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Speaker 1: Wow, it is October, so it's time for every october Fest.

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Speaker 1: There is right, people who are watches, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: watched Toberfest, right, or watch Tober and then and then

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Speaker 1: over there Best Buy they're having a big sale to

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Speaker 1: compete with Amazon Prime, and it's Techtober.

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Speaker 2: Everything's a tober fingers maloy. For some of us, every

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Speaker 2: month is a tober. I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 1: Tea drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz. And that right there

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Speaker 1: is America's favorite amateur drinker, fingers Maloy. And this from J. C. Newman,

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Speaker 1: by the way to J C. Newman's in a row two.

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Speaker 2: J C. Newman's in the row.

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Speaker 1: We did the Alpatone firecracker last week, but this is

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Speaker 1: their brick tober Fest. This ECUADORI and Havana Risotto rapper.

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Speaker 1: If you like those davidof Colorado Claro's. That's to me

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Speaker 1: the kind of look we're getting right here. And this

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Speaker 1: comes in at seven three quarters by forty eight, which

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Speaker 1: means it is seven and three quarters inches long.

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Speaker 2: Always makes fingers. I laugh me too. And the ring

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Speaker 2: gauge of the forty eight the diameter of.

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Speaker 1: The cigar or how thick it is around again with

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Speaker 1: the laughter, A sixty four ring gage.

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Speaker 2: Would be a full one inch around fingers it.

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Speaker 1: So, first of all, it's got a nice amount of oil.

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Speaker 2: It is not smooth. You can feel every bit of

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Speaker 2: this wrapper.

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Speaker 1: But this this wrapper is the kind of look that's

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Speaker 1: getting into the man. I wish this was the color

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Speaker 1: of my leather in my living room for my couch.

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Speaker 2: Like it's that kind of look to it. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: like I said, there's a touch of oil for me.

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Speaker 2: The hand field, the handfield is spectacular. Right amount of

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Speaker 2: weight for that length. I could go for a little

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Speaker 2: more heft, could you I could? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I you're right, it's not flying away, but just a

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Speaker 1: little more I think would do me fine.

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Speaker 2: But it does feel very very good in the hand.

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Speaker 1: It's not top heavy, bottom heavy, right, So they've got

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Speaker 1: that right. I think the brick tober Fests or the

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Speaker 1: brick Tobers now brick Toberfest has always been for brick House,

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Speaker 1: really enjoyable. There's a lot of value that's going on

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Speaker 1: in this cigar. I like brick House, right, name was

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Speaker 1: a name for that with the grandfather started the company

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Speaker 1: in the one room that they started in.

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Speaker 2: They do fourteen hundred.

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Speaker 1: Boxes of this cigar in a box of ten, and

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Speaker 1: depending on the retailer, whoever it is you go to,

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Speaker 1: you will get. If you buy a box, you'll get

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Speaker 1: a beer stein. You'll get a brick tober Fest, nice

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Speaker 1: beer stein.

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Speaker 2: It's just it is. It is absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Now. I don't know much about an Ecuador and Havana

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Speaker 1: Rossata rapper. Is that just another way of saying a

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Speaker 1: habano and we're gonna get some big spice out of this?

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Speaker 2: Not sure.

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Speaker 1: Nicaraguin and the binder and the filler, this comes out

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Speaker 1: of their Nicaragua factory. So out of s to lee.

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Speaker 1: But off the bat, I have flavor. I have a

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Speaker 1: nice bit of a very very simple spice going on

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Speaker 1: with a bit of wood on the tongue.

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Speaker 2: That's all I've got right now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a more natural sweetness, not necessarily a nutty, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily a creamy, just the spice and wood with a

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Speaker 2: To it off the top. I agree with you, except

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Speaker 2: for me, that spice is a little bit bolder than

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Speaker 2: what you're If I'm understanding you correctly, it is for me,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's punching me in the face, but

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Speaker 2: it's definitely hitting me and not in a bad way.

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Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying it. And that wood is definitely there

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Speaker 2: as well. This is this is a nice, nice so

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Speaker 2: far representation. Every year they do it and every year

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Speaker 2: I buy it. I started with the two just to

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Speaker 2: see where we would be with this. I will go

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Speaker 2: back and get a box now seven and three quarter.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have time. This is two hours. This is

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Speaker 2: two hours worth of smoke. And I love, love, love

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Speaker 2: the forty eight ring gauge. That is a real.

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Speaker 1: Nice place to be because what you get is the

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Speaker 1: ratio right, so wrapper to bind during, filler, more wrapper,

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Speaker 1: more flavor. So when you get into those smaller ring gauges,

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Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons we enjoy a Lansero so much.

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Speaker 1: You just get this better combination of flavors going on.

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Speaker 2: And that is what I love.

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Speaker 1: I love that that, the way that that feels, I

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Speaker 1: love the way that that presents.

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Speaker 2: So this is seven three quarters.

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Speaker 1: So they call this a Churchill makes sense seventh three

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Speaker 1: quarter by forty eight fingers moloin is this in your humidor.

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Speaker 2: For twelve dollars a stick stop it. So you know,

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Speaker 2: we just lit this. We're just in the first third

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Speaker 2: of the first third. But you know our track record

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Speaker 2: when it comes to reviewing brick House already. I was

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Speaker 2: excited when you pulled this out, but it tells itself

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Speaker 2: having said that at this point, it's just based on

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Speaker 2: my past experience with brick House in general and the

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Speaker 2: way we're smoking this in the experience so far. Twelve dollars.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So you want to get your notebooks out. What'd

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Speaker 1: you eat today? What'd you drink today?

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Speaker 1: We finally have fall weather in Indianapolis, Indiana. Finally out

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Speaker 1: of the eighties and now into the high seventies.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, like, are we in the sixties,

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Speaker 2: in the seventies right now? I believe it's sixty eight degrees.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful, it's we should be doing the show outside.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what the due point is. Forty two.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what, al Roker, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: that means. You know what that means? No, at forty two,

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Speaker 2: that's when the D starts pointing. So you want to

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Speaker 2: get your notebooks. What do you eat today?

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Speaker 1: What do you drink today, the weather that all affects

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Speaker 1: your palette, all expects the affects the flavor. And then

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Speaker 1: take the cigar and break it down to the third's first, third, second, third,

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Speaker 1: final third. Write down your notes. What did you feel

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Speaker 1: you go back and you try it a month from now,

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Speaker 1: six months from now, you do it again. You write

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Speaker 1: those notes, compare those notes, and that's kind of like

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Speaker 1: your through line. That's really what you got out of

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Speaker 1: the flavors of the cigar. At twelve dollars, this is

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Speaker 1: a no brainer. This is a great a great box

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Speaker 1: to buy twelve so as box a ten. You can

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Speaker 1: buy it with five friends. Everybody gets two each. Buy

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Speaker 1: it with a friend everybody you know, you each get five. Right,

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Speaker 1: I can appreciate that. Maybe because of time, because of

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Speaker 1: all the time, but it'd be nice to have, especially

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Speaker 1: in the fall weather. This and football, This the TV

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Speaker 1: outdoors is fingers more. I would do it and football

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Speaker 1: all long like this. You light this up during the

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Speaker 1: second quarter. This will get you through the rest of

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think I think you can first quarter this thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Could mid of the third quarter of the one o'clock

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Speaker 1: games to take you through the majority of the four

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Speaker 1: o'clock game, and therefore it starts getting a little chili outside.

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Speaker 2: You can come in, you finish your cigar. You didn't

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Speaker 2: waste anything. That's that's some smart thinking right there. Smart

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Speaker 2: thing twelve bucks. It's a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a no I got these from our

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Speaker 1: friend Corey at blen bark oh N Cigar in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: and I will call him and say save me a box.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned football. The garage is getting closer and

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Speaker 2: closer than new garage to being the football mecca that

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Speaker 2: it was at the previous home. Very excited. I had

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Speaker 2: five TVs in it.

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Speaker 1: It had it had chairs, It had a foot massage

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Speaker 1: or fingers while I does his garage right? And and

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Speaker 1: will it have the droppers? Say you can put water

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Speaker 1: into your bourbon properly.

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Speaker 2: It actually will have a dropper water machine. Oh yes,

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Speaker 2: all it does little drops over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: This is the brick house p tober Fest for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: And this is.

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Speaker 1: You know, a little more spice than I was expecting.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not upset. I'm not upset. This is this

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Speaker 1: some Oh wait, that's a tease. You will not believe

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Speaker 1: what Fingers is going to try and feed me.

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Speaker 2: That's not steak. I bought steak, Fingers, Tony Fingers, Tony Fingers,

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Speaker 2: Tony see drinks, well, come Tony kats on that right

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Speaker 2: there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers maloy.

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Speaker 1: I uh, I noticed that you, uh, you may make

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Speaker 2: Hey, Tony, I brought steak. Yes. I have felt really,

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Speaker 2: really bad because lately you have been providing me with

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Speaker 2: wonderful food. We had the Tomahawk steak a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: there was that the chicken from Jack Daniels, and you

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Speaker 2: had kind of that Shepherd's pie, right, And I thought

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Speaker 2: to myself, I need to contribute something. Is that right? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And I said, you know what, I should bring steak

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Speaker 2: to the show. And I agree, you should bring steak

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Speaker 2: to this show. So I did. No, you didn't. How

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Speaker 2: dare you? Where is that from that listen, we can

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Speaker 2: ask me no question. Name the butcher that procured this FI.

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Speaker 1: That is not Defiance Beef right there, Defiance beef dot Com.

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Speaker 1: He's from a code eat drink smoke to get one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars off your order.

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Speaker 2: Indiana is where it comes from.

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Speaker 1: Ship directly to your door, to your cut, to your

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Speaker 1: specification to find SPIF dot Com.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't actually that. I was just that's our sponsor.

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Speaker 2: We love them, we do love them. I did not

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Speaker 2: see the butcher, but I do know he wears a

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Speaker 2: big cowboy hat. Oh is that right? Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Where's this from Arby's? You brought me steak from Arby's.

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Speaker 2: It is sweeping the nation to and.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love Arby's, Arby's, Guilty Pleasure food,

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Speaker 2: They have meats. But what makes you think this is

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Speaker 2: actually steak? Because why would food and Wine dot Com

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Speaker 2: lie to me? And first of all, I normally am

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Speaker 2: fine with Arby's, but they've blocked me on X for

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Speaker 2: some reason. I have no idea why that's still going on.

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Speaker 2: It's still going on. Apparently they have a beef with me.

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Speaker 1: Ruth Buzzy used to follow him restors soul Gone too

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Speaker 1: soon and you Arby's don't savagery?

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Speaker 2: Yes, so what happened? Why? Why is this here? Why

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Speaker 2: is this in my studio? Apparently this is a new

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Speaker 2: release for limited time only over at RB's. I believe

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Speaker 2: it is a nationwide release. Uh. It is steak nuggets

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Speaker 2: made with tender hand cut steak pieces seasoned with garlic

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Speaker 2: and pepper and then seared and smoked for a bold,

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Speaker 2: smoky flavor. According to Food and Wine dot com.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just if you could, really quick just point out

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Speaker 1: there on the map where the nugget is on the cow.

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Speaker 2: Right next to the hot dog. Well done. Yeah. Having

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Speaker 2: said that, I I'm only assuming this is high quality

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Speaker 2: steak because, like you pointed out, it is a nugget form,

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Speaker 2: and it also comes with dipping sauce.

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Speaker 1: Oh shut up, open it up.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want the freaking dips.

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Speaker 2: I don't have. I'm on the god. It looks good,

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Speaker 2: What were you expecting the steak to come in from Arby's.

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Speaker 2: Would you call it a nugget? I Cuba meat? Okay,

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Speaker 2: we don't have napkins, We don't even we have nothing.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna dip it into sauce. You do have a napkin,

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Speaker 2: some sort of linen napkins. How many nuggets is this?

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Speaker 2: You could either get it in order of five or

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Speaker 2: nine tony And how much was this five piece of

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Speaker 2: buck of nug yes, and then some All right? Am

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Speaker 2: the nose. It smells like smoked meat.

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Speaker 1: You can get Angus sirloin for fifteen dollars a pounds.

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Speaker 2: We just paid a bucket nug like, can you get

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Speaker 2: I'm going in, all right. He's going in, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: clearly enjoying himself. Can't get in this brisket. See, so

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Speaker 2: what's that steak? I'm just telling you what the fine

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Speaker 1: You're gonna need the sauce, you're gonna need the So

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Speaker 1: it's not terrible at all. It's actually fine. And somebody

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Speaker 2: So it says in the piece here over at food

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Speaker 2: Is that what they say? And then seared and smoked

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Speaker 2: I'm going. He's doing it. He did in one bite,

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Speaker 1: It's brisket. It's not steak. It's not steak. Can't call

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Speaker 1: I can see people buying it all day, five eighty

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Speaker 2: We paid over a buck of nug That's the part

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Speaker 2: It's flash baked. It's flash baked, flash baked at thirteen

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Speaker 1: ARB's first, you need to be following Fingers molloy on

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Speaker 2: What the hell is wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: They blocked me? What is wrong with you? Don't think

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Speaker 1: we're afraid of your social media account? Right, we're not. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: you're not Wendy's okay. Secondly, that that's not steak. That's brisket,

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Speaker 1: and that's fine. Brisket nugs would sell too, but call

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Speaker 2: Is it done? No, I'm good. Thanks. Fingers is offering

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with it, man, there is really nothing

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Speaker 2: I was just about to say, if you're on some

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Speaker 1: On that diet for like, like, let's say four and

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Speaker 2: You'll lose eight pounds and then you'll gain twelve back. Right,

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Speaker 2: that's how it works. By the way, have you bought

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Speaker 2: Fingers with the Wife's Fitness book Want to Get Thin

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Speaker 1: Um, it's the price that blows my mind. The price

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Speaker 2: But that's what chicken nuggets would cost. Right, six chicken

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Speaker 2: nuggets are probably six bucks what I'm looking it up

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Speaker 2: right now? You're not you're just tapping on. You're a phony.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that guy's a great, big phony. Eat Drink Smoke

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Speaker 1: It is your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kash.

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Speaker 1: That's fingers from when I find it all at Eat

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Speaker 2: Really is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It is a beautiful, beautiful rapper getting into the saddle

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Speaker 1: leather kind of look. It's got nice oil, but you

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Speaker 1: can feel every single bit of it and it's just great.

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Speaker 1: I wish the cigar had a little more heft. That's

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Speaker 1: the only complaint I've got. But it's smoking beautifully, and

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Speaker 1: don't want to say creamy. That's really the wrong word

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Speaker 2: This is kind of it. Yeah, I will know. I

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Speaker 2: That it's there. But predominantly the two things that I'm

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Speaker 1: Stick, burning a touch on evenly for me. I'll see

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Speaker 2: Like that, which you should be watching outside. It's beautiful

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Speaker 2: it's beautiful. It's time Fingers melloy for News of the Week, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Before I get into News of the week. It's it's

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Speaker 2: on the News of the Week, Tony, and arrest has

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Speaker 2: much of this crap.

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Speaker 1: It is as we're talking to you, or on one

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Speaker 1: News isn't talking about it because they don't think they

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Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: And the craziest part is this is all about these

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Speaker 2: That's a good story. Have you seen the price of gold?

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Speaker 1: Which, holy crap, you you want to freak out about something?

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Speaker 2: Can I totally bogart? Go ahead? Gold costs four thousand

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Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense from a layman's perspective, It doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense.

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Speaker 2: All thing's crazy. We're going to bring back a term

433
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Speaker 2: from the seventies, stagflation, don't You're talking about possibly unemployment rising,

434
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Speaker 2: the numbers rising, and inflation continuing to rise. It's something

435
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Speaker 2: that's not easy to fix with this. The Japanese. Yeah,

436
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Speaker 2: the Japanese were eating our lunch. Right.

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Speaker 1: That was the big conversation in the mid eighties, right,

438
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Speaker 1: think of the rise of Sony and all these other things,

439
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Speaker 1: and all the manufacturing they were doing, all the vhs

440
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Speaker 1: and Beta max players. They were making your discmand ask

441
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Speaker 1: your gen X grandparents if you will. By the way,

442
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Speaker 1: there are gen X grandparents out there. That's how old

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Speaker 1: you are, Fingers molloy. The Japanese then invested crazy in infrastructure,

444
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Speaker 1: crazy in infrastructure. The problem with infrastructure is that doesn't

445
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Speaker 1: necessarily bring a return. And so what happened is there

446
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Speaker 1: was all this spending, but there were there wasn't this

447
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Speaker 1: this this movement, and because of that, they took this

448
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Speaker 1: economic boom and it turned into like a decade plus

449
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Speaker 1: of stagflation where nothing was moving.

450
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Speaker 2: It was brutal.

451
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Speaker 1: They really have just started engaging in a recovery to

452
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Speaker 1: the extended recovery maybe six years ago. Things moving in

453
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Speaker 1: the right direction. So you're bringing up you're bringing up

454
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Speaker 1: one of the worst options, but not necessarily the worst option.

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Speaker 1: I would make the assumption that economist would say, oh,

456
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Speaker 1: it could get even worse than that. Stagflation is not fun.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be. It's not good for business, and

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Speaker 1: it's not good for consumers.

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Speaker 2: But you bring up an interesting point about the lack

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Speaker 2: of attention to this government shutdown by major media outlets. Well,

461
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Speaker 2: I'm right about that, right yeah. And the other thing too,

462
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Speaker 2: is it makes you wonder. You know, before all this happened,

463
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Speaker 2: there was almost a feeling of terror in Washington, d C.

464
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Speaker 2: If the government shutdowns, like oh my god. Yeah. And

465
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Speaker 2: now if we're talking about a government shutdown now to

466
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Speaker 2: try to get a continuing resolution passed to get us

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Speaker 2: to November for another possible government shutdown, people I think

468
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Speaker 2: are just going to completely tune out until you see

469
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Speaker 2: checks not starting to hit the mailboxes or the direct

470
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Speaker 2: deposits not going into the counts.

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Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, I know there are

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Speaker 1: plenty of all different kinds of people that listen to eat,

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Speaker 1: drink smoke and are part of eat drink, smoke nation,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want them impacted or hurt at all.

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Speaker 1: But there's this conversation about back pay. Well, if we

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Speaker 1: miss a paycheck and we get the government back up,

477
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Speaker 1: we'll just pay them what we owe from the week before.

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Speaker 2: I have a real issue with that, and I'm not

479
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Speaker 2: trying to be heartless.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking, well, then, what actually is the damage of

481
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Speaker 1: a shutdown?

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Speaker 2: Let's see if we get into it, fingers Maloy.

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Speaker 1: There are bad headlines, and then there are awful headlines,

484
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Speaker 1: and then there are horrific headlines.

485
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Speaker 2: And then there's this. I'm listening to Eat Drink Smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker,

487
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Speaker 1: fingers Maloy. I find everything we do at Eat drinksmokeshow

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Speaker 1: dot com. That's not the headline. That one's great. It

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Speaker 1: very very, very bad, world class.

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Speaker 2: Here is the headline.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, your toilet doom scrolling might be giving

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Speaker 1: you hemorrhoids.

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Speaker 2: Film at eleven. Oh, you know you don't want that film.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know we were on OnlyFans, no one, No

495
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Speaker 1: one told me, and here I am wearing clothing. First things, First,

496
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Speaker 1: we can all agree doom scrolling is destructive.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Go read a book. It's terrible. It is terrible,

498
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Speaker 2: and I avoid it for several minutes a day. It's

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Speaker 2: so this.

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Speaker 1: Whole idea of addictive, right, is it addictive because it's

501
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Speaker 1: mindless or is it addictive because it's like a crackhead

502
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Speaker 1: trying to get the hit. You know what, the next

503
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Speaker 1: one is gonna be the one that works, the next

504
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Speaker 1: video will be the one that's great.

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Speaker 2: It's both. But then also it's this weird thing where

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Speaker 2: people are on their phones, and for most people, you

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Speaker 2: would think getting on your phone is some sort of

508
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Speaker 2: an escape from whatever you're You're trying to avoid something

509
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Speaker 2: or nothing's on TV. I've got to pass the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm escaping from what's going on in my life right now.

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Speaker 2: And then they're going through their phone and just making

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Speaker 2: everything worse.

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Speaker 1: Right, So basically you think doom doom scrolling is like

514
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Speaker 1: the Pinia Kalada.

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Speaker 2: Song, Oh see, I would have gone with something by train.

516
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Speaker 1: Well, you said escape, that's the song that's escape, the

517
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Speaker 1: Pina Colada song.

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Speaker 2: If you lack pin your Coladas, go ahead singing it.

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Speaker 2: I don't get cod and what in the porn rain

520
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: or something? If you caught in the rain or getting

521
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: caught in the rain. I'm not into health food. I

522
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 2: am into champagne. Okay, no, I'm sorry, I'm not a

523
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Peni Colada song. Officionado like like you wow, who drinks

524
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: penia coladas in the rain? Who doesn't?

525
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Speaker 1: So, according to the story, people are doom scrolling while

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Speaker 1: in the loo doing number two and all that sitting

527
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Speaker 1: and maybe a bit of pushing.

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Speaker 2: Not the buttons on the phone, not the buttons on

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Speaker 2: the phone.

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Speaker 1: No haptics here, No, no, This could lead to a

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Speaker 1: serious issue, and so the researchers conducted the first multivariate

532
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Speaker 1: analysis that isolates.

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Speaker 2: Smartphone use as a significant risk factor.

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Speaker 1: A significant majority fingers Maloy, sixty six percent of all

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Speaker 1: respondents ad minutes using their smartphones while going uh to

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Speaker 1: the restroom. People were lingering on their phones, with thirty

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Speaker 1: seven point three percent of people reporting spending over five

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Speaker 1: minutes on the toila some fifteen minutes unreal.

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Speaker 2: First of all, bringing your phone into the toilet the loo,

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Speaker 2: was that what you mean? Low? Yeah, it's gross standard

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Speaker 2: operating fair, thank you very much. Oh good lord, it's

542
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Speaker 2: that's terrible. No, that should never happen. And then on

543
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Speaker 2: top of it, if you're using the bathroom as your

544
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Speaker 2: own little oasis as an escape from bump outside up

545
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Speaker 2: b b by, if you let the look lettice, why

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Speaker 2: why are you deciding the time to scroll on your

547
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Speaker 2: phone for fifteen to twenty minutes. You're you're doing that

548
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Speaker 2: on the least comfortable chair in your house. I gotta

549
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: make you bet, Tom Ruth. This is all about being

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Speaker 2: away from everybody, because you can't just lock yourself in

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Speaker 2: a closet and do this because people would start worrying

552
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Speaker 2: about you. But if you lock yourself in the bathroom

553
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Speaker 2: and may as well when you lock the door, you

554
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Speaker 2: turn the fan on, that's the do not disturb sign.

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: Without having the do not disturb sign, then you can

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Speaker 2: sit in your bathroom apparently for a half hour scrolling

557
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Speaker 2: the phone. Yes, you're asking for hemorrhoids. You're saying please,

558
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Speaker 2: uh dear lord, I sure would love some hemorrhoids right now.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? You you go in there, get

560
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Speaker 2: your business done, and then get back outside of the

561
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Speaker 2: bathroom to your phone and then sit in a comfortable chair.

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Speaker 2: What if your business takes a little bit of time,

563
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Speaker 2: then you should see a doctor. What why this takes

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Speaker 2: a little bit of time? What you in here? Yes?

565
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Speaker 2: Are you thirty seconds in and out? Oh minute and

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Speaker 2: a half two minutes tops? Okay, so that's a little

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Speaker 2: bit of time. You can't be away from your phone

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Speaker 2: for two weeks. Well, you totally can. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: no to that. I was just wondering how quickly you

570
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Speaker 2: you stuff drop? We have we talked about my diet recently,

571
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: every day, doesn't We've done this show it doesn't take long?

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Speaker 2: Oh really?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Hey, who wants to share? Good?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh you started it?

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: No, So let me get this straight. Let's let's paint

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Speaker 2: a picture for eat, Drink, smoke Nation. Would so Tony

580
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Speaker 2: talk about this? It's gonna be more like a Jackson Pollock.

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00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: Tony finds himself in the middle afternoon after having a

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Speaker 2: hearty breakfast, feeling like he's gonna have a moment, and

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Speaker 2: he says to himself self, I need to use the rastroom.

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Speaker 2: Oh make sure I have my phone with me. It

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Speaker 2: could be twenty minutes. And then you go in there

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Speaker 2: and twenty minutes. It's no, no, no, absolutely not, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: But I could.

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Speaker 1: I I could see people bringing their phone in. I've

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Speaker 1: done that numerous times. Here.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to see my phone? No? I don't

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Speaker 2: want to see I want By the way, do you

592
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Speaker 2: do you clean your phone?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You're better. Your phone is gross every place you put

595
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Speaker 2: it down. Your phone is gross and they sell these things.

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Speaker 2: I have one. It's called phone soap. Oh, it's it's

597
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Speaker 2: a UV light. You put it in there, closed door.

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Speaker 2: UV light kills all the kills, all the fancy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I use comet.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 2: I just sit my phone in line steal wool. Uh,

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Speaker 2: that's that is a. It's it's very cool like that's

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Speaker 2: a that's a good way to But you should clean

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Speaker 2: your phone. I have to ask you this, and I'm

605
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Speaker 2: gonna regret you bet you are you know you and

606
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Speaker 2: I communicate because of the show and uh we're we're friends,

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Speaker 2: uh several times a week. I have never talked to

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Speaker 2: you while I'm in the bathroom, Okay, never once. Never

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Speaker 2: text me in the bathroom. Yes, that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: If I ever texted you in the bathroom, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have to say yes. Good lord, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 2: say yeah. I don't know. I just want to say,

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Speaker 2: for the record, both my hands were free. The thing

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Speaker 2: that grosses me out. You and I have gone to

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Speaker 2: conferences on several occasions doing what we do for the radio.

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Speaker 2: I've walked in on people standing at the urinal scrolling

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Speaker 2: on the phone and I'll give you names. After we're

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Speaker 2: down here and I'm walking in, thinking you're not that important, man,

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Speaker 2: What do you what are you doing? Absolutely not, because

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Speaker 2: that thing is completely going to drop in right And

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Speaker 2: then what do you do? And then you got to

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Speaker 2: do some reaching and then and then you're like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm going home. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I just walked right out, no matter where I was.

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Speaker 1: If my phone dropped into a toilet, I'd be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm done.

627
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: And then someone follows you was thinking, weirdest urinal cake

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. My gosh, what did

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Speaker 2: he have for lunch? I mean, I just don't I

630
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Speaker 2: just don't understand. At that point, you have to ask

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Speaker 2: yourself if you're addicted, If you're just addicted to the marts, yes,

632
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: if you're if you can't even go, I mean, okay, okay,

633
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Speaker 2: I I I'll go on this journey for for a second.

634
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: But you're on. You're having some issues. You you had

635
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Speaker 2: the biscuits and gravy, and you're you're you're bound up

636
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Speaker 2: a little bit. You're okay, you bring it. You're on

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Speaker 2: for five minutes. You should be at the urinal for

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds. You can't put the phone in the pocket

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Speaker 2: for thirty seconds. Seriously, you need some professionals. You are

640
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: absolutely correct, scrolling while you're you're you're standing is is

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Speaker 2: is death? That's yeah. By the this is one of

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Speaker 2: the most hard hitting topics we've ever tackled on each

643
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: can't wait for Marconi right here? Oh my gosh.

644
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: You know what you want to know why people listen

645
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: on weekends the Kim Commando is because that's what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. That's what's happening. Oh gosh, By the way,

647
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Speaker 1: I got I have never met her. She does the

648
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Speaker 1: computer stuff the industry. She has created with the radio

649
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: show in the.

650
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: Web unbelievable, joggernaut, crazy, crazy, surreal. Do you think Commando's

651
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: her real last name?

652
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: No?

653
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: I also wonder how much of that's done on a

654
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: smartphone on the toilet. Yeah, probably a lot.

655
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: Trying ourselves a little bit of whiskey, not bourbon whiskey.

656
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: It's eat, drink smoke.

657
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker,

658
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Fingers molloy. All bourbons are whiskeys, but not all whiskeys

659
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: are bourbons. That's how it goes. A bourbon has to

660
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: be fifty percent corn and follow a whole series of rules.

661
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: You can find those.

662
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Rules in our book Let's Go Bourbon, By the way.

663
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: It's available at Amazon dot com wherever fine books are sold.

664
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: This is a whiskey, oddly enough, called a North American

665
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: whiskey from Fraser and Thompson. That is the brand Fraser

666
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: and Thompson. This is a North American whiskey. This is

667
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: made out of Bardstown, Kentucky, and it's owned by Michael Boublay,

668
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: the singer ye songwriter.

669
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 2: I love all of his sooner, love all of his music.

670
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: That song that he does right the music in the background.

671
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: I like Booblay. Boobley's a guy you can hang with.

672
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: I dude, I can say I disliked him. I just can't.

673
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: I can't name any Boublz songs.

674
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: It didn't sound like you liked him much. He didn't

675
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: sound like like you were like thankful he was making

676
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: you some fine whiskey for you.

677
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: To try to fine. I like that one song he does,

678
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Hot Cross Buns, give me the bottle right there?

679
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: A standard ut happen to like the label with with

680
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: with the Copper and the black here. This comes in

681
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: an eighty four proof. No applause, because it's not one

682
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: hundred proof. Fingers, MOI would only apply for things that

683
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: are a hundred proof again, not bourbon.

684
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: This is whiskey.

685
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: We usually see this as American whiskey. That's usually the

686
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: way this this comes up. Uh, first things first, fingers

687
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: moy Uh that is a very pale gold as a

688
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: pale gold color.

689
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: Uh that this this bourbon has and a touch of

690
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: this costity here there's the bottle. Take there, Oh, thank you?

691
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: A touch of his costody there.

692
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: Uh, that's all I can really gather from it, not

693
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: the traditional bourbon.

694
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

695
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: Look right, Anything darker amber, deep rich coppers, things like that.

696
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that it's going to be a problem.

697
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: It's just it's a different process altogether, and you're gonna

698
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: get a different result. Then you would get what you

699
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: would normally consider a bourbon. Fingers is into the nose

700
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: already on this What say you, fingers, Billy. So there's

701
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: a hint of spice, and I'm getting oak, but I

702
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not getting any like caramel or vanilla. Well

703
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: there there's so a couple of we don't have an

704
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: age statement here, right, because because again, not a bourbon

705
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: I also don't have a mash Bill. I don't know

706
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: what this comes you know how, No, stop it, that's

707
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: not it.

708
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm done. There is there is a little bit

709
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: of speeding sweetness. There is a little bit of ethanol.

710
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: Uh to me that that hits right off the bat

711
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: on this I I definitely definitely get that.

712
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's necessarily in inviting. But it's

713
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: not bad. It's it's it's a it's a.

714
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: It's a fine. No, it is a little underdeveloped, maybe

715
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: is the way I would say it.

716
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: But I do get.

717
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: I do get a sweetness that I think you could

718
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: put his caramel. I think you could put it there.

719
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: That would be my take on the nose. But smelling,

720
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: smelling fingers molloy, are you ready for this, Tony? I've

721
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: been ready for this all week.

722
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: Fraser and Thompson whiskey is what we've got here.

723
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: This comes from Michael Boublay. He's Canadian. Eh So, fingers

724
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Boy is doing what's known as the Kentucky chew, moving

725
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: the juice around the palette, try and get a feel

726
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: for it. I'm a believer in the two SIPs method.

727
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: The first sip to set the taste buds. Second sip

728
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: to really get an idea of where the flavors are.

729
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: Fingers may uh what say you? So that oak is there,

730
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: it's first of all, very little sting on the tongue,

731
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: no real warmth in the in the chest. It's it's

732
00:40:52,360 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: very nice sip and whiskey. That oak is there. I've

733
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: seen people online talk about honey. I'm getting that a

734
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: little bit on the palette, and and the and there

735
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: too on on the finish there that spice hits you.

736
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: And then there's I'd say a little bit maybe caramel.

737
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm not getting hit with a lot of things, but

738
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: what I'm getting hit with is pleasant. All right. I'm

739
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: going in. That was that you're not getting hit with anything.

740
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: I said a little bit honey, honey, oak, a little

741
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: bit of caramel, and that's spice. So there's four things,

742
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: but nothing is like really punching in the face. It's

743
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: a nice little blend of all that and it's pleasant.

744
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm going in. This is Fraser and Thompson, this is

745
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: uh Michael boubla uh and his crew going in. He's

746
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: going in, ladies and gentlemen. He's doing what we like

747
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: to call the sagon of swish, the Memphis munch, taking

748
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: a North American nip that is.

749
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: Much more flavorful on the on the palate than the nose.

750
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: Your other honey is a really good call. Butterscotch interesting

751
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: is where I'm at, really like almost with an intensity there.

752
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: This is so yeah, yeah, butterscotches it. This is way

753
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: sweeter than I ever would have possibly imagined. Really, Oh

754
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: my gosh, full tongue is almost like a syrupy coating.

755
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: You're looking at me like a nuts Maybe that wonderful

756
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: steak we had in the first hour is messing with

757
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: my palate. It's it's it's not that's I think we're

758
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: all in. We're in the same place. I the butterscotch

759
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: is interesting.

760
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: Butterscotch and a little bit citrusy. M I'm not gonna

761
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: like the finish has has a touch of heat. I

762
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: see where you're getting a little bit of the oak.

763
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm overpowered by the sweet, like yeah, like, I'm

764
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: gonna put a cube to this syrupy, syrupy sweet, candied

765
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: orange butters The finish is more candied orange.

766
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: The palate is butterscotch. There's no spice. If you see,

767
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: I was getting a little bit of spice. I'm not

768
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: being over well, I'm not saying you're being overwhelmed, but

769
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: everything to me flows very nicely. And but it's not.

770
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is almost like a dessert whiskey.

771
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: It's very sweet. I'm getting it's almost brain freeze sweet. Really, yeah,

772
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: that's crazed. I can't. How do you I don't go

773
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: back in. Maybe it's the three honey buns I've had today,

774
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: by the way, you know that's true, right, you know

775
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: he's had three honey buns today. That's definitely happened. Really

776
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: it there's a sweetness to it. What I say, Oh

777
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: my goodness, this is like I'm I'm I'm just.

778
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: It's a Werther's original. It's a butterscotch. I don't even

779
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: know Worthers is butterscotch. It's a butterscotch. I mean, that's

780
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: just you're not old enough to know that. I've read books,

781
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: I've heard tail the question fingersm boy, this is from

782
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: Fraser and Thompson. This is a North American whiskey. Is

783
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: this in your liquor cabinet? For thirty dollars a bottle?

784
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: I'd buy this.

785
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: I gotta try it on a cube because right now,

786
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: for just a profile, I'm gonna know this is. This

787
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: is overwhelmingly sweet. Wow, right this is I think like

788
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: as a basis for a hot Toddie. This could work

789
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: what this could work tremendously.

790
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: Well with not as much honey in it. But yeah,

791
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: too much, too much. I'm hoping a cube will bring

792
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: that down wow a little bit. But we will, we

793
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: will get into that. We will give that a try.

794
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: Uh find everything we do at Eatrinks Smoke show dot com.

795
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: Don't forget Instagram, Eat Rink Smoke podcasts start following us

796
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: over there.

797
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: You should do that immediately, if not sooner.

798
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: If you haven't figured it out by now, neither Fingers

799
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Maloy nor I are from the South.

800
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: It hasn't happened.

801
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: What has happened is that Fingers mulloy just spilled his

802
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: bourbon all over the table.

803
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: God, that was funny. It's eat Drink Smoke.

804
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker,

805
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: Fingers Maloy. That is the first time in all the

806
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: years we've done this that has ever happened. Leave it, dude,

807
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: it's not anywhere near the near the equipment.

808
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to ruin your table. Oh please, do.

809
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: You think I bought a new table. When I got

810
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: this table, I knew who I was dealing. You were

811
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: grabbing the steak or us. He was going for the

812
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: RBS steak.

813
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 2: That we were trying.

814
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: They're steak nuggets. And also they're not steak, it's brisket.

815
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, Tony, I brought you steak and

816
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh.

817
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: I love steak. Wait why is that a bag from

818
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: RB's And he's like ha.

819
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: I was like, no, that's not steak. If you want steak,

820
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: you go to Defiancebeef dot com. Defiance Beef right there

821
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Northern Indiana. They are the ones that you can order

822
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: a quarter cow, half cow, the whole cow butcher to

823
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: your specifications. Everything is aged twenty one days, so you

824
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: get the tenderness, you get the flavor. It just is

825
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: so wonderfully perfectly balanced, whether it's the strip, whether it's

826
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: the rabbi, the filets, the brisket, all of it, the

827
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: ground beef, and you decide what you want. I went

828
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: through the cut sheet with the butcher. I have so

829
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: many good steaks coming my way.

830
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: I cannot wait.

831
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: Cuts I didn't even know existed, stew me all sorts

832
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: of stuff.

833
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: Cannot wait to make that all happen. That's right, stew meat.

834
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: It was part of the cow. Nuggets I could make them.

835
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I could make them. There's no actual nugget part of

836
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: the cow. I hate to break it to you, but

837
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: if it came from Defiance Beef, I would eat it.

838
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: Use promo code eat drink smoke to get one hundred

839
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars off your order.

840
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Defiancepeef dot com.

841
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: Everything cut to your specifications, then frozen a Crayovacs frozen

842
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: and sent to you. You want to go to defiancepeef

843
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: dot com. Promo code, eat drink, smoke and one hundred

844
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars off your order. Defiance beef dot Com.

845
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: So good it'll make you spill your whiskey.

846
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: So good it'll make you spill your whiskey.

847
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: That's a that's a dang good tagline, right there, Defiance

848
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: beef dot Com.

849
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: But we're not from the South, fingers woint No, right there.

850
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: Some people call you the Southern Dandies. Those people are special.

851
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: These are twelve beverages according to Southern living that define

852
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: the South. Now, I have not seen the list Jet fingers, mologne.

853
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet that the mint julip is on there. Okay,

854
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet the whiskey sours on there. Sweet tea

855
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: A sweet tea is definitively on there. Those would that's

856
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: number one.

857
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: Sweet tea number one on Do you like sweet tea? No,

858
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't like tea at all. Tea is disgusting. Really,

859
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: he is awful. Wow.

860
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: Now everybody who drinks it are kidding themselves. And I

861
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: know that I am now insulting the British Empire and

862
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: the subcontinents.

863
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that and all of our Southern listeners.

864
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: Why do you hate the South, Tony?

865
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: I love the South and the people grits La perfection Tea.

866
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: Not so you're telling me you don't like an Arnold Palmer,

867
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: the old lemonade and the tea. No, no, I'll have lemonade,

868
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: thank you. I don't need to ruin my lemonade. Wow, right,

869
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: why not just urinate in my lemonade? Oh my goodness,

870
00:48:54,760 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 2: that's way till I tell Arnold Palmer you said that exactly.

871
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: Also on the now they've got bourbon on the list. No, no, no, no,

872
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: it's you. Don't do you think of bourbon as Southern

873
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: bourbon as the American drink to America Kentucky, that's South?

874
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: I just I don't. I don't. I guess I don't

875
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: visualize it like that. No, no, nah, I don't you

876
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: combine uh the sweet tea with the bourbon and now

877
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: you're cooking a little bourbon with the sweet tea. No, god, no,

878
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: why would I do that to my bourbon? I don't

879
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: understand you. Okay, let me. I think other people can

880
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: have it. That's fine, they should have it other people.

881
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 2: You have seen me casino gaming, I sure have. Every

882
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: ten seconds I need to take a sip of something.

883
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: Jack and coke. Yes, I usually do the jack and

884
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: coke because if I order myself a free bourbon that

885
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: comes while I uh win dozens of dollars playing video poker,

886
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: I will go through that bourbon in four seconds, and

887
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: you know, four or five bourbons later, you're carrying me

888
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: out of the joint. So what does that have to

889
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: do with anything? So you sometimes you're thinking yourself, I

890
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: this is this is a night, this is this is

891
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: a full night of drinking. Uh, you need to have

892
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 2: a mixer. You can't. You got it's got. It's gotta

893
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: slow things down a little bit. So no what I

894
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: normally mix sweet tea and bourbon together. Probably not, but

895
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: since we're just having a conversation here, if you had

896
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: some sweet tea and some bourbon, I'd drink it for

897
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: E Drink Smoke Nation. I think you should. I think

898
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: you should make that video and share it with them, okay,

899
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: and I should be nowhere in the room. Coca Cola

900
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: Southern drink.

901
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, when you get down to Georgia, you order

902
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: a coke, what kind, and then you tell them what

903
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: you want, like everything's a Cokes.

904
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: Coke is so in in parts of the South, absolutely,

905
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: and you you need to know that ahead of time

906
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: because that you need to be warned because if you

907
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: walk into a diner and they ask you what kind

908
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: of coke, you're thinking, Oh, cherry coke, died coke. No,

909
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: do you want Doc dr Pepper coke? Do you want

910
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: Doctor Pepper's also on the list. That is absolutely. That

911
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: is like a huge Texas thing and I didn't know

912
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: that until I you know, we have some friends from

913
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: Texas and they're like pride, Doctor Pepper out of my

914
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: dead hand. Try to you're not gonna be able to. Yeah,

915
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: it's another one of those drinks, which it's not for

916
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: me fingers only. Senior Ah good Man never had a

917
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: doctor Pepper in his entire life, eighty seven years old.

918
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: And now I feel like it's a sense of pride

919
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: because I've tried. Why don't you have doc want doctor Pepper? No,

920
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: never had one. It's like, I don't understand. You know,

921
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: we're not gonna get some prize at the end. You

922
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: go up to the pearly gates. Oh, you get in

923
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: the express line. You've never had a doctor Pepper. You

924
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: don't know that. You know what. I don't know that.

925
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: You don't know that at all.

926
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: And Arnold Palmer is on the list of Southern drinks.

927
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense. The mint, Julip said, So talk

928
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: about Kentucky, the Kentucky Derby.

929
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: There was no question.

930
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Uh Sazarak. Now they're not talking about Sazarak rye. They're

931
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: talking about the cocktail.

932
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: That is made with rye. This is uh New Orleans.

933
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: You've got the bitterers, You've got the absinthe, uh, the Sazaa,

934
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: the sazaraq.

935
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: We've discussed this before, like that's the like, that's the drink,

936
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: that's the that's not the first mixed drink, right, who

937
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: would know, but it is.

938
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those drinks that is like American legend,

939
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: American institution, and and it's a rye based drink. A

940
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: sazarak is is good.

941
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: Now. I'm not an old fashioned guy. I'm not a

942
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: Manhattan guy.

943
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: These these are not my not my things, they never

944
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: have been. But it's I have a I have a

945
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: respect for the thing. Like I get why people like

946
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: old fast. I know it's not for me, but I

947
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: absolutely get it. And there's there really is a difference

948
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: because I'll sip, I'll try things when someone does it right,

949
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: when it's a good old fashioned right. Yeah, Like you're

950
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: like you could so recognize how above the other stuff

951
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: you've had it is when you hit that moment, you're like, yep.

952
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: That's for me. I wish I were more into making

953
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: cocktails at home than I am. Take too much time. Yeah,

954
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: it's like I'll just pour the bourbon and drink it

955
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: right out of the glass. I don't want to put

956
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: a lot of the glass. Yeah, we're gonna. I don't

957
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: want a monkey with it, too much out of it.

958
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: But but then once I go to a place, you know,

959
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: we've been to places before where they have this specialty

960
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: Old Fashioned or Manhattan, It's like, oh, that sounds good.

961
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: And then I think to myself afterwards, why don't I

962
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: have more of these? It's because it takes it takes work. Yeah,

963
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: it takes a whole seven minutes. Yes, and who needs that?

964
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: Who's the time time? That's why I don't put anything

965
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: in my lemonade? And there it is also tea is gross.

966
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: Eat Drink Smoke.

967
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: It is your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza Tony Katz fingers below.

968
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: I find everything, all of it at Eat Drink Smoke

969
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: show dot com. We are smoking the brick Toberfest. This

970
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: is the brick Toberfest from jac Newman The Brick House

971
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.

972
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: They do it every year.

973
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Is a special release that ECUADORI and Havana Rosato rapper

974
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: nic Roguin binder and the filler seven and three quarter

975
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: inch by a forty eight and yeah, twelve bucks all day,

976
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: every day, no.

977
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: Question, ridiculous value from this cigar. I've had to touch

978
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: it up a couple of times, but other than that

979
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: it's been pretty maintenance free. That spice is kind of

980
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: subdued for me as I've moved into the second third

981
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: of the smoke, but that wood node is still there.

982
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,479
Speaker 2: That kind of cash you note is there as well.

983
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: It's geez for twelve dollars. I almost want to say

984
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: there's something a touch herbal going on in a very

985
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: very good way. No, I like it. I like it

986
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: a lot.

987
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: Twelve dollars. Unquestionable that this should be in the humid or.

988
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: It's a special release once a year. So if you

989
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: can find the box, box of ten, get the box,

990
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: share it with friends, do whatever it is you're gonna

991
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: do with it. Really a fan here of what Jason

992
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: Newman has done. Drew fine work, fine work, indeed, And

993
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: we are drinking this right Here is a Frasier and

994
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: Thompson Michael Boublay one of the proprietors here. This is

995
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: a North American whiskey, so not a bourbon, non American whiskey.

996
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: He's Canadian. They're so they're calling it North American whiskey.

997
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: This to me was outrageously sweet. Eighty four proof butterscotch

998
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: note really a light honey kind of color, but a

999
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: butterswat almost overly sweet. A little bit of orange zest,

1000
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: almost candied orange on the finish is what I got.

1001
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: You did not get that, fingers. I was not overwhelmed

1002
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: by the sweetness that you're talking about. I got some honey,

1003
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 2: that oak is there, maybe some caramel and a little

1004
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: bit of spice, and they all to me kind of

1005
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: melded together nicely, not one note overwhelming another or anything

1006
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: like that. I thoroughly enjoy it, and especially at that

1007
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: price point twenty nine to ninety nine. It's in my

1008
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: liquor cabinet. But I had to try it on a cube.

1009
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: I had to see where it was going to be,

1010
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: how this was going to work, because it was it

1011
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: was just too sweet for me, way too sweet for me.

1012
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: As a neat drink.

1013
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't have it even at twenty ninety nine.

1014
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be my liquor cabinet because of the sweetness.

1015
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: So I added a cube so ice water. It brings

1016
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: down proof, some flavors become more pronounced, some more muter.

1017
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: It kind of opens up the bourbon or the whiskey

1018
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: fingers just added a little bit of water to his

1019
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm going in.

1020
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh, he's going in, ladies and gentlemen. He is making

1021
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: a second attempt. It cut the so now there's now

1022
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: there's some spice. It absolutely cut the sweetness. Now it's

1023
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: just sweet.

1024
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: But still that finish is oh my god, Yeah, that

1025
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: finish is still sweet. Uh and there's a little bit

1026
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: of heat center chest. So oh, he's going back in.

1027
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: At least you're giving it more of it, You're giving

1028
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: it a chance.

1029
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a little bit of oak now on the finish.

1030
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I can appreciate that that is not my flavor profile,

1031
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: but I could really appreciate that that is someone's flavor profile.

1032
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: And I would be curious. We need to take this

1033
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: to bartender Brian and see how he makes old fashions

1034
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: out of this. To me that that it's so there's

1035
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: this big butterscotch and this big candied orange finish. I'd

1036
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: be curious to what a what an old fashion would

1037
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: look like with this the Fraser and Thompson, it's much

1038
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: better on a cube.

1039
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: It's got more complexity.

1040
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: The sweetness is brought down, but still it's more sweet

1041
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: than I like, I would want more oak. You had

1042
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of water to yours fingers more way,

1043
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: what say you? He's going in He's doing the sip

1044
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: right there and enchilada marzipan. Nice to me, it brought

1045
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: out a little bit more of the oak, and the

1046
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: rest of the notes are kind of the same. All

1047
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: I can say to you, Tony, as if you're drinking this,

1048
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: you think yourself, it's a beautiful day. I'm feeling good,

1049
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: and if it's around the holidays, you'd have a holly,

1050
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: jolly Christmas.

1051
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: He went full bouoblay, full full blue blay. So listen

1052
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: to me. This is a value question, right, This is

1053
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: an enjoyable drink, yep, under thirty dollars a bottle. To me,

1054
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: those are the reasons why they would be in my

1055
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: liquor cabin This would be my liquor cabin. Now, would

1056
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: this be an every day drinker for me? No, it

1057
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't be, but I'd be glad that it's in the

1058
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: liquor cabinet. I would be happy to serve it to

1059
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: my guests and drink it myself. I think that this

1060
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: may be something for people if they aren't a whiskey drinker.

1061
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: It would still be palatable because you're you know, you're

1062
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: saying that it may hit them as sweet as it's

1063
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: hitting you. So maybe that would be a little bit

1064
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: more acceptable to a table that may not necessarily say, Okay,

1065
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: I want some whiskey. I think for under thirty dollars

1066
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: a bottle, it's it's in my liquor cabin.

1067
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: I can appreciate that you'd go that direction, but it's

1068
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: time fingers mooy for news.

1069
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: Of the week. Well, Tony, we talked about it in

1070
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: the first hour that the government is shut down, and

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00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: because it is shut down, there wasn't a job's report

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00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: correct that was released. But monster dot com Monster is

1073
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: still a thing, a because I saw the press release.

1074
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: They came out with their third quarter twenty twenty five

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01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: job market report, and they went through in their minds

1076
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: the the ten hottest jobs that are out there right now.

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: If you're a job seeker and featuring smoke radio host,

1078
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: are we having a meeting afterwards? Oh no, no, I

1079
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: just assume it's a hot job. Oh no, it's not.

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01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: But there are actually a few surprising things on the list.

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01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: Number ten is a customer service representative particularly Yeah, for

1082
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: they're looking for people with bilingual bilingual skills, and you

1083
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to work from home. But we've heard

1084
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: so much about AI taking over some of these jobs, specifically,

1085
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: you know so much of this It can be done

1086
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: now via chat online, which I did last week when

1087
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: I was canceling my homeowner's insurance the old house did

1088
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: that over over chat. You wondered how much of an

1089
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: impact a I would have on industries like customer service,

1090
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: But yet it's on the list here. A lot of this,

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01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: by the way, that whole chat thing sucks that I

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01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: haven't you think, Oh god, it's terrible. Why I want

1093
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: to talk to people? Why because I want to talk

1094
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: to him? No, you don't.

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: No.

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01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: The problem with this world today, Tony, and I'm going

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01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: to quote the great Homer Simpson. Communication too much communication.

1098
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: That's the problem that we have today. People not talking enough.

1099
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: That's the future and that's where we should be headed.

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01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: Nobody talking, being angry, sitting alone, listening to eat, rink, smoke,

1101
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: hoping that it makes them feel better. Well, that part

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01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: it will will make you feel. Some of these things

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01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: are not surprising. A delivery driver number seven, Yeah, I

1104
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: can see that. Although we did a story last week

1105
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: where they're they're starting to bring the delivery bots in. Yeah,

1106
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: but it's not gonna last. They're all gonna end up

1107
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: in a river somewhere. No, they're gonna take over the planet.

1108
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 2: Just they're going they're gonna be foot rests uh sales rep. Yeah,

1109
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: well you always need that. I was gonna sell the

1110
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: good Yeah, so much of this, uh, and we're gonna

1111
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: get to the healthcare stuff is you know, whether it's

1112
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 2: product delivery, uh, product sales or uh. You know. One

1113
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: thing that seems to be a common theme and has

1114
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: been for some time is there is a great shortage

1115
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: of truck drivers. Yeah.

1116
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: And so there's this big thought process about the truck

1117
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: driving world being automated and and uh driverless and all that.

1118
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: That's not gonna be there for a good, good long time.

1119
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: So how are you gonna get things from point A

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01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: to point B without the truck driver? It's it's just

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01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: a necessity that scares the living big rig going down

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01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: the road with no driver. That that sounds terrible.

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01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: You're asking me to trust Elon too much. I I

1124
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: nice guy.

1125
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure look forward to hanging out with him. But

1126
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: trust trust the driverless big great.

1127
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't trust the driverless car.

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: No.

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01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: Number two physical therapist. As we have an aging population,

1130
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 2: more people have to go to serfect sense and number

1131
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: one going again with the aging population. Registered nurse.

1132
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, our shortage of nurses is real and uh and

1133
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: problematic and as a matter of just national security, I'm

1134
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: not kidding like that. That needs to be addressed. That

1135
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: needs to be handled and there that we need to

1136
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: think incentive based.

1137
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: I think on that, and I don't want to registered

1138
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: nurse robot. No, not after the first time they say

1139
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: what is old is new again? I read that in

1140
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: a Hallmark card? Did you good for you? I thought

1141
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: you would read that in boys Life, Either that or

1142
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: a bumper sticker.

1143
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: D Drink Smell camm Tony Katz that right there as

1144
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: America's favorite amateur drinker fingers. Oh, don't forget to follow

1145
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: us on Instagram, Eat Drink Smoke, podcast, on Facebook, Eat

1146
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: Drink Smoke, and on the Twitter X go Eat Drink Smoke.

1147
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: You should get that done immediately. Gen Z is a

1148
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: unique generation. On one hand, they seem to have rejected

1149
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: the insanity of millennials that were hyper political all the time,

1150
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know what, can we just live

1151
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: our lives? And they're rather health conscious people. On the downside,

1152
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: they don't seem to do much dating. They don't seem

1153
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: to do much togetherness things, if you know what I mean,

1154
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: like about togetherness things.

1155
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I mean.

1156
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: That's a serious issue. It's a serious problem in terms

1157
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: of relationships. But going back to something, it's interesting they

1158
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: seem to have an appreciation or desire for things not

1159
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: to be handed to them, like there's a reason that

1160
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 1: things of some things of yesteryear, we're cooler and better

1161
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: and so it's a list here. We do love a

1162
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: list at EA drink smoke from your Tango Your Tango

1163
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: dot com. Seven once forgotten nineties relics making a comeback

1164
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: with gen Z. And you were just talking about your

1165
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: youngest wanting a camera, an actual, true camera, And it's

1166
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: crazy because that happened with us like two months ago.

1167
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: My youngest wanted an actual camera, digital camera, but what

1168
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: not the phone wanted an actual camera.

1169
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the debate, her internal debate was between a digital camera,

1170
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: which I would argue to her unsuccessfully, was you already

1171
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: have one on your phone? Right? And that might as

1172
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: well have been Charlie Brown's teacher going wa wanh wah

1173
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: wah wah wah. Or did you have to explain to

1174
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: her what Charlie Brown was?

1175
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: No?

1176
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: I did not. I have Charlie Brown Christmas on the

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01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: loop at the house. She was going back and forth

1178
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: between the digital camera and a polaroid, and at that

1179
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: point I thought I was just being punked, Like why

1180
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: would you want a polaroid? They're very popular right now

1181
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: with kids. It's unreal film Tony by film.

1182
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: Try and get them to understand what it took to

1183
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: develop film. The dark room, the red light, the smell

1184
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: of the chemicals.

1185
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: Wait, you you developed your own film? Sure? No, I

1186
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: mean not always in high school? Did you really film class? Absolutely?

1187
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: You never did that. I mean maybe once in film class.

1188
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, when I worked for the high school newspaper,

1189
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: what was on the lunch room beat? Were you on

1190
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: the one room beat? Yes, Cinnamon Rolls twenty percent off,

1191
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: Sloppy Joe's or silent Killers. Stop the presses my fingers

1192
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: will day line second off.

1193
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: The word on the street is that Josie behind the

1194
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: lunch counter is trying to kill the seven year olds.

1195
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 2: It's like you were there. It's like you were there

1196
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: but went to the photo mat or the pharmacy to

1197
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: have your pictures developed. You went to the hut. It

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01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: was a small hut with one person in it and

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: had two drive through sides, and.

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01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: You drop off your film and then, like I don't know,

1201
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: somewhere between six and one hundred and thirty three days later,

1202
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: you got your film back with the photos and usually

1203
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 1: they were in triplicate, and none of them were.

1204
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: Actually what you wanted, and everybody had a red eye

1205
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: probably too, but you were excited. That's the one thing

1206
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: that kids are missing out, well, one of many things,

1207
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: the anticipation of going to pick up those photos instead

1208
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: of just clicking it and immediately looking at it on

1209
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: your phone because you lose it.

1210
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: And everybody who goes to a concert and its recording

1211
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 1: the whole concert, you just watch it on TV.

1212
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: What are you doing? I don't experience the damn show.

1213
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: I used to do that, and there are times I

1214
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: will still videos tape a clip of the concert. But

1215
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: then I started to realize, over you know, a decade

1216
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: of having a smartphone in my pocket, how many times

1217
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: do you really revisit those videos? Zero? Absolutely, zero is

1218
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 2: the answer. Yeah, so, but I was amazed that you

1219
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: know you and I. Before we started the segment, we're

1220
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: talking about how both of our kids wanted digital cameras.

1221
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: One of the other things on this list is a

1222
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: flip phone. Now there's a really interesting talie in here

1223
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: that social media usage is starting to decline. We talked

1224
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: about doom scrolling earlier, social media and fingers moy if

1225
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: you did not know as a pastime, monitors social media.

1226
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: Outrage, social media outrage, and that's all it is.

1227
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: It is a cesspool. It is ridiculous. It is It

1228
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: can only make you sad, It could only make you sick.

1229
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: And kids are like, yeah, I don't need this in

1230
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: my life. Give me my group on Snapchat, give me

1231
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: some Instagram where I see some pictures.

1232
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: And I'm done.

1233
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't need the rest. I am making the move

1234
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: to not look at my smartphone on weekends.

1235
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: I'm out. I'm done.

1236
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: I need it for the work that I do in radio,

1237
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: but I don't need to have a weekend where I'm

1238
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: tempted to click on Twitter and see what's what. So

1239
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: I am getting a flip phone. I had already made

1240
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: this decision. I didn't see this list, and I'm gonna

1241
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 1: utilize that. On weekends.

1242
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 2: You want to call me, you can call me.

1243
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: I can still get a text message, but no, or

1244
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a different smartphone that has no.

1245
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 2: Apps on it whatsoever. You know, it would be interesting.

1246
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy. Why don't you just not

1247
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 1: look at the app? But the temptations are I'm just

1248
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: removing the temptation.

1249
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: It would be interesting if they could somehow develop and

1250
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: maybe it's out there. And I'm gonna sound ridiculous proposing

1251
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 2: this to be able to tie a flip phone into

1252
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: your smartphone to where it's the same number, the same

1253
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 2: telephone number, but you can leave the smartphone behind, have

1254
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 2: your flip phone, and the call, you know, would go

1255
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: immediately to your flip phone instead of having to do

1256
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 2: some call forwarding or all that other stuff that you

1257
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: you know back in the day. Because that would be

1258
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: a great idea. Like you say, you have two of

1259
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: the phones on one number, so people aren't oh, I

1260
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: got to call on the other number on the weekend

1261
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: and all that stuff.

1262
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: I think people are gonna listen to me and be

1263
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: like Tony, that's crazy. Just don't look at the dang app.

1264
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: Just don't look at it.

1265
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't even want it there.

1266
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: I want to have this very proactive separation in these

1267
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: parts of my life because I.

1268
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 2: Want more of my downtime to be family focused or

1269
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: other focused. But I'm in. I just don't want it there.

1270
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: But you're right, I'm just showing Tony my phone right now,

1271
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: and you look. You just think about the number of apps,

1272
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that you acquire. What is that He's

1273
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 2: on page thirteen? Yeah, thirteen pages of apps? Absolutely, you

1274
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 2: don't know when you're gonna need the the tech this

1275
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: roadhouse app or then yeah two huh there's half of one. Yeah,

1276
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: but you've you've made folders out of stuff.

1277
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1278
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,480
Speaker 2: I do have some folders, but no, mine's all. Everything's

1279
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, everything's out there. Who needs organization? Nuts

1280
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: for suckers. But that's the problem, right is it's not

1281
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 2: just social media. It's the other stuff that you can

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Speaker 2: I got to reach and grab my phone and look

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Speaker 2: at it. For something. What are the other things on

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Speaker 2: the list? I don't understand? And that's a landline for

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Speaker 2: for what you want? The cord It all twisted and

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Speaker 2: nodded up. There was a time in my life when

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Speaker 2: I was a teenager where you know, we're talking the

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Speaker 2: I didn't want a cordless phone because mother molloy uh

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Speaker 2: things that would break her heart.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Well, one day she had the radio up a little

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Speaker 2: that's the end of that, and we've switched over to

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Speaker 2: a landline. You know, I often think I had the

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Speaker 2: I would be very curious to know jen xers who

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Speaker 2: know that their mother or dad probably would be that's

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