1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show, and it 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: was going on. I'm Nigel Jason Hammer right over there 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: with a very special in studio guests. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: He is the Attorney General for the Great State of Indiana. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Todd Roketa joins us, mister Attorney general, how the heck are. 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: You legal stuff? 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: There? 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: We go, clip it? 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Clip it, Alison to me because a little inside baseball here. 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: When we moved buildings from the mus Building downtown to 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: the Urban One building here like a week before we left, 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: they deleted all of our archives and they didn't tell 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: us they were going to delete everything. 14 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: We had a very special, unique, customized legal stuff open 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: with the Attorney General's voice in it. Yes, and we 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: lost it. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: And I had heard from that mister Attorney general that's true. 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: We wouldn't like to you and your office were like, 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: why did you delete us? Did we piss you off? 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Did something happen? Like I wish I had a better 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: story for you, But they just deleted it from our archives. 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: That's all that it is. 23 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: It's why every once in a while I'll have somebody 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 4: come up to me on the street or something and 25 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: they'll just point at me and it'll be like an 26 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 4: awkward pause from me. I'm like, oh, what's going to 27 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 4: happen here? 28 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: And they'll go legal. We'll fix it. 29 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Those are our people, those are our people. So thank 30 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: you for doing that. We'll get that back in the 31 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: mix here. I want to get your opinion on something 32 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: that took place last week at the Supreme Court. Yeah, 33 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: they had the oral arguments of men, biological men playing 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: against women and sports. And this was actually pretty big 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: crowd outside normally the Republican conservative crowd. We're not the 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: protest people they showed up. 37 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: Here because we're working right during the ever right. 38 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: But there was a great crowd of those supporting women 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: in sports outside of the Supreme Court. If you wouldn't 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: mind just reset what the state of Indiana says when 41 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: it comes to that, and your opinion on what you 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: heard and what you saw that day. 43 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 44 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: Thanks, Well, we have a Indian has a nice good, 45 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: a good law that we were able to defend in court. 46 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: It was technically dismissed when we were sued by the ACLU, 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: but I calculated as a win because it was a 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: tightly written, narrowly tailored law that took care of business. 49 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: Said you know what, if you are biologically a male, 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 4: you're not going to play on girls and women's sports period, 51 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: you know. 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: And it's it's a. 53 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: Shame really that we have to have a statute on that. 54 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: What that shouldn't be a hot take? 55 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know. So we actually won our case. 56 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 4: And the sad thing about our case when the ACLU 57 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: sued us, they propped up a ten year old. Okay, 58 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 4: so using somebody when you're years old, Yeah, and you're 59 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: doing a sex change surgery and doing all this stuff 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: and then playing. 61 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's you know, these kids need love, they 62 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: need therapy. 63 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 64 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: The last thing they need is to have these radical 65 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: surgeries that really support other adults crazy ideologies, and that's 66 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: what's really wrong with Anyway, we got our case taken 67 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: care of, so we did not get a ride to 68 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. So we took our expertise with our 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: case and we helped Idaho and West Virginia with front 70 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: of the court briefs and all that. So anyway, I 71 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: was on hand for the Supreme Court our oral arguments 72 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: there and my prediction, you know, I'd say is that 73 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: this is going to be another nine zero case that that. 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: You think Brown Jackson will come around. 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's the thing. 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: This is the same one that didn't know what a 77 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: woman was, right, So maybe it's eight one, right, maybe 78 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: it's eight one. 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Are you supposed to prove discrimination when you can't describe 80 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: or define what the person allegedly being discriminated? Right? 81 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: Right? 82 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? 83 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: So you know, I'd say the judges earned their money 84 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: that day in a way with the questions that they asked. 85 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: But they're also pretty simple, common sense questions at the 86 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: same time. So I think West Virginia and Idaho are 87 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: gonna have a good day. And why that's important is 88 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: that bolsters validates Indiana's law and every other states. So 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: the case that I had supporting Indiana's law was just 90 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: that one case as to that one plane of and 91 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: just the r one state. So this is a destined 92 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: to be the Lawbland. I think it's going to be 93 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: a good result when it comes. 94 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: Is interesting when you get the conservative Republican voter out 95 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: to protest something like we had the property tax rally 96 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 2: here that was something the conservative voter was passionate about 97 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: and at the Supreme Court. Normally, when you see protest 98 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: outside it's pretty one sided the left. They've kind of 99 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: got the market cornered on professional protesters. But man, I 100 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: thought it was really cool. You had like Riley Gains 101 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: out there, former basketball coach Bruce Pearl out there, a 102 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: number of different people from different walks of life saying, look, 103 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: I don't care what you're saying. 104 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: This isn't right. 105 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: It's not right, and it's obvious. And by the way, 106 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: Riley's a great friend of Indiana. She's come a great 107 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: friend of our show. Yeah, she's been great. She is wonderful, 108 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 4: and I hope she and others like her. And I 109 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: say others like her because in the press conference that 110 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: I was a part of with some other's any other 111 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 4: attorneys general, we had some other young women that really 112 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: were you know, don't tell Riley, we're just as good 113 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: and just as clear minded, even younger still going through 114 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 4: their team sports. And so it really gave me hope 115 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: for our future. You know, we get you mentioned conservatives 116 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: a few times now, and it's easy for us to 117 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 4: kind of any normal person really forget conservatives to look 118 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: at the world and start getting kind of depressed, right, 119 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: But then I saw these young people, and I think 120 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: the pendulum is swinging back in the sense that the liberals, 121 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: the socialists have taken such oddward but liberties with our 122 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: young people in school and other places, that these young 123 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 4: people they're not dumb and they're they're reacting the opposite way. 124 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: So I think you're going to get a huge crop 125 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: of conservative young people here in the future that are 126 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: going to help write the ship. 127 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: And it also shows social media as not real life, 128 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: like some of the loudest, most bombastic opinions of social 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: media are some of these influencer lunatics. But that's not 130 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: who who makes this country run, you know what I'm saying. 131 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: And we saw that in the latest election, the presidential election, 132 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump says, this thing that we're talking about 133 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: is an eighty twenty issue. I don't even think it's that. 134 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: It's like a ninety ten or ninety five five. 135 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: It's allowed ten percent on social media and Twitter, but 136 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: it's ten percent, you know. 137 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: And so the left started picking up on this in 138 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: that case, and I forget which safe was West virginiaor Idaho, 139 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 4: but one of the plaintups in that case tried to 140 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: get the case dismissed. It's like a couple of weeks 141 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: before the Supreme Court oral arguments or something like that. 142 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: So they tried to backtrack. 143 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: And they knew, I think they and the reason they 144 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: did that they knew that they really risk a bad 145 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 4: ruling for them for the left coming out of the 146 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: Supreme Court case. So they tried to get rid of 147 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: the case all of a sudden, which is really disingenuous, 148 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: and someone should look into some actions against the attorneys 149 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: who tried to do that. 150 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: The Attorney General Todd Raketa joining us here on the 151 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: Hammer in Nigel's show. I don't know if it was 152 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: last week, maybe the week before, but your office announced 153 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: that you were kind of looking into what Lily was 154 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: doing with some insulin prices. 155 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, so look Lily, We'll start with the Lily Foundation. 156 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 4: Lily Foundation does so much for the state of Indiana. 157 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: That's not lost on me, if I understand it right. 158 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: They the Lily Foundation itself has forty percent of the 159 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: outstanding stock of Lily, which Lily the company, which is 160 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: doing great, So none of that's lost on me. 161 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: Is a really a hard. 162 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: Thing for me to do to sue the hometown company, 163 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: which is you know, which is Eli Lily. But the 164 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: fact of the matter is, for decades now they had profited, 165 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: you know, in the neighborhood of one thousand percent off insulin. 166 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: They have seventy eighty percent of the market share of insulin, 167 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: you know, the shots you use to control your diabetes. 168 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: And that's what really is the. 169 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: Kind of the backbone of what made Lily so big 170 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: and strong was this insulin product that they've been manufacturing 171 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: for I think are near one hundred years and so, yes, 172 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: it's true that they have recently led the market in 173 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: deucing the insulin prices, like down to thirty five dollars, 174 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: But my question was, okay, what about the last several 175 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: decades and the deceptive nature and the market share abusive 176 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: actions that they take, and they have eighty percent of 177 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 4: the market and they kept their prices at one thousand 178 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: percent of profit and the chemical formula is pretty darn 179 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: old one hundred years old. 180 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: There's something up there. 181 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: So two years ago I sued the rest of the 182 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: industry basically and kept Lily out of it, out of 183 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: which is my discretion to do, and try to resolve 184 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: it with them. Well, at the end of the day, 185 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 4: they didn't want to resolve it. They didn't want to 186 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 4: resolve it. I said, Look, they thought they were going 187 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: to win all their cases. I said, okay, fine, the 188 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: people of Indiana, through their attorney general. 189 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: Won't sue you guys. 190 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: But if you do lose the case with the cases 191 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: with the other states, or if you do end up 192 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: in a settlement with the other states, just plug Indiana 193 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: into the multi state formula so that we're not left 194 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: out right. 195 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: They wouldn't do that. 196 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: They wouldn't do that, They wouldn't look back but for 197 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: two years, even though they've been doing this for decades 198 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: and decades, so the discussions fell apart and they end 199 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: up getting sued. I promised if we didn't settle this 200 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: thing with Lily, if they didn't come to the table 201 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 4: by December thirty one, twenty twenty five, that I'd file offsuit. 202 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: And I did. 203 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: What about the what's their argument like? And I'm just 204 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: thinking off the top of my head, like free market? 205 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: There's we're a company, we can charge whatever we want 206 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: for a product. 207 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: That well, there's there certainly is a free market aspect, 208 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: but there's also concepts of fair trade. And when you 209 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: have eighty percent of the market share and you cram 210 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: down a price and there's evidence of that, you know, 211 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: and you do it for so long, you know, maybe 212 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 4: I'm wrong at the end of the day, but we 213 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: had it. We certainly had enough evidence of wrongdoing to 214 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 4: file a lawsuit. And now we'll get into the discovery process. 215 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: It'll be years and we'll figure it out or it'll settle. 216 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: Is there a timetable on this because I'm just going 217 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: to go on a hunch here. I'm no legal mastermind, 218 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: but I feel like literally can probably afford some good 219 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: representation that wants to drag this out forever. 220 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was you know, I gave them a 221 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt for two years and they dragged 222 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: it out. So yeah, this is going to be a 223 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: long slog. These things are all along baseball games, you know, 224 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 4: and we're at the top of the first Can. 225 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: I ask a question that's not pivoting to Minnesota? Are 226 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: there laws on the books in Indiana to prevent what 227 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: happened in Minnesota in that church where that mobs stormed, 228 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: the anti ice mob stormed the church. 229 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: And yeah, you saw that. 230 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was I sickened by that, and I just 231 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I wonder are there laws on the books here? 232 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: The first one to ask me about that. 233 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: So the specific laws, you know, I'm not I don't 234 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: want to say this on the area you know those 235 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: laws are. 236 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: But just every state has a trespassing law. 237 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: And that's what that was, right, So you have to 238 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: write a free speech, of course, but you have but 239 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: you have a write a free speech in public. You 240 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: can't go into Nigel's living room and exercise you're right 241 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 4: a free speech. And those churches are private property for 242 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: the congregation, right, so you can have the Church of 243 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: Nigel in your living room. 244 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: If those guys came. 245 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: In just sick you, you could call the cops on 246 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: him and they be and they be trespassing. So I'm 247 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: sure there's laws. I don't know if you need a 248 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: special law. It's just your basic trespassing law. 249 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: Hey, let's take a little time out here. Can you 250 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: come back for one more segment? Uh, Todd Rakeita is 251 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: here going off the rails at this time on the 252 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: Hammer In Nigel Show. 253 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: Don't associate me with that earlier and by that I 254 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: mean him. 255 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: So Rob's on vacation. 256 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: This week and we said, all right, what can we 257 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: do with his time spot that's really going to piss 258 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: him off? 259 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: The Attorney General. 260 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: Tom Rakeeda's here. We're coming right back. It's the Hammer 261 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: and Nigel show for the Attorney General. Todd Raketa is 262 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: with us. Uh the man behind Indiana Unclaimed. Now, I 263 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: still haven't found any money for myself, but uh, I 264 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: know Big Knives here is found a little bit hundreds 265 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: and hundred of dollars over the years. 266 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: Good for sure. Glad it's working out. We had a 267 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: great year last year. 268 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: We broke our own record thanks to you guys and 269 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: Tony in the Morning too. I mean you guys are 270 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: w ibs. He was a huge help and getting the 271 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 4: word out. We really appreciate that. 272 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: Guy Rolford felt like a thousand dollars or something in there. 273 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, where is this money? Who? Where does the money 274 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: come from? And unclaimed it? 275 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: So it's really weird. It's it's it's strange. 276 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: You wouldn't think this would be collected, but we have 277 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: a billion dollars to give away and it comes from 278 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: accounts that you may have forgotten about, believe it or not. 279 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: And that's how guy found his I guess he had 280 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: a lawn mowing business. Yeah, kept collecting interest so ended 281 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: up twenty five hundred bucks I guess he bought half 282 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: a gun or something, and uh or My favorite one, 283 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: guys is the spouse who opens up a bank account 284 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: right Alison forgets to tell the other spouse it's there. 285 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, and then that's first spouse dies, passes 286 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 4: on and no one knows. 287 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: I ho if you bring up. 288 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: Over here. 289 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: And ends up at my ends up at my shop. 290 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 4: And here's the problem. If it stays with me for 291 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: twenty five years, it goes to the state, becomes the 292 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: state's property. I don't want that. The legislators don't want that. 293 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: We're trying to get it back to people. We end 294 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: up giving back to the state about. 295 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: Two million I think a year. 296 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: So the scheme of things, that's not a lot, but 297 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: I'd rather get that out the Doority you guys. And 298 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: last year, like I said, you guys helped us break 299 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 4: a record eighty nine million. 300 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: That's awesome. He's got to type your name in. It's 301 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: that easy. 302 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 303 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: You can type in other people's name too, and see 304 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: if they've got any money. I heard Jeff Saturday saying, well, 305 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say any names, but a certain 306 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback's got some money. 307 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: Floating around here. 308 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 309 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: And we go do we do make you go through 310 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: some checks. 311 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 4: Some people think us to be, you know, because we 312 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 4: can't everyone have everyone calling in for Peyton Manning's money. 313 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: Right right, I'm sorry, a certain Hall of Fame quarterbacks money. 314 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: The Attorney General Todd Raked, thank you so much for 315 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: taking the time to join us in studio. 316 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: We appreciate that. 317 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Ha. 318 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 3: New Year, guys, you got it.