1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Live from the heart Bland and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: So President Trump said something that had me shaking my 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: head in agreement that we're not quite sure yet how 5 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: the midterms are going to go because we cannot fully 6 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: comprehend how the voter is going to accept things, especially when. 7 00:00:53,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: It comes to the economics. 8 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: It comes to the economics, how are people going to 9 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: look at the election? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good 10 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything I do at Tony 11 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: Katz dot com right now not well. Midterms if I 12 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: held today, Republicans lose, and they lose. 13 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: In large, large, large measure. That's fact. 14 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: If it's about the economy, stupid, it is what it is, 15 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: what it is. No one sees the prices is going down. 16 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 2: No one sees the value proposition going up just yet. 17 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: And I say this as a man who fully understands 18 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: I'm better on Donald Trump in office than Joe Biden 19 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: or Kamala Harrison office any day of the week, and 20 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: twice on Sunday. I don't regret my vote for a 21 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: single second, even when the President does things I find 22 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: despicable stupid, because I know it's him, not some cabal 23 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: actually running the country without him, as what happens with 24 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Joe Biden and those people want to teach us about 25 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: morality and decency, Sit down, people to judge and be quiet. 26 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take lessons from Kamala Harris, from Anthony Blincoln. 27 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, not a chance. 28 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: MSNBC sorry, MS now gonna lecture to me about how 29 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: to be a good person. 30 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 3: No, but when I see Trump failing, I'll damn well 31 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: say so. 32 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: I have no interest in pretending something is smart when 33 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: it's not smart. This was unbelievably honest, unbelievably so. 34 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: It's an interview and Wall Street Journal has this story. 35 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: He's saying that the efforts to secure investments in the 36 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: US haven't fully taken effect yet. Well, I know somebody 37 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: who's been saying this, and that's somebody is me. It 38 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: has been us, It has been we. We have been 39 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: the ones engaged in this conversation. President Trump was there 40 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: standing next to the First Lady and he's there, I 41 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: believe that, at the White House and speaking about tariffs to. 42 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: An extent, because without the November fifth election, you would 43 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: have had a president that didn't have the courage to 44 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: use tariffs the way they should be used. And because 45 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: of the tariffs, we've taken in more than eighteen Think 46 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: of this, eighteen trillion dollars has never been anything like it. 47 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: As an example, the previous administration, Sleepy Joe Biden, took 48 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: in less than one trillion in four years. We took 49 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: in more than eighteen trillion in ten months. I'd say 50 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: that's pretty good, right, I'd say that's very good. 51 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: And if you go back, if. 52 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: You go back into history, there's never been a country 53 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: that's taken in more than three trillion dollars. 54 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: Now, he is not talking about the tariffs. He's talking 55 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: about the investment, and his argument is that the tariffs 56 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: have allowed for the deals to be reshaped and for 57 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: this investment to be made. But in this interview, because 58 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: the taxes, of course, the fact and the tariffs have 59 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: brought in money. 60 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: But it's our money. It's our money. 61 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: We're paying it, he discusses in this interview, and it 62 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: admits that the money from the investments. 63 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: Has not yet hit the ground. 64 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: When the investment hits the ground, you will see a result, 65 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: and you will see the growth. This has been our argument. 66 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: Money promised different than money deployed. It's like when a 67 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: nation says we're gonna buy billions of dollars worth of 68 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: American beef. Saying so doesn't mean anything. Buying the American beef, 69 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: writing the check, the check clearing, that means a whole bunch. 70 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: That's the story, and that is why people do not 71 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: yet feel anything in terms of relief. 72 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: Scott Besson's who. 73 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: I was told listen, I would love to have the 74 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: conversation with the secretary. We should reach out to him 75 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: and do all that. He heard me on Sean Spicer's 76 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: show say that we're not doing a good enough job 77 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: telling this story. And from what I hear, he was 78 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: not thrilled. You know what I've noticed since then, and no, 79 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: I don't. 80 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: Take credit for it. He's telling the story. 81 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: Besont is doing an outrageously good job of explaining, here's 82 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: what we're doing, here's what's coming, here's what's going, and 83 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: here's where the result's going to be. The result is 84 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: going to be this, this, and this. So, for example, 85 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: he's doing a very very good job about the one 86 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: big beautiful bill. Most people don't know that the one 87 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: big beautiful bill that got passed in July, but that 88 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: did not at all. 89 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: Have any effect on our economy. 90 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: And the reason it didn't have an effect on the 91 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: economy is because, well it doesn't go into effect until 92 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: January of twenty six. 93 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 5: To closer border that two million people have gone home. 94 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 5: So check an immigration. Wine market had the best year 95 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 5: of had since twenty twenty. Interest rates are down, mortgage 96 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 5: rates are down. We're starting to see wipe in the 97 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 5: housing market, and rental rates are down about five percent. 98 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: I exixt will be down to ten or fifteen from 99 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 5: the peak, and then three inflation, we're working on that. 100 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 5: The energy prices are down. Gas of gasoline naturally now 101 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 5: below three dollars a gallon. It's below two dollars in 102 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 5: a couple of states. So I think we're on a 103 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: very good track on inflation. And I'm also the IRS 104 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 5: Commissioner as well as the Treasury Secretary, and I can 105 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 5: see that the present signature of initiatives in the One 106 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 5: Big Beautiful Bill, and I tell you he fought harder 107 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 5: than anyone for these no tax and tips, no tax 108 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: on the overtime, no text, and solid security auto deductibility. 109 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: That the bill was passed in July, working Americans didn't 110 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 5: change their withholding, so they're going to be getting very 111 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 5: large refunds in the first quarters. 112 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: Now that's the case. 113 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: Good and certainly the thing about cars is really interesting 114 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: that you'll be able to deduct the. 115 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: Interest. 116 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: He's now telling the story, and he has to go 117 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: about doing that more often because Besson's the adult in 118 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: the room. He's very good at this. He has a 119 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: credibility bar none. You absolutely believe him. Even the people 120 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: don't like him, believe him. They don't think that he's 121 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: making it up by any stretch. Now in the comments 122 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: on the live stream, Jack Roe, it takes time to 123 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: reverse catastrophe. Can't just proof prices lower? I agree, but 124 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't shared like that. Our gas prices down. They are, 125 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: but certainly not down in a way that makes people 126 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: feel like, my gosh, things are great because they were 127 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: up so much. Trump's constant argument is that everything is 128 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: so easy to do. But the problem with that is 129 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: that you set the expectations, and is an expectations game. 130 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: It's a total expectations game. You must set them properly. 131 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: You can't say things like, oh, rush, your grand we 132 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: end that on day one and then you get held 133 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: to the ridiculousness of why didn't you handle that on 134 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: day one, I'm gonna bring prices down. Well, egg prices 135 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 2: were up for a while and now they're down, and 136 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: he gets no credit for because there's no real story 137 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: being told about it. Sean wants to know where gas 138 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: prices are down. Well, across the country it was Wait, 139 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: what was the was this for Thanksgiving? It was at 140 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: three dollars a gallon, which was down, which was the 141 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: lowest price within that five year term. It was actually 142 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: tied with the price when Biden was in office, and 143 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: that was the national average. So if it's not down 144 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: specifically in your area, like for example, you might be 145 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: as as you are in Philadelphia. I appreciate you listening 146 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: to the show man, Thank you so much. I'm in Indianapolis. 147 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: Our gas prices aren't great. The reason our gas prices 148 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: aren't great is because even though we're allegedly a Republican state, 149 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: we have garbage gas taxes. 150 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: They're freaking everywhere. 151 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: We have a gas tax on everything all over the place, 152 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: and so therefore we are not a good example where 153 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: prices are. Because the prices aren't we don't get to live. 154 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: Just the prices we have these outrageous taxes. Now, Matt 155 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: will tell you that in the southwest part of Indiana, 156 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: place called Terre Haute, gas prices are down. Nathan is 157 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: in East Tennessee. He's at two thirty four a gall 158 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: You're two thirty four a gallon? All right, East Tennessee. 159 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: Huh, Well, is that like Knoxville. I could sing Rocky 160 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: Top pack the van Producer land and we're moving. 161 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: Hold on, that's just in My family said, hell, no, 162 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: we're happy where we are. Sorry, sorry Tennessee. But did 163 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: I did I tell you I have to make a 164 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: trip to Memphis? Did you know that in Memphis there 165 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: is a barbecue place called King Jerry Lawler's Ribs. King 166 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler's world Famous Barbecue. I got into a political 167 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: conversation with the guy who owns it, and I was like, 168 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: looking at his bio, I don't know who the dude was. 169 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: And he's got a company, he's a holding company. 170 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: One of the things is this King Jerry the Wrestler, 171 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: King Jerry Lawler's Memphis Ribs. I'm like, oh, we're coming, 172 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: and so yeah, right now I'm planning. I'm planning that trip. 173 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: I got. 174 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: I gotta make that happen for sure, because you know 175 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: Ribs and it's it's gonna be Memphis or they're gonna 176 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: be Poork. 177 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: Ribs, don't tell my Rabbi, but I'm still coming, dang it. 178 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: The President engaging this conversation, honestly, is everything, because it 179 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: is the opportunity to reset the conversation that has become 180 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: an insanity regarding the idea of affordability. Everybody wants to 181 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: point to look at how Mamdani won the election in 182 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: New York talking about affordability. That isn't how he won 183 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: the election. It was something he talked about. But in 184 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: a city of eight million people, he got a million votes, 185 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: twenty five percent of the voting electorate showed up two 186 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: million votes cast plus for mayor, he got just over 187 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: a million. He got twelve and a half percent of 188 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: the vote based on an activist, progressive class that showed 189 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: up to vote. 190 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: Now it's a problem. 191 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: Please don't get me wrong, but the idea that the 192 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: afford ability conversation took hold around New York isn't true. 193 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: He squeaked by with just over fifty percent of the vote. 194 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: But if we talk about the generalized costs of things. 195 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: Let's not even talk about food. Let's not talk about gasoline. 196 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk about insurance, health insurance, which is a far 197 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: different thing than healthcare. Let's talk about homeowner's insurance, car insurance. Now, 198 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm told car insurance is going to go down. 199 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet. 200 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: There are a tremendous number of places where the costs 201 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: are too much, and people are saying this is becoming untenable. 202 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it is becoming this is untenable. 203 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: So for President Trump to make the statement that listen, 204 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: we've done this good work and we've got these things together, 205 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: they're just not happening yet, but they will. 206 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: Some people will view that as if excuse. 207 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: Right. Some people will believe that, oh, that's just an excuse. 208 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: I disagree vehemently. Now the question is going to be 209 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: is it too late? But I see this as a 210 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: start of the conversation. I should say it actually started 211 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago. 212 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: This is the start of. 213 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: The recognition of where people are, what is actually happening, 214 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: and the promise of here's what we've done, here's the result. 215 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: If I listen to Besson's. 216 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: If indeed people see refunds of large scale my gosh, 217 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: look we got back. Hey, look at what the one 218 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: big beautiful bill did for you. Hey, look at what 219 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: we're happening here. You can build a momentum conversation on that, 220 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: take the narrative away from the political left, and that 221 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: can bring you success. Which is why I have an 222 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: event that I'm doing January twenty fourth, twenty twenty six, Trump. 223 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: One year later. 224 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: It really is a look back, a look ahead, and 225 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: how we win the midterms. I am now completely focused 226 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: on this in a very very aggressive, aggressive way. When 227 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: I tell you that this is not lost, I mean 228 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: it in every sense of the word. If we were 229 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: at this stage and the Trump team was still not 230 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: learning and listening and recognizing where they made mistakes of 231 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: where to correct, yes, I'd be seriously concerned. I think 232 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: they are. I think it takes time for some other 233 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: people in the influencer class, which is I think a 234 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: nonsense class, and others more time to learn because they're 235 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: two you busy saying everything Trump has done is perfect. 236 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: It isn't. 237 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: Honesty is the better policy here, This is the right move. 238 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: This interview is fascinating. 239 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: Now what you need is results money from the invent 240 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: I spent, the claimed investments, the twenty one trillion dollars 241 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: hitting and people getting jobs, manufacturing growing, and then a 242 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: larger tax return, people getting more money because there's no 243 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: tax on this, that. 244 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: And the other. Even if I disagree with the policy. 245 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: That's something to build on, that's something to grow on, 246 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: and that is where the opportunity is. 247 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: Interesting interview from Trump. 248 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: You can find it over there at tonycats dot com. 249 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: I put up the show sheet every day. Keep it here. 250 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: This is Tony Kats today. 251 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: I have spent as much time as I can staying 252 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: out of talking about Candice OANs, and as of late 253 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: I've been forced to and really had the conversation the 254 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: other day about whether or not I had made a mistake. 255 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: Was I supposed to address her madness earlier? 256 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: And it's it. I can't say that it haunts. I 257 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: think I may have used that expression. 258 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: It's just it's it's one of those things that I 259 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: just aren't I better off ignoring? And I think the 260 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: answer is no, You're not always better off ignoring. You 261 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: should at least be engaged in a recognition and stay 262 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: in saying so. At least I think in my places 263 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: as I do the show Tony Katz Tony Kats Today, 264 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: good to be with you find everything at Tony Katz 265 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: dot com. 266 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: Appreciate it if you do that. Head on over. Well, 267 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: if you're asking, I think. 268 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: Is a gross conspiracist who is very very adept at 269 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: saying nothing to make it sound like it's something, not 270 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: providing the backup to it, and saying things like. 271 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: Just looks a little suspicious. 272 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just suspicious, as if somehow that is in 273 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: and of itself enough to satisfy anybody who is looking 274 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: for I don't know, proof of name the thing. And 275 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: she has been all about Charlie Kirk's assassination inside job. 276 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: His friends had to sign off on getting him killed. 277 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: They they wanted this. It's horrifying stuff. And Candace Owens said, well, 278 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: anytime that Erica Kirk asked me to stop, I'll stop. 279 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: At Erica Kirk was on Fox, she said stop, and 280 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: Candace Owen said, is a I'm more than happy to 281 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: stop lying if you could show me where exactly I'm lying. 282 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: She has no intention of stopping. She's very good at this, 283 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: very good at the at the manipulation and everything else, 284 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: and now they're having a meeting. I think, is that 285 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: happening today? Is that happening today? And and people have 286 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: thoughts on whether or not. 287 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: They shouldn't meet. 288 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: I think that the overarching idea of if Candace thinks, 289 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, if Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, 290 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: thinks that Kansas is going to stop because of a meeting, No, 291 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't believe that will happen either. Do I think 292 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: that the people who say that Kandace will misrepresent the 293 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: meeting have a point? 294 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: Yes? I do. 295 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: Do I think that this is what Candace does. 296 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: Yes, I do. It's only because I don't know her, 297 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: because she's proven. 298 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: It, and I don't know if Erica Kirk will even get. 299 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: The credit for having a meeting to begin with. This 300 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: is Tony Katz. 301 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: Today turns out that everybody's a favorite view host, Sonny 302 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: Hoston hold on this just in she's nobody's favorite host. I, 303 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: for one. 304 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: I'm shocked. She cannot believe that people are so angry. 305 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 6: I used to think that gun violence was just an 306 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 6: American phenomenon, and now we see this sort of anti 307 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 6: Semitic attack in Australia on the first Daydaha, which is 308 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 6: so investing and disturbing. And then you know kids going 309 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 6: to college at Brown in the middle of finals getting murdered. 310 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 6: What are those families went through. I'm just why all 311 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 6: of this sickness and hatred going around the world, not just. 312 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: Maybe you shouldn't have defended all those Columbia students who 313 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: told Jews they can't walk on the campus. Maybe you 314 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: should have stood up on your platform long ago and 315 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: said this is disgusting and you left this stor wrong. 316 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you should admit that Islamists are the enemies of 317 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: Western civilization and all people, and we don't have a 318 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: place for them in society, whether it's in American society, western. 319 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: Civilization, or the globe. And it's us or them. 320 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 2: So we're going to have to fight in order to 321 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: make sure we're free of their radicalness. Possibly, Sonny hosting, 322 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: the world isn't a sweet, loving place. It is a 323 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: place that requires at times force to ensure that the 324 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: true evil doesn't get to. 325 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: Rear its head. And the rest of us are. 326 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: Going to have to deal with an imperfect system that 327 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: does the best it can and gives people the maximum 328 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: amount of liberty. Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, great to 329 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: be with. You find everything at Tony Katz dot com. 330 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: The Brown University shooting that killed two, one of whom 331 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: was the vice president of the College Republicans. College Republicans 332 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: a Brown inside a classroom taught by the same professor. 333 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: Who also teaches Jewish studies. 334 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: So there's a question as to whether or not this 335 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: was targeted, and there isn't an answer yet because they 336 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: had a person. 337 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: Of interest. 338 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: And that person is no longer a person of interest. 339 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 2: That person of interest or the shooter yelled something, how 340 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: do firearim? How a unique characteristic yelled something before the shooting? 341 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: What that is? Oh, they're not gonna tell us. Oh, 342 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: we don't get to know. Oh, you can't know that. 343 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: They've got nine billion security cameras everywhere except on the 344 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: campus of Brown University. 345 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: No one has video of this guy, no one, No 346 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: one has video. 347 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: They've got a video of a guy maybe with him 348 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: walking away. 349 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: By the way, that's a good point Anne about Sonny Houston. 350 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: If you take a look what happened in Australia, you 351 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: can't blame Americans and you can't blame white people. I'm sorry, 352 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: but you have to say it right. She wouldn't just 353 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: say white people, she would say white supremacists. She can't 354 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: blame who she wants to blame. So therefore now she 355 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: doesn't understand and the rest of us do understand about 356 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: Islamist and do understand about people who are violent, and 357 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: do understand that people have been ginned up, like in 358 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: the United States when you keep saying that Trump is 359 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: the enemy of democracy and Trump is a threat, oh 360 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: and a threat to democracy, over and over and over again. 361 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: It was a call for a lone wolf and that's 362 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: what MSNBC did, and that's what cn END did, and 363 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: then someone tried to kill Donald Trump and then tried again. 364 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: Thank goodness, Dot dude never got a shot off at 365 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: mar A Lago. It's the same mathematics that led to 366 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: us the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Undoubtedly, but Sonny Hostin 367 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: is shocked. What is causing this? I am stupefied. I'm 368 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: just stumped. You're not stumped. You just don't want to 369 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: admit what the problem was, or what the problem is, 370 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: what the problem continues to be, and how you deal 371 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: with the problem, And none of it is nice, because 372 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: you can't love your neighbor, and you can't love in 373 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 2: Islam as to the point where they stop. Do you 374 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: think your love means anything compared to their idolatry, to 375 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: their fanaticism. 376 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 3: You think too much of yourself and you think too 377 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: much of love. 378 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: You cannot, as a member of Western civilization, think that 379 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: someone who doesn't believe in Western civilization is going to 380 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: meet with you and understand the guidelines that Western civilization imposes. 381 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: I don't know how you. I do not know how 382 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: you do such a thing. 383 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: So here we are looking at Brown University and realizing 384 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: we've got nothing. 385 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 3: There's no suspect, there's there's nothing to go forward with. 386 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: You have this woman who killed and now they've identified 387 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: the second victim, an eighteen year old they're on a scholarship, 388 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: and Who'sbekistan immigrant came to the United States for a 389 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 2: better life. 390 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: I mean, how are you not horrified? 391 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: No camera has this up, no one's been able to 392 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: get anything. It's it's madness. And then may be in 393 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: the most maddening story of the of the weekend, which 394 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how you rank these things. I put 395 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: Australia maybe higher. Rob Reiner and his wife are murdered 396 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: in their home by their son. Now there's a lot. 397 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: I never paid attention to Rob Reiner's personal life. Rob 398 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 2: Reiner the director, I mean he was the actor, going 399 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: back to All in the Family, but director Spinal Tap, 400 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: Princess Bride, I mean a host of films Rob Reiner did, 401 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: Misery movies that we've watched, and a terrible politics will 402 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: get to. The report was was that two people were 403 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: found dead in Rob Reiner's house, but there was no idea, 404 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: and then that it was Rob Reiner. Then you learned 405 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 2: that his son Nick. His son Nick has a history 406 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: of drug issues, he spent time being homeless, and as 407 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: one story reports, they were at a Christmas. 408 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: Party and they got into a fight. 409 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: I think the Christmas party was being held by Conan O'Brien. 410 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: That's how I had read the story. Now we may 411 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: get more information. It may not have been him. Right now, 412 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: all signs point to the fact that he has got 413 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: a violent, passed, a drug addled past, and he killed 414 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: his parents. That's the story. I can state two things. Clearly, 415 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: Rob Reiner didn't deserve this. I would not have wished 416 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: this on Rob Reiner or his wife. I'm told his 417 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: wife was a photographer who actually took the picture of 418 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: Donald Trump for the cover of his book, The Art 419 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: of the Deal. Someone can double check me on that one. Remember, 420 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was a guy you wanted to be associated 421 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: with until he ran for president. Then they decided to 422 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: lose their minds. And no one had lost their mind 423 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: more than Rob Reiner. Rob Reiner was despicable in his politics, 424 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: hateful and awful and terrible. I do not have a 425 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: kind word for the man. I can argue that he 426 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 2: didn't deserve this. I would not wish this on anybody. 427 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: I think about things like did he watch his son 428 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: kill his wife? Horrifying, horrible. But I put forth to 429 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: you that Rob Ryder engaged in some of the most 430 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: terrific conversations, lies about President Trump, lies about the political right, hateful, 431 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: vile commentaries. He wasn't somebody that I respected. The movies 432 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: are the movies. The man was less than I can 433 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: say that as clear as day. 434 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 3: He's dead. 435 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 6: Move on. 436 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: President Trump did not move. 437 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: On, and this is now a very large talking point. 438 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: President Trump decides to put out a post. The post reads, 439 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: a very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. 440 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: This is President Trump speaking. 441 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling but once very talented 442 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with 443 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: his wife Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused 444 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: others to his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a 445 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: mind crippling disease known as Trump Arrangement syndrome, sometimes referred 446 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: to as TDS. He was known to have driven people 447 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, 448 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump 449 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness and with 450 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: the Golden Age of America upon us perhaps like never before. 451 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: May Rob and Michelle rest in peace. That kids is stupid. 452 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: Now. 453 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: I've already seen people on social media, people I like 454 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: and people I don't know, saying this is fine. Look 455 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: at what Rob Reiner said. Here, Look at what Rob 456 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: Reiner said there. I'm not going to feel bad. I'm 457 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: not going to go weak on this guy. You're all ridiculus. 458 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no no no 459 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: no no. 460 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: The objective is to win. The objective is to win. 461 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: And this now makes everybody talk about this. Charlie Kirk 462 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: was assassinated and the left cheered. Now, not everybody in 463 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: the left cheered, but enough people on the left cheered 464 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: to make everyone go, what the hell is wrong with you? 465 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: Because there's something wrong with them. Well, they said the rules, 466 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna play by them. You want to win? How 467 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: does this help you win? How does this help you 468 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: get anywhere? A mocking of Rob Reiner in this way 469 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: to make it about you. 470 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: His son killed him. It's horrifying. 471 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: And I could speak about Rob Reiner politically easily this 472 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: He is mocking his death, and Americans see it differently. Americans, 473 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna need to win the midterms? What's wrong with you? 474 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: Caroline Levin and Stephen Chung don't know how to tell 475 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: you to sit down and shut up. 476 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: Let me explain this to you, mister president, in a 477 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: way that might make sense. 478 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: You work for me, and I don't give a damn 479 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: about your personality. 480 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: I want to win. Don't make my life difficult. 481 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: Don't have that much opinion, don't have that much personality. 482 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: Don't be too cute by half, lower the taxes, lower 483 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: the cost of groceries, lower the cost of insurance. Keep 484 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: kicking ass on the border, and dear Lord, we can win. 485 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: That's the goal. That's the job. Keep the people who 486 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: want to mutilate children under the guys of gender firming 487 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: care out of power, that's the goal. Don't make my 488 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: life difficult. Can't you just do the goal? Can't you 489 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: just do the thing? Just do the thing. 490 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: So, yeah, this is gross, this is stupid. 491 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: It is it is what it is, what it is, 492 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: And I've got people from Magaville defending it. Yeah, but 493 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: Reiner said, I know what Reiner said. I didn't excuse 494 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: what Reiner said. I thought he was a scumbag. This 495 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: now becomes the story and people remember, and you have 496 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: a more of an uphill climb. Don't make my life difficult, 497 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: mister president. That's not why I voted for you. 498 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: If I wanted a. 499 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: Difficult life, I would have voted for Kamala Harris and 500 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: I'd be called a racist and a sexist every day. 501 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: Don't do stupid things anymore. And maybe if you've. 502 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: Got a team that said, oh, that's a great idea, 503 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: maybe it's time to let them go. This is Tony 504 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: Katz Today. I brought up that Margine Taylor Green is 505 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: going to be on the View after a after she 506 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: resigns from Congress, right, Yeah, she's gonna be on the 507 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: View like January January fifth she resigns, or January seven, 508 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: she resigns January fifth, Right, I mean this is not surprising. 509 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that she hasn't been uh, I'm surprised that 510 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: she hasn't been hired by CNN yet. But there is 511 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: a story about how US special forces rated a cargo 512 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: ship that was going from China to Iran that they 513 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: claim was transporting dual use military technology. 514 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: This was the Wall Street Journal with the reporting. 515 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: There was a special operation scene boarded the ship several 516 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: hundred miles from Sri Lanka, seizing the cargo. If China 517 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: is helping to arm Iran, how do you create deals 518 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: with China? And why in the world would we allow 519 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: the h was it the H two hundred chip from 520 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: Nvidia to be sold to the Chinese? Why why in 521 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: the world would we allow this? This should be another 522 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: reminder it's the communist Chinese. They can't be trusted. They 523 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: can't be allowed to educate their children in our universities. 524 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 2: They can have access to our ai. You can't allow 525 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: their companies to be involved in five G and the 526 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: Internet of Things and creating those protocols. 527 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: It's the right of the writings on the wall. It 528 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: is what it is, what it is. 529 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: So I'm curious to learn more about this because while 530 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a big story, it has not 531 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: gotten big coverage at all. And I think that anytime 532 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: you're taking a tanker or a ship I should say, 533 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: from China to a RAND and you're involved in some 534 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: kind of technology that could be used for the military, 535 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: you should. 536 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 3: Be talking about it. This is Tony Katz today,