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Speaker 1: We are back. It is another edition of Colts Corner

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Speaker 1: with myself Kevin Bowen. Eddie Garrison is back with us

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Speaker 1: as well. The Monday to Wednesday cadence continues here as

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Speaker 1: we reached the midway point of the NFL season and

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Speaker 1: the talk of the league it should be, if it's

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Speaker 1: not already the six and one Indianapolis Colts. Eddie talked

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Speaker 1: last week on the pod a little bit about Well,

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Speaker 1: first off, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to be back. I can't remember the last

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Speaker 2: time I did a Monday pod with you.

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Speaker 1: I know it has been in a while. You've been

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Speaker 1: doing some training here a.

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Speaker 2: Week one, week two, probably after one of those wins.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, gosh, it's been that long. Well, great to

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Speaker 1: have you back, and you come a great time because

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Speaker 1: the Colts are playing some excellent, excellent football. But I

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Speaker 1: said this on last week's pod, Eddie, the Colts treated

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Speaker 1: Sunday like it meant something more than just an average game.

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Speaker 1: And I'm good with that. I'm fine with NFL teams

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Speaker 1: embracing that moment, not afraid to ignoitree those sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: But you got to meet it, and I think too

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Speaker 1: often late in seasons the Colts haven't met the moment recently,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to make too much out of

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Speaker 1: mid October victory, but the Colts circled it, And now

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Speaker 1: how do you react to that? And they reacted pretty emphatically,

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Speaker 1: certainly from the start, and you know, if you need

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Speaker 1: any sort of reaction, and I'm you know, I think

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Speaker 1: the Colts set up publicly, but certainly behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: they circled this one. Like just watch Quentin Nelson's reaction

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Speaker 1: in the final gun yesterday. MC Quentin Nelson's bouncing around

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Speaker 1: after a fourteen point win in October, Like he's bounced

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Speaker 1: around like that was a you know, Michael Badsley game

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Speaker 1: winning field goal in December to you know, Clint a

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Speaker 1: division or something. And you know, meeting the moment, circling games,

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Speaker 1: making sure that you play when the environment and the

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Speaker 1: stakes are a little bit higher, those are all things

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Speaker 1: that you want to have happened for you in December

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Speaker 1: and January and divorce Buckner even throughout the mother the

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Speaker 1: February post game yesterday, I'm fine with that. You can

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Speaker 1: talk it and then if that leads to you know,

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Speaker 1: better play by all means, so really surgical offensively. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing that you can really say about the offense

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Speaker 1: right now. It's flawless, it's unbelievable balance. It's a slew

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Speaker 1: of different guys at Shane Stykeen and Daniel Jones, two

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Speaker 1: football nerds just eating it up Monday through Saturday and

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Speaker 1: then delivering on Sunday. And defensively, no timely turnovers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're Crossing Grover Stewart, I mean huge, huge place. Like

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Speaker 1: when they happened. In the moment, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we understood how big they were, but then as the

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Speaker 1: game played out, you realized how good the Chargers can

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Speaker 1: be offensively. Yeah, it just you have questions defensively, but

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Speaker 1: those two plays from Crossing and Grover were huge. So

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Speaker 1: six and one and now a massive two touchdown plus

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Speaker 1: favorite over the Tennessee Titans. Here coming up in Week eight,

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Speaker 1: the rare four to twenty five Colts Titans game. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of wild to think about this, keV.

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Speaker 2: But like when you think about all the teams in

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Speaker 2: this state that have had success in the last year,

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Speaker 2: all of them have been, you know, discounted, How all

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Speaker 2: of them have been critiqued, overlooked, not taken seriously. Like

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Speaker 2: you look at Indiana last year, they weren't taken seriously.

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Speaker 2: They make it to the College Football Playoff. You look

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Speaker 2: at the Indiana Pacers, they weren't taken as serious as

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Speaker 2: they should have been going into the postseason run. They

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Speaker 2: make it to the NBA Finals. That Indiana fever were

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Speaker 2: not taken seriously going into the WNBA playoffs their game

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Speaker 2: WNBA Finals to the team that ends up sweeping the

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Speaker 2: Phoenix Mercury. And now you've got the Indianapolis Colts, And

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Speaker 2: it felt like going into that game, it was another

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Speaker 2: one of those are the Colts real?

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Speaker 1: Like? Are we going like? Is this team real?

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Speaker 2: Or is it just one of those teams that's taken

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Speaker 2: adage of their schedule and they're just five and one

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Speaker 2: by happenstance. They went out and they dominated it once

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Speaker 2: why people would have had questions.

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, Geno Raiders, you know, Jacoby Cardinals, two

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Speaker 1: maybe some pause, you know, I think ridiculing the Colts

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Speaker 1: that's unfair, to be clear, but I understand if you

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Speaker 1: were in the camp of like, Okay, the schedule is

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Speaker 1: when you think about it, this was okay, Harball Herbert

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Speaker 1: you lost earlier this year. You know, Shane Steich in

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Speaker 1: nine years with the Chargers, there's bad blood there, but

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Speaker 1: just you know, everyone is a competitor, You're you're naturally

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Speaker 1: going to have that one circle. Then now here we

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Speaker 1: I was looking up last night. I think you got

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Speaker 1: it means a lot for the AFC. It's another conference win.

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Speaker 1: You're now two games above Jacksonville, you know, sneaky place

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Speaker 1: for me. I thought the Miror Abdullah kick return was

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Speaker 2: Without it, I did not have him as an impactful

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Speaker 2: player these last couple of weeks for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: No, but without doing you know, you needed another kick returner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: kind of those fourth downs Eddie I also thought were big,

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Speaker 1: the Colts are likely not challenging that. You probably aren't

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Speaker 2: One final thing to add keV And I know there's

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Speaker 2: they are very talented, but right now they're probably the

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Speaker 2: only team that's playing as well as they can in

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Speaker 2: terms of complimentary football, the offense picking up the defense,

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Speaker 2: the defense picking up the offense, special teams picking up everything.

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Speaker 2: Like that's the one comment that I think I'll have before.

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Speaker 1: of the ladder that you routinely get judged upon, certainly

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Speaker 1: I can get that. And you know, the beauty of

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Speaker 1: those questions. Like the Indiana football analogy was a great

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Speaker 1: So like that's the beauty of sports is you can

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Speaker 1: keep on having them thrown at you. And the Pacers

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Speaker 1: they answered them time and time again all the way

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Speaker 1: So that's the beauty of it is. You're going to

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Speaker 1: continue to get all of this and the cult have

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Speaker 1: January February meaningful football moments. I mean, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: After Sunday, Eddie, you can look at all these games

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season and be like, Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good team they're gonna play, or like that's

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Speaker 1: I guess Sunday Counts is divisional game. But still, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Right now, let's get into what you did, like, starting

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Speaker 2: with the guy who's been making all the right decisions offensively,

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Speaker 2: Shane stike In in his approach, is the first thing

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Speaker 2: that you liked about Sunday's win, Kevin, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean he is. The Colts offense is a wagon. It's

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Speaker 1: a wagon and stike and it's just it's beautiful what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. The offensive balance. Here's JT going, here's the checkdowns.

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Speaker 1: Seemingly every game wide the UNI would opened. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: at every level of the defense, Eddie, how wide ass

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Speaker 1: open the Colts are every level, dumps, checkdowns, bootlegs, intermediate stuff. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the deep bald to Piers, you know, stands out and

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Speaker 1: that whole red zone stat that they had going there.

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Speaker 1: so that that stat stopped there at twelve. I think

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Speaker 1: a franchise record was fifteen, which you know, with how

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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of forgot watching the game yesterday

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Speaker 1: that Josh Downs didn't play and yet they still score

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Speaker 1: thirty eight and if they wanted to, it could have

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Speaker 1: think you just got to mention Stike and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he told his team, hey, this game is

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Speaker 1: say for the twenty twenty five Colts as well. They

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Speaker 1: met that Penalties a little bit of an issue early

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Speaker 1: Red zone play a little bit of an issue early

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Speaker 1: that's what you want to see. You want to see growth,

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Speaker 1: you want to see areas that are weaknesses show up.

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Speaker 1: So I just think so much of this is stikeing,

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Speaker 1: you know, offensively, I've always been very very high on him,

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Speaker 1: but some of the other stuff as a head coach,

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Speaker 1: I think that has been there as well.

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Speaker 1: I probably didn't didn't do a good good enough job

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Speaker 2: The first time in a while, Kevin, You've got the

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Speaker 1: You know what that is? No, I don't know specifically.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and Drake May are the only quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: I would say the edge rush is the one that

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Speaker 1: now I am all in on from a trade standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I think it's needed. And he also had a couple injuries.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday Sampson epcom gets a friendly fire from Buckner and

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Speaker 1: the knee Taekwon lewis at the groin. You know, where

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Speaker 1: are they going to be at here moving forward? You

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Speaker 1: know at corner you could tuck yourself into, Hey, Tavarius Ward,

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Speaker 1: you know it is back in a few weeks. You

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Speaker 1: hope Jalen Jones at some point, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: there was a thought that in October he could be back,

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Speaker 1: you know, at some point to see give you something.

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Speaker 1: I don't see where that is at all from a

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Speaker 1: defensive line defensive end standpoint. And I also think, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can find a situational rusher that you know it's

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Speaker 1: not too taxing on them. Hey, third down, Welcome to Indy.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to know a lot of verbis a

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Speaker 1: lot of language. Just beat the dude in front of you.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of how I view things. I feel like

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Speaker 1: all the pressure you create, or a lot of the

446
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Speaker 1: pressure that you create, is off of stunts or largely

447
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Speaker 1: high effort plays. It's not enough of individual guys winning

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Speaker 1: one on one. So I think that's where some of

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Speaker 1: the frustration for me lies right now with the with

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Speaker 1: the past rush.

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Speaker 2: Here's my rebuttal to you KB. Even when you go

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Speaker 2: back and you look at the lou Ayne and Ramo

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Speaker 2: days with Cincinnati, like it was just Trey Hendrickson. Outside

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Speaker 2: of that, they they didn't get a lot of pass

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Speaker 2: rush from whomever the opposite end was, whether that's Sam

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Speaker 2: Hubbard or somebody else, And I have to wonder is

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Speaker 2: this more of a scheme thing, because is it more

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Speaker 2: gap integrity and versus the past with Gus Bradley. I

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Speaker 2: think I can't remember who it was that said this

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Speaker 2: on It was Taekwon Lewis. We had him on Korean

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Speaker 2: Company a few like a month ago, and he said

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Speaker 2: that this defense is more gap integrity wise versus just

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Speaker 2: trying to generate pressure at the quarterback. So it makes

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Speaker 2: me wonder if it's more of the scheme than it

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Speaker 2: is the talent. But I also think there could be

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Speaker 2: some lack of talent there as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know if I'm seeing the gap

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Speaker 1: integrity either, because I think when Herbert wanted to run

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Speaker 1: yesterday he was able to do that as well, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting into some of those A and B gaps and

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Speaker 1: things like that. So I I don't I understand the

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Speaker 1: Hendrickson side of it, But to me still it's just

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Speaker 1: not enough. It's not enough from these individual players, whether

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Speaker 1: it was Gus Bradley or now lou Ana Roumo. You know,

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Speaker 1: Gus's scheme was very much of a you know, get

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Speaker 1: up field, get up field, get up field, And I

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Speaker 1: still didn't think you got the defensive play making that

478
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Speaker 1: was necessary there. So I think you got some definite

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Speaker 1: questions with that group in general there. And it goes

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Speaker 1: back to the Crossing Stewart Place, how pivotal those were

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Speaker 1: in you know, getting stops for you. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if you look at some of these quarterbacks that hell,

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Speaker 1: you know, depending on Right now, the Colts are the

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Speaker 1: one seed, but like you know, if you fell into

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Speaker 1: that wildcard weekend, you could be facing Herbert again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could be facing Patrick Mahomes, you could be facing

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I mean right now the Patriots are when

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Speaker 1: the ac So you know those guys in your building,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a controlled climate, you know, passwords canna

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Speaker 1: be vital, So trying to get those guys you know,

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Speaker 1: off their games there. So it's just it kind of

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Speaker 1: gets back to the I get these are great players

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Speaker 1: that you're playing, but just because they're great, does that

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Speaker 1: mean that they should have a career high against you. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, that to me is where the expectations should

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Speaker 1: be met at a little bit more of a higher

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Speaker 1: standard there. So, yeah, disappointed in the in the passers

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Speaker 1: and maybe just kind of the natural ability to get

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Speaker 1: off the field a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: And then the second item kind of nitpicking here, Kevin,

501
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Speaker 2: when there's a lot of things that go well, the

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Speaker 2: fact that Michael Badgeley missed at Pat indoors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and my question becomes, this does change second? Trust him?

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Speaker 1: Like the fourth and four eddie in the second quarter

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Speaker 1: before they overruled the Anthony gold play, that was a

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Speaker 1: forty yard field goal attempt and they were going for it.

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Speaker 2: Is that because a lack of trust Michael Badgley or

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Speaker 2: is that just the utmost confidence in your offense? And

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Speaker 2: maybe knowing that hey points maybe out of premium here,

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Speaker 2: considering the nature of our secondary.

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Speaker 1: Probably the easy answer is both. You know, again, watching

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Speaker 1: badgery kick of practice, I think I asked some questions

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Speaker 1: about his leg strength in general. Obviously the extra point

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Speaker 1: I think I was the first miss I believe since

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Speaker 1: Matt Gay in Cincinnati that rainy December game against Jake

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Speaker 1: Browning in a few years ago. It's pretty rare to

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Speaker 1: see an indoor missed extra point, especially for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: And my questions now are what happens in Hinesfield, what

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Speaker 1: happens in Arrowhead, what happens in Seattle? If you don't

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Speaker 1: get the one seed and you are in a playoff run.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of the other AFC teams are

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Speaker 1: outdoor venues. Do you have a kicker that you can

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Speaker 1: trust when fourth and four is now fourth and seven?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a guy that you trust? Because right

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Speaker 1: now I get the sense that Shane sty can trust

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Speaker 1: Michael Bazie about as much as I trust myself to

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Speaker 1: only have one plate of food on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Goes back to the question I can't remember if I

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Speaker 2: asked you on this pod or if I asked you

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Speaker 2: on the show, and you're on with Jake on Fridays

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Speaker 2: whenever Tyler bast or if he does, at this point

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Speaker 2: from Buffalo make a return like and they obviously you're

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Speaker 2: not keeping two kickers on the roster. Do you make

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Speaker 2: a move at Matt Prater with you know, the kicks

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Speaker 2: that he's made in his career and the way he's

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Speaker 2: kicked it for the Buffalo Bills this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely keep the list handy. You know they

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Speaker 1: always say you have the list in that top drawer.

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Speaker 1: I might move the disc, move move the disc, move

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Speaker 1: the list to the desk. And then when Michael Basie

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Speaker 1: walks in may move the list to the other side

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Speaker 1: of the desk underneath the legal power too. Let's get

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Speaker 1: it back. I just think, you know, in this league

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Speaker 1: and right now, it's so hard to even comprehend Eddie

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Speaker 1: because the Folts are beating the you know what out

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Speaker 1: of these teams. Yeah, but in this league, so much

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Speaker 1: of it can come down to what happens. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how many big kicks that Harrison Bucker make to win

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Speaker 1: an ice games? How many big kicks did the Colts

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Speaker 1: have to deal with? You know, from a vander Jack

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Speaker 1: standpoint back in the day, good and bad. You know,

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Speaker 1: that stuff just matters a ton. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just something to keep it on.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into twitter questions. We have a handful of

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Speaker 2: them to get to, starting with Wakespike to kind of

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Speaker 2: continue the conversation about the Colts pass rush. Kevin Wakespike wonders,

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Speaker 2: am I crazy for thinking that the eighth string Chargers

558
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Speaker 2: lineman should have been far more destroyed by the Colts

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Speaker 2: defensive ends? Chris Baller can't draft defensive ends. The Colts won,

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Speaker 2: but justin Herbert should have been smashed way more than

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Speaker 2: he was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is kind of what I am. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: at it, and again my question now becomes this Eddie

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Speaker 1: trade candidates. Okay, let's look at teams that are thrown

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Speaker 1: the towel or are going to throw in the towl Jets, Dolphins, Titans, Saints, Raiders.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Bradley Chubbs, the Jalen phillips Is, the

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Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau's, Carl Granderson, you know those. You don't have

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Speaker 1: your sixth rounder. Now, theoretically, at some point you'll probably

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Speaker 1: get a mid round pick back for Anthony Richardson, I

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Speaker 1: would assume, so you know, maybe that can kind of

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Speaker 1: offset some things. But a third, a fourth, and fifth,

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Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not gonna talk. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: talk realistically. I don't think Max Crosby or Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: or any of those are realistic, particularly with your cap

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Speaker 1: situation and what Daniel Jones is gonna garner. But those

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Speaker 1: are the spots I would look at, and I just

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Speaker 1: view I think that past rush, like pass rush and corner,

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Speaker 1: they both matter. I think pass rush matters more. That's

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Speaker 1: how I view it. You know, to me, which one

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Speaker 1: would I rather have? Be elite? Obviously I think both,

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Speaker 1: But if I'm gonna pick one or the other, I

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Speaker 1: would pick your pass rush. I think it's easier to

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Speaker 1: if you can disrupt earlier in downs, I think it

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Speaker 1: can lead to more chaos than it is. Just Hey,

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Speaker 1: if you have blanket cover, it is so hard to

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Speaker 1: hold up for five, six, seven seconds period, even if

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Speaker 1: you are some elite corner. Whereas if your past rush

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Speaker 1: can accomplish it, I think it's gonna lead to a

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Speaker 1: more disruption.

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Speaker 2: The follow up to this, are you looking for somebody

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Speaker 2: who's under contract for multiple years? Are you looking for

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Speaker 2: like a rental situation here?

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be overly greedy.

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Speaker 2: The only reason why I ask is we've already kind

595
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Speaker 2: of talked about the you know, the situation the culture

596
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Speaker 2: room with some players that are going to be due for

597
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Speaker 2: contracts Daniel Jones, Nick Cross, Alec Pierce. So the question

598
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Speaker 2: is like, that's something that you have to consider. I

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Speaker 2: feel like, right, yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: I guess fitting it into down the road, I mean,

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Speaker 1: right now, Quitty pay looks like a guy you let walk,

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Speaker 1: right yeah. So I mean yeah, I mean in a

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Speaker 1: perfect world, I think anytime you do a trade, you'd

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Speaker 1: find a young guy that's able to help you for

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Speaker 1: more than that year. But I don't know, maybe financially,

606
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Speaker 1: maybe they are more in a you know, three month

607
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Speaker 1: rental sort of situation here, So it's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I'm not overly greedy though. To me, I just think

609
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Speaker 1: that DeForest Buckner is commanding so many freaking double teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that they the others should be feasting in these one

611
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Speaker 1: on one opportunities. Have you ever seen I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I've ever seen an NFL game where I've seen

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Speaker 1: a team sub in more offensive lineman within a game,

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Speaker 1: Like it seemed like every time the camera's pan of

615
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Speaker 1: the Chargers sideline, they're subbing in a new offensive lineman. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this wide out corner wild? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Name that I thought of immediately, Kevin when with where

618
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Speaker 2: things are at with their season is Miami and Jalen

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Speaker 2: Phillips would fit the bill.

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Speaker 1: Right, people said Phillips who have said Chubb.

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Speaker 2: Just because Phillips is on the last year of his

622
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Speaker 2: rookie deal, right and he would be a free agent

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Speaker 2: after this year. So if it doesn't paint out, then

624
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Speaker 2: you know, you don't lose anything really, Yeah, Plus you

625
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Speaker 2: don't worry about the future contract at the room down

626
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Speaker 2: the road, Brian would like to know, was Zire Franklin's

627
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Speaker 2: play against Lad McConkie the play of the game, or

628
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Speaker 2: at least the play of the second half if Zayre

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Speaker 2: doesn't get back in coverage and break that pass up

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Speaker 2: at the touchdown in a one possession game. For all

631
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Speaker 2: the flak he's taken so far this season about his

632
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Speaker 2: coverage issues, he came up huge there, Brian.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned this. Kudos to Brian for mentioning this, Eddie.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of stunned when all of a sudden,

635
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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, that was forty four Yeah, that

636
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Speaker 1: far down the field, that close to Lad mcconkkee, and

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Speaker 1: then making the play at the moment of truth, that

638
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Speaker 1: was a big time yeah. I you know, where do

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Speaker 1: you rank it on the magnitude of plays in the game?

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, play the second half. I thought the

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Speaker 1: Abdullah kick return was pretty big, but I mean, what

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Speaker 1: would that have been Chargers score there with what like

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Speaker 1: probably three thirty to go? Does that sound right? I'll

644
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Speaker 1: go back and look, but something along those lines. I mean, yeah,

645
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Speaker 1: that was a big play. I you know, so they

646
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Speaker 1: were down to two timeouts at that point. You know,

647
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Speaker 1: the Colts probably have to get what two first down

648
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Speaker 1: to win the game? Yeah? Huge, It was huge, And

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Speaker 1: just credit, I mean credits.

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Speaker 2: I I don't three forty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, right around three three thirty credit to

652
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Speaker 1: him because I don't think it. You know, I don't

653
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Speaker 1: view his season so far by any means pro Bowl

654
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Speaker 1: ish or but I thought that was a big time

655
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Speaker 1: playing coverage by a guy that's played every single snap

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Speaker 1: defensively for you there, and yeah, I think that deserves

657
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Speaker 1: more more mentioned. And I mean you've been on the

658
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Speaker 1: field for how many plays at that point of the drive.

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Speaker 1: Was that a twenty one play drive? Uh? Yes, you

660
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Speaker 1: know that's probably worth pointing out as well.

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Speaker 2: That was play let's see here, so that was twenty

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Speaker 2: one twenty that was play. Uh, that was play twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big time, big time.

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Speaker 2: Josh's next, any reason why Rico Berto Sanchez is not

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Speaker 2: doing kickoffs anymore? Was Spencer Schrader doing them before he

666
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Speaker 2: got insured?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think it was a little bit

668
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Speaker 1: of talk if you don't want to put too much

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Speaker 1: on Rigo's leg, but hell, he's right now. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought they were a little better yesterday than they

671
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Speaker 1: have been. But now the kickoff really matters. All these rules,

672
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Speaker 1: I mean, the kickoff just really matters. So yeah, I

673
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Speaker 1: thought it was a I was curious if they would

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Speaker 1: put Sanchez, you know, back there on it.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm waiting for to see one of

676
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Speaker 2: these kickers do like Johnny Hecker with when he was

677
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Speaker 2: with the Rams, came up with like the watermelon punt,

678
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Speaker 2: like you would drop the both sideways and wou.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'spin over that way.

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Speaker 2: I'm waiting for one of these kickers to put the

681
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Speaker 2: ball on the tee sideways and it's like a freaking

682
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Speaker 2: you know, slicing line drive in baseball, or like you're

683
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Speaker 2: kicking on one side and it's like slicing away from

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Speaker 2: the returner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the only issue there is like would

686
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Speaker 1: he go out of bounds? You know? Yeah? Yeah? So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I you know how teams I think evolve with the kickoff.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll be very interesting as well, not only

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Speaker 1: this year, but kind of in future years as well.

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Speaker 2: Two questions left Gary's is with Daniel Jones, are the

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Speaker 2: Colts better off in our quarterback situation? Or do the

692
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Speaker 2: Colts still need to be looking for a quarterback? Also,

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Speaker 2: how does Anthony Richardson fit into the equation? If I

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Speaker 2: could only listen to one Colts podcast, this would be

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Speaker 2: the one.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Gary, Gary, it's a very nice of you on

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Speaker 1: that there. I edited that one in there. I just

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Speaker 1: sent it to you and just try to make it

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Speaker 1: look like the rest of you really font there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so anytime there's like, hey, love listening to the

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Speaker 2: podcast to you.

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Speaker 1: Right, uh huh okay, yeah, yeah, you can find that

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Speaker 1: on me. Gary, Thank you. It means a lot. I

704
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Speaker 1: know there are a lot of great coltspots out there, frankly,

705
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Speaker 1: so we appreciate you. Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm so sure none of these are your burners

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Speaker 2: that you're just making up to ask questions to make

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Speaker 2: it look like we have listeners.

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Speaker 1: Right right exactly, dms are empty. I'm just simply sending

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Speaker 1: you over to you most common American names out there

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Speaker 1: here we go, which we actually have a large international audience,

712
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Speaker 1: so I should also include that. Well, you know me,

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Speaker 1: I've always been team draft and developed I think an

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Speaker 1: ideal NFL world. You aren't immediately paying the quarterback thirty

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Speaker 1: to forty million, yeap whatever Daniel Jones is going to

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Speaker 1: command next offseason, Like that would be an idea, Like

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Speaker 1: you can build it a little bit with the five

718
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Speaker 1: year rookie window, and then at some point you have

719
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Speaker 1: to then pay that quarterback and now he covers up

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Speaker 1: the holes you support him, support him, supported in the

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Speaker 1: first five years, and then the training wheels come off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of my thought in general from a quarterback

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Speaker 1: standpoint now right now, I mean it's just, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's incredible what Jones has done. So you know, there's

725
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Speaker 1: part of me that kind of thinks back to the

726
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Speaker 1: ballad quote of you need to find the next quarterback

727
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Speaker 1: when you have the quarterback, you know, kind of doing

728
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Speaker 1: whatever more the Green Bay method to things here. And

729
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to think, Eddie, who who are

730
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Speaker 1: you paying? You're paying Pierce, Braden Smith, Nick Cross, potentially

731
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Speaker 1: Quitty pay. I think who else in contract years?

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Speaker 2: Uh Cross, Pierce, Quitty pay Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean, do we get back to the Pierce

734
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Speaker 1: versus Pittman debate? You know, you and I had this

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Speaker 1: during the off season.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think it's different now than it was

737
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Speaker 2: in the off season because I thought there was hope

738
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Speaker 2: for ad Mitchell turning into something, right, okay, and now

739
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Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like it's going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna give Pittman a third contract.

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Speaker 2: Braden Smith free agent as well.

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Speaker 1: Right now, that to me seems past the torch. I

743
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: think they're high on Jalen Travis. I know it's not

744
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: again you would love to resign all these so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I And as far as Richardson is concerned, no, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there was always a thought here

747
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: in the season, as long as we was healthy that

748
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Speaker 1: you know, when Jones gets hurt, Richard someonoy would would

749
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Speaker 1: get a chance. But now win's Richardson back? Is he

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Speaker 1: back this season?

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00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: The well currently have just north of sixty nine million

752
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: dollars in cap space for next season, but that includes

753
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Speaker 2: the capitols where Braden Smith, Quitti Pay and Samson ebcom.

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Speaker 1: You know, the more we get into this season and

755
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Speaker 1: the more you watch Shane Stichen and Daniel Jones, these

756
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 1: just mad Bill Nye, the science guy scientists go to work.

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Speaker 2: I like the the micd Up moment was that last

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Speaker 2: week against the Arizona game. After the Arizona game. It's

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Speaker 2: like they're looking over to the play called she and

760
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Speaker 2: he goes, hey, what do you like here?

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Speaker 1: You like this one? Or we can go here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know Dan's like I like this when he goes,

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Speaker 1: all right, me too, let's go Like these two are.

764
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Speaker 1: The more I watch it play out, the more I'm

765
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Speaker 1: honestly confused by the Anthony Richardson draft pick, just because

766
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Speaker 1: it seems like Shane is so obsessive and once needs

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Speaker 1: his quarterback to meet him at that level that you

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Speaker 1: know Richardson a Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe you're

769
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Speaker 1: back into a corner as a franchise. And I mean

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Speaker 1: Shane liked richards It's not like Shane was against the pick.

771
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Speaker 1: But these two are just they're two football nerd.

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Speaker 2: There I am.

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Speaker 1: I show this on a morning show today. There I

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Speaker 1: am Friday night. And like Friday night for those unfamiliar

775
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Speaker 1: with NFL life, it's the one time you get freedom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like basically the NFL day on a Friday for players

777
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Speaker 1: ends about two o'clock. Yeah, and for the most part,

778
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Speaker 1: you're high tailing out of there pretty quickly after that,

779
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: and even some coaches and you get that whatever that

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Speaker 1: three o'clock to you know, whatever time you go to

781
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Speaker 1: bed Friday night window and then you're back in the

782
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Speaker 1: building Saturday morning. And once you're back in the building,

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Speaker 1: you're probably going straight from the buildings to the airport.

784
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Speaker 1: Like Saturday is a walk through and then travel day

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Speaker 1: or the ordered the team hotel. Yeah, order the team

786
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Speaker 1: hotel for for for home games exactly. Now, you know,

787
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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of time in between to go home,

788
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Speaker 1: but you know, when you so again, Friday is pretty

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Speaker 1: much that I'm walking into the Butler basketball game Friday night,

790
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Speaker 1: Butler Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised you're calling it the Butler basketball game for

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Speaker 2: that mascout out.

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Speaker 1: To the beautiful Pinkle field. That's great. A new video

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Speaker 1: boards in there. And are you familiar with the Butler

795
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Speaker 1: Bowl the football stadium. Uh? Yes, okay, so yeah, it's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know Bronzish bulldog. You know, I think everybody

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Speaker 1: knows the Butler mascot. Yes, bronze bulldog. You know, great

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Speaker 1: looking uh statue, he's got his cage and everything. Max

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Speaker 1: Bones sees that and he's locked in. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: climbing on that bulldog getting the bulldog. He's acting like

801
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Speaker 1: he's getting the bulldog food. You know, it's like six forty, so,

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00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, starting to get a little dark as kind

803
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Speaker 1: of a dreary night. I'm like, come on, Max, come on,

804
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to get him to you know,

805
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Speaker 1: move along, move along. And next thing you know, you

806
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Speaker 1: got this like nice looking suv pulling up. I'm like, Max,

807
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: speed up a little bit here, and in a very

808
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: playful man of the driver of the stuv is like,

809
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: will you hurry up up there? And was it Shane

810
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: Sichon or Daniel Jones? And I'm like, what is going

811
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Speaker 1: on over here? Bow? And all of a sudden, I

812
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: walk over there, Shane sick and driving Daniel Jones at

813
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Speaker 1: the front seat.

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Speaker 2: No way, I knew they were at the game together.

815
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize they, you know, travel together.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at it. I mean, these dudes can't

817
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: get enough of each other. And I'm thinking, this is

818
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Speaker 1: your only Friday, this is your only off night of

819
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Speaker 1: the whole week, and here they are together in they're

820
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Speaker 1: mid court. Daniel Jones shout out to Daniel Jones, bought

821
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Speaker 1: a fifty fifty ticket. Now if you leave the sporting

822
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Speaker 1: event early. Can you win the fifty to fifty ticket

823
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Speaker 1: or do you have to be present? You have to

824
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Speaker 1: be present, You got to be present, right, Yeah, I

825
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: want them to do prices right with the fifty to

826
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Speaker 1: fifty lights off Strobe light it and then whoever wins

827
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Speaker 1: the fifty five. Yeah, that's what I would like. But

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Speaker 1: nice for Daniel Jones, that'd be sick. You don't some

829
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Speaker 1: money there to the Butler ethotic department. So it's just

830
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Speaker 1: these two are I mean, they watched games together Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You know, Daniel is a guy that at Saturday night

832
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 1: at the team hotel, that meeting ends and he wants

833
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: the offense to stick together and look at a few

834
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Speaker 1: more things. I mean, your preparation is one of the

835
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Speaker 1: four core beliefs of psych and I remember saying this

836
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Speaker 1: about Gus Bradley. That's why it always confused me defensively

837
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Speaker 1: that they decided to play a system that didn't stress

838
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: enough preparation. Yeah, from opposing teams towards your defense. Well,

839
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: now again they're going to the nth degree from a

840
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: preparation standpoint. Shane shared the story in the postgame press

841
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: conference after the Arizona game of remember that tight window

842
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: ball that Jones suit a Pierce, Yes, late in the

843
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: fourth quarter there, yeah, the crosser, that was a watch

844
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Speaker 1: it Saturday night. If we get this look, I'm gonna

845
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: get that tight shot. Heres are we all ready for it?

846
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: And then boom, twenty four hours later it plays out

847
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: of that manner, Like that's the stuff.

848
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Speaker 2: These two are just Flaco said the same thing, kind

849
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: so obsessive Saturday after the Cincinnati game, like him and

850
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. I mean, obviously they had to spend a

851
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: lot of time together short week, three days to prepare whatever,

852
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: and they had a feeling that Pittsburgh would try to

853
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: do the double bracket of Jamaar Chase and t Higgins.

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Speaker 2: So they call up a play where they think they're

855
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Speaker 2: gonna get the look. They get the look, and it

856
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: was just implemented the night before, and they got the

857
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Speaker 2: look they wanted. He had andre Yoskiebosk for first down

858
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: and to continue the Daniel Jones Shane Styching thing. I

859
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: go back to when Shane was first hired, and I

860
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: don't know who is somebody in the media. One of

861
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: those first press conferences was asking him about the quarterback position,

862
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: and like the number one thing that he always came

863
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: back to was just the obsession of the position and

864
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: the obsession of the sport. And you can clearly see

865
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is obsessed with football and he's obsessed with

866
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: the position.

867
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this market is obviously he served

868
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: him well, you know, he's going into your local places

869
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: here and you know, local high school football games, is

870
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: enjoying that and just a little bit more of a

871
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: This seems to be his speed. And he's living in

872
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: a very quiet part of Indianapolis, Like I mean, it's

873
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: not you know, he's not downtown in the hustle and

874
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: bustle if you even call downtown Indianapolis having a hustle

875
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: and bustle from a whatever a Friday night standpoint is

876
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: clearly his Friday nights are pretty subdued, just hanging at

877
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: the Butler game. So yeah, it just seems like a perfect,

878
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: perfect marriage. And again, I mean, I guess there's no

879
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: way to say without it coming as a shot at

880
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, But it's like, then why draft Richardson? Right?

881
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: You know, because quarterbacks come in all shapes and sizes,

882
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: Rivers Herbert Hurts, I mean, they're all different. Yeah, very

883
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: different stylistically, but they had the obsessive gene playing that position.

884
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: And yet you know that was the one question. And again,

885
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe you're backed in as a franchise, you know, if

886
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: we don't need to rehash to twenty twenty three draft.

887
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: I you know, that's why I've always been been a

888
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: believer of if you're in that position as a franchise,

889
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: you have to do everything you can to trade as

890
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: high up as possible. I want to choose. I want

891
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: the candy. I want to choose the candy bar from

892
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: the gas station. I don't want you to go in

893
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: and choose for me. Yeah.

894
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: Final, It's what a question comes from, Jake, if you're

895
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: a betting man, which you are right.

896
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: I had dapplication. Okay, not a lot, but I do dapplication.

897
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: Do you think the Colts ting a swing at trading

898
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: for a cornerback before the deadline? This feels like a

899
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: Peyton Maning era team where it's just a race to

900
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: who gets the ball last. When the Colts play legit

901
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: teams and hope the defense doesn't break. If Chris Ballard

902
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: and Shane Steichen are in make or break years, you

903
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 2: gotta think they do whatever possible to make a serious run.

904
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: This isn't a development year anymore.

905
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: Wait does have a little bit of that feel of

906
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: like who gets the ball last? Something along those lines.

907
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: What do you think, Eddie, where you go? Corner?

908
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: I still find the whole Jalen Jones and Jalen Carlis

909
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: situation is very fast. You would think they'd be they

910
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: would both be back by now from their injuries. I

911
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: would probably just go, well, you're gonna get Ward back, right,

912
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 2: I assume yeah. I mean he's you know, out through

913
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: the bye week. Outside of that, are they getting any

914
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: other reinforcements in the secondary?

915
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Jalonen Jones would would probably be the

916
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: other one. But does is he gonna play right right?

917
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: You know again, I had thought maybe October.

918
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: Or him, he'll come back at some point. But do

919
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,479
Speaker 2: you need Mike Kilton with Kenny Moore back?

920
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? So that's you know, we're probably splitting hairs here.

921
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: But if you literally said to me which one matters more?

922
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: Would you rather have an elite pass rush or elite

923
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: cornerback elite pass, I would say the elite pass rush.

924
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: Malcolm KONE's another name, by the way. I also feel

925
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: like Eddie's just a I could somehow listen to talking

926
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: yourself into corner. Like if I told you right now

927
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: you had a cornerback group at the start of December.

928
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Your cornerback group was various Ward Makai Blackman and Kennymore

929
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: the second and Jalen Jones and Jonathan Edwards were cornerbacks

930
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: four and five. I think you could get by with that, right.

931
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: I like that. Whereas that pass rush, I don't feel

932
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: as good about it. Yeah, I mean the Chargers, that's

933
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: something like, I mean, that was just embarrassing to watch

934
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 1: him even try to double team to force Buckner. Yeah,

935
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: and what happens with Buckner gets nicked up. You know,

936
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: we've had some games where Buckner has been on a

937
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: pitch count. You know those moments it's just like, oh boy,

938
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: So we'll see maybe j T tuamal allow some second

939
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: half you know, rookie impact. He obviously made some plays

940
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, you know, college football wise,

941
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: of course, So all things to get to. I know,

942
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: we got a good amount of Twitter questions we couldn't

943
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: get to today. We'll get to on Wednesday's pot. I

944
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: believe the biggest, second biggest spread in the NFL this season, Uh,

945
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: Colts Titans, and I want to say, the biggest spread

946
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: for the franchise in about four years.

947
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: Oh, what is it? What's the opening line?

948
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was fourteen and a half. I think

949
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: Jacksonville maybe to end one of those seasons Colts won

950
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: one and lost one. I think it was twenty twenty one.

951
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: We've had a couple of those games this year that

952
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: have been fourteen and a half.

953
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say Bill Saints.

954
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: That was one, and then I believe in and a half.

955
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: There was another one maybe Green Bay Sincy.

956
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: Uh that was I think eleven. I thought Baltimore Cleveland

957
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: was fourteen and a half too.

958
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think got opened up big, but you know,

959
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: usually these lines tend to open up big and then

960
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: oh yeah, they get beat down a little bit here.

961
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: So again, just some uh, just some things to keep

962
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: an eye on here as we get closer to Sunday

963
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: with Colts and Titans. That is Mike McCoy the interim

964
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: coach down there, and I believe Jeffrey Simmons got hurt

965
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: on Sunday and Lujerry Sneap, so a couple of notable

966
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Titans got hurt in that game. Bettie Garrison, thank you.

967
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Glad to be back Colts Cornick, myself, Kevin Bowen and

968
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison. We are wrapping up and we'll talk to

969
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: you on Wednesday preview in Week eight of the NFL