1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Polling, polling, polling. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a perceived importance of college education allegedly because 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: there's this new poll that says that people don't think 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: it's that important anymore. It has dropped to a new low. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: This is a Gallup poll. It's kind of in casey 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: by the way, Okay, so what does the poll say? 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Only thirty five percent of US adults now say a 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: college education is quote very important. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So this this stuff all sort of like 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 3: culminated in except remember this, My mother was a high 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: school English teacher, and in the nineties, they divided the 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: kids basically into two paths. 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Right. 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: There was what they called college prep and what they 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: called tech prep. Yeah, which meant, hey, you're not going 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: to a four year institution maybe you know, maybe you 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: do a two year and apprenticeship, you know whatever, Right, 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: And they prepared kids based on that, like you sort 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: of chose the path. And then and then somewhere along 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: the way, they started almost like shaming you. 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Remember at the time I was in high. 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: School, basically it was unacceptable to not have some sort 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: of college you know, part of your career path or whatever. 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Where And I don't know why, I mean I'm sure 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: that the education institutionalists, you know, kept at it long 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: enough that they got us thinking along those lines. And now, 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 3: you know, twenty five years or whatever later, twenty twenty 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: five years later, people are kind of wise to, Hey, 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot of careers that are really good and 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: pay a lot of money. 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: And you don't need a college degree for it. 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: That's right. 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: So right now we're sitting at thirty five percent of 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: US adults who say that it's very important. In twenty ten, 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Just fifteen years ago, that number was seventy five percent. 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: So you've had a forty point drop in fifteen years fifteen. 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right, spot on, And that really is Look, 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: I think it's a mixture of things. 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: One. 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 3: I think people get into the real world and they go, hey, 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: this degree isn't helping me. I mean, I like, I 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: could say this honestly, I have never used my degree, right, 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: or people. 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: Are working in an industry that has absolutely nothing to 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: do with what their college degree was. 46 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: Right, I legitimately have never used my degree for anything. 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: I got my degree because I was And this is horrible, 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: and I think people are wise to I would never 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: do it now, But I literally said there are so 50 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 3: many people that I went to high school with who 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: I am infinitely smarter than them, and I don't want 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: them walking through life having some piece of paper that 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: they can say, Hey, look a look at how smart 54 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: I am. Eh, spie my whole life, Casey, it's all 55 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: been about spite. 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: It's a great motivator, rub. 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: But I mean, like, I've never in any interview I've 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: never been on I've ever been on. 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: Now. 60 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: Granted, I haven't had a plethora of job interviews because 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: I've either owned my own business or worked here most 62 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: of my life. But I'm I've never been asked for 63 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: my diploma. I've never been hired or let go because 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: of a diploma or lack thereof. And it was just 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: a complete waste. Other than one or two classes I 66 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: can think of, Casey, I took history of Jimmy Hendrix 67 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: at the four hundred level course. 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: I took the history of the Beatles as a four 69 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: hundred level. 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: Now, if you're on a music station, that would come 71 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: in handy. In fact, that information has come in handy 72 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: on this show before. 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: But it's the it. 74 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 3: I could find all this stuff on the internet. True, 75 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: It's not like you know So my point in all 76 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: this is that was just a complete waste of money, 77 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: A complete and utter waste of I think it was 78 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: able to do the whole college thing for like twenty 79 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. 80 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Good luck trying to. 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Do that today, right, that's barely one semester. 82 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: But I think that's also the other part of it 83 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: is people are saying, now, wait a second, Okay, One, 84 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm seeing through my own experiences or the experiences of 85 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: others where these college degrees aren't paying off, or two 86 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: and two it's so expensive. 87 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: To acquire the degree. 88 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: Why would I pay all this money for something that's 89 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: not going to pay out over time? 90 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want that debt going into my life. Okay. 91 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: So there are three different groups parents of children who 92 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: are under eighteen, college graduates and then non college graduates. 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: Say those groups again, parents of children under eighteen, college 94 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: graduates and then non college graduates. Okay, So out of 95 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: the three different groups, which group do you think said 96 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: college was very important the most. 97 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: Parents of kids under the age of eighteen, college graduates. 98 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: And non college graduates. 99 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, parents of kids under the age of eighteen. 100 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: No, it was the college grads. 101 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: Oh, it was what I thought they would be the 102 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: people who will see the most, like, hey, parent. 103 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: Parents of children under eighteen was in second. Thirty eight 104 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: percent said college is very important, and twenty one percent 105 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: said no, it's really it's not important at all. 106 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. 107 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: I'd seen the quote from one of the Kardashians of 108 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: all people that was saying the same thing that basically 109 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: college is you know, kind of a overrated or whatever 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: phrase she was using, And I said, do we need 111 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: to think about Not that the public education system will 112 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: ever allow their stranglehold to be in any way, you know, released, 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: but would it be better for kids if starting at 114 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: a certain age, whether it's you know, junior high school 115 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: or whatever, saying hey, find these, you know, five areas. 116 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: You know, we'll still teach you some core competency. You know, 117 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: how to add, how to subtract, how to write sentences, 118 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: things like that, but most of your time is going 119 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: to be spent find these. You know, there's five days 120 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: in the week, find these five areas that you're interested in, 121 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: and every day you're going to spend time in those fields, 122 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: learning the trade rather than learning a bunch of stuff 123 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 3: that you're just simply never. 124 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: Going to use. 125 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: But do you think that college offers more of a 126 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: well rounded education? Do you see a problem if you're 127 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: focusing on just these four or five areas and then 128 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: you get in that area and then you're like, yeah, 129 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: this isn't my thing. 130 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: What do you need? But that's what people do with 131 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: college all the time. 132 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: How many people get a degree and I'm just making 133 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: something of your education. They're like, man, I really didn't 134 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: want to be a teacher, so it's good and there's 135 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 3: all sorts of fields. 136 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: They just use that degree to pass hr right, Yeah yeah, 137 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: I mean. 138 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: I mean, do you they're using that degree to say, 139 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: look the well rounded stuff. The reality is in our 140 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: society we're becoming more and more specialized. You don't need 141 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: to be well rounded. If you're a plumber, you don't 142 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: need to be able to get art history. You know, 143 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: you don't need a no toll story, right, Like you 144 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: need to know how to fix the toilet or this 145 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: or the sink. And basically, I mean we talked about 146 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: this when we got Anything with the Kardashians a few 147 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: weeks ago. I feel like by junior high, well, not exactly. 148 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: What I wanted to do. 149 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 3: I sort of start you start forming your your interests 150 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: like these things, and if you choose five fields, then 151 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: one of those is probably gonna work out. Right, kind 152 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: of get an idea where you're at and where you 153 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: want to go in life, and it may be a 154 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: way for you to see very quickly, Hey, this just didn't. 155 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: It's not my things for me. 156 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 157 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: So you may have seen some b civil signs popping 158 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: up around Hamilton County. This is part of Project Civility. 159 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: It's a nationwide initiative. 160 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 161 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: The project was founded by a Carmel City council member 162 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: and he was inspired because he had some harsh interactions 163 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: during a twenty three reelection campaign. 164 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 165 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: He had some harsh interactions, like somebody said something mean 166 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: to him or someone threatened him. 167 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Like there's a difference, right. 168 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: All I have is harsher interaction. Well, okay went down? 169 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like it's it's one thing to you know, 170 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: somebody was you know, racist or you know whatever towards me, 171 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: versus some guy. 172 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: Was mean to me at a in a you know. 173 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: Public forum, Like what that's there's a that's a pretty 174 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: broad but anyway, go ahead. 175 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: Hmm. So after the election, he was hosting this civility 176 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 2: event at the local library. He was expecting about thirty 177 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: five attendees, but three hundred people showed up to it. 178 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 179 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: And since then, Project's Civility is focusing on softening public dialogue. 180 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: Oh and they're doing this through videos, discussions. 181 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: And oh, good grief. All right, let's address this, shall we? 182 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Sure? 183 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: First of all, we're respectful discourse. 184 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: We're a country that went to war over our disagreement 185 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: with somebody. Okay, we are a country because we went 186 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: to war over our disagreements with somebody. We all saw 187 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: a country that used to They used to duel when 188 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: lawmakers didn't get along. So I think we've come a 189 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: long way in our civility over time. Now, obviously there 190 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: are people who act wholly inappropriate, But what does that 191 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: even mean civilly? Because every time I try to be 192 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: civil with these lawmakers, they screw us. Didn't I try 193 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: to be civil for an entire year with the Republicans 194 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: over the property taxes? Didn't I try to be on 195 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: my best behavior? Didn't I try kindness? How far did 196 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: that get me? 197 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? They say that Civility means respectful discourse and recognizing 198 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: the humanity in others. Oh good, and they warned to 199 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: inter doing political opponents as villains. Now they're going to 200 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: be hosting a national Civility summit in Carmel, and former 201 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels is among these scheduled speakers. 202 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: Looking wait, wait, looking way, wait wait, look at what 203 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: they're doing to us. They are villains. I don't have 204 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: to feel bad for, in a peaceful manner, telling them 205 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: how rotten they are. 206 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: That's what this is. This is a guilt trip that 207 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: if you're a. 208 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: Law abiding, tax paying citizen, Now that's not enough. You 209 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: got to feel bad on how you address your elected officials. 210 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: I don't feel bad about anything. 211 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: They work for me. 212 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: If they don't like it, they can find a new 213 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: line of work and probably best for everybody. I've never 214 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: I've never been arrested, I've never been had a photo 215 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: in the post office. 216 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: I've never anything. 217 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: All I do is show up to this job every day, 218 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: cut my lawn, trim my weeds, raise my child, try to, 219 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: you know, as best I can integrate into decent society. 220 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: And now I gotta feel bad because I name call 221 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: some politicians. 222 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: It's never enough. 223 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: There's always something I got to hear how rotten I am, Casey, 224 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: and I refuse to do it. These people need to 225 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: be named called, They need to be publicly shamed because 226 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 3: they have time and again use their power, use their 227 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: authority to rig the system in favor of themselves at 228 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: the expense of us. See the guy who had the 229 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: point two eighty three blood draw who got special treatment 230 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: the state Senator Mike Bohachik that none of us got, 231 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: and got to keep driving his automobile when he was 232 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: so liquored up and inebriated that the Panda Express people 233 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: had had to call. 234 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: The sound the alarm on him. Okay, I'm supposed to 235 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: feel bad for that guy. Get out of here. 236 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: What about the saying, though you attract more bees with 237 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: honey than vinegar. 238 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: I tried honey for a year, Casey. 239 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: I had to deal with Governor Diminsipation and all of 240 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: his tomfoolery for an entire year. 241 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: How did that work? I got lied to. That's how 242 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: it work. I got screwed over and lied to. 243 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: So the Trump administration is now requesting fifty eight million 244 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: dollars from Congress this to increase security for the executive 245 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: and judicial branches. This following the assassination of Charlie Kirk. 246 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Funds are going to be primarily allocated to the US 247 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: Marshals Service for enhance protection for the Supreme Court justices. 248 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: Okay, and that's fine, but the reality is none of 249 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: that money would have prevented what happened to Charlie Kirk. 250 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: The reality is, if you're going to have an outdoor event, 251 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: you are opening yourself up to all sorts of security 252 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: threats that do not exist in indoor events. I'm not 253 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: trying to be mean or callous by saying that you 254 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 3: could give them a billion dollars and look, they couldn't 255 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: even secure I mean, he wasn't president, but he was 256 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: getting the same security basically as president. They couldn't even 257 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: secure Donald Trump. What do you think what adding an 258 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: additional guard to a congressman if you're going to do 259 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: an outdoor event. And again I come back to when 260 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: we had our property tax rally, one of them they 261 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: offered us the ability to do it outside, and we 262 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: weighed in on what was best because we actually thought 263 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: we might get more people being outside, verst people having 264 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: to come in and go through all the security and everything. 265 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: One of the there were many things, but one of 266 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: the things we factored in was if the deal is indoors, 267 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: we know that the state police will be able to 268 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: more effectively secure the event and any crazy people that 269 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: might arise. And we did have some disruptors and they 270 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: were dealt with very swiftly, and everything was super safe 271 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: because you have to go through metal detectors, the more 272 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: confined area, all of that sort of stuff. That's just 273 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: the reality of life. As Trump found out in a 274 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: horrible fashion, and as tragically Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Outdoor 275 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: events are just basically impossible to fully secure. 276 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: So the US Capitol Police say that they expect to 277 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: track more than fourteen thousand threats to members of Congress 278 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: this year alone, which is a significant increase over previous years, 279 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: and that's why they want this heightened posture. And of 280 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: course the request is coming ahead of the September thirtieth 281 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: government funding. 282 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Can we talk. 283 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: About this cop in Crawfordsville. Yes, this is I cannot 284 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: believe this is not like a lead story on statewide news, 285 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: Like this is an unbelievable story. And I've earned nobody 286 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: other than the local Crawfordsville County paper covering it. 287 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk about it coming up. It's ninety 288 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: three WIBC. 289 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: So fully, okay, we have to talk about this story 290 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 3: involving this Crawfordsville police former crowferd Ville police officer. I 291 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: can't believe this is not like a massive story throughout 292 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: the state of Indiana. 293 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 2: Well maybe after we talk about it. 294 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: Well it could be. 295 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 3: So the Journal Courier, which is, I believe, the paper 296 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: of record out there in Crawfordsville, which, by the way, 297 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: for those who don't know, most people do, Crawfordsville is 298 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: about thirty five miles west of Indianapolis. Just get on 299 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: seventy four and go and you'll run right into it 300 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: in Montgomery County. So they ran this story about and 301 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: now former Crawfordsville police officer, and basically the accusation is 302 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: that back in March, he responded to a call. The 303 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: guy Micah Hatch is the guy's name. He responded to 304 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: a call involving an abuse allegation from. 305 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: A childcare provider. 306 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: So this woman picks her kid up or comes home 307 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: or kids got like visible mark scratches, whatever. So she 308 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: calls the police, the police right like, Hey, I'd like 309 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: this thing investigated. And this this guy, Micah Hatch this 310 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: shows up, Yeah, shows up, takes the report to all 311 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: the information, and then, according to this article, basically like 312 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: short time after friends her on Facebook and then starts 313 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: sliding into her DMS. 314 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, ask for her snapchat user name, and then began 315 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: sending allegedly leude and suggestive messages to her. 316 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and asking if what like if she wanted to well, 317 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: implying he wanted to make content on OnlyFans with her 318 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: according to her allegations. And so you have this woman 319 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: who has this serious allegation of abuse against her child. 320 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: The cop who shows up then has all of her 321 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: personal information, right because she's got to give all of 322 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: that out, and his, according to her, his snap de 323 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: facto reactions is. 324 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: Hi, baby, I know I know what to do. 325 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll friend her on Facebook and then start sliding 326 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: into her DMS. 327 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: This is outrageous. 328 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: He allegedly was sending some explicit photos of himself, some 329 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: taken inside his squad car, made some sexual comments, and 330 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: called her on Facebook messenger, offered his personal number, and 331 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: then this is where it becomes really serious. He implied 332 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: that he had influence over DCS where he had previously 333 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: worked and could help her. 334 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so think about I'll let again, these are allegations, 335 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: right that you're in the position of this mother, which is, hey, 336 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: I have very very real concerns my child has been abused. 337 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: I do the right thing. I reach out to the authorities. 338 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: The guy who comes in now is trying to, you know, 339 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 3: work his game on me. And then you're in a 340 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 3: position of, well, if I don't go along with this, 341 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: is he going to just retaliate. 342 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: Against me or not help me? What a horrible position 343 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 2: to be is She said that she felt intimidated. She 344 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: eventually blocked him and removed her son from their shared preschool. Yeah, 345 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: so she had a childhood a preschool that her son 346 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: was at and then she moved away. 347 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: How awkward and weird that is that you got to 348 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: see this dude when you're going to pick up your kids. 349 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Crawfordsville Police have turned the case over 350 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: to the Indiana State Police and apparently they have a 351 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: detective now that is working on the case. 352 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: So anyway, I read this and I said, I cannot 353 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: believe this is not a bigger story other than just 354 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: being mentioned in the local towny, you know newspaper. Not anyway, 355 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: they did a fine job covering the story. I'm not 356 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: anyway trying to discurage the journal courier. I've just shocked 357 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: that we here in central Indiana haven't picked the media 358 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: outlets haven't picked up on this. 359 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: Story. 360 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: And let me to ask you, have you ever been 361 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: in a position where you felt someone was propositioning you 362 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: or leveraging their power or ability to do something for 363 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: you over you and put you in an uncomfortable position. 364 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: I was in a situation once where it was it 365 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: wasn't a coworker or anything like that, but it was 366 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: potentially a casting couch situation. 367 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: Oh so this goes. 368 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: Back to the late nineties and there's this big conference 369 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 2: that I don't even know if it's still going on. 370 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: It was held every year in Minneapolis for radio people, 371 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: and I had just come off a big ratings book 372 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 2: as my first time as being a program director. Now 373 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: I have to keep in mind this is going back years. 374 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: So used to be every radio station would have one 375 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: program director. Now one program director could be over multiple 376 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: radio stations or even you know, you have one person 377 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 2: centrally located in one city programming radio stations across the country. 378 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: But when this happened, it was it wasn't it was 379 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: much smaller. So I was probably one of four females 380 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: of thirty thousand program directors. And after this conference. I 381 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: was at this conference and at the end of the day, 382 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: there were a bunch of people that were going into 383 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: one of the suites and they were going to be 384 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: doing some cocktailing, and I was invited and these were 385 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: It was a room full of big market program directors 386 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: and vps of pro and I thought, this is a 387 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: great opportunity to do some networking. When I entered the room, 388 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: I realized I was the only female there, and it 389 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: did not have a good feeling at all because there 390 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: was alcohol involved. People were drinking, and I quickly excused 391 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: myself from the room because they were like, Hey, come 392 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: sit down, talk to us about that great ratings book. 393 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: And as I looked around the room and realized I 394 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: was the only woman there, knew not doing this, so 395 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: I quickly left. 396 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and one other thing is that those. 397 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: Are people that could have had leverage for my career well. 398 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: And the one thing that shouldn't be forgotten with this 399 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: is because the story obviously focuses on you know, hey, 400 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: potential abuse of. 401 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: Power, you know, those sort of things. 402 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: There's a kid at the center of this, right who 403 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: is allegedly, you know, if the mother feels suffered some 404 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: potentially some form of potential abuse, and you had to 405 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: get to the bottom of that, and then you get 406 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: subjected potentially or allegedly to all of this other stuff 407 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: as far trying to figure out, Hey, what happened to 408 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: my kid. I'd like to get to the bottom of that. 409 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: So the kid, I feel like kind of nobody's fault. 410 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: But when you're talking about this story, it's so kind 411 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: of sensational of his behavior that let's make sure the 412 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: kid gets justice in the you know, in the process, 413 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: or justice for the child in the process as well. 414 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it also goes back to people just can't control 415 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: themselves sometimes. 416 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 417 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 418 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: Okay, I have no sympathy for the people who are 419 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 4: getting fired because they said ridiculously offensive and stupid stuff 420 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: on social media about the death of Charlie Kirk. 421 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: These are the consequences of being a jerk. 422 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: Well, right, so look, if I'm going to point out 423 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: that I think it's gross that people like Jim Banks 424 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: are using Charlie Kirk's death to further political agenda, we're 425 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 3: also going to talk about on the other side. Matt 426 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: Hibblin and I are Boss. We're having this conversation during 427 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: one of our breaks, and I said, you know, the 428 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: problem with our society now is everything is so political 429 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: and we just just a light speed moves into it. 430 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: You can't just be a measured person in the middle, 431 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: like we hate all these people equally, right, Like that's 432 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: our slogan. We dislike all the politicians and all the 433 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: political sides equally because we think they're screwing everybody. 434 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: And so a measured approach is, hey, if you. 435 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: Post something ridiculous on social media, which is gross, if 436 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: you're celebrating somebody's somebody's death, then yeah, you can be 437 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: and should be facing some ramifications for that, because that's 438 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: how you handle your business and that's how you handle 439 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: your place in society. But you can also at the 440 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: same time say I can think that and think that 441 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: people like Jim Banks are gross trying to politicize the 442 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: death of Charlie Kirk to further a political agenda, like 443 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: I can't, we can't both of these things be true. 444 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: Some people are saying that it's very hipocratic, it's showing 445 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: hypocrisy because Charlie Kirk was exercising his first right Amendment 446 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: when he was assassinated, and but other people can't exercise theirs. 447 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no no no. That's and 448 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: that's the mistake people make same way as there's You 449 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: have the right to say it, but with it comes 450 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: a potential punishment. We I've long advocated for society to. 451 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: Do just this. 452 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: Police itself. You don't need the government, you don't need 453 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 3: government intervention. Society is policing itself, which is like this 454 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: DCS person who went who went down. If you are 455 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: going to say a hyper offensive, ridiculous things, then you 456 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: should be prepared that there's going to be some sort 457 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: of blowback or people are going to try to create 458 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: some sort of blowback on you and your profession because 459 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: you're putting it on social media. You're not thinking it 460 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: in your head, You're not saying it amongst you know, 461 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: quiet society, amongst friends. You're putting it on social media, 462 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: which means you want the world to see it. And 463 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: if you want the world to see something, then you're 464 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: going to be judged by it. 465 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: I think the scary ones that I've seen have been 466 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: the doctors and nurses. Yeah, because if you're in a 467 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: position where you're not even conscious. 468 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's why people are calling it out. 469 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's scary. 470 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's one thing for the guy who works 471 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: at the Walmart to have a you know, a position. 472 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, somebody has your life in their hands, right, 473 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: and they don't agree with your politics. 474 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: Right absolutely, And so for these people are looking for 475 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: some sort of sympathy or trying to say, oh, well, 476 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: the right hates cancel culture unless. 477 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: They've got the power. 478 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: No, I've long advocated for all society to do this, 479 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 3: which is the government doesn't need to do it. The 480 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: government shouldn't be strong arming Facebook to take take things 481 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: down or or ban people from the platform. 482 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: It's a court of public opinion, right. 483 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 3: And if you're gonna be billy badass and put this 484 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 3: gross stuff out, then there may very well be ramifications. 485 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: It's like everything I've put on social media about this, 486 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: I think Jim Banks is disgusting for what he said, 487 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: and now ours is the show. He won't come on, 488 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: but if he wanted to come in, I'd have the 489 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: conversation with him all day, every day about it. I 490 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: can defend everything that I've said. Now, there's a difference 491 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: between not liking someone's opinion, right, there's a difference between 492 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 3: disagreeing with someone. Some people may say, no, I think 493 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: what he said was fine, Okay, but I'm going to 494 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: tell you why. I think it's gross what he did. 495 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: And if somebody were to call my boss right now 496 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: and go Rob Kendall said Jim Banks was gross. Well, 497 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: what did Jim Banks do? Well? He politicized the death 498 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: of Charlie Kirk. I'm happy to have that conversation with 499 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: anybody in an urban one or any other place. But 500 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: these other people who are literally celebrating somebody's death, they're 501 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: making light of it, they're making jokes about it. You 502 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: better be prepared for there to be some ramifications. 503 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: Did you find that you curtailed your social media use 504 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: over the weekend? No? 505 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: I think if you look at I mean, I tweet 506 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 3: storm the same stuff and normally tweet storm about. 507 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I've. 508 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: I've always said like especially now this applies to the 509 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: elected officeholder people, because this is the way I would 510 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: want it, which is say the things about me in 511 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: death that you set about me in life. That's why, 512 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: like when someone like John McCain passed away, I'm not 513 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: going to lie to you and tell you I think 514 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: he was a great public servant. He was an incredible 515 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: hero as a as a member of the US military, 516 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 3: absolutely one hundred percent, and everyone should salute him and 517 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: thank him for his service. 518 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: But that was one part of his life. 519 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: The other part was as an elected person, in which 520 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 3: he was a pretty shady dude who allegedly did some 521 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: pretty rotten stuff, and as an his voting record was 522 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: not good for the country in many cases. I would 523 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: be a complete hypocrite to have spent my whole life 524 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: saying that and not talk about both of those things 525 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: as the legacy of John McCain. But I wasn't running 526 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 3: around doing a victory lab going good, I'm. 527 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Glad he's dead. 528 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: Like there's a huge there's a huge difference, you know, 529 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: between these things, and it's like a wake up call 530 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: maybe to some of these people on the left to 531 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 3: recognize there are potentially consequences for your words. There are 532 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: potentially consequences for your actions, and if you're going to 533 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: put it on social media for the whole world to see, 534 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: you better be prepared for the blowback. 535 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of people, especially over on Blue Sky, 536 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 2: talking about you know, oh who's next and scary stuff 537 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: like that. I found that a lot of those people though, 538 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: aren't using real names. 539 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: Well no, we say, and we see this all the time, 540 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 3: like the people that are the meanest us, and then 541 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: we always chuckle about it in the YouTube are always 542 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: like egg photo or you know, fake photo, you know 543 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: some unidentifiable name, and look, you're allowed to do that 544 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: on social media and that the platform sets it up. 545 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: Then okay, it is. It is what it is. But 546 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: new world where the right is not taking it anymore. 547 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: And if you're going to be gross and celebrate some guy, 548 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: some father and husband getting assassinated for doing nothing but 549 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: having conversations with people, you better be prepared for some ramifications. 550 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been at me all day on this. 551 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: I can't believe this, but you desperately want to talk 552 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 3: about UFOs. 553 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: There's been three big stories that have come out about aliens, UFOs, UAPs. 554 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. It's Kendall and Casey on ninety 555 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: three wybc. 556 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: Hey, slow down their fox Moulder, we'll talk about the UFOs. 557 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: That's fine. 558 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: Oh is there life out there? 559 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you said early you came in breathlessly 560 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: this morning. Oh my gosh, Rob, there's like nine articles 561 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: about UFOs that came out over the weekend. 562 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: Life on Mars, Rob, Are there aliens out there? 563 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: That's the question. 564 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: So it NASA's Mars rover. It uncovered rocks that were 565 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: in a dry river channel and they're say that they 566 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: may hold potential signs of ancient microscopic life. So we're 567 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: talking about life on Mars in the past. And I 568 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: don't know if you've heard about this. Many people are 569 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: talking about thirty one Atlas. This comet, Oh yes, that. 570 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: This Harvard the astros, great description, Casey, But what are 571 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: we doing? 572 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: What's going on? Okay? That hard? What is happening? 573 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, it is that hard because it's a comet 574 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: or is it an alien spaceship? 575 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: Shouldn't they know? Don't we have a telescope that can 576 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: tell us? I mean, wouldn't you be able to zoom 577 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: in and see whether it's a comet a fireball peralleling 578 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: towards Earth, or there's a bunch of little men driving 579 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: a driving a wagon or. 580 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: Is it automated? It apparently has changed lights from green 581 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: to red or red to green. It's it's correcting course, 582 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: unlike what a comet could do. And then you have 583 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: this congreman who showed that never before seen video with 584 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: military hitting that UFO or UAP. 585 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: All right, what's your theory on the UFOs? 586 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: You got one, you got a hot take, you got 587 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: well thought out hypothesis on what the UFOs actually are. 588 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's well thought out, but there 589 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: is the theory that, now that we have entered into 590 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: the AI technology revolution, are humans finally to the point 591 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: where aliens are saying, Okay, you're smart enough, now we 592 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: can make contact with you. 593 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: Well, it does come down to this, which is can 594 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: everyone be lying? I mean, there's so many people who 595 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: have purported to see UFOs or had some sort of 596 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: encounter with an alien life form. Can everyone be lying? 597 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: I think that's what you got to ask yourself. Do 598 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: you think that every person who claims to have had 599 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: these encounters, every single one of it well lying and 600 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: or wrong? 601 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Right. 602 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: Like I remember as a kid watching unsolved mysteries and 603 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: seeing these people and going, well, they certainly believe, appear 604 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: to believe this happens. 605 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: I believe what they're saying. 606 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: Sure, Okay. 607 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: So, and then there's people that have all these you know, 608 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: these sort of after these encounters, these unexplained health problems 609 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: or issues or things they didn't have before. People who 610 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: you know, claim to hear noises that other people can 611 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: all of these things. It's like, man, for all of 612 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: these people to be lying and fabricating these stories up 613 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: to and including health issues, that's a heck of a con. Yeah, 614 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it isn't all a con. I am saying, though, 615 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: that was that is a heck of a seemingly non 616 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 3: coordinated effort. 617 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: Okay. So there's obviously a spiritual revolution in the country, 618 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: You've got a technological revolution, and could this also be 619 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: a humanity revolution all happening at the same time. Here's 620 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: what I find is really interesting is the juxtaposition between 621 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence right now, right, you have some of the 622 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: most complicated, precise accuracy on things, right and look at 623 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: drones and everything else, and at the same time you 624 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: have a callback to the oldest of teachings talking about 625 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: the Bible. So are they the two are coming together 626 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: at the same time. 627 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: Do you have a theory on aliens? 628 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, I told you, I'm wondering if it's now with 629 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence and all of our technological revolution, are aliens 630 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: watching us and now saying okay, they're smart enough? Oh, okay, 631 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: they've got the technology. Wow. 632 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: Wait wait, let's go down this rabbit hole here. So, like, 633 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: do you think they're here among us so they see 634 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: these things? Or like they have a super telescope from 635 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: them from far away the planet nebar that they can. 636 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: See watching us. 637 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: How do you think they have the info that we 638 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: have the artificial intelligence? 639 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if they're happened, how do you think that's saying? 640 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: Do you think they're like are they Because there are 641 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: theories that aliens, you know, the men in black or whatever, 642 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: that they walk among us, Like do you think it's 643 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 3: that or do you think they're like somehow doing super 644 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: surveillance on this country super surveillance. 645 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: Okay, you don't think they're actually out here walking among now? 646 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 647 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: And what there's some high alien who just said okay, now, 648 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: it's the time, like, do they have a president alien 649 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: or a king alien. 650 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: Possibly makes the call like the queen bee. 651 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you see what I'm saying. 652 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your theory. 653 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: I've thought for years that my old man actually had 654 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: this theory when I was a kid, I thought, this 655 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: actually makes a lot of sense that they could be 656 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: time travelers. Mmmm, that that they're from the future coming backwards. 657 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is like rock solid. I'm just 658 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: saying it would make sense on why they can't be 659 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: seen that you disrupt the future obviously, if you disrupt 660 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: the path you've seen back to the future. You know 661 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: how it works, right when you disrupt the path the 662 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: timeline right, right, So that's why they struggled to be 663 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: That was always the one that kind of made the 664 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: most sense to me, that in the future they have 665 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: figured out some sort of time travel and they can 666 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: they can come backwards, and thus why there they look 667 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: so much different? And or hasn't if you indeed believe 668 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: the descriptions and are hesitant to be to be seen 669 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: at any point. 670 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: Or or is this all just a distraction? 671 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 3: Well, this is the other point, because here, here's the 672 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: other side of this that I struggle with. Given all 673 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 3: the technology that we have and all these supposed encounters 674 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 3: people have had, how did we Now there's some people 675 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: believe Roswell that they that we have caught one, But 676 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 3: how is an individual not caught one? I'm not the 677 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: same thing about Bigfoot. You know, if Bigfoot were real, 678 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: all these people who hike in the woods, all these 679 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: people have been in the area, and nobody's like provided 680 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: other than grainy photos or or recanting of stories or 681 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: not recanting recalling of stories. Nobody's provided definitive provement, say 682 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: with the aliens, like nobody none of these ships have 683 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: ever just accidentally crashed. And then some you know, subordinate, 684 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 3: some civilian got got wind of it first in the 685 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: modern era with the iPhones and everything. So I'm still 686 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 3: open anything. Casey, I can be swain. 687 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if they do come and they say, take 688 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 2: me to your leader, who are you taking them too? 689 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably David would our boss. 690 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: Okay, he's our leader. Here at the rating, look. 691 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: At the radio industry, and oh boy, you're right, these 692 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: people got it pretty rough. Let's just leave them alone. 693 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: Leave these guys alone. 694 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, It's just interesting how all of these 695 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: stories are all coming out at once, all right. Thank 696 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: you Rob, thank you Kevin, Thank you for listening. This 697 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 2: has been Kendallly Casey on ninety three WIBC