1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: It is Jennie ninety three WIBC and joining us. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: On the WIBC Hotline. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: We've got the best state house reporter in all of 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: the land. Nikki Kelly from Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Good morning, Nikki, morning. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: Let's talk about these toll roads Indiana application details and 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: duh okay, they're saying that the tolling could help fund improvements, right, 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: any word on what kind of revenue anybody's expecting from 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: this and how certain they are on their projections. 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I think the projections are pretty simple. Obviously, 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: state highways do regular traffic counts, so I think the 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 4: projectors projections should be solid. 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: They didn't actually. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 4: Put in the application how much overall revenue would come 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 4: in on me, it's obviously in the billions. What they 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: put in is kind of the net amount that would 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: be available every year for them to do improvements with, 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: and that was looking at like four hundred million a year. 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 4: And basically they've got this long plan to rebuild and 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 4: turn into I seventy into six lanes across the entire state, 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 4: and that would cost I think six point seven billion 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: dollars over an eight to ten year period. And so 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 4: it would all be financed through toll revenue. 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: Hey, Nikki, So as a taxpayer, I know a lot 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: of people are frustrated because here we've got the fifth 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: highest gas tax in the nation, and yet the perception 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: is our roads are absolutely terrible. So now we're talking 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: about a toll road being instituted, billions of dollars being 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: raised from our dollars paying for those tolls. It kind 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: of gives me the sense that this is just throwing 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: more money after a problem and maybe not even getting 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: a good quality of service from that. Is anybody asking 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: that question of the lawmakers in this process. 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think Indiana is no different than 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: any other state right now struggling with road needs. Obviously, 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 4: gas taxes are bringing in fewer dollars because of efficiency, 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: which is great for us as consumers, but also means 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: we're paying less gas tax than we used to, So 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: then they hike the gas tax right to to try 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 4: to keep the revenue. Study And the big thing is, 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: ever since COVID, the cost to do anything on a 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: road has you know, skyrocketed, So where they used to 44 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 4: be able to spend x amount of dollars to fix 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: the road, if you know, three times that now, and 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: so we aren't any different than any state in that 47 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 4: in that term of things. 48 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: And the reason we. 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: Have kind of such a high gas taxes. We also 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 4: put gas tax or what we put our sales tax 51 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: on gasoline purchases, which not very many states do. Now 52 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: that small bit of it does not go to roads. 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: That goes to the general fund as a all sales 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: taxes too, So it's complicated. I get why people are, 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: you know, confused and frustrated. And the tolling thing just 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: adds a whole new layer. 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nikki, but we are different. We've got the fifth 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: highest gas tax in the nation, so we are different 59 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: than forty five other states. Are other states funding their 60 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: roads through other mechanisms, and we're only doing it through 61 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: the gas tax. 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 4: I mean some other states have toll roads too. Obviously, 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: this program that we're applying under is not a surfing 64 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: at all. The federal government has only approved this, I 65 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: don't know, maybe a handful of times if that. The 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: general thought process in previous administrations has been, you know, 67 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: we already paid to build those roads. 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: We don't think people should have to. 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: Pay again, although by adding the lanes it would become 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 4: basically a new new road, and that's sort of the 71 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: angle that the state's right to take. 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: Do you. 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: You mentioned it still has to get the federal government approval. 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: What are some of the hurdles that need to happen 75 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: before that clears. 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's up to the federal government. This 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: is just all in there in the wheelhouse, and they 78 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: have indicated there aren't any specific rules about when they 79 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: would have to make a decision or anything like that, 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 4: So we could be waiting quite a while to see 81 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: or it could also be one of those like I'm 82 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: not sure if they'll outright deny it or just not 83 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 4: act on it. I mean, it's not going to be 84 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: a popular thing for either Brawn or Trump to authorize 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 4: if they do do it. 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: I'm curious. Has anybody raised any. 87 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: Concerns in local communities about drivers just diverting around onto 88 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: smaller roads to avoid I seventy. Is anybody talking about that? 89 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're working on a story for that about next week. 90 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: And there is a mention sort of a glossed over 91 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: mentioned in the in the application that certainly will happen. 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 4: I think there's some concern about people diverting to US 93 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: forty especially, and so that would obviously cause major problems 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: for locals and break down those roads. 95 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: Nikki Kelly from Indiana Capitol Chronicle is joining us. Let's 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: change directions and talk about how the Indiana AG is 97 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: pushing back against this effort to halt this student ID 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: voting ban. I'm curious if you know how many Indiana 99 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: college students would be affected by the ID rule in 100 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know. 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: I don't know that there's any way to find that out, 103 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 4: because you know, some vote here, some don't, and some 104 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: might have a state ID that they would use and 105 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 4: some don't. So I don't think there's a number out there. 106 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: But obviously I think it's fair to say that, you know, 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 4: a fair number of students have been using their student 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: ID to vote for years. And the irony of the 109 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: change the lawmaker's made is the law states out like 110 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 4: any ID having these things, you know, and it has 111 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: like two or three things, a photo ID, expiration date 112 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: issued by you know, certain things count. But so even 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: though these IDs have counted under that law, they carved 114 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: out and said nope, we're not going to take those anymore. 115 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nikki, I find it interesting what you said right 116 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: there about how we don't know how many students are 117 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: using these. Is that something that's not recorded at the 118 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: time of voting. They just look at your ID and 119 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: then do they Is there not some sort of tracking 120 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: as to what ideas used? 121 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: I don't know for sure if it tracks the type 122 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: of ID or if it just you know, marks off 123 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: that you showed ID that would be something. 124 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: It might It might. 125 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: Depend perk county and what elections where they have. 126 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so talking about voting, lots of Indiana officials they're 127 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: linking up with Turning Point USA. I'm wondering if there's 128 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: been some concerns about involving political advis kissy groups and voting. 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean some people reached out to us for sure. 130 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: Turning Point USA is you know, I think legitimately synonymous 131 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: with the Republican Party and conservative values and that's what 132 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: they push in So there is. 133 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: A concern about. 134 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: Using state a state office or state resources to. 135 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Pair with that for a voter registration drive. Trying to 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: just make. 137 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: Sure that you know it's fair and if a similar 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: group would come to the state who's more progressive leaning, 139 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: are they also going to partner with them, And you know, 140 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: I think those are fair questions. 141 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nikki and I agree, those are totally fair questions. 142 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: And for those that might be opposed to this deal 143 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: that the Secretary of State's office has with Turning Point USA, 144 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: is there anything that can be done about it? I mean, 145 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: is there any mechanism that the detractors on this situation have? 146 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: Is there any mechanism for them to leverage this to 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: maybe put a stop to it? 148 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I think you could, wow, maybe file a 149 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: complaint with the Inspector General and the Ethics Commission to 150 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: see if they're breaking any rules or as usual in 151 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: life nowadays, you could file a law food I guess. 152 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: But and you have to then be arguing I guess 153 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: that state dollars are going to you know, a basically aid, 154 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: a political party, or even a religion, I guess. 155 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: So I guess the working theory would then be the 156 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 3: Secretary of State has the discretion to use voter registration 157 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: funds or funds to drive voters registrations in any way 158 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: they want to. That is that the way it's kind 159 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: of viewed. 160 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the way Secretary of State believes it. 161 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: But I think I think some organizations are concerned that 162 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: if you're prioritizing or favoring one side or the other, 163 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 4: that's a concern to use stay resources. 164 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: Tom. 165 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: That was a great answer, Nikki. That's the way the 166 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: Secretary of State use it. Very nicely done. Yeah. 167 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: And speaking of the Secretary of State, you guys dropping 168 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: a story about Diego Morales and how much he's spending 169 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: on providing. 170 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 5: Free vehicle reports. Tell me about that. 171 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we posted that story this morning. Last year, the 172 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 4: office announced this deal with Experience where they're going to 173 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: offer hu'surious. 174 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: These free vehicle reports. 175 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: Obviously they're not free to the state. But what has 176 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: happened is that the way the contract is set up, 177 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 4: it requires a payment, a minimum payment for ten thousand 178 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: of those reports a month at like two dollars and 179 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: thirty eight cents a pop. So the problem is no 180 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: one's beast for the reports. So we're paying Yeah. Wow, 181 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: only only about two thousand two years have asked for 182 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: the reports over an eight month period. So when you 183 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: do the math, we're paying like one hundred and fifty 184 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: five dollars per report right now. And they just extended. 185 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: The contract for another year. 186 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: They did lower the cost of it, but still well 187 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: above so we're basically paying for reports that don't exist. 188 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: Hold on, Nikki, can you run through those numbers again 189 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: because I want to make sure I heard them right. 190 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: We're paying essentially for a minimum of ten thousand reports 191 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: a month, and over eight months, that mean we paid 192 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: for eighty thousand reports, but over an eight month period 193 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: only two thousand people use the service. 194 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, the first couple of months that was no minimum, 195 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: and then after that there was the ten thousand dollars minimum. 196 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, when you add it all up, we've paid 197 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: three hundred and thirty three thousand so far and twenty 198 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: one one hundred and fifty who's yours have asked for 199 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: a report, and so you just do the map that 200 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: ends up being one hundred and fifty five dollars a report. Obviously, 201 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: you can go online and get the same report for 202 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 4: like thirty bucks. So that's a problem. They did, like 203 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: I said, extend, they signed a new contract that basically 204 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 4: is for another year. They have dropped that down from 205 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: ten thousand a month to like eighty five hundred, but still, 206 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: I mean, we're nowhere near that, So you know, we're 207 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 4: paying a lot of money to experience taxpayer money. The 208 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: Base Office points out that this money is from the 209 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: Auto Dealer Services Division, and it's you know, fines and fees, 210 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 4: and it's not quote an appropriation from the general fund. Obviously, 211 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: I think most taxpayers would see that as the same. 212 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: I mean that money could go to something else, you 213 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 4: know that you know, could pay a salary or something 214 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: that we're paying through to general appropriation, so you know, 215 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 4: it's all fungible. 216 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: That is the most government thing I've ever heard. Hey, 217 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: here's something that a consumer nobody's using, something that a 218 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 3: consumer could pay thirty dollars for in the free marketplace 219 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 3: to get that report. But if I want to get 220 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: my free version from the government, the government pays five 221 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: times that for the same product. 222 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 5: Wow. 223 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: I'm just blown away by those numbers. Nikki, thank you 224 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: for having that. That's amazing. 225 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: All right. 226 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: Finally, I want to talk about your big win, and 227 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: this involves the public records fight that went to court. 228 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: You wanted some records and you got them. Congratulations. 229 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: We did well. 230 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: See if the win sustains. 231 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,479 Speaker 4: I mean, in the end, we asked for cost information 232 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: on how much money the state was spending on PETO 233 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: barbital or renewed executions. 234 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: They denied. 235 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: We sued they did give us the costs and having 236 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: giving us the costs since then, and the judge did 237 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: agree with us. Now the state this gets into the 238 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 4: legal weeds on what summary judgment is. But because we 239 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: were granted summary judgment, our lawyers are allowed to get fees. 240 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 4: So the state still has some time, a couple of 241 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: weeks left, I think, to decide whether they will appeal 242 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: that or not. But at least you know the money, 243 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 4: that that information is out there. I don't think you 244 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: should ever have to fight for go to court to 245 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: fight for what your state governments. 246 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. It's a win for transparency, isn't it. 247 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, Nikki. 248 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: Is there any penalty to the state other than having 249 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: to give up the information or is it just maybe 250 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: they might have to pay your fees? Because if I'm 251 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: the state and there's no penalty for me losing in 252 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: court other than I have to give you the information 253 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: I had to give you all along, talk to me 254 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: about that. 255 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not. There aren't like fines or anything like that. 256 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: The only real penalty is A they have to give 257 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: up the information and B they have to pay. There 258 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: are the other side legal fees. So basically, if someone 259 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: wants to sue and you got to remember it citizen consue, 260 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: they basically take that, you know, financial burden on in 261 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: hopes of getting the win. 262 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate everything you're doing over there at Indiana 263 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: Capitol Chronicle. 264 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 5: Nikki Kelly, thank you for joining us this morning. 265 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: All right, have a good day, guys. 266 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah you too. 267 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 5: It's ninety three WIBC. 268 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: What are your money where your tweets are? 269 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: Sounds convenient, but mixing finance and social media also means risk. 270 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: When finance gets social you gotta watch out for security, 271 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: regulation and whether users really trust it with their money. 272 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: You've got Elon Musk who made an announcement about X money. 273 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: It's a new digital payment and financial service system built 274 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,359 Speaker 2: in to the X platform. 275 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 5: That sounds kind of scary to me. 276 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, you don't want you, you don't want you credit 277 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: card information being part of your Twitter X account. I 278 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: get that. This is something Elon has wanted to do 279 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: for a long time, pretty much ever since he sold PayPal. 280 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: So keep in mind if you were to where you know, 281 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: Elon Musk was one of the original founders and workers 282 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: at PayPal before they went Actually he was part of 283 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: the part of the original X, but you get what 284 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying. He was part of that group of PayPal 285 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: and he's wanted to get back into kind of the 286 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: money and finance things. So think of this as something 287 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: similar to PayPal or Venmo or cash app. You'll be 288 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: able to send money to friends via the X platform, 289 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: But what I think the real game changer here is 290 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: you'll be able to purchase items right there on the platform. 291 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: So what you'll see likely going forward is you'll see 292 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: a lot more shopping happening on Twitter, so people put 293 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: up stores on Twitter, and then I can use my 294 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: X money which is what they're calling it, to just 295 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: make that purchase right there within the Twitter platform and 296 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: not have to leave or have a pop up come 297 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: up where I have to log into my credit card 298 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: or my bank account to make the payment. 299 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: YEP, it's designed to let you to send and receive 300 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: money sore funds in your digital wallet. There also manage 301 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: payments directly inside the X app and musk. His goal 302 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: is to turn X into an everything app, a single 303 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: platform for everything, messaging, social networking, payments, and potentially even 304 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: more financial tools. He has early public access set to 305 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: begin next month, and they're transitioning for making it a 306 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: testing role model into a real world use model. They've 307 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: partnered with Visa to secure these licenses in a lot 308 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: of US states, and that is to enable regulated peer 309 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: to peer payments and transfers. The whole thing sounds absolutely 310 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: scary to me, though, because when I think of X, 311 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: I think of you know, cat turd and what's on. 312 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: His mind, and people's accounts getting hacked, and you know, 313 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: crazy AI videos showing uh, you know, a ran blowing 314 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: up US aircraft carriers, which clearly never happened. I think 315 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: there's certainly you go into this cautiously, but this is 316 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: where social media is moving, and TikTok has shown us 317 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: the path on this. The TikTok shop has been around 318 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 3: for a couple of years now, and that is a 319 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: massive revenue generator not only for TikTok the app itself, 320 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: but also content creators on TikTok. You see they yeah, exactly, 321 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 3: They're like, hey, look at this awesome cheese grater in 322 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: how I grate cheese so much easier now. My life 323 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: is wonderful. Click this link to purchase this and then 324 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: the content creator gets, you know, a cut of the purchase. 325 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 3: That is what you're going to start seeing on x 326 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: more and more, And it wouldn't be so it wouldn't 327 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: surprise me at all if other social media platforms start 328 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: going in this direction Facebook and Instagram. Social shopping is 329 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: what it's called, and that's a word, and TikTok has 330 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: been massively successful with it, and so it's no surprise 331 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: that Elon wants to move in this direction. But I'm 332 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: still amazed every time I think about all that Elon 333 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 3: has done with Twitter since he bought it in twenty 334 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: twenty two. You know, keep in mind, as soon as 335 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: he bought it in twenty twenty two, fired like eighty 336 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: to ninety percent of the staff, which, by the way, 337 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: Twitter was never making a regular profit before that. You know, 338 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 3: one quarter that'd have a profit, in the next quarter 339 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: they'd have this huge loss. So he cut like eighty 340 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: to ninety percent of the staff. But then so much innovation. 341 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Twitter really hadn't changed that much in the 342 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: years before Elon musk buy is it? Elon buys it? 343 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: So many things change, you know, development, the pay model 344 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 3: got instituted, and a lot of people had a lot 345 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: of problems with that, but now it's just kind of 346 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: become commonplace for a lot of things that He's really 347 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: done a lot of innovation on that app in a 348 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: short period of time, and this is this is what's 349 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: next for Twitter. 350 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: A lot of people look at X as more of 351 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: a news platform delivery, and I'm wondering, You've got influencers 352 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: who are now going to be peddling products and maybe 353 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: an X shop like TikTok. Is it going to completely 354 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: change the app and help people view it people. 355 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 5: View it as a news source. 356 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's certainly changed the way TikTok is used and 357 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: the type of content that's created around TikTok is now 358 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: so much TikTok content is around shopping, TikTok shop and 359 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 3: social shopping, so it's certainly gonna move into there. I 360 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: think this is probably gonna be a niche area that 361 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: will be cut out that people will use Twitter for. 362 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: But like you're right, I think the vast majority of 363 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: people will still use Twitter as kind of a news feed. Hey, 364 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: I want to know what's happening in the world right now, 365 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: and that's what I use Twitter. 366 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 5: You still haven't made that jump. Huh, you just called 367 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 5: it Twitter? 368 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: How long? 369 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: How long do you give it? 370 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: Forever? By the way, this will this is America. I 371 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 3: still call it the Sears Tower. I'm never gonna call 372 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: it Willis Tower. No, when you name something and it 373 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: gets ingrained in our culture and it becomes iconic, don't 374 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: just try changing the name and expect me to go 375 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 3: along with it. No, it's still Twitter, and it's still 376 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: the Seers Tower. 377 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: To It's gonna take a minute. You're listening to ninety 378 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: three WYBC. 379 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 5: Why you're at war? Don't be surprised when the public 380 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 5: doesn't want to back it. 381 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: You got to have clear goals, honest communication that goes 382 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: a long way towards building support. 383 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: It's called trust. 384 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: You can't just slap something together and then expect people 385 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 2: to just to go along with it. 386 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 5: There's new polling that is out. 387 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: And it is how Americans feel about the US military action, 388 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: the little incursion, the war against Iran. And it's pretty 389 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: much divided along party lines. And this is some polling 390 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: that was conducted since it began, and there is some 391 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: high opposition to what is going on. There's a Quinnipiac 392 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: poll since fifty three percent of Americans opposed US strikes 393 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: in Iran, only forty percent support it. Many Americans feel 394 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: the war has made us less safe rather than safer, 395 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: especially when you have outlets like ABCDWS putting out stories 396 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: saying that there's this drone threat in California. 397 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: That's not going to make you feel safer. A majority 398 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: believe that the Trump administration has not clearly explained the 399 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: goals for the conflict, and then you have strong opposition 400 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: about seventy five percent of people against sending US ground 401 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 5: troops to Iran, and that is even among Republicans. 402 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever you talk about sending in ground troops, it 403 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: completely changes the equation as you evaluate something like this, 404 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: and you're right, does fall mostly along party lines. Although 405 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: with the vast majority or at least around about a 406 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: third of people in this country identifying as independence now 407 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: and the fact that the overall support is below fifty percent, 408 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: that means that Independence opposed this war more so than 409 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: they approve it. So that's one interesting factor in all 410 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 3: of this. But it goes back to what I've said 411 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: a lot. If you just win, all of a sudden, 412 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: everything gets wiped away and people end up supporting it. 413 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: So whether or not, you know, the American people support 414 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: this military action right now isn't nearly as important as 415 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: to six months or twelve months from now and how 416 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: the outcome ended up being. And that will really determine 417 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: whether or not this is something that is kind of 418 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: a noose or an anchor around Trump's net going forward, 419 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 3: or something that he can use and leverage going forward. 420 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: A lot of voters still worrying more about economic costs 421 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: like higher gas prices, and obviously the conflict is just 422 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: playing into that concern. But you mentioned something, if you 423 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: just win, it makes everything better. 424 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 5: But that's the question. What does success look like? Is 425 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 5: it regime change? Is it them completely having. 426 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: Zero military is it oil price is going down? Is 427 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: it the United States and allies having complete control of 428 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: the Middle East? 429 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: What is the objective? 430 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's the issue why a lot of 431 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: people are just having a hard time with this because 432 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: it has not been explained and it changes, it vacillates 433 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: all the time. 434 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think what Donald Trump is trying to 435 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: do here and right or wrong, this is just the 436 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: way I'm kind of analyzing the way he's going about this. 437 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 3: I think He's listed off a ton of things that 438 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: he wants to accomplish. This baby got five, six, seven 439 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: different things. But whether or not ultimately the American people 440 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: are comfortable with this or six or twelve months from now, 441 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: is when this is over, Donald Trump is going to 442 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: pick one or two things that we got accomplished and 443 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: try and sell that to the American And that'll be 444 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: well if the American people are buying what he's selling. 445 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: So that's what he's got to do it. Whenever this 446 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: is over, whether it's in two days or two months 447 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: or two years, he's going to come to the American 448 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: people to say, look I did this and this, and 449 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: isn't that amazing? And look how fantastic and wonderful I am. 450 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: And that's going to be the moment of truth because 451 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: the American people at that point in time are either 452 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: going to buy it or they're not going to buy it. 453 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: And that's going to go a long way as to 454 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: what else Donald Trump can accomplish during the rest of 455 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: his term as being president. 456 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: It'll be a lot easier to buy anything, He's say, 457 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: if things were just less expensive, if things cost less 458 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: money and you weren't feeling it. 459 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 5: All the time. Oh okay, yeah, I get it. That 460 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 5: was worth it. 461 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: But if prices don't come down or wages don't go 462 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: up one of the other, it doesn't matter what he says, 463 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: because you're not going to view it as a win 464 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: if you can't afford your life. 465 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's certainly gonna make it harder. So how is 466 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: this a war you know, affecting American people or people 467 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: in this country on a day to day basis. So 468 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: right now, we've got the price of gas going up, 469 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: and it's gone up a lot in the last ten days, 470 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: and that's going to affect the American You've got the. 471 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: Cost of fertilizer going up, and that's affecting a lot 472 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: of farmers. 473 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: Well, as we know, that's a great point. But as 474 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: we know, as the cost of gas goes up, the 475 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: cost of everything goes up. Because everything that you can 476 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: see when you look around wherever you are right now, 477 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: everything you see at one point in time was on 478 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: a truck. And if diesel fuel is more expensive, it's 479 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 3: going to be more expensive to ship that around the 480 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: country and get it to you when you purchase it 481 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: as a consumer. So that's a big one. But the 482 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: other big one here and we're not talking about it 483 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: a whole lot, although we're talking about it more than 484 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 3: we did when the military action started. And that is 485 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: the potential threat of terrorism and lone wolfs on our 486 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: American soil. And we had the incident in Austin, Okay, 487 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: that was the first weekend. Second weekend, we had the 488 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: incident that happened in New York City with those guys 489 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: that had those improvised explosive devices. And now we've got 490 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: the AABC News story about how the FBI is telling, 491 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 3: you know, people in California that you know, to be 492 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: on alert for a potential drone strike. Those are the 493 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: sorts of things that do affect Americans every day because 494 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: it makes them concerned about their safety in their everyday 495 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: life here on American soil. Inflation, gas prices, our safety 496 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: here on American soil. Those are Donald Trump's Those are 497 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: his biggest challenges to get support for the war in 498 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: his favor. Right now, there is a new. 499 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: Report that came out that from the Pentagon, and it 500 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: says about one hundred and forty US service members have 501 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 2: been wounded in roughly ten days during the war with Iran, 502 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: far more than was an initially disclosed, so you can't 503 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: at this point call it a limited operation or a 504 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: little incursion. When you look at casualty numbers, one hundred 505 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: and forty wounded in ten days, that's not trivial. Even 506 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: if they are mostly minor injuries, that's still a real 507 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: toll on real people and families. 508 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is the headline here in my opinion. 509 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: It is the fact that of those one hundred and 510 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: forty that have been wounded, one hundred and eight are 511 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: already back on duty, So the injuries were fairly minor. 512 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: Not to minimize them, but I do give the Trump 513 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: administration a little leeway on this because there's a lot 514 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: of people that are beating them up in the media 515 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 3: and on social media and say, hey, one hundred and forty, 516 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: where did that number come from? Last wee were told 517 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: it was like eighteen or twenty after the first weekend, 518 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: and now you're telling us here a week and a 519 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: half later, that we've got one hundred and forty US 520 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: personnel injured. Some media members are claiming that they're, you know, 521 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: not releasing this in a timely manner. But I will 522 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: say the president's first responsibility is to make sure that 523 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: we don't give information publicly that our enemies can be 524 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: used against us. So there is a valid reason to 525 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 3: kind of delay or keep this information from making it 526 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: out to the public because the enemy can use it 527 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: to their advantage. We don't want to give them information 528 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: that they don't have that then they can potentially use 529 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: against us to further prosecute this war. 530 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: So Marco Rubio has been seen wearing some big shoes. 531 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: They're so big, in fact, they don't really fit him. 532 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: They have been gifted to him from Donald Trump. He's 533 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: been giving out pairs of one hundred and forty five 534 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: dollars dress shoes to people in his administration and some 535 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: other political figures, and he's been guessing allegedly on these 536 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: people's shoe sizes and just orders them their shoes. And 537 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: some of these people, like Marco Rubio, perhaps are afraid 538 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: not to wear them, so they're wearing shoes that don't fit. 539 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: You told me about this yesterday, and you're like, if 540 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio's wearing clown shoes and Trump gave him to 541 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: him and he has to wear them and they don't, 542 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you talking about? And you show 543 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: me the picture, and I'm like, oh, yeah, those shoes 544 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 3: don't fit. I mean, it's not like just a little bit. 545 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: When you see the photograph, it's clear that they don't fit. 546 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 3: And what I find so funny about this, So many 547 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: things are funny, but one of them is this goes 548 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 3: back to twenty sixteen and Trump's first run for president 549 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: when he called Marco Rubio little Marco. It's like proving 550 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: out again in front of us ten years later when 551 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: Trump does think that, apparently Marco Rubio's shoe size is 552 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: a lot bigger than what it actually is. But can 553 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: you imagine. I mean, this is apply this to like 554 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: your job and your corporate job that you've got. You 555 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: and your boss gives you something, and your boss the 556 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: thing that they prioritize more than anything is loyalty. And 557 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: you know how your boss is from a personality standpoint, 558 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: And so then you're pressured to wear this thing that 559 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: you would prefer not to wear so your boss doesn't 560 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: get mad at you. 561 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 562 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's one thing to build unity, but it's another 563 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: when you make your people look silly. I mean, I 564 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: get it. It's it's trying to have some loyalty and 565 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: image and all of that, But come on, man, why 566 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: are you guessing at the size? 567 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: Why don't you just. 568 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: Ask right exactly? And it's not even like it's not 569 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: like Trump has to be the one to go to 570 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio and be like, hey, what's your shoes? 571 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 6: Shoe? 572 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: Right, They've both got massive staffs that I'm sure have 573 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: all of their specs and information on everything in their lives. Entirely, 574 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: you just got to send a staffer to talk to 575 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: one of rubio staffers and be like, hey, what's the 576 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: what's the secretary of State's shoe size? It seems like 577 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: a pretty simple solution, but instead we've got the Secretary 578 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: of State walking around literally in clowny clown shoes. 579 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: He can't his shoes are so big he can't even 580 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: fill him himself. I mean, at the end of the day, though, 581 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 2: you know, politics, it's it's not about who's wearing what, 582 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: even if they are really nice one hundred and forty 583 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: five dollars dress shoes. Public service needs to be judged 584 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: on results, not your footwear. 585 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: What if you got what if like the station gave you, 586 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 3: like some sort of swag or something like that, like 587 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: a station sweatshirt or a T shirt that's happened before. 588 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 3: That was dramatic, that was very ill fitting. 589 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: What happens to it well, stays in the drawer, it 590 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: never gets worn. 591 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: But what if you're getting pressure from the company to Hey, 592 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: where's that WIBC sweatshirt that we spent such good money 593 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: on that I'd like to see you wearing around these 594 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: You know what. 595 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: You want me to wear it? Why don't you get 596 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 5: one that fits me? 597 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: Ask me my size, go with the company that has 598 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: a better cut. 599 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: Do you think that's something that the cabinet members can 600 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: say to Donald Trump without reproduction? Hey, Trump, how about 601 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: next time you do something nice for me, you rub 602 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: two brain cells together and get the right size. Dude, 603 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: I'm not wearing your shoes. 604 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 5: You're gonna make me wear a uniform? At least get 605 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 5: me one that fits. 606 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna bet challenging Trump on that it's 607 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: not gonna go over. I bet you have a better 608 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 3: relationship with your boss here than Marco Rubios between. 609 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a big difference, betwe between shoes from Trump 610 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: and an ill fitting boxy T shirt from my boss 611 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: that says WYBC on it. I mean, you're talking hundreds 612 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: of dollars difference too, That's part of it. 613 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: But I think it's the culture under which each of 614 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: you work. I think Marco Rubio works under a different 615 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: culture than what you work under here at WYBC, and 616 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: thank goodness for you. It's a little bit more casual 617 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: and a little bit more relaxed. 618 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: And that's true. Yeah, I couldn't make it out there 619 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: in the real world. 620 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: Let's talk about. 621 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: What's going on with you. Are you saying that that's 622 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: what's keeping you from a cabinet level position Trump administration? 623 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: That's the only thing, you know what? Sure, I could 624 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: be the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, 625 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: but I'm not wearing any Trump's ill fitting footwear. 626 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 5: That's right, That's what's holding me back. 627 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: That sounds legit. 628 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're listening to ninety three WYBC. 629 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 7: Mom, going it is Casey and James ninety three WYBC 630 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 7: and let's do it. 631 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: It is time for the best audio of the day. 632 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: And this is presented to you by senior citizens in Minnesota. 633 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: They want their nursing homes to allow happy hour without 634 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: liquor licenses. 635 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 6: Rinds and I love happy hour just like many of you. 636 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: Do. 637 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 6: I am sure just because we are older and live 638 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 6: in an assisted living doesn't mean that we should have 639 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 6: fewer freedoms than anyone else. Allowing our facility to coordinate 640 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 6: this happy hour affords us and our families the peace 641 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 6: of mind that we can enjoy life but not be 642 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 6: out slipping on the ice to stop and get our 643 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 6: blocks of wine. This amendment is simply putting into law 644 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 6: what many people assume is already allowed happy hour at 645 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 6: the place where we call home. My only regret is 646 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 6: that we might not get invited to one of these 647 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 6: if it gets passed. 648 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 5: There's an age threshold. 649 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 6: Now I see how. 650 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: So this is about a new Minnesota bill, and it 651 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: would allow nursing homes to host happy hours without a 652 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: liquor license. I was not aware that they needed a 653 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: liquor license to be able to do this. 654 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: Look, you don't get in the way of senior citizens 655 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: and their booze. I mean, I think I've lived long 656 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: enough to figure that one out. Your mom is in 657 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: an assisted living facility, and she is and they have 658 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: happy hours all the time, and it is a big deal. 659 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 5: And I don't know if they have a license or 660 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 5: not to do this. 661 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to assume that they do for the purposes 662 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: of this conversation. They do before you rat out your 663 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: mom's assisted living section. But it's but I mean, it's 664 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: a big deal. Happy hour is a big deal. And 665 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: being able to have a glass of wine or a 666 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: cocktail or a beer at these assisted living and nursing 667 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: homes is a really big deal. And who are you 668 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: going to be. Are you going to be the lawmaker 669 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: that says Grandma can't have her box of wine? As 670 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: she mentioned, by the way, don't think I missed that. 671 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: I love that she called it a box of wine. 672 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: Fantastic makes the story even more real. And the other 673 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 3: part that she said about it too is you don't 674 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 3: even really think about it because this is their home, 675 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: so you obviously you wouldn't think about anybody needing a 676 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: liquor license to have liquor in their home. But it 677 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 3: also is a public facility too, and so I understand 678 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: where the disconnect comes from. But it seems like this 679 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: is a pretty law to pass in Minnesota. Pretty easy 680 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: law to pass in Minnesota. I'm certainly not going to 681 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 3: be the lawmaker that sits here and says, nope, rules 682 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 3: are rules. Old lady, you're not getting your wine even 683 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: though you're living in a nursing home. 684 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 5: I'm having a good time. 685 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 2: So the sixty five plus population in the United States 686 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: approaching fifty eight million, and it's got about fifteen thousand 687 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: nursing homes in the United States with one point two 688 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: million residents. Obviously, social isolation can be a big part 689 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 2: of an aging population, and so having a happy hour 690 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: will encourage people to engage with one another and get 691 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: out of their rooms and be part of a bigger group. However, 692 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: people that are objecting to this are doing so because 693 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: nursing homes are among some of the most tightly regulated institutions, 694 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: and that is because of medication use. 695 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 5: You've got your fall risk and also liability lawsuits. 696 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: And they say that serving alcohol or giving these nursing 697 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 2: homes the permission to do this without a license, it's 698 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 2: just going to elevate some of the drug interactions and 699 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: the insurance costs and liability issues. 700 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 3: I go back, put yourself in the shoes of one 701 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 3: of these lawmakers. In Minnesota, we know the single most 702 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: reliable voting block in the country, and it's been this 703 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: way for around one hundred years. Our senior citizens. Nobody 704 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: shows up to the polls in better strength and better 705 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 3: numbers than senior citizens. It's a bad idea to get 706 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: on the wrong side of senior citizens when it comes 707 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 3: to the voting booth, because I mean, it's kind of 708 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 3: a lighthearted topic and we're having some fun with it. 709 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: But if those senior citizens decide that this is a 710 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: big deal and something they want to get behind, you 711 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 3: put your potential future elections at risk if you don't 712 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: go along with hope. 713 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 2: Well, it also brings up the question are these facilities. 714 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 5: Are they simply medical. 715 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: Institutions or are they actual environments where people are living 716 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 2: their lives. 717 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 5: They're technically both. 718 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they absolutely are, especially depending on the service that 719 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: is provided in summer memory care. 720 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 5: Some are assistant living, some are just senior living. There's 721 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 5: all different ways that they're categorized. 722 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right, they are absolutely both. And I 723 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: think that they've got it. There's got to be some 724 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 3: sort of creative solution here even if they don't pass this, 725 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 3: whether that's maybe that they you know, the alcohol is 726 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 3: put out, but the staff doesn't directly serve it. You know, 727 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 3: the residents who live there have to serve themselves, or 728 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 3: maybe they do something where even they have to purchase 729 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: the alcohol and serve it themselves. But it seems like 730 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: there's some sort of creative solution around this to where 731 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: they can get it done. 732 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people that are in favor 733 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: of saying let them drink and socialize. These can be 734 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: very lonely and depressing places, and if you just have 735 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: a happy hour at the nursing home, it just encourages 736 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: socializing and honesty. 737 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 5: However, you also have to. 738 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 2: Consider that these are establishments that are beholden to the 739 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: care of senior citizens and elderly people, and there's a 740 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: lot of consequences and liability that goes along with that. 741 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 3: I'm not getting between Nana and her Canadian club. That's 742 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 3: all I know that for an absolute fact, Nanny wants 743 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 3: her glass of red wine. 744 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 5: You better believe it. 745 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WIBC.