1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: The approach is going to combine economic leverage along with 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: selective openings, sometimes framed by analysis some sort of Cuba 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Stroika strategy. It's aimed at encouraging market reforms inside of Cuba. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: The Trump administration already preparing a possible economic deal with 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Cuba that is supposed to be announced sometime soon. You've 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: got Donald Trump saying Cuban officials are now actively negotiating 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: with him and the Secretary of State Marco Rubio. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: Did I hear you use the word Cuba stroika. 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: That's what they're calling it. 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 4: That is okay. So that is a Cold War callback. 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: So if you're younger than forty five, you may not 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: remember the words para stroika and glass nose. Those were 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: the words that former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev used to 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: describe the reforms that he was trying to institute in 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: his country. I find it fascinating that they're bringing up 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: one of those words again and applying it to the 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: communist regime in Cuba. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: Here. In twenty twenty six, Trump. 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Described Cuba as being at the end of the line economically. 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: They've got severe shortages. 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Of money on oil and it has forced the island 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: into crisis. Some of the potential agreements could include relaxing 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: some US sanctions, easing travel restrictions for Americans do it 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: through tourism, also deals involving ports, energy, and tourism, and 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: negotiations have repeatedly included the idea of a exit for 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: their president while the Castro family remains in Cuba. 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: I think this is whatever ends up happening in Cuba 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: is going to be upon us real, real quick. 30 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: And I know we've got a lot going on. 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: Shoot, we just had gotten over what happened in Venezuela 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: and you know, taking Maduro and putting them in a 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: New York jail cell. And now we've got what's going 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: on in Iran. Last week we were teaming up with 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Ecuador to battle the cartels in their country. But what 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: happens in Cuba is going to happen really, really fast, 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: because here's the problem. They produce virtually nothing. Almost everything 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: is imported to that country, especially the big things like energy. 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: Oil is a huge thing there. They've had blackouts now 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: for weeks. Lights are only on maybe an hour or 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: two a day, medical shortages, food shortages, it's a real problem. 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: From Cuba. 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: They don't have any other options there. Essentially, President Trump 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: is negotiating to them with a gun to their head 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: because they don't have any other options. China's not coming 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: to save them, Russia's not coming to save them, Venezuela 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: is not coming to save them anymore. Something is going 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: to happen. And my guess is it's gonna be a 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 3: lot bigger whatever it ends up being, It's gonna be 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: a lot bigger than just some travel restrictions or maybe 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: getting rid of that band. Trump's gonna want the same 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: thing there that he's gotten Venezuela, which is somebody that 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: he approves of running that country. Oh and by the way, 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: you don't run it the way we want, we're gonna 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: take you out and we'll put somebody else in there. 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: So what you've got here is economic incentives doing the 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: heavy lifting rather than military conflict. And that is appealing 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: to a lot of people because that does focus on 59 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: power and influence rather than conflict, and it's more than 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: just symbolic gestures. 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham, there he is again. 62 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: Can we fight out? Can we just all over? Can 63 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: we news all weekend? 64 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: We go fifteen minutes without hearing Lindsey Graham in the 65 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: news and his opinion on whatever topic. 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: No, we can't biggest cootie I've ever seen, But man 67 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: he's got We started off the show with him and 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: his fighting words, and guess what, he's still got more 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: fighting words, this time for Cuba. 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 5: Mean I'm not looking for a fair fight. If we 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: get in a fight, I want to win it. 72 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: I want to win it quick. 73 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 5: I'm in Miami. You see this at Free Cuba, stay tuned. 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: The liberation of Cuba is upon us. It's just a 75 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 5: matter of time. 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Now. 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: You see this at Make a Ron Great. President Trump said, 78 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 5: the only way to make a Ron great is for 79 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 5: the people to take over. We're marching through the world. 80 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 5: We're cleaning out the bad guys. We're going to have 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 5: relationships with new people that will make us prosper us 82 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 5: and say, I've never seen anybody like it. This is 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: Ronald Ragland plus. Donald Trump is resetting the world in 84 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 5: a way nobody got a dreamed of a year ago. 85 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: He is the greatest commander in chief of all time. 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: Our military is the best of all time. Aroan is 87 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 5: going down, and Cuba is next. 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: He could not be more excited to say we are 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: marching across the world. 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: I thought he was going to blow an O ring there. 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: He was so excited. 92 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to I haven't seen the video, but the 93 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: way he was talking, I'm gonna guess his face was 94 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: bright red the entire time. 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: He was so excited. It's a big deal. Cuba. 96 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: The people in Cuba have suffered under communist dictatorships for 97 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: sixty years. And while there's been plenty of you know, 98 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: disasters from the Bay of Pigs and sanctions on Cuba, 99 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: and now there's a blockade on Cuba, the people of 100 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: Cuba have suffered long enough, and hopefully, hopefully. 101 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 4: They will get some freedom in the near future. And 102 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: I think it is going to go. 103 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: I think we're probably weeks, if not, maybe a couple 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: of months away from this happened. 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: Well, Donald Try he's saying Cuba is in its last moments. 106 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 6: I've been hearing as a little boy, i'd be hearing 107 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 6: about Cuba. You know, Cuba is a disaster. But I've 108 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 6: been hearing so much about Cuba. But Cuba is in 109 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 6: its last moments of life. 110 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 4: As it was. 111 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 6: It'll have a great new life, but it's in its 112 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 6: last moments of life the way it is. But our 113 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 6: focus right now is on Iran and we'll do that. 114 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 6: I would say, what will you do? Take about two 115 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 6: days off Marco? Now, well, maybe maybe an hour. He'll 116 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 6: take one hour off and then he'll finish up a 117 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 6: deal on Cuba. That'll be an easy one, but it'll 118 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 6: be the entire region that we're doing that. Many of 119 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 6: you have come today and they say, I hope you 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 6: can take care of Cuba because you've had problems with Cuba, 121 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 6: right you mentioned. 122 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: So he's talking the Shield of America when he's talking 123 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: about that. 124 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's right. 125 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: Cuba should be relatively easy as it comes to a 126 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: transition and a fix. So keep in mind here what's 127 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: going on in Iran. That's a country of ninety million people. 128 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 4: Then we've got. 129 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: Venezuela and what we did down there a couple months ago. 130 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: That's a country of thirty million people. Cuba only about 131 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: nine million people. It's only slightly larger in population. 132 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: Than the state of Indiana. 133 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 3: So while it's certainly been high on our minds the 134 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: last sixty years for a lot of good reasons, and 135 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: there's a lot of Cuban immigrants that live in this 136 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: country today. 137 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: It is not that big of a country. 138 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: It is not that population dense, just not that many 139 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: people there. So anything that happens in Cuba should be, 140 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: we would hope to be a lot easier, certainly a 141 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: lot easier than what's going on in Iran and maybe 142 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: even easier than what happened in Venezuela. 143 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: Yeah. 144 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: Well, in regards to Cuba though, location, location, location, because 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: it's only ninety miles off the. 146 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: Keys of Florida, proximity means everything. 147 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: There are millions of people in this country Cuban descent 148 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: that have been waiting for an opportunity for Cuba to 149 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: be free and an opportunity to go back to Cuba, 150 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: and Marco Rubio has certainly been one of them, and 151 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: we've talked about this on this show. I know that 152 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio would want nothing more, probably in his entire life, 153 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: to see a free Cuba and to have his hands 154 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: in that and be involved as much as he possibly can. 155 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: The Iranian women's national soccer team they just finished competing 156 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: up their twenty twenty six AFC Women's Asia Cup and 157 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: they were eliminated, but several of the players they refused 158 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: to sing Iran's national anthem, and now the Iranian state 159 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: media and officials have labeled the players as wartime traders 160 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: for the act. And you've got Donald Trump now publicly 161 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: urging Australia to offer them asylum and said the US 162 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: would also accept them as if necessary. 163 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 2: It just shows you it's. 164 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: Part of the broader struggle over freedom for some of 165 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: these people. 166 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's some breaking news because it was just 167 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: in the last hour that Trump has called on the 168 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: country of Australia to give a sign to the Iranian 169 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: women's soccer team. There was a video that went around 170 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: last week where they were standing on the pitch and 171 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: the Iranian national anthem was playing and they weren't moving 172 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: their lips or singing it all, which is extraordinarily rare 173 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: and certainly frowned upon by the Iranian government. To say 174 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: the very least, This would be a massive pr coup 175 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: for the Trump administration and for the state of Israel. 176 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: If they can get this high profile event, this women's 177 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: soccer tournament that's going on internationally in Australia, and if 178 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: those women decide that they want to seek asylum and 179 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: it is granted. 180 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: I mean, look, if they seek asylum. 181 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: If Australia won't give it to them, you know that 182 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: Trump will give it to them, because that would be 183 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: a massive PRQ coup to take place right in the 184 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: middle while we're at war with Iran. 185 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WIBC.