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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey there, everybody, happy fry d one and all.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer.

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Speaker 1: I'm in for Tony Katz today on Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, So glad I can join you and you

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Speaker 1: can join me. On this Friday, we got a jam

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Speaker 1: Pack show, Kingsai Show.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be joined in a little bit by

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Speaker 2: Paul Teller.

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Speaker 1: He's a long time have actually worked for a Vice

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Speaker 1: President Pence for a long time, both at the White

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Speaker 1: House and for his think tank Advancing American Freedom. Are

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Speaker 1: going to get the latest from him on what's going

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Speaker 1: on in DC with this shutdown that's happening. We got

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Speaker 1: Terry Wilcox, who's the co founder and chief mission officer

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Speaker 1: Was hoping we were going to get Mike Eruzionikaruzioni, the

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Speaker 1: captain of the USA nineteen eighty Olympic team, if we

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Speaker 1: get in there from him, Well, we're going to try

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Speaker 1: to get him on, but he's he's busy. There's this

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Speaker 1: new Netflix documentary out today on the nineteen eighty The

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Speaker 1: miracle on ice teams. I got some audio from from

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Speaker 1: that I want to circle back on. So, by the way,

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Speaker 1: got a new email for me on the radio as

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Speaker 1: I promised, as I said I was going to do.

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Speaker 1: Didn't do it for Wednesday show. Did it for the

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Speaker 1: show that I did yesterday. Andrew Langer Radio gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you want to reach me while I'm on the air,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Langer Radio gmail dot com is the best way

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Speaker 1: to do it. L A, N G, E R all

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Speaker 1: one word, doesn't matter if you capitalize it or not.

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Speaker 1: You can also at me on on Twitter at Andrew

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Speaker 1: underscore Langer. I keep tabs of those things while I

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Speaker 1: am on the air. So on Wednesday, I played a

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Speaker 1: clip of Josh Shapiro, the Governor of Pennsylvania, and he

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Speaker 1: was talking talking about the Biden administration promising to do

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Speaker 1: xit doing none of it. And I made a comparison

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Speaker 1: to monipot that here's the original clip. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: to I'll end and play cut number one.

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Speaker 3: The Biden Harrison administration didn't provide those specific tangible things

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Speaker 3: that people could see or feel. I'll give you a

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Speaker 3: very specific concrete example. One of the biggest things holding

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Speaker 3: back our rural communities is a lack of high speed

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Speaker 3: affordable internet. Some people call that broadband. I've got two

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty six thousand homes and businesses without it.

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Speaker 3: I was incredibly proud of President Biden when they got

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Speaker 3: that infrastructure bill passed to provide the billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: that were needed to plug everybody and connect everybody in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: And do you know how many people scott this many

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Speaker 3: years later have been connected to high speed affordable internet

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Speaker 3: thanks to President Biden law in Pennsylvania. Zero because the

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Speaker 3: dollars we can end it there, so zero zero. And

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Speaker 3: I was reminded of this Monty Python bit from the

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Speaker 3: season two of Monty Python. I'll let's go ahead and

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Speaker 3: land them play cut number two.

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Speaker 4: In your plan a better Britain for Us, you claim

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Speaker 4: that you would build eighty eight thousand million billion houses

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Speaker 4: a year in the Greater London area alone. In fact,

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Speaker 4: you built only three in the last fifteen Yeah. I'm

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Speaker 4: a bit disappointed with this result. No, no, I'd like

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Speaker 4: to answer this question if I may, in two ways,

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Speaker 4: First in my normal voice and then in a kind

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Speaker 2: I need to use that at some point I want

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Speaker 2: I need to answer.

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Speaker 1: I want to answer this in two ways, first in

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Speaker 1: my normal voice and second in a kind of silly,

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Speaker 1: high pitched wine. The interesting thing, yeah, this is this

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Speaker 1: is exactly what happened. So many promises that weren't kept.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, Josh Shapiro, he does something lean

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Speaker 1: to do me favorite play that cut again. I know

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Speaker 1: to hear the beginning of it, because he said something

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Speaker 1: that I didn't comment on on Wednesday, and I want

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and play cut number one.

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Speaker 3: The Biden Harrison administration didn't provide those specific tangible things

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Speaker 1: Give you stop it, stop it. That's not why they lost.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that may be one reason why they lost,

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Speaker 1: but it was everything else that they did wrong. It

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Speaker 1: what he is pointing out, by the way, is the

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Speaker 1: problem with the Gavin Newsom administration and Gavin Newsom's governorship.

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Speaker 2: As he tries to translate that.

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Speaker 1: Into into a run for the presidency, by the way,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Yesterday, James Carville tweeted out that.

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Speaker 2: He thinks that JB.

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Speaker 1: Pritzker, the governor of ill is the best hope that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have going into twenty twenty eight, and all

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty eight. We're all optimistic there's going to

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Speaker 1: be an election. I think that's a good thing, especially

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Speaker 1: given some of the some of what we're some of

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Speaker 1: the rhetoric we've been hearing about civil wars this week.

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Speaker 1: But you know, out of my list of Democrats who

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Speaker 1: it is literally like Michael Dukakis versus George H. W.

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Speaker 1: Bush all over again. And by the way, listen, that

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Speaker 1: Right when you put Hillary Clinton next to Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, the contrast could not have been more stark.

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Speaker 1: You know, in twenty twenty four, it was you know,

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Speaker 1: not want to stand up next to Donald Trump. Folks

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Speaker 2: So listen.

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Speaker 1: The breaking news this morning, though, is that is that

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon. Don Lemon was arrested for his activity. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't, if you don't know what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about here, here is Don Lemon, a couple of weekends ago,

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and play cut number three. This is

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Speaker 2: the beginning of what's going to happen here.

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Speaker 5: When you violate people's due process, when you pull people

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Speaker 5: And if you remember what the civil rights movement was about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's you've stopped it there, So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I'm really glad I have that clip, really glad

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Speaker 6: Five, serving escalation against reporting in America.

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Speaker 6: It in the framework of protests. You know, this is

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Speaker 6: seen makes the administration sorry, full stop.

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Speaker 1: Full stop. The meme this morning, the theme this morning

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Speaker 1: M snow what I call ms NOW or what used

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Speaker 2: This is the beginning of what's going to happen here.

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Speaker 5: When you violate people's due process, when you pull people.

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Speaker 1: Off the street and you start your full stoping, full stop.

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Speaker 1: That is not reporting. That is not journalism, that is advocacy.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain this is an important distinction here. What

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, what I did was not reporting. I never

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Speaker 1: a journalist doing journalist things. I do analysis and advocacy.

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Speaker 1: That's a big difference. Now that's not to say that

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon doesn't have First Amendment rights to engage in.

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Speaker 2: Advocacy. Obviously he does.

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Speaker 1: We can spend a lot of time and you will

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Speaker 1: not find a more staunch defender of the First Amendment

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Speaker 1: of the rights to free speech than me, frankly. But

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Speaker 1: the First Amendment to engage in illegal activity or on

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon can do his advocacy thing.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: If Don Lemon were sitting in his apartment doing his

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he trespassed into a church that

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Speaker 2: I may have.

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Speaker 1: Explained this before, let me make it really clear so

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Speaker 1: you all understand. And if you're having conversations with your

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Speaker 1: is what you tell them. I have the fundamental right

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Speaker 1: respectively to the people. Those are the ninth to ten Amendments.

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Speaker 1: So you have a right to express yourself. I have

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Speaker 1: the right to wave my hands around in a wild

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Speaker 2: I have the right to do it.

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Speaker 1: But if my wild interpretive dance by waving my hands around,

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Speaker 1: like imagine a lane from Seinfeld, Imagine she's waving her

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Speaker 1: I am not protected by the First Amendment when I

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Speaker 1: go and I hurt that person's That's not what the

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Speaker 1: First Amendment encompasses. That's not what your right to free

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Speaker 1: to church on that Sunday, they had the right to

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: from other states that are that are cooperating.

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Speaker 2: That's not going into this.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We're also not going to accept any reapportionment, any kind

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Speaker 1: of new map making that that goes down this, you

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Speaker 1: know that that incorporates immigrant populations, illegal immigrant operations, non

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Speaker 1: citizen populations. We're not going We're not going to accept that.

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Speaker 1: And let's see.

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Speaker 2: How long you survive here. I mean, that's that's the

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Speaker 2: bottom line. At the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: Elections have consequences. Policy decisions have consequences. Substance matters is

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Speaker 1: a phrase that I've used quite a bit in the past.

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Speaker 1: I try to use it when I can today. But

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Speaker 1: you know, to quote Winston wolf In in pulp fiction,

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Speaker 1: you don't want my help. Lots of luck, gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, Yeah, you know it's it's let me let me,

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Speaker 1: let me actually play this down. Then let me use

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Speaker 1: that as the entree into the Civil War rhetoric. Here's

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Speaker 1: a supercut that was put together. But I want to

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Speaker 1: say Western Lensman on on Twitter, this is Tim Waltz,

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Speaker 1: This is Larry Krasner in Philadelphia, This is Hakeem Jeffries

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Speaker 1: in New York. The Senate, I'm sorry, the House Minority leader.

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Speaker 1: So the person who wants to be Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 1: here is their rhetoric. Let's play cut number seven.

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Speaker 2: But I think the reality has sunk in this week.

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Speaker 12: If you thought you could pass this by and you

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Speaker 12: thought there was nothing there, I mean, is this a

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Speaker 12: Fort Sumter.

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Speaker 2: This is a small bunch of wanna be Nazis. If

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Speaker 2: we have to hunt.

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Speaker 12: You down the way they hunted down Nazis for decades,

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Speaker 12: we will got to go.

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Speaker 2: We are dead serious. She needs to be put on

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Speaker 2: ice permanently.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, it doesn't It doesn't get much

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Speaker 1: more stark than this. And the clip got a little

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Speaker 1: bit clipped off there at the beginning. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: why that was, but essentially, essentially what Tim Waltz said

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Speaker 1: was this is uh, this this week, this activity, the

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Speaker 1: pretty shooting was there was Fort Sumter.

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Speaker 2: We all know what happened.

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Speaker 1: We had four years of a bloody conflict in America.

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Speaker 1: That's what Tim Waltz is saying is happening. That's what's

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Speaker 1: Oh God, I got asked this question on the Area yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I gave it a good answer. Whether

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Speaker 1: or not we're in a cold civil war, we are

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Speaker 1: certainly more divided by the way.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: You might recall that there were foreign powers watching the

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Speaker 1: American Civil War and salivating over what it might mean

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Speaker 1: in terms of their ability to reconquer American territories. Harry Turtledove,

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Speaker 1: when he wrote his Various Alternative Histories, talks about this

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Speaker 1: about protracted war and a divided America and the British

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Speaker 1: sort of reinvading and creating a two front war. I

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Speaker 1: mean again, that's historical alternative fiction.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 2: The Philadelphia DA was asked about this on CNN this morning.

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Speaker 2: Let's play cut number eight.

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Speaker 7: Can we just start at first on your comments when

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Speaker 7: you said you're going to hunt down these federal agents.

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Speaker 8: I mean, under.

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Speaker 2: Had a lot of questions about that.

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Speaker 12: Well, I'll tell you that KKK was very upset. They

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Speaker 12: sent me communications. So did a bunch of other white supremacists. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: that's criticism coming from them. I had one explaining that

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Speaker 12: I should die in a gas chamber, just like in

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Speaker 12: the good old days of nineteen thirty nine. There are

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Speaker 12: some people who are all in on a fascist takeover

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Speaker 12: this country who do not like the comparison to what

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Speaker 12: happened in Nazi Germany.

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Speaker 2: But the point I was making is actually very straightforward.

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Speaker 12: When you kill people, we can time out timeout.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you want to talk about conflation and

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Speaker 1: mental gymnastics, the Nazis.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: This is not to say that there are not Nazis

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Speaker 1: in America. There are Nazis in America, There are Nazis

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Speaker 1: in Germany. Still, there are Nazis in all kinds of places.

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Speaker 1: You know that that happens. These are horrible people, horrible people.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, the Nazi are itching for the

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Speaker 1: conflict that you're talking about, Larry Krasner, Right, But that's

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Speaker 1: the you are conflating now. People raising a legitimate criticism.

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Speaker 2: Of your rhetoric.

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Speaker 1: The Nazis are spoiling for a fight, without a doubt,

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Speaker 1: But that's that's not where the criticism is coming from.

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Speaker 1: People who have a legitimate beef with what you're saying

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Speaker 1: and the amping up of rhetoric. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: when you lump all of your political opponents in with

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Speaker 1: the folks who criticize everybody, whether you're a Republican or

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, whether you are a Jew or a Christian, whether.

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Speaker 2: You are white or black.

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Speaker 1: Right, when you when you lump that in with folks

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Speaker 1: who have a political beef with you, it undercuts your

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Speaker 1: argument totally and entirely, by the way, about this Civil

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Speaker 1: War rhetoric.

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Speaker 2: Before we go to the break, Let's.

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Speaker 1: Hear let's hear Scott Jennings, always the voice of reason

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Speaker 1: on CNN, he raised this issue of Tim Waltz in

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Speaker 1: Fort Sumter. Let's play that number twelve.

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Speaker 13: He said today that he thought maybe this was like

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Speaker 13: the next Fort Sumter. And when I Governor Wall said that,

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Speaker 13: and previously he had referenced the Battle of Gettysburg. And

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Speaker 13: so when I hear that kind of language coming out

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Speaker 13: of a governor, the sort of fantasizing about an American

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Speaker 13: Civil War, first of all, I don't think he stopped

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Speaker 13: to consider who that makes him in this entire endeavor

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Speaker 13: Davis spoiler alert. And number two, if you wanted more calm,

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Speaker 13: if you wanted a little bit more cooperation, if you

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Speaker 13: wanted to ratchet things down, you would not be referencing

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Speaker 13: the first shots of the Civil War and maybe thinking

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Speaker 13: that we're in the middle of another one.

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Speaker 2: You agree or.

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Speaker 14: Disagree, We don't want to get into a debate about

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Speaker 14: political rhetoric. I don't think because.

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Speaker 13: Do you like the Fort Sumter language?

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Speaker 3: I don't like it, but I.

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Speaker 14: Don't like a lot of things that I hear in

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Speaker 14: our political atmosphere, but I just constantly embaffled by when

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Speaker 14: it is directed at conservatives, they suddenly want to clutch

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Speaker 14: their little pearls, and then when they constantly egg and

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Speaker 14: ramp up the you do like it? No, I don't

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Speaker 14: like it at all. But what I'm saying is what

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Speaker 14: I'm saying is called it on both sides.

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Speaker 2: Which I'll never do.

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Speaker 1: See, you only want to just engaged in a massive

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Speaker 1: circular argument. At the at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: it's not pearl clutching. It's not pearl clutching. When the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States was shot at on the

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Speaker 1: campaign trail by a crazy person, Listen, setting aside whatever

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Speaker 1: ideology the kid in Pennsylvania had or the crazy person

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Speaker 1: in Florida, Right, the crazy person didn't actually get a

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Speaker 1: chance to take a shot at.

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Speaker 2: The president, but showed up to do that. Right.

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Speaker 1: What it is at the end of the day is

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Speaker 1: it is you know, when you re eat these situations

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Speaker 1: and you incite people to do these things, the folks

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Speaker 1: who have these marginal personalities, they are gonna get involved,

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Speaker 1: and they are gonna they don't they don't know how

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Speaker 1: to moderate themselves.

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Speaker 2: They're just taking their cues. You know, this is.

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Speaker 1: How Charlie Kirk got assassinated. This is how the crazy

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Speaker 1: person showed up at the congressional baseball game practice in Alexandria,

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Speaker 1: Virginia and started shooting with a semi automatic weapon.

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Speaker 2: That is the end.

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Speaker 1: Result here, and it's not pearl clutching to say there

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Speaker 1: is something fundamentally wrong. Listen, when we come back, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about Tim Waltz trying to be too cute

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Speaker 1: by half. I'm Andrew langer In for Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. I am Andrew langer In

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Speaker 1: for Tony Katz Today. You can join the conversation. Andrew

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Speaker 1: Langer Radio at gmail dot com is the new email address.

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Speaker 2: At me on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You can also call three one seven six four three

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Speaker 1: eighty seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: I love getting phone calls from folks would disagree with me.

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Speaker 1: If you think I'm I'm under selling this issue, please

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Speaker 1: please let me know. The next hour we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about this story. We're getting a car for the

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Speaker 1: indie of the DC Indie race. That's about America's two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth. Then, of course stuff's coming out from

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Speaker 1: the usual corners. They're angry about this because they're angry

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Speaker 1: about everything. Wanted to play this so you know, the

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Speaker 1: big announcement in the last couple of weeks. A Tim

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Speaker 1: Walt's not running for reelection. But he also said that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't going to run for another office. And if

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Speaker 1: you thought that might mean that he wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: do anything, think again, he might be playing too cute

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Speaker 1: by half. Here is Liz Collins. She's done a really

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Speaker 1: interesting documentary about what's going on in Minnesota. Here she

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Speaker 1: is on Fox this morning. Let's play cut number.

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Speaker 7: Thirteen, Governor Walso, you'll notice Jesse careful to say that

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Speaker 7: he will not run for public office again. However, Senator

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Speaker 7: Immy Cklobashar could still appoint him to her Senate seat.

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Speaker 2: Also interesting to.

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Speaker 7: Note that Senator Clobashar in her announcement did not mention

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Speaker 7: President Trump today by name. She did say that she

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Speaker 7: was going to root out fraud. But that's hard for

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Speaker 7: many of us to believe. She's been a senator for

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Speaker 7: nearly twenty years. She has been silent on the issue

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Speaker 7: of Somali fraud. In Minnesota.

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Speaker 13: Wait, so, Liz, are you saying there's a deal between

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Speaker 13: Walls and Amy She's going to appoint him to be

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Speaker 13: a senator.

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Speaker 7: It is a possibility, And I thought the word choice

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Speaker 7: in that interview last night was quite interesting. But here

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Speaker 7: on the ground, I think police officers are feeling a

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Speaker 7: bit relieved. I've been speaking to them through this whole process.

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Speaker 7: You know, many of them couldn't do their jobs, especially

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Speaker 7: in Minneapolis before, but Holman seems to have changed things here.

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Speaker 7: We saw mass arrests in media.

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Speaker 1: So that's the idea, is is playing the usual political

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Speaker 1: word games. Tim Walter said he won't run for office again.

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Speaker 1: Whether not that means it gets appointed to the United

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Speaker 1: States Senate is something else entirely leaving that open there,

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Speaker 1: and wouldn't wouldn't that be wonderful? So listen, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about this issue of the the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,

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Speaker 1: the semi sesquintennial anniversary, IndyCar that the US government is

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Speaker 1: paying for, and the outcry that has happened there. God,

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Speaker 1: some people, some people have too much time on their

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Speaker 1: hands with these with getting angry about stuff, getting angry

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Speaker 1: about someone whose favorite drink is ice water with extra ice,

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Speaker 1: and seeing the politics and that when you're a hammer,

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Speaker 1: everything looks like a nail. Plus Paul Teller, he's going

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Speaker 1: to be joining us long time DC hand to go

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Speaker 1: on what's going on, what's happening with the shutdown, the

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Speaker 1: government shutdown, if that's going to happen this weekend, Plus

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Speaker 1: your emails and messages. Andrew Langer Radio at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Kats Today, and

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