him? Okay? 193 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: So he called in a favor. He was like, please 194 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: not campaign. He tried to get me to campaign for 195 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm not doing that. 196 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: He tried. 197 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: He got me to stand outside the voter's place and 198 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: then kind of be like, oh, vote for Nick Roberts 199 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: and you know what, he said, this might get him 200 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: in trouble. But he was like, don't say you're me. 201 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: But if people happened to think that you're me, are 202 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: meeting you. 203 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: Just like go along, just go along with it. Yeah, 204 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: so i'ld be like, yeah, vote for Nick Roberts. And 205 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: I did vote for him. I'll just leave it. 206 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: I voted for him. 207 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: It's the only Democratic I think I've ever voted for 208 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: my life. But I did vote for him. 209 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So at twenty five being a member of the 210 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: Indianapoli City County Council, because I was. I was twenty 211 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: seven when I was elected, and I thought I was 212 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: like the coolest thing ever. And you're how old were 213 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: you when you got elect I. 214 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: Was twenty three. Yeah, I started running at twenty one. 215 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: How do you even pull that off? 216 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: Like door knocking raising money? 217 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: People look at you and go get off my property, 218 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Like what are you? 219 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: What are you selling? 220 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? Like the soun like what I mean, that's pretty 221 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: amazing at twenty one years old to be able to 222 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: pull up Like how did you do that? Yeah? 223 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, just it's a cliche of working hard, 224 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: door knocking, raising money. That's what all it took, right, 225 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: you know? I think that's I look younger than I 226 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: am too, So I had that additional I. 227 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Still when I first saw you, I was like, we 228 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: have a twelve year old on the city County council. 229 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: That's that's amazing, No, I mean, I just think that's 230 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: incredible that you were willing to do that, and you 231 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: presented yourself in a way that people take took you seriously. 232 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: It was intentional. It was very intentional, right, Like, I 233 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: did not lean into kind of the kookie stuff like this. 234 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: I would not have made this story two years. 235 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: He's pointing at his brother, by the way. 236 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but now, but now that I'm already in office, 237 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: I can kind of be a little bit more fun 238 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: with things. And also too, we had the benefit We've 239 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: lived in our entire lives in the district that I 240 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: ran in, Right, I had that kind of home talent 241 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: advantage being able to really campaign and hit the payment hard. 242 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been great, honestly to yourself. 243 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: They excelling himself short. 244 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: He was one of the biggest overperformers for a Democrat 245 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: on the city council. 246 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: He was. 247 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: That's and you know, I'm lucky because every single Republican 248 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: I talked to nine They're like, I hate the Democrats whatever, 249 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: But your brother is one of the good. Yes, every 250 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: single person says that, and I don't know. I doubt 251 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: he says gets that about me. I do not, but 252 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: I do, which shows you a little bit of how 253 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: Republicans actors Democrats. Republicans are always like, oh, you know, 254 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: your brother's nice, and the Democrats. 255 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: Like, your brother's a fascist. 256 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: So tell me about Save Heritage Indiana because one of 257 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: the reasons this made news is your group. You know, 258 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you put this out there right, It's not 259 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: just sort of I'm a Republican. You've taken a very 260 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: strong position on illegal immigration. Tell us about Save Heritage Indianaeah. 261 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: We supported immigration moratorium, immigration pause thirty years, no doubt 262 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: about it. It with me and my friend. His name 263 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: is Daniel Point Juror's my co founder. He ran a 264 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: separate nonprofit group in the past. But we realized there's 265 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 3: groups for everything at the state House, dogs cats, healthcare, 266 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: pro development, anti development, anti abortion, pro abortion, but there's 267 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: nothing against the illegal immigration. In fact, there's one hundred 268 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: full time employees for groups like Exodus Refugee in the 269 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: Indiana Latina Institute that work in the opposite direction, and 270 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: Indiana is a deep red state, and all it takes 271 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: is one Democratic president to get back in and simply 272 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: not enforce the laws anymore. 273 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: And it's like. 274 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: States are totally helpless to have like common sense immigration laws. 275 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: So we think there's a huge opening. There was a 276 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: survey done at America Fest, which is like the TPUSA 277 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: event they just did in Arizona, of young conservatives. An 278 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: eighty nine point five percent of the attendees said they 279 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: support immigration moratorium wholesale. 280 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: This is fat, Like I still just like I keep 281 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: turning back and forth. I wish people could see this 282 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: right now, because it's just like you're looking at the 283 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: same person now you are. There is just enough difference 284 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: right where some twins are so identical that they're there's 285 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: no way to tell them about like there's a birthmark 286 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: or something. You guys are a little bit different. 287 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: Who know us like almost never, yeah, you get us 288 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: mixed up unless they're like old basically, but anyone under the. 289 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: Age of seventy like never ever ever gets as mixed. 290 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: And it helps telling us how we're seeing how we're 291 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: dressed compared to each other. 292 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. 293 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: My father's pretending like he lives in rural in the Lumberjacks. Yeah, Jack, Yeah, man, 294 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: I love this story. I think you guys, I think 295 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: it's great for dialogue. I think it's great that you guys. 296 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: Can show that you can still love each other even 297 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: with different political beliefs. And I just think this is 298 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: such a cool story. And then so thanks for coming in. 299 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: It's been in a few moments with us Sharon being 300 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: identical twins with polar opposite political views. Thanks guys. 301 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: Thanks. 302 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's Kenilly Casey Show ninety three WIBC.