1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel Do you believe these characters are weirdos? 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer. Right over there, Tulsie Gabbared, 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: head of the I mean, she's a Director of National 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Intelligence testifying on Capitol Hill today, major hearing on global 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: threats in the ongoing Iran War. And it was the 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: first committee hearing for a possible confirmation of Mark Wayne 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Mullen as a replacement for Christy nom dhs. 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: Right, a lot of big hearings in DC today. 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: Let's go to the Mark Wayne Mullin one, because I 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: thought this was really interesting. 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 2: Now, I like Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. Is he perfect? 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: No? 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: But I see a little of myself and Mark Wayne Mullen. Really, 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: Mark Wayne Mullen looks like the kind of guy that 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: could be thrown out of a chuck e Cheese forgetting 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: a little rowdy, for being a little too over the top, 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: taking a fight with another dad. I could see Mark 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: Wayne Mullen doing that. He almost got into a throwdown 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: during a Senate hearing once with like a teamster or something, which, 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: by the way, that guy has since become friends with 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: Mark Wayne Mullen. He was there supporting Mark Wayne Mullen today. 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: Now that's not quite Dick Cheney shooting a guy in 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: the face and the other guy going, yeah, that's my fault. 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: But that's pretty strong. Yeah, uh, power move for sure. 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: And today was just kind of laying the groundwork. It 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: wasn't the big hearing. This was a committee hearing. But 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: this committee happened to be led by Rand Paul of Kentucky. Now, 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: if you don't know, Rand Paul hates Mark Wayne Mullin. 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: These two hate each other. Mark Wayne Mullen has been 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: ripping ran Paul for years because he doesn't like the 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: way that he's been wishy washy with Republican values. 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: At some point, and I'm paraphrasing here. 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Mark Wayne Mullin said, I get why his neighbor beat 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: the crap. 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Out of him. Yeah. So it's a combination of personal 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: insults and the comments about the violence and political differences. 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: Right, Mullin's called Rand Paul a snake in the grass. 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: Ran Paul's admitted he doesn't like Mullen. So Ran Paul 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: was leading this Senate hearing today in the early stages 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: of confirmation. Let's go to the junior senator from the 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: Commonwealth of Kentucky. 42 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: You went on to brag that you'd already told me 43 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: to my face that you completely understood and approved of 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: the assault. 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: Well that's a lie. 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: You got a chance today. You can either continue to 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: lie or you can correct the record. You have never 48 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: had the courage to look me in the eye and 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: tell me that the assault was justified. So today you'll 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: have your chance. 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: Today. 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: I'll give you that chance to clear the record. Tell 53 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 4: it to my face, if that's what you believe, tell 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: it to me today. Tell the world why you believe 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: I'd deserve to be assaulted from behind, have six ribs 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 4: broken and a damage lung. Tell me to my face 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: why you think I deserved it. And, while you're at it, 58 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: explained to the American public why they should trust a 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 4: man with anger issues to set the proper example for 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: Ice and Border Patrol agents. Explain to the American public 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: how a man who has no regrets about brawling in 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: a Senate committee can set a proper example for over 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand men and women who work 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: at the Department of Homeland Security. 65 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I know you guys can't see our producer, Allison. 66 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: I wish we had a dedicated camera on her even 67 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: she's laughing at Ran Paul trying to be a tough 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: guy here. 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: But what is this? 70 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: This makes for great drama and audio on our show, 71 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: But what does this have to do with his confirmation 72 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: and protect the American people with DHS. 73 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great question, Nige. Can I answer that? 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: Okay? 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,559 Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing at all. 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: It's personal. These two have blood, they hate each other. 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: Would you like to hear Mark Wayne Mullen respond, please. 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 5: If you recall back in your back in my House days, 79 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 5: we actually did have this conversation because remarks that I've 80 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 5: made you were in a room. I simply addressed that. 81 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 5: I said I could understand because of the behavior you 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: were having that I got to understand why your neighbor, 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 5: why the neighbor did what he did. As far as 84 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 5: my terms and snake in the grass, sir, I work 85 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 5: around this room to try to fix problems. I've worked 86 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 5: with many people in this room. Seems like you fight 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 5: Republicans more than you work with us. I did address 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 5: those remarks. I did explain your gimmicks by the amendment 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 5: you put forth. And as far as me saying that 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 5: I invote violence, I don't. I don't think anybody should 91 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 5: be hit by surprise. I don't like that. But if 92 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 5: I do have something to say, everybody in this room 93 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 5: knows how comes straight to you. So for you to 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 5: say I'm my liar, sir, that's not accurate. And I 95 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 5: got proof to say that because you have spent millions 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 5: of dollars in my campaigns against me, because we just 97 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 5: don't get along. However, sir, that doesn't keep me at 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: all from doing my job. I can have different opinions 99 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 5: with everybody in this room, but as Secretary of Homeland, 100 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 5: I'll be protecting everybody, including Kentucky, as much as I 101 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: will my own back guard in Oklahoma. 102 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: I thought that's a pretty good answer, I did. I 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: thought that's a good answer from Mark Wayne Mullen. 104 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: I get it. You don't like me. 105 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: You funded every opponent that I've ever had. But you 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: know what, if I get this gig, and I do 107 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: think he's going to get it, Yeah, he'll take care 108 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: of Kentucky the same way that he takes care of 109 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: his state of Oklahoma. 110 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: Well that wasn't enough for Rand Paul. 111 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: No. 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: Rand Paul kept bringing up the near fight that he 113 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: got into. 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: On the Senate floor. Let's take a little listen to 115 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: this back and forth. 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 4: Do you think fighting as a resolution for political difference 117 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: is a good example for the men and women of 118 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: Ice and Border Patrol. 119 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 5: As you can notice over my shoulder, here is my 120 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 5: good friend Sean O'Brien. 121 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: That's the guy. 122 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: Both of us had had conversations, all of us shaking hands. Well, 123 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 5: this is agreed. We could have done things different. Sean 124 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 5: is someone that has become a close friend. We talk 125 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 5: all the time. I've been on his podcast. We talked 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 5: through this. That's how you handle your differences, not like this, Chairman. 127 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: I'm glad you guys are friends now and that you've reconciled. 128 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: And really it doesn't get to the real point whether 129 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: or not you think violence is the way we settle 130 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: things in the days after the fight, you said, and 131 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: I quote, sometimes people just need to be punched in 132 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: the face. Is that still your opinion that political disputes 133 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 4: can sometimes and often only be resolved by violence. 134 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: No, I don't. I don't always agree with that. I 135 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 5: don't believe in political violence. I've made that very clear, 136 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: but sometimes people do need me Theoretically speaking, this, sir, 137 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: I get it. It's about character assassination for you. That's 138 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 5: the way this game is played, understand it. And you 139 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: are making this about you, which is fine, but that 140 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 5: doesn't keep me. 141 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 4: Your assassination when you are the one lauding the assault, 142 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 4: Who do you think started that character assassination? I'm just 143 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: repeating what you have done in character assassination. I'm repeating 144 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: your support for the assault. So that's somehow something I started. 145 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 5: No, sir, what I'm saying is you're adding a lot 146 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 5: to it. 147 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 148 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Again, the question remains, what does this have to do 149 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: with Mark Wayne mullin protecting the homeland and becoming a 150 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: secretary replacing Christy nome DH. 151 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: You know what does all this have to do with anything? 152 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: And in the YouTube chat's right, that's actually pretty calm 153 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 3: by Mark Wayne Mullen right there, because if you told 154 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: me gun to head, which person in Congress, the House 155 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: and the Senate would most likely be the first person 156 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: to rip off their shirt and go you want to go? 157 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: I got five bucks on Mark Wayne Mullen, like he's 158 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: that guy, and you know what, that's who I want 159 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: leading the homeland. You don't want some passive just wishy 160 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: washy squish, do you You don't want Rand Paul who's 161 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: more focused on how many chemicals he's going to put 162 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: in his hair than you are anything else. 163 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: I want a dude that's. 164 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: Willing to punch somebody in the face in the people's house. 165 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: That's what I want here in the homeland. That's me Rand. 166 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry your neighbor beat you up, but look, this 167 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: is the kind of fighter that I want taking care 168 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: of the homeland.