WEBVTT - Together 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.240 The Frames per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.160 Welcome to another episode of the Frame Second Podcast. I 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.560 am your house for the evening. My name is Mike. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:15.480 Next to me, I have Rob next to me, I 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:19.560 have Spike, Spike, I have Ken. We were talking about 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.680 the new movie Together, which I did not write down 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:24.400 who directed it, but we'll get to that in a minute. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.400 Let's go ahead and go around the room. Uh, Spike, 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:28.360 where'd you think of Together? 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.440 It was entertaining until what until it got too like ridiculous. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.840 They did a good job of like when you wonder 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.520 what was going on starting with the dogs and like, okay, 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:41.800 I I was just gonna play out and then it 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.400 just like fell off a cliff, like a quarte, like 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.280 a third through. It's like, what the fuck is happening 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:48.720 right now? 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.519 So okay, Yeah, so it doesn't sound like it had 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.360 a really good review from you. 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:54.840 Ken, What did you think of Together? 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.000 I enjoyed it. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.440 It was it was slow in parts, you know, questions 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.560 about certain things and how they were going to do 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.600 this that I felt like they took a manute to 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.319 get to the stuff I wanted to see, But overall. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:07.959 I enjoyed it. 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:14.360 You know, the version or adjacent to human centipede or 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:23.039 something like that, you know, adjacent to what it's probably 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.280 a human centerph gotcha, m. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.759 I got things that I got, things that it's very 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.000 similar to, but that didn't come up. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:30.720 On mind, not that one. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:36.119 Okay, if y'all listening patrons, please vote for Spike to watch. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.720 Human Centipede and Rod. What did you think of together? No, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.000 this is good, man, I enjoyed this one. It was 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.600 disturbing in moments, but it was a good disturbing thing. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.560 But not Man. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.080 Yeah, this this ultimately was good. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.520 This is good. I walked away like, Nah, that was good. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.320 That was pretty fucking That's how I felt. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.279 Face. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.280 Yeah, I thought it was well. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.120 The movie is directed by Michael Shanks and written by 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:09.400 Michael Shanks. Stars Dave Franco and Alison Bree. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.880 I really liked it. I liked it a lot. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.000 This was a movie that I won't say I was 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:19.120 necessarily looking forward to, but after fucking up and watching 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:24.040 the fucking trailer, which I shouldn't have watched, I liked it. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:25.200 I liked it a lot. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:32.000 I am a little tired of the metaphor heavy horror movies. Uh, 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.680 I feel like this is becoming a little bit too 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.239 much of a thing, and it's getting to be a 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.200 little annoying to where it's like, bruh, I just want 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.800 to see some really fucked up shit. It doesn't have 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.760 to have some fucking message. But I think this was 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.280 pretty well done. And Spike's looking at me like, I 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:48.400 don't know what the message was, but. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.560 We will, we will, we will get to and westalled 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.400 the messages and maybe no one got the message. 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.239 I don't know, but we'll see. It did remind me 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.040 y'all talked about. It reminded me of that movie that 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.679 we saw with a Debbie Moore. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.240 Yeah, the substance that was That was when it was all. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.640 I feel like this was a mixture of Midsommer, the 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.079 Substance and this movie Possession. I feel like I don't 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.160 feel like this was a super original movie, but that's fine. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.080 I just thought it was still pretty well done. But 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.160 when I saw the monster, I was like, oh, that 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.919 looks exactly like the substance. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.560 Okay, and the thing. 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.280 Sorry, I didn't even think about the substance. 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:25.760 Oh wow, I didn't either. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:26.760 I didn't either. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.240 But body horror is definitely becoming the new hotness for Hollywood. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.560 So yeah, It definitely reminded me a lot. 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.960 I didn't think it was crazy, all right. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.520 Well it starts out with people are looking for a 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.080 lost couple, but we end up showing these two dogs, 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.400 and after the dogs drink some water in a cave, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.400 they end up fusing together. So spike was a good start. Yeah, 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:50.520 it was really mysterious. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.080 So I was like, Okay, nice opening to give me, 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.880 you know, some something to work with throughout the movie 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.000 as to what's going to be happening, and like what 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:58.680 was in the water? 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.440 Had it happen to the dog? So it piqued my 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:02.320 interest in the beginning. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.280 So the one dog, the black dog, was scared, but 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.280 he drunk the water too, didn't it? 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.360 So oh see you didn't get it. We don't get there. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:14.480 Yeah because so. 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.120 But the other dog was just freaking funk out and 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.960 uh and and was even merging into that motherfucker. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:23.120 Bro. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.039 But he should have ran. That's what you should. But 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.800 you see, if I see too much, he should have 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:27.400 shot them down. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:27.600 Though. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.680 I would have definitely shot them, Bro probably did looking 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.000 at it. Yeah, shot him before they were staring at 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:34.360 each other. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.640 Oh yeah, why would you have shot him before that? 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.960 All they were doing was just standing around staring. That's 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:41.520 he's not strange for a dog. 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.160 They never steal like that, though. It's always if they 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.520 in each other's presence, is always some type of interaction. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.960 It seems like I would have thought something was wrong. 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.880 Yeah, you gotta put them down, bro Man, stop it. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:59.040 Rod. It's a cool start. Yeah, it's absolutely a cool start. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.520 But this is this is why I wish I hadn't 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.120 saw the part of the trailer, but I couldn't avoid 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:07.640 it because it was some of the movies that I 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.680 had wanted to see, So I already knew what was 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.320 kind of what was happening, but it would have been 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.520 cool not to know what the fuck was gonna happen, 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:14.160 you know what I'm saying. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.239 But it still was. It was a really good opener. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:16.440 Though. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.080 Yeah, I wish I would have walked in completely blind 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:19.920 this movie. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.080 I really knew, but this part wasn't a trailer, right 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:22.760 it was. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.799 The dogs weren't, but them fusing together was in the trailer. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.160 I wish they wouldn't have done that because the second 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.720 one I saw the dogs, I was like, oh, well, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.880 I know how this is gonna end, so yeah, I 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.840 gotta just stop I got to the point I'm only 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.680 watching half the trailers, but even half the trailers giving 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:39.720 away because. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.000 Yeah, this trailer they were they were marketing this one 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:48.440 heavy going. It was definitely earlier, but yeah, it was 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.120 hard to avoid it. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.360 I couldn't miss this one. This one is everywhere. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.120 I'm gonna start getting to the theater and I'm gonna 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.280 put my stuff down and then I'm gonna go. I 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.000 did that back out the door and just waiting until 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.000 the ship is over. But yeah, next we meet Tim 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.120 played by James Franco and Milly played by Alison Brie, 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.280 who is actually a real life couple, but yeah, there 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.880 are a couple who have been dating for a while. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.440 It seems that Tim is the the more financially dependent 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.640 one and Millie's the bread winner. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.000 Spike, what do you think about that proposal? So cringe? 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.560 I was saying, I was second hand embarrassed for like 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.160 it's I don't know why her friend didn't tell her 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:27.440 that was. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.359 A bad idea, Like I propose. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.880 Yeah, I feel like her friend kind of edged it 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.679 on and it just didn't seem like a good idea. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.479 He seemed like the type of guy based off the 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.000 little small introduction that we had his character that will 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.440 respond that way. He didn't seem like he was the 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.160 type that would in front of all those people be like, yes, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.720 married me after your woman just got down on one 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:48.520 year proposed? 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.680 I think that was ring cringe. Huh no, ring with 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.440 no ring, just the heart? What was that thought? That's 0:06:55.480 --> 0:07:01.279 the that's the other I thought it was how the 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.240 kids do the hard thing. I think she was pretending 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:04.680 that it was. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:12.640 Yeah, yeah, I got the box. So what that was? 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.000 That proposal cringe to you? 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.520 I mean, I've been seeing it seems it seemed like 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.080 it's becoming more normalized. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.880 I've been seeing it on I think so women proposing. Yeah, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.440 I've been seeing it on social media lately. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:25.600 I thought, you're talking about this. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.840 No, no, no, no, I've never seen so that part wasn't cringe 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:31.160 to me. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.800 I was just like it was just more so like, oh, dang, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:34.320 he about that. 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:36.960 It's kind of like I can kind of see that coming, 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.040 like he wasn't gonna be accepting of it like that. So, yeah, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.000 it was it was just what it was is Dave 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.280 Frank and jamesco. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.880 Yeah, they look alike. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.400 I was trying to figure out who he looked like 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.600 throughout the whole movie, and he looks like his brother. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.960 All right, Well, yeah, I I thought it was. It 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.160 was cringe as well. But what you're getting from that 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.720 is like, these two people are very different. She obviously 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:05.440 more outgoing, he's more kind of reserved. But I feel 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.200 like he didn't immediately say yes because the situation was 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:07.960 embarrassing for you. 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:09.840 It doesn't want that kind of thing. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.800 Well, it was awkward, like you're in the middle of 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.040 like But I think the thing is though, bro, just 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.840 say yeah, I didn't have that out later. 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.680 But I don't think that's his that's his personality. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:19.440 He's probably not. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.880 He doesn't seem to be quick thinking, and that shit 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.000 was emasculating for him. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.040 I was just about to say it already seemed like 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.520 their relationship was emasculating because people already had these like 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.360 perceptions of that she's been taken care of him and 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.960 she was the leader of the relationship. I mean, but 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.040 in front of a room full of people and everybody know, Yeah, 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:37.840 that's what I think too. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.040 Yeah, I guess he feels emasculated. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.000 And then for you to do that in front of 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.440 a group full of people, especially right after you just 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.640 got clowned by her brother. 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.920 That was too much for him. So yeah, he already. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.200 Feels inadequate because he doesn't make any money, like I've 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.280 never had that situation. But actually no, I've never had 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:00.760 the stuation where in tastes care of me. But my 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:09.280 girl makes more money than me, way more. I don't mind, though, I've. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.560 Never had a wrong with that. You know, whatever that 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:11.920 make more. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.040 Okay, that's what I'm saying. As long as you're still 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:16.760 coming home to business, I'm straight. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.440 But yeah, So while digging through their new house, Tim 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.880 finds a rat or a group of rats in the ceiling. So, Spike, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.600 what did you think about this part? 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.360 What they merged together? I couldn't tell. They had their 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:33.160 tails tied together. It was interesting, and I'm glad that 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.360 she asked him how he knew to look for that, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.679 and then the story that he gave, which I gotta 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.000 I got questions about. But I thought that was pretty 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.840 cool and still was interested in what was going on 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.840 with him finding it there and what it was going 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:46.160 to me. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.800 I never would have thought to look up there at all, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.600 so that ship was weird. But at this point I 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.800 was like, damn, the is what was in that that 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.800 water starting to seep out into the rest of the 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.080 unity and the rats that ate it. Therefore, at some 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.520 point that's how they're going to end up being infected. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.120 With it as well. Or that's what I thought happened, 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:15.040 you know, with the rats. But that was weird, Rob. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.200 What'd you think about the little rat swastika? 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:23.520 Yeah, I thought because that came that came after the dogs, right, yes, yeah, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.920 so I thought like, yeah, because rats be in sewage 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.959 and water and shit, they probably got ahold of the. 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.080 Same shit and somehow merged the same way. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.160 So that's what I thought. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.200 Yeah, I thought this part was really interesting. They do 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:40.080 explain why he was able to find the rats later, 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.160 but I guess nobody's ever seen this, but this is 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.560 called a rat king, and this is an actual thing 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.200 that happens. It's just very rare to where you know, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.720 rats will get in very tight spaces and their tails 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.600 might end up getting caught up, where their hair might 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.840 end up getting caught up. But it's kind of a 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.960 thing that some scientists say this, this is impossible. Then 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.719 other scientists say, well, no, it does happen. It just 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.160 doesn't happen a lot. But there's like it's like a phenomenon. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:14.160 It's called ratten Koonig in Germany. But yeah, so the 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:15.840 fact that he found that and pulled it out. I'm 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.800 still not sure if this had anything to do with 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.120 the water in the cave or if this has more 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.040 to do with the story that he tells later that 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.280 we'll get to. So I'm actually not sure about this part. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.920 But what did y'all think of Jamie's start with you, Spike? 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.719 Jamie was the friend, the friend, but the other guy 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.559 at the school teacher the yeah, the other teacher creepy. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.280 Yeah, I was just about to say that he gave 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.080 creep vibes. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.560 I couldn't really place my finger on what was going 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.280 on with him or if she was just like kind 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.200 of attracted to him. So that's how they were trying 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:51.000 to like portray him to have more like intrigue and 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.000 stuff to his characters. So I couldn't tell if he 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.000 was just a creep or if she liked him. But 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.360 I did like the change of pace with his character though, 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.720 like it broke away from him near of him at her, and. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.760 Just they whole thing battled in their relationship. I thought 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.760 he was interesting when he first popped up on his screen. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.920 I thought they did a really good job with him overall, 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.959 and how they made it seem like he was attracted 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.360 to her. So and yeah, I do agree that I 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.600 think they needed somebody in there. He was creepy. He 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:31.600 did seem initially somewhat innocent, and you know, so, yeah, 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:36.600 I thought it was interesting having him in it as well. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.080 Because that's what I thought. I thought he liked her, 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.319 the he was going to try to push up on her. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:43.080 You get the same thing. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.280 I mean, I knew he was going to be tied 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.439 to this whole thing that was that was going on. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.200 Just I don't know, he was that creepy. I was like, something, 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.400 he's tied to this somehow. And the giveaway for me 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.679 don't if. I don't know if this happened at this 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.920 point or not, but when she came to ring his doorbell, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.880 he had like a bill, and I was like, I 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.680 bet just the same fucking bill that's. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.040 In the in the damn cave or whatever. Yeah, that 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:07.560 was way later. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.160 Yeah, Okay, it wasn't waylater, but it wasn't. They hadn't 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.000 revealed it yet, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, So but now, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.360 even before that moment, I figured he was tied to it. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.959 So I'm going through the whole movie like just thinking, Okay, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.760 when is it gonna reveal that he's he's tied to this. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.200 So I immediately thought that it didn't that part if 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:26.960 they were trying to fool me, that it didn't work 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.400 because I always assumed he was a part of it. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.760 I assumed he was evil. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.760 I just didn't know how evil, and I couldn't tell 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:34.600 if there was flirtation. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.160 I wasn't sure what was going on. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:37.640 I thought this was gonna end up being like a 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.800 jealousy thing because he liked his girl or something. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.319 But yeah, that's what I was thinking. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.160 I definitely thought he was he was fucking weird. But so, 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.160 while on a hike the next day, they fall into 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.000 a cave and they decided to stay in there and 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:49.880 wait out the storm. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.760 But while they're in there, they drink. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.199 They drink the water, which seems kind of dumb, but 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.840 because you know, anybody that's ever been on hikes or 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.000 you know, watched nature shows, you don't walk, you don't 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.720 drink still water. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.720 You can drink running water. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.360 So I don't know why you would think going up 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.600 in a cave drinking some water was a. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.160 Good idea, but they did. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.640 But Spike, did you take anything from the story that 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.640 Tim tells about his father and the smell in the 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.200 room and how that led into. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.600 The story about his parents? I was lost. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.040 The story was interesting, and I was That's what I 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.760 wanted to hear from y'all in the sense of what 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.280 did he mean when he was saying it? Because I 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.840 got the part about the rats and how that triggered 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.800 him to look for him, and he said he'd been 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.400 sitting there with cooking flesh or whatever it may be. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.160 But I didn't understand the second part about the parrot 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.120 who was dying, Like I missed something pulled out my phone. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.360 I don't know what I missed, but I didn't get 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:45.360 what that story meant. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:46.600 Can you want to put him on the what he 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:47.160 might have missed? 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.160 No, because I wasn't thinking about it that deep. Honestly, 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.240 I thought they were just adding stuff in it to 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.320 make the movie creepy and to prolong the movie. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.080 Oh wow, Yeah, So did you get anything from it? 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:58.360 Yeah? 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.000 I mean so, I guess just ties to the whole 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.680 overall theme about like because his mother was was Uh, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.480 it's almost like she she was willing to live with 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.400 the husband even even in this state or something like that, right, 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:16.160 Like she was she was that connected with him to 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.120 a degree or whatever, like she was living with his corpse. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.160 So right, and I got. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.280 That crazy Yeah yeah yeah hm. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.440 So so yeah. I feel like that's tied to the 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:33.040 overall theme anyway. But what he was actually sounding specific 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.080 about it, I. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.640 Was just saying, what did y'all think about the story 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.720 either one of the stories that he told, what was 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.560 the other story? I know the story was about the 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.120 smell in his room, and then there was a story 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.680 about him finding his parents. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.480 I know about the smell in his room. That's when 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.120 he walked in on his mom. The story before that, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.520 you knew, that's the one I can remember. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.360 Yeah, yeah, story he smelled the like, so he smell 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.120 his dad smelled it. There was a dead rat in 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.920 the ceiling of his room, and his dad kept saying, like, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.560 why is there this smell? It's disgusting. He was tearing 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.520 his room apart, and Tim was like, I don't smell anything. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.000 I don't know what you're talking about. And then they 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.800 end up discovering that, Yeah, there's been a dead rat 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.520 in the ceiling and it's just been up here baking 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:22.360 because it's close. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:23.040 To the life picture or whatever. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.040 I guess, But that that bag is the question why 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.720 didn't Tim smell it? And it's just funny because you know, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.160 if you think about it, if somebody else walks in 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.440 your house, they'll be like, man, it smells in here. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:35.920 What is that? 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.440 And you're like, I don't know what you're talking about. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.920 The longer you're around to smell, you don't smell it anymore. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.560 You just get used to it. You come a noseblind. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:43.080 That's what it was. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.840 Yeah, nose blind, so you don't smell anything when it's 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.960 in your own house or your own room. But Tim 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:54.280 specifically says that when his dad died and his mom 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.560 didn't get up out of the bed, he smelled it 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.160 and when he opened the door, it was so bad 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.240 that he almost tasted it. And it's like, I think 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.040 that this goes to a metaphor of like or how 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.040 relationships go. But we'll talk about that later later on. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.840 But when you're talking about the mother, I think what 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.520 I took away is that the mother staying in the 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:21.359 bed with the dead father shows how Tim views codependency 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.760 when it comes to relationships, because he keeps having this 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:28.200 nightmare of the mom is just sitting there staring at him, smiling, 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.800 while his dad's bloated carcass is just laying there. And 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.760 that kind of goes to what we experienced later when 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.160 it comes to how Tim and Millie interact. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:39.240 So how does that. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.800 Relate to the rat Well, you know, if you look 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.360 at the relationship and your your relationship is fucked up 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.199 and it's staying fucked up, but you don't notice it 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.600 because you've been in it for so long, and then 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.880 when you separate from it, then you're like, oh, yeah, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.720 it was kind of fucked up, wasn't it. Ken's not 0:17:54.760 --> 0:18:01.000 following this, like his mom was looking at the door 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:02.480 and I found that dead dad. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.280 Yeah, as soon as you start talking, I put it 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.600 all together. I just I just wanted to see him 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.200