1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Live from val Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. White House briefing took place today earlier 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: than normal White House Briefing took place, and it was 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt on stage with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Secretary 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services, with Brook Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture, 6 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: and doctor mem Oz centators for Medicare and Medicaid, doctor 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: McCarry of the FDA. They were all there and this 8 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: was a conversation about what we feed our kids. It 9 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: was a conversation about how we look at food in 10 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: America and my gosh, how wrong we do it. I 11 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: have stated many times that my, oh huh, make America 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: healthy again is working. America is in for this. And 13 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: whether we're talking about the changing of drug prices, which 14 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: admittedly the style the methodology being. 15 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: Used I have issue with. 16 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: But what people are going to see as lower drug prices, 17 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: well then that's going to be loved. Tony Katz, Tony 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: kats today, if I didn't say hello. 19 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: Good to be here. Sometimes I forget, I swear to you, 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: I forget. 21 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: When you talk about getting food dyes out of our kids' food. 22 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Moms go, that's awesome, because they're trying fighting this uphill 23 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: battle to make their kids healthier, and they know things 24 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: aren't right and they're trying to figure it out. They're 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what they can do, and they 26 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: would like a little bit of help. 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: The problem is they've had a. 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Federal government that hasn't been so much interested in anything 29 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: that isn't already what we do. 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: And the anger that you're seeing from the political left. 31 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Is a look at, well, how dare they change these things? 32 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they got rid of all these doctors 33 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: at the CDC. They're not actually engaged in science. No no, no, no, no, 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: no no. Maybe those people who got canned, maybe those 35 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: people weren't engaged in science. Maybe The thing most infuriating 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: the political left is that Robert F. 37 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: Kennedy a junior, a. 38 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Guy I consider a leftist and would not and still 39 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: do not want as the secretary. I don't want him 40 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: in the cabinet, but even I must admit that his 41 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: philosophy here and the honesty here and the data here 42 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: driving the decisions is good for everybody. 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: For decades, Americans have grown sicker while healthcare cause have 44 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: sword the reason is clear. The hard truth is that 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: our government has been lying to us to protect a 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: corporate profit taking. I'm telling us that these food like 47 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: substances were beneficial to public health. Federal policy promoted and 48 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: subsidized highly processed foods and refined carbohydrates and turned a 49 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: blind eye to the disastrous consequences. 50 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: Now, I think there are going to be a lot 51 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: of people who agree with that wholeheartedly. I find that 52 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: comments like that frustrate because it's leftist talk. 53 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Oh, those corporate profits. 54 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: What if we said it this way? We saw that 55 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: something wasn't working, and we weren't willing to look ourselves 56 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: in the eye and say fix it, because well. 57 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: The money was too good. 58 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: The money was too good, meaning people lobbied here, people 59 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: lobbied there. 60 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: Right now, we have seen that everywhere. 61 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: If we say corporate profits, what we're saying is that 62 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: some companies shouldn't. 63 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: Be making that money. They could have profited. One hundred ways. 64 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: Do minds profit? I do mind If we as a. 65 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: Nation don't ask ourselves what's best for us, and when 66 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: we do ask it, if we come to an answer, 67 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: why shouldn't. 68 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: We go about going down that road? 69 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to stop people from having sugar or 70 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: trans fats or salt. And I think that these people 71 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: who want to ban and bar these things, like New 72 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: York want to do under then mayor Bloomberg always wrong. 73 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: I think if we ask ourselves, as a matter of 74 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: overall health, do we want. 75 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: In any way to make our lives better? 76 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: Are what we are allowing in the foods good or 77 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: bad for us? 78 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: I think that's worthy. I think that's smart. I think 79 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: that's valuable. 80 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: That's different than saying, hey, you the baker, you can't 81 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: bake with this good in your business. 82 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: I think there is a difference there. But back to 83 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: the Secretary today, the lies stop. 84 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: The new guidelines recognize that whole nutrient dense food is 85 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: the most effective path to better health and lower health 86 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: care costs. Protein and healthy fats are essential, and we're 87 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: wrongly discouraged in prior dietary guidelines. We are ending the 88 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: war on saturated fats. 89 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: That might be the most beautiful thing I have ever 90 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: heard ever. 91 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Oh goss steak is good, very 92 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: very good. 93 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: Diets rich in vegetables and fruits reduced disease risks more 94 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: effectively than many drugs. Old grains outperform refined carbohydrates. Added 95 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: sugar is, especially sugar sweetened beverages, drive metabolic disease, and 96 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: today our government declares or unadded sugar. Highly processed foods 97 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 3: loaded with additives, added sugar, and excess salt damage health 98 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: and should be avoided. As Secretary of Health and Human Services, 99 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: my message is clear, eat real food. 100 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: There is no way for me to properly explain something 101 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: you already know, and that is that message is going 102 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: to reverberate. Eat real food. That is telling every mom 103 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: in America you were right. You're not wrong to tell 104 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: your kid, no wrong to say you can't have this. 105 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: You're not wrong to buy these other things. You're right. 106 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Stop believing the labeling and start trusting yourself. That's what 107 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: he's saying. That's what the secretary is saying. Start trusting yourself. Mom, 108 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: and certainly dad. I'm not leaving dads out of this. 109 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: You're right. 110 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: When you get good ground beef and you make your 111 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: kid a burger versus going out for that burger, you're 112 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: doing the right thing. 113 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: When you say, hey, we're going. 114 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: To grill a steak, as opposed to we're going to 115 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: have this whatever because I'm. 116 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Told that it's healthy. You're right. 117 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Now, I will admit that I am somebody who has 118 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: a massive issue with the idea of ouranic It's not 119 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed, it's that I have never believed that 120 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: it actually is. Well, there's no pesticide on this, this, that, 121 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: and the other. 122 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: Sure, jan. 123 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Whatever you say, But is there any question that the 124 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: peanut butter you buy shouldn't be the peanut butter, that 125 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: it should be the peanut butter that doesn't have added sugar. 126 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: When you buy peanut butter, why would you buy the 127 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: added sugar peanut butter. Oh, well, that's what my children like. 128 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: You're in charge of your children, who asked them what 129 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: they like. They like it because it has added sugar. 130 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: But it's also going to give them diabetes. No answers, No, 131 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: absolutely not. But the point I make is that these parents, 132 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: my belief is they've always known it. 133 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: And you know what, they didn't get backup. 134 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: They were told, well, you got to have the servings 135 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: of this and the servings of that. It's not that 136 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: they didn't know that fruits and vegetables are good for you. 137 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: It's about a whole picture. What I like so much 138 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: about what's happening here and this conversation that the Secretary 139 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: is having. It's about empowering parents. You're not crazy, You're right. Now, 140 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: go act on it. Here's what we're gonna do. But 141 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: the rest is up to you. And if we do 142 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: this together, the outcomes don't just save us some money. 143 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: I know that's where a lot of people are gonna go. 144 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: They save your kids. They're smarter, they're happier, they're healthier. 145 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Take it back some more from 146 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: the Secretary. 147 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: Nothing matters more for healthcare, economic productivity, military readiness, and 148 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: fiscal stability. The Dietary Guideline shaped dozens of federal feeding programs, 149 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: including head Start, Lee standards, affect forty five million school 150 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: lunches every day, meals for one point three million active 151 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: duty service members, and food serves to nine million veterans 152 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: in VA hospitals. Today begins the work of aligning those 153 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: programs with affordable, whole nutrient dense food. Implementation requires coordination 154 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: across the government. I'm working with many of my fellow 155 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: Cabinet secretaries to deliver results. I want to thank Bobby Mukamala. 156 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. 157 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: As he goes about thanking people right there, nutrient dense food. 158 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Now there's a conversation that's going to come up if 159 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about to feed children. 160 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: We're talking about how to feed those in. 161 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: The military, and I would argue we do way too 162 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: much feeding of children, and I'm gonna get screamed at. 163 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, am I going to get screamed a 164 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: right here my issue with a school lunch. I have 165 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: no issue with school lunch, but if a school does 166 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: breakfast and dinner, We're taking responsibility away from parents, and 167 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm just not down for that. Don't worry, you don't 168 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: have to feed your kids. The government will do it. 169 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: It's a bad idea, it's a terrible idea. But someone 170 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: has to start discussing the fact that if we're going 171 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: to engage this as the Secretary is talking about, it's 172 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: going to cost more. And we have to be a 173 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: country that asks ourselves, first of all, should we be 174 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: doing all these meals? But we're gonna feed. 175 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: The military, and we're gonna feed kids. 176 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: Although I again talk about the breakfast and the dinners, 177 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: we have to empower parents and we have to put 178 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: the response. It's ability on parents to do parent things. 179 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna cost more, and what we have to be 180 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: able to show in the long term is the calculation of, yes, 181 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna pay more for this, We're gonna put more 182 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: money towards this over here, and the savings. 183 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: Is going to be beyond belief. 184 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: If we take care of it now, we save the 185 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: money later, give your kids real peanut butter and give 186 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: your kids a steak, and they will spend less money later. 187 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to show that. But this conversation, 188 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: this explains to parents that they've always been right. 189 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: And now the. 190 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Government has caught up to them something they've known in 191 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: their gut. That's a winner. That's a winner argument. Never 192 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: mind that he's right. It's a winner argument and that matters. 193 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: That makes it a subject that works. 194 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: In the midterms, Democrats changed nothing. They just wants but 195 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: more towards programs that more harmed your kids. We are 196 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: going to engage healthier for your kids. 197 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: That argument, man, that is going to get votes. It will. 198 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: It's going to get votes. This was good stuff today 199 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: from the secretary. 200 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: Keep it here. 201 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Kats today. So 202 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: Earlier this week, I played you this clip from someone 203 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: by the name of see A Weaver, and I get 204 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: that you're not familiar with her. I wasn't familiar with 205 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: her either. She is going to be the one who 206 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: is taking care of tenants' rights in New York in 207 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: the Mom Donnie administration, and she's a communist. Tony Katz, 208 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good to be 209 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: with You. Find everything I do over at Tony Katz 210 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: dot com. Be a part of it over there. 211 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, uh, she is the. 212 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: One, as you may remember, who said this about housing. 213 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: Democratics, we control the public. 214 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: Housing is really important. And that's why when Rahel is 215 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 5: talking about the communities and that she's describing that, you know, 216 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 5: deaths sell as a creative community where the people who 217 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 5: are living there are like setting the intendent and so 218 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 5: you know, people like home ownership but has a like 219 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: control and that's been perverted by like deep racism and 220 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: deep classism in our society. So like we have to 221 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: not have a racist class of society. And so that's 222 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: something we need to think about like deeply. 223 00:14:59,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: But you know. 224 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 5: It's about to me, it's about control and why rent 225 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 5: control is really important is because rent control alters the dynamic, 226 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: the power dynamics between renters and who owns the building, and. 227 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: She does owns in air quotes, and then she went 228 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: on in another clip to discuss the fact that that 229 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: home ownership. 230 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Is white supremacy. She said the. 231 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: Words don't get angry with me, She said the words here. 232 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: This was this was the clip right here. 233 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 6: The reality is is that for centuries we've really treated 234 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 6: property as an individualized good and not a collective good. 235 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 6: And we are going to and transitioning to treating it 236 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 6: as a collective good and towards a model of shared 237 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 6: equity will require that we think about it differently, and 238 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 6: it will mean that families, especially white families, but some 239 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 6: pot family to her homeowners as well, are going to 240 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 6: have a different relationship to property than the one that 241 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 6: we currently have. 242 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: The different relationship is this woman who never created anything 243 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: in her life, she's never built anything in her life, 244 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: is going to take what is yours. Communists don't believe 245 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: in personal property, just going to take what is yours. 246 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:41,239 Speaker 2: Well, it got noted that cea Weaver here. 247 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Who can be seen in the pages of the New 248 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: York Post in tears, why is. 249 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: She in tears because it was discovered. 250 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: That first see you here her mother, who is I 251 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: believe a professor in in Tennessee. 252 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: Her mom lives in a one point six million dollar house. 253 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna let that kind of marinate. 254 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: That's all right, Just gonna gonna leave that there. One 255 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: point six million dollars. This is the woman who says, 256 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a good gentrifier. 257 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 2: We have to end whiteness. 258 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: She is the typical, the stereotypical liberal white woman who 259 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: has done absolutely nothing, but she's got the right degrees, 260 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: and therefore she gets these opportunities. And the fact that 261 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm Donnie hired her tells you everything you need to 262 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: know about that COMMI low life lowlife. These people can't create, 263 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: they can only take and destroy. And once she got 264 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: questioned about it, she broke down in tears. As the 265 00:17:54,920 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: story goes, her mother has a one point six million 266 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: dollar house. But you shouldn't be allowed to own an 267 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: investment property. You shouldn't be allowed to own your condo. 268 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: It's not good for the collective. 269 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: You know who knew. 270 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: About good for the collective? Nicholas Madurero, hold on, wait, 271 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: what the people had no power in eight pigeons. Oh 272 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: it's funny. In in Cia Weaver's mom's one point six 273 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: million dollar home. I never pigeon the on the menu. No, 274 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: not even for a snack. No, no, no, the most 275 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: classic stereotypical commie. You do what we tell you. We 276 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: still get fresh fruit. 277 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: They're the enemies. They are the enemies of rational thoughts. 278 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: They're the enemies of freedom, They're the enemies of humanity. Always. 279 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: There is no such thing is a good communist, just 280 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: like there's no such thing as a democratic socialist. 281 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders is a communist. 282 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: He's been lying for years and people have bought it 283 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: because they wanted him to succeed. Alexander Costicortez is a communist. 284 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren is a communist. They all believe in mom 285 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Donnie and supported him. Therefore they don't even say, hey, 286 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: listen on this policy. 287 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: I think you're wrong. They don't. 288 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: She cries, She cries, New York. He voted for this, 289 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: so you're gonna suffer. Let's make sure nobody else votes 290 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: for this. Let's make sure this goes away. 291 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. 292 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: So the reporting of a story out of Minnesota. Just 293 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: earlier today a woman shot and killed by federal immigration 294 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: officers as she tried to. 295 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: Run over them in her vehicle. 296 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Hey, good to be here, 297 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: Good to be with you. You've got a group of 298 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: protesters shouting anti ICE slogans behind a yellow police line. 299 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Oh god, that is a mess of a photo right there. 300 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: Ice officers of Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations when riders 301 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: began blocking Ice officers, and one of these violent rioters 302 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: weaponized her vehicle, attempting to run over our law enforcement 303 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: officers and an attempt to kill them, and acted domestic terrorism. 304 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: This according to DH Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs. 305 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: Tristia McLaughlin. I might be McLoughlin, but I say McLaughlin. 306 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: An ice officer, fearing for his life, the lives of 307 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: his fellow enforcement and safety of the public, fired defensive shots, 308 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: used his training, and saved his own life and that 309 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: of his fellow officers. So, I mean, that's the story 310 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: as of right now. And there is video of this. 311 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: I'm trying to. 312 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: Grab it the best I can of there's video of 313 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: just this, but there. 314 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: Is a response. 315 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: You've got the Counsel for American Islamic Relations, who is 316 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: saying of this woman in an interview being done. 317 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: On MS now that this woman is I'm supposed to 318 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: believe some kind of hero. 319 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: Now, producier Land and I have not gone through this yet. 320 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm hearing this like you are, so finger on the 321 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: dumb button just in case. 322 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 7: What is your message to the Trump administration in this moment. 323 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: You're not above the law period. 324 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 8: You cannot commit crimes against innocent people. And that appears 325 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 8: to be what happened today. And so we're going to 326 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 8: remind them and anybody else that we've still this is 327 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 8: still a country of laws, and we're going to hold 328 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 8: them accountable to it. 329 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: Are we also going to hold the Somali nationals and 330 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: anybody else associated with fraud accountable. By the way, the 331 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: reporting is, this woman was running people over and that's 332 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: when law enforcement then protected themselves. That's the reporting. Yes, 333 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: certainly we can find that that story changes, but if 334 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: it's a nation of laws, everybody associated with the fraud 335 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: needs to go to jail, right including people who are 336 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: from Somalia or of Somali descent, because they're not special. 337 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: They're not special, right care. 338 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 8: No ICE agent can go around and shoot people. That's 339 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 8: exactly what happened here. We've had a previous incident as well. 340 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 8: This is not the first shooting that has happened in Minnesota, 341 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 8: and so we're hoping that we can get to the 342 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 8: bottom of this and learn as much as impossible, as 343 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 8: much information as possible. But we're acting asking our folks 344 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 8: across the state here to be vigilant, to wake up 345 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 8: and to realize what is happening. 346 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: These we are waking up to what is happening. 347 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Radicalize progressives believe that they can attack law enforcement officers 348 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: fulfilling the laws that are on the books, and they 349 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: should be able to do so with impunity, as if 350 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: somehow laws don't matter. 351 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: That is what's happening here. 352 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 8: Unquestionably untrained, untrained ICE agents who are coming untrained. 353 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: What do you mean untrained? 354 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: Hey, if you want to put more money to training, 355 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: I think they'd greatly appreciate it. 356 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: But untrained, Well, there's a false statement. 357 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 8: Nearly two thousand for what, for what purpose other than 358 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 8: to separate families, to disrupt the peace, on the purpose 359 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 8: of a policy of political rhetoric, President Trump is trying 360 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 8: to score political points and really terrorize our state because 361 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 8: you know he's afraid of Governor Wallas or whatever his 362 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 8: logic behind is happening. This is unacceptable behavior. 363 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why Trump is doing anything, but I'm 364 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: sure it must be bad, so therefore I'll be opposed 365 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: to it. 366 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 2: That is a great line counsel for American Islamic relations. 367 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Are people in the country illegally and should we remove them? 368 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: Nation of laws? 369 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: You said separating families, But if they're in the country illegally, 370 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: shouldn't we follow the law? 371 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: So you think we. 372 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: Should follow the law, unless, of course, a family gets separated, 373 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: in which case we should. 374 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: Pay no attention. I don't think that. I don't think 375 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: that at all. 376 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 8: We see the worst version of it today in a 377 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 8: loss of a young woman's life, and as we learn 378 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 8: more about this situation, we need people to wake up 379 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 8: that this is unacceptable and. 380 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: We need as we learn more about the situation, the 381 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: reporting tells us that she got into her car and 382 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: tried to run over law enforcement officers. 383 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Pretty sure that's a bad idea. Listen, I'm not an expert. 384 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: Hold on, wait, I'm somewhat of an expert. Well, I 385 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: know a good idea from a bad idea. I know, 386 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: you shouldn't try and run people over? Yeah, bad idea. 387 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: What did you think was going to happen? Now? Could 388 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: the reporting be wrong? Sure, the reporting could be wrong, 389 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: be wrong. 390 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 8: Absolutely, Every person to wake up and look outside their 391 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 8: window and identify and record these people's behavior because they're 392 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 8: absolutely dangerous. 393 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 2: We have record these people's behavior. 394 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: There has been nothing that has been more helpful to 395 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: show exactly what we're dealing with in American society than 396 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: the body camera. People wanted the body camera left and right, 397 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: up and down, and finally we got body cameras. 398 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: You know what, we learned a lot of bad actors 399 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: out there. When we have a bad cop, we shill 400 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: fire the cop wholeheartedly. But a lot of people. 401 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: Acting very foolish and engage in violent behavior. Of course, almost. 402 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: To you know. 403 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: On queue I get the comment of the United States 404 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: of fascism. Oh honey, if you don't think law enforcement 405 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: should be able to protect itself from violent people trying 406 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: to run them over, what do you think should happen? 407 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: Should everyday citizens be can you defend yourself? Just curious? 408 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: How is that fascism? 409 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: It's not? But we know this. We're fully aware of it. 410 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: It's just what people say when they want to stop 411 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: conversations from taking place. How dare you notice what these 412 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: people are doing? Meanwhile, this guy who leads obstensibly leads 413 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: care in some area of Minnesota is continuing his conversation 414 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: in part two of this interview through so. 415 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: Much over the recent years. 416 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 7: What is your message to the people in Minneapolis. 417 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: The people say, Oh, we. 418 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 8: Are a strong community. We have dealt with a lot more. 419 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 8: And I believe in this moment God has chosen us 420 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 8: to carry the burden of this nation's fight against President 421 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 8: Trump's authoritarism. And guess what if God sees something good 422 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 8: in us, that goodness is going to be used to 423 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 8: shine a light of positivity. And so we're gonna come together. 424 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 8: We're going to be stronger, we're gonna be resilient. Now 425 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 8: we're gonna win in this moment, and history will remind 426 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 8: the nation and for generations yet to come, that there 427 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 8: were great people in this great city of Minneapolis who 428 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 8: stood up against authoritarism. 429 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: What authoritarianism? You just said. We're a nation of laws. 430 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: What's being done are the law in force of the 431 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: laws on the books. 432 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: Again, It's just like the guy who commented in the 433 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: chat United States of fascism, it doesn't mean anything authoritarianism. 434 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: What are you talking about. The president was elected by 435 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: the people. He's following the laws that are on the books. 436 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: Can I help you? You are angry that the laws 437 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: being followed, while you then claim that the law should 438 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: be followed. 439 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: That's pretty nutty. 440 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: By the way, that man his name is Jaylanie, who's 441 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: saying the executive director of Care in Minnesota being able 442 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: to break down what it is that these people are. 443 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: Saying, expose it for what it is. 444 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: And of course this being ms now or as the 445 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: kids say, miss now right, they refuse to actually take 446 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: a look at what laws are being enforced. 447 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: The answer is look at these bad ice agents. Full 448 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: of our guests can stand by. I want to go 449 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: back onto the scene in Minneapolis where our reporter Alex 450 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: Tabbitt is standing by. What's happening here now, Alex Chris. 451 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 7: We are right at the scene where this shooting happened. 452 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: As you can see. 453 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 7: Right over there, thirty fourth Street in Portland Avenue. The 454 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 7: police have shut down this block. If you come with 455 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 7: me right here, you can see the fencing you can 456 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 7: see the state and local law enforcement now DHS Border 457 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 7: Patrol ICE. They have been taken out of the scene 458 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 7: during that process. 459 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 1: Because ICE doesn't investigate these kinds of things. That's not 460 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: what ICE does. ICE is dealing with people over here 461 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: here illegally. But if there is some type of incident 462 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: like this shooting, that would be local law enforcement that 463 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: would be on the scene. 464 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: Makes perfect sense. 465 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 7: Introducer, I want to introduce you. I want to introduce 466 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 7: you to you the head of your nonprofit, Jelani. Jelani, 467 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 7: talk to me about the moment that we're living in 468 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 7: right now. 469 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: Well, this is what we predicted. 470 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 8: We predicted that these ICE agents are untrained. They have 471 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 8: been literally coming into our streets with our and all, 472 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 8: and they've attacked our community multiple times. And unfortunately, today 473 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 8: the worst part of that situation happened. A young woman 474 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 8: and got you know, rest on her soul. Appear to 475 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 8: have lost their life because they literally shot an innocent 476 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 8: person today and murdered her. 477 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: And so. 478 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: The reporting says otherwise. And I'll wait to get more reporting, 479 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: absolutely I will. But we've seen ICE agents get shot 480 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: at that happened in Dallas. We've seen ICE agents attacked. 481 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: How dare we enforce the lawn? We should enforce the law. 482 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: How dare MSNBC? I'm sorry, MS now, miss now make 483 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: this kind of push Did any I wonder after the 484 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: interview Tod anybody pushed back, Hey, that's his statement. But 485 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: here's what we have right now. We don't know exactly 486 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: all the facts. We have to find this out. I 487 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: wonder if they did any of that or it was 488 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: you know what, Finally, somebody's dead. This is great for 489 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: our coverage. This really will help us go after Trump. 490 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: So you want people to attack ICE agents, so ICE 491 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: agents have to protect themselves. And if somebody dies, that 492 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: proves your point. That's very Hamas thinking. You know, in 493 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: the eyes of Hamas, if in Israeli dies Hamas wins, 494 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: and if a citizen of Gaza dies, Hamas wins, they 495 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: don't care. That's what this smacks of. But this is 496 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: all breaking. We're gonna have more information on that tomorrow 497 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: for sure. Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. 498 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: I have seen this story now three or four times. 499 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: Regarding car payments. Blows my mind about how people buying 500 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: cars are engaged in payments of one thousand dollars a 501 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: month or more. 502 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony kats today. Good to be with you, 503 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: by the way. 504 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: In this situation that is developing in Minnesota where ICE 505 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: agents a shot and killed a woman they claim was 506 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: driving at them trying to run them over, I've seen 507 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: the video. 508 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: We shared it on the live. 509 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: Stream, and the video absolutely shows a red suv where 510 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: is sideways in a roadway. ICE agents show up and 511 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: say get out of the car now. People are cursing 512 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: and all that jazz, and the person in the red 513 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: suv backs up, drives forward and it could be seen 514 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: as driving at an ICE agent. Shots were then fired, 515 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: and then the suv crash into a parked vehicle. Whether 516 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: that woman is dead already or something else, I don't 517 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: have the answer. So the angle doesn't give us everything. 518 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: The angle right now gives everybody. I can't play it 519 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: because I don't have the chance to edit it up. 520 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: It gives everybody a little bit of what they were 521 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: going for right care, and these leftist groups are gonna 522 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: claim one thing. People who are looking at this and 523 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: can say, who wo. She didn't listen to the police, 524 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: she didn't listen to ICE agents, she didn't get out 525 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: of the vehicle and then she drove her car directly 526 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: at an ice agent. What's going on here? We'll have 527 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: more on this. I'll dig into more tomorrows we get 528 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: more information. By the way, don't be surprised if people 529 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: go full George Floyd tonight, because that's what they want. 530 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: They want this. 531 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: But this idea that car buyers are financing on average 532 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: forty three thousand, seven hundred and fifty nine dollars. That's 533 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: up ten thousand dollars in twenty nineteen. They're getting longer 534 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: and longer term loans one one thousand dollars or more 535 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: car payments eighty four month loans are happening more than 536 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: twenty percent of new car buyers. How do you afford. 537 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: Anything by used? I'm buying used. 538 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: I had a pretty good trade that I could do 539 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: with my old Bronco, the ninety six of Bronco, and 540 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: so I bought something new used. I can afford new. 541 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: I shouldn't afford one thousand dollars a month payment. Why 542 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: can't I put that into some type of fund or stock. 543 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: Or anything else. 544 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: Wouldn't I be better off? And yes, by the way, 545 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: this is an example where Trump is wrong. I haven't 546 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: heard him on fifteen year car loans, I haven't heard that. 547 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: But the fifty year mortgage, it's insane. That's a terrible idea. 548 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: Terrible idea. But if people aren't building houses that are 549 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: affordable for the first time home buy or somebody in 550 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: their twenties or thirties, you create an issue thousand dollars 551 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: and people wonder why they have no savings. That's why 552 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: buy used pay it off quick so you're not paying 553 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: insane interest, and then take care of it. It's the 554 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: economics don't make sense for you on a thousand dollars payment. 555 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: For very few people in society, keep it here. This 556 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: is Tony Thot's good