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Speaker 1: Jason Hammer on half of the Hammer and Nigel Show,

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Speaker 1: joins us Now on the WIBC Hotline. He was among

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Speaker 1: the first to report the news on the Mark Sanchez altercation.

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Speaker 1: By the way, there's press conference coming up today at

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Speaker 1: eleven are supposed to be featuring the mary And County

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Speaker 1: Prosecutor Ryan Meers. Jason Amber joins us now Hammer.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, and yeah, what a wild news day. Because

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Speaker 2: I know how it works. When you guys leave the

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Speaker 2: office on Friday, you have to record what's called a promo, right,

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Speaker 2: a little something to talk about your show coming up

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Speaker 2: on Monday, But you have no idea what's going to

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Speaker 2: happen over the weekend. So sometimes they're just generally vague.

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Speaker 2: But man, what a Monday we've all walked into here.

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Speaker 1: Now, you were among the first to get it right,

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Speaker 1: you and JMV that this was going down. I know

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Speaker 1: you're not going to reveal your sources, like how does

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Speaker 1: this sort of thing land in your lap?

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Speaker 2: So I've got a buddy that I trust very much

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Speaker 2: on the inside and sent me a message early early

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Speaker 2: Saturday that said, Hey, this was Mark Sanchez that was

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Speaker 2: involved in the stabbing last night, and at the time

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Speaker 2: we didn't know the condition of Mark, and source was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know the condition on him. I'm here and

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Speaker 2: it's pretty bad, but I'm also hearing he was the aggressor.

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay. So around the same time, you know,

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Speaker 2: JMV and I start talking because he's got his people,

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Speaker 2: I've got my people, and we're hearing the exact same story.

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Speaker 2: So our stories corroborated, and it was around that time

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Speaker 2: that a producer of TMZ puts something out. It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: all right, it's out there now. So I put something

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Speaker 2: on our Twitter and our social media saying this rumor

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Speaker 2: has been out there for a while. Still no comment

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Speaker 2: from the IMPD, but will follow this story as it development.

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Speaker 2: And throughout the next couple of hours, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people got that story wrong. Adam Schefter a ESPN goes

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Speaker 2: out there and says Mark Sanchez was stabbed in an

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Speaker 2: attempted robbery, which wasn't even close to being the truth.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, my source, again we're very fortunate to have

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Speaker 2: some ties to law enforcement in this community, was spot

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Speaker 2: on with the information. But it was also important that

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Speaker 2: we got the story right.

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Speaker 1: Jason Hammer, or one half of the Hammer and Nigel

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Speaker 1: Show joins us today via phone on the WIBC hotline. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so the delete tweet is a bad look for the

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Speaker 1: governor and Lieutenant governor because you look like cowardly got

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Speaker 1: something to hide. You give Mirror sort of a freebee

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Speaker 1: to take a shot at you. But the overarching theme

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Speaker 1: of all this is Indianapolis is a super violent place.

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Speaker 1: Whether Mark Sanchez was the aggressor or the victim, Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: is very, very, very violent, and between the mayor and

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Speaker 1: the prosecutor and the judicial system, it just doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like anybody's taking the lead on changing it.

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Speaker 2: To play a little round of two things can be

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Speaker 2: true at the same time and put this out over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, Yeah, I think Indianapolis should be off the

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Speaker 2: hook for the Mark Sanchez stabbing. Right to me, this

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Speaker 2: is the case of FAFO Mark Sanchez wink fooled around

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Speaker 2: and found out. But at the same time, Indianapolis also

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Speaker 2: still has a higher homicide rate per capita than Chicago

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Speaker 2: by ten percent according to the recent numbers provided by

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Speaker 2: the FOP. So two things can be true here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't blame Indy for what happened to Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like it was a Mark Sanchez situation. But

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Speaker 2: let's not sit around here and act like this is

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Speaker 2: Pleasantville either when you've got a higher homicide rate than Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I wish people would get asked fired up about a

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Speaker 2: delete tweet. I'm sorry as about our crime rate as

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Speaker 2: they do about a delete tweet. What do you think

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Speaker 2: people are going to remember at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: In regards to Mark Sanchez, what's going to bet fumble

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Speaker 2: butt fumble back than butt fumble, Cacy, It's always going

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Speaker 2: to be butt fumble once we get through this story

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Speaker 2: five years from now, it's always going to be butt fumble.

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Speaker 2: But in regards to locally right local story, the local

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Speaker 2: news cycle here, uh, Mark, We're going to find out

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Speaker 2: a lot in the next couple of days. I'm hearing video.

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Speaker 2: I want to find out why he was in the alley,

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Speaker 2: what condition he was in. Like, Before we make any

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Speaker 2: judgments on what we're going to remember about Mark Sanchez,

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Speaker 2: let that stuff come out, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: rumors about stuff going on. If that stuff comes out,

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Speaker 2: you know me, I'm a gambler. I'm betting it's not

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Speaker 2: going to look good for the former USC quarterback. Then

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that right now twenty years yes,

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Speaker 2: real quick, real quick, go back to two things can't

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Speaker 2: be true. At the same time, Braun and beckwith yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't delete tweets. We've had I have this conversation. I've

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Speaker 2: told their staff this, nobody likes delete tweet guide, nobody

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Speaker 2: stop deleting tweets, put out a correction later on, and

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Speaker 2: just own it. It'll be so much better for you.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, again, why are people so

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Speaker 2: concerned about a delete tweet and not the crime rate?

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Speaker 2: That's my issue. I live here. I live in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I'm basically a lifer. Grew up on the East Side

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Speaker 2: with my grandparents and my mom and my dad. I

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Speaker 2: played baseball at east Side on brook Side. I played

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Speaker 2: football at Christian Park. Moved to Beach Grove when I

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Speaker 2: was about ten. So I've always been around Marion County,

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Speaker 2: give or take a few ball state years. I'm a

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Speaker 2: lifer here. I live in Indie. Now, I wish people

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Speaker 2: gave a damn about the way the crime situation is

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Speaker 2: right now. The way they do about a delete tweet,

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Speaker 2: it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I know, we got to go here. But

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Speaker 1: who would have thought twenty years ago Hammer, if you'd

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Speaker 1: have said Mark Sanchez, that would would have more arrests

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Speaker 1: than Jason Hammer and Rob Kendall combined.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, you want to get nuts, that's a let's

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Speaker 2: get nuts.

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Speaker 1: You're off today, so we'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you