1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so I guess we're done with the California did it, 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: so we have to do it thing. Right? 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Do you say that because the Supreme Court voted in 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: favor of Texas's redistrict maps. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct. So California is getting five, Texas is 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: getting five. So one of our arguments that the little 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: get together they're going to have down the street from 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: us in a little bit, that's out the window. Right, 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: We can't talk about California because California's was in redistricting 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: was in response one hundred percent. You can hate California 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: all you want, and you probably should. They're rotten, but 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: they're redistricting was one hundred percent done in response to 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: the Texas legislature going first, So they're probably going to 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: get five. Texas is going to get five. That's a wash. 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Now we've got to find some other boogieman to blame, right, 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: I mean, am I unreasonable by saying that for the 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: need to put Jennifer Ruth Green in the US Congress? 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, and they also said that Florida is going to 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: redistrict and possibly Virginia, so this isn't necessarily resting on 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: the shoulders of Indiana. 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: Anymore. 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, You've North Carolina, which is going to 23 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: net a Republican seat. Ohio has already done theirs. They 24 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: will probably net at least one, maybe two Republican seats. 25 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: You've got Missouri who's done it, who will net a 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: Republican seed. And so I'm just doing my public school math, 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: that seems like four or five more Republican seats. Now, yes, 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Virginia's pondering doing it. They will pick up one. But 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: this whole well, we have to do it because someone 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: else did it. That doesn't really fly. And again we're 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: just admitting on all of this that the representation doesn't matter. 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: Working for you isn't a thing. This is about boosting 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: political parties. That's it. The idea of a representative, And 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: this is one of the things that just infuriates me 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: about this. When our founders set up this country, it 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: was a brilliant, brilliant system, and by design, the Senate 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: are the elitists, right, They're the tippy top people. That's 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: why their terms are six years, it's why they cover 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: the entire state. So just the long view of things, 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: the representative is supposed to do, just that represent like 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: minded communities of interest. That's the whole premise of it. 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: So it's called a representative. It was to take smaller 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: pockets of people who have shared interest who aren't going 44 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: to get that same representation from the United States Senate, 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: and have individuals who go in there and fight for them. 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: You look at these maps and you have multiple districts 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: that will stretch from Indianapolis to corners of the state, 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: in which those corners of the state have little, if 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: any geographical industry wise. 50 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: All of these things economic commonality, right. 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: Yes, economic commonality, yes, thank you, time zones with the 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: people of Indianapolis. And we're supposed to believe that our 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: representatives that are to go in there and fight for 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: all these people at the same time, they can't do that. 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: You're going to get much worse as bad as our 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: representation is right now, well, it's going to get much 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: worse if these maps pass. 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: So it's now being reported that some top GOP officials 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 2: have admitted that they're too scared to say anything against 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: redistricting because it could get them kicked off of the 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: state Central Committee, where the positions are determined by the district. 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, isn't it interesting that this rally, this rally today, 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: the state party, Republican Party, has said a word about it. 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: It's all turning point USA. I haven't seen anything from 65 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: the State Republican Party about any of this. And again 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: it comes back to if we now admit, which they 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: have admitted by the way they legally had to admit. 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: It's why they admitted it that this is all political, 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: it's all about boosting the Republican Party. My question back 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: to you is to say, what have the Republicans done 71 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: for you? Don't even take the past year. Let's take 72 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: the past twenty five years. Who's added the most debt 73 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: to the nation. The Republicans, right, The spending, the crony capitalism, 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: the Democrats are bad, not disputing that, but if this 75 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: is all about putting more of one group of people 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: in power in the state of Indiana or Texas have 77 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: never been higher under the Republicans. Spending has never been 78 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: greater under the Republicans see Indiana Economic Development Corporation. The 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: corruption and crony capitalism has never been greater under the Republicans. 80 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: What are you so excited about that you think that 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: rigging these maps, as they've now publicly admitted, which is 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: all about you are last, they are first. The maps 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: are being changed to help the Republican Party full stop, 84 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: not help you, not anything to do with anything that's 85 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: going to better you. What have they done to warrant 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: you going? Oh yeah, And we already know who the 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: candidate's going to be. It's going to be this totally corrupt, 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: unethical Jennifer Ruth Green, or at least that's who they 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: want it to be. The Golden Child who was so unethical, 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: I mean, Tony so Prano saw her and was like, whoa, 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: you better put the brakes on their lady that in 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: eight months she got run out of a cushy two 93 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars taxpayer funded job. What 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: about any of this? Do you say, if you're a 95 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: logical thinking person, this is going to be so much 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: better for me. 97 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: Well, the House is having their final reading of the 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: amendments today. There were twenty one amendments, by the way, 99 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: and then they're going to vote. But yesterday Ed Delaney 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: said something which I thought was very curious. 101 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: The Democrats are amazing. I had lunch yesterday and I 102 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: will totally not name this person with a very prominent 103 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: influential Democrat, not not a politician, but someone who is 104 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: very influential in the Democrat party. And we talked for 105 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: probably an hour and a half and we don't agree 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: on a lot of things, but you know, it was 107 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: interesting just the back and forth. And one of the 108 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: things I told him and this person agreed, I said, 109 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: your biggest obstacle and we were talking about, look, the 110 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: only hope for the Democrats is that bo Bi gets 111 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: it together next year. He's the last hope for the 112 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Democrats that if he can win that Secretary of State's race, 113 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: because Diego is so unethical and corrupt and whatever gets 114 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: exposed about that, that they can somehow put the band 115 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: back together. I said, your your biggest problem is that 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: Boba's going to have to overcome the insanity and just 117 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: the utter stupidity in which you guys not only snatch 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: defeat from the jaws of victory, but somehow managed to 119 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: take your own foot and stick it in your own 120 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: mouth and kick yourself in the face repeatedly. And this 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: person didn't even disputes, No, you're you're right right. I mean, 122 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: like there is, the Democrats are their own worst enemy. 123 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: They can't just get out of the way. They can't 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: just be like, if this is going to fail, let 125 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: it fail and let them take the blame. They always 126 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: have to be the weirdos in the room. And I 127 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: like Ed Delaney. You've been on our show numerous times. 128 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: He is one of the more normal ones. He is 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: one of the more rational ones. But again he did 130 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: it yesterday. It's even the ones you don't expect. What 131 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: the hell is this Casey. 132 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: Thought about one thing. I mean, didn't think about trade economics, 133 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: didn't think about voting trends, didn't think about our regions, 134 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: think about rivers are like, didn't think about anything except 135 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: one thing. That's quite a miracle. 136 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: It used to be the other way. When I was 137 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: in school. 138 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: This teacher who said, Delaney, you're supposed to be thinking 139 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: about history, could you not think about sex for just 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: ten minutes? 141 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: I never got there. 142 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: It didn't work. 143 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Okay, why would he bring meno? Okay? So a bunch 144 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: of people sent this to me, and I'm like, okay, 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: first of all, honest, we always say when honesty Okay. 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: Second of all, I'm the wrong guy to be pitching 147 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: that too, because from about about the age of sixteen on, 148 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: it was about how to notice girl, how to get 149 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: girls to notice me. And I'm not going to be like, well, 150 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: like it said, even what he said, like, everybody knows 151 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: what he was saying, right, Like, that's what dudes do, right, 152 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: that's what straight men do for the time they're fourteen fifteen, 153 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: whatever they're thinking about girls. That's it. I think that's 154 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: what he was saying, right, But that is the total 155 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 1: wrong time. 156 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: It's not the place to be saying that. 157 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: What does that happen? 158 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: Halt themselves? 159 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you take something that is at least with 160 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: the public at large, which is in your favor, which 161 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: Paul after Politro Bowl shows the public is against redistricting 162 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: in this state, including by Republican pollsters, and you take 163 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: the attention off of that, and now it's, well, there's 164 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: another Democrat weirdo Gee, maybe we shouldn't bring these maps 165 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: because these people are so weird. 166 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: Exactly, He's like winning the argument. So the Democrats speaking 167 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: of them. They were supposed to be having a rally, 168 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: an anti redistricting rally on Monday, and it was going 169 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: to feature a former US senator Ambassador to the Holy See, 170 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: Joe Donnley. But I just got a note now the 171 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: saying they're not holding that rally as planned, Well. 172 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: Look, I don't think at this point the rallies other 173 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: than to work against you. There's no point to have them. 174 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: If this okay, let's say this thing today, let's play 175 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: two scenarios out with this rally. It's gonna take place 176 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: down the street. Now, look, I don't believe there's any 177 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: way Turning Point USA is gonna allow this thing to fail. 178 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: And they're gonna have thirty people like there's such a 179 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: large group. They'll bust people in, they'll bring people from 180 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: other states if they have to, you know, pay people 181 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: to go whatever. They're not gonna lie. 182 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: So you're saying it won't just be Indiana's I don't 183 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: know that. 184 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: I'm just saying Turning Point will not allow the thing 185 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: to fail because they'll want to go see everybody really 186 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: was for it, and they know the media is not 187 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna be on the ground quizzing people about who they 188 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: are and where they're from, and you get paid to 189 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: go or whatever now that you can do that. I'm 190 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: not saying there's anything illegal or anything about any of that. 191 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like when we did our property tax rally. 192 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: There ain't no giveaways for people to come. We legitimately 193 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: put one thousand people in that state House who game 194 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: of their own time and effort, and we didn't have 195 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: buses or anything else. We were like, come if you 196 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: want to come, and people came. 197 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: Figure out your own parking, right right right. 198 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: But the point of all this is it's the House 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: is already decided, it's already over, Like they already know 200 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: what they're doing. There's no doubt that this is going 201 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: to pass the House of Representatives. So you're what you're 202 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: shooting your entire shot on a group of people that 203 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: already know what they're doing. And the Senate. I don't 204 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna move based on people being in that 205 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: state House because they already know, they've already done their 206 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: own internal polling. They already know the ultimate poll, which 207 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: is what they've heard from their constituents. So the only 208 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: thing you could do at this point is have the 209 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: thing like like the last time they had the legit 210 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,119 Speaker 1: rally with Mike and Diego, where there were an embarrassing 211 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: thirty people or whatever it was there, So why would 212 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: you even do it at this point? 213 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, this is it they're saying, they're calling on 214 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: the people to come support them so that they can change. 215 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: The minds of the State Senate. 216 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: And I again would like to hear from somebody, because 217 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: I've been putting this out for over a day now nobody, 218 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: and there's plenty of people who find me on social media. 219 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Take away. I want to get rid of Andre Carson because, 220 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: as we've said, Andre Carson has no control over anything. 221 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: He's not in power. The Republicans are in full power. 222 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Tell me how adding two more Republicans to the Republican 223 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: governance we already have, which is all you're going to 224 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: be doing. That is the exercise here. You tell me 225 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: how that's going to better your life. You tell me 226 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: what the Republicans in Indiana have done for you, and 227 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: the Republicans in Washington, d C. The past year have 228 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: done for you that you say, my life is so 229 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: much better, and give me specific instances of how your 230 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: life is better. I've been asking for this for a 231 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: day now, and nobody can do it. 232 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: You know what today is, It's repealed day, rob It's right. 233 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety two years ago today prohibition done so yeah. 234 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: And unfortunately you've got the Indiana licensed Beverage Association. 235 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 3: Is going to cease to operate. 236 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so our local bar merchants have been really declined 237 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: the past decade or so. It's getting to a crisis point. 238 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: And so Brad, our olpal bred clothenstein Stein, he'll be 239 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: with us to talk about the sort of the lay 240 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: of the landscape here and what can be done about 241 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: it to try to revive sort of the local bar industry. 242 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: He joins us. Next on ninety three WIBC on. 243 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Casey, I have good news and I have bad news. 244 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: Which would you like? Purs I would like the good 245 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: news first, Okay, well, today is the ninety second anniversary 246 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: of repeal Day from prohibition. 247 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 5: Oh okay, well cheers, so drink heavily. Yeah, drink to that. 248 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: Now for the bad news, Yeah, what's that? Well, some 249 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 5: of our local bar owners are not doing so well. 250 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that the cost of everything's up, 251 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: so it's cheaper just to have a cocktail in your kitchen. 252 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: And I saw this post the other day from our 253 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: old pal, Brad klopenstein Stein. And nobody knows booze in 254 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Indiana like clothenstein Stein, right, And it was from the 255 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Indiana Licensed Beverage Association, and it was this. You know, 256 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: it starts out with the it's great post. It's the 257 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: ninety second anniversary had Field Day. Everybody celebrate and have 258 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: a beverage, and then it goes into how much sort 259 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: of our local bar merchants are struggling, and essentially that 260 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: the Indiana License Beverage Association going to shut its doors. 261 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: Oh now, so let's find out what's going on and why. 262 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: Brett clofenstein Stein joins us. 263 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 6: Now, Brad, Hello, Rob Casey, good to talk to you. 264 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so tell us about this. Let's start with this. 265 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: Why are local like you know, your mom and pop 266 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, the mom and pop 267 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: bar owners. Why are they struggling so much? 268 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 6: I want of it's just increased competition. You've got breweries, 269 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 6: you've got distilleries, you've got chain restaurants, you've got a 270 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 6: whole bunch of riverfront permits that are are being placed 271 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 6: out there in the market, and there's just more competition 272 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 6: and consumer preferences have changed. I know I've talked to 273 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 6: Casey about this before. Just alcohol consumption is down in general, 274 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 6: and I think there's other societal factors. Some of its 275 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 6: zoning used to be that you would have a neighborhood 276 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 6: tavern on just about every corner, and now zoning has 277 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 6: kind of him those into strip centers, so you can 278 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 6: no longer walk to the bar. You have to drive, 279 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 6: and you know, you don't want people drinking and driving, 280 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 6: so they just don't go as often. 281 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: So that's interesting. Like I think about when you say that, 282 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: like SIDS Bar in Noblesville, that's a legendary location, is 283 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: literally right on the square in Noblesville and it's you know, 284 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: everybody knows about it. I assume it's still there. You're 285 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: saying that those days are done, So. 286 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 6: They're not done. There's just fewer of those places. SIDS 287 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 6: is actually kind of a success story. I think Sibs 288 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 6: just sold a couple of years ago and they redid it. 289 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 6: The bank has been improved in there. 290 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Rob brad Clofensteinstein our guest. We're talking about these the 291 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: really bad position local bar merchants are in in the 292 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: state of Indiana. Now tell them about the Indian License 293 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: Beverage Association and why they're shutting their doors because they've 294 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: been a major advocate of supporting these people for what 295 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: ninety over ninety years now, right. 296 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, The Indian License Beverage Association was founded in nineteen 297 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 6: thirty three, right there at the end of prohibition, and 298 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 6: it's a trade association for small, independent, kind of mom 299 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 6: and pop bars and taverns. It's just because of some 300 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 6: of the things we've talked about, we've just got fewer 301 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 6: members as part of the pool. Typically the ownership of 302 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 6: those places has aged quite a bit here in the 303 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 6: last twenty twenty five years, and then also just people 304 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 6: joining trade associations, those numbers are down across the board. 305 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 6: But we've just got ye. The Indian Licensed Beverage Association 306 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 6: has gotten to the point where they don't have the 307 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 6: financial resources nor the volunteers to keep going. And just 308 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 6: for disclosure, I used to be their president what they're 309 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 6: paid president, from two thousand and five to two thousand 310 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 6: and nine, and then I had been on their board 311 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 6: here for the last five or six years, and we've 312 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 6: been trying to keep it going, but just we weren't 313 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 6: getting the interest from the bar owners. And yeah, we 314 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 6: finally made that decision that we know what's inevitable, so 315 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 6: let's just call. 316 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: It a day. 317 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: So the Indiana License Beverage Association successful in passing some 318 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: initiatives like serving alcohol, legalizing alcohol on election day also 319 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: Christmas Day. But with it dissolving, what will the consumer notice, 320 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: if anything? 321 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: Initially they probably won't notice much, but that association has 322 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 6: always looked out not only for the bar owners but 323 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 6: for our patriots. And you know, you don't exactly know 324 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 6: what you miss out on because it's trying to prove 325 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 6: a negative. But I think that the License Beverage Association 326 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 6: has always been a strong advocate for responsible alcohol consumption. 327 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 6: And sometimes when you don't have that voice, you don't 328 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 6: know if they're going to take You know, right now 329 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 6: it's point oh eight is the legal limit to drive 330 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 6: with alcohol in your system. I know that there's initiatives 331 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 6: to take that down to point oh five or point 332 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: oh three, And typically the Association would have been in 333 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 6: a position to say, listen, the people at point oh 334 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 6: eight aren't the problem. It's the people at point one 335 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 6: five and above that are the problem. And statistics bear 336 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: that out. But there's not going to be that group 337 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 6: to fight for that. Now. 338 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: A couple of minutes with their old pal Bred clopenstein Stein, 339 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about the positioned local bar merchants find themselves 340 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: in Now in the state of Indiana, would you advise, Like, 341 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: if one of your friends came to you and said, Hey, 342 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about starting a bar, what would you tell 343 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: him today? 344 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 6: You can do it and be successful. Sometimes bar owners 345 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 6: can be some of their own worst enemy, and you 346 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 6: know they'll do things on the cheep. You have to 347 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 6: be willing to put money into your restrooms. You have 348 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 6: to be willing to put money into your facilities. You 349 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 6: have to be welcoming, and I think that for somebody 350 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 6: who wants to get in you can. You can do 351 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 6: it right. You can be successful and you can make money. 352 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 6: But know your market, know what your competition is, and 353 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 6: know what your niche is going to be. Be it 354 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 6: a neighborhood that's that's up and coming and has, you know, 355 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: some disposable income that's there. You typically want younger people. 356 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 6: That whole industry is driven by consumers that are ages 357 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 6: thirty five and less, even though Casey and I might 358 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 6: actually help take it the other direction. 359 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: Hey, you notice how he's grouping me in with the 360 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: old people crowd. 361 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Brad, Look again, I mean you're only sixty four years old. 362 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: I look fantastic for my age too, Bratt. Is this 363 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: happening across the country or is this an Indiana thing? 364 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 6: No, that's happening across the country. We were part of 365 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 6: a bigger organization called the American Beverage Licensees, which is 366 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 6: a national group. And even they had they used to 367 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 6: be only four bars and restaurants, and then they merged 368 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 6: with the Store Association back in the early two thousands, 369 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 6: and it was simply because there were fewer members and 370 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 6: in order to survive you kind of had to combine resources. 371 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 6: So it's not just an Indiana thing. We just happened 372 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 6: to be the most recent one to fall. 373 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: Brad. Where can people find you if they enjoy more 374 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: of your they'd like more of your general pleasant demeanor 375 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: and personality. 376 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 6: First, I have to ask job, is this a new 377 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 6: minder manner segment? 378 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Brad, because when we think of manners, we 379 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: think of you. 380 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: Yes, mindorka. 381 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 6: The Indian License Beverage Association. We still have a Facebook 382 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 6: page that's active and I'll continue to maintain that to 383 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 6: some degree. So on Facebook Indian Licensed Beverage Association. People 384 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 6: can find me at Brad Kloppenstein Brad Cloppenstein dot com, Facebook, 385 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 6: wherever Twitter Indiana clop is actually my Twitter slash x account. 386 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: You know you need a web you need a website, 387 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: Kloppenstein Stein. 388 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 6: I actually I need to grab that because you say that. 389 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 6: Now within ten minutes, somebody's gonna have grabbed that off 390 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 6: of Go Daddy, Brad, Thank you, I thanks. 391 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: I think here it's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WYBC. 392 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: We have some sad news to report. This just came 393 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: down a little while ago, and that is a former 394 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: WIBC newsman extraordinary. Eric Berman passed away this morning. And 395 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: for those of you who know longtime WIBC listeners, look, 396 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: I think he was here for more than twenty years, 397 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: from the nineties all the way into I mean he 398 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: was here through parts of COVID and many of you 399 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: will remember Eric Berman as the longtime voice of the 400 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: State House, back when WIBC used to have a permanent 401 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: entrenched like many other news outlets positioned in the State House. 402 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: He would do daily reports from the State of House. 403 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: He would get the interviews with the politicians, and he 404 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: was a phenomenally interesting guy despite in addition to his 405 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: reporting that everybody knew him from best known, probably as 406 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: he won on Jeopardy. 407 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: He was Jeopardy Champ, he was on it, he. 408 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: Won an episode of Jeopardy. And Eric was a very 409 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: interesting guy. Obviously if you went on Jeopardy like a 410 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: guy who's IQ was off the charts, and you know 411 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: when you deal with people who are so ridiculously intelligent 412 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: like an Eric Burman, and then you have a guy 413 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: like me, So what's up right? Like what do you 414 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: even talk to a guy like that? But I was 415 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: talking to him about his appearance on Jeopardy and he said, 416 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge of Jeopardy was not the questions, but 417 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: it was mastering the buzzer. 418 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, buzzing in to answer the question, because. 419 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: There was really an art to doing the buzzer. And 420 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: what he said was, he said a lot of times, 421 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: the people who will be very the most effective on 422 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: Jeopardy are not necessarily the smartest people. It obviously helps, 423 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: or even the most well rounded also helps, but the 424 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: people who can master the buzzer because it is a 425 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: sprint to get into that buzzer properly. So anyway, I 426 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: wanted to pass that along that he he did pass away. 427 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: This morning. I worked with Eric for I say with 428 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean he was over at the State House most 429 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: of the time, but I'd see him in the building 430 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: and obviously we would air his reports and for Numero 431 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: yeries and just a really great guy, sort of a 432 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: sort of he was a throwback a bygone era it 433 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore in which media outlets had people Casey 434 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: totally entrenched in the state House every single day. Yeah, 435 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: a State House press corps. Yeah. And it's interesting I 436 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: was having I mentioned that I had lunch yesterday with 437 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: a very prominent Democrat, not an officeholder, but somebody who's 438 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: very entrenched in politics for many, many years in the 439 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: Democrat Party, and we were talking about just this, about 440 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: how he was saying that you think about even twenty 441 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: five years ago or thirty years ago, there were forty 442 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: plus people with media credentials there inside the state. I 443 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: was like, you know, legitimate, I work for this newspaper. 444 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: And they were from all over the state. You had 445 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: Louisville at Fort Wayne, you had the region. They had 446 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: people that they would send down here, especially during session, 447 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: and they were just entrenched. They lived here, right, And 448 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: you had all of these people trying to search out 449 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: all of these things, not just in terms of policy, 450 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: But hey, what's the shenanigans going on behind the scenes? 451 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: And through budget cuts and consolidations and more budget cuts 452 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: and more consolidations, there's only a handful of people even 453 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: there anymore. And that's why these politicians do it. They 454 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: do they must even get away with it. 455 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for the most part, they all live here 456 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: in Indianapolis full time. 457 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and you think about I get this 458 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: all the time. I'm sure you get this all the time. 459 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: I know our other friends in the media get this 460 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: all the time. Why aren't you covering blank? You should 461 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: look into da da da da da. And it's like, okay, 462 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: but when do you like expect me to do whatever 463 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: thing you want me to do in addition to all 464 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: the other things I do. And it just really is hard. 465 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: It's no, it's no fault of the media into well, 466 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: I mean, in the sense they've they've cutted their budgets, 467 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: they've slashed their budgets. They don't have this anymore. But 468 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: in terms of the people that are in the state House, 469 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: there's only so many hours in the day. You have 470 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: to cover the nuts and bolts of the stuff going 471 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: on because that's actually affecting people's lives. So then when 472 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: you get all these sort of like extracurricular things that 473 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: are happening, can't do it all. You just can't. And 474 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: that's why these politicians pull the stuff they do. It 475 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: takes a very high bar, see someone maybe getting indicted 476 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: or being oh, I don't know, under a grand jury 477 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: investigation to actually draw the attention of the public, because 478 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: you have to have some sort of paper trail of 479 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: something to get to be looking into these things. 480 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, but by all accounts, Eric Berman was a truly 481 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: kind person and had a thirst for knowledge. 482 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: Oh he was great. He was great, and he truly 483 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: was a throwback to a bygone era. Guys like him 484 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: just don't really exist anymore. And one of the things 485 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: about Eric Berman, who was it was fascinating to talk 486 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: to him because he never really gave his opinion on anything. 487 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: A true journalist. 488 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, on these stories, on these stories he 489 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: would cover, you'd sit there and shoot the breeze with him, 490 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: and you know, he'd have opinions on things. But my 491 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: point is in his news reports, in the things he covered, 492 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: fact based, he was just here's what happened this, and 493 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: this is what the wbec newsroom still does so well 494 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: to this day. Now we don't have somebody in trench 495 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: in the State House like we once did, but the 496 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: news department, they're totally separate from us. We talk about 497 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: this all the time, that those guys are not us, 498 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: and we are not them, and they're certainly not accountable 499 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: to or for us. Right, they do a very good 500 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: job the WIBC newsroom, as it has for generations, of 501 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: just simply giving you the facts and then letting you 502 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: decide what to do with that. 503 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: Right, letting you decide. You got an interesting sign put 504 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: up in your neighborhood. 505 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: So I have this at Robin Kendall on Twitter if 506 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: you want to want to go see it. There is 507 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: a house on Green Street in brown Bwnsburg. You can 508 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: drive by and see it. Now, I'm sure Green Street 509 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: is better known as two sixty seven, but in the 510 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: actual town of Brownsburg it's known as Green Street. If 511 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: you drive through Green Street in Brownsburg, you will see 512 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: someone who has a sign. I guess this is in 513 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: a front yard. Is in the front yard, Yes, it 514 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: is in a front yard that says in big letters. 515 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: It's like a yard sign, like a political yard type 516 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: yard sign. And it says Rob Kendall is right, but. 517 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: They don't specify what you're right about. 518 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: I guess it's everything. 519 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 3: But you like to point that out most every time today. 520 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, that's perfect. So that's a little tourist attraction. 521 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: If you're driving through Brownsburg today, get on Green Street, 522 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: you'll see somebody with a giant Rob Kendall is Right 523 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: yard sign. God bless that person. They should totally give 524 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: him a sagamore. 525 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: Somebody agrees with you on something. 526 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: There's one person. 527 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: We got one. 528 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: They felt so strongly. 529 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: We got one. 530 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got to do that. If you're through 531 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: Brownsburg today on Green Street, which is the main drag there, 532 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: you go find that guy with the Rob Kendall is 533 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: Right sign, and you know, maybe somebody will take a 534 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: picture with it. Maybe it would become like a tourist attraction. 535 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: Sure they should put a little tip jar out there 536 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: if we yes. 537 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: Help that guy pay for whatever that was. It's a 538 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: nice look at sign. It wasn't cheap. Sure you should, Yeah, 539 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: you should. He should put a tip jar out there. 540 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: People should leave a few a few coins I do 541 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: have if you'd like to see the picture. 542 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: A run for governor. 543 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: Facebook might not exist a run exactly that campaign. 544 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: That would be a great slogan, though, wouldn't it. 545 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall is right, Yeah. 546 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: Vote Rob Kendle. Rob Kendall is right. 547 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: It's a little double entendre right right meaning conservative right, 548 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 3: also meaning correct. 549 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: We need more people like this guy in the world. 550 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: You think, so, more people that agree with you. You 551 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: need more people in. 552 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: This world for me. Maybe not for the rest of you, 553 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: but for me. 554 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: There was a new study that was published and it 555 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: says that after work invitations like grabbing drinks or attending 556 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: a casual gathering can cause stress to people. They were 557 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: not always happy for everybody. It makes people feel stressed, sure, 558 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: and discomfort. 559 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: So this is like your office holiday party. 560 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: Or just a hey, let's go have a drink, you know, 561 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 2: some sort of social invitation from again. 562 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh ocur no, no, no, yeah, I see this 563 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: because there's a bunch of like when we have these 564 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: once a month, we have the all staff meeting, and 565 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure these people are all very lovely, but I 566 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: don't know any of them. And it's like we do 567 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: work at. 568 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 3: The point of the meeting, the lunch or whatever, so 569 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: I get to know them. 570 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: But I know enough people. I mean, don't you you 571 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: feel like I have enough friends? 572 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: You're full? 573 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: This is why, this is why our show is unique, 574 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: because we don't want to be friends with any of 575 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: the politicians, so we can say whatever we think because 576 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: we have enough friends. I have enough friends. 577 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: They say. 578 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: The stress has caused from the decision making process where 579 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: you sit there and ask yourself should I say yes 580 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: or no? And then the expectations will they judge me 581 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: if I decline? The uncertainty how long is this going 582 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: to last? Who else is going to be there? And 583 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: also status dynamics. Invitations from a supervisor feel different than 584 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: invitations from your friend. 585 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: It's like mandatory fun. You will go and you will have. 586 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: Well, you have to go, right if the supervisor asked you, 587 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: that's not an invitation, that's a demand, isn't it. 588 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: That's like a soft cell. You really should go to this. 589 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: So will you seem rude if you don't go? That's 590 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: the biggest question People. 591 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: Ask themselve, why would you care? 592 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: And will it affect my work relationship? 593 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: Well, okay, but you would think if you work around someone, 594 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: they would get the hint pretty quick on whether you 595 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: want to be their friend or not. 596 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: Is it risky for your career if you say no? 597 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: What? 598 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: And this is a nice thing about our job because 599 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: there's no one here anymore. It's just you and keV Hammer, Nigel, 600 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Headrick, Jarret Lewis. 601 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: And none of those people are asking you to go 602 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: have a cocktail with them. 603 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Hammer and I hang out everything. 604 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: You're okay, your set, no worries. 605 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I used to hang out with you every SCE and 606 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: then you quit. You just quit. You could do a 607 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: quiet quitting. 608 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: Did I? 609 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: You stopped asking? Hammer's going to join us next. It's 610 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: ninety three WYBC. 611 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: All right, he wants to tell me what a horrible 612 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: human I am, Jason Hammer. The floor is yours. 613 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 7: Hello, congratulations, you are responsible for just setting a new 614 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 7: Guinness World record. 615 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Huh. The most people. 616 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 7: Yelling oh bull crap at the same time just happened 617 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 7: moments ago. 618 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. When Rob Kendall said on the air, 619 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: and I quote I have enough friends, No you don't. Yeah, 620 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: like half. 621 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 7: Of your friend bases in this room right now. 622 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: And I've got very mixed feelings. Well that's enough. It's 623 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: like you. 624 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 7: This guy in Brownsburg with the sign Adam Wren and Abdul. Hey, 625 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 7: like that's good enough to be the worst table at 626 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 7: every wedding. The only think you're missing is the chick 627 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 7: with sideburn. 628 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, that you don't look atually have 629 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: a tippy top friend. And that is the most beautiful 630 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: man in all of terror Hotel vision Verbana like he's 631 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: he's like he's waiting to be consider you a friend. 632 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: He told me the other day, he said, because we 633 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: were we're going to get together this weekend. And he said, 634 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: it's weird to say, but I think you're one of 635 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: my best friends. 636 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 7: Oh sure, this feels like the quote unquote Tennessee Kentucky 637 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 7: football rivalry. 638 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: If you have a Tennessee fan, who's your rival? 639 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 7: Well, it's Bama, it's Florida. Ask a Kentucky fan, Oh 640 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 7: it's Tennessee. It's totally one sided here. 641 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: So you're telling me that if I if we had 642 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: been on our show Monday and I asked him, do 643 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: you consider me to be one of your really good friends? 644 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: You think what he's gonna say, No. 645 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 7: Make it lied to you to your face, because he 646 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 7: doesn't want to hurt your feelings, because you know, such 647 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 7: a petty man, you will. 648 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: Would he drive all the way over from Tara Hote 649 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: to hang out with me if I wasn't one of 650 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: his friends because he wants to use you for airtime 651 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: like politicians do too. He's already on the air, but 652 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: not this level television. 653 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 7: You could be the biggest star in a television station 654 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: at Tara HOAt and you know what that's good for? 655 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: Slapping the ass at a white castle. 656 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 7: You go on WIBC, which is basically statewide, on a 657 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 7: number one rated program, which you guys happen to have 658 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 7: access to. 659 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: I think it carries a little bit more waste the 660 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: way we. 661 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: Have access to. Wait are you talking about your own show? 662 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about you, Okay, So wait, wait, wait wait. 663 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: Your theory is that this guy you like him more 664 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: than he likes you. That's my theory. He drives all 665 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: the way over from Tera Hope for a five minute 666 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: segment every once a month. He's your theory. 667 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 7: More people know Ben Verbanic, probably from being on your 668 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 7: show than they do from his station work in Tera Hate. 669 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Well. He makes me look much better when we roll 670 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: out together, so I'm fine with that. Whatever it is. 671 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: He's much younger too, yeah. 672 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: They say, look at this guy. He's with this guy, like, 673 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: he looks like somebody. 674 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 7: So he's younger, he's still probably naive enough to think 675 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 7: that you could probably help him in some capacity. 676 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: It'd be like if we rolled out with Phil Sanchez, 677 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, we people would see us with Phil Sanchez. 678 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: That's like why we like to have him on every 679 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: so often. He looks like somebody. I don't look like anybody. 680 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: I like to hang out with people who look like 681 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: there's somebody. 682 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 7: You don't hang out with anybody, And I'm you're cheap, you're. 683 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Poor, your petty, you have no friends. 684 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 7: And congratulations on setting that record earlier of the most 685 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 7: people yelling, oh bull crap when you said I have 686 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 7: enough friends, where are they? 687 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: He's full anymore? 688 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: Not taking resumes. 689 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: We I do have a question for you. They had 690 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: this hearing on the casinos yesterday or the day before, 691 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: and all the focuses on putting this casino in Fort Wayne, 692 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: and out of this the buy in, like if you're 693 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: the winner or whatever, would be fifty million dollars. Who's 694 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: paying fifty million dollars on top of what you got 695 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: to pay to bill a casino? Given how poorly they've done. 696 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a little saturated in the market now compared 697 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 7: to back when Anderson and Shelbyville opened up because they 698 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 7: were marketed as the closest casinos to the big city. Well, 699 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 7: now with legal sports gambling, you don't have to go 700 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 7: to a sports casino per se. 701 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: You can just do it at home. 702 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 7: But if you're somebody that wants to play blackjack or 703 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 7: poker or hit the slot machines, then you got to 704 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 7: go to the brick casinos that are being built. And 705 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 7: the problem that we've had in the past, and I 706 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 7: was at Shelbyville when this happened. When the license are granted, 707 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 7: some of the dumbest people imaginable that work at the 708 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 7: Indiana State House thought that, well, this is going to 709 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 7: be like Times Square New Year's Eve, three hundred and. 710 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: Sixty five days a year. 711 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 7: I'm going to walk into Shelbyville at three o'clock in 712 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 7: the morning on a cold December snowy night and I'm 713 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 7: not going to find a seat. So they have this 714 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 7: ridiculous level of taxes and fees, and there's no way, 715 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 7: even if the casinos are doing well, that they can 716 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 7: keep up with that. 717 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: You brought up a good points. So the fifty million 718 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: is for the license fee. Only who gets that money 719 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: the fifty million, Oh, it goes. 720 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: In a pocket of a politician somewhere. 721 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 7: Oh okay, right, All of this gaming money goes into 722 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 7: the Wink Wink General Fund, which generally doesn't do a 723 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 7: damn thing for the POPU. 724 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: Generally screws us. They generally screwed you. By the way, 725 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: Bill Herrick would like you to know he is my 726 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: friend as well. Oh he is not. He just sent 727 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: me a Texas and I'm your friend too. 728 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 7: What was wrotime you and Bill Harrick hung out. I'd 729 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 7: love to hang out with Bill Harris, so never thank 730 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 7: you you and your good friend, Bill Harrick, you sound 731 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 7: like Abduel. 732 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: Oh my very good friend Ryan Meurees. You guys are 733 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: the same. Shut up hate both of you. Just do 734 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: that with everyone. Everyone is his very good friend. 735 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 5: Right. 736 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: I never noticed this. I'm just awful person, my very 737 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: good friend boss hawk Set. Okay, thanks, I never noticed 738 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: that till just now. Everybody is his very good friend, 739 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: isn't it. That's amazing. I'm so glad we dumped all 740 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: over me just to get to that. I never realized 741 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: that until just now. Every person is Abduel's very good friend, 742 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: my very good friend O. J. Simpson. Yikes, has he 743 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: cleaned out his office yet? By the way, Like, I 744 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: think he's taking a bunch of stuff out, but you 745 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: can't tell because it's gotten down right. 746 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 3: He was like, come, look, how clean and spacious it is. No, 747 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: there's stuff everywhere. 748 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 7: Still, you're one match away from this whole building. 749 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: Going up in flames. So Abdul just has piles of 750 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: comic books. And I'm not kidding when I say piles. 751 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: It's just like things thrown on top of each other. 752 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: It looks like an episode of Hoarders back there. Yes, 753 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: And they told him, dude, we're out of here middle 754 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: of the next week. You better go. And you're right. 755 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, I've got a cart, I've got this. 756 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, you need a dump truck, dude, a cart 757 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: is not gonna cut it right. 758 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 7: You need one of those big, massive dumpsters they drop 759 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 7: off in front of businesses. 760 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: And that still might not be enough. And I asked 761 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: her so well, like, why don't you sell a few 762 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 1: of these? No, I'm putting them in storage. What good 763 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: do they do? 764 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: You? 765 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: In storage. All right, what's coming up this afternoon? 766 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 7: So the competitive eater guys are coming in. It's Joey 767 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 7: hes Nut, Nick, Weary, Mickey Pseudo, the Big Big Ten 768 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 7: Championship wing eating competitions to carry sure we're going to 769 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 7: have that, We're. 770 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: Going to have some arguments and biggest stories. 771 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 6: Of the day. 772 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: Thanks Sammer. 773 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: It is Kendall Lee Casey on ninety three WYBC