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Speaker 1: Why from Baull, Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today drawing.

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Speaker 2: I don't do drawings.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a drawing person.

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Speaker 2: I don't do drawings.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he would say, would you do a building, and

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Speaker 3: for charity stuff. But I'm not a drawing person. I

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Speaker 3: They say, there's a drawing of a woman, and I

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Speaker 2: And so this is Trump in Scotland, the trade deal

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Speaker 2: done with the EU, which has people freaking out, and

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Speaker 2: of course the questions about Epstein and did you draw this?

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Speaker 2: And did you draw that? And what does the Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal have? I don't know what the Wall Street

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Speaker 2: Journal has, doesn't have what have you? What I can

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Speaker 2: tell you is that it's not moving the needle. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into that, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to

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Speaker 2: be with you. And I'm a guy who wants the information.

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Speaker 2: And I'm the guy who has said Trump handled this

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Speaker 2: one wrong, and he rarely handles anything wrong. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know if he's cursing in this producer landing, Well,

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Speaker 2: what do you say, finger on the dumb button? Shall he? Also?

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Speaker 3: You know, Epstein was always a very controversial guy. I

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Speaker 3: all my life. In all fairness, I've been I've been

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Speaker 3: He was a very controversy. Who would do a controversial drawing. Now,

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Speaker 3: with that being said, they say there were many letters

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Speaker 3: done by many people, and in many big people, you know,

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Speaker 3: big successful people. But I just I just don't you know,

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Speaker 3: when you talk about files, I just keep going back

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Speaker 3: and other people too. Even the enemy says, this thing

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Speaker 3: is not correct because if we had it, we would

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Speaker 2: And that, of course is factual. Of course they would

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Speaker 2: this maddening road, and for those of us who want information,

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Speaker 2: we keep not getting information. It's infuriating. Did I say, hello,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, that's my name, that's the

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Speaker 2: name of the show, Tony Kats Today. It's a great

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Speaker 2: place to be. Bring your friends, cigars. Welcome. I'm smoking

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Speaker 2: a Connecticut right now. This is an aging room Connecticut

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Speaker 2: right here at Churchill so seven inch by It was

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Speaker 2: a fifty two ring gage box press. Always good for

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Speaker 2: the first cigar of the day. The trade deal is

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Speaker 2: what's getting all the talk, and rightfully so. The trade

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Speaker 2: just I think, bigger and better than people imagined. It's

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Speaker 2: the first one that makes you say, wait a second,

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Speaker 2: it's a trade deal. It says what in the world

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Speaker 2: This deal has the European Union buying energy from the

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Speaker 2: and it has to change. Someone in our chat room

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Speaker 2: The second rule trump Ism is that a deal can

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Speaker 2: They didn't think that Russians. First things first, I have

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Speaker 2: the EU. Couple things here that we need to get straight.

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Speaker 2: The Europeans always thought the Russians were a threat. What

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Speaker 2: re establishment conversation. The belief was, no matter what Russia did,

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Speaker 2: And to his credit, President Trump recognized this early and

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Speaker 2: say to you, I've seen Canada. Maybe hush yourself. I

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Speaker 2: have seen the not free, vicious Canadian people go after

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Speaker 2: phone jammers. Okay, I have no capacity to make such

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Speaker 2: that all the communists think the same way. They think.

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Speaker 2: these people are taking advantage of us. I'll do business

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Speaker 2: So lew me ask the question differently, where else were

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Speaker 2: many places do you think they were going to invest in?

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Speaker 2: What were they going to invest? Anyway? There are parts

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Speaker 2: If you look at the deal, even with my argument

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Speaker 2: the Deal's who there. It is holy cow. Even for

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Speaker 9: Oriented like she'll pick one thing and like she's like

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Speaker 9: a pit bull and she will just shake it and

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Speaker 9: shake it until it's, dead, Right like we are not that.

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00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 9: Way our show is like thirty five topics a. Morning

432
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 9: we cover. Everything it's like a large swath of topics

433
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 9: that we try to cover so everybody knows what's going

434
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Speaker 9: on in the. World everybody's. Informed we do it in

435
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Speaker 9: a fun. Way we're not fight, club you know WHAT i.

436
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 9: Mean we want to have. Fun it's everything sucks in

437
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 9: the news cycle for the most. Part there's maybe like

438
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Speaker 9: ten percent of it that's a lot of, fun and

439
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 9: so we try to lighten things. Up you know, us

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Speaker 9: you've known us for a long, Time like that's that's our.

441
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Speaker 9: Thing we want to make sure that people walk away

442
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 9: and they're not completely freaking.

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Speaker 2: Depressed you, KNOW i DON'T i get, it but there

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Speaker 2: you got the post that you put out there AND

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Speaker 2: i WOULD i would you re up? It if you

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Speaker 2: on The right by the, Way mack And daisy get

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Speaker 2: the Podcast chicks on The Right show With mack And.

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Speaker 2: DAISY i believe that's the name of. It the latest

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Speaker 2: episode is a, Right CAN ai save your marriage and your?

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Speaker 2: Wallet that's the latest episode that is. Up there's a you're,

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Speaker 2: right you Aren't you aren't talking about world Leader? Genitalia

453
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Speaker 2: how dare you not talking about the serious? Subjects but

454
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Speaker 2: there's a there's a value to, avoidance like that's a

455
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Speaker 2: weird thing to talk about because everyone's, like, yo you

456
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: got it Confront oh you got to engage or you

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00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: got there's a value to stepping away from the, Thing.

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Speaker 2: Daisy that's that's the bar we're mentioning THAT i thought was,

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Speaker 2: Interesting AND i don't know if YOU'VE i would love

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Speaker 2: to hear you kind of dig in on on that,

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Speaker 2: subject whether it's About candice or anything.

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Speaker 9: ELSE i don't think everybody wants to see a. FIGHT i,

463
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Speaker 9: MEAN i don't think everybody is in the business or

464
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Speaker 9: in the mindset of wanting to see people throw. DOWN

465
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Speaker 9: i think people are a LITTLE i think some, people not,

466
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Speaker 9: everybody because, man a lot of the people that wanted

467
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 9: to see the fight were on Our instagram page run

468
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 9: that and they wanted to see. It but there are

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00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 9: a lot of people out there who are, Like i'm

470
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 9: kind of tired, of you, know the, fighting especially between

471
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 9: so called, conservatives and they just don't want to see.

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Speaker 9: That and it's to, me it's, like, uh what is.

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Speaker 9: It it's, uh engagement. Farming it's like there's a lot

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Speaker 9: of that out there where where a lot of people

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Speaker 9: on our side are just. There you, Know i'm not

476
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Speaker 9: saying that she would get popularity from, us but she

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Speaker 9: definitely if she if we did engage and we did

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Speaker 9: some sort of a debate with, Her it's not like

479
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 9: she wouldn't have gained anything out of that. Either you.

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Speaker 9: Know everybody's just why she was looking for. It that's

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Speaker 9: absolutely that's why she wanted to. Fight, Absolutely, SO i,

482
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Speaker 9: mean people are are looking to gain followers and, clicks

483
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 9: and it's just it's all bait AND I we're just

484
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 9: that's not our. Stick that's not what we. Do we

485
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 9: don't want to. Do we're too old for, that you

486
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Speaker 9: know WHAT i. Mean we just want to put. Information it's.

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Speaker 2: True we're.

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Speaker 9: Menopausal, OKAY i have a new, Kneed, tony that's.

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Speaker 2: True So mock did have knee replacement, surgery and we

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Speaker 2: learned a lot About daisy right, there.

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Speaker 9: Right we just we just want to, like we just

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Speaker 9: want to put information out. There AND i. Understand, LISTEN

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Speaker 9: i get the whole conspiracy. Theories over the past ten

494
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 9: to fifteen. YEARS a lot of them have come. True

495
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 9: so people are not trusting of what you just put

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Speaker 9: of what you. Know just put information out there and

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Speaker 9: just expect people to take it at face. VALUE i

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Speaker 9: get that people are going to, question people are going

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Speaker 9: to want to see back and. FORTH i understand that

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Speaker 9: Because i'm one of those people who did you, know

501
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 9: who saw a lot of stuff and we were, like,

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Speaker 9: wait that's that's not.

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Speaker 2: Everything not everything's a debatable question, Though. Mock that's THE

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00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: i think that's the moral, here and.

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Speaker 8: Not everybody needs to have conversations with each. Other there

506
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Speaker 8: are plenty of people far smarter THAN i who have

507
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Speaker 8: gone to great lengths to debunk all of her, crazy

508
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 8: and more power to. Them those are the people that

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Speaker 8: she should be wanting to, debate not. Us when we're

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Speaker 8: just commenting on the surface of what we're, seeing which is.

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Speaker 8: Terrifying and we believe that she's contributing to the rise

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Speaker 8: of Anti semitism in the country in.

513
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Speaker 9: A, big big.

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Speaker 8: Way AND i don't want to have anything to do with.

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Speaker 8: That and so, AMEN i haven't gone down her rabbit.

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Speaker 8: Holes and, maybe you, know maybe she's taken a piece

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Speaker 8: of something and like there's an element of truth to

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Speaker 8: whatever piece that she's grabbed a hold. OF i find

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Speaker 8: it disgusting and her audience is not. Worth it's what

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Speaker 8: she would give to us is just not. Worth how

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Speaker 8: we feel about talking to someone that we feel is

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Speaker 8: that deluded.

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Speaker 9: Ghost and it's. Heartbreaking it's heartbreaking that so many of

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Speaker 9: those people who are freaking home acousta iiers are on our.

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Speaker 9: SIDE i, don't LIKE i, said we've been doing this

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Speaker 9: for a long, time and like this is the first

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Speaker 9: time we've ever seen, This.

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Speaker 6: Like how are you? How?

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Speaker 9: Yeah how are you?

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Speaker 5: Me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah because Of Candace, Owens, well because you're because of

532
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Speaker 2: all the things that she's, propagating because of how bad

533
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: things have become For, Jews yeah over the.

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Speaker 9: Place screw. HER i think that's just her Though. Tony oh, WAIT.

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Speaker 2: I got, HER i Got Dave, SMITH i Got, TUCKER

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Speaker 2: i got a whole host of. People stay with a

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Speaker 2: lot of. People stay with me right, here AND i

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Speaker 2: will tell. YOU i will tell you in the, break

539
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Speaker 2: and Then i'll share with everybody WHAT i said to

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Speaker 2: them in the. Break that Is, daisy that is mocked

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Speaker 2: there The chicks on The. Right you can find the

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Speaker 2: Website chicks On right dot com and the Podcast chicks

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Speaker 2: on The Right show with Mockin. Daisy subscribe, now because,

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Speaker 2: uh they are engagement farming with me right, now and dang,

545
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Speaker 2: it they want. Results keep it. Here I'm Tony. Kats tariff, Rebates, no,

546
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Speaker 2: thanks this is not this is not WHAT i was

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Speaker 2: going for, Here, Kats Tony kats, today good to be

548
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: with you AS i talk about tariffs and the trade

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00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: deal with THE. Eu President trump now floating the idea

550
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: of Giving americans a rebate from tariff revenue and putting

551
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: out there that we're thinking about, that, actually we have

552
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: so much money coming in from the, tariff we're thinking

553
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: about a little, rebate and a little rebate for people

554
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: of a certain income level might be very. Nice if

555
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: you tell me you're going to use tariff quote unquote

556
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: revenue to pay down the. DEBT i don't like the

557
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: tariffs as, policy But i'll take it if you tell

558
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: me you're going to use tariff revenue to then give

559
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: people money. Back that's wealth re. Distribution AND i am

560
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: not interested because you didn't say that the rebate would

561
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: go to the people paying the. Tariff you said it

562
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: would go to the people based on an income. Level

563
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: and that sounds like something that The democrats would come up,

564
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: With reason number ninety. Bajillion i'm not a, populist but it's.

565
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: It and by the, WAY i Think President trump can

566
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: handle this. Conversation one of the weirdest things in the.

567
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: World and people like you can't disagree with the. MAN

568
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: i think you absolutely. Can just don't hate the. Guy

569
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: if there's ANYTHING i have ever learned about, him it's

570
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: at this idea That trump can't handle a criticism or

571
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: a disagreement totally. Untrue he wants it to be, fair

572
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: AND i believe it is totally. Unfair, right he wants

573
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: the criticism to be. FAIR i think it's unfair to, say,

574
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 2: hey you people pay the. Tariff now these other people

575
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: they get a little something back based on, income because

576
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: it would seem to me that if we're talking about

577
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: tariffs on on, steel, well then the steel producers are

578
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: the one or people utilized are the ones paying for this?

579
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: Tariff now who's getting it? Back the company that's buying

580
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: this deal from name the place That's it doesn't, Jive

581
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't, work AND i think it complicates to a

582
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: point of. Problematic if you're saying we took in one

583
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: hundred and forty billion, dollars we just paid off one

584
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: hundred and forty billion dollars worth of, Debt i'd be

585
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: okay with. That, now Maybe i'm a. Sucker Maybe i've

586
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: just got a soft. Spot if you said to, me

587
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: we took in one hundred and forty billion, dollars we

588
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: need more nurses In, america so we just paid off

589
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: every bit of nursing debt that's out, there and we

590
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: will pay for nursing school for the next ten thousand

591
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: people who want to become, Nurses i'd, say, well that's

592
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: actually a natural security. Conversation i'd be okay with, that

593
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: with the latter even more than the, Former, RIGHT i

594
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: could see my way clear to, Things but you can't

595
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: say we took this money in from this, group and

596
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: now we're gonna give you this group a. Check that's

597
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: something THAT aoc And Chris murphy could. Announce AND i

598
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: don't Think President trump wants to be around things that

599
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: associate himself with a Representative Casi cortes and The beta.

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00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: Mail Chris murphy can't imagine he wants that. Now not

601
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: in for this, idea wasn't in to Hear letterman's latest

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Speaker 2: On colbert, Either but here we. Are keep it. Here

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Speaker 2: Tony Katches today