WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Geoff Collins Interview 

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<v Speaker 1>Our next guest, though, is here to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>college football side of things. Knows the ACC, coached in

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<v Speaker 1>it for years, and now is doing great video content

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<v Speaker 1>out there. He is at Coach Collins, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to find him on Instagram or on Twitter slash X.

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<v Speaker 1>And Coach Jeff Collins joins us here to talk ball

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<v Speaker 1>on the Mac and Bone Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach, what's going on? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Living the dream. I appreciate you guys having me on again, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did I even ask, Coach?

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<v Speaker 1>Your attitude right now, why did I even ask you?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk through some of this stuff. The Miami-Carolina game

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<v Speaker 1>was an amazing game. I was so impressed that Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>and Billy Edwards kept coming back and matching them and

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<v Speaker 1>making plays.

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<v Speaker 2>Did that, what did you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Did that game tell us, you know, it had to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you some good things I would think about Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Miami vulnerable on the pass defense side? What did

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<v Speaker 1>you make of that game?

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<v Speaker 3>Every single weekend of college football is just nuts nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>You never know if Miami fell into the trap of

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<v Speaker 3>looking ahead to the following week's huge battle in South Bend.

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<v Speaker 3>College game day is going to be there. Or if

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<v Speaker 3>just North Carolina came out on fire offensively and played

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<v Speaker 3>a great game against what is really one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best defenses in the country, Miami. So hats off to

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Petrino and the offense. And that quarterback is just

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<v Speaker 3>a warrior, tough dude. And then, you know, I know

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of conversation about the referees and all

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<v Speaker 3>those things on the back-to-back onside kicks. And when you

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<v Speaker 3>go back and watch it, because I've been a head coach,

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<v Speaker 3>by the letter of the law, they were accurate calls.

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<v Speaker 3>but I could understand the consternation and the conversation surrounding,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, being that dialed in by the referees,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, make those two critical calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The fact it was Miami coach might've got mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>a few times on the show today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach, how much progress have you seen from the heels

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<v Speaker 4>from last year to this year, year two under Belichick?

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<v Speaker 4>And even though they lost, how much is this program

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<v Speaker 4>coming along under Belichick?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's obviously never moral victories. But when you're building something,

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<v Speaker 3>last year was it is what it was, right? Don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to revisit that. But this year's team seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be playing a more cohesive brand of football. They look

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<v Speaker 3>aligned on the coaching staff and the players. And the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest takeaway for me is the defensive front for Carolina

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<v Speaker 3>is That's been the biggest area of growth. Well, they're

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<v Speaker 3>in the tight end room. That tight end room is special.

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<v Speaker 3>But the D-line and the tight ends, there's been noticeable

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<v Speaker 3>improvements at those two positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach, I asked about Miami's past defense, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how crazy it is. Am I just nitpicking?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, their offense might be able to outscore anybody

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<v Speaker 1>they play in the country, but I saw Florida State

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pass the ball on them, now Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>with Billy Edwards. Am I just nitpicking too much if

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<v Speaker 1>I start pointing that out, or do you feel like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be something in a playoff game that could

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<v Speaker 1>cost them?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, it could cost them this coming up week.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the war with Corey Heatherman and their defensive staff,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think they lost two first-rounders on that defensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>And the best way to cover people is to get

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<v Speaker 3>after the quarterback. And they're not doing that as well

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<v Speaker 3>as they were the year before, and they're having to

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<v Speaker 3>put DBs in more compromising positions by blitzing and all

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<v Speaker 3>these other things. that last year they could just rush four,

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<v Speaker 3>put doubles, and play cover two on the back end

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<v Speaker 3>and still get sacks and great coverage. Now they're having

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<v Speaker 3>to load the box more, put the DBs in more

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<v Speaker 3>disadvantageous positions, and I think they've been getting exposed at

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<v Speaker 3>times this season.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach, Wake Forest isn't just winning games. They are rolling

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<v Speaker 4>now in dominant fashion. We talk a lot about Hernandez

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<v Speaker 4>and Gio Lopez in the offense, but how impressed have

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<v Speaker 4>you been with Wake Forest defensively, and how are they

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<v Speaker 4>doing it on that side of the ball?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like to toot my own horn, but I

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<v Speaker 3>did a 30-camp road trip in preseason camp. And at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of that road trip, I came back, and

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<v Speaker 3>on my first episode of the show, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>Wake Forest has the potential to be scary good. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right. And so that's very rewarding on that end.

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<v Speaker 3>But just I went out to practice in preseason to

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<v Speaker 3>watch Jake Dickert run the program. The length and speed

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<v Speaker 3>they have on the defensive side of the ball is

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<v Speaker 3>ridiculously impressive. And then what they do schematically create problems

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<v Speaker 3>for defenses from an offensive perspective. And they're so aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>and play such good stifling defense on that side of

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<v Speaker 3>the ball. It is just a great brand of football,

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<v Speaker 3>and not enough people are getting to see it and

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<v Speaker 3>recognize it. But hopefully on my show I'll start doing

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<v Speaker 3>some Wake Forest breakdowns because there's so much fun stuff

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about with that team.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man, they are so much fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right, both sides of the ball, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>that defensive front getting after it or just the explosive

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<v Speaker 1>offense run by Gio Lopez. We're talking to Coach Jeff Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>who is joining us here on the show. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you– how to get ahold of all that

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<v Speaker 1>great content. He's doing a lot of great videos and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously he knows ball. Obviously he was right about

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<v Speaker 1>Wake Forest. Coach, what do you think about Wake Forest chances?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's hard to read the committee's minds. I

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<v Speaker 1>always fear being here in ACC country that if they can,

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<v Speaker 1>they will err on the side of an SEC school

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<v Speaker 1>with three losses. Does Wake have to beat Miami, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think, to get in? Or do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they could lose to Miami a second time? and still

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<v Speaker 1>make it with two losses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I've got to imagine, you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>in the ACC for a long time. I've been in

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<v Speaker 3>the SEC for a long time. But you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>get two ACC schools in. You've got to, right? And

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<v Speaker 3>I think, in my opinion, and this was even before

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<v Speaker 3>SMU lost to Syracuse, I said the two best teams

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<v Speaker 3>are Miami and then Wake Forest. And then I just

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<v Speaker 3>think that if Jake Dickert gets another chance at Miami

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<v Speaker 3>in the championship game, I mean, that's not a gimme

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<v Speaker 3>for the Hurricanes, you know, because Wake Forest will have

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<v Speaker 3>earned their right in that game. They'll be playing with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of confidence. And I think it could be

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<v Speaker 3>very intriguing, that matchup, if it, you know, comes down

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<v Speaker 3>to it. I hope they get in if they're, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>even if they're two losses with both of them being

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<v Speaker 3>in Miami. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach, Duke is now 6-2.

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<v Speaker 4>They are ahead of the pace they were at last

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<v Speaker 4>year with Mensah. What is it about Manny Diaz and

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<v Speaker 4>his fit with Duke that has worked out so well

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<v Speaker 4>for him?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge Manny Diaz fan. He and I are

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<v Speaker 3>very close. I replaced him as defense coordinator at Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he replaced me as the defense coordinator at Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he replaced me as the head coach at Temple

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<v Speaker 3>for 10 days. I think he's just done a I

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<v Speaker 3>just think he's done a phenomenal job with that entire program.

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<v Speaker 3>The unsung hero is Dave Feely. His strength coach is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting him to stay and not go to Texas A &amp;

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<v Speaker 3>M was a huge win that not enough people talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just think the fit of Manny's personality, how

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<v Speaker 3>he's approached this job in this era of college football,

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<v Speaker 3>has been amazing. And what they beat the Boston College 50-2,

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<v Speaker 3>something ridiculous, right? 47-2, yeah. 47-2, right? Never let facts

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<v Speaker 3>get in the way of a good story. I just

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<v Speaker 3>texted him after the game, and I texted Dave Feeley,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just two words. I said, dear Lord,

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<v Speaker 3>just for the performance that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave put on, man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a dominant, great defense, and that's an offense

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<v Speaker 3>that had just hung 49 on Georgia Tech and 404

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<v Speaker 3>yards rushing the week before. And they held them to

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<v Speaker 3>a shutout. And I just thought it was such a

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<v Speaker 3>great performance and a team win. They're scary good down

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<v Speaker 3>the stretch, too.

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<v Speaker 4>Their only two they gave up was off the block PAT.

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>100%.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Coach, I've got to ask you about NC State's situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's twofold. One is I know you coached against

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Doran.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're familiar with his work.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel about them choosing now to go

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<v Speaker 1>a different direction? And then the second part is, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like from all reports that their first choice is

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<v Speaker 1>Phillip Rivers, who only has high school coaching experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder, do you look at that and does

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<v Speaker 2>that bother you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like as someone that has all this head coaching experience,

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<v Speaker 1>And you see them going, you know, they might go

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<v Speaker 1>in that direction. What do you think about those two

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<v Speaker 1>facets of the NC State situation?

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<v Speaker 3>So the first one, I hate it for Dave Dorn

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<v Speaker 3>because he's such a tremendous coach and a tremendous man

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<v Speaker 3>and has done so much for that university. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of my dear older coaches in my career always

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<v Speaker 3>told me that coaches are like office furniture, right? and

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<v Speaker 3>you spend enough time at one place, eventually they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get tired of the office furniture and want to

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<v Speaker 3>bring new office furniture in. And that's just kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>What it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just, you know, he had won so much,

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<v Speaker 3>but then, you know, it had a season or two

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<v Speaker 3>where it wasn't winning as much. They felt it was

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<v Speaker 3>time to make a change, whatever, but tremendous coach. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think, and I did a bit on my

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<v Speaker 3>show this week about interim coaches. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>that performance by the Wolfpack against who did they just

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<v Speaker 3>beat the crap out of cow?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's indicative of– no interim coach is

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<v Speaker 3>going to come in and miraculously turn this thing around.

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<v Speaker 3>What it is is just all of the negativity and

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<v Speaker 3>hot seat talk that's been happening for seven weeks. It

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<v Speaker 3>wears on players. It wears on the team. It wears

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<v Speaker 3>on the staff. And when that pressure is gone– Now

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<v Speaker 3>the kids get to play free and there's no consequences,

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<v Speaker 3>and they go out and play their best ball. And

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<v Speaker 3>you see it every single time that this happens. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's an indictment this new interim coach

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<v Speaker 3>came in and waved a magic wand and fixed everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think it's hard for Phillip Rivers to

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<v Speaker 3>be a high school coach and then go be a

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<v Speaker 3>power forward. This is a power forward job. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not just a starter college coaching job. We're in the triangle.

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<v Speaker 3>We're one of four teams in the ACC that's in

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<v Speaker 3>this great state. It's a real big-time job. The thing

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<v Speaker 3>that if they do go that direction, better surround him

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<v Speaker 3>with phenomenal assistants, phenomenal general manager, offensive coordinators and defensive

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<v Speaker 3>coordinators that have head coaching experience to kind of guide

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<v Speaker 3>Phillip Rivers through all of the landmines that exist in

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<v Speaker 3>this day and age of college football. And there are

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<v Speaker 3>a ton. So it's not going to be an easy

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<v Speaker 3>learning curve unless you surround him with sound, wise advisors

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<v Speaker 3>and people who have been through the wars and get it.

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<v Speaker 3>and then he can use his personality and his offensive

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<v Speaker 3>expertise and fundraising. He'll be great at that. But you

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<v Speaker 3>better have some real dudes in that building with him.

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<v Speaker 2>That staff is important.

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<v Speaker 1>If they do make that move, that's a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a point. By the way, check out Coach's YouTube content

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<v Speaker 1>on his YouTube channel, at Coach Collins Show. There's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>about Notre Dame. There's stuff about Georgia, Utah. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want everybody to think it's just ACC. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, and it's great content. You present it well, Coach.

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<v Speaker 1>You present it with good personality, and obviously you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us, Coach. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime, just next time, just say, hey, coach, here's the time,

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<v Speaker 3>hop on, and you got me.